#845 – Something To Look Forward To/
- September 7, 2020
We chat about Tommy’s weekend without Bodhi, the comment of the week, leverage and resilience, El Monte, and figuring out a date to look forward to.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
- A weekend without Bodhi
- Comment of the week
- Leverage and resilience
- El Monte live
- A date to put in the calendar
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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 845 Happy Monday. gronk What's happening? What's going on? How are we?
Good? Yeah, good. It's same spot, same spot as always, not much has changed. Other than feeling feeling relaxed after a weekend with no baby.
I just, it was only one day that wasn't a helpmate when, you know one day turns into two days, I'll look he can have him for another night.
So went from Friday morning. body was picked up by my parents and my mum got a note from the doctor saying that she needed to you know, lend assistance and be a carer because we've been doing a bit tough. Anyway, that's that's all good. So above board and so body left and I spoke I spoke
Ma'am, Saturday, Saturday morning Calder said man, what's up? How are we? Happy guy? Bertie had not even mentioned us once.
I said fuck him, he's staying another night.
Now he'd been such a little angel. I said, Look, you know, you can have him another night mums like mum mums. The one that Yeah, yeah, she'll crumble quick. And then she always has to ask Timbo and Tim my dad will be like, you know, he's the sort of more stern like if he doesn't really Saturday off the table for them.
Anyway, turn that Bodhi, Bodhi was
able to stay another night. And so the the feeling JJ This is like, you know, when you have a client cancel and you really didn't want to do the job and then you're like, Oh my god, this is the best.
It's like that times 20. It's like, it's like you've had a year's worth of clients cancel and it didn't really matter.
Financially it was fine. It was like sick. I'm going to fucking Florida just to hang in. Anyway so service business
now but you know what about you guys?
yeah and so but dude I tell you what the one thing you realise it is like post traumatic stress to be honest like you I feel like I've been to war. This is no comparison to people who have actually served so forgive this metaphor, but I feel like I've served and when you walk around your house, you know like you I find myself I can tiptoeing and he's not even
everywhere. I'd like I find myself clenching my bum walking around the house just thinking that fact I can't wake him up, then you realise he's not here. It's ridiculous because you don't realise when he's here, how much you do that and like, I'll go to the bath. I'll go have a shower. It's not like you just don't want to wipe the little tyrant up. It's bizarre anyway, so it was it was
Lovely, and it ends up what would you do? So when did you find out on Saturday that you always leave for another night? Oh, it was fairly early. And then and then so we ended up just going for a beautiful walk. I know we found out we went for a beautiful walk. So we're feeling good out in the sun. And then as we're sitting eating bacon and egg rolls were from and Oh, just this local bakery. It's amazing. When I say back and gross, top end, you know, topping brioche bun that kind of shooting right? And then I had to then we had some Portuguese tats and as we've been mentioning to some Portuguese tart, we call my mom. And that's when we find out the good news. And it's how we just, you know, think of a film clip where it's just sun shining and it's just fucking pipe in the step. And we go home and then I think, like, did you actually were you so fired up that your
dance dancing as you won't know that it was? It felt good? Let's be honest.
Didn't felt real good. And so we ended up going for a longer walk with like that might, you know, this is Philly, let's go. Let's fight. In fact, Daniel Andrews in the 60 minutes this guy one, let's go 90 minutes. We did 90 minutes how they gonna know. And so it's not like we have a podcast where we talk about stuff but so we did 90 minutes of exercise this is gonna be like a case of the lady in Ballarat and I'm up in our pyjamas and you'll be filming as the Cubs come and rescue you. And so yeah, now it just that it just lighten the load for the rest of the day. And we just enjoy it for when he came home because we had a quick debrief on the Dan Andrews thing on Saturday.
And the tyrant was back.
The tyrant thing Bodi
now he was back in full force he had just woken up from a nap when we were nice
To you and and you hadn't heard the four or five hours of me saying it's my it's Father's Day might just relax a little bit. Just it's my day.
