#978 – The Fun Of Video Production/
- March 12, 2021
We chat about Matt D’Avella’s latest video about us, how online content is changing, our shoots over the years and filming in schools!
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
- Matt D’Avella’s new video
- How online content may change
- Favourite accounts to follow
- Our shoots over the years
- Filming in schools
- Key moments in our school lives
- The real truth about chasing your dreams.
Check out Matt D’Avella’s latest video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLl8kL3B3a4
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Tommy Jackett: [00:00:00] Very low barrier to get into the drone squad.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:07] We've committed to do the daily talk show for 10 years. Guys.
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:11] Put it in the calendar.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:13] Just like to check the temperature in the room. I told you my squeegee
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:16] story.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:19] Yeah, it's the daily talk show episode 978.
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:23] Happy fat Friday, everybody.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:26] Uh, thank you. Uh, if you're a new viewer as well, or listener coming from the Dave Ella video. Yeah. Just, uh,
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:34] just came out. Yeah. Um, Matt was on the show two weeks ago this day and, uh, and he's finished the video that we're filming on that same day.
I mean, that was a two day shoot. Yeah. That was watching. An absolute magician at work. And
Josh Janssen: [00:00:52] that was great. Well, I think that the thing about Dave, Ella, why I love him, the videos is because he doesn't take himself too seriously. Yeah. It's got the self-deprecation just comedy, but also a bunch of good
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:07] advice.
Um, if your. I mean, if you laughed at that, um, I'm very, very happy, like laughed at the jokes in the video, but we were talking about the sort of difference in humor around the world and self-deprecation is a very Ozzy human trait. And so we love sort of taking the piece is another, I mean, you might even try to work out what taking the pieces if you're American, but just like laughing yourself and you can yourself.
Josh Janssen: [00:01:39] No one else can, well, people
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:40] can. Yeah, but then you're laughing together. That's a
Josh Janssen: [00:01:43] good time then you're the leader. It's like when I was a kid, you know, a fat kid, it was, I was always making the first fat joke because which is a little bit sad. But if you make the first joke, it disarms, it's like you can't use it as ammo anyway, fat
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:59] Fridays just quickly.
So I've seen this a few times driving through I'm driving through McDonald's drive through. And it's, um, mini hotcakes, but then the tele field, I've never tried them. I mean, Oh my are mini brings out real meaning and it's like, we're on a plane. And so I'm glad, I'm glad that we got one serve.
Josh Janssen: [00:02:24] Cause it was perfect.
Tommy Jackett: [00:02:25] Perfect. So I'm just gonna, I just hold this up so I can get a nice little. Well, thanks JV. Um, but yeah. So you like the, you like Matt's video?
Josh Janssen: [00:02:35] Yeah, it was great. Um, yeah. What was the highlight? It was just like, he he's, um, he's great with the interviews, but also, like, I just loved that it was actually like a bit of a collab.
Like we, yeah, we would come up with ideas and some of it, you can see the ideas that like. We were suggesting, cause I don't necessarily make that much sense of the entire video, but they are funny. Um, so this natala thing it's got to, why does McDonald's call them hotcakes and everyone else calls them pancake.
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:08] Um, what is the difference between a hotcake and a pancake or just the size of them usually? Um, Oh no, no, no, no. Cause then I've had, yeah, I've make my own pancakes at home. The size of McDonald's. Hotcakes.
Josh Janssen: [00:03:19] So I'm smelling it. It reminds me the smell reminds me of travel, which tells you that it's highly processed this.
It's got the sogginess of something that's being put into microwave. And you know, I know, I know, I know microwave. Um,
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:36] yeah, look, I'd be disappointed if I got those and I was wanting a good breakfast, you know
Josh Janssen: [00:03:45] what. Perfect for kids. Grateful, grateful for them. Don't anything perfect for kids though. Yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:53] My son would
Josh Janssen: [00:03:54] love them talking about grateful.
