#867 – The Pseudo Self-Help Guys/
- September 29, 2020
We chat about data mining, Trump’s Tax, My Octopus Teacher, Gronk moves and pushing the boundaries, and what Fordo has to say about episode 2 of Screenplay Sunday.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
- The COVID contact tracing app
- Data mining tax
- Trump’s tax
- A delivery
- My Octopus Teacher and premium seafood
- Gronk moves and pushing the boundaries
- A phone call from Fordo
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[00:00:00] Josh Janssen: the daily talk show episode 867.
[00:00:08] Tommy Jackett: What is happening, Bronx? What's going on? How are we?
[00:00:12] Josh Janssen: Ah, very good. Thank you. 16,000 steps yesterday. Got it.
[00:00:17] Tommy Jackett: Thank you. Congrats. How many hours is that in total?
[00:00:21] Josh Janssen: Just within the limits.
[00:00:23] Tommy Jackett: Yeah, yeah, too. So one 20 minutes. Thanks Dan.
[00:00:27] Josh Janssen: I did it. I'm not even joking. I could actually, I could, I could probably apply it.
[00:00:32] I got a voicemail. Um, when I was out, I reckon, I reckon I was out a little bit longer than I needed to be. I'm not even joking. Right. I got the song and just play through the Michael was standing, hang here.
[00:00:47] You can't hear it. Why can't I hear it? Oh, hang on. Maybe it is connected to here. Here we go. The plugin it's in your phone. Standby. Is it in my phone?
[00:00:57] Tommy Jackett: I heard something
[00:00:59] Josh Janssen: stay [00:01:00] safe and staying home, stay safe and stay home time to stay home, stay safe and
[00:01:07] Tommy Jackett: staying home. I
[00:01:10] Josh Janssen: got this as a voicemail. What? Probably private number, number, private number.
[00:01:17] I was like, surely like Eric and I'm only 20 minutes over my time limit. Surely they don't have robo callers heard isn't that crazy.
[00:01:28] Tommy Jackett: Ah, they can disappear it's form one. So have you got the coronavirus app?
[00:01:34] Josh Janssen: Well, no, no, no. So I did have it, but all the Bluetooth stuff and you don't hear that it's that fucking effective.
[00:01:39] And so I think when I was doing iOS 14 and I was cleaning up my apps. It did go look
[00:01:47] Tommy Jackett: it's um, I think the government have buried it.
[00:01:49] Josh Janssen: They buried it
[00:01:50] Tommy Jackett: a long time ago. You don't hear much of it.
[00:01:52] Josh Janssen: Yeah, exactly. It's just taking up fucking battery. Don't that?
[00:01:57] Tommy Jackett: That is bizarre. It's [00:02:00] supposedly they're doing a version.
[00:02:02] Maybe in the States of the app, like an app that's powered by Apple and Google. And so it's like, has nothing to do with like a, um, you know, some sort of government creating it and then having access. So it's like, yeah. They one step removed from the data. I mean, they're, everyone's okay with Apple and Google having all your fucking info, but soon as bloody, Dan Andrews wants to know where you at now.
[00:02:28] Josh Janssen: I mean, did you say the, um, on the social dilemma, I think they spoke about it there. The idea of taxing data mining. So actually, like if you have data on someone, you are taxed on the amount of data to try and discourage companies from holding too much data about the, um, the users.
[00:02:48] Tommy Jackett: Where does it go here?
[00:02:50] Like how do they, how would they know how much spreadsheet is some way? Yeah. It's like, who's, who's got that.
[00:02:59] Josh Janssen: Yeah. I mean, it would [00:03:00] take, it would take a bit of, um, a bit of effort, but I feel like it would actually be easier to police the big guys, like your Facebooks. Which is just,
[00:03:10] Tommy Jackett: yeah, you do the one, the people who have the majority of the data in the world, if you've just pushing them into the corner, if I give it, give it, and then they have to it's.
[00:03:21] Um, I mean, have you gone into it much about Trump's um, uh, tax returns?
[00:03:26] Josh Janssen: No, I just sort of, it was a. A call seven 50, 50. He paid.