But now it's good to have him back. Good to have him back. But it's nice to have a break. Let's be honest. So do you feel refreshed? feel like it never. Yeah, definitely. Like it's interesting because you you think you want to do a bunch of stuff when when you have time but then you end up just like sleeping and just relaxing. But I had a really great father's day in the morning and went for a bike ride with my bro. And we just all it was magical. Just a trainer gronk A and would have loved that just downhill mountain biking around the suburbs. I mean, the thing is, this is I'm fucking falling in love with this area. Because you could you could, you could put in you could put in 60 K's of bark running around mountain track like tracks that go and witness a mountain. I don't live near Mount
And ranges necessarily, but there's just hills. along the rivers. There's like, places you go down and up. Oh my god. It's magical and there's kangaroos. And there's rabbits. sun was shining yesterday, I was like 21 it was magical. So I felt so good after putting in some exercise in the morning, and then came home and bacon and eggs and again. Yeah.
Let's create a small menagerie of
that's very good. Now the weather's been so good. I've been thinking about moving the exercise about bike out onto the balcony. Great idea. That would be get some real nice oxygen. Yeah, just thinking feels like you know, it's like you're in one of those. One of those trainers where you're seeing the big screen up in front of you, you've got a real live version. Maybe I'll get on that and sick. The
I thought we could start a segment every Monday called
Comment of the Week, because I'm not checking the I don't have all the social stuff installed all the time. Yeah. Did a bit of socialising on the weekend and so now dialling it all back a bit. Just as I went to click live on the YouTube channel.
I saw that we had some comments and my favourite one this week comes from a guy who this was on our studio tour video. Yep, yep. Great Mason killed that. Yep. Dude, you got like 12 k subs, but the studio costs like 35 to 40
You're right, you're right. Oh.
That was pretty funny. Dude, you got like 12 k sounds but the studio costs 35. That's a great day.
That was quite funny. Any any moment of being triggered or just a laugh?
Just a lot like the thing is, you see how I'm I think that maybe with COVID Is it just me or do you realise that okay, everyone's struggling and so because everyone's struggling I don't take anything personally. Yeah maybe that's a bad way of doing things but like I like every time someone is like super negative or that like it's normally out of proportion for what really is happening and so oh yeah regards to like what they're responding to in regards to like I saw around Did you see I think you might have deleted it I saw on our YouTube someone's like Leon sugar now mates obviously said something on Twitter and someone's not being happy so they've gone on every one of our YouTube videos. Do you see this? No on schagrin is a fascist or something.
those exact words, but just like political staff, people get parliamentary
Right, yeah, yeah, I'll go away taking the hit for other people. I know I can't be fuck Could you imagine being on Twitter dealing with like, like, I don't care that much like I don't care enough about my opinion about anyone else's opinion. Yeah to sort of communicate. Well, I mean, yeah, there were people being very triggered at this point and you say like even the last week, and especially the last 24 hours since the announcement of can, you know, two weeks more stage for lockdown in Victoria plus, essentially some of these wishes, isn't it like about 100%? So you've got hairdressers mate, Daniel Andrews, I don't know where he's going to get a haircut, but He's here. He's fucked up.
He's got another seven weeks before he can go to a hairdresser. If that guy gets a haircut. We're gonna be questioning it if he if he comes in short back and sides. I'm gonna be fucking saying where have you been? By November? he bet
he doesn't have a fucking
Man button by October I'm going to be gracing is I wanted to change if you think about it, when he wore the North Face jacket, more casual. Yeah, we're getting into summer I feel like he's gonna need sort of like a VB singlet.
So basically, there's October 2018, when hairdressing salons and barbers and beauty salons will be able to open so it's like the earliest of the year. And that's considering, like, if there's more cases if somehow there's a spike or something, then that's not going to be happening. So there's a lot of sort of, I get it, I get it, there's a feeling of an unsettled, you know, unknown. It's a scary place to live in, and I find myself slipping into that, you know, we're making choices for the future at the moment and, and so it's like, you can easily just try and stop everything that you thinking
about moving forward on, but then that's only based on fear of, you know this unknown because you can move forward. It look, if you can open your doors to your business, literally you can open your doors because you have a high street store. That's a different story. And I feel for you massively. And so I feel myself just speaking individually.
