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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 421. What's

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happening guys, weekend bands. And we have three day deals mom on the show today. Yes, I was my mama.

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Welcome Michelle at Oroville, Hawaii, everybody how are you doing? We're very good. I mean deal is an absolute taskmaster because it is currently after midnight in Toronto and he is somehow jolted you up to

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do it.

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Well, I wanted to see the reaction when you open another glitter bomb.

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Okay, I'll tell you what, I don't know if he's learned off humour. But he's he's quite good when it comes to the PR behind some kind of launch or something or a reveal because we got a delivery last week. He's what I know. It's big. It came from Canada, and it cost 150 bucks or something hundred and

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$75.

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Anyone tell us tonight but he said I'm getting mom on the show this weekend.

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Is the federal police involved.

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They probably looked at it. Okay. This is exciting.

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Yeah. That's an open like your last package where they had to go through the coffee and the peanut butter to sort through all that at customs.

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That's why the coffee that I gave you guys was all vacuum sealed.

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Baby good. I can't package Yeah, that's annoying. Anyway, this package hasn't been open. Michelle, and we're just going to pull it up right now.

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It's Wow, it's it's very well,

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so it's very well wrapped. It does feel like somebody I would dress on. Don't want to show that to everyone. That's fine.

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comments.

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And straight guys. Yeah.

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So yeah, it's it's up it is your dress. I'm sorry about that.

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They want to send me exactly.

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Just Michelle before we open it. I just need to tell you something about his son. He's been nicking my food from around the office.

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Home to steal the last cookie that you met that that's made and Oh, I didn't do it. He'll put milk back in the fridge.

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Empty.

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What's with the there is there's a certain type of person that as the last cookie is definitely aligned with the person who has the last bit of milk as well. But baby needs these cookies and milk. You

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know, I'll go out of my way to finish a bag of milk bag and I'll put and I'll put it back. Yeah, we got we have bags of milk back in Canada. That's like a legit thing. It's a it's a plastic bag.

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Bag of milk.

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Yeah, like there's a plastic bag and there's milk in it.

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Is it four litres of milk?

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What do you actually so do you buy this from the place that you get you to market from

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from the superstore?

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Again, sort of we were cat like the milk comes from anyway so it's like it's almost like a closer to the form of a nada.

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Pretty much it's it's it's got that

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how do you pour it out then is it you

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know, put it in a in a carton? Like a jug thing you snip off and and just pour it out?

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All right, let's not get back there. Michelle, can you reveal anything that won't give it away but just to build it up? Because I want to see if he got what he's mama gave him in terms of

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let's just say a lot of work. And time and effort went into the to these items. Michelle

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was better in the box?

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Yeah. Uh,

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Dylan came up with this idea. Yeah. I ran with this idea

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and made it into reality

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and made it into reality. I think I made it a little bit better. And then there's some stuff in there from his sister that for him, but this was nothing. Nothing

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is amazing. She's ready. read my mind. I was thinking about candy and anyone get excited. Should I open it?

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Yeah, this is this has been in the works since before I cut my thumb open.

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No, no, no. June 20.

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Okay, so a week after I cut my thumb that this would keep you honest. So Tommy is opening it right now. Not now, don't you? So

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just be careful. Now I got this. I got this.

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So it's a very big white central style bag and there's a bag within the bag. Four litres of milk. It's all

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look at this. Okay, so I'm saying backpack. This is fancy. Yeah. How do you want vacuum bag? look nice. How do we on vacuum it

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across the top?

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Yeah, the blue.

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Pull it open like,

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like a like a normal bag. Okay, and

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so what I'm saying is it looks like there's some form of wool maybe that's the vibe that I'm getting.

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I'm saying balls blue ball. blue balls.

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Good on JI Here

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we go in the colours. Oh,

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here we go. Forget your daily talk show. hoodies.

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Look at this. This is amazing.

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The Daily talk show a hand knitted baby.

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This is Michelle, did you make these?

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I did. And there's four of them that have matching palm palm. Yeah. For you Tommy Dillon and Mason

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97.

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And then there's five that have all different pom poms.

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That's amazing.

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is for Bry Oh, thank you.

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That's so cute.

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That one's for Amy.

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Gemma is your queen gronk

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she gets her own set.

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Hot and matching scarf and there's also on the scarf there is the daily talk show. Oh,

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this so much work has got I'm just putting my headphones off so I can put this on. This is the most amount of the daily talk show merge we've had in one sitting. And I don't think it's even two extra.

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Yeah, this is perfect for the footy. That's what I was thinking. Yeah, this is gonna be this is great. The initial

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idea of it was like I've seen I've seen all these people coming out of the footy games wearing all these hats and like all that I really like that.

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How do I look? 97 days.

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Unbelievable show.

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How many?

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How many hours did you put into this?

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New listening. I started these on June 22. And all the hats, the stitching, everything there that came in the parcel took me about a month.

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Wow, this is amazing. Thank you so much like so what's the like? The design, like nailing the love working out how you're going to design it getting the TDTS in it? What did it actually how does it work?

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The knitting was easy. I had a pattern and just changed the pattern to incorporate the colours. Yeah. Learning how to embroider the letters on to the it's like an over stitch. That the tricky part because I'd never done that before.

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Thank you. So let me

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just say they're not each year either. Yeah, baby's always

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perfect. Quality Canadian. Well.

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What's, what's amazing. I'm just blown away. you've nailed the colour to like you've almost matched our pants.

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I feel like I feel like deal was being absolutely riding Michelle on making sure that

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we have a 45 minute chat. Really?

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Yeah, yeah.

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And I was going on FaceTime and Walmart. Okay, here's the blue. here's the here's the end for Gemma set. It was the same thing. Here's a pink. Here's a great. Here's another paint. Here's another grey.

