Josh Janssen: [00:00:00] It's the daily talk show episode 901
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:07] happy Monday Gronk. So what's happening. What's going on? How
Josh Janssen: [00:00:12] we are doing the episode later than usual. Normally we do it in the morning around eight 30. Uh,
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:19] 21st birthday went
Josh Janssen: [00:00:20] wild. Yeah. Very, very crazy. Very crazy. I mean, how do you feel, uh, for someone who doesn't drink going to these types of events?
Because I spent the first 28 years of my life being the guy who was sober and had to watch everyone. Uh, what's the experience for you as the sober guy at a party where people are drinking?
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:42] Oh, I mean, it's um, that was okay. Parks had different it's it's the bars that I don't get around with the drinking when you're not drinking, but the packs are nice.
The only issue was, uh, yesterday was the 1st of November. Um, first day of may not having coffee and I made that the biggest pussy ever, but I had the worst headache by the end of the day. And I reckon it comes down to having no coffee drinking.
Josh Janssen: [00:01:11] Yeah. Yeah, I think so.
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:14] I, so it was, it started coming on while at the park and I even made you a drink.
I actually got around that. I was like, ah, fuck up Paul. I was free pouring you. You didn't even see it. I was breeze like, can you, can you,
Josh Janssen: [00:01:25] you saw it and I didn't see
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:27] it free pouring you a gin.
Josh Janssen: [00:01:29] Appreciate it.
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:30] Checked in some sort of lines. Got you. Going, got your fight up. But by the time I left, I had this headache and the time I got home, I had to lie down.
I almost spewed that's how bad it was. You know, when you, you know, when you've got like, it's feels like I need a massage in the lambs thing. Oh, no. Not like that. Like you need it. It's the exact same feeling I have when I have a bad, bad hangover. My head just gets horrible.
Josh Janssen: [00:01:58] Don't you think it's the same thing though, that you would get, if you, um, have some stroke, same sort of feeling?
Tommy Jackett: [00:02:05] Uh, I mean, I was just in a world of pain. It was fucked. And so do you know what I had to do? Had to have a cup of tea. I was like, I've got to drink smart, get some caffeine. Somehow I was you, you inspired me to go and zero caffeine. And I was like, Oh fuck. I just had coffee. I've got to just have some caffeine now.
And so anyway, I've had 27 cups of coffee, cups of tea to that, and I haven't. But, um, I'm feeling much better today, but I'll, I just ju I just had to look at some of the symptoms. So headache is one of them, fatigue, difficulty concentrating, depressed mood. It's going to do the opposite to what I wanted, what I wanted to do.
Josh Janssen: [00:02:48] So do you, do you think that it's sort of going to wane off it and then you'll all of a sudden feel better?
Tommy Jackett: [00:02:54] Well, I'm just going to stay with having a couple of cups of tea die to, to, if anything, it's just for my mind thinking I'm having some,
Josh Janssen: [00:03:02] and so you didn't have any tea yesterday
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:05] until like 2:30 PM, but I don't feel the reason I came off it, which I told you, I haven't had that same feeling of when I have a coffee in the morning and I get a bit.
It's a bit freaky in my system. Um,
Josh Janssen: [00:03:20] yeah, I mean, it was a, it was a shock to the system. I think for everyone, this is, you know, the first is it the first weekend or is, it feels like the first proper weekend where we're really transitioned out of the lockdown. And so the parks, we went to Edinburgh gardens.
If you haven't listened to the, to the episode, it was hectic. There was, I've never had to, I can count on one hand how many times I've had to line up. For a toilet anywhere that's concerts, bars, whatever you want to, you know, all the different things I, to line up to peace.
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:55] Well, they've even put in
Josh Janssen: [00:03:57] more
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:58] like a portable public toilets in the parks.
That's how crazy it's getting. But how's the chances of my brother being 40 meters from us having a picnic with his friends. And we had no idea that we were, he was going to be there. I didn't tell him that I was going there. And then, and, and we live, you know, 15, 20 minutes drive from that location.