Um, it's really hard to, um, think about how much comedy has changed. And I was thinking, so retina link. You know, um, uh, two guys from California, they do great stuff. Good mythical mornings and punches, bunch of 'em shows. I've got
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:14] a, uh, podcast, new podcast. Is it not on you? It's not in you. It's probably
Josh Janssen: [00:04:22] Yeah. Ear biscuit, ear biscuit. That's right. And the idea is it's around the round table of dim lighting of musicality or whatever. But anyway, they're great. They did a whole bit where they, um, they got one of those baseball, um, like automated things, like what we said, freeze like a pitching machine pitching machine, but it was like, hi, high end one.
Yeah. Yeah. And what they were doing, they were putting different shit in it. To see how far it went, like an Apple or an RA. Exactly. But I've got to say that even for a guy that's not necessarily that sensitive to stuff and just understand everything's a joke. A mouse was too much. Yeah, no, I thought. When you say, when you're in a pandemic and you hear what, everything that's happened and poverty and stuff saying people put food that looks fine.
Like, ah, let's put like peppers in there and let's put like, it's like, they went through down the fresh food aisle and used all of that as a, and so I wonder if one day we'll look back in history, it's like, yeah, we're in a pandemic. And then like comedians were like spoiling all these food
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:33] because the.
The, the sort of necessities of life, it's hard to come harder for majority of people to
Josh Janssen: [00:05:41] come by. There's just something about seeing
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:43] the food. Imagine, I guess, where, where the closest thing would be is, um, doing stuff with toilet paper when, when toilet paper. So I think it needs to affect the masses.
Whereas there is a large proportion of the world that doesn't have food, the adequate amount of food or water. It feels like there's more people that are able to get Justin. And so, but when, when you refer in our periphery, but when you start seeing people within your own bubble, start to struggle, that's when I think people will build more empathy.
So the toilet paper thing, would've frustrated me just based on seeing everyone else is complaining. Like I can't get it. And then you say one Gronk, you know, think about toilet paper, toilet paper ring, which I never did buy a house. Like you're like in those college films, it's like a whole house is Kevin Telepo.
You'd be very upset. Um,
Josh Janssen: [00:06:39] but then I also, I understand that they're bringing a bunch of joy and there's a bunch of ways of rationalizing it, but there is in those moments, especially, I guess like places like California, where there's huge amounts of homelessness. Um, I wanted to have that, that would impact content as well, if you're amongst it.
And you're seeing these things, I wonder if. I mean, I think that when people think of Los Angeles, they think of sort of lamp Gainey's shiny objects. I wonder if Matt Davila, I wonder if he biceps. I wonder if the more, uh, the more visible these things are, whether people create empathy or whether there's a disconnect where it's like that's because
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:24] I think, I think maybe people are striving, like maybe someone's mission is to be able to.
Put oranges, fresh food in, in one of those. And so it's like, it's it's, I don't think the, those guys aren't even doing it to say. Um, look, look how much are definitely not, you know, uh, look how much we've got. Yeah, no. And so there is people that do the look, how much I've got when it's cast look at the, look at the people, uh, Floyd money Mayweather, it's in his name, but he just like, literally goes to a hotel room when he's in Paris or something.
And then he takes a photo of the table and it's just got. Uh, you want, uh, Parisian dollars or, you know, um, you Rose, like he's done this with the euros, like seeing hundreds or $500 notes of euros and just like a whole table stacked high. It's a million dollars of cash. Like he, that's what he travels with.
I wonder really Mexican.
Josh Janssen: [00:08:18] I wonder if that stuff is becoming less appealing, like remembered Dan Bilzerian or whatever his name is. Bell's area. Daniel's Erin yet. Yeah. He's um, Is lost
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:30] at all. Did you know that? Has he actually offered,
Josh Janssen: [00:08:33] you know, dad building, it was watching YouTube. There's this one
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:35] guy that's gone after him.
