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It's a daily Talk Show Episode 414.

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Welcome, guys. And if you're watching this, you might just see this creeping a hoodie, that Craig

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is not Trevor long.

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We've got we've got Trevor long here in Sydney. Thank you for joining us, Dr. Boys.

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We've also got Mr. 97, who on yesterday's show, he was getting his hair bleached. But you never saw the finished product because it takes like an hour and a half. Yeah,

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there's a lot of cooking time involved. It's like a, it's like a slow, slow cooker recipe.

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So let's do a little reveal

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for the grabs. All right, in three, two

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was spin and reveal.

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How would you describe it right? What are you saying?

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Wow, I would describe that as well. It's it's a feels baby risk, but it's very definitely very, very blonde.

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Let's just get the first official comments from Mr. 97 on his own here.

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Essentially not too bad. A lot

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of tips now.

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Should I say we walked out of that hairdressing salon and he just said I love this. This is actually it's better than I thought

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that's what I mean. That's what you want

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it's best case scenario. Well, you did have the best best seasons right? Yeah, yeah, right. What's right i think you got a little crushing that you might Yeah, well she nailed it. Yes.

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overtakes

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doesn't take much directions with her though have to be paid cuz she charges high price. Yeah. Work on this. Scott. And I'm proud of you mate. You've you've put yourself out there. And it's been a big week for you and rattled Yeah, and you've come out the other side blonde. You having more fun?

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Yeah, we'll see this weekend. This

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is what happens. tribe what's been going on man? what's what's happening?

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Oh, it looks been a busy week. I actually was in Melbourne yesterday a

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train it has been a thing that we've never met you in real life and you're listening for him we could have we could have squash that

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you're not crossed my mind very briefly. But see, I was I was doing a storey on you've all heard of five jails doing storey and five g which we got away I think on Monday so tomorrow was five j today show five days the next generation mobile network Tommy and I was flying to Brisbane and Melbourne and Sydney to test it and I just thought it'd be like I just turn up and just do some tests and you know be done. And I do a lot of typed like recorded storeys for TV I do live you know, it's on and off and it's finished, man we took fucking forever like speed test after speed test get that shot got after that shot and we were literally there for five hours and we just it was just non stop. So yeah, I didn't get away. I didn't get to do anything and I was going to knock on the door but didn't happen as it

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hasn't actually gone out yet. But type two bit that you did. Now. I

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got it got away tomorrow was tomorrow Monday. Monday morning on the Today Show

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travel filming with barefoot investor last week. Not this week. Yeah. Monday fact what a week. And this guy comes up to us because Naseem Hossain comedian, you you watch Netflix on Oh, yeah, yeah. Anyway, a guy came up to us and said, he's just going to be on telly tonight. It's like people in punters. It's funny. I mean, it's just what you think again? They're thinking right? You just see a camera. Yeah, and it could have something to do with TV.

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Well, I was doing a thing I was doing a piece to camera outside Flinders Street Station in Melbourne because, you know, I had to be iconically Melbourne. So it looked like I actually went to Melbourne and there was all these school kids at the church across the road. So we had buses, it was just constantly interrupted and then we had we had one big light because it was late afternoon. So we needed a bit of light and the amount of interruptions from the light little like people come by, and they were taking selfies using our light. So I go well awesome, like taking selfies in front of industry. How I was wearing a reflective jacket, and then I did it I've never done boxes before. I've never done Vox pops, and it's sad when some box pops and Gina was not my thing talking to people so talking to random people with a microphone very hard to get someone to agree to talk on a camera for a TV programme about a boring subject like fuck

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it getting on five Jay what we getting and Melvin? Look,

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I'm happy to break the storey briefly for you here but in in Sydney, I got 1033 megabits per second son gigabit Yeah, download in Melbourne I did get an 850 or something. But literally standing under the towel so there's a there's a couple of towels. I know the location of now, which it's it's hard to hard to spot but only the MCG I did one and it was Yeah. 850

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It's pretty good. Have you had AF her in the PF? We had that comment. It was

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a

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you know talking about five. So

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have you had anyone doing when you're doing live? anyone come behind and done anything? Oh, no. You

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know what? I've never. I don't I don't do a lot of live in, like in public places. I guess so like, next next week in New York. I won't even go there because we've been in a stadium. I've done New York City LA Times Square lives and there's a bit of you know, people yelling and stuff, but I've never had anyone you know, hold up a sign or drop the DAX or anything so now I've not had any major interruptions that'd be good because guys viral I got made

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today today. give you a sense with the five going back to the five j

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Tommy doesn't understand.