Josh Janssen: [00:04:21] Well, I feel like.
The likelihood is probably high. Cause I reckon most bank though.
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:28] Well, that's based on having kids and his kids weren't there. So it was like a special occasion. He dropped them off at these, uh, at, at, um, the grandparents and he, uh, went to the park and so back in the day, yes, like I would bump into him because loose units congregate in the similar areas of other loose units.
Yeah. And so. But we're not losing units anymore. We're not responsible adults, full units
Josh Janssen: [00:04:56] on the portal thing. Uh, last night at around, I'd say 3:00 AM I, uh, I heard some, uh, CAS getting a little bit, so turning the corner near our place and I'm, uh, I'm quick on things. And so I could hear sirens from a really far way away, like, you know, suburbs away.
Um, and so I was like, okay, this is a police chase or something. And I went to get up and embrace it of like just, uh, you know, put a, um, on me said, don't get up. Just, just stay where I'm at. Then
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:30] put the gun down.
Josh Janssen: [00:05:32] Then the sirens got louder and then more sirens and more sirens and more sirens there ended up being.
Six emergency service vehicles out the front of our place, or just a straight, straight away. And we could see it all from the balcony. There was a, um, there was a structure fire. And, uh, and so there were, yeah, there were a lot of, uh, emergency services out, but you just, when you get woken up at 3:00 AM, You don't know what it is.
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:03] Yeah. I saw those stories come through and I are going to give him more credit. Now you've got to, you got to put the timestamp on that son because I just, I thought I was like, Oh, that must be like 6:00 PM or something last night. Or like, you know, 8:00 PM when it got dark, where are you going to? That was at 3:00 AM.
Josh Janssen: [00:06:19] Yeah, that was a 3:00 AM. And then the reason I bring up the portaloos was, I don't know if this is a thing or not. But, uh, I couldn't get back to sleep. Then I just stayed up and I was, um, watching, uh, the road and I saw a truck arrive with a portaloo and the question that I want to know, I don't know the answer.
Do they have portaloos for, uh, firefighters or any other emergency services? If they have to stay fighting something for awhile?
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:54] Great question. I don't know the answer, but I, but I know that sometimes that, like, for instance, remember when the house burnt down next to me and I was out there with the garden hose, like a real idiot, um, that I had to stay around for ages because even though the fire's out
Josh Janssen: [00:07:11] investigation as well.
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:12] Oh, it's, it goes on and on. And so. So th th that was a specific, who did it look like? Uh, a P uh, a police or, you know, fire car that had dropped it off or was
Josh Janssen: [00:07:27] it just looked like a, it just looked like a training, but then the story that I told myself, and I worked at the fire brigade, so I should know this, I don't, but I was thinking, but it is also very unionized.
So I could imagine it's like over half an hour, bring a toilet type of thing, but, um, but, uh, No, I, what was I going to say? Well, delusional TJ, I woke up with rain.
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:54] There is a just near my place, this small fenced off area, probably four meters by four meters. This is like five minutes by five minutes, just like this tiny area with a machine in it.
And it must be doing something like digging something into the ground, just like straight down. And it's just got this one machine. That takes up half of it. And then in the corner is a Porter lo Porter porta-potty. And so it must be, just be like, look you Gronk, can't be pissing over on the trees over there.
You just go, we've got your toilet. I mean, maybe now you can't like, you can't be going in knocking on places or like in terms of using other people's toilets. I couldn't imagine a fire.
Josh Janssen: [00:08:35] What I was thinking was like, if it was a tradie or, you know, just, uh, a service. Yeah, what the deal is, whether they have a phone number and then one of the fireys has to call.
I just thought it was, uh, an interesting concept. I was thinking, I wonder what other, cause it's like, uh, uh, like private businesses, like at cleaners when, when there's fire damage or something has to happen, someone has to go and clean it up. Right. And so there's, there's this industry around the emergency services, which is like, Like who cleans that?
