#794 – Got him!/
- July 18, 2020
We chat about why Josh isn’t in the studio today, the best walker in the team, what GB has been scheming, filming a COVID test, and listening to two sides of the news.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
– Why Josh isn’t in the studio
– Thermometers up the bum and what parents do for us
– The best walker
– Flexibility and hip flexors
– What GB’s been scheming
– Filming the COVID test
– The podcast ranker and gaming stats
– Listening to two sides of the story
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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 794. What's happening guys? Every week in bands,
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it's been furious. Well, the
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claps out of sync because you're not in the room and I'm quite glad you're not in the room actually.
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I was clapping to check the echo in my room.
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It is there. Why is he here? Why aren't you here?
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Well, yeah, this this morning I woke up and I had a very scratchy throat. And I made the decision to go and get a coven test today.
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Yeah, and you still haven't done it, you're going to do it. So it's huge. I appreciate that you've even I mean, you can't you couldn't even come in. If you had said you're gonna get it later in the day. That defeats the purpose, but you are going to do it and like all admin, this is a fucking clusterfuck of admin because it's Quite a bit annoying. It's what are you? What have you been prepping? Have you? Have you convinced your throats stopped hurting yet? Or what's going on?
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Now? It's getting worse. It's getting worse. Yeah, but it could just be the I was I was saying before I'm extremely dehydrated. I haven't been drinking enough water. Yeah, so it could just be dehydration i'd feed. Check my temperature. Yes. 36 point something which is good.
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So how did you do that? finger in the bum? Use the thermometer.
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under your tongue.
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Can we can we just get a show of hands? Did anyone have a thermometer putting their boss as a kid? Oh, no, I don't think so. Remember, we're not that we're not that all. I mean, it wasn't by the doctor. I did it personally.
1:50
Or you said your mom used a flashlight. Oh my god.
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So I we've talked about this on the show before and I'm only talking about it again because it's relatable. I go to Snapchat, that die or an Instagram story after I spoke about it probably a year ago, or a year and a half ago, that when I had worms as a kid, my mom would get the flashlight out and I'd put my ass into the air and she would shine the light into my bomb and out would come worms
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Tell me I've got the exact same story I
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used to get the flashlight out
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cuz the adventure with the toy isn't true. She used to wear head.
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She probably did. I think it was it was a handheld torch back then. But now she does wear a head torch. When she's getting earwax out of it, she gets the hit. Wow. Yes, yes,
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she looks up to me. J so I haven't we haven't had confirmation. Is that something you had done? Never
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saved No, no flashlight.
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Josh. You did? Yeah. No. Oh, you didn't
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just I'm sorry.
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Was it the two of us Georgie boy because it's you know what? It's funny because I Bodie, I've done it to Bodhi since Really? Yeah. Because he's like, scratching and was eating. Did you get excited? Like, what is he? No, he's my bomb. He, but then I couldn't say anything. So, I mean, I was 15 I don't know how I wasn't, I would have made
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it go to the worm things that you'd have though sort of fake chocolate.
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Yeah, you know, I I was on the Wehrmacht, which were orange flavour they I never got the chalky ones. Maybe they came out a bit lighter. A couple years older than you guys then
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the his mom doing things for him still. Yeah, I mean you JB got sent shoes. You got sent to underwear as well. Yeah, undies. I got sent socks the other day because Tommy
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Yeah, yeah, he sent a photo to mom of my socks which had a hole and so that was on my personal account. I was just having coffee with Georgia. I'm like, Fuck your socks at Harvard. Oh, hang on. mumble Point. Yeah, just sent them to Etsy. I mean, George's mom,
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when I go Sorry, it's it's a bit of a it's a bit of a beauty workshop. So she'll do a facial. pluck my eyebrows. Really? cut my toenails cut my fingernails, that sort of thing. Oh my god. Wow.
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Oh my god. Yes. Yes. Yeah. How much of a baby Are you like when you especially when you're in Bendigo what's your life? Like? What are your parents still doing for you?
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Mum did my washing when I was at home. Nice. I tried to do it. But you know how they just kind of get on top of things real quick. The weekend bit Yeah. You're having to just have it sit there cooking dinner. I'm happy to accept that
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are you doing you didn't cook a meal and I so that's what I heard.
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It was so nice. Yeah, and the dishes like if they're happy to just go ahead and do it straight off to do nothing. That's their responsibility.
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That's the law.
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didn't leave it until I'm ready to do that.