He's like, this might be Russian, but he's like, he was an ex finance sky. And he looks into the books of Dan bills, Erin and saying like, um, because it's a publicly listed company, it has to do all that. So I
Josh Janssen: [00:08:52] think he's maybe he's gone bankrupt or whatever,
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:55] but he. Well, we could, when we were at L E P L P we could see his mansion in the Hollywood Hills and it's like the biggest $160 million giant, but that's the guy.
Yeah. Who was flaunting opulence. It was, um, but I mean, that's what happens.
Josh Janssen: [00:09:12] Yeah. What do you like following on social media? Like what are your favorite accounts?
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:19] YouTube channels. Especially today when a video of your boys drops
Josh Janssen: [00:09:26] and they'll see, like on Instagram, what are you like?
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:30] I can't tell you anything. I actually, sorry. Dom Domato, Dom. I think, let me find his tag. Ozzy dude. He's a, um, basically like a free runner or a park or. Expert gymnast. He's a freak dude.
I absolutely love him. And he's got a huge following. Demato Dom, Dom tomato, Dom tomato. He's not his full name is Dominic. De Tomaso. So Dom tomato, but he is, he's an absolute freak. 1.3 million followers. And they just videos of him doing the free running, like doing Epic flips. I can only just say like crazy flips.
Like he it's like he's out of a James Bond, film running from villains. He's amazing sore
Josh Janssen: [00:10:21] on the joints. Like it would really hurt the joints, anything, but he's fit. It's
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:25] us. Yeah. Anyway, like that's someone I like. And then a lot of, a lot of, um, UFC accounts, like, yeah. Other than that, nothing. Thank you for shit.
Really? It's all a bit boring, to be honest. Yeah. Um, yeah. Today we're on a shoot. It's an early one. We're recording this at six 30 again, 6:30 AM on Friday. It's a real ritual to w w we've been doing film shoots for. Over three years, four years, five years together. How many years now?
Josh Janssen: [00:10:58] Well, I guess what, yeah, our first shoot together.
Well, obviously back in 2010 or whatever we've been filming for 15 years. No, but, um, no, we probably started doing it more regularly. It would have to be, uh, 2016, 20, 2017, I think. Yeah. Yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:16] Yeah. Yeah. One of the, it's almost just like a given that you, you pull into Macker's drive
Josh Janssen: [00:11:22] if there is a bit of a drive.
Yeah. Yeah. When it comes to productions, it's a fun and easy thing. Everyone gets around.
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:33] What's your, what's been your favorite shoot that we've
Josh Janssen: [00:11:36] ever done? Hmm. Yeah. Good question. Because
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:39] I was on, we were filming yesterday and I was telling somebody about how. Just like the random nature of the job. Like every jobs, different it's like when you were, I remember being a landscape architect, mighta wheelbarrows.
My dad was the big Bo big boy
Josh Janssen: [00:11:57] houses, dude.
Tommy Jackett: [00:12:00] Like next level, like, you know, 10, $15 million mansions in Tura in Toorak, in Melbourne, just like pools with mosaics of the person's name at the bottom. Just like amazing. You'd see. It's like you being able to stay in bells. There was he's gone bankrupt though. Um, no, but just seeing.
Uh, another way of living was interesting and that's what you get to do it in all different jobs. You see, you're exposed to sort of different areas in this. We see other businesses, but flying to Singapore and seeing, um, and going on to the I've never been on a cruise ship, but I got to go over and film on a cruise ship that was being renovated.
We seen was a small city. It was phenomenal they've since I think gone on and, um, And, um, had a bit of trouble with the COVID a few people getting,
Josh Janssen: [00:12:53] well, I think, um, uh, for me, because I used to work in the fire brigade. I'm not a firefighter. Uh, I got to do some cool things. I think there's the staff. Well, you getting great access that you normally wouldn't get.
And so, uh, there was a big anti-terror, um, uh, thing that they did where it was like they closed down. So in Melbourne, there's the train loop, the city loop. And so do you remember when that came out? Uh, no, I don't. I, the thing is that when I was a kid, like trains were really a thing, like a train I went on, like that's how old, not that like, as in like going, like living in the suburbs or whatever you drive, drive drive, you wouldn't go.