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Most people are trying to work out what five j man or they haven't worked out what three j meant either.

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Yeah, what I'm curious, but but just but on that, like that's one of the things I saw in the packages. Gina was like how many people have a problem with streaming even Netflix on your 4g phone? There's no actual speed issues with 4g, there's none it's all faster speeds. Yeah. It's the bigger bigger issue about complexity of the number of devices connected homes, connected vehicles and all that kind of stuff. It's very hard to justify 5g right now to be honest, but it's fast so who gives a shit but so if

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if you are you're under the tower doing it versus the reality of in five years time and it's you know, more people have it is it going to be like any of these things where it's like our peak time it will go down to you know, 100 megabits or something like that,

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I don't think it'll ever drop down to 100 but it will so if you go one block away from a tower, it's almost half the speed. So that's it's five G's biggest problem is it doesn't have the reach of 4g, but in a couple of years from the other technology like it was only they're only getting 400 like a few months ago they've literally tweaked the network so much that it's now double that so over the course of a couple of years it will get even faster and then when you put people on it it'll you know, compress a bit but it'll still be superfast like gigabit speeds in a couple of years that were

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What do you like when you come to Melbourne? What is something that you actually do like

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you don't like I say

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it's not the weather it's not the airport the distance of the airport into the city it's not the coffee culture it's not the bar culture. Look at the night you know architecture you do nice buildings do nice looking structures you know you put these stupid round things over freeways you got a nice bridges the buildings of all like the apartment buildings are designed well cities very bland like that. Yeah, no, I'll give I'll give you an architecture

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we've got a matchstick is he came into Melbourne is one of my clients that I used to personal trainees architecture firm. created that so that was French fry. I'll play that. It was pretty impressive. I mean, you do have the Harbour Bridge though. Bry it's

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the Opera House. Are you kidding? Yeah. You told me to find something Yeah.

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And you got the first Carl's Jr. Car Really? Well it was up on the north North Shore I went there was a nice IZ marriage trophy

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You know, I've actually been home a bit and we're about to travel because this is this is we season All right. So we're about to have Samsung announced a big phone with a pen the note so back on that then we've got ether Big Show in Berlin that's early September. And I'm always away for my daughter's birthday and Father's Day So Father of the dishes I'm actually home for my daughter's birthday. She doesn't know but what a surprise that she was she

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emails us Can you tell her to stop she's gonna hate this show. The only

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way she can say dad is that she watches

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and then we got Apple so you like yes, August September are bad times for my marriage. Good times depending on how you look at it.

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You've been doing what you've been doing more videos on AFTM around food. Yes, typically, what I find interesting is the tomato sauce review. Yeah, yeah, coming from a guy who you admit you don't like tomatoes? tomatoes.

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Three day deal and you have something in common?

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Yeah, in fact while the producer that was with me for that today show she was a bit blown away by my annoying eating habits and she while we're on the plane back to Sydney I didn't get to sleep she just asked me what foods I liked she wrote a list

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what is the food the food that you like? I'm actually curious to go through the full list now. organised August let's work out a

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specific treadmill. I'd love to be the list is only two notes pages long. And that's that's of all the foods that I will eat. Okay,

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can you actually can you read it out please? Okay,

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me now I want to it's probably only 10 let's be honest and she sent it to me

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cuz you're very fine. You was list of acceptable foods.

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Here we go. This is good. Cadbury Dairy Milk Alan snake tease. Then we go into the other food group late stage pork chops lamb cutlets.

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To be cooked well I'm guessing

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medium, medium high Really? Well. Any form of chicken fried roast barbecue grill with potatoes mashed baked or hot chips. Look I'm good with broccoli, Brussels sprouts. Carrots. If you want to make me salad it must be Iceberg lettuce. None of that other rubbish. ranch dressing.

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No dressing. Zero dressing.

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I love bread but not Rial linseed oil.

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Tomato Sauce not buddy. Was trunk seen it?

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That's a chat me you've got a real thing against Johnny.

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Correct. It's just stupid. Why would

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you wait it doesn't need a guy who doesn't like chat me.

