#087 – Tommy live from the outback/
- May 16, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Wednesday May 16 (Ep 87) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
Tommy is working on a film in outback Queensland, but the show must go on, which involves Tommy hanging on top of a water silo to get reception.
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coming jacket and will you delight that was was that was that you
thought you're just giving you the North Pole is between
where we start which Episode What are we at 8787 and you are coming live from fucking Middle of Nowhere
night I'm we're not far from the most central point of Queensland so like smack bang in the center that's probably like a 60 calories away from us here
I'm currently sitting up a water tank center of Queensland Santa Cruz
I think you just said the center maybe yeah I'm saying right it's early it's it's 630 in the morning
and so the reason I'm up this water tower is because it's the only spot that yet really quality reception yeah this photo on Instagram that we that you posted you can see you can say water like it's a full it's half full, the water things half full and it's currently freezing because it's like it's so hot during the day out here and then come not time it just drops and it's so quiet dude you've never heard it this quiet
I can hear some birds is a lots of like and I saw that you also posted on Instagram photo of a frog on your high end camera Did you play from there
I've got a time at last night I had a time lapse going of the stars and and I went for about two hours I came back out after about an hour and there's a Green Frog Suit like smack bang on my camera and I flicked it off yeah and then came back 15 minutes late in the little bastard was backing us lifted off that would just kind of know not kind of just brush it off who meal the frog know the second factor
so so can you explain to people what you're doing how you got there I just want to get an update basically yeah
so I'm on a this is like a working cattle farm sheep farm it currently just sold it but the person who grew up here on out here making a video about the company he founded and so this is like you know where he
says I guess acquired all these yeah things in with who is is a person that makes sense yeah can hardly talk it's called love it but it's 30,000 acres the farm how many kilometers is that I think we worked out it's about 100 and I think it's 120 kilometers squared so he's like that's how much the farm has in life I might yeah and then this is the sole property like he's got friends with 90,000 acre farm so hundred and 20 kilometers that's the equivalent of fucking like that's that's a cc
it is there's so much land in Australia is so big you just kind of never really thought about it like this but then when there's people out here with you know their own business on 90,000 yeah I was this he was he was telling me that if someone having the Kimberly's that ons 2 million acres,
fucking hell so what's the like? What's the deal? What sort of actual what land is it like what is it is it like Dustin read it as it
is death in red and dry and there's things that so it's all for cattle grazing and shape. So they send them you know, kettles out onto the, onto the, onto the land to graze on what looks like I can dusty plants but they actually eat them. So I mean, in comparison to say like it gets land where this green grass everywhere it the opposite. But they do eat the foliage here.
And that's all they need. Like a in a sort of a in a drought at the moment. Yeah,
I mean, over the last five years, they'll saying it has been very dry, but they have come off the back of that and he's just a little bit less dry. But if you were to come out here, you see the ground it's cracked and it's you know, dusty and yeah, it's it's barren. It looks You know, when you're flying into these classes. It's it's crazy there is trees it's quite is quite a lot of green trees. But it's just very yellow land. It's um. It's it's it makes you feel like you're in a movie like you're in the outback Australia movie. So what
is you know what my favorite question is? If we haven't spoken in a while.
what's been a while but usually say what the hell out of you die? Yeah. What's been in a couple of days now? Yeah,
what? I made some of its friends
One of These Nights is a cattle
must run for cattle farmer now actually crazier. Actually, I don't know this in terms. The thing is, you can offend people that work on the land. why I'm saying
don't think they just farmers, you know, they basically fucking graph scientists like showing like, CDs, the complexities of you know, owning cattle. Yeah, he's crazy. Like, what was I saying? It's not a cattle farm at your, your grass specialist or something around that because you need to know how to actually grow the grass which feeds the cattle. But here's something interesting that you, I think, enjoy. So I said that they were talking around bulls and,
and he was saying that they send a lot of their balls, you know, after they've kind of, you know, bread and, and created more, and also them. Yeah, I send them over to America. And so Americans, a lot of Americans are eating Australian Bulls in the ground beef or release. And they we don't do that in Australia. I know,
definitely hit them here. But there's a big market to send the ball from Australia to America. I wonder if the server can call the Australian beef or something like that. Just mix it up. Yeah, yeah. No, but it's um, yeah, they definitely they sending the balls, which is the same way you meant eight balls? Well, then the mates quiet. Yes. saving them up as a steak. Yeah, that's why they ground with the
amount of a major event in in the US over my trips with going to BBQ. I'm sure I've eaten probably the question. One of the entire Australian bull. Even if it's just a small
in there. So arrived. So what? So you went from Melbourne? to Brisbane? Brisbane. Too long rage?