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And I'm like, No, no, no, no. Pick another one. Pick another one on this side. Nice. They got it's the perfect time because Melbourne this weekend. horrendous weather so windy. And so this is the perfect accompaniment. Is that what any side compliment? Okay?

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Come I shouldn't have added that.

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Thank you so much. Michelle was so generous. And it's, it's great because it's something that we can like, constantly. Like, I feel like this is my look. It's a bit of a peacock

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peacock, as well. So I look right. It's a bit of a flex,

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go. Sorry, go. Dylan just wanted, like I saw the colours of the sign Dylan like, like the colours of the sign and just wanted to put that into the hat. Yeah. So I had to tweak the pattern a bit to be able to fit the letters of the letters across. But I was really pleased with how they turned out. You nailed it.

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absolutely nailed it and saying is we might not have you on again because I don't want to get you up. I mean, at 12 I am so proud of you, Sean. He's been amazing with us. He's got another couple of weeks to go. What I love about your son is that I can trust him. It's

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not unless it's unless there's Dorito Definitely not.

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But no, I try. I try rusty Minaya. That's what I look for in somebody that I that I don't have to second guess I never second guessed Dylan.

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Thank you. I appreciate that. Oh,

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yeah. He's, he's, he's a good kid. You know, I mean, it was a big step for us to not let him come. Because he is an adult, but just to say, Okay, yeah, you're flying halfway across the world to do this summer internship. And he's done it. Like he's, you know, and we're, Barry and I are just so grateful for what the three of you and your families have done for him. It's, you know, like you, making sure he's fed and making sure he's got good housing and you know, the coffee maker doesn't break again. What do you

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what do you say? What do you say to your friends when they say what's still up to? What What do you actually have you have you pitch it to that a curious to?

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I say, Oh, he's in Australia is doing an internship, what? He said, doing an internship for the big media company, I said, Google, I said, listen to their podcast.

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Well, I think I think we'll have to definitely send to him with a bunch of stickers because I was saying, oh,

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I'll make the stickers by hand.

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Now, I was saying to deal I think that

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we I think we there's an opportunity to grow our Canadian audience.

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I mean, Dylan's come over here, and people back home probably think he's in some reality show because he didn't put out content as such before now and now you've been in more podcasts than you can imagine. And videos have been made about you being rushed to hospital when

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it's bizarre.

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Have you had a favourite episode? Michelle? Oh,

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cuz you watch it on the TV, right?

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CI Yeah, I prefer watching the YouTube cry. listening to it is ok, but I prefer seeing the engagement between you and the guests. You get more out of it watching it than you do. Just listening it Yeah.

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I don't know if I have a favourite one. I love

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the short ones like he did with the fire trucks. Yeah. waffles, and how you made the shorter video. Those were really fun. And then I showed them to his little sister Ali. When I know the content is

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safe.

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I try and remove all scaring out of it. Yeah, we actually did

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that in the highlights video. I don't think there's a single swear word I just

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did in this one that I'm making now. Good. It's one about Mr. 90 seconds here. That will be here.

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Yeah, we're doing all that. And that by the way. Yeah. What do you think? What do you think of missing it? 710

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Oh, I love it. I think

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yeah, maybe maybe you could do that the first way back home.

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Yeah, I rather do it here.

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bleached it

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I love it. I think it turned out really good. Yeah.

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I colour my hair for me it's no big deal. I shaved my hair off a raise money for cancer. I shaved it off completely. It's hair it's gonna grow back. Yeah,

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unless you may

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drawing back

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97 was definitely took one for the

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first time that he'd ever had. He's had bleach and it was burning a little bit for him. Yeah, just said

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teaching is it Yeah, bleaching is harsher than just colouring Yeah. No, it looks really really good girl. Thank

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you Michelle. We really do appreciate this we're going to be wearing them I actually lost my baby so I've now got a new

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did notice that actually

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has been for past month stealing everyone's pain

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with all we can always also say hi to Barry for us, too. But thank you so much Michelle for staying up late. And also for all the the hours spent in doing this. This is like this is ridiculously cool. Yeah, we've got we've got

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we've got five more so what's what's the deal with what should we do with those?

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Well, asked me asked me to think of a way that you can give them out to listeners. I still am up I just knew that because Gemma is your clean gronk she did her own special set.

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Yeah, I think there's definitely I think it's differently one for paid he said yeah, he I think he definitely

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has one but I will stop you there. I don't want you to get any other problems. He's

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happy with pain. He gets one and then

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we work that because we cannot say someone Good

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Good. Good pickup. Thanks so much the show. Enjoy your evening.

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And Tommy Yes. Did Dylan show you the the picture of him catching a real fish?

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No.

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Oh yeah, the fish that you had in that photo was kind of small.

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You didn't realise I didn't catch it.

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You do realise Yeah, no, that's exactly my point. I bought it

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all cuz Dylan had a fish bought for him.

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No cuz I catch

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on I man I've been fishing

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so take it take that. That's an Atlantic caught

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up Hold it up. So good luck. That's a big one. Okay,

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that's that's a huge fish

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that's it that's massive caught a shock for so I'm not going

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to try to sound bad right? Why I made a flat head which is unheard of.

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Is that is that a Hammerhead

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now Flathead. It's a fish that's just invaded Dubai here. And it's like it's spawning back and you can eat it, but it's just annoying. They like to see cop. They're everywhere. But I have caught that anyway. Well, I break coasting right accidentally, but yeah, you know, anyway,

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good flex.

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Thanks, Michelle. Have a nice sleep.

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I wish you know. I wish I would have done more. Like I when Dylan went over. I sent the hat in the mitts for Bodie. Yeah, he loves them. I didn't have time to do something like this before Dylan left. So I want that. That was my goal. Originally I said to Dylan I said, Well, what if you took hats over for everybody? No, no. I do that. And then this came about so I was so pleased to be able to do it and was really happy with how they turned out. I was I don't know if they should go in the wash because

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it's all good. The bacteria will break down even with the

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name on mine that might break Yeah,

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yeah. Baby so I'm putting the wash.

