#594 – Lippy Trolls/
- January 31, 2020
We surprise Josh with a mystery Fat Fridays, and chat about how Mr. 97 gets lippy, trolls, the 5 am club, and we chat about the Australian Podcast Ranker for the last time*
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
– Our Fat Fridays order
– Lippy 97
– Being done with mentioning the Australian Podcast Ranker
– Trolls
– Club updates
– The 5 am club
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The Daily Talk Show Episode 594 70. Guys, what's going on? It's fat Fridays it is that time of the week where we celebrate the end of the week with that favourite food, or we try new shit. widget fun shit today. He said, Yeah, I just wanted that bit for snippets.
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I got it. today. I sort of I'm really hungry. And I wake up Sunday or Saturday night into the week working week. I don't need a site working week. I think people get it. It's the week, the way. When does the week start starts on Monday. Okay, so Sunday could be the end of the week. Yeah. But then I was disappointed because I actually discovered quite a was it? Was it apple? I was looking at some kind of thing where they referenced Sunday as a calendar. You're looking at the calendar, something that was like now wasn't the calendar was something incredible. I was like, Fuck, that's really annoying. So sorry to interrupt. Yeah. As you always do. It
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a never ending apology for the brother. Nice to me that that was good as well.
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I'm sorry, I kind of want to. I think you have the smouse of a small marsupial that hasn't eaten in five days. And that's just you, Constance now, you can pick up and you know where the food is come from. Yeah, exactly what it is as soon as you leave their name. Yeah. So remember when we got a surprise Uber order, I think was from Marianne. Yes. Yep. Yeah, yeah. What were you doing nice.
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Yeah, I was just processing is trying to work out what a marsupial was.
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George
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is it an animal with a patch?
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I don't know. I just used the word. Don't ask me. That's what you said. That wasn't it? I said marsupial. Yeah, that's a distinctive characteristic that is that the likeability is one Blinky Bill is a marsupial is a koala. Yeah, koalas have patches cause qualis. Don't do that.
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They're clinging on. I don't know I koalas marsupial's says can you name the top five marsupial's just ranked by say all right.
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So my thinking is I want you to close your eyes and going to put some food in your mouth again to take one button you're gonna tell me exactly
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where it comes from. I want it done as quickly as I close my eyes.
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So
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I reacted no by based on the bag Russell is that crazy?
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Because it's an over bag. You wouldn't.
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Okay, okay, I'm getting his head I'm
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sorry, Marianne sent through Marion sent through some Uber and it was a surprise order. And then we did the same thing. Put it in Josh's mountain. I know you just tried when he like
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the chicks were from so can I just say so basically, I'm, I also sort of can tap into the sounds. And so it's a life paper which would say that it's a wrapped up
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Some sort of wrapped up burger. Either that or just because I don't want you to get it before we even open your mouth. And bite down.
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Oh, this is so confusing. He knows what it is. Yeah, it's a
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Yeah, man. I'm shocked that you got it. It's a tuna melt and it's from Andre Johnson straight there. It's the
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it's my favourite places to eat all the time.
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Your memories quite sheet so you're onto it exactly where Yeah, now. The name of it is don't don't tell me. No, I'm not gonna tell you
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guys let's go to but we should go do this. I'd forgotten about it because this was one of our first shows Cal sosus the name Yeah. Clapping goes quick. Yeah. So peels snout and taste buds head into my bride. I'm so happy with
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such a good and also
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Great protein. We weren't filming when we did the fat Friday and had Cal sews Mr. 97 that was one of the first times that you were on. And we had someone messaged us and say, guys, is my son actually going to be a part of the show? Always. And we had out he had a reservation
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just asking
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is that my son is he said you on all the time?
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But it was it was a message through Instagram. So it was like he can't tell the time. That's the time
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for a bit my message yesterday and i i i send it throws a personal message to Mr. 97. I said, Hey, in future Are you able to send forward me any money related stuff that comes through the heart, the daily talk show in terms of invoices, because I end up I pay them all and so in the future is a real bitch. You think
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actually did I say in the future? Yeah, you did in the future? Yeah. Whenever you ever said in a future way something but so he's may saying can you just can you read it out nice. So you write out the show Hey baby in feature if any payments stuff comes through to hide the daily talk show Can you tag me and x? Don't miss them in case they get pushed down etc. Yeah and then what do you rot? Sure.