No. No. Stop. Went to Brisbane to black hole and then another 20 minutes. plane ride to long rich. Okay. Hang and get this long range is we're conscious was founded. Did you know? And I'd never even thought about this. You know, contest is an acronym. Do you know what it stands for? No.
See, I didn't even know it was an acronym. No, I mean, it makes sense. Because it's sort of like a weed word is now actually and it's all capitals that make it signed to make more sense.
Queensland and Northern Territory is service so started by these four blokes. Yeah, they bought like a plan now running I think, you know, supplies around Queensland and Northern Territory. And then it just like another plan another plan
and then I've got fucking a three add to Dallas isn't fucking insane how that happens. How like, yeah. And so how many properties Did you pass? Or what was the trip? Like, from the airport
to the farm that you're staying on? Is it a farm that you're saying? Is that what you call it? Yeah,
it's a it's a working cattle session. Yeah,
I forgot to mention that there was an hour and 15 minute drive from long rich to this property. And you go so you're on like, a main road in a town of long range. You know, it's like you feeling kinda like you're in a rural town small shops. And you know, it's, it's really interesting because I've got everything the odd Gi
Gi wouldn't have to hunt. It's handy.
So it should have had at 20 minutes and then you're on a dirt road for 40 minutes.
And that's their house that's where their houses and
now when we go past a bunch of properties every 30 minutes is like very few properties that you're going past as this so big. Yeah. And so it's it's a one line road that is two directions and so there's like big cattle you know, what they call them road trains, which like, you know, they blow your mind they're like,
50 meters long as I could not 15 minutes dropped 25. Oh, yes, I was like to trucks together. But they go down the same road that we're on, we didn't see any but you have to veer off and let the tracker past and so you just go down this dirt road and like your little fucking I 30 flip
be outside down trying to get out and then via society. So and and what they're doing is they're taking the cattle from the farms, are they what's their actual job? those tracks? Yeah, yeah,
those big tractor transporting the cattle through
somewhere, probably that people would rather not think about. And then I'd like to go to a restaurant. Do you feel like your perceptions, even though you've just been there for a couple of days? Yes. Any of your perceptions of anything changed to being there?
And I say this because I'm talking about my healthy ignorance we have around mate. Yeah. And where it comes from? Not just being shown asking questions. The rapids mom has been farming this land facilities. And, you know, just even like, how long between the time and animals killed and it's being sold in calls? How long is that?
huh. Two weeks. It could be dies. Like, it's
very quick. Yeah. Interesting. So that it was longer to Yeah, thought
it could have been. Yeah, two weeks I recognized thought. Similar time frame
they moving fast up here. Yeah. And but here's the thing we you know, Rupert who grew up on the phone doesn't you know, he'd been a kettle kettle master identical, but we stopped in his friend's place who is currently still working the land and God it's unbelievable. Love to have him on our podcast. if nobody's name is Hugh and he's literally just a walking encyclopedia around, you know, certain topic of farming or
Yeah, I'm gonna work that at what
is the right term? Because I don't think they probably having the same conversations right. There probably are some sort of podcast right now saying make video walker or a film
is all side
we're all having the same conversations, but just hearing the complexities of actually, you know, their side and before it gets to the place, but the way he was talking about the animals, yeah, it's like, because what else trying to work out is how long from the time they get the based until the time that they send it off to the avatar. It can be like, I think up to two years.