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Wash it by hand. Yeah.

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Yeah, because they're not machine made compounds and they're not really really tight very quickly. Are you doing anything for organised August?

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I always do stuff for tonight.

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I cleaned my on my yarn up today. I'm working

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on my yarn down the basement, got rid of books underneath the table. I'm a little bit of Marie Kondo declutter and

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organise all this. Thanks so much, Michelle. Thank you.

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Thank you guys. Have a great day. Good day. I got Yeah,

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absolutely. Love you, mom. I love you, Mama. See?

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you later. See you soon. Bye. Panic.

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This is amazing. This is f8 Matt, you very good at keeping secrets. Yeah,

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I really really really wanted to spell it but it's just gonna be too good.

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What else? EKB from us? Let's be honest. I mean, you stole my chips, you

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and the else.

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I'm actually not 21 I'm

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just a bit weird.

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Coming up to new the end of your time with us. But we were talking on Friday. About 40 has been a bit of a theme. Yeah.

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What's what's the latest with away?

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I will say I got a message from Andy white fix. Oh, and he said I'll send you gronk some scarves are grey. So then we're beanies and we'll have some fixed Oh, scarves. This is perfect. It'd be perfect if you ever take the fixer scarf. Hi,

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I love Gemma pointed out your

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Yeah, I just saw. I mean, you think you got your boys behind you. You make supporting but then you jump into your own fucking Instagram feed. And then you look in your Instagram messages and you see the bloody hatred

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of st To be clear, you said What did he say? I

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right. Go co sons was JWS Yeah.

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fact that i fact that that Greater Western Sydney and Gold Coast sons giants are the greatest and Sydney and then the GoPros sons.

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Well, I think the great thing is that you you approach it with confidence. But yeah, you're like, which is all that matters.

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It's a funny way of life.

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The cut the confidence approach. What else have we got Seth Godin put out a great. Did you guys read it because I sent it to the slack. Cast? Why did you write it? So I just want to I think it's so great, because it sometimes feels like we going that way. You know, but it's because we so in the process you can feel like I think that's what dreamers do. Rather than thinking ahead, thinking about the possibilities and they don't get stuck in the process of being he looks so good.

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I look You look great.

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You look great. You guys look great.

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guy too, baby.

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You have you have the pump.

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Yeah, you got the pom pom on the

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behind anyway. You're not always wearing headphones. I know. Anyway, I think you can. When you in the process you can't use sometimes lose track of how far you've come. And that's why I think reflecting sometimes like the the 400th episode, we did the throwback to all of and it's amazing. Looking back. I mean, Josh watched it, you could repeat every moment of that you watched it so many times. Seth Godin, if you haven't subscribed to his blog, do it. He sent one last week, Friday strikes. That was the name of it.

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Which funnily enough, like I only liked our had mentioned straight to the app only. Yeah, I got awakened a bit ago. It was before this and I was talking about strikes,

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you think says listening maybe. I mean, he's probably listening to save you. He's books been rewritten.

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I'd be anticipating. How's your book going down?

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It's actually in the last. So the all the interior content got approved. And now they're just approving the front in the back cover. So

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awaken to say we're going to get a signing before you go.

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Yeah, it should be done by Monday, Monday at noon,

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Monday at noon, and then you'll be I'll be printed.

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Yeah. So the way it works is it's a print on demand service. So I can order get the primes ready, I can order 10 copies, and they'll only print 10 copies so that way, there's no kind of waste of stuff like waste of material

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we want. Copy 001 ETFs studio, we want the first copy ever to be in existence and will frame it hundred percent overrated first. Yeah, yeah, the name of it strikes. Today's the 11 year in a row of daily posts on this blog, nearly 5 million words since my first post 20 years ago. And I haven't missed a day, given some timezone wiggle room. Since 2008. streaks are their own reward, streaks create internal pressure that keeps streaks going. strikes require commitment at first. But then that commitment turns into a practice and the practice into a habit habits are much easier to maintain than commitments. I'm pretty sure that the blog would still have an impact if I missed a day here or there. But once a commitment is made to a strike, the question shifts from Should I blog tomorrow? To

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what do you say? Should I blog tomorrow? Should I yeah, always blog?

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Should I always bought my husband? Should I blog tomorrow? To what will tomorrow's blog say? And once you've made that shift, it's 100 times easier to find a voice. Find that voice that you're looking for. I didn't set out to have TQ this particular streak. I don't remember the day the blog went from most days to every day. But I'm glad to have gone on this journey. Thanks for being a part of it. It's so fucking true. Yeah. You don't know what you'll learn. But it's I think the streaks do teach you like I just there's a we've still got vision of your mom there. And I just thought she was looking at me. But um, yeah, I mean, what have you learned from showing up deal from what we've been doing the daily thing? Because I think your external, you know, person that's sort of come into the fold. And yeah, we've just Josh and I've had a fucking heads down. Yeah. And then you've put your head down?

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Yeah, pretty much. I mean, it was it was interesting, especially coming into this space as a listener in the very beginning. I would, I had started as a fan, I was like, Oh, yeah, I like this, and then came into it. So I got, I'm a part of it. Now. It was a bit of a weird mental transition. But I'm like, there's, there's so much that I've learned, it's like, it doesn't have to be hard to continue doing something. like doing this pod. It is hard. There's a lot of challenges involved with it. But you don't have to make it an inconvenience. It's like you guys like doing this? Yeah. You know,

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doing the reframing you things does it is

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yeah, it's been reframing doing something daily, I used to think of doing something daily as, like a chore that I had to get through or like, a box to check off and then once it was done, it was done. And I wouldn't really look at it until I go back to it. But it's allowing, allowing it to become more of a rhythm instead of necessarily a step one, step two, step three, step four, Step five, etc, etc. So it's not something it's it's a recurring rhythm.