I can see my mind slipping into that. honour, honour honour, it's like when you haven't written a list of shit you need to do and it's all just in your head about what you need to do. And so you feel out of control. And so I can feel I can feel that sense of being out of control coming in. And I just have to if I can get back to focusing on No, this is what we're actually doing today, tomorrow, this week, this month. And like, do you think that part of it is that we like for us? We're still were young in the grand scheme of things, but also were sort of in the early stages.
Like I feel like we're at the perfect point when we're not trying to start our business now so it's not like oh, we need to find a lease or whatever. But then also we're not at the stage where if you're someone who is gotten used to a lifestyle if you've gotten used to like you know bringing in you know, 400,000 a year as you know, as some sort of CEO for business or whatever small business or whatever it is, like yeah, the I guess that would hurt but like for us we've been paying ourselves back in like the equivalent of just hive and just tape it for the last couple years to build this thing and so yeah, when you go on job taper, it's in like, we're in the fortunate position where we're doing stuff remotely and we're doing the podcast stuff, but it's not a crazy jump. Like I think about if, if it was all shit hit the fan. Like brain I would be not like it's not like we've got like a house to lose when I have
Have any of that stuff? So I do empathise with, if you are, like highly leveraged, or if you'd sort of built up a really epic business, and now this is fact the business forever, you'd be probably really pissed off 100% and so I mean, when you have less to lose your you're worrying less, I think.
But then that's that is one thought. But then people that probably, if they had that perspective, they could work out that there's not a hate to lose, but still there is worries and there's still concerns. I mean, but the word resilience like it is talked about a lot. It is talked about a lot. And what is resilient, it's, I've just looked it up. To be honest, I didn't know the capacity to recover quickly from difficulties or toughness. I knew what resilience mean meant but when you look at it like that, to get to okay, but the thing is that you have there has to be some difficulty or toughness.
To build resilience, and resilience is the buzzword over the last couple of years that's been thrown around of like my, you know, it's easy to say you need resilience. It's also fucking annoying because you have to go through something tough. And so you see that people from, you know, immigrants that have been through a tough upbringing, probably higher in the resilience level, across the board based on just having a tough upbringing. And so people going through tough times. Also, there's the reality that they don't come out resilient, because they, it's, it's been too tough or it's just broken them down too much. And so these times are building resilience in individuals and so the people that are struggling at the moment, I mean, that maybe it's a way of looking at it to say, fuck, it's a shit situation. But will I in the future be able to look back on this and go we weathered that storm or we were able to survive.
about families together all my marriage is still in existence or now
it still exists like we're married we're still friends it's um yeah these bizarre time in history I like to think about and then maybe it's a fun thing like what can you look say what can the story be in 10 years time looking back on this title and paint the best picture of what it what it could be and so it is like, member when we will fucking making nothing and we had that guy harassing us about our $35,000 GDI we had 12 case out well now we got 13 K and it costs $70,000 so we're doing well.
That reminds me of I was listening to a podcast last night he didn't Brian Have you heard of hidden Brian? Oh my when you're trying to build the second Brian. You don't want to hide the bride
of brains going on? It's by NPR but Aug four.
Think that you would love this. It's you 2.0 they do this every year. And this one is our pursuit of happiness. And the
the description is, sometimes life can feel like being stuck on a treadmill, no matter how hard you try to get happier, you end up back where you started, what's going on?
And so it's interesting because it talks about how we look back at these experiences with more positivity and happiness than the reality of what they're in. It's like when you go on a holiday, and it's a bit fact and like things go wrong and what so thing, but in like three months time when you talk about it's like it was the best fucking thing ever. I can't wait to get back. I think holidays are the perfect example because you think about how hot and restless and unsettled you are in grace waiting for a fucking boat, just to get the snapper on the you know
The military, whatever it was, and you just like, in the moment you don't feel amazing, but you look back on it like, darling remember whom ruin grace and clapping at the sunset.