Like, if there was a, a murder, they do the forensic bit. So they, like, they take all the, all the staff, the body. But then, is it just a cleaner that does the blood and stuff?
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:21] Oh, I don't know. That's a dark question. There was Theo Vaughn. He's got a podcast this last weekend and he had a guy on who is works in this small town and basically is the person that goes and collects the bodies.
And so something goes down, the people come and declare what kind of death it was. And then this boat rocks in and. Comes and collects the bodies, but he said that he's had to come in and collect like 400, 500 pound bodies before has to get reinforcement. But that business is working around the clock.
Like it's a private business and he's, and he's working around the clock. He's on call.
Josh Janssen: [00:10:03] Well, this reality shows about this stuff. Now there's a reality show based it at a morgue.
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:08] Oh geez. Did I show real? The shower,
Josh Janssen: [00:10:12] maybe it's just sort of, it's, it's sort of, uh, filmed. Like I like the pawn shop shows, you know, where they, where they, where they, um, do secondhand
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:23] things like that.
Josh Janssen: [00:10:25] Yeah. It's, it's it's film like that.
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:27] Wow. I, um, I went to my, so my auntie used to work at a funeral pallor and. At the funeral policy, they have bodies there that are ready for going off to a, um, a funeral. And I remember as a kid going into the cold room, like, seriously, I can't, my, my, my memory is very vivid.
But then I don't know how much I trust old memories like this. Like, I'm not sure, like I have to, I'd have to speak to her about it, but I can, I can definitely corroborate my w
Josh Janssen: [00:11:05] Cole.
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:09] all the white by whale bounds.
Like I was, their mom did take me there. My auntie did work there and supposedly there was bodies there, but I remember walking in to this cold area where there was two bodies and I saw them as a kid and I
Josh Janssen: [00:11:26] was full full-on for so long. You don't know if it's true or not? Well,
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:31] I would like, I only brought that up because it's like, there's such old memories that I don't know how much Mayo my mind has put on something.
Like, did I see it from outside of a window? Looking in, like, in my mind I was in there. I walked in. I was like, I could see the, the two bodies and. It's like, yeah, it was definitely a thing, but I just, I should con confirm with my auntie, if she'd let me actually she's her memory is probably like, fuck, he can't let kids into say the dead bodies.
Yeah.
Josh Janssen: [00:12:01] 2020 answer. Definitely. Oh,
Tommy Jackett: [00:12:04] absolutely not. This is the same auntie that also bought me a bird that a budgie and my dad opened the front door and said, absolutely not. Their budget is going back.
Josh Janssen: [00:12:13] That was for your birthday.
Tommy Jackett: [00:12:15] That was for my birthday. So, you know, she brings the goods. My auntie that shows me dead bodies buys me buggies.
Josh Janssen: [00:12:21] I mean, where are you at with your, um, your chickens talking about birds?
Tommy Jackett: [00:12:25] Yeah, that's next stage chickens. So the garage is in next stage chicken. Yeah, sorry. Sorry. Shit. Yeah. And, um, and
Josh Janssen: [00:12:34] so it's just semantics, but I feel like there's a difference.
Tommy Jackett: [00:12:38] You could park your car in a garage. In my shed. You can park
Josh Janssen: [00:12:41] a mower,
Tommy Jackett: [00:12:42] a small mower and imagine, uh, nah, door's not big enough.
You can, you can cut it open, get it in, but then you won't be able to close it,
Josh Janssen: [00:12:51] gender, getting a, uh, any money back on the issue.
Tommy Jackett: [00:12:56] No. Well, the, um, the shed came and one of the panels was too long. And so it was a packing problem. And we ended up using a grinder to just cut the panel to be the size that it needed to be.
But no, I called them and couldn't get through. And then, then I hung up. And then I had forgotten about it. Okay. It's too much. I gave them, my brother actually asked me that over the weekend. I said, yeah, but I just went to town on them, on the podcast. It's about the same, isn't it. They weren't going to do anything.