[00:03:32] Tommy Jackett: Yeah. Yeah. You know, you can't say he's not relatable. Cause that's what we usually are all. But you know, if you hear getting a little bit back or having to pay me,
[00:03:40] Josh Janssen: no, no, no, no. So like, no, but think about it a fact it's a bit, no, but do you know how much tax you like?
[00:03:46] We pay heaps, like on $195,000, you think you're paying like seven, 17, 18. Grand rent.
[00:03:55] Tommy Jackett: Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I thought you meant he had to pay a tax return.
[00:03:58] Josh Janssen: No, no, no, no. So [00:04:00] that's how much taxi paid, but you, so it is, it is pretty outrageous. And they did, they did some sort of comparison where it's like a fucking barista or something would pay, you know, two and a half grand a year in tax.
[00:04:12] And he was paying 750. It does ridiculous.
[00:04:16] Tommy Jackett: Well, I just heard a tap and I am looking back. So I may be regretting my bird, my bird feeding habits. I'm forming the man. Cause I've got my, yeah, I've got my magpies. I've also established that there's at the front of our property. You say property. It makes it sound really big.
[00:04:38] Do you want to do it yet? Hang on. We've got a parcel.
[00:04:40] Josh Janssen: We've got it. Okay. A bird ego life. Okay. Tommy's just getting it. Has anyone I'm going to ask Tommy if he's seen the, uh, the octopus teacher that, uh, documentary on Netflix. All right. I wonder what the package is [00:05:00] going to be. Hopefully he shares it with us.
[00:05:05] What is that? It is so funny.
[00:05:07] Tommy Jackett: I thought it was a bird pecking.
[00:05:09] Josh Janssen: No, I saw someone walk behind. So that's why I was like, when you said, Oh, we have some issues with the magpies. I thought you'd pissed off the neighbors or something. And they're like, Tommy, stop fading. The fucking magpies.
[00:05:21] Tommy Jackett: No, no, no. There is two huge crows, like big, you know, the big black ones.
[00:05:26] Josh Janssen: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:05:27] Tommy Jackett: Huge ones that get into our bins. Like they, like, I dunno what they're getting. And then I come out and the bloody they're in the sweet, sweet potato dip and pulled it out of the, you know, there's like a little bit left in it and they've pulled it out. And, um, anyway, that was it. A delivery from target.
[00:05:45] Josh Janssen: What are you opening?
[00:05:46] Tommy Jackett: Just this, this, um,
[00:05:49] Josh Janssen: Amy
[00:05:50] Tommy Jackett: Amy's buying stuff. Where's she got knives. What is this?
[00:05:54] Josh Janssen: What is that spoons? What is, Oh, it's just measuring.
[00:06:00] [00:06:00] Tommy Jackett: Yeah, to be honest, I thought it was for me because I'm waiting on a 70 or $90 worth of socks.
[00:06:09] Josh Janssen: Really? It says Amy's name on it. Yeah.
[00:06:13] Tommy Jackett: Yeah. But she does. She usually does my sure.
[00:06:15] Okay. And so she's boy,
[00:06:17] Josh Janssen: how many socks?
[00:06:19] Tommy Jackett: $70 worth or it was 90. I can't remember because I didn't place the order, but I literally have got down to two pairs and because
[00:06:31] Josh Janssen: I got to the end so that the 70 to $90 socks that you've got
[00:06:35] Tommy Jackett: no idea, no idea. Oh, she did. She did say that she, okay. I think, I think they were about 70 bucks a pair.
[00:06:45] Josh Janssen: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Happy socks are quite inexpensive, but you need, I feel like you have to go with you, go through them. Like I haven't done a sock or Andy order in years and I need to, like, I think I need to know
[00:06:58] Tommy Jackett: I've got, sir, [00:07:00] I've got way too many undies and now I just don't have any socks. So I'm nearly back guys.
[00:07:07] I currently am wearing shoes with no socks. That's how fucked it is. I'm on the I'm holding on.
[00:07:12] Josh Janssen: Do you have any salt?
[00:07:14] Tommy Jackett: Yeah, but then they got, they, they, these ones like it's hit and miss, you know, you sometimes find some really good ones and then other times they just die and then they look like Bodie, Bodie, sock.
