- May 30, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Wednesday May 30 (Ep 97) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
Our mate Tommy D was nearly on The Bachelor and how does Derek get to work?
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The Daily talk show I'm Josh Johnson. I'm telling Jackie's and this is a conversation sometimes worth recording Episode 90
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I save it I sort of nice seven today's Wednesday yeah so like the weather is ridiculous as it is a bit of Ryan and Josh got cool
yeah quarter I don't want to be caught and run city how much she dropped when you your rain rider app. Yeah
That thing was dumb because it would only tell you when I was running when it was raining if
if this episode sounds peculiar coming from Josh is because he's basically a ghost disclosure so far. He's the he's the kid from
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
too much. I know. I was really I didn't, was filming in Ballarat.
Also, there's pre eating because you've just walked into my house and started complaining about the fact that you ate a burrito and not chosen now. You fucking about blow up. Yeah. So I know. I
was filming in Ballarat didn't need that much. I had a for Kasha like a village. So guys, this is another one of Josh's food diary. I had a doing two things you hate me talking about the weather. And yeah, what I know. So I had a roasted vegetable for cash for cash, shoot for cash or for catcher for cash. Or you'd say for catcher catcher.
Of course you would. And how's it going to be here for cash for Kershaw has Josh is giving you a car show you want to come down? I haven't I haven't seen since
2004. But you will happily pull me up on the fact I say wrong. The only time you save for Kasha it's on the podcast hilarious. I'm going to be recorded a word for cash out to be right for cash.
This is this happened yesterday to at the time of night I start thinking words don't I had a for Kasha for capture. All right.
While we're while we're talking about the food. I heard one of the stupidest things i think i've ever heard the other day. Can we just quickly say the reason that I'm so follow is because I just say Mexican. Yeah, just said that you ate nachos. And a burrito rolled in here. Like a ghost to school. I miss you. Basically, a small helium balloon run anything on the roof? I've shocked my body. I think you'd legit going to shock I've felt that too. Like, I almost feel my heartbeat in my stomach. Yeah,
my chest is saw and I just feels like I've
it's it's almost like, you know, when you've eaten so much food that you could go to the straightaway. Yeah,
it's like it's what my son does to the banana and does a sheet instantly. Dude, he will drink a bottle and she'd she'd at the other
end. He's just making room isn't. That's how I feel. That's how I feel. I'm just I need to make some room because I forgot that I had the for cash because it's been so long. Anyway. So what we're telling Yes,
I heard this. I heard this on the radio driving to work and it was grabbed from that new show that Sophie monk is hosting. So it's like a lot. I think it's love Island or it's some island where
it's a reality show. She's the host there's all these couples vying to you know, vying for love more searching for love anyway one of the dudes was talking to the girl and he said I'm a I'm a kangaroo Attarian
was like you he can I guess he only eats lean mate is no
because I was thinking I could we get close to this dude is a kangaroo kangaroo Attarian is someone who eats oh this is the way he said it I eat kangaroo and fish because they both aren't farmed okay
now I get it yeah but a lot of fishes farmed isn't it depends on what fishy rating yeah I mean this salmon files like trap farm
I get it so you he likes game he game mate he's like Joe Rogan. I think he does that he no no this is a banker he's a boy I mean he's on that show. Of course he is. But he so it's it's your you're thinking is because it's not fun. is the only reason you eat the meat made by the producers. Would it like every idiot on these shows? need their stick? And somehow he's drawn out of the hat that he shtick is the only it can grow
it was just about your medical board your HD Could you imagine a sticks I would have? I would go terrible terribly on one of those shows. I think we think too much. Yeah, I think what Hamish Blake saying on a podcast I was listening to recently about the best people in radio are the ones who don't want to be in radio and
it's like it ends up being the recording podcasts again ends up
being the people that are on reality shows because they wouldn't have advised to be some radio stuff from you know young ages. But it's because they are outrageous a lot of the you know
people on those stupid shows end up being just totally out there. It was so self awareness puppy today. The way you're holding he's lying down. We're in Tommy's we're in St Kilda were lined Tommy's lying down I'm on the couch
no one is going to
know what you were saying is not going to be heard by anyone else. If you can hear it send us an email because I reckon if some people are in college I've got land base you've got every single time you pop the fucking they have subwoofer is going off you've got headphones on that's that's and they blaring into your ear I guess maybe evils?