Josh Janssen: [00:13:29] Yeah. I mean, it's, it reminds me of, um, uh, brain, I ordering dinner and we have used the, um, you know, Uber rates they'll do a free delivery, but the way free delivery works is that it is getting attached onto someone else's order. Right. So someone's time for it. I think that's how it works. And this is what Brian's saying anyway, and this is what she's telling me.
This is why she's pissed off because we paid for delivery for place. It was sort of further out, you know, it's not like, you know, paid the fob four 99 or whatever it was. And I'm a free loader jumped on out order, but they delivered to the freeloader first. And so Bree's feedback on it. Ease. Why should you be impacted when you're paying for the delivery?
It's not on.
Tommy Jackett: [00:14:20] Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. There's just a few wires, wires crossed there. Apps have bloody lonely. That's pissing me off
Josh Janssen: [00:14:30] and I don't even order rhubarb. Um, so that's something
Tommy Jackett: [00:14:35] you were up this morning at three. What did you actually not go back to sleep? Have you not slept?
Josh Janssen: [00:14:40] No, I, um, well, cause I was, I had my alarm for five, uh, for an editing thing that I'm doing.
And so I did go back into bed. I had an audio book. And then by four 30, when I wasn't asleep, I was like, Yeah, this is, this is not happening.
Tommy Jackett: [00:14:57] Absolutely. Yeah. You just got to get up and so well, this morning I had a, um, I didn't have to get up that early. Uh, but I did have a parent teacher interview before, um, before work started.
Really? This was, yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, they seem to be doing it
Josh Janssen: [00:15:15] and it Bodie sort of fucked up
Tommy Jackett: [00:15:19] unless they made it out. That it was for everyone. It was just for Bharti. No, no, no. At daycare they have like a section where you could get your first in best dressed of time slot that you wanted for the kids. I think it's because the kids have been at home through COVID and so they've left a bunch of learning hours and so they, they ended up.
Talking about, you know, what's been happening at home learning at home, but yeah, I could, I was thinking, fuck. I remember, as a kid, PE teacher, parent interview, did you ever,
Josh Janssen: [00:15:52] I mean, they were pretty good, like, because I was mates with, uh, all the teachers, but it was almost like
Tommy Jackett: [00:16:01] they picked you up from their house.
Exactly,
Josh Janssen: [00:16:03] exactly. Uh, no, but it, it, it almost felt like. When your parents, uh, chatting to your mates when you're a little bit like our dynamic don't embarrass me, but, um, yeah. I just remember my mom being very sort of, um, whenever they would say something nice. She would say, um, you should say what he's like at home that was sort of the Jesus only, he was this nice at home.
Uh, that, that was sort of the vibe. What about with you with a parent-teacher?
Tommy Jackett: [00:16:38] Yeah. Well, I, I mean, I think I just kind of tried to avoid any thought about them. I must've just been like out if anything, it was a good time because mom had to go out across the road to the school when, so I had the fridge free house, you know, all the parents went there.
Josh Janssen: [00:16:51] No, I think we sat in on them.
Tommy Jackett: [00:16:56] Fuck. I can't remember that.
Josh Janssen: [00:16:58] Yeah. Cause you sit on there cause it's sort of like, um, you know, Josh is doing well, blah, blah, blah. Don't you think? Like, what do you think Josh? You could be improving on them.
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:07] I actually cannot remember doing one. If anything, I remember just burning around the school while it was happening, but I mean, this one was no birdie.
So this morning was, you know, he wasn't there. And so it was, I mean, it's you definitely, as a parent on the back foot. Ready, ready to jab you just looking for any moment. Of putting my, putting your head down. You just, you just get a Jap.
Josh Janssen: [00:17:35] I think that that's probably coming from your experience. Cause I, yeah, I think, um, Yeah, you're probably projecting pretty hard.
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:46] 100%. I gloves boxing gloves on. She said, well, what's that?
Josh Janssen: [00:17:50] And so what did you,
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:51] what'd you think it was all good, but it just, um, it is funny cause it does bring back memories of schooling. And just around that sort of feedback you get from teachers, or, you know, if you had RJ, I remember more, my mom coffee.