[00:07:30] Josh Janssen: It's a lot of salt. Have you, um, have you watched the, um, the octopus teacher on Netflix?
[00:07:37] Tommy Jackett: Did George tell you about this?
[00:07:39] Josh Janssen: No.
[00:07:40] Tommy Jackett: George told me about some documentaries. That, is it a doco? Yup. Yeah. Sh he said you will love this doco with birdie.
[00:07:49] Josh Janssen: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
[00:07:51] Tommy Jackett: Okay. So I haven't watched it yet. I was, Oh,
[00:07:54] Josh Janssen: you will.
[00:07:54] You will love it. The octopus teacher. So it's a guy who becomes friends [00:08:00] with an octopus. Real off. Yes. This isn't something
[00:08:07] Tommy Jackett: you've changed.
[00:08:08] Josh Janssen: Changed your tune. It's a documentary.
[00:08:11] Tommy Jackett: Wow. They've very smart. I went to met with this guy who reached out to me and said, um, You know, uh, I'm working in the industry.
[00:08:22] I'm a producer. I'd love to, you know, work with you if I can. And I had no work for him, but I just met up with him. We had a good combo and I got a good, good story out of him. Um, he got nothing out of it to be honest, but he's cruising. That guy was a fucking loser. Anyway, he said that he, you know, that comedian, um, Oh, what's his name?
[00:08:42] Josh Janssen: Tom Barron.
[00:08:44] Tommy Jackett: No, no, no, no. I had a bag car accident. He lives in the States. He's a little dude and
[00:08:52] Josh Janssen: um, Oh
[00:08:54] Tommy Jackett: no, I'll get there. I'll find it. Anyway. He was this guy's personal assistant. [00:09:00] So he lived over in the States and he was his personal assistant and this guy loved. Animals having pets and had all these sort of obscure fucking pets.
[00:09:10] Yeah. And he came to his PA and he said, I want an octopus. I want this type of octopus. And so I don't even know if it was legal for him to own this octopus, but he had to produce it up and source this octopus and get it delivered.
[00:09:31] Josh Janssen: I like how you say
[00:09:31] Tommy Jackett: octopus is an octopus. When do you say octopi? Octopi?
[00:09:36] Is that Martin
[00:09:36] Josh Janssen: and an alpha to dessert
[00:09:37] Tommy Jackett: maybe anyway. So he got, he got this post delivered and it was, it had to be in a container that then was in another container that was in another container that was in a box because these things can get out of anything. I can slide on the doors
[00:09:56] Josh Janssen: there. I feel like once you, once you see this [00:10:00] octopus documentary, You'll then think that that's disgusting.
[00:10:03] Cause I feel like even yesterday walking out and seeing birds, I felt one with the birds. I'm thinking about like, ah, yeah, you're thinking about stuff. And so am I, and we're just all in this together. And it was after watching the octopus teacher
[00:10:17] Tommy Jackett: and so disgusting in the term in terms of keeping an octopus like that in kit,
[00:10:21] Josh Janssen: captain
[00:10:24] Tommy Jackett: they've they're way too smart. What's a dumb
[00:10:28] Josh Janssen: animal. That's okay to having tapped to activity direction. Um,
[00:10:32] Tommy Jackett: well, you can look up animals that, well, they don't th the, the process in their head, isn't one close to the human experience. And so, I don't know, like a, what is it? A goldfish they're forgetting aren't they don't, they forget every five seconds.
[00:10:49] Josh Janssen: Yeah. Tonight. I mean, lots of the, um, the, the brain of the octopus, like it's actual, like, it's thinking capabilities as all in it's, like feeling and stuff is all [00:11:00] in those, like, Suction cup stuff. Interesting.
[00:11:04] Tommy Jackett: Wow. I mean like, um, What is it? What, what is, um, what is Jordan Peterson? Talk about there. Shellfish.
[00:11:11] Josh Janssen: Yeah. It's like, it's the, what's the thing with the neck now. It's nice. It's a, what's it called? What are you a lobster? So lobster
[00:11:19] Tommy Jackett: is a lobster. Ye that you don't eat them much. I eat them every night.
[00:11:26] Josh Janssen: Can I just say lobsters are fucking annoying to wait, like Brie and I, we I'm in Bali. This was going back.