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Yeah. Oh, that's nice. Well, my mom messaged me this morning and said, Can you please call me? I was like, Okay, yeah, sure. I forgot to call it the day before so I'm like a fucked up. So I caught it within about 1.3 seconds of the text message coming through and she was surprised. And she said, Your father and I have received a $750 payment from the government. And we want to give you an Amy 250 bucks I can absolutely not I don't take money from PayPal.
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750 and why my
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brother in his actually my other brother got left out of the equation. But my brother who's got a wife and kids or is also getting 250 bucks. So this is the bonus the so people of a certain age or certain I think might be the age bracket pension or People on mountain data seniors, they get cash and it's meant to be put back into your 250 bucks. Well, I just got 50 bucks transferred into my personal account for like my bank account which is my money and then we've got another me We'll take another 50 then we got 150 to spend on something for me and all that so man said buy a jumper or something, would you? And so I did. I'm definitely gonna like splurge it because that's what it's meant to. It's meant for
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like see economy
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Yes, just buy stupid shit like I I can't I'm not gonna just spend it on dinner or something. I want to buy some fucking fidget spinner by new carry out and not just
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a fidget spinner. Yeah,
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well, I'm not I'm not I'm definitely not going to not go into this the not going to Westfield or anything. Yaki yeah that's Yeah What
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about a Saturday he's New York City like one of those like talking about jumpers when you get a nice jumper.
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Just matching just the Saturday
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the boys could get
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a cotton I could get a few jumpers that get it by the whole shop how much is how much is a Saturday job because I feel like they like 90 bucks
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one ad
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whoa boy you really have to blow me that if
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you want to just use up your cash That's what I'm saying. Yeah yeah
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I don't think it looks
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that down I think I know that we don't want to you know make it all about my body issues but fat George the video that you posted on hump days Instagram of me walking close to fat shame.
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Are you serious?
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it the the downlight just is in all the wrong places and so I just looked like a fucking wanna stick.
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There's quite a low angle. Now you look right. Hang on. Oh, sigh by the way just on that I got a lot more votes later that night so I think I got about six votes all that sorry for the best Walker.
8:00
So what so this was for walking so we we picked up that just as a very strange sort of almost duck like walk. Not a good day.
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Yeah wide gate robot guy.
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Is that is that and that's not a compliment or is that like where am I offended
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when we're
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on the we're on the fence if skylight was
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when you first
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I actually still don't even know what it is. Cuz you were making it out as if I really wanted. Yeah. Which is not attractive really is it?
8:30
So okay, I'm just watching it back so you got George walking like a supermodel. Thank you.
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I think
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Josh, Josh, you're walking you see what I mean?
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You're walking like you like that walk of yours could turn into a run like you're about to shoot yourself. Jess anyway. She's walking back. Not a guy. No, I don't think she I don't think she not too much.
9:00
I've never noticed that the walk into ghosted something.
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Yeah. But Josh victoriously went for a walk to the supermarket. Yeah. And I think it's just because the two are too tall and I can't keep up.
9:12
Yeah, I think Jess looks like if you sort of pushed her, she wouldn't fall off her centre of balance.
9:20
Like I feel like you've got you're ready and Josh looks like he's about to face plant every time
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he's off somewhere, you know, he's on a mission.
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My man was gonna be cold falling forward.
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By the way, we should just mention that Ron john. Is the superior Walker of the gronk. Oh, yes, I can get that in. Yeah. No worries.
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I we don't know what he's walkies. We'll probably get a full breakdown when he comes out the back of COVID where we can see him again, walking,
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I've never held tight hips I get Bree gets very upset with me because when we're in bed, I find this pressure point for whatever reason. I'm really drawn to the hip flexors and I put my finger in it trying to massage it and she reacts every time. She has been electric shocked. Does anyone else hang away? You're You're massaging her hip flexors? Yes. I almost like in some sort of almost like Reiki sort of like knowing one's body.
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If she had
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to be Massa No, no. And this is what she's annoyed by. She's really
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hurts. That's why hip flexors. There's a few points that you can't do to people like that. They're not good hip flexors is
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much bigger. Because I was trying to do it to myself and I couldn't do it. Like, can you like do you feel the tension in your hips? Yeah, I've got I got
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Yeah, yeah, I know a spot I can. I reckon most people if I the spot that I've got right here, I reckon it would get most people. Yeah, definitely. Because here's the thing about it. The reason hip flexors are so tight is that with every step you take is hip flexion. your hip flexor is pulling and it's right Your leg up like to move your knee up and down. he's a he's flexion of the hip. Like this.