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Talking about recurring rhythm.

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couple of nights ago, you came over for for dinner. And we are good. We're walking to our words. And at the wall words, like my knees. My knees are really So yeah, I felt like in that moment, I was being primed for something. I was like oh yeah, and then you sit down I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do all this running.

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Well, I haven't opted out of organised August for running the 200 kilometres

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but you've had that you've had what would you describe it in the injury? Um,

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I would I would say so because I went I went to do a 10 k the other day at a slower pace at a slower slower pace 10 K and I got halfway into it and my left knee just didn't feel right like it when I was going oh, okay Josh

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much you run outside like I'm what like I'm the straightaway I went to like fact you're gonna dislocate you fucking me.

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I stopped the run and I went

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back home and I didn't do the rest of the 10 k because if it's hurting now it's only going to get worse if I run another five kilometre I mean the one thing you haven't learned from this podcast is when Josh tried to walk a million steps in a row any cave for days right? Yeah. Which is a similar thing. I mean, it's

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going people die on Mount Everest.

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You going from no podcaster 707 a week it would fuck you up five was a massive failure I don't think I reckon we would have would have crumbled if we tried to do seven from five we just survived and then got through well that's a good sign. Five we just survived and then he got to the nice place. We're like, we were comfortable. Now

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we got that last

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five we were just alive. But no, I'm still going to show what are you doing instead?

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Starting to get into doing morning pages just so that way not completely opting out of the whole organised and running

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10 K's to

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Well, I'm still how many kinds have you done so far?

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64 it was

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actually not bad. 64 bad. It's almost

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Yeah. 64 It's

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no sound like not bad. That's a good effort. Yeah, it's nearly it's basically base over a quarter. It's basically a third.

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You could What are you saying? You cannot run lucky you could do? Like 40 calories a day or

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I might just do three K's in the morning three K's at night.

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What did you just do? Three and then a long one at the end? Yeah. At the end Yeah.

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Your ideas? Yeah, good can do right. Some of them are not definitely not plays.

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Well, the thing is I I am very

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inside baseball like talking about monetization. I

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never heard anyone say inside baseball as much as you but then I started hearing other people say inside baseball. What do you mean?

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I don't really get what you mean. But

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I actually had a great conversation yesterday with Mr. Nice Evan and I were filming. Lovely Lady at her house. Yeah, she had baseball on she lot of banter was baseball. A lot of table banter. Yeah. What did you say? like one of those moments where I try and make it about me and I know her to be fair, her son. His name's john. Yeah, he plays in Japan. six foot nine is how told Johnny's?

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Yeah,

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he does. He pitches. But anyway, I was getting right into it. They just had the baseball on at home. Can you see why I would get into the whole baseball at home on the TV.

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I could say Yeah.

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What is it? Uh,

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I don't know. I feel like you'd enjoy just watching all the teams just like track along and just watching the schools and when the crowd goes mental with like home runs and stuff.

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Three day deal. When he came over to my place. We ended up watching the most horrendous injuries from hockey.

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Yeah, guys, because remember, Josh was like, Oh, yeah, I reckon I could play hockey. I'm like no. Other up. Oh,

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so he showed me this footage of

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a guy

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who was skating on and the guy another guy sort of slipped up, and he's blind, his slice the guy's throat. Lift, but you just say that was blurting out very ridiculous. And so I did live. That's where you would show me like Freddy to kept showing me videos. And then when I'm finished, he goes, and he lived in the show the puppy videos which puppy Puppy was

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the Jake from the other day. When you kill your first puppy, the next one? is in reference to him being hard. He's never killed a puppy. I just say that. One of the ideas I got, I watched the big hack or the great hack. Yeah, the Cambridge Yeah. It's amazing. It's amazing. But it's just interesting. The company that was behind the Trump campaign, Brexit and I helped gather all the data. And I have data scientists that workout audience and basically personality profiling for the candidates or that sorry, the people that would be most likely to vote for someone like Trump. And so then they they sort of reverse engineer and and then Facebook target. advertising. You know, it's amazing. Your idea, no, no, but was inspired by that around us talking about how to build an audience and what that looks like. And I think there's a lot of bullshit spun around building audiences. And I know I've done a lot of reading on it. And nothing like when you starting to slowly do it. It doesn't really make sense what I've read, because there's a part of it that is nonsensical. It's hard to understand

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ratings odd.

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Yeah, that's, I wasn't even talking about audience. But there is something when we start to gather and one of the things we do behind the scenes here is sort of, we log all of the interactions and communication that we have in our spreadsheets and stuff, which, you know, people who interact with the show we send them staff people who win this, it's like, we're building personas. Yeah. And for creative businesses, there's, they're not tangible in most cases, they're ideas that a flying through your head that you kind of might make a video on then. But there's nothing rock solid, you know, it's not a break. mortars business is not a Industrial Age business where you've got, you know, your big workshop where it things that you see it moving, and that's when it's actually being you're being paid would be fun. That would be Yeah, yeah, my mates, Dad has a factory that, you know, has lots of yarn, and they do like tags for boots and shit that, you know, you put your boot up, like, they sell all these tangible products, and I make a lot of money doing it. And but it's just heavy labour. And lot, you know, it's amazing, though. But you see, when the machines are on, they're making cash. Whereas