[00:11:34] I reckon maybe must be nine years ago in Bali for my birthday. It must have been like my 21st or something. And, uh, we went to a beach where you sort of sit on the beach, like you have like tables and chairs and stuff, and it's all fresh. Seafood. And if you go into breeze, Instagram account, you'll see. On my 30th birthday, she did a bunch of photos and one [00:12:00] of them is a photo of me and her with a massive cake.
[00:12:06] No, no, that was a massive cake. And it was because, um, it was my birthday that just didn't give a slice. They gave a whole fucking. Cake for my, for my birthday, between brain I'm like, what do I do with this? We ended up sharing it around, but yeah, the loves to thing. I just felt like even at the fancy end, it's just too much, too much work, probably more inclined for like a lobster roll something.
[00:12:29] That's a white bun where they've taken the maid out, put it in mayonnaise.
[00:12:35] Tommy Jackett: I think there's some experience, but who decides on.
[00:12:40] Josh Janssen: The what makes me
[00:12:42] Tommy Jackett: know what becomes like, um, the, you know, the
[00:12:46] Josh Janssen: fancy,
[00:12:47] Tommy Jackett: fancy. Yeah. Like what,
[00:12:49] Josh Janssen: yeah, it's, it's based on like surely how hard it is to get it, but isn't there like a bit of truth in, it's not always the hard things that the best [00:13:00] tasting, right?
[00:13:01] Yeah. Yeah. It's the biggest scam. Well,
[00:13:04] Tommy Jackett: what about, um,
[00:13:05] Josh Janssen: abalone? What, like, what is abalone?
[00:13:08] Tommy Jackett: Abalone, they little shelf shellfish. They stick to rocks. I've caught some before, probably illegal. Um, but they're, they're not, I don't, I didn't think that were that nice. But, um, what about, um, what do you call it? The, the dogs sniff them
[00:13:22] Josh Janssen: out.
[00:13:24] Ah, truffles, truffles.
[00:13:27] Tommy Jackett: Have you had truffle before?
[00:13:28] Josh Janssen: Had it, yeah, like shaved onto something or like a truffle oil.
[00:13:32] Tommy Jackett: Truffle a point, but at that point, do you, do you get it? Like, I don't think I'd get the flavor enough, you know, like you want a mouth full of it. Like
[00:13:43] Josh Janssen: yeah. It's overpowering. I think potentially at that point, because I do wonder, like, what is it like experience wise just to take a bite out of a truffle.
[00:13:51] Tommy Jackett: Yeah. But then at what point is this stuff we're talking about? Just like constructs social constructs around specific [00:14:00] thing. Cause if no one cared. For lobster, it was like, everyone's decided they're yucky. And then lobsters get to live in the sea and aren't fished as much. Or truffle just becomes this, you know, we've worked out that we will finding pieces of shit.
[00:14:17] And this is like, it turns out they fucking lit. Disgusting. Yeah. And then no one wants it.
[00:14:24] Josh Janssen: And so they could start. I mean, there was the strawberry, um, the needle thing that's happened. That's happened again. I think I saw, I started Mame where it's like Adelaide woman finds needles in her strawberries, and then someone's like, Oh, 2020, like.
[00:14:39] Don't do this to us.
[00:14:40] Tommy Jackett: Yeah. I mean, whatever grow that is the biggest Gronk move. Like I it's it's, I mean, that's very annoying. That's at the top putting needles in strawberries and then halfway down is throwing ciggies on the ground. I saw this morning, two, two blokes do it and like,
[00:14:59] Josh Janssen: wow.
[00:15:00] [00:14:59] Tommy Jackett: I'm I did get fired up, but I, I refrain from saying anything I want to.
[00:15:06] Yeah, but then I just sort of get in my head about like, you've you must have given up, like, if you're willing to do that, you must have given up like an octopus is smarter. An octopus wouldn't throw a CD on the ground. You may be walking and talking.
[00:15:22] Josh Janssen: You can mention it, like sell to them.
[00:15:25] Tommy Jackett: Well, one was a guy that worked at a cafe and.