It's I forget the bit where they get all those thousands of people around you and you're pissed off and you're hangry and you just had an argument, and you couldn't decide which gear you're gonna eat for the night. And you didn't want to eat more giros because it's you felt like a salt bowl already. You felt like a little guinea pig Salt Lake. That sort of thing is so good. Like, isn't it? It's it's funny because I'm sure I couldn't with the amount of pizza and stuff that I was eating in Italy. I couldn't have felt as good as I think that I felt. I was eating three pizzas a day.
But you're, you're happy you just there's something about the ingredients so good.
Okay, that's what
Everyone, there's something I mean, there's something about that mindset of holiday that just is relaxing. And so but you can have these senses is listening to this thing. So the moment of
someone's existence where they say they work nine to five, and they get home at 530, and they sit on the couch and they say, Ah, you know, it's time to relax. And so the purpose and the
you could say goal, but they might not be goals within meditation. But one of the sort of, one of the
realities is that you can have that
530 feeling anytime in the day, but we ourselves sit on the couch. We're not working. It's like baseball's on. You see the office environment, it's like high stress and we're geared towards like, we're gonna fucking get through this day and do everything before we get home.
And then allowing ourselves to have that moment. But the reality is we can have the moment at any moment in the day if we choose and focus in
now that the tyrants back is tyrant to me Never word What's it What's a nice fun?
My baby boy
Yeah, that's funny. Yeah. So the baby boy like how do you so that the thing of you know, fuckin squeezing your sphincter or whatever
is worried that I'm going to step on a landmine? Yeah. I mean, what's the what's the reframing then? How can you pretend like that that's not your reality during the day, I slam doors?
No, no, I mean, there is that there is theories. I don't resent the walking around is more just a realisation.
That's what's actually happening and because you have to be quiet, if a kid's sleeping, you can't be banging doors you got to be sensitive. And so no no I don't think definitely doesn't bring me sadness or anything like I there's probably a moment of like, and which I have been doing is like listening to these little squeaky voice and dislike this is the he's not gonna have that squealing like he's little voice that will change. So, yeah. about that. And yeah, it's and so there is the last time that he's that he, you know, says a stupid word to me. Therefore, it is crossed the line.
Now before, it's like say, how do you treat How do you savour the moments that even aren't feeling that great? And so the fact that we Yeah, yeah, that we need to go and drives within maybe to get into sleep, like, he's not going to want to come into our bed at some point. And so it's, it's if you're just like showing up
And strict, there's a lizard level there's like, I think you cannot, you got to have boundaries, like anything, any relationship. But then there are like, in these tough times, especially thinking about like, Fuck, we're gonna, I had a moment this morning driving, and I'm listening to this brickey radio. And now I had a childcare worker on the childcare person because childcare is not going back until the 28th.
So they want the 28th of September, which is great, because that means that for people that need to stay home and work, they don't have to have a child there to do so. Does that work on the 28th? buddy boy, we'll be back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hopefully with all things considered, like the numbers are good, which means that we had to work from home. And so but just hearing her say, you know, like, um, you know, kids have got in access to sort of learning that their teachers are putting on ELS like
fact we haven't been doing any of that shit. But then you can easily get into a guilt trap of like, Oh no, we haven't been giving him like this right education. And then I think fatten the kids three. It's like, we're all fact we're struggling just let's let's give ourselves a break. He'll be back at about a two.
The whole year level is gonna be like that. So he's fine, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Which I don't think that's the way it works. There is a nanny and the the idea that their whole, just like, if I can say, Oh, I know how to spell that's fine, but the three year old sign at a spell anyway. I mean, he's a good age. For that stuff. I feel a feel for parents that have got preps, you know, the pivotal, the sort of years that are meaningful 123 like, for really sort of working out your rhythm. I'm excited to see them as adults. I'm excited to see like, there's gonna be a
like the resilience that you talked about.