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Dijon English mustard eggs apples but fried rice no prawns, white rice brown rice protein cheese habit of prone chips.

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I mean that right there? I kind of don't like drones

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but you like prawn chips? I don't

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like tomatoes. Yeah, fucking with your head. Yeah. Look, I mean there is more things. Yeah. But it really gets into more specific things like Livingston's

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beetroot, salt, pepper.

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Late was Anya. Weed pigs corn flakes trigger pop fruit loops, new trigger. So you're gonna be okay to kids party.

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As we wrote, he wrote the letter. She said, You know what, you're a fucking tenure.

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Is it always been like this for you? Have you like, Where do you think it stems from?

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I believe, and I'm yet to test this. And we will this will be a video I believe I'm a super taster. Wikipedia that Mason? I'm a super taster. Are you kidding? What does it mean to have too many taste buds. And so it's actually a condition. It's a weird.

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You get a couple of kids, my son, I give him the bad bits of the avocado, the brown bits of the banana, because he doesn't know any different than my thinking is this she's looking at fact that way. When we have so many opinions about so many things that we've just spoken to a 40 year old bloke who's just reeled off the worst food pyramid in the front. With

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kids, my kids, pretty, I think they normal kids. They're picky about some things, but they most things they're given. But what you find with kids, so I got my kids and 12, eight and seven. So the younger they are in that middle range, like when buddy gets a little bit older, he's going to start hating some things. But then they grow out of that. So Jackson, my oldest will eat a lot more than the other two,

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do you say you beat it out of them?

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If you have to.

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They grow up, they grow up out of it. And then I forget it gets easier Jacksonville like pretty much most things but he's a bit like me, like he won't have certain things are on the worst person to be at the dinner table because I can't force on doing anything. Because they just look at me and go, well, you're not eating it. So

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how are you with the temperature of food because my dad has a real issue with every restaurant we go to. There's a guarantee that his meal is going to be cold. He's I don't know what he's expecting. I'll

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be happy if I went to a restaurant I came out cold, but I have a feeling that maybe he's just expecting some

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self fulfilling prophecy, you start thinking this is going to be a ship called coffee, I'm going to fucking take it.

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Because now that I've recognised that he actually does it every time. I actually preempt it and be like, I bet you meal is going to be cold. And it puts him in a position where if it's cold, he's gonna have to sit there and eat it because otherwise he looks a bit like a baby.

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Yeah, but see, I'm I really compliant, like, and this is you're having fun with this. And I'm okay with that. But I will see a table with you know, people at a dinner with dinner with a tech company or something. And it only takes one like they bring out the entree, they put it down in front of everyone. I'll just go you know, I'm good. Thanks. There's no one there's no entree I'm going to eat unless they bring that party pause. So I'm waiting for the main because I look at the menu and there's going to be steak there. I'm good. And it turns to me, it always shows the fact the conversation about what I will know I'm cool with that. But I got invited to an event. In fact, the PR person for this company major telcos text me like two or three weeks before and said we're going to have a thing you valuable this night. We really love you to commerce with our execs. Oh, yeah, that sounds awesome. And then I got the invite and was to some, like super fancy restaurant, and it was a 12 course digger station. And I just got right back and I said, Listen, this is gonna sound really crazy, but I can't come because I don't mind being essentially the focus of attention for one course when I'm not eating but fucking 12 courses, none of whom I'm going to aid on man. I changed the main really Christmas in July instead. And I still didn't go but anyway.

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No, I appreciate

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it. I mean, I am. I never really drank. Like I would say like TJ wouldn't be fair to say that.

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You've had more beverages than me this year.

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I know. But that's the interesting thing. I never drank it all of you. I know that you're not a drinker.

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Now not so I didn't drink it till I was 21 I when I was living in Perth with a girl and wasn't going great. Let's be honest. And we came over here over to Sydney for a wedding was my mom's weddings on the bottle table and we had a massive blue beforehand she wasn't gonna come to the wedding because she had to sit with other people speak drama, so I just started drinking the wine the Rosemount shot and I on the table. Loved it. So I started drinking wine essentially to drown my sorrows. And then I went came over to go camping with my brother

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it was at the end of that storey I thought that was gonna get rid of

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why we're not together anymore. But also started drinking Rosemount shot night That was my drink because I tasted it this wedding photos. Okay,

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what is right

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yeah, it's a shot and I that's all I know. much information about any wine. Fancy sound because