It was Derek. Derek has one of our avid listeners share that today's Yeah. friend of the show. also been on an episode. Interesting. I mean, now I'm talking about podcast the on the podcast, your favorite thing? Yes. Right. He's wife because he's got a podcaster. His wife said that he has this different sound in his voice. He sounds like a bit flirty, a bit like getting bit romantic when he's wearing headphones on. He doesn't have to you don't talk as loud as you.
Well, I think he definitely I could do a direct comparison. As you know, he's got the Ozzy vinyl show, but will be like this. Yeah, he is. He is a favorite of mine.
vinyl going back a few years. So what he's saying is he he he feels that he does what you do. Because he's like, I can tell Josh wears headphones. Because he doesn't project his voice. He talks as loud as he needs to be sure he's hearing it come through the headphones. Yeah.
As the feedback that night now I'm trying not to do that we feedback
is that you sound like you want to sleep with him. Yeah.
Well, Derek, the cues are slightly off
so you can get Taryn I think the
I wonder how going reality show
so you're saying you think out over think? Yeah, I
would. You would almost get sell mercy. If you'd become real freaky. you'd stop lying I think you like you play the game. I think you'd actually be good at that actually get emotional you get really tired and you get angry would you get naked would you get naked in like the big brother house
would you show I feel like at that point I'd be so detached like if you're gonna go on one of those shows you like screw it you might Yeah, I mean I was probably probably got more tackle and you would have given ego But there's one thing that I've noticed notice anything different about me
that atrocious neck beads gone is that he had that the brain is like, Oh, you look so good. Like when I shaved? Yeah.
And it got me thinking I would be so good on beauty in the geek. I know that I've got a partner so it doesn't really make you wear some Shi t shirt that you would have worn for 10 years ago. Literally just being be wearing one of mine Votto t shirts. All right.
Now let's to call Eric in you the JJ of 2005. Yeah,
it was It is literally the dose unless of his shirt. Actually how you
were very young. Yeah, but if you took what you will there, you wish what's your
best and lettuce and JJ is well, but they had a brand called mango which was like the whole selling point that mom would give me was that mango and member there are actually made in the same factory and just one of them's got a G and one of them's got to be. But
the interesting thing about building the Gators I their producers used to contact me every year when they were trying to find people asking for names of people that I knew. Hang on. They said Josh Do you know anyone not Josh would you BK they contacted me originally about whether I was if I could yeah because I had Melbourne geek the website or so they would search Melbourne geek and I was the first thing I'd come up and they'll reach out
here and so
it's been 10 years
I mean I can go home
yeah I don't know I do like the the idea of them
yeah i mean i feel like the problem is then it becomes like that's your defining moment in life is Big Brother guy
I saw a Instagram photo just before I follow this dude team robots yeah so he was the bachelor that's right when it's time to Cairo physio. physio dude. So Tommy day my mate was up again we have to tell me we texted you this slipping into my damn yeah so you made before we
can even him on the party he was hearing your doors at tone yeah your your voice Tell me days got a great voice yeah he yeah we need to just get him on yeah talk to me talk anyway he was got down to the last two or three within that era of the bachelor which was like the first era when it was like read to me day he would be so good on the bench well he's very much like that team robots guy like yes similar like they literally would have been going who do we have like a silver fox
esque sort of as well
i i actually yeah I think Tommy's a bit to where I think they want the unaware person on the show yeah sure and maybe that's why you wouldn't do grades because you took away yeah yeah my my point is he's he's killing it that he's leveraged that show to the eyeball knocking day
he's killing it and otherwise yeah he's not tell me these not leveraging when he got down to the final to
what a story you do your I can
pick up how much can you pick up using that line to live I think you can lay high you know the bachelor yeah so
I was I was nearly pics pardon I said I you know the batch
doesn't really have I think you
can ride a second place it's essentially a second place yeah
you're probably I feel like that would be the type of of because there's no proof it's not like some sort of public thing It wasn't like he nearly one something so you'd have to show the like
look here's the email from the CISA
that's the one that said you didn't get it yeah exactly these uh. But this dude leverage a man who's flying first class was ridiculous he's always flying around yeah so
you think that he's flying first class because he's leveraged to leverage the social media he's built a huge training app like the robots Mr was Sam What did is this literally what ever seen all the Tommy day would have been perfect for that reading that sort of thing
well that's my son he's crying Sam Ward is killing it with these woodshed x Wing Chun and now he's got
he's got the woodshed but he's also got 28 days with Sam or whatever it is yes
which online program get amongst
that one thing I wanted to talk about the time the thing is with those things really quickly it's like how many ways can you lose why like they like listen to our it's it's not fruit episode that we did yeah you if give me money and I'll tell you how to lose weight it's definitely not a not chosen a burrito is they know what a boat is really having a having a crack are
he's walking up my son that's
this time either the old on the podcast like that doing theatrical performances as worth and I enjoy
you know I got a social I did a social media post celebrating nearly reaching 5000 downloads of our podcast this month it's a real family affair this podcast sorry guys I don't know if people can even hear the the crying probably can that's okay let's just pretend it's not happening we do have to helping with by the juices juices and why life partners
such as opposed celebrating gotta gotta be the feedback on there I already called anytime we get any feedback that we're a bit pissed about or wondering about we call each other just to have a good vent
so guy nice guy I know and I respect named Josh commented on the
on the post. And he said so quickly.