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Sorry depends on how you deliver the time I tried to go flavoursome with some babies. This isn't just you, boys, boys Manta. And then I came down I said, because I hadn't seen it. And I knew he written back. I just didn't have time to click it before walking dead. I said, What did you What did you write?
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What do you write in the cut? You know below? he said. Sure. And then I said to say it in the time that you actually were mania and how was it? Fine. Sure.
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Yeah, I like it because he can get so like deep in a chain where people are just getting, but they're not even like I think there's maybe it's the weather but he gets lippy bit you can be short so I, I emailed a
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guy who who's you know, quite high up in the company, and he gets back to you so quickly. And I really appreciate it. He's a busy guy.
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But it's very short, like it's it's just, it's like a relationship with Seth Godin. Yeah, but I think there's an effectiveness to it, but I don't, I'm not going, Oh, my God, he only sent me for Well, you're just happy they responds. That's what you should appreciate. But I think that can be a thing where it sort of shifts and it's like, you know, when you're in deep with an agency, and there's 20 people in there, and people just start it's almost like they get passive, but then you just you're spinning a story because they might not be passive. They might be busy walk into a meeting go, I really need to get back to mice. So I'm going to quickly shooting one and then Yeah, sounds I hit send into
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Yeah,
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yeah, like the there's there's a few of those phrases I guess like in future is one another one is as per my last email is another bit.
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Who wants bacon? Is it just bacon? Who wants tuna? So there's two options. I'd love tuna frog right? Yeah. You said it's your boy. There was only one more tutor you're just
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now I think I feel like Mason's got salmon in the frog seven in the fridge. So in this it's bacon and egg.
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It's awesome. Can you can someone get George, can you? What was the guy's name from GMA again? Good morning, Australia. What was the guy's name? Who was on?
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We've spoken about it. I reckon probably 200 episodes ago. Good morning, Australia. There was the guy he had a headset and he would taste all the food. Haha.
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The music guy can I swap you one piece? One Piece of them? I've actually never had the tuna one. Yeah, it's really good that he was he had a French name, I think. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No taking this
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guy but he was the music guy as well. Now the music guy is john Farnham john for norm and foreman for that. That's not who I'm thinking of service. Can you look up who the floor manager for good morning Australia was?
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Classic shot. Yeah.
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If you had a bad as a chain one, you know yeah, I will get there. Dear Belvedere. Yeah. Yeah, it was good. You could be George. I feel like you could be well positioned to be our Belvedere. Also, I'll show some videos later of what he was like. Yeah, but
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now Yes, I'm the lippy stuff
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last night because I said to him, if you didn't know I did this. I'm an article about the Australian podcast rancour and I said I had a bit of a cold a bit of a meeting yesterday. I said guys was
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pretty casual. I heard it from ups. I had it with sabs and then I had it with you might you know what
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I think it's pretty passive that you didn't invite me to. Well, there were two separate meetings. I decided to pull everyone in separately. Like there's a redundancy happening, and just saying, which the
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not gonna make any more digs at the radio industry, but the, you know, what redundancies? Like, if you've worked in right,
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so I said, I'm not going to talk about the rancour anymore. Yep. I'm sure there's someone at sarey right now sort of
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breathing a sigh of relief that they can have their weekend. Yeah, no. So I said that I said that yesterday. And then last night, I get texts from subs. Yeah, the screen grabs the daily talk shows Instagram story story, where the Instagram story is array. Array gramme of my little message that I wrote on my own personal one about the shrine podcast rank. Yeah, I mean, what you did was used like a screenshot of a text
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something you'd written. I mean, these are usually like someone's having a breakdown and they saying,
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or very important message. But it fits into separately three things. Climate change. Yes. So some kind of activism. Yeah, a breakdown or the Australian podcast, right.
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And so that's where it sort of fit with me. So anyway, I get a message from Steve saying, I thought you weren't talking about it anymore. There's actually, well, yeah, so I said, I sent through the message and in quotation marks, I said, I'm done. Oh, yeah. He said, yeah. He said, like, because I'd said, I'm done. I've one of these five. Right. Yeah. Like serves out what you've said. It's really. So he did that. So he said, So what was the actual message
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that I sent that you said, Yeah, you know, so you quoted that and then I said, I thought, this fat guy like he knows me too. Well, it's annoying. So I said it was actually masturbating Tommy dot, dot, dot.