If you're going into the city, the only car park when you was crown. You know, like I just assumed that there was no other parking in the city. Cause you go to the crown casino, dude. I remember
Tommy Jackett: [00:13:48] seeing that car crash, crown car Packers and lines of cars for ages on a Friday night. So when did the city, when did the city loop happen?
Yeah. Good question. But I remember you going early days of it. But it's amazing that we didn't like that city loop Melbourne. Cause they're doing all the tunnels in Melbourne at the moment. Like they building a new train tunnel, but then they're also building, um, new like roads, uh, underneath some rivers and stuff.
It's, it's amazing, but it'll be interesting for the first time these open. And so it's ah, commenced in 1971 completed in 1985. CD loop.
Josh Janssen: [00:14:33] So, you know, it's always been that's
Tommy Jackett: [00:14:34] that's a long time. It felt maybe it was just new because it was new
Josh Janssen: [00:14:38] to me. Do you know the city city link, which is like a, um, a freeway or whatever.
I remember when that first came, like when the Burnley tunnel first came, that was a big one, but he bridge. I don't remember the Bolty bridge yet, but, um, yeah. So the favorite shirt, antiterrorism drill old. So Fierys ambulance police, 3:00 AM in the city loop on the tracks, uh, simulated terror attack where, um, actors had all blood on them and all that sort of thing.
And yeah, and it was so we were filming it, but it wasn't designed. For us, it was designed for, uh, all of the emergency services to work out. Okay. How do we get people off characters? How do we deal at a, we do first aid and all that sort of thing in these extreme circumstances. So you've got actors screaming, like there's just, there's a bomb has gone off.
Tommy Jackett: [00:15:33] Dude, was it dark? Did it like, I don't know, it's acting and, you know, you're there for a reason. Like,
Josh Janssen: [00:15:38] I mean, I, I didn't, I wasn't Mike filming too, too much of like the really extreme shit. I was more like, um, operational stuff. So, so I spend a lot of my time, like where they sort of set up, they have buses and stuff that in these types of incidents, they can, um, bring them in and they become these control centers.
And so, Oh, wow. They can manage everything from there. So think of like a, uh, a control room that you would see in an office. They actually just, they have, they have a whole bus that has all that sort of stuff, which is, and so then they'd have like an officer in charge and all that sort of thing. And so I was doing a lot of the filming of them directing.
Type of thing. So, yeah, that
Tommy Jackett: [00:16:24] was interesting. Yeah. There's something about access to places that you, that you normally don't even just like at co think about concert venues, where there's strict places, you can't walk, but being in those big, big arenas or underneath something, there's something about underground town.
Josh Janssen: [00:16:40] Yeah. The other one was, um, DP world, uh, on, in Docklands Docklands. It's M
Tommy Jackett: [00:16:48] a D P
Josh Janssen: [00:16:50] Stanford. Not sure, but it's a B, so they would manage the port or they had the rights to the port, um, where the, they have, you know, the big cranes that take the cargo ships. And so I was making a documentary for the high angle rescue team for the fiber gate.
And so you basically, you go up really high to the top of these cranes and you're walking. On just like metal, uh, metal, but it's like honeycomb style. So you can see through it. That was really scary. Actually. The other one was, um, on the top of Telstra slash like Sofitel or whatever. I think the Telstra building might've been next to this, off the towel, but we got roof access.
And so filming on the top of the roof was called
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:39] that's right. Where you in it to the top of the Eureka tower, the tallest building in Melbourne. Um, with Matt Tilley are really for, uh, some sort of vacation working at the radio station. Amazing. Yeah. It's like, you're not, no one goes up there other
Josh Janssen: [00:17:54] than staff, any good celebrity, any good celebrity, uh, celebrities that you filmed?
Tommy Jackett: [00:18:00] Um, we did, um, we did, uh, what, what were those five seconds of summer? Those five sauce bar sauce. That was good, but I filmed them personally. Um, At the radio station, getting them to talk as, you know, directing them, say this, say this, that was fun. Nice guys. Very fun.