So there and how many castle is the cattle farm that you're on? Have
all the not many at the moment, but it can have up to 1000
Okay, so because 120 kilometers or whatever, is he a huge amount of land for even that amount of cattle right? So what else do they do they just like build fucking big BMX tracks. Do they do anything cool with their process these
are these like I'm sure other people that this one doesn't have it but they've got you know, code box might have box
awesome, like a little Damn. And it's just it's picturesque? Yeah,
I have the NBA in the National Broadband Network their
Satellite Internet okay I think it's like
this satellite transmission of Indian
awake Yeah, I mean it's huge it's going up back down
So he was telling us about and this is your see dude there was a documentary in in this something called dogs have you heard of no people who don't want to get subtitle is
the people in car parks you turn your lights on it's like
you said no
yeah dog is not I think it's like a thing in the gay community you turn your lights on you go into a car park and you fuck
well I could safely say it's not that
okay you'd be waiting a while as you want to
what is what's a dog
a dog is someone who hands captures and kills dingoes or dogs while does close
is a massive amount here the
fucking sneaky little pre exploding goes they need the back of shapes legs, so they they cut their their Achilles so they can't move and then they Weiss until they basically getting eaten alive by maggots. And then they come back and kill the animal. They they're real pissed and they really territorial rot.
So hunting them would actually be pretty fun because you feel like you're doing something good. You protect
well it's really hard. It's really hard because that they switched on their dog you know, there was
very lucky very fun on to everything sniffing around
Yeah, I feel like I would come back like if we were hunting fox is a fox is that we said or other dogs Dingo Dingo. It's a different thing. A Dingo on a fox
and complete different bases ok
ok, so fox is a fox a dog look you've been up in the country for two days I'm expecting you to know everything I could safely say that fox isn't a dog okay
I don't know is it
it's probably easier for me to Google right now but let's close the loop tomorrow with
so so that's interesting so does does it gets better so it is this one we're well known Dogger up here that works the land ever gets met how much money he earned last year and this and this takes into account he gets paid like thousand dollars a week from farmers to hunt Plus he it's like a $600 per dog that he kills again
it's probably 150,000 he made over $300,000 amazing that's a lot of dogs well he's he's he's like they call it the hit record He's part dog
so hard that that's like it must be pretty hard if that's like if they paying 600 bucks per dog well yeah
I mean shows you how much I need them go on yes if you know them ruining you know nipping cattle and then the cattle just starts oh yeah this is what they do when the when the cows are thirsty and the town's out and they you know
the the the dingoes running and bite off the tongue. Oh, and then the they get infected and I start dying of them, you know, they're getting eaten alive and then the dingoes come back in and take them down because they're so exhausted. I hate them. And so you say like this is, you know, it'd be like someone coming in Toronto, you know, fuck the camera when I'm trying to
get a bit of reliability. Yeah, yeah, there's probably man there's so shoe
Yes, like, do you feel scared at all like with these with Dingo? She said that I saw that you said on Instagram that two of the most venomous snakes in Australia he's on that farm yeah
yeah it's a
cop and maybe type in the other ones that King King brown but I'm just I'm just being cautious like lighten they
you know dogs this guy that was telling you about the dog he had a sausage dog this idea that they are fifth so what happened did others and he said he went off you know, got his fingers out. One got run over. The next one got run over. The next one. got bitten by a snake yes in the next one did too. So, you know diag animals to get beaten up here. But if the family that live on this property have never
never been no one's ever been bitten on this property or no one in their family's been bitten you'd have a fucking die when they Well yeah, there's flying Dr. service that comes out if something happened. Yeah. But yeah, everyone's pretty relaxed there's a real
it's a real community Yeah,
I just did it here I just did a search for dogs on urban dictionary because I was pretty certain about that how pack things and urban dictionary's definition of a dog that is a person who jogs with a dog
the urban dictionary is probably not the go to source but you know that's what we call
just back to the dog he's um you can actually call him you you have to leave a message somewhere and he shows up at your property