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the rose I

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go camping with my brother and he stops at a bottle shop says What do you want? I went online some coke and he goes, you gotta drink. I went. He goes, all these people coming. I don't drink. I drink Rosemount shot and he goes, Well, fuck that comes out with a box of lemon Russkies. You guys. Trust me these tastes like solar. Do you know I went? Okay, so I drink lemon. Russkies or Shatner. Tea tray Have

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you got it? It's like that's the self fulfilling prophecy the guys faster with food. My guess of beverage would be Roski or UDL or a gym babe and Coalition for UDL. It's amazing. Now I really

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like it. I think it's a it's a quick that definitely gives you something to have a conversation but I think the hilarious thing is you're in so many scenarios with your work where you are getting the best I mean you are famous for criticising Apple when you were at their event on the daily talk show you spoke about their strawberry water and how upset you were about that

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there's so much strawberry water chat around our of

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us night it's really you know, it's a preferred infuse but you know I thought this event I'm going to be in New York next week they send you your itinerary and you know it's a packet tells you what you gotta do it says please use a Samsung phone it you know tells you what's happening what time of the event so it tells you what you haven't dinner every night I've already looked those restaurants up already know that the first night I'm good the second night Mexican Not gonna happen Mexicans delicious. Yeah, I'm the opposite.

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The radios with some.

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But if it's actual fucking proper Mexican, I'm out. So what is it? a steak with a mate then? Doritos.

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There's a lot of me if you've got a million fucking taste buds or whatever you like your taste buds or whatever you're calling it super taster

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supersize me.

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Surely something like it radios would just set you off surely. In regards to

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let's be clear, having been diagnosed. Peter at this point.

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Do you watch the show freaky aiders? No, it's one of my favourite shows is Netflix. It's on Netflix. TLC in the us it was on us Netflix. Very old. I remember watching it and it's just there's this guy who it turns out he had only eight burgers and so the like food psychologist or whatever is like we want to sort of expand you wouldn't have chips and but this is what I did. They're like you know what? We're going to give you a burger and they brought out like a a whopper that had lettuce in it. And he just he only had burgers without any vegetables. And we watched him as he tried to eat this burger and the only thing that was added was lettuce and he was cool.

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It was like he was dry raging and that is what it would look like if you watch me try something new because just the initially the smell will set me off and then so can we have a talk on tech tablets? How can I take capsules because the taste on my tongue does

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you have to tap it doesn't do tablets? No.

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Actually, can we make a pact trade for the first time we were pitching it up guys you can you let me forget throw first when you come to Melbourne next and you come into the day talk show studio. Can we get you in on a fat Friday and you ate something that you just not comfortable about?

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Right? He's all Tommy I don't know if I can eat need to eat new things. But I will have it hasn't been a day where I've gone off sheet. There's nothing I can eat today. Yeah, there's plenty of things like an eight I just got to be specific about it. So we

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were very much highlighting your work. But I think like look at Mr. 97 he's pushing his sort of he's and he's being uncomfortable by getting this hair done. And it's stretching him as a person he's much younger than us. He stretches the budget.

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I think we could do like a trip spread. I'd like to do that as a fact. We actually we get that list

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into the list. Yeah, yeah, we'll also

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do will create a blog post which is Trevor's lungs menu. And we can SEO for it. So whatever asked you what you know if you've got any food allergies or send them

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doing those taste test videos, right, we've done we've done meat pies, ice cream, tomato sauce, and there's one other I can't remember just chips like Smith chips and stuff. And bank it fucking ruin in the office with tomato sauce. Aereo by squirrelling and remember, actually came off the carpet. So we've now we're thinking we're gonna we're actually gonna we're gonna try and monetize that like you'd like to do on this thing. I don't know how the fuck you're ever gonna make money out of it now? Yeah, it's crazy. But anyway, so we're thinking, you know, we're going to go to to the big supermarkets. We're gonna go to brands and actually sell this thing and make some money, right? Yeah, so we just got an email from someone who used to work at a car company that moved Vegemite, like I'm just all in on that I'm just gonna be doing Vegemite spreads, but see, I'm not gonna do Nutella vs Vegemite because I will not eat Nutella. She's not gonna have Well actually,

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we've got someone from Vegemite TJG in the building

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video too. Well don't

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spoil that. Jacob. Can you see that? out there on the right on the left hand side if you just throw that over here Yeah,

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you can catch good covering all four of these.