Josh Janssen: [00:18:21] Actually. Do you know what I love is when you're filming for overseas people, uh, filming Australia for an overseas audience, or like when you are.
Um, sort of alongside. So for instance, I'm Josh and Ryan, the minimalists, like time to Australia and New Zealand, and I was filming all the B roll of them in different parts of the country. And there's something interesting about being behind the scenes and then filming. Australians out in the wild, it sort of changes your perspective on things or their animals.
Well, it's usually just seeing people lining up. Um, but that was also calling Auckland, um, filming, uh, when Josh and Ryan interviewed Derek Sivers, Derek Sivers is, is, um, the guy that we spoke about the other day. Who's got hell yes or no. And, um, It just saying people and like, they quite like, especially any behind the scenes where you're saying people not on is cool.
Yeah. I love that. Um, but yeah, I think that is like, it's definitely the, the camera stuff, like even think about the shoots that we're being on. Like we're being schools and stuff. Like there is a, um, there's something fun about. You're creating an energy or you bring it. Like, I feel it's like when you're a kid and there's a dog in the school, it
Tommy Jackett: [00:19:51] was my dog.
It ran out. I was, I lived across the road. He would run across the road and just eat plastic bags with food in them. And then she'd have plastic
Josh Janssen: [00:20:00] bags. Yeah. But it's a big thing, right? Like people would, everyone's like there's dogs. True. And so having a camera crew, like the amount of like having been in a bunch of schools this week, Kids pointing or
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:15] it's with it still like that.
Cause there's cameras. And for you at now, like people got phones, I guess when they're big, like the ones where you hold. What'd you got, you got laser-focus what'd you cost how much he costs. He keeps a siphon. I've shaved my bead. Um, mainly because of this criticism that I got from one kid, but, uh, this, this young girl, she would have been grade six dislike.
So curious about what's going on, hanging around, just looking at me. She just says, you're going great. And you'd be. What all the ag? Nah, I was like, I can, I was thinking about that. You got my kids. Just know it. If I can meet down, just push
Josh Janssen: [00:20:56] the button now it, yeah. But there is, I think, um, something about small crews as well.
What other, like, there's probably a bunch of occupations. The same thing happens on it. Like my brother, Jake, who does like polished concrete and things like that, you become. Uh, friendly, like there's, there's sort of a banter that happens with everyone on the, on the work site.
Tommy Jackett: [00:21:18] Oh yeah. The best way is like, um, like my dad would tell me, like, he was, Oh, I'm working on this person's house.
Like some, someone that he knew, Mark Holden, Australia idol back in the day. Yeah, that is cool. That kind of stuff. What's Mark Holden up to. No. You got a great guy though, because
Josh Janssen: [00:21:36] my dad did it, but you know, there is the camaraderie. Well, I think that that's the other thing working on shoots, especially if it's a multi-day shoot, if you're doing like more than two days.
You become really close with everyone that's involved because you are literally like you have a very small lunch break or your in the car, you're traveling. There's a bunch of downtime on sets because you're waiting for people. And so you're talking, but I think that that is something that's. Really cool about what we do is we get to like you going into these corporate offices or you're going into these, you know, interesting businesses.
And then people are sort of forced to hang out and talk. Yeah,
Tommy Jackett: [00:22:20] no, it is good. But then I also like hanging around people that do different things is like, uh, outside of your echo chamber, think about your mates. They've all got something. Maybe similar, like maybe they're in different, but then you like, your friendship is, is the bubble.
Right? And so you've got all those commonalities that you share, but then when you are in front of people that you don't know and they're in industries that you're not in you really? I mean, you constantly, I. This is what we're saying in the Mac D of Ella video. We're projecting our own version of success because I necessarily wouldn't want to be a teacher.
Like I wouldn't want to be a PE teacher, but then you can look at these people and think, fuck how hard it is for them based on how hard you'd think it is. But then that's there every day and how much effort they're putting in and what they're doing for the world. And so it's really nice seeing other people.