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And then I did like a glasses like, emoji, like just me just being a nerd. Just a little bacteria and the
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And the glasses emoji. What was I don't know if I did it? I'm sorry. No. So this was the thing and then Sef said, Would you say what more can you ask for in a business partner without eyes had eyes that said, jokes. That was me.
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It was I thought a little bit, cried a little bit more noise. And then I'm hoping that now some of the big independent creators can get in there because I'm just the comments section is what really gets. I mean, this will be the last week we speak of it unless it blows up next week. I did have a look last night at Radio today and the comments in there. People are spineless. Yeah, I didn't like people willing to go onto a message board and not use their name. But like talk about that they work at stations like I know you're trying to protect the job that point but why don't you like it's it's so it's such a bitch move. It is a bitch move. I know we've spoken a lot about pitches and pitching and wait on pitch went up between
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A bit. Sure. Do not pitch. Can you testify to that? George? We don't pitch. Yeah, you don't pitch.
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And so if I seem like an emergency, but yeah, if if I seem like I'm being a bitch, it's out of character. I'm not a bitch.
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Yeah, but I would like to move on. Yeah, but I thought I
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saying the comments, I could understand they trigger me. And so it's like 10 times triggering for you. I'd say, well, the whole thing is this the last thing we'll say for a while.
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But now what I will just say is what what where people end up going is they do personal attacks, or they're like, well, you're not even in the charts. And I don't think I've ever said anything about for one us being in the charts or whether that even plays into this whole thing. My point is that it's it's, I think we're in a better position to talk about it because we release the show seven days. We've done 593 episodes, we plan to be doing this for
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10 years. What are you laughing?
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Well, you've heard it the listeners haven't heard it yet.
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I also I get confused about what will you talk about having on you just regurgitate some of the stuff. What do you think some of the frustrating bits are? Well, I mean, you're getting a little bit I'm not done.
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We're getting triggered and upset last night at the comments that people have been leaving, and that they've missed the point, which is
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that online people, it's a bit of a Trojan side. And the funny thing is, I stopped putting names to these people humble inside, I can go fuck themselves. You're not humble. If you humble get a fucking radio today. You bitch.
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Greg, Greg, Greg, first name, just Greg. I mean, the thing is, where I end up going and then I'm like, and then I end up being like, it's not worth it. I just went through like screen grabbing old examples of life. So I know like
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Guy walk away being like, I know that the things are actually what I've said.
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what people are saying are actually like, it's almost seems like a bit of a Donald Trump thing where it's just like you create, like, if you just go, you're Donald Trump, Donald Trump.
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Like, it looks like Donald Trump is like, on the comments, and they can just say,
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like a lie and say, Oh, no. Well, we've been doing it in for X amount of time back news. Yeah, a bit. But then everyone's like, Okay, well, they're saying that, so I guess that's true. Anyway, yeah. But I think you've received numerous over 10 direct messages from people high up in all different parts of the industry. That support Yeah, what you were saying or can agree. Anyway, time to move on later. Just quickly, lay just wanted to chime in just had a look at the radio today. comments. Totally agree. needlessly personal play the topic, not the man. Thank you. Well, yeah, and this is the thing. That's why I say we need more voices in the
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Conversation please leave a review you can leave off your last time because I know you want to work in radio humble outside
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but ya know so i think there is a
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me but I think also it is it do you say ruffle feathers or Russell feathers ruffled
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I think it's ruffle. Yeah, I think it's
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George knows.
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It's rough. Yeah. So yeah. It's gonna say this and you know there are a bunch of like, people emailing. Like we've got a couple of emails from people who like
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we know we're close with and they're like, maybe not happy with it. But the conversation normally leads to Hey, like, I just need to protect my job here. Yeah, versus the actual what's good for listeners, what's good for the future. Anyway, not to other people. But like think about the Julian Assange. Julian Assange. Is that the top one, a fellow Russia
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Think about these often think about these people and their, their existence day to day, Edward Snowden. Julian Assange, like even Jordan Peters and these people that get so much pushback from how they think or act like they tangler Yeah. And so you're I think you're a unique individual. I mean, look at Julian Assange. I don't think he's handling it. It's pretty hard on him. But I also don't think, like you look at that, that's obviously the very extreme end of the sign. No, and then, then you think about even think about shameless, Michelle manzara giving opinions about stuff every way sad. I couldn't fucking do it. Well, because you Yeah, I think there's no right back to everyone and just be like, okay, let's have it because you go in there with the posture of let's have a discussion. And then it's like, oh, yeah, why you still? Are you still running your business if like, it's just fucking dumb shit. So you can't take it to heart. That's the thing. You if you
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And that's way I think the people that do succeed or sort of doing this daily a pretty sure and okay with who they are and what they stand for. It's not even taking it to heart I think it is about like, being disappointed in people in that that's that's their, their version of communicating.