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I was actually proud of GB said the other day when he saw the photo of me in first class, but I have a very strong quads. Is that what you were saying? That
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hamstrings? You got great homies.
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Flexibility? flexibility is great.
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Yeah, cuz you'll pretty much 90 degrees your legs were out forward and you can do a lot 90. Yeah, I can't go below my knees if I'm trying to touch my toes. Very bad. Yeah,
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yeah, homies out of the ones that have taught on a lot of people. Yeah. Can you can you touch it? Like, can you touch your toes? Yes. That sounds
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like really
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crazy. But we're on the hamstring. Can you can you can you flexible?
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No, not at all.
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Yeah, and I've got really short legs as well.
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And so you can touch your toes.
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touch your toes, not
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you know Like parallel with my legs you'd have some people can really just fold themselves in half.
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Yeah, it's like a touch. If you're sitting down and your legs are out strike Can you pull it along there? We're gonna
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have to confirm this. Yeah, let's get
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definitely I can BTS who can touch.
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There's a lot of anti farm roller stuff online at the moment if you notice.
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I have a little tip. Don't farm route. Don't farm roll your back.
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What do you mean? Oh, really?
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Yeah. And I think it's a bit there's something risky about doing your lower back because there's nothing actually there. You're just going straight against the spine.
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Yeah, I mean, but if you're against foam rollers and you let your mate grab you and crack your back.
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Yeah, no, not ideal. I mean,
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you always hear about this like, you hope that you remember those fucking loose units that would hold people until they pass out
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at school. Do you remember that my brother had that happen to him? It's so dangerous. So they were playing a game and they were seeing how long they could hold their breath for. Absolutely. No, that's ridiculous. And and he ended up finding because he held his breath for too long.
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I feel like it's
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such a no lose.
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He was definitely want to work out. No, definitely. It's so bizarre. George, you been scheming recently?
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Yeah. What are you up to man? I'd like to present something on the show. That's okay.
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No, it's not my
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plans cuz you're not. Yeah.
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gaming and not skiing. I'm
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just going
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I do feel slightly bad because Josh is at home sick. But yeah, I think it's actually gonna be it's probably it's actually good that you're at home. It's probably better.
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Well, in case he wants to build Yeah, yeah, just in case just in case but um,
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this is a little bit of a tease for Hump Day replay coming up. And because it doesn't involve a throwback, and a little bit of an idea to get the word out there for my podcast hump day playing. Go check it out if you wanna listen. It's really good. It's been in the top shots.
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Do you know how much we pay to have that put out?
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What the live raid? Oh,
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we pay the host. just wanting to know. I'm not telling you but because it doesn't matter. But that's all good.
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Yeah, well, I'm doing all the marketing for this video, so I can just play a little video for you now. Episode 304 with Leon shokran. We're in the middle of one of our coveted sticker runs. shirts. Would you do a mail drop for everyone in my apartment building? Have your stickers set up
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good. Would you do that? Oh, next Fuck off. I was totally sorry. To listen to this.
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The idea was tempting for Josh. What do you think about that maybe doing a mile drop with stickers in my apartment thinks that until the reality sit in. It gives me anxiety to think that it's in the Building I mean like all
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that Josh that like these weed in the left like that's him and no no let's just
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go some other buildings or another building or just go houses
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houses are a good idea for promotion but Josh's apartment building is much funnier. So we created a flyer for Hump Day replay. Headed to Office works and printed a shitload of copies. Double sided.
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write that
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letter says, Hi, girl. Unless you've been living under a rock, you would have heard that I've got a podcast called the daily talk show. The premise is simple, everyday shit with my best buddies. We've just released a brand new podcast and we'd love for you to listen up that replay is the behind the scenes podcast of the daily talk show. or as we like to say, the show about the show. Listen on your favourite podcast app. Thanks, Josh. He's gonna hate us It was then time for the delay break by the flies on blood. And she'd like to stick his
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hand we're gonna have to get out of the driveway. He's gonna
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be so embarrassed
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out thanks for the idea.
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Got a beauty
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he's not happy that is
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my I can't wear my hoodie anymore.
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I mean, if there's a time that you're gonna pretend that you have COVID self isolate for 14 days, it's now
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a nightmare. Did you like the way it was written?
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I just to be honest, I was just the whole time. I'm not signing off with my name is Well,
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the word that announces This is really good.