what does that mean you know he's like he so he doesn't have anything he has a mobile phone but so like you get a message to I can't remember how you either call somewhere and leave a message and he'll come to your property when he wants and and that was like they he's so in tune with the land like you spent two days walking around the property just checking it out you look like from the outside it looks like he's doing nothing and then he'll just walk along go yet this is the spot to put the trap and then come back a day later and his dogs caught in the trap fact
and then he kills them
and someone said I think he beat them up
like just fucking teach them a lesson in know what is it
was some reason Barbadian but I just got so
bad in beating them. It was so full on. But then
this, I think it was this guy. He was saying that he was on a property and he took somebody like just out driving their own motorbike for hours and hours. And there was a there was a big pack of dingoes on the farm and he literally just wrote hours and then he's like, yet they're in this log ruin our Yeah, so he's like, you know,
he's like a Indian and Nike and that's tracking You know, they're amazing at tracking things. Yeah. Any any must bit like imagine doing a doctor on that block? That would be
fun. I mean, I would be pretty I'd be a bit scared but would be fun. I mean, I guess it goes Nope. At the dingoes
can they kill humans
nature like they could fuck you up or they like it was there been any warning of around like don't if you say Dingo what to do
yeah no not that I know we can so you should be fine and what's the
like what's like the lifestyle like
in what way it just intends to get up what you do yeah
yeah I seen like who's around what's the low could you leave I mean this sounds like this fuck all people but I saw this
it closest neighbor here is 15 Kaiser I think yeah show which is you know it's double the distance away live apart from each other and it's just a road but did you see me on Instagram stories in the pub that I went to yes he
went to a pub which had like to self service be poor yeah no that was itself is that was the guy there was a guy working that Jesus cash.
They're very caged up here. But yeah, there was such an amazing like Outback pub experience. It's, um, what was the sign at the front called be drink now or something like just very basic marketing, but to the point and all you need to know we serve Colby here
and so. Yeah, we went in there. It's just like, such stepping back in time is just so basic stickers all over the walls. And you know, the the be tap just sell to, but fucking amazing. And so that's the closest town and I butchered the name on earlier episode on Monday's episode. I said, I think if it was mud mud Tambra. Yeah. What is it? It's. It's not about raw.
Okay, you really fucked it.
so sorry, to all our listeners in Marlborough, probably going viral now that like, what, what are people asking you? Do they have any interest in? Or do they get city slicker life already? Or if they asked you. Any questions? Anyone?
Now, no one's different, like, pretty laid back, I think you're fucking coming on a bit strong was the best party day.
But one of them. The guy from the probably daughter works at Mona in Tasmania says, you know, as much as we have very far out there's a lot of people doing, you know, traveling to find the opportunity
when I he, you know, these types of stories like you're talking about now think like, how little of saying of Australia and the sense saying this capital cities and I've actually seen more of the US and weird and wacky areas of the US and I have Australia
same here I am. This is the furthest inland point I've ever been to in Australia. And we're talking about tourism out here. And, and how, you know, we get people out to experience this, you know, experience what would I have when it when when I arrived on Monday night because we didn't get here until like, you know, Doc, five o'clock but we live in, and Rupert's mom and, you know, had a fire going and then sit at the table. And there was dinner, we cook some beautiful steaks. And it was just like this. I mean, if you you'd pay to come and have that experience, absolutely. Property way. You, you know, you'd look in every direction. You just say they just, it's open. You just you can't really fathom how
how large the properties Do you reckon it could be an email industry? Like, I wonder whether like, say what we do, do you think we could live somewhere like that and just sort of, have your internet be making films around that area? Or
could It's, um, I mean, if everyone's working pretty hard here. And, and, and the thought around why it hasn't really happened, like a tourism opportunity. Someone building us you'd have to build like a resort style thing. Yeah, because everyone's busy here. Then, you know, everyone's like,
owning a farm is like a
ping constantly, you know? Yeah, it's, it's really, it's a lost all job. Do you
get a sense of like, real estate prices and stuff? Have you spoken to them about mass? And you know,
I think, yeah, I don't know. cost. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure you could Google it.