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Because I do wonder what it would be like, like all other people we can control how they react and that's the whole thing and that's why like getting back to every comment isn't necessarily productive because there are going to be there's like,
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there are a lot of dummies out there.
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And like half of them are fucking on radio tonight.
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JJ is gonna say yeah, we should do it. We should work that out. George Have you got any suggestion? I know one the Indonesian console or been they're really not an excursion when I was a kid. Like it. That's average we have we have an Indonesian troll doing
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What
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is that guy? Yeah So what is the guy's not gonna take
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about what he for a second while we're on the trial so what he is on an Indonesian dude, he was just like you guys are gonna waste 10 years remember that so he's like you guys gonna waste and so then I found the I went to fan Woody's Instagram account and found when what he did why he had day and he's work it's just a random photo of what he wearing a hat. And so I just liked it to be like what he made from the daily talk show Yeah, I think yeah, maybe it was yeah i think was from the Daily Show. So just being like, bro like,
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because the arguing online like there's not much like face to it. But the idea that like, I've now pictured that whenever what he's trolling us, he's wearing that hat. And so anyway, what he's added again, is he Yeah, is he went
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out three days ago. Was he What are you doing? What are you doing? Yeah.
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So interesting. He said, he said
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The why that he's going now is because he thinks have video of us not very impressive what he's back and so what he has sort of can you just write it out it's actually if you write it if you write it in the right inflection it sounds quite positive but if you know what a nasty piece of work
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it's actually kind of
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converted what he I don't know. So just read it read it in a neutral tone and then I'll read it how I think what he said. Good luck on your long term goal, buddy. I hope you get more views in the future. Oh, that's lovely. I mean, if you get more views in the future, haha.
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Buddy Hey,
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buddy, Bro.
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Bro your bitch on the beach. You being what he now
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know what he has a family. And he does and so he better be real careful.
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Nothing. The first time he said I mean there might be a language like
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He's Indonesian encrypted on Google Trends translating to he's actually the nicest guy around maybe we should write back Hey, Woody. Let's just say thanks so much. Can you just write that now? Thank you so much. What I love hard is comment as well just say thanks so much, buddy. Really appreciate that. Just
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Just keep it really low level and then 40s in intuitional like I remember his first comment, which was Yeah, why are you gonna you guys are gonna waste 10 years. Layers said Josh has gone for mafia. It's true. But um, this is Monday mafia I'm not worried. I'm not afraid of the box.
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Can you can you go back to what is early comments? So we can contextualise this I don't seem so crazy. No, I do remember reading it but i i take it with a grain of salt. I know that there is something fun leaning into it or not. You don't think so? Well, just if it's unsettling you like if you are feeling like it's it. I think he's got enough to feel great.
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Just got 1.2 million views on a video video. I don't know. Let me just went on
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what he's wacky hats. Yeah. What's
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What is it?
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Oh, oh no playing the recorder it 2000 views is it what do you plan to record it because I'd fucking love that if he's wearing the hat. Okay, you're doing a shot I know I think that there are lots of videos of him playing the recorder. Titanic song My heart will go on bob
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will get a takedown Yeah, really we don't want to copyright because he would do that. 100% Could you imagine if we just get a bloody takedown notice? It's just bad. Just Sorry guys. Don't use my shit. Oh, anyway, so can you find some of those other comments on?
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What do you think George? Have you ever been trolled in your life? No, but I think that's what you need to do. You need to do more recorded stuff. Yeah.
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How many subscribers is he got? I guess it doesn't matter.
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A few anyway, I think
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It's um, if it's this should affect you like I think it does if this was an effect on
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you think I think I remember being in shape and seeing comments. And it wasn't for me. It was like it was for the show but then it was more directed to the girls candy and Stacy which was just fucking people being bitches like a hater voices like, that's what you see the sort of bias toward like I sort of just blended in ism as the male voice on the show. And so I felt I felt it for them. And I felt it when it was to the show. But I was triggered hard at the start, because I'd never experienced any form of that. But this is my point is why, if you found the cup, well, I can't find it. But if I can't remember what video it was on, that's okay. You should be able to just go into the community section of YouTube and do a command F of his page.