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anyway, but

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yeah, yeah, your hands got softer at that point. But I was thinking around people trying to build audience and there's, there's people that are data scientists. And there's degrees now that you can do in data science. And one of my ideas was to contact a university, whatever, Bry Monash University that have students that are wanting to become data scientists, and that's what they're studying, and bringing them into the daily talk show the headquarters here, and speaking with them. And this is something so far outside of what you'd think normally about how you go about building an audience, and getting a perspective, from what we're kind of understanding, because I think there's something to add there. This is how they successfully won these campaigns. The the woman in the, in the documentary, this is what she did. And so it's the idea is to reach out to a university and say that there's a project where we want to understand the data that way getting, you know, there's How is Facebook have

32:40
1000 data points, on,

32:44
on human on human? Yeah. And so it seems like,

32:48
I feel like they probably have even more than that for a minute,

32:50
I know, enough to build out a profile of the person that they want for their audience, I think about the amount of interactions that

32:57
we have on social media, even if it's, yeah, even from what phone you're using to the operating system to the times of day that you're going on, to who your messaging when,

33:07
and this is where I went down the rabbit hole of thinking about, you know, I I ingesting every episodes, audio, and transcribing it and looking through it and like the the profiling that they could do on you and I Josh, like seeing the words and the things and like, there is something that I can't even fathom about how to do, yeah, that can be done. And that's why I was inspired by watching this documentary, just punch out a bunch of ideas around how we could bring a data scientist in to start to understand more of our audience. And when insight. I mean, there's probably like, Instagram should give you tools and analytics, but it's, it's not to the degree that some of these programmes can these data scientists can ingest and actually understand what it all means. Yeah,

33:56
there's a website, I think it's called monkey learn. Can you look at that missing I seven, but it's like, monkey, monkey learn. It's like a computer.

34:04
Computer learning analysis,

34:05
machine learning,

34:07
machine learning machine learning. Yeah. And so you can, it's actually like available now. So you could go in and put in data, and start getting that sort of thing. So we could do something where it's like, we could do something interesting around connecting episodes, and then working out when we receive email, or when we receive Instagram, comments, and then work out what words most resonate with people. So what words are in the episodes that get the most amount of people to write to us?

34:41
It's so fascinating, because I mean, there is YouTubers that play to the algorithm. So they're piggybacking minimalism, or you know, things like this, like, you know, Matt, Matt Davis has landed on something pretty amazingly, you know, he made the documentary so he was really into it. But then you see the other people sort of tapping into the, the niche that he's gathering the most momentum and then coming out with like, what your video that was digital minimalism. I mean, you're, you're a guy, Josh, that has a lot of thought we learned yesterday, my mom's episode, you thought about this bully who bullied you and why he's doing it. It's probably because he's mom passed away. Like you. There's a lot of thought into it. Yeah. And you put you put a lot of thought in to that. And it worked. It made sense. And so didn't work with bullying. But yeah, I didn't work the bully but you don't digital middle, minimalism video to how many views 75.

35:38
But it was excellent. 40? Because you saw that one.

35:42
Now you went in there. But I think that was it. That's why

35:46
now the

35:47
but then even What about? So the problem I have with playing to the algorithm is that you lose? Not you lose authenticity in the content, because you're doing it for something else. But I do think if creation isn't a problem for us, because we're doing it daily, I think when you can start to understand, because I think people would start off trying to go Let me get some data science and let me understand this and let me let me do it before I start. But then when you start doing something you can gather there's more information coming at you anyway. But then it's about how to interpret it so if we didn't know that people liked x y&z would you speak to it more? Yeah, I don't know. But and and if it my pushback wouldn't be know if I didn't feel like I wanted to. Because Don't tell me what to do

36:33
in two years will be robots. Yeah. The know there's something interesting with monkey land. And I saw a while ago where it's like, they've got all these case studies. 97 you'd like this case studies of how you can use it. And one of the ways is you can there's a service. What's it called? Help a journalist, help a reporter out? HIRO helper reporter out. And it's, it's for Yeah, that's right. Alright. I cross the road. The No, but seriously, there's like a little fucking character. Now I welcome. No, but basically, what you do is you can journalists can put up storeys that they're writing about or requests. So for instance, if they're writing a storey about podcasting, they can say, we need podcasters to be quoted in this article, yeah, then basically, that's how you can get media coverage and things like that. But one of the cool things is you can combine it with monkey alone. And you can feed it an RSS feed of all of these different help a reporter out, like, requests, and you can go through a yes, no, yes, no, yes. No, you're like 100 of them. And then monkey land can then say yes, to which ones you think you should do it. And then you can automatically have it, send your details to them. So you can automate the selection, and then automate the email that goes to the journalist. What sick?

38:07
Yeah, if you look, it's, it's mind blowing. Now I'm just looking through some of their other use cases. There's, there's one that's sort of like a curated, publish. So it's in a similar vein, and they just fade in a bunch of RSS feeds of articles. And then it goes through and selects, which which content they want to actually publish on the website. And then there's a bunch of like support ones, it filters through like emails and replies, to figure out like, what are the pain points in products and solutions and stuff like that?

38:41
We've got emails while you bring up the emails,

38:46
Shannon DM distance said, what's happening with the testosterone test? Okay, so

38:55
I get straight on to the text message with Craig hapa. Who's thought he's got a lot of people a lot of testosterone, he's got a lot of testosterone. He's got a lot of scientists, friends, doctors, you know, he knows people well connected. I said, serious question. We want to see who has the most testosterone in the office? Where would you get? Where would one get their bloods done to find out something like this? And he said, definitely, you know, he said, this is just a GP and now send you to put theology lab to get tests done, and he or she will interpret the results so we're gonna have to pay for deals because he doesn't

39:30
care. So what does that work just wondering will get a free on the medicare

39:34
medicare

39:34
number as you will get it free on the

39:37
boss will be able to go to the JJ they

39:39
sought out my Medicare card,

39:42
organise all this, get it done. Get that all get mom to text, which I did for 10 years, but get it done.