[00:15:30] I made some gestures cafe
[00:15:31] Josh Janssen: that you go to
[00:15:33] Tommy Jackett: close by. I can, I had some judgments and I was like, Oh, I feel a bit sorry for him. And then the other one was just a tradee he's this is the thing we've talked about. Like dobbing people into the, the EPA. And I saw the business that he worked for, like doing that stuff in a, in a truck that is branded.
[00:15:55] Josh Janssen: Yeah, not ideal.
[00:15:56] Tommy Jackett: He's no good like yesterday. [00:16:00] Um, you know, I may, I may get a call from the cops, but yesterday I broke the rules. There's a, um, we went on a walk at lunchtime and. No, I sort of like walk along the highway along the, sort of in the shrub area.
[00:16:14] Josh Janssen: Nice walk along the highway is anyone
[00:16:16] Tommy Jackett: so next to the highway, there's a big shopping area.
[00:16:18] Beautiful. Beautiful. Yeah. Oh, you've got the noisy traffic, but then you've also got this sort of beautiful grassy bushy area and there's a cut back around. And then I have done this before, but it's usually been after hours. I cut into a school. Clearly says private property. Yeah. It says private it's a school.
[00:16:41] There is one section of it though, where the sign says private property beyond this point. And so there's these houses that sort of are on a Hill or a cliff area and they sort of drop off. And so it's like a continuation. You can say, like there's steps down from the houses. And so I think there may be like an [00:17:00] area that isn't private property.
[00:17:03] Sure. So we walk along, we walk along that specific spot, cause it literally feels like you're in the Bush, but you have 15 minutes from the city. It's so good. So good. It's the place where I said that there was a sign that says beware of snakes.
[00:17:19] Josh Janssen: And then did you get told off
[00:17:21] Tommy Jackett: walking along? And then we come up the other side and have to sort of like cut into the school and then jumped the fence.
[00:17:26] And this guy who was mowing the lawns. Said to me, um, stopped his mower and was like looking at us and like, we have our masks on. So you feel like a bit, you know, like you can't know who you are. And he said, um, Oh, what are you doing? I said, Oh, we're just going. We're just going up there. So do you know, this is private property?
[00:17:48] And I said, Oh, but that bit down there, is that not? He said, no, it is. So I've been corrected. It is all from property.
[00:17:55] Josh Janssen: According to him. I mean, the fact that he stopped his moule was a big deal. It was your heart rating racing at that point.
[00:18:00] [00:18:00] Tommy Jackett: Yeah, Amy frozen stopped. I was continuing to walk. It's just like, I was just beelined for the fence.
[00:18:06] Get to go. I mean, it's the most low level thing, just like going for a nice little walk in the, in the shrubs. And then, um, he's like, Oh, you gotta go back. I said, Oh no, I'm just going to up here to jump the fence. And then we left. And then,
[00:18:19] Josh Janssen: so you jumped the fence?
[00:18:20] Tommy Jackett: Yeah, we walked up. It's probably another a hundred
[00:18:22] Josh Janssen: minutes, an easy fence to jump because I would be worried then that.
[00:18:27] You're being watched and you might
[00:18:28] Tommy Jackett: not know he's turned them all back on and kept going. So I don't know. But then what did Amy, Amy samey panicked and she'd stopped in the moment. And then I said, come on, come on. And then she said, you do realize you get your day, the daily talk show tee shirt on
[00:18:46] Josh Janssen: Louis is leveled.
[00:18:48] Isn't it?
[00:18:49] Tommy Jackett: Right. Al Bratton has cut through if he
[00:18:51] Josh Janssen: reports that to the class. I'd appreciate that.
[00:18:53] Tommy Jackett: But there was clearly like my version, if I'm in trouble or like in a situation like that is [00:19:00] just the whole down. Keep going, keep going, keep going. Whereas Amy had the complete responsive stop and wants to talk through it.
[00:19:09] What would you do?
[00:19:10] Josh Janssen: Wait, so did she want to talk through it with the mowing guy?
[00:19:14] Tommy Jackett: Yeah. Well, I did the talking in the end, but she was like, Oh, she would have started, she would have come up with this whole thing or like, you know, Gone into it and apologize what happened to, you know, all of that stuff.
[00:19:26] Josh Janssen: Yeah.