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What did you find where he's smiling, gracious said giving a lot of airtime to someone who trolls. Yeah, right. So the one thing I'll say
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About what he does it is joined by my good I happy Harry.
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Um, so there's two ways of looking at it. Two ways of looking at what he Yeah. Oh, just in general trolls, but let's just have trolls in our name. What he Yeah, what he I like that? Yeah, you're awadhi. That's good. So anybody's radio today, wherever it is, there's two types of thinking. One is ignore,
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which I understand.
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But the second is
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what they're trying to do is they want you to give up. They want you to shut up. They're making you're making them feel uncomfortable with what you're doing. This would be so much better with what he's recorded music behind.
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A great keynote delivered martin luther king over here. So that's what I want you to stop. I did find this comment. Man. You will waste your life. 10 years for this.
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What do you think Joe?
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Man, you waste your life. 10 years for this? Yeah. And then he's like, Oh, well done, because you always think positive. Oh, no, he did follow it up. It won't work but he Trust me. You're chasing the rainbow? Yeah.
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Yeah.
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obviously gonna be a time where we can't. It's not scalable for me to spend a week on something like this. Yeah, I know. And so that's where you get to sort of close off and not have nine and a half hours of screen time in one day. Just Just refreshing. I just see just refreshing the page. Waiting for zand from radio today is quite slow on the
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bike accepting moderating comments.
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I think he only does it because he's got something else. Oh, yeah. I wonder if he takes that stuff in. Yes, I've been neat the amount of negativity. The other the other area I went into I guess this can be just the last time we talked.
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Yeah, definitely enforcing a rule on this
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Something groundbreaking happens what he somehow knocks on our front door we're not talking about what he or this this he knocks on our front door
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I think we talked about and then if he knocks no that's what he's saying if
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you know because he got a cheap flight from Denpasar and he got here but yeah yeah 250 retail airasia yeah
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or what is it and we're not talking
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about a single we finish it was gonna say what is she gone gorilla because I believe that I've got quite the track record when it comes to Aviation Safety
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bit dark
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but hope you families
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know so the the the final bit with oh yeah now thinking of like creating our own industry like I start going into like, you know radio today like what could we create our own industry thing. So radio today doesn't encompass what we do what James
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Kirtland does with pod news is closer like is a great example of showing the industry. Is there a need for having websites or all of these media commentary websites? Is it just a cesspool of what is? Yeah, I think a bit about
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if they weren't there, I'm not I'm not sure if anyone would really miss them or another woman who pop up. Yeah. Anyway.
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So book club. I starts tomorrow. Fuck it. FEHB one is the start of the book club. George key just do a live raid for your for your mom's bookshop, please. Sure I forgot to get the book by the way. After all, that's not a good stuff. Can you even log into your
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portable now? Well, I looked at that one, but it doesn't matter anyway, because we're supporting independent
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lock. The one George is about to get my mom's book shop the book room, environment and Linux is Linux, a sub Linux heads. The heads? Yeah, it's like good. 20 minutes south.
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15 minutes of Byron good, sir. Yeah, there's two shops. There's one there. There's one environment. She wants to sell you got send you guys a book. We have a book club.
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You don't even need to go into too many details. You could just sort of I just Oh, yeah. And then the girls can go and the book
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by the way, so if you go to the book if you haven't gotten the book yet, book yet, and we're going to probably nail this down for him for the second book, but says, What's the book rooms website? The book room@byron.com. And if you click on that, what does that look like?
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So and so then your your mom will make sure that there's stock of the book. Yeah. And she might even do like a 15%. Yes, we can work out the specifics. But yeah, yeah, that's that we need. Yeah, we should do something but my point is
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Next month Yes. Good idea as in March yet, but we'll get the everyone will be getting their books for March and Ferb. So right. Anyway, so the book that this the first book club for February one is you're not listening and says who's up by Kate?
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Murphy? Murphy. Right. And so I'm going to start raining tomorrow. Amazing. And so, on Monday, I'll have an update.
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Not talking too much as you said, on the show. There'll be a little hint to it. I might sort of just say hi or read chapter one. It's really good. And then we can organise some form of virtual get together where we can talk about it. Love it. What is it? What is not invited, not invited. What's your
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how's the adventure club?