Also like resourcefulness and being able to my GM. Also be creative. Like you need to, like, think about how creative you have to be to work out what to do during the day when you're stuck at home. Yeah, man, it's,
it's, there's a lot of good that will come out of it. It's just hard at the moment. But that's if you if you, I want to build resilience, I think if you were to look at some traits of a human or a child that you want, and resilience is definitely there. Yeah. And so that's one way of looking at it. I guess. I was when I was swiping across Instagram. Yesterday, I came across an ad. And on that ad, el montay was playing the horn, no dogs. And so for people who don't know, we live stream a lot of the shows and we play this song. Yeah, it's become a bit of a theme song for us. It's the song that's on our
Waiting on hold music. The business Yeah, yeah.
But anyway, I was thinking it could be fun. If you hear that, like let's try and collate over the coming weeks months years if you hear a song If you hear an ad that has Almonte
talk show.com. It would be great to get his name, Luke, Luke Melville. I think that's that's the artist. Right yet loucon. Wouldn't it be great? How about this
episode? This is what we're fucking doing. I've just come up with it. So we've got Ryan Shelton on for Episode 1000 of the daily talk show. Yeah, let's get a live performance of El montay. And so Luke could have set up at his home and we could stream like a DJ style and he could be the guy that'd be crying. That'd be right. What's what some other things like? So I was thinking
in the early day,
He's when we first when we first started this, it was like, we're doing zooms and we're doing all that so thing but then everything changed. Like if you think about it, like
people in like Mr in Queensland has a very different experience like it at the beginning, it was like we're all in this together. Hmm.
It doesn't matter where you are, even in the world that sort of felt like it was very universal, where, whereas now, it does feel a little bit more sort of segmented based on the situation. So, Victorians very different context to people in Western Australia. Is there something that we could do like I wonder if there's one nice or one thing that we could look forward to or one date that we put in the calendar? We haven't done it in a while.
For like, just throw something just for everyone to look forward to? Yeah, no, we did a formal we did.
Say we looked at the whole ring and looking back on it so fun laying. Yeah, teasing.
I was drinking way too much.
way you're around, you're like, Oh, fuck
i booze. I was fun. There's some hangovers that but it's um, it's also timing right. And so there are things that fit into periods of time and so why did they happen? It's like it they kind of naturally all happened because it felt like that was the thing to be doing then it's um, so you're right Um, so yeah, so So what could the this October November? What could we do?
We don't have to have the answer now. I thought we could spit ball and then hide the daily talk show calm if you've got suggestions. Yeah and I don't think it can be something that we've done before because it's too It's too obvious and especially because you relate it to the time that you actually did it last, you know, last time Friday drinks. You know, I remember how it felt back then.
The Fall. I remember how it fell back. Yeah. What about something around the bubble? Like we like it's a
bubble themed party bubbles, because like, we're all stuck in a bit of a bubble. Well, yeah, maybe we could go agitator on who?
There were the band that was banned in the bubble in Federation Square back in the early 2000s. Yeah, they were. They were sort of like Big Brother. But in like a glass area and fed square Really? Did you go and see them or something and a channel v. They had a dedicated channel, where it was 24 hours, you can watch them.
Interesting. And so yeah, you're up all night watching us. Live straight. Yeah, love a live stream. So like in another life, I could definitely see myself working in London, you know, have got really good surveillance. real good. You say? allies and stuff. Oh, yeah, we'd love to do that shit. I mean, you could probably do it here. This
Probably some kind of, you know, just was disappointed you see, now you just see the,
like the eastlink cam or what like it's all you want stuff like, you know, pan tilt zoom it. So yeah, ideas. Yeah. Do you have any ideas? you have any thoughts? Um, I mean, nothing at this moment. Nothing at this moment. I think
anything would be the problem with that probably not a peaceful process. But when you start thinking about outdoor thing you start thinking about getting out weather's great look outside blue sky or faqeer and you want to get out of out and about.
And so that's where it's Yeah, thinking about doing something that requires being out and about could just be shut down. So like, he's one idea.