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So here we go. This is Tommy's we promised this a while ago that when the video came out, we would have

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ladies and gentlemen Mr. Vegemite breach of

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this is a sock puppet that we if you look at our Instagram account you can see me with this in my hand

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here so when I get high on tonight I'm going to make small talk with people when they say what you do today I'll be like I was on the Today Show this morning and then I did a podcast with a fucking

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on this morning

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has been for today show

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no, no listen just on being for them. We have to talk.

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I believe I believe I remember an Instagram storey whereby you read a storey and his storey. He was talking about being gronk on the gronk squad it was verified gronk on the fucking number one ticket holder

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King gronk

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Johnny come lady deadly verified girls

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we've got King gronk their queen gronk Gemma what's mentioned them army now I'm walking into a live show that will

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be holding the fucking ring.

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That's a beautiful visual that way to say Trevor and Ben Fordham have a jelly five.

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It depends on what flavour What flavour

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jelly otherwise

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just you and Ben Fordham having some form of fight and I want to

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reduce the tension. I feel like reducing the fight would be

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just back from talking about mace and pushing the boundaries and you know three today or travelling over here. What do you do? Have you got something that you that you push the boundaries? No.

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I mean, what is it? What is up for you? What are the feeling like that you're out of your comfort zone?

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You know, like the unknown I would have loved the last three days shooting that storey for the today show was a massive boundary push because it was it was a lot of extra is more work than I ever knew went into television. I was actually the cameraman going man, I didn't realise this much work went into it, you know? Yeah. But we've made see we've made type storeys when we're overseas, we just use a little signing a road, Mike and it just kind of works. We just do our thing. Whereas this was, you know, there's a script and you know, we're standing I'm standing at Sydney Harbour and I have a real problem with the with the sun. Like, I need sunglasses.

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glasses. It was a bit it was it was coming right out. And when you're on TV, you can't wear sunglasses,

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right? Imagine you wearing settings, right? Well,

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shiny, pretty broad on us tonight. It's

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over it and then a glare thing and all. It was just so much extra effort. So but but I don't think it I didn't feel like I was pushing the boundaries. I was just it was just something that took longer. Oh, man, I don't I don't think there is anything that I do. Do you think having having kids pushes your boundaries at all? Like, does that make it force you to get out of your comfort zone? Yeah, it does. Because it's a priority thing on you know, the things and Tommy sorted by this a lot. And I nod in agreement every time you talk about it because Josh would never understand. But now it's just a priority change. You know, it's just like everything in your life changes as a priority. Right? But see, the thing for me was it was perfect. Because I don't like going out to dinner. I don't like going to events I don't like so I would just say to people who didn't want me somebody are just gonna got kids. It's a fucking great excuse. My kids are the best excuse ever. Like I can use them as an excuse to get out of almost anything. So

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you've done a great job job Travis of selling in. Yeah.

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A neighbour kid.

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Maybe? Yeah. I said to someone yesterday, I said, Listen, you married guys. Now I said don't have kids. Right. Okay. And, and we're talking about kids. And he's like, Hey, you really selling that to me or not? And I'm like, it's the best thing in the world having kids just like seriously being married the best thing in the world, which is exactly what married people with kids say to people who are not married? Because we want other people to suffer the same way.

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There is definitely I feel like a bit of that when people are

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to this called badly.

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No, I think it makes it makes a lot of sense. I think it is. It is ironic. You're doing food reviews. I feel like at the beginning of any food review, you need to say I'm Paul's fact.

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The problem with the food review thing is it is limited. Like if you look at that list, there's there's very few things we can now compare. But we've got some IO end sausages, we can do sausages, you know, from a butcher from a Wallace from the calls. I think we've only got like five episodes in us before I run out of things to take so we'll have to bring someone else

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now. I mean, you pump up Sydney so much. Yeah, three day deal. has been talking about going to Sydney. Now I don't want to throw this on too. But we mentioned it previously. I don't know if you know that we're going to bring this up. But would it be possible How long have we got deal?

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As of today? 24 days?

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Okay, we got 24 days really 24 days for deal to spend a day with you in Sydney.

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Allen's lovely sounds like a punishment more than

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we thought that because we've never met you at least one of our team members can come out of kilter to exist fuck.