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things coming. I mean, you push me into this. I'm not going to talk about it. One thing I will say though, is I'm fucking really tired this week. I've been trying
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After me brother came in here and virtue that he was getting up at 5am I do that. I've done it since not Monday because Monday was a public holiday Tuesday. I did it on Tuesday till today and I've been going for a run, is it worth it? It's for the productivity that you have in the morning. It's really fun I'm before seven, before seven like video productive before seven made like there's so much time you get up and you went for a run and then come back and meditate or then clean downstairs the kitchen, but this morning I went did the spa chemicals and shit came back in put the eggs on, made the smoothies made the toast well before bowtie, Evan Walker went upstairs claimed that he had like the shit that you don't want to do at night. And the time that you have in the morning, it is worth it. But the funny thing is there is mornings where I was like, my head was super scattered early and I was like I felt anxious and shit in so and then
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The exercise and stuff helps and so it's like this morning I came out off the back of it from not feeling great had three beers last night and we're just at home three beers at home I didn't Aaron did I'd go ahead and just smash the mouth was Amy drinking as well. Now she was she was upstairs But anyway, so I woke up this morning but you didn't see your emails getting sent off. We got notification It was a few slurs and
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that's all right.
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But this morning, I felt amazing. I just find it so interesting how like one day you can feel anxious, not much changes the next day you can feel it. True isn't that's like the wave of like, your emotions inside like just across a five day period.
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It's It's so interesting. Like it makes you think about other people's realities so that when you're feeling really good, you can be like, Oh, you know what? Like, we're not all in sync. Yeah, so some people could be having their bad day.
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When you're having a great day, that's a good consideration. Like I think some people have periods of stability, but I think the majority of riding it ride dips, you know? And so, but yeah, I definitely felt so much better often Mike like running up a hill. I was like, I can just like pump the blood. I felt good. Felt refreshed. Anyway, it's better. I am tired by 4pm. I think you said that. You said I think you said it's like, get up at five. And like, is the productivity benefits worth that if you it gets to two o'clock and you fact Yeah, because I don't think I I'm not in a negative spiral that I'd rather start the day with a positive like, yes, shifting the internal state. So I'm going to bed early. No, I mean, I 10 last night off, but yeah, it feels like you know when you're a bit sick, you're hot. Yeah, it's that's also something to praise. Yeah, these hot anyway, it's a it's an interesting one. I'll keep going and I'll give you an update on that.
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recommendation from me. The I think I mentioned it to you Tim Ferriss and Kevin Rose. Yes. Back in like the mid 2000s. They had a show that they would do on the odd occasion It was called the random show. Anyway, I was what I would body, right it would it would give up
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is what he has until he's projecting
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anyway.
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But no, it's very good so that they would do it like once a year or whatever. And at the beginning, it was very much like I recommend this green tea or this thing I was I much like random shit from watching and listening to their show. But Tim Ferriss obviously has his own podcast. He wrote a four hour workweek for our body for our chef. Yeah. tribe of mentors, although all those books,
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and Kevin Rose founded digg.com. He works at Google Ventures he worked at, he was the CEO at Hadoop.
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Ke the watch company. Anyway, he's done a bunch of stuff, their latest episode where they're just chatting.
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It's awesome because they're basically like they're both in their 40s now, they
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have come rich. Yeah, well, they've said they've come such a long way in regards to like, emotional, like being aware of sort of their emotional states and even saying Tim Ferriss, he's, um he's a sensitive guy, Tim, he's Yeah, yeah. And he was struggling with mental health but he was saying for the longest time it took like, to he was this age before he actually accepted that he saw being sensitive as a downfall for some or you know, like a negative cultural
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programming like he, I think that is, I definitely feel that and it's something to establish.
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Like, I'd never thought I was an anxious person, or I had anxiety. I don't have it's a very
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Really like some, but I acknowledge more now that I actually feel times because then it's like, because then I treat people like shit when I'm anxious and I'm not identifying that I'm feeling anxious because then I just fucking am a reactive idiot. Yeah, and projecting all of that and a lot with you know, especially partners and even you guys it's you can tell when that should happen and it's only until you like fuck that's mindfulness thinking about state and so it's awesome yeah I'm gonna watch that we shouldn't actually can you record Can you put the link and send it to woody yeah
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it's great episode let us know what he should get into there's also a great book nonviolent communication in all seriousness the body to review YouTube stuff in actually email us through when we read on the show. I think he's I guess it he's nonviolent communication like that. Last thing was like, Yeah, good job, buddy. Hope you get more views. guys just bought the book by the way. Which, which one? Do not okay, no.
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