[00:19:26] It depends. What are you doing? Uh, it depends. I think it depends on what the situation is like, what the environment is, where I am in sort of the, the, um, food chain. I think that, so for instance, if it was technical related, I don't know how it could be technical related, but you're
[00:19:45] Tommy Jackett: in uranium.
[00:19:47] Josh Janssen: Yeah. No, I didn't know.
[00:19:49] I feel like potentially outdoors or what or whatever. Um, fuck. What would I do? Because I am likely to do what Amy does sometimes. Definitely. [00:20:00] But then there's other times where I think it's probably confidence of the area. For instance, growing up next to a national park. Yeah, we'll go into fences and do all that sort of stuff all the time.
[00:20:12] And so, uh, but also like cameras, the amount of, um, uh, you know, people that are being told off for having a camera or filming something or shit like that. And so for instance, when remember like, uh, four months ago, I saw this massive car accident and there was all the emergency services there. And I wanted to take photos.
[00:20:34] I was taking photos and Bri was like, absolutely not stop that. And she fucking cracked it. And so I think given that, like, if you look at what I did in that situation, I probably would. Push forward, potentially.
[00:20:50] Tommy Jackett: Yeah. Yeah. And, but it is the feeling that I probably lived in as a kid, you know, like I was entering abandoned places.
[00:20:59] I [00:21:00] was, there was a house at the end of my mind straight and, um, you know, been abandoned for ages, not sort of like. Completely fully a, but like still had old newspapers open and a coffee cup there and we just found it fascinating. And we looked around more digging down the side and fucking lifted this rock up and a bag.
[00:21:22] And in the bag was a couple of Ks. And what do you do? You take the keys and he tries to say, they're the keys to the house. And, and so, you know, at the age of 12, I own my own house.
[00:21:34] Josh Janssen: I also, this is the thing. So I remember when we were moving into our new place, like when I was a kid, And, um, uh, this was an estate that was like, we were one of the first houses to be in the estate, but then there's another section which is sort of an older state.
[00:21:53] Anyway. Mum would go every single day and just check out the block, like if you've ever bought a house [00:22:00] and like built tonight's, I think it's sort of a classic move, like you'd finish school for the day and then would all drive and get excited, like S you know, park the car and look at the, the house and just excited.
[00:22:11] And, um, We were driving. We got there and we see the garage door open and it's a bunch of kids in the garage and mum's in a SS Commodore. And so they're on bikes and they ride off. And so mum chases them like fucking, and so around the corner, all that sort of thing. Yeah, big VA. And we find them. We find them like at another house, out the front and like, We would do, like, I'm sure.
[00:22:47] I was like, really? I was like 11, 12 years old, just like, you know, really, really aggressive. And so these other kids, yeah, because like, I was like such a scaredy cat, like just always worried about I've got this [00:23:00] footage of a, um, there was always, it seems to be a thing with newer States, like shit would get stolen and have just got footage, like my cam quarter.
[00:23:09] Had like a hundred times digital zoom look like shit, but I would just be like, zooming it. There was a property that was probably, it was up on a Hill, probably like 200 meters away from our place. And there was a red van. That looks suspicious. And I would just like sit there for like half an hour, just zoom, like filming the whole, the whole thing.
[00:23:32] But nothing happened. Well, things happened, but I never got the crazy, like I've never caught. Someone like, I would like to, like, I'm sure in the lifetime, you probably, if you're someone who's into cameras and security and all that sort of thing, you can only expect once or twice in a lifetime for that shit to all play, play out.
[00:23:55] Like I've worked at, if someone's at the office triple zero, say our [00:24:00] office address, then get in the car, drive over there.
[00:24:03] Tommy Jackett: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But there's something about that feeling of when you ha now you're being naughty, it doesn't happen as much as an adult. I don't think, I think it's probably happening recently with the lockdowns and people pushing the boundaries and feeling like, Oh, I'm driving beyond my five K's and I might get stopped.
[00:24:20] And so there is, it's not a good place to live in, but you know, on the edge a few times a year
[00:24:27] Josh Janssen: feels good. That's fine. I mean, I, um, I got a phone call from Ben Fordham. I
[00:24:32] Tommy Jackett: has Benny boy.