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Yeah, last night God, I was the one thing I love it I love it because it's it's it's Josh is it's what Talley Smith said she's allergic to the embarrassing secondhand embarrass secondhand in back she said secondhand embarrassment. I know that feeling for some reason I didn't have anything any secondhand. I'm just loving it. I wish we could work out Oh, here we go. How we could know if they listened. Like if there was a prompter
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or we should have done a smart link the QR code we should have done that the
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problem
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the other way we can just work yesyes
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Did you say it was in the bit I actually blanked out. Did you say the dog was in the building as well?
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No, we didn't.
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But I can see the logo and
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I would have seen you with the hoodie. And
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then a link bang click throw is someone saying hey, you're that guy Josh from the
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yeah yeah it's good I think it's very it's funny I think would have been it's funny Leon's place but I would have liked if you'd gone to Leon's
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What about hang on Jess? You live in an apartment block? How many how many are there 25 Oh right that's 25 new listeners small can we get can we get any left?
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Yeah we can we can print more.
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I just have a feeling that this could go too far like I I go really dark and it's like a felon has has arrived in your neighbourhood with with George and put it out until the
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neighbourhood watch a
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little bit to look at
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for a man with a mistake. That's so funny. Now I appreciate that George
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I knew I knew you scam me did you do did you do every single part? Yeah we did. We did all Yep. Yeah. envelopes to the envelopes and but with printing envelopes that would have been five bucks a pop
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yeah he's $1 75 fly.
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Did you notice everyone wearing masks at office works? Ah
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boy Yeah,
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they all were What were you over there? Yeah yeah do you
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drive them so yesterday
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morning we met at office works and we got them all printed
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it was nighttime.
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Yeah and then and so then after work we will drop them off
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absolute slimy
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slimy nobody's told me in the car with Bryson sibs
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oh yes
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I dropped them off They're on the block as well. Yesterday morning.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. Check it out to me, Jess. Jess.
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How would you feel if that if we did something similar to you?
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I'd be fine with it.
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Would jack right? Mason play the video?
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Funny thing is I don't think anyone in my building would have the capability to log in. And listen.
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We live in a retiree retirement village.
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Yeah, they're quite old. It's older. There's only a couple of younger couples. Yeah,
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yeah. That's good.
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All right, man. You're gone.
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I'm just gonna say fucking good luck with the COVID test. Yeah, you've been knocked out. You're good. At least three days of
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noxious to film the process. I think it is, isn't it? Oh,
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well, I've seen people using long lenses filming from afar, no joke. 72 Well, they Yeah, more than that. They've like the news crews got long lenses so you saying full like hundred mil I just saw people doing it themselves like someone like opening up and doing it.
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Say that on Insta. Yeah,
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I'm curious because I actually think I'd be quiet even though I'm a baby. I think I'm gonna be very good at it like I don't think you've just taken lightly if we'll think about me with my toothbrush I've got no get like I can fucking go real deep. Can you see
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what I mean? My teeth are only that far back. You don't need to go to
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Russia, Tom. Ah, just you brush your tongue?
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, I've started Friday loves it too. He gets pissed off when I've done these teeth. But then he's like, Ah, really? Yeah. Do we talk anyway, I this is good because no one in our team has yet had a COVID test and and you're doing the admin for us which is ironic because you fucking hate admin.
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trying to work out. So to be honest, there's a physical health down the road. But whenever I walk past I walk past quite quickly because it is like a great support, you know, for the community. But there's also, you know, drug affected people and stuff like it feels like the sort of place where they would have safe injecting rooms and things like that as well. And I kept the fact that with the anxiety of just going in general, I want it to be as easy as possible. So I'm thinking of going to Northland, where I'd to just drive and do it that way, rather than the bullshit of dealing potentially with a receptionist or junkie,
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they close it for. So you're going to get in for all of them. All of those testing facilities. I'm pretty sure it's like nine to four.
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It's funny though, like it's when you do these types of things. I'm so primed as from like being a kid that I expect like a caramel litical while like I feel like yeah, I get something.
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Well, buddy got chips and nuggets from MCAS as a little law, you know, well done, buddy. So maybe I've already get chips, but then again, you're a bit sick, so he probably shouldn't have had chips and nuggets.
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And so no, but we are going to we have the microphone out. I'll drive past and get the microphone and stuff because I yeah, we could have been so comfortable without the people sounding like this, but like, I sound like shit right now though. Yeah.