So could Yeah, cuz one idea that I just had, which we definitely wouldn't be able to do is it's like everyone going so well. That seems irresponsible. So we won't do this, but everyone going
out for their walk. It's a terrible idea.
I didn't think that they did that in dandenong. It's not a good look, it was them sort of
protesting protesting. Oh, really? What about?
What about something around like a baton. So for instance, it's like,
I've only gone for a couple of walks in the last month, I want to start doing more. But maybe there's something where it could be a handover thing, where it's like, let's try and get the longest walk going. And so everyone has to do an hour and you have to, you know, include the hour and then obviously, in Victoria, we've got the curfew at 8pm and it's gonna be 9pm. But then we could hand over the baton to people overseas as well. And so we could all lock it. We can have a big calendar and see
How long we could do a simultaneous like how long so no simultaneous, how long we could do the walk, where we're all what someone is always walking. And the one requirement is you just need to take a photo of you doing it. And we could have a blog. It could be the daily talk show.com forward slash walk. And you can see who's currently walking. Oh, yeah. What is it? Yeah, I don't mind it. It's to push back. Oh, that's it. It's Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this could be the longest letter ever sent. So you put like 100 letters inside of a letter. And so each time you open the letter, it just has another thing you can mail from your end. And so you see how far around the world you can mail a letter because you get a drug trafficking issue.
Somebody they trace it back to the show and then
a lot of hands touching, you know, physical, a lot of physical, yes. or touch. Yeah, yeah. It's, I mean, this step counts. I mean, this is where we need to do
Questions, guys. I mean, we're trapped indoors right now. Maybe our brains aren't thinking wide enough or big enough. Maybe you're outside of lockdown. New feeling. You're walking along the beach right now and you're like, boys. I've got the idea. I've got it. Yeah. Send us an email. Yeah. Great. Awesome. Hi, the daily talk. show.com that is the yellow dress. Yeah, if you enjoy the podcast, let us know. What's your calendar? What do you got? I'd say 50s 34th birthday tomorrow. Happy birthday. 53 34th. Yeah.
Yeah, if you if you enjoyed the show, leave us a review on Apple podcasts. But also telemed if you if you can, if you think if you think this would connect with someone that you know. Yeah, like they're in lockdown. Or if they, you know, wanting to sort of learn about anything.
Yeah, just resilience is. Yeah, it also like if you've got any suggestions on it. We've been doing this
For how many 845 episodes a lot of episodes, and we've had, if I think about it, there's been a lot of ebbs and flows in the style and what we've done. We want. And so if you've got any suggestions of what you're craving for from us, just send us an email height, the daily talk show calm. Because I think that that's definitely something that we can do in the coming months is bringing some of those ideas in 100% like, for instance, we haven't had a guest on since Episode 819. And that's a conscious choice by us.
to not make it too crazy on our end, sorry, 820 my bad at 20. So 845 Man, that was a lot. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Which we will I think that's on you think. And when you think about the when how long we're doing the show for the 10 year,
the 10 year goal. It's,
you know, there's no slowing down. And, as that guy in the comments said, we got to pay back our $40,000 Studio.
We're in this for the one oh baby when I when I've been using a knife that would have that would have stuck if he put in there you know and you're not asking 12 k subs $40,000 studio that you can even use
to be honest I think what would have
anything around the acoustics sort of gotten to me if he said you spend 30 grand on the on the studio but your acoustics a ship? Absolutely not my our studio facking sounds better than radio studios, most radio studios and they spend 200 grand just what we were getting will. We've got some exciting ideas for how fun is it? You spend $200,000 on an airlock of a radio studio. But then the issue is fucking radio signals in your car makes it sound shit.
It's crazy. Dude. Welcome to the new world.
Join the rest of you die, everyone, wherever you are. We're thinking of you and yeah, just roll. What did I say?
We're not all in the same boat, but we're in the same storm. Yeah, and yeah, I don't know what you can take from that but yeah, just have a premium boat. Yeah, just gonna have a super yacht
see you guys bye