39:47
And so what is it what is it going to cost? 450 bucks 80 bucks

39:51
to go to the GP? And then another hundred and 20

39:55
shaky he just comes in with me with my JBI By the way, if I can give him a referral to

40:00
Yeah, might as well try.

40:02
But there has to be the claim process happens at both ends. So happens at the GPS office as a potential client when you should go with him. Maybe Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I mean, once a while. I mean, we'll pay for it. We've promised it just fucking pay for it.

40:15
And so what's the deal from here? So we need to

40:17
again next week GP go see whoever we should

40:21
get everything. How about like, Who do you think's got the highest iron level? Hey, we're just

40:25
going big flex.

40:27
Maybe I going for cholesterol. Maybe I go in first just to do the initial because we can't do it all at once. So we can I can just go down so I'll be like, speak to them. Can you that? testosterone? Can we? What can we try and get a doctor who listens to the show? Even better? Why don't we try that if you're a doctor?

40:44
Yeah. Or you know a doctor, you're very close to a doctor. Yes. Who can help us do this all in one fucking go. That'd be amazing.

40:51
Maybe even a Kashi? I mean, how about just a freebie?

40:56
Pretty good.

40:57
I mean, yeah, we'll pay will give

40:58
it How about we give them one of the things

41:03
that I respect

41:04
that everybody giving us a fucking freebie there a doctor,

41:06
if you went to the actual show, our doctor and you liked the show, then I'd be inclined, but I'm just saying. But I'm just saying not to somebody who just hasn't made who's never heard never listened to the got around the boys. So how we I think that's a great idea. I think we can make this happen. Shannon, thanks for the little bit of prompting. We will get this done

41:28
our emails. What else is happening? But we got and we got an email from AN this is this is the deal. Yeah. Three day deals final weeks in Australia. In wants to know if you can make it to a family BBQ. On Sunday afternoon. I'll be there. I'll go

41:46
have you. Yeah, no, I've emailed them. Or

41:49
you know, I actually put it out there. I said, Yeah. Deal.

41:55
Yeah. pimpin deal. I'll do it.

41:57
That's so nice. This is Ian Who? Amen. Yeah. Writing a little card to take to him. Okay. Yes. First. Yeah.

42:07
Yeah, that one your ideas for today?

42:09
Yeah, definitely. I just had it. And I'll use one of the cell over deliver.

42:14
Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Now you can have to include some favourites or something if you actually go into people's houses in Australia should always bring fire

42:19
Yeah, the thing

42:21
to bring when you're not taught to bring a thing? Yeah. That's that's what it is the thing to bring when you're told not to bring anything? Yeah. Anyway, deal. This is this is great. But if you come early, you might be able to hit the mountain bike tracks. We're going to say in this

42:36
but we're going early. Just be careful. See ya da da.

42:39
Yeah, I'll be fine.

42:41
Well, he's not with us. So it doesn't count. Yeah,

42:42
yeah. He's off supervision. Exactly. I would still prefer him to be okay.

42:47
I'd like him to live. Yeah, to be honest. Ideally.

He came with GIFs. And

42:52
yeah, but who gets turned off?

43:00
him good. The baby now now. I can see your baby. You should wear that

43:05
you're going to

43:08
find it was there. I feel like those other other email that make that up.

43:12
We've got a nostalgic storey. Oh, yes. fusing is fat. So

43:16
missing 97. Yeah, yeah. Well, before your time, well, before your time deal, probably before you're born. When Josh and I were doing this podcast, we got this we'd email Episode

43:27
35 TI was

43:29
born. Have you heard this episode, though? Yeah. Should we go to a bizarre email? And I mean, this was early days, right? We were 20 Episode 20. We started telling people that we had a podcast before that. We didn't tell anybody. Yeah. And so there has to what we worked out was we don't know how it is now. But they said that they went to school, high school, primary school primary school with Josh.

43:53
So then they told a storey that had this big, long, long storey. Yeah,

43:57
I was like

43:58
to actually remember that happening. I trust you. Not because

44:02
you just because I love your memory. For thing for nostalgia your memories better for this talented than shit that happened.

44:10
Memory Bates short. I had lunch today. No, you haven't. No. Problem.

44:16
Did you just remember that? Because I don't know where that

44:18
Yeah, right. I was just thinking. I mean, he's, if you remember, a little chippies, it hasn't GPS doesn't count as fucking alive.

44:24
Anyway, this this is I was a fabricated storey according to Josh. And the reason Josh is saying don't worry about that email, because he thinks it's fabricated. And can you read it out? I know you been training for this one. Can you take it away?

44:38
It's super long. It's a long Yeah. So hard to paraphrase.

44:43
The first first paragraph the last paragraph?

44:45
Yeah. Sentence Lawson

44:48
because I actually haven't read it. I just glanced over. It didn't make a lot of sense. I read the last bit, which is good.

44:54
Yeah. Okay. Well, so I mean, we're going to preface a little bit in Australia. There's participation in swimming lessons at primary school and maybe think High School. Yeah, I remember doing swimming in high school.

45:10
So I guess that's forced. I mean, you're

45:13
throwing I feel like

45:15
a fucking shit. Yeah.

45:17
So they just get how many ways what you gotta do? You gotta go. And so Josh is Josh has anxiety wasn't around the swimming. It was around the stress of being checked of changing in the bath. Are you talking about this is fact this, you're writing an email at this point? Yeah.

45:31
Yeah. You sort of went into talking and then you start writing the email. I'm paraphrasing, okay.

45:38
If it make it sound like you now ready, tell us when you're ready. You know, typically when he was saying that I thought he was prefacing the email with suggesting like,

45:49
no, that's

45:54
nice to help you. Walk the award winner.

45:57
What was a lot with the last bit of the MMO Nike

46:01
Okay, you're in email mode and take it away from the very beginning.