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So here's the thing I heard the I think you tagged me or something. Or we got I got a message saying you're gonna have to listen on the weekend. Because we want to get deal there. And it's like, it's a lot of pressure. That was a fun day you throw that on. But, like my problem, religious idea, this is the worst time of year for you to for you to want me to be involved with to come to Sydney because I'm in New York. And then I got to Berlin, so I'm not even sure that it would have worked. Okay, you know, I get back from New York. I got family. So I get back from New York on the 10th I think it's a Saturday morning of August. So what I think in fact, deal bucket. I've already booked at night. You're coming? Seriously. Monday, the 12th. What, right? Monday, the 12th. Your flight is at 12 o'clock lunchtime. Now the reason I went with lunchtime because I think you said on the show you said we'll get him an early flight have a whole day that doesn't work that way because my problem is if he has an early flight I might be I don't know what day is going to be the today show in advance. It's

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like what are we gonna do?

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Right so he's gonna fly up lunchtime I'll pick him up at the airport will do as I think Tommy said you can pretty much knock over in a couple hours. The big things I drive through the Harbour Bridge we go the Opera House we do some of those kind of sightsee kind of things, a book accommodation just in the city new Hyde Park so because I don't want to fucking be with him for 20 be in the city so you can wander around and take some photos and do all that kind of thing. And you don't fly out until the following evening. So you got a whole second day in which like if if the planets aligned properly, and I've got a today show segment all come together the hotel and I'll bring into an actual big media company. And you can come in and see how that's done and then will you can do something else with us today. We might grab a burger. You get a flight home that night. So do you got a fucking idea might have baulked it in your name? I think we

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also need to tell him one thing what st number is he flying in?

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Oh, yeah, when I because my online when I booked flights, with either myself or other people booking it, there's only one way to fly. That's business class of the front of the bus in seat one AU flying business class.

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Why is SY

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because I figure like a week and a half later you gotta fly fucking 16 hours.

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Remind me about

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the also the great thing which I saw because Josh and I knew about this, we've been keeping a bit Hush Hush. YNI means business class, which means access to the lounge. So you can go you could go to the airport at 7am

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what are you a trip when you're at the

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beach? We know the list is pretty obvious. You know what a ham and cheese toasted

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bread rolls?

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smash like three of them. What do you think? Do I To be honest, I have no idea what to say. I'm a little speechless.

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I mean I was when

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it's the most generous thing that I think I've ever seen. Yeah, yes. So lovely.

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What else I'm gonna use my points forget she'd love

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by toaster. toaster is a great yeah,

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I can have a toaster and every room. This is

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this is so good. I mean, I'm excited.

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Because Yeah, and I take the we take the piece out of the moments anything but deal CD so much.

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It's a bit of CD. It's more beautiful.

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What is the weather like at the moment? I mean, it's fucking

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It's nice. I can't see this is awful in Melbourne and I was literally freezing in Melbourne. So you've come from Canada to Melbourne where it's probably feels warm. This is going to feel like the outback. Yeah, I'm tipping.

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When it rains in Sydney in winter, it's like it's not like here. It's a swim at Bondi high. Place. I'll drop in

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public? Well, it's a bit of a lot of work.

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It's been a huge week here on the daily talk show Mr. 90 sevens got bleached blonde hair. He's looking absolutely cute as it's,

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it's, you've got to watch the video, go to the daily talk. show.com. And watch it is one of those ones. What do you what do you think 97 of your haircut? what's the what's the vibe that you're feeling? What do you feel your confidence level has increased? Yeah, I'm more confident wearing. Like having having colour my hair. I didn't think I'd ever be

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confident enough to wear actual like, bleach my hair and get rid of brown. It's crazy. We got bullied into it. So,

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so good.

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So do you think you'll keep the head on? What's the what's the plan?

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For a period of time and then go back to brand? Yeah, what I've worked. I haven't worked out

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yet. I don't know how many gym sessions I want you to get. Oh, that's right. We did set up that fit every week and that 97 has bleached blonde hair, I go to the gym twice, which was sort of a it's a weird deal. And a lot of debt to a lot of promises.

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bring any

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thing is when you have a bit of debt a little bit more doesn't.

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Quietly like this. We're amongst friends, and we just not talking about the book anymore.