Josh Janssen: [00:18:08] And I didn't have coffee would have been a delight. So, um, what sort of things do they say? What, what sort of things do they say?
Tommy Jackett: [00:18:16] Oh, I mean, there's, there's five different areas of a kids sort of learning that they focus on. Can't remember the five, but it was, I just sort of, I was actually curious to see how they structured a three-year-old's parent teacher interview, to be honest.
And so it's just little things like, um, you know, accounting is, it seems so silly, but even little things like, um, uh, looking at number plates and like, CA can you tell what number or letter that is like those little fun games that they're sort of wanting you to play at home. But, um, I do
Josh Janssen: [00:18:53] that at home, like at home.
Do you do counting and stuff like that? Like, is that a thing.
Tommy Jackett: [00:19:00] See, this is where you start feeling guilty because if we don't structure time to do things like that, you end up just being like cat your fingers, mate, how old are you? And he just holds up his fingers and then count them out for me. And so you constantly wanting them to count, say, they're, you know, say when's their birthday.
Like. Uh, it's more for entertainment value. If anything, it's good for their education, but when you can watch your kids spell his name and he's three B O D H I it's like, fuck. Yeah. And, but it's all that is at all. But when they talk to you, it's like, it sounds like, Oh, you meant to be structuring this time to be doing accounting or something.
So
Josh Janssen: [00:19:43] they communicate that outside of. The interview, like the,
Tommy Jackett: [00:19:48] the chat just, yeah, there's just, it seems like what we're doing without it being structured seems to be okay. And he's not, he's not falling behind
Josh Janssen: [00:19:59] any science, any sort of any learnings.
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:02] Oh, um, that's, you know, there's always going to be problems connecting to zoom
Josh Janssen: [00:20:09] because
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:10] we spent the first five minutes.
Hello. Can you hear me whose end was that it was her end. I was very thankful that it wasn't mine.
Josh Janssen: [00:20:20] Did you change your name or what was your name as
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:23] I signed in from my personal account. So it was Tommy rather than just the big Beatty accompany,
Josh Janssen: [00:20:29] not
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:31] vibing. What's going on. Um, are you, I mean, you are yesterday at the, um, at the picnic.
Bree had mentioned one of your subscriptions. 60 bucks a month. Uh, what ma what is this?
Josh Janssen: [00:20:46] Uh, yeah, uh, YouTube TV, which gives me it's the U S one, which gives me all the CNN Fox news all for the, um, for the election.
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:56] This one, I was going to say as Al correspondent for the, uh, the U S election. What's going on, break it down for me with two days out.
Josh Janssen: [00:21:04] I haven't been watching it because I've been doing editing and stuff. I, I think, um, With the little things I was saying, it's not looking great. The U S at the moment with the, when you see the headlines travel warnings about going there about civil unrest. You don't want to hear that.
Tommy Jackett: [00:21:24] I mean, the disturbing sites that just the boarding up of Walmarts and targets in Santa Monica, they're boarding up windows.
And I mean, it's, it's better, better to be safe than, sorry, I guess you don't want your windows broken again, but then you're thinking about the reality of why people would be doing it post election. Like that's the sad bit that you just like, Oh no,
Josh Janssen: [00:21:48] I think this is like the peak time. Where you appreciate not being political at all, but just appreciate not having guns in Australia.
Like just not having any wacko with a gun that can go in know, pissed off with a result and, you know, fuck shit up. Like it's, I feel a lot safer. And I was even thinking, I wouldn't be surprised if some Australians who have Australian citizenship, but live in the U S. Hmm, when you read the news, it feels like surely there's a, there's a good case to come.
Tell him to Australia.
Tommy Jackett: [00:22:29] I know too. That's so funny. I was thinking that same thing about the guns. I think, um, yesterday driving to the picnic, I literally thought in my mind, Oh no, no, no. Sorry. It was this morning driving by the daycare. Cause I did hear on the news just about the civil unrest and how, you know, there was a, there was a civil war in the U S many, many years ago and there, and you know, anytime that they're talking about the.