Josh Janssen: [00:23:16] find their passion. Yeah. A hundred percent. But also I think the other thing too, is what I've discovered is from a teaching perspective. So we're, we did both, we did extremes, so primary school, young kids, and then sort of tertiary older students that are learning like creative things. I find that really the creative thing, I was like, Oh, I could actually imagine, like, you can see like Wayne students, uh, six dang, seven, eight, it tanked like this.
So receptive from a creative, like they've got, you can say it in like the way that they dress. They're sort of. This such a need to express themselves. And so creatively, like it's, everything is amplified and obvious if you think about it, right? Like it's it's um, and maybe part of it is like going to a school that's like creative 100%.
It's like, like everyone was like, they were all such individ. That was really cool.
Tommy Jackett: [00:24:18] I mean, we've seen hundreds of them. Kids over the last couple of days while we're filming at these schools and you see like, it's, it's such an interesting thing to look at and think about all the personalities that everyone's got.
One everyone's their own version unique in some way. Similarities of course, but there's like just, you know, one might be timid. One might be out there. One might, it's an all, all just an expression of themselves. And the thing is about kids. They don't know necessarily. And even adults, but we don't as you, when you were a kid, you don't know what you don't know.
And so you just. Reactive and responsive. And instead of feeling, it's like, ah, like they're just little animal and talk
Josh Janssen: [00:25:02] about self-awareness then not like they're purely, they're just, they're instinctively doing stuff that they have. No, they're not. Comprehending. I don't know why I'm doing this, but I'm jumping in front of camera and I'm making faces.
Tommy Jackett: [00:25:14] It's, it's amazing. It's so naive. And I
Josh Janssen: [00:25:18] think when you were looking, uh, you know, especially like the younger kids and you think about Bodhi and, and, um, you think about like, you know, your daughter that's on the way. What do you like, do you reflect on. It's not going to be that long until my kids are doing this.
Exactly. It's a bit like a hundred
Tommy Jackett: [00:25:36] percent in a school or jet where the primary school that we'll filming Jess, our GM was saying she doesn't find them cute. Sorry not, but I get that. Yeah. The only reason I'm finding the cuteness in a lot of these kids is because I'm seeing my son, like I said, you know, you just see the innocence of your child.
And you're seeing another kid who is a little bit older and. I just look at these, like, think about me as a kid. This is a technique in meditation to gain more empathy for yourself because a lot of people find it hard to love themselves.
Josh Janssen: [00:26:13] And the reason just in find a kid was because they were fucking with the schedule.
Tommy Jackett: [00:26:18] one teacher in the sheet during the shift. So thinking about yourself as a child and you can have a bit more kindness. It's a good trick to sort of just think about that kid that you once were and, and, um, and, and how someone would have viewed you and what you would have wanted for that young version of yourself.
It's like, it's a really nice tool, but seeing these kids and understanding Jess's side, but then I'm only coming from looking at my son and thinking, fuck, he will be here. He'll be at school here next year. Wow. Prep. That's crazy. Isn't it? Unbelievable. And then, then thinking about all the things he's going to have to navigate, seeing these little kids, just like, you know, so nice or uniform and thing, you know, just, it's all new, it's all new and they've got heaps of life ahead of them.
Um, yeah. And then
Josh Janssen: [00:27:07] thinking about things like, um, uh, what happened last year with lockdowns and things like, you know, them trying to understand. That this is what's happening. Like if you think about it, there's, there's key moments in our school lives that we really remember things like nine 11 that just stick like the school and the teacher wheeling in.
A TV, like something that's, that's so historic, um, uh, for us that the teachers would actually bring in a TV and would watch live news. Like isn't that
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:44] crazy that I had, that we had a TV maps on the whole it's fucking heavy box TV, but, um, they nice. It was nice Foxtel. No, I wasn't at home. It was at school, but I remember, I remember that corner.