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I don't want to talk about the book. But things happen. Things happen and arcs happen and storeys, and storeys play out when they need to play. And all

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I'll tell you is that whatever he's written, there's a bunch of pages over there on our Mandel pacing, which is worrying because he actually loses though. We need the full book. So the care factor of the current writing that he's done, very like

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what did you talk about on the latest episode of two bikes talking tech, you just recorded that

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we literally just recorded that an hour before the show before this. Look, Samsung Apple over Regulus. And also HDTV. Like we had this thing during the week when the ashes started, where people are whinging about not being able to get Jim HD which is a free to air channel because they've got Fox Hill. And I'm like just fucking unplug your Fox till there's an antenna coming through the air. It's like Americans get excited about the fact that with an antenna you can get TV stations without paying a cable fee. It's fried away. But what about this I've got Josh should be aware of a fish box. Yeah, the fish TV little little set top box. I've got access to real time data that they have showing you what people are watching this exact time. And at nighttime during the ashes a big sporting event 80% of people are watching standard definition, not high definition TV. So you've got the high definition TV, why are you watching the the lowest possible quality it's that's

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why some people just because I enjoy the fact that me just going through fade away and I feel like it doesn't seem to be an order. I don't know if I need to reach in my thing, but it feels like if I want to get on channel 10 and I'm like I'm on standard def

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and end up flicking shoulder, right? Because so you've got you got 237 910 for example. And so nine is standard definition. If you want to go to high definition, you've got to go through 20 3070 to get to 90. So like if you're watching Channel line, you should be watching Channel 90. Yeah, that's a simple thing. High Definition version. I think people don't do it. Yeah.

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That's interesting. The thing right so is this is this is the fifth thing is that? Is that like you having a relationship with Optus or something? It's giving you that data? Or does everyone ever

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know Fitch? Well, I have a great relationship with the good people at HH on this. No offence is an independent company. They sell them through telcos like Optus, but they're an independent business. But they use they give the information to TV execs and stuff so they can you know, you can see that night and like I can look at it right now. And I can see the channel sevens got more views and channel. I know it's only a sample of fetch viewers. But it's every single fetch box and it's staggering. It's amazing data. There's 38,848 fish boxes on right now watching TV. I'm actually

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glad I got you on trip because the bachelor was on I don't have a table and now you're across the Bachelor. You've

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lost Ninja Warrior. I was across that because my kids are into it. But now I'm not watching any other.

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What about you and Ben for them taking it out on the Ninja Warrior?

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I wouldn't make it possible to first jump little on the first obviously

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I feel like I could do the one we

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just fucking visualising and

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Josh has high hopes for his abilities on that course. up there with

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the one dog and as far as you do, well, the one if

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they if it's the one where you just hold on speaking roles.

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Let's back in Hold on. Hold on. Mike. Listen, Tommy, if you can make that happen. I'll do that up against him because Josh will fall as fast as I fat that's

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all God.

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You would love nothing more than being on a ninja warrior course.

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I'd like it not not for the TV show. That the people on it freaks. Yeah, sit back.

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Yeah. Between the sort of group that's

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actually watch it or not.

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I haven't taken a try but I've seen

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catch up might it's you know, you can watch it on your phone.

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Yeah. What do

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you what do you actually to catch up on something? I'm not joking.

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Dude, there's an app. There's an app for every TV station nine now. 10 play seven plus, you just have the app by my kids watch more Ninja Warrior on nine now either on their iPads or on the on the TV because it's a nine now app. Then they do a live TV. Interesting. My kids don't know what live TV is apart from the today show.

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And so did you say it's on the iPad?

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You can get the app on any device. They've got iPads so they watch it on there.

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What about like Apple using like an apple tv or anything to run all those? I know.

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Again, you could you could if you wanted to. We've got an Apple TV as well. But my kids are the iPad generation. So if they want to watch something so when they go mass was on see the problem with TVs my kids go to bed. It's fucking seven o'clock. They're up in the room. And by 730 they're there. Lights out. Yeah, they're not seeing any of this stuff. But we talked about it. And now here it is watching it on stage. So they watch Lego masters entirely as a catch up programme and on their iPads. They just get their iPad when it's when screen time and they would they would waste essentially their screen time watching TV.

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Yeah, is it too much? teli few kids now

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because they don't like they I depends what you mean by teli. Right? They watch. They watch YouTube, they'll watch you know catch up like nine out or they'll watch you know Netflix. But they only get an hour a day. their iPads locked out after an hour a day.