The post is literally it's a graph.
It's a line graph. And it shows that we got five like when nearly 5000 and I was excited. He said, congrats. I'm like, Oh, this is nice. What if the goal was to produce meaningful creations rather than hitting arbitrary metric? Mm hmm.
This is the thing with social media.
Don't think that there's you any place for constructive feedback on social media? You don't think there is no well because he's like a dinner party. If If I invite you to my house for dinner party. Yeah. Even if the schnitzel is slightly overcooked. Do you use that as an opportunity to say like congrats on this little bit overcooked i'd officially say it's schnitzel nuts Nestle schnitzel with a schnitzel with with her age. I forgotten what that other thing is. What's like an old school, Panini for Kasha?
This is such a DOM episode. Yeah, I sent him the mental health podcast episode that we did. Yes. If he lands on this one around meaningful content. So far, we've taught you your claim to fame of having a mate who I so also now claim is my main because he slot in dB and it was nearly on The Bachelor. Yeah,
he said, Well, I think I think the meaningful content is very subjective to the person that's listening. Like we're not a poker podcast focused on mental health. But yet we're two blokes who have our own mental health and my friend Iranian blog just couple of blogs to blogs
that we do we we talk about these things. And so if Derek's in his car right now, listening to your beautiful you're doing the thing that I love, which is painting the picture of what people cannot use, there might be might be a really cold day yes pack. It's kind of a member was just pulled up in Collingwood. He's about to go into these factories bit nippy in there. So he's staying in the car for another five minutes. And he's listening for the last five minutes of the boys. Yeah, and he's thinking, you know, this is well,
it's only being 16 minutes. This is going to go for how
we thought I enjoyed it. I know that little escapism down see you ain't a road Yeah,
well, I reckon that's a joke on punk rock. Thank you would catch punk rock woody anyway, doesn't matter. We don't need to get into how direct gets to work will drop his
address. Yeah, well,
Google Map route No, but I think it's um, yeah, there is that thing of Okay. What is what is meaningful content? I feel like we're doing meaningful content. Yeah, it was probably a good it's a good thing to think about. But what I almost question is, it's like what position has someone gotten into which is the default is that they need to proselytize I think that's the word proselytize this idea of like I almost feel like he's so we're niche now that he can't even subjectively see when and when not to give advice like he's almost made you know he's made a business out of giving advice to people
I mean we speak to each other before we fire off explosive a man of yeah to get another perspective and I'm sure that's he hasn't thought what really about you didn't bother me that much. It just makes me sick though.
But it makes me think of my I wouldn't be doing the any time that I've ever thought about doing something like that to someone else. I normally why up the pros and cons. It's like a pickup game. If you're a avid listener. You remember the schooling of the Cape Cod I hear someone saying that
again. Josh was using a coffee table coffee cup which was a cake up anyway.
Oh, you brought up a couple guys look, I started want to go into it. But in funnily enough braise talking about cape cops
Bray has been
Bray works hi tiger, and they're an office with a bunch of other people different businesses and one of the ladies said we need to get better at recycling guys when they get better at recycling so I said okay so Bree and everyone started putting the cups in like that there were like recyclable whatever so putting putting them in the recycling bit and the girls Now come back and said okay everyone in the office now need to Cape cap
brace reaction he paying for the cape cup. Who's if you're going to be the fucking cape top police, like if we're now enforcing that you need to keep cap if I can buy me Cape Cod.