I mean, it's you buying you're buying up to 30 thousand acres? Yeah. So it's not just a little. Oh, just buy property? Yeah,
you got it. You've got to do something with it. So the guy the guy that you're filming tell us what if what have you learned about him?
He's just came and took a photo of me awesome on this
I mean, the most awkward position on straddling the, the fucking the ladder and the metal silo.
And to be clear, and to be clear, I told you like, when we were planning this yesterday, to make sure it was all good. I was. I tend to get on the complicated route, which involves laptop external microphone, but you're being a bit of a policy. So we had to just use your phone. Yeah,
Yes. So tell me what's been the what was the guy's name again? Yeah, your roof. And so what's
talking behind the tank as we speak.
So what's Rupert's created? So you How long's he was he on the farm? What was the what was like lifestyle what was the you know, growing up
around there? I'm in a I'm an expert on rooted now because we've been interviewing free coffee I'll be inside
Yes. It Rupa grew up out here and
I've just lost Tommy My guess is that one extra phone near the water silo was enough to push push Tommy out
Tell me Can you hear me
This is unfortunate
look we we must give our kids that will let me hear me Tell me yeah yeah yeah tell me tell that story again because I just completely fucking cut out as soon as you said by Rupert I had my my vibe was that he's phone was taking or every bit of three j that you have
so tell us oh yeah what's your episode yes
so where I'm sitting I'm looking down at like am a little cottage and that's where he spent his childhood doing Primary School over the radio so he because they're so far out here
every morning 30 minutes a day it speak to a teacher
with a bunch of other kids it's actually the name for it was schools the air yeah and so it's a remote living to get their education back in the day you know now it's a bit different that's got Skype and smart devices but this was legit hand holding a fucking
to a radio I remember like in the school library you would say yes about this sort of stuff you know you get sort of the old school picture of like the big radio system and stuff like that yeah
and so he spend his time he now lives in Sydney but grow grew up here and he went to uni in milk in July yeah there's a great there's a really great I think it's agriculture and farming degrees that you can get down there yes okay University it's probably eventually that's prestigious he did he went there and listen Sydney and founded a company now that I'm girls and all the elements in his upbringing, the remoteness and learning and connecting with people. And so it's got this app was, I feel like, I can just feel it for him so much about it. It's connects, you know, individuals with mentors and coaches, teachers through the app, which is called wonder and it's just about creating opportunity for people that might not have access to people like mentors, you know, if you don't leave, I mean, for a lot of people, it's like, how do you get in touch with how do you become a with the bloke like Craig is the guy that you want to learn from? I mean, you're watching stuff. But getting face to face time is, you know, tough and that's I guess that's what I was even thinking about moving. If you were to move somewhere like that. Yeah, you can. You can film stuff you can, you can have an internet connection, but actually connecting with people, especially for people who haven't done like a city sort of life and created that network that they can at least Skype into, you know, the existing network. Yeah, sounds like a, an awesome opportunity. Yeah. And so he's, he's creating this. This happened.
That's what we're doing. We're here just for the filming the story of where he grew up. In
fact, it's amazing. The sun's just risen and it's just, it's majestic out here. Joshua. Well, it's very gloomy here in Abbotsford in Melbourne. It's very overcast. It's pretty dark. But anyway, it's it sounds beautiful way. You are amazing. And so
will you today is what Wednesday you fly back. You fly back Thursday, Tuesday. Okay. Yeah. So we'll have two more episodes from
middle of fucking nowhere, or whatever the place is called, which is awesome. So what we can do is if anyone does have any questions, thoughts, we should get them in on the email. And then if it's shit that you can't even answer we can ask Rupert before the show. And, and on Friday, we also have a special guest, which we're going to record on Friday when you're back in Melbourne around your fucking shed your and yes, I'm excited about that, too, because it's a one of our friends who's doing something really cool. And I think it's getting announced on Friday. And we'll have him on. So something to look forward to.
Oh, good. Good job. This is
the first time I'm doing it's been exciting.
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