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And so do you find that that between YouTube or one of the catch up apps, what did I gravitate to?

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They pretty much the YouTube would be they go to Youtube Kids. But when I say to them listen just it's this is in a like you watch something they watching you go. It's nothing bad about it, but fucking rubbish. Yeah, yeah, listen, what do you go back to Netflix and have a look at that, because then they discover Captain Underpants or some other thing, which is, you know, thematic, and it's got episodes, and it's a better programme. So YouTube is where kids that I go first. And then you give him a Netflix account, they'll be in there. And really, I mean, catch up, like survivor and Ninja and Lego masters. Those things do very well on catch up for TV stations, because they're cultish and kids will talk about them at school as well.

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I feel like I would like to know your opinion on where the streaming services are going. I've had a few conversations lately where people like Netflix, they their business model shot the producing too much content too much money, but I feel like it's always an educated explanation of a very intricate business model that is making billions of dollars

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well, I mean, sorry, generating

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the generating

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a lot of revenue, which

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doesn't look like Amazon, you know, Amazon has never made a profit, selling goods. Like in retail, real matter profit. amazon.com never profit, they make money out of web services,

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not out of hosting.

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net, yeah, Netflix, you know, makes billions of dollars, but they'd spend it all again on on content. I don't think they making a profit either. So my biggest problem might be biggest challenge with all those things is here we go this

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is what I knew would come out as a

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fitting fitting into what we have as a regulatory environment here in Australia, you know, you've got writings, you know, programmes are MMI there's different times there's different things that happen your kids can be on YouTube and they could see anything you know, it's it's really really a deep pit of potentially anything and it's a mess my parents don't watch parents just go Yeah, okay, all cooked into you watch your teacher whatever that I pay attention. Whereas Netflix and stand there is kids kind of areas. So I'd prefer my kids were Netflix and Stan than YouTube any day of the week, because the content is a little bit more, I guess targeted for them. But they don't make it much OZ programmes. They're not contributing to the astronomy and entertainment industry in any way. Like Stan he's but that's about it. So I think we got a long way to go before we kind of find the the middle ground for where that all ends up.

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Well, yeah, they could be regulated to produce X amount of content within Australia for

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in the same way that Australian TV networks are required to be asked a certain amount of Australian content. I believe Stan and Netflix and others should be as well, if they want to stay would probably already make it because I make some heat for shows. But Netflix would be dead overnight. And they'd been approved. And then, you know, everyone would march in the streets because Netflix knows everything else knows.

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Trevor, thank you so much for what you do with three day deal. Yeah, extremely exciting. I'm looking forward to it. I was going to will set you up with a camera and everything so you can film the whole journey and create a great video of the whole the whole experience I pressure. So

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the 12th Monday the 12th of August 12

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Yep. And fully jet lagged haven't got back from from New York. So we'll be sweet. Well,

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you giving him the whole travel experience, right? He's living like trip for full of experience. I feel like we need to wear business where I think we need to get in there applies. I think it needs to be today. Ready? He needs he needs his blazer he needs to be ready. He needs to have a budget for that.

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From there, it'll be fun will will will make a list of things that we absolutely have to see showing you can make a list of things you have to do and I'm not saying I'm not going to babysit you because I don't want to but I just think you're better off I'll show you have a great time and then I'll we'll have lunch or something because then you've got some freedom to just go and do all the she had know where he was going to be you. I can't wait.

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He's self dependent. He's good.

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Yeah, that's good.

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To the rest of the month of the

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month, yeah, it was just a better place.

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Thank you. AFTM. Calm he's got his podcast. He's got two blogs talking tech. And he is kicking gronk Thank you for coming on the show. It's a daily talk show weekend Banta it's been Sunday. Huge one fucking 97 with lights head Instagram storeys, guys you've got you got to go on Instagram anyway, because the amount of visual content of 97 with that hair is out of this world. Any last last words Mr. Nice. Nice. Just epic job. It actually looks pretty good.

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happy with it.

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Who would have thought only 97 would

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benefit maybe I'd like I get to pick between going to the gym to

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work it out. You want the gym now? We went to the gym mid days.

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Yeah, right. Yeah, we'll get there. We

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also scheduled talk show Trevor Thank you very much. And we'll see on Monday. God say guys