Who's got Foxtel at this
Josh Janssen: [00:28:01] school. I thought that given the school
Tommy Jackett: [00:28:05] yeah, that'd be amazing. I mean, you're not really watching anything other than what they tell you.
Josh Janssen: [00:28:10] Yeah. The library, I think actually had Foxtel my school. Yeah. Like, because they would. But it was all behind closed doors where they would VHS tapes and that would record stuff.
So it's like, if you want to do something recorded that, put it in. It's like behind the news BTN average.
Tommy Jackett: [00:28:25] But I remember seeing people jumping out of the buildings and they had to turn off one kid left the room, but I was like amazed that they fucking allowed. I don't think anyone knew what was happening.
And so the teachers are putting it on. I'm thinking let's have a look. Yeah, next minute. They're showing that shit.
Josh Janssen: [00:28:41] It's the equivalent of being like, there's been a car crash outside guys. It's all go have a quick, let's say what we can learn about the human experience and why does that man not have a head?
You know, it's pretty dark, isn't it? It's probably learnt a lot since then. But
Tommy Jackett: [00:28:57] like, I mean, I don't look at that as like, I bet none. It's like, wow, what a time? It really cemented. If it didn't sort of have all those things happening, kid leaving the room, crying. It's key to add more empathy than I did. I don't know what I was thinking.
What the bloody hell?
Josh Janssen: [00:29:13] Well, I think it felt so disconnected, especially being in Melbourne and it's like the majority of kids hadn't been to New York, the twin towers. They were a movie set for us. It wasn't, we didn't connect. I can now obviously it would be a very different case where it's like, Oh, we can connect it up.
Like what it means for the economy. But I couldn't add it. Like we just knew that something happened, happened. Yeah. Felt like New York felt like a really far way away from us. Whereas I think if something happened and you know, as things happen now in the world, you feel the impact because you say.
Because you have the reference point, Oh, that airline have flown or this or that, or, um, and so the, the interesting thing is that to go full circle, it is that empathy thing. You think about the food thing with written link. It's like, you only know what, you know, when you only know the experience that you have.
So there's a time where it's like, for most people it's probably food, isn't a problem. And so saying that doesn't provide any level of, um, pushback in their mind or any sort of negative thoughts. Whereas as we go on, it's like, Oh, hang on. Like, this is why I think travel is such a great way of building empathy.
And I wonder if, say where I worry about with. Things that are happening now. And things like vaccines. And like, it, it becomes very sort of nationalistic, which is protect ourselves, which I completely get, but hopefully we can protect ourselves being our community while still thinking about the other people around us, you know, outside of.
At board because the board is sort of just these made up fucking things. Right? What does it all mean river? Yep. I can drive over emotions and stuff. Uh, great. Uh, well
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:05] go. Um, if you haven't watched it, uh, Matt D Velez YouTube channel, just type his name. You'll say it. That's the video called? Uh,
Josh Janssen: [00:31:13] it's called, uh, Chasing your dream, the reality of chasing your dreams,
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:18] maybe it's called the real truth.
Truth about chasing your dreams with Scotty Pippin and Jordan.
Josh Janssen: [00:31:26] So
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:27] well, Matt, you cut to me when you said so are you happy with that? All right. I'm all good. I'm all good.
Josh Janssen: [00:31:35] Do you know who I am? I'm Dennis, Dennis,
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:38] Dennis Dennis was
Josh Janssen: [00:31:41] stylish. Well, you don't think I
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:43] can be Dennis you're outrageous. Dennis was outrageous, but stylish, like he knew fashion back then and was pushing the boundaries of it.
But he also was just. He was amongst it, like he was a trendsetter.
Josh Janssen: [00:31:58] Who's the who's out of you. Me, George and Jess. Who's the most likely person to become friends with Kim Jong-un. Ah, it's probably George to be . I'm just doing a few edits mate. That's propaganda. Uh, enjoy the rest of your day guys. And we'll see on Monday, have a good one there.
Tommy Jackett: [00:32:20] guys.