46:05
Josh was getting changed the

46:08
name to say how

46:09
you want me to read the whole

46:11
fucking hell? Okay. What's the subject line? Hilarious nostalgic, Josh storey. I'm going to take it from the very beginning number two Hi gronk. You might recall my touching this Celtic mostly true storey from Episode 37 minus a while we lost it. That MK got it was regarding Josh is fraudulent flatulence with his armpit slash bomb. I do admit that I exaggerated the smell and I implied he was drinking Metamucil it was likely fan to way and he did you

46:46
know the funny thing is that the fantasy thing that they're talking about, I did have orange mineral water each day of the school campaign now

46:54
this person I'm starting to believe that more and more now on this whole email now this is fucking intriguing.

47:00
God went to Moscow Park Moscow. Moscow. MOSSGIASYUNM. PIPA Yes, Moscow promise. Yeah, and have a number of hilarious mostly neurotic storeys revolving around Josh, this is completely true.

47:14
So it sounds true up to this point. I hear

47:16
your talk of footy reminded me of a gym of a storey.

47:20
Right. He listens regularly washy

47:23
if I sign up for it with the night No, no, no. That's why guys kind of set up a fucking gmail account. Okay, going

47:30
okay, for some of us the two to three weeks of forced participation of swimming is stressful. For example, Do I look like a cc when I breath shark

47:40
ICC anymore?

47:42
What is the meaning of the CC and go

47:45
somewhere else I wake up with Josh the stress is largely due to the changing rooms. Josh would typically wear a wetsuit or shirt short shirts, or baggy board shorts. This is true wetsuit you

47:59
can wear now you probably Yeah,

48:02
now he's just exaggerating again

48:04
I get he's changing into school uniform technique was thoroughly prepared. He would first attack his fears. Get out Get it out of the way so to speak. He would wrap the towel around his waist change his shorts underneath and then tackle his upper body afterwards. This is a classic kid this said yeah, I think it

48:25
I have seen you walk around in the towel.

48:28
When some new york in New York you are walking around and I have been criticised once I fucking wore it. My god my breasts

48:38
embrace your you've been defeated. Nothing wrong with breasts love them. But run has

48:43
bred Yeah, breast tissue.

48:45
breast tissue. Yeah, but when you're referring to have breath It's all a man's chest breasts heck tutorial muscles my chest region. They don't breasts baby boy. Continue shower, strong breath.

49:02
The very breath.

49:04
However, on this fateful day, whether it be a gust of wind or destiny getting nervous, his plan was foiled. The towel fell off, and Josh was confronting Lee nude in the change room. Now what's coming up is the reveal or of what's on tour.

49:20
But was it true to this point where you went down

49:23
now I feel like it's traumatic

49:23
enough that I'd remember that you know your little mushrooms out it

49:30
could be

49:31
mistaken for just a small piece of fungus. But anyway, that's what my mushrooms are fun guy.

49:36
Yes, this is true. You know time saving f8 Josh tucked his manliness between his legs and Jonna and quickly tried to put on his undies.

49:45
He's done a man john and he said he's on you're in a bit of a pickle there if you're trying to tuck up behind your fucking little pickle behind the

49:51
checks. Or

50:00
which is fine.

50:01
Right? Nothing wrong with that. At this very moment my best friend as a travelling salesman, gone at this very moment the classes for the next group of swimmers entered the change room. He's got an audience, popular bully pointed and yelled. Haha.

50:17
This is the kid that he was referring tonight his mom's episode.

50:21
Now. That's how many bully

50:23
Yeah, you do when you go fuck them up.

50:27
They're all like, we'll have to go to fucking the jail.

50:30
Don't miss it then. It was a small passing moment. But Josh fretted on it on the following few days, determined to prove his masculinity, but very conscious of not being sexist. Josh tried to subtly imply that he was 100% a red blooded bloke.

50:47
I mean, up to this point. There is a lot of truth to that you don't have to be sexist. You try very hard not to sound like you are seasons but your consider your progressive. I can imagine that you'd fret over it for a couple of days. So I'm believing this

51:04
girl. It started with telling the bullies friends that he kicked four goals in footy on the weekend. Definitely

51:11
a time to say that he would keep for

51:13
I've never cooked kicked for now. But you can imagine I could properly set it.

51:19
I wasn't saying you done as much

51:21
as it did. I've picked one goal before,

51:23
one one year

51:25
and it was on a round robin Robin where they had smaller grounds. They have the grounds.

51:32
It made us to the goals. Yeah.

51:33
Yeah. The other reason I got it was because I could fucking run the

51:38
best on ground.

51:41
He started spitting wall leaning against walls and then spit and declared he had pubes.

51:47
Okay, so this is the thing the thing I know you've referenced.

51:50
Yeah. I didn't get until I was in the right.

51:53
lead with that. Dude, you were smart enough to know not to say you didn't have cubes in say you do have cubes? Because it has I mean, they have to pull your pants down.

52:01
How would if if it's true people would have seen my

52:09
my pubic area.

52:11
Yeah, yeah, I mean, maybe anyway, continue. Let's just get to the bottom of this.

52:15
Ultimately, he ended up admitting to the belief that he tucked it away and that reaffirm that he definitely has a dome. The bully literally couldn't remember

52:25
the ninja that was being speculated whether or not it was the hero.

52:30
Yeah, so the bully didn't remember the interaction. So sorry. All the stress was for nothing we can better. It's amazing.

52:35
Amazing the time this person has on the hand. Yeah, come in that I'll give them a fucking hood. I'll give them a baby. If you come out and say who you are. I'll give you Benny

52:44
they've got a real style,

52:46
man. The way they worded that what did they sign off

52:49
PS Cape this rip of pace up fellas. Enjoy the glitter bomb. Woof woof. Oh,

52:56
absolute gronk. Is this the gronk This is the first

53:01
I don't get it.