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Yeah. Now Anyway, good luck, my connection. good, solid, real solid best internet connection, best internet connection of any guests we've had on the show. So um, thanks for joining us Josh Janssen. It's the guy who's currently on radio today. There's an article Jay Walker in life labels podcast, rancour, criticism, misguided and so Josh Janssen Thanks for the round about that before we became it's a good segue always nice to wake up and not be in the news.
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So this is a fallacy
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you're famous for saying all publicity is good publicity.
24:17
All publicity is good publicity. That's the old saying, isn't it? But not to I mean, PR Jess?
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It's not sure why.
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Because if it's negative, it can do damage to your brand. And I feel like this this article, though I haven't read it properly yet. But we've spoken about it.
24:34
Well, this is the problem, isn't it? It's like when you stop throwing shoes, yeah, the good thing is that has that like done I was going to my side hundred
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podcasts. Absolutely not. Well, y'all are young Josh Janssen
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over here.
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I wish I'd like just look at like, I haven't actually heard of him before. But if you there's a few articles about him, which you can read up on that The on the specific he didn't go that hard. He was actually fine. He seems like a nice guy. But he, I think what they people cherry pick numbers and Sophie for him he was saying I looked at they thought we were misguided on saying that people were episode stuffing and things like that he compared Stuff You Should Know. And Carl and Jackie are always using them as an example of people who are in the top 10 who are very similar. But you have Stuff You Should Know who has 17 episodes, and common jackieo who have over 70 episodes and so those Yeah, they're compared in the same way but there's way more apps on the Colin jack side. The interesting thing is that when I wrote the article, there was just a chart, there was no mention of how many episodes each show had and so this I think that The conversation that we started, made them go and put the episode number. And so when you say some episodes, like I'm carrying Tommy over 200 episodes in a month, what? When you see them in the charts, you're like, Okay, well, maybe that's, you know, maybe maybe that's that shouldn't be compared to the same as an a show that has four episodes. Is it true?
26:23
Carrie and Tommy have 200 episodes a month?
26:26
Yeah, just look at the you can confirm But yeah, I was I was having a bit of a squeeze there was a few few up there over 100 pieces of audio.
26:34
That's ridiculous because he because if you've got 100 subscribers, and they all instantly get pushed all of those episodes if you had 5000 subscribers, you'd get you just gave me it by getting downloads based on your subscriber number. Is that right that Howard
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did anyway, I think that the thing is that they what we've probably learned is the podcasts around It doesn't really matter. Like it's it's a tool that people are using to like interface with agencies and get some extra cash brought on. Yeah. But I think long term, and I mentioned it in an Insta story that I did. Last night that I'll learn. I've worked out what a couple of not just podcasts, but digital platforms in general on social media, what they're doing to misrepresent their reach in a massive way. And I was going to release it last night, but I was like, actually, with everything that's going on. I prefer just over the next 12 months, just to hold back and enjoy watching them evolve. And then in 12 months time when these people are talking about their reach and how well they're going, then I can be like, Hey guys, for the last 12 months, I've been watching you and you're full of shit. So put it in July 16 2021.
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You haven't. I mean when you wrote that article, Jess wasn't on the table. And obviously, you know, she's in PR and she's informed me that all PR is not good PR, or any more about what's my say? publicity. Any publicity is good publicity. Yeah. What? How do you think about this publicity?
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Jess has he attracted any
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today? That's how
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they, they what I love about what some of these brands are doing specifically Tico because that's where we'll mention I'll just pick it up, look at their YouTube views and you'll see massive spikes where one video will have 4000 views and then they'll have one as 10. And so what people are doing is they're putting these videos as pre wrong. If you if you actually go on the back end, they're not no one's watching the video.
28:53
I've done that before I somehow clicked a button that was sponsoring a video back in the day. This is probably 10 years ago. That's
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not the expose it. That's just that's No, no.
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And I can safely say that that video that is discussing this exact article has 48 views so as just said, is it
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viral? Just
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look at Yeah. Watch that. Someone's gonna recognise you in your apartment.
29:22
Josh, you'll be a real thought later.
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Yeah. Whoa.
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All right. I'll peds we'll get you on all the TV shows. Yeah. Yeah.
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Andrew. Oh, you're five.
29:37
Can you please clarify that that is not true.
29:42
Alan Jones I love it. Alan Jones. I like right. I can if he can be okay with saying two sides to the story. You're living in an echo chamber.
29:53
it easy.
29:55
isn't what two sides of the story.
29:57
No, no, no, it's the far right side of the story. But if you're watching the project, you've got the left side, but it's interesting because they it just seems. Alright.