I'm about to go to Europe. That's true.
And I also do and so and we've got a friend who's very environmentally conscious. And she's like, don't want to do a cape cap because I'm not dealing with the bullshit claim. Like the like having to carry around a dirty Margaret and cleaning it was it's true. I just want to bring you back to the Snitzer schnitzel. Yeah, I actually
liked the schnitzel analogy because social media is the the best bits
and if you're on there to celebrate and then people kind of just bring you down a moment but maybe that's what he feels like he job is to do to
it's the equivalent of his come over to my house and he thinks it's an episode of my kitchen rules. And he's
like he's just he just slammed like
the schnitzel was under this is the news accident was dry. And there was not enough sauce and it was disgusting. I might might wait until we have at least hedges. Yeah, it is. I did. I was just your response to it was Yeah, I just went into like, I yeah, we're creating meaningful content. I say that is the vision rather than the goals. We have small goals around impact. But the other thing too is when not that obsessed with the numbers, even though I refresh it every 40 minutes. 40.
The reason I check it every 40 minutes is just out of curiosity, you know, saying if we're gone viral? We haven't yet it
is one way to think that's how you're looking at it.
No one I'm literally just looking at it. Because I don't know. It's almost like a tick now. So something I do this is by far been the most challenging, but easy in the same sense, creative endeavor I've gone in terms of creating constantly saying for you. Yeah, I mean, it's 915. I got home from Ballarat at 730, and I drove from Richmond to St Kilda to do this podcast so we got done for the day and then we're on the road again tomorrow we're driving to morning till tomorrow to we've got a guest on for a surprise guest
we'd love to build up yeah good surprise now though they'll be great and you know so yeah i think that this is different and maybe that's where I'm wary of is that the the feedback I'm not taking it personally like yeah it's trying not to take things personally but I don't think I necessarily do I think I normally maybe I'm too judgmental in a now analyzing what might be wrong with them in that pace like my that is my default which is like what has brought them and so maybe I'm thinking you know what he's never listened to the podcast yeah and that's also too if you've never listened to it and you comment maybe he has listened and that's what annoyed me a bit about the old the the thinker girls stuff like the comments that were coming through with that. So the thinker girls who I've mentioned the blown up in the last week doing a whole thing on sexism in radio, which came out just after we did the women in radio thing. So it was pretty timely. Well, we want to it first. Look, that's not what it's about that I think it was probably simultaneous, I think bit No, they all these people commenting about, like, on what they've said, but they just read a little bit of an article where it's like, if it's even not to mention in Russia piano again, which I think is Emre siano for trying to like do that in fact night anyway for
catch Africa, Asia schnitzel since all and no, but you say, what's been taken out of input into news reports versus the actual tone in which it was said, Dude, it's my major concern. You've asked me What's your worry about all this stuff with the media? And it's exactly what you're saying. The problem with these outlets, these media outlets is that they feed the bullshit into the first few paragraphs. And that's all people read. And then they take that this guy, he's, he's, he's my two cents on top of that. And that's why like, at a glance, what are people saying? They're saying the things that's pushing the narrative of whoever's writing it gross.
If you could only have two apps on your phone, what would it be
and the baby monitor to say where Bodie is when your
dates gross arseholes reality? Yeah, directed
by big now, so
messenger. So can I now back No,
he serious, the only thing I get from messenger is people I went to school with in like 2004 saying, hey, Josh, I'm looking at getting a MacBook Pro, which I get.
I mean, I'm missing that like you messages, messages, messenger.
Facebook app messages, I mean, is find a different different, different.
I just want to
Chrome so I can Google stuff. Why we're just used Safari I can I use? I use Chrome too. But I just feel like it's really boring if you've got two apps. And that's what you're gonna do. Instagram. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was thinking Instagram as well. Why we that board of my conversation with you that you open up your phone? I was just thinking about it. Because what I was actually thinking
about this, anyone? If you're on an island, you had one food on the count of 3123 tomatoes. Yeah.