53:02
I feel like

53:04
did you say Ben Fordham's Instagram comment that he said enjoy the glitter bomb.

53:10
And then he did like Hands up.

53:11
I don't think Glenn i don't i don't think i don't think i don't think Ben for self centred because I said what he's mailing address because I'm going to send you something we got on the show. So I always like what we what you get. And I think he listened to the show. Anyhow. That email address that that person has. I looked it up last night. Yeah, I can't find anything. It's like what's it Can you read it out? But just like the first bit it's like, man, Turner

53:41
l mysterious

53:42
Yes. I'd like that's a character. That's something Elma steel Wisteria. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, I looked it up. It's couldn't find anybody. The wolf at the end the glitter, like they listened to the show. They know the wolf wolf. We haven't really shared this really does. Yes.

53:57
They must look it out in the storey.

53:58
Who I thought it could be. Jake Janssen had this thing they could fucking with it. Do you think it could be Jake? I love Jake.

54:07
Yeah,

54:08
IK could be. But is he a good writer? I'd say he's a chip off the old block. You know, the Janssen there was some. There was some language in there that? Were they creative. They're not necessarily grammatically on point data scientists. If we had one on the books, I like to take the letters in the words and the way it's written. And we ingest all of our comments and people who are interacting through Instagram and say if there was see if there's any similarities, I don't know how you do it. But it would look like this what was being done

54:37
just going through the Instagram storeys. I

54:39
was like the unabomber. They did something like that with the unibody and matching up the tops of handwriting. Right? I mean, we've got

54:47
like de Mayo, yachting, but I think you could grammatically, because I mean, it's well written I couldn't fucking write an email like that. I'm an absolute gronk Yeah, I mean, you all you actually you read that quite well, so I was well written. they reckon Yeah.

55:00
I mean, I'm not gonna say Guy gronk for gronk

55:03
definitely. Yeah, that's

55:05
our bizarre look. There's a few weird things happening. Yeah show glitter bombs bang since we the mouths of babes show.

55:13
Sam cabs right, it's getting weirder and

55:17
as we have our babies on and we'd like to the final week of three day deal bang here as still

55:23
as still says it's not a podcast that last Ah

55:26
yeah, and to be fair, it's my last few days in Australia for now. It's not like it's good. It's not like I'm leaving Australia forever. Well, I'm coming back I mean, you said a thread

55:42
very good all right. Patient

55:43
bed you've got one of the brand new the day talk show Jamie's is waiting Jim staff This

55:48
is tried face timing Pete yes I didn't answer I need this

55:51
is like it so

55:57
good. That's what I thought

55:58
I love it and we got new daily the day talk show hoodies

56:01
I thank you to while you sleep Yeah. Day on amortise your Angeles yet but i will but they were just Yeah, like I just thought Oh, very quick.

56:10
Might I texted Deanna said, Dude, can you get this done? He said maybe I sent him through the artwork because he asked and then I said can you get this done? He said maybe I texted him once more and said You reckon you have a done by this weekend? He said they're done.

56:27
If you're in Melbourne if you need screen printing specifically Yeah, while you sleep yeah Collingwood sick man just went there got a new machine to

56:35
what is the new machine? Well, it's just like another big sort of like I'm circular. It looks like it is this big circular machine. It's all digital. There's lights under a

56:42
screen print. It's cool. It's cool. And we could do a little screen printing down in the garage. I

56:48
mean, he's got like a national you need this. You need a printer. And then you need a brought you see Do you need a printer? a printer? Yes to print off this. The actual so print off this piece of plastic or the film and then you put that inside of the actual screen printing thing. And then it's like he's heard and then sticks transfers anyway. It's a full process. Craig hapa will be able to give us a favour. I know he had a screen printing business.

57:12
We we should do some gronk squad ones as well.

57:16
We got lots of merge happening. Find the fund baby. Yeah, fund the fund. It was the headline

57:21
of brought it up yet.

57:24
Today talk show hi the daily talk show calm if you want to send us an email if you're enjoying the show or a storey about Josh Yeah, you can you can email so you can screen grab and share. Thank you to trip. Which tomorrow you'll be heading off to go see trip. Yep.

57:40
in Sydney. As the book is coming out. I'll be flying off to Sydney. So in business this amazing math class. I mean, I'm going to eat so much at that lounge. Yeah, go to the land. We should see how much you can take the

57:55
lounge. I'm gonna abuse it until they kick me out. Could you try

57:58
and eight like they always have a stack

58:01
cheese slices I can take it like just get a whole lot of cheese.

58:07
He's easy trying business dude. No, no, he's better. Can you see your boarding pass? Yeah, business one a pointy end?

58:14
Yeah, I'll be wearing this and the hat.

58:16
Like you can feel like EGFJ our back in the day.

58:19
Like when a lanyard wouldn't be great to have lanyards night.

58:23
You said to me, can you get hoodies for the weekend? I did it. Yeah, that's right.

58:29
So wait, you know, what are we doing? Tomorrow? Is that because we've also got

58:33
Gary Vee tomorrow? Yeah, gather. Jules land is on tour with Gary Vee which is pretty cool.

58:38
Are we doing when are you flying out? noon? Yeah, we can we getting in there?

58:43
I don't know. I can take no I can take the Skype Skype

58:48
guy back to business. Maybe we should get him in over. We can probably do the whole experience. No, no.

58:58
One person voice said

59:04
it's a daily talk show. Yeah, but we're going to say Jules and Gary Vee. Yeah.

59:08
Who else is there? Who is Grant Cardone?

59:10
Oh yeah. What are you doing baby? Tomorrow? Yeah. Who sent you some tasks?

59:16
Why don't you know that? It's like saying, You're not invited. What are you doing? Today

59:24
it's a daily talk show or cinema guys. Hey, guys.