[00:24:33] Josh Janssen: He's good. He's he wasn't happy with me. He was saying he's like, I can't tell if Tommy was in a bad mood for screenplay Sunday, cause you haven't mentioned it more than three times on the show in the last year dice,
[00:24:50] he said, he said, uh, I had it on. And uh, Jody, Jody is asking, what are they talking about? And it, and he says, he [00:25:00] says, um, You know you with your pseudo self-help actually, there's so much pseudo self-help. He said, uh, you know, you guys are just, you're just making stuff up. And I said, I was quite proud of myself without skipping a beat.
[00:25:14] I said, Matt, isn't that your job at two GB happy with BitSight he think he was, I was like, have you listened to the whole episode? This was yesterday's episode. I said, if you listen to the whole thing, he's like, didn't have still got 15 minutes to go. And so he was going to go off and, and listen to it.
[00:25:31] But there's some feedback from, from Ben Fordham.
[00:25:34] Tommy Jackett: He's listening to which episode he's listening to.
[00:25:36] Josh Janssen: That was yesterday's episode one way we were deconstructing, uh, your mood and all that stuff.
[00:25:43] Tommy Jackett: Okay.
[00:25:44] Josh Janssen: Okay. And so he thought, he thought, I think he thought that me doing that was may still being pissed off about the screenplay Sunday stuff.
[00:25:52] Ah, yeah. He's connecting those dots.
[00:25:54] Tommy Jackett: And is he, is he, uh,
[00:25:56] Josh Janssen: is he under some real look? I don't think, I [00:26:00] don't think so. I just, I just enjoy
[00:26:01] Tommy Jackett: go another half hour. Just if you've got anything else you want to,
[00:26:04] Josh Janssen: while he was saying his point was, he was like, you know, you just think, Oh, I've got the finished talking about it.
[00:26:09] And then you say something like, ah, Uh, but, so what do you think about that? Just bring it back up, which is, which is a classic, uh, Josh Janssen move. I don't, I don't know.
[00:26:22] Tommy Jackett: You know, we are the pseudo self-help guys here.
[00:26:24] Josh Janssen: I'm happy to be the pseudo mate. Someone's gonna help us. Um, uh, anything else on Netflix by the way that your, so I watched, I'm trying to find good docos or things to watch in the evenings breeze just finished selling sunset.
[00:26:40] Tommy Jackett: Oh, I finished it right now. I haven't been, I haven't been into it at all recently. No, nothing. I haven't watched. Well, we don't have a TV in their bedroom anymore, anymore. So it's out in the lounge room. Ah, one thing I did watch and shout out to Dan Wickman, [00:27:00] Gronk, Dan, who edited it, the Kathy Freeman documentary on ABC.
[00:27:04] Watch it. It's on ABC. It's um, It's if your, our age. So you're around 30, even a bit younger, you know, Cathy Freeman running in the 2000 Olympics when
[00:27:19] Josh Janssen: it was remembered that it's like that, that they talk
[00:27:22] Tommy Jackett: about it. They talk about it. They talk about mint and how it came about. And if he's a really great documentary and nostalgic, I think you'll love it based on the nostalgic.
[00:27:31] Oh, great. Amy's crying, you know, and still like back then, you didn't understand how powerful it was for indigenous Australia and what it meant to the community. And just like, it just, it's powerful.
[00:27:45] Josh Janssen: Beard is on ABC.
[00:27:47] Tommy Jackett: I basically, I view yet he can watch it. Kathy Freeman documentary. You could probably watch it overseas.
[00:27:53] Josh Janssen: it could use a VPN. Also, if you've got a VPN in Australia, if you go onto BBCs. Streaming [00:28:00] service Louie through is doing a bit of a series at the moment he's done. I think it's four episodes where he goes through his archives. And, um, so it talks like you sort of at home and he's going through boxes and he's talking about previous things that have happened.
[00:28:15] It's quite good. Yeah. Um, but yeah, the VPN, I think that you can get it through, through doing that
[00:28:21] Tommy Jackett: worth watching guys.
[00:28:23] Josh Janssen: Right. It's a, the daily talk show say tomorrow, guys have a good one.
[00:28:26] Tommy Jackett: Say guys.