Excuse the cuisine. It's actually the question I ask is causing. But the know the reason that I just brought that up was because you're talking about media consumption. And what it got me thinking about was, yeah, what we do consume. And he's the what sort of newspaper if we're to read a newspaper, which one is going to ruin our brain lists? Yeah, the least I should say, I
don't know I just is I've got trust issues because I don't know what narrative they're trying to push all of these things
you don't know you don't completely and Yeah, there is. That's probably what I like documentary stuff where it's like, oh, we've got a few in video form. Okay, we can see the person we can sit there feels like you're getting a little bit more information. What am I saying? podcast app, it gives me access if I was to have two apps Yeah,
podcast app, it gives me access to people free thought people talking about the stuff they want to
Yeah, the The cool thing about the podcast app now I was telling you this this morning Apple sent me an email I can now see how long people are listening to the podcast and they
dropped off 15 minutes ago this
is a real winner this one this is we're gonna call this the superfan app because the only reason you can get this far is if you're fucking super fan but the Derek stay with your buddy so you know if we don't hear from derek derek send us an email here is so then we know if Derek's dropped off we're in a lot of travel
last time you visited I was sitting and I after a dog who you said was a Labrador which is in fact a watch
golden retriever had very similar sees but now even dog crisis to counsel
my in five years I probably won't be able to say that you can't say it now I'm telling it is it is a lot more gold releases listening
yes dog racist
know so I've The amazing thing is with Archie the dog
you know we I was saying the other day that you scared of swans straight yeah in Richmond he doesn't like trams and and so the thing was and he likes motorbikes. You're going to be kid carefully doesn't run after motorbikes but no so I was I was walking him have been walking him the last couple of days and he was pulling the late as we've got like you would sort of various like I just loves to just like drags me alone when I was like, You know what, I'm not gonna have this every single time he pulled on the lead you beat him No,
I stopped, stumped him stopped stopped. I said to stop
stop Archie and then would stop and I would only start when he would stop and so it was this awesome thing where he started to any feast on getting ahead of me I'd stop out hold the lead so that he he wasn't moving and our walks are sort of semi in front of him and then start walking again and then when you would walk too far ahead of me I'll stop I'll stop him and then walk a little bit ahead and then letting keep going so yeah you think he worked it out? Well before I was going to bring it up yesterday because you came over yesterday you're waiting at the gauge and you would have noticed that he was walking alongside me he wasn't like
he he wasn't like pulling
say that before so I
got very excited because I was like but there was a part of me that was already thinking I wonder if like his owner who's looking at like whose house It is like I was already thinking like I wonder how I could like show her what I've taught him I'm like maybe he would misbehave in front of her and that I look like an idiot like maybe I like put a GoPro like on my chest and film the whole thing and but I did try Swan straight he still hates one straight to here's the thing you're not the owner dogs so loyal to their owners and I'm feeding him It doesn't matter I know it's still hungry but it's I felt I know who owns him
its attachment Did you not grow up with a dog yeah but
I didn't Molly I wasn't very good with her so Molly knew that you were the ass on the house obviously feel really bad about Molina she's to have a little bit of Duncan awry
something she was a cocker spaniel okay
but dogs know their own
I just don't understand how
because the feeding beat but ok so
what you're saying so you're not saying owner because I could
know a bit like minus the AIDS my dad would get up every morning you take you do the majority of walking you've had this dog for four days but dogs are a little bit opposite damn they're not my point is it's an old dog new tricks
and I believe that's true The thing is
that he just said hey
I'm the only one that's feeding our brains fading into but all the other shows how petty I get Bray went to feed him you know what and I took it because you want you want the I will lodge yeah
and the intention is that a bit fact up anyway you will happen I always wanted that I always was envious of mile man now got it with mine. I have to like pick up the shit and you have to
Yeah, have to deal with different I feel is it greater investment with your own child really a human being because you aren't. Because it's he's mine? like legit fatality talk show everyone. Thanks for sticking around. And interesting fact about the podcast app, the retention is higher on the shorter episodes, which makes sense because people
have to invest less time So
Josh, if you're listening who commented we've we've got a great piece of meaningful content tomorrow and I actually mean that actually. Yeah, it's great series
amazing woman who's doing some really cool stuff pioneer in
the leadership space. Yeah, and yeah, we've got a and we're driving to morning till tomorrow to to chat to
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