30:05
Watch it. See how you feel. Get that as a tdt as quite By the way, I love Alan Jones. As
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you said,
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like, you go. I mean, you've mentioned it many times, like I just fucking don't know the words sometimes, but the way they sound like you actually are an Elon Giants fan.
30:28
No, I mean, watching a bit of his stuff this week, I've actually seen a few people laugh.
30:32
So you are.
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Ellen Jones is gone to Sky News after his brekkie show. And they're pumping out clip after clip of him on Facebook. And there's a lot and it's getting a lot of views. And I've seen some people that are left leaning and they're writing and they're sharing his stuff in like, show where it divides people. And the only reason I know of Alan Jones really, he's lived in he was in Sydney during the break, he shot this I had nothing, you'd never hear it. He's talking about COVID stuff. And he's talking about, it's a weird one because the writer saying open up, it's all not a hoax, but it's all just, you know, if you have it, like, more people die from the common cold than this thing. It's all bullshit. Whereas I think the left are more likely to be hyper concerned, shut us down all of that, which is interesting, like I have I don't know where I even fit on it because I'm like, I probably want
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to think that potentially. Is it the difference between making money and the economy and humans and the lives?
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Yeah, well, I don't know. I haven't quite gotten there. But
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he's only conservatives would say that you need the economy to be going. I definitely have to be able to keep people to survive, which is sort of a there's an element that Yeah, I agree with, obviously, I agree. We need an economy but yeah, sometimes times maybe it feels like it was a there was a great bit on herd immunity and being like, it's actually it was completely overstated. herd immunity herd immunity means that we'll have 150,000 people died if we went down that path, and then there's no guarantee that the next year, it won't happen again. And so that's like, that's when would we ever be okay as a country for that amount of people to die?
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Never, never I mean, but then there's the people saying, like I've seen people that are probably more on the I'm not cool with vaccines, like for kids that are super progressive people, but are also saying coverts bullshit. And so it's like, it's just these weed parenting paradigms
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of like, it's the whole thing of the pro pro choice. So you know, pro choice is something that's used abortion from the perspective of abortion and being able to have that But it's now used for face masks. So the conservative, the conservatives are using it where it's like, Hey, we should have the right to be able to not wear a mask. Yes. Like, then using that same, same argument.
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Yeah. And so when I say I like Alan Jones I like hearing that there's someone bashing the drum for a completely different perspective because I'm more like, locked the fucking shit down. And then he's saying no, here's what's happening. Here's the facts. Here's what they're not reporting on. And I'm like, Huh, interesting. I don't know where more confused than when I started but laid some chocolate.
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Like Alan Jones.
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I think he's, I think I like what he plays in the landscape of media. Because you can't just have it all laid out ladies of the world. Yeah. It's they play their part. Trump will play his part in humanity. But and when you look back on it, it will have played a part. For right you know, for some reason For something like he's been there is, something's gone on, you know, like, this is history, right? Every day is what history will be. And so you could look at it as like, this is what is happening, this is what was meant
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to happen. I think there's so much change, though TJ and I don't know like that people like Alan Jones are a mouthpiece for misinformation as well. And so that some of the things that they're doing is creating confusion and creating sort of divides when really when we're in a pandemic, we all need to be coming together and being clear on
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doing
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but that's the assumption that everything you're saying is wrong. And because the thing is it's like these people are saying stuff and so I don't know what fucking is right and wrong from him. But if he gets a bit rot, does it mean that everything he got wrong the stuff he got right so what I'm
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doing that I think like my my perspective on Alan Jones is you hear what he said in the past. You say what he says about, you know, the New Zealand prime minister or you hear bits and pieces here and there and you, I build a thought around where I think his values lie. And then I say that they're misaligned with mine. And so when I'm hearing him, you know, talk about these issues. I am using that as the filter.
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I quite like listening to both. I quite like it doesn't mean that doesn't,
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it can be entertaining, they can be entertaining, and that's the thing I love watching Trump is I've said to 97 Trump is my favourite stand up comedian.
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What would Ellen Johnny's page Alan Jones is my favourite
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workI character now he is a quirky character like when I was I loved watching the today show and having our own trying to I'm just absolutely fed up with the absolute bullshit that's going on right now. I'm Alan Jones. He doesn't hold I loved it but like he's doesn't mean he's not fucking wack. Yeah,
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yeah. He's actually my uncle. So
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a secondhand embarrassment.
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Oh,
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that's where you get secondhand embarrassment.
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Anyway,
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