Possibility of some kind of civil war happening or violence to a large extent, it starts to get your mind thinking. And I was, and I was thinking around the guns of like, I was like, nobody in the, in the range of 10, 20 K has a machine gun in this state, in this country, like, or even close to me. And so. And then I was thinking about us over in the States, like just walking down the street, you could probably count on the fact that within 20 Ks of your location, someone has, uh, a legitimate machine gun.
And as a kid growing up, you don't even think about guns. It's like so rare you bruh, you know, you hardly ever seeing that shit happened. And so, yeah, that's just a scary thought, like not even on. I mean, no one needs machine guns. Let's be honest.
Josh Janssen: [00:23:43] And then you see, then you see, uh, you know, places like England going into lockdown.
Uh, and I just wonder about the people in Victoria or in Australia that were critical of the lockdown. The lockdown measures that we went through, surely are those people now. Starting to connect the dots and saying, Oh, you know what, this isn't, um, we're not in a dictatorship. We're actually, we have a government that cares about us.
And this, like,
Tommy Jackett: [00:24:18] I think there might be a little bit of sting off their previous, uh, you know, only because the freedom makes you forget, like once you can be in the park and you're with your mates, throwing the Frisbee or the baseball, having a little catch, you really quickly forget what it, what, what, what that, what that sort of felt like, and you start to forget more about it.
So I think. Well, I mean, you look, I don't, I mean, London or England, going back into a lockdown from where they were, where they came out of it, like we did the first time in Melbourne and then it just has got really bad. And so, I mean, for, you got to think in Australia, it's not going to go backwards. I mean, you hope that it's not going to go backwards, but I mean, I'm glad that it's happening.
That were coming out at this time where it's Christmas, it's nearly Christmas and you know, the, the summer holidays and the vibe of summer Hartley, hopefully it, you know, changes everyone's mindset,
Josh Janssen: [00:25:22] the, uh, the baseball at the park you had, uh, had a throw what'd you think.
Tommy Jackett: [00:25:26] Yeah, my old school. One thing I did think, I remember the duty, big bag, big black duffel bag of meats, um, that they would pull out of the, the, you know, sports cupboard at primary school.
I just remember sweaty, you know, I like
Josh Janssen: [00:25:44] no whole baseball mitts.
Tommy Jackett: [00:25:46] Yeah, we, yeah, there was, I don't think they came out all the time. You know, they were Primo. Just, but I just remember the leather smell and just like the real sort of floppy ones that had been used a lot. So your ones are nice and firm and sort of, you know, still holding their shape.
Um, but yeah, I enjoyed it. Not bad, like throwing, it sounded a little baseball. It's
Josh Janssen: [00:26:07] good. I mean, what are the you played with, uh, is it a Diablo or what do you call it? sorry.
Tommy Jackett: [00:26:15] Yeah, yeah. Play with that. There was a few other games in the park happening
Josh Janssen: [00:26:19] that wouldn't, one's very popular. What's that?
Tommy Jackett: [00:26:22] I don't know.
Josh Janssen: [00:26:23] It rolled a piece of wood.
Tommy Jackett: [00:26:26] Yeah. Wait, they look like cylindrical with almost like a, um, a sharp cut at the top of it. And it's got a number one to 10 across and they sort of stack them up and you throw them. It's almost like. Botchy a bit more aggressive because he's trying to knock the wood over, but, um, I dunno, I couldn't, I, it must be a new thing.
There was probably about five people playing it. So, I mean, we're going to look at getting that for our duffel bag of sporting it.
Josh Janssen: [00:26:54] I mean, the thing is you would need a bag within a bag. Otherwise it would just get too crazy.
Tommy Jackett: [00:26:59] Yeah.
Josh Janssen: [00:26:59] Def I mean, bace is one that we could get in the bag.
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:03] I love botchy. Very, very fond of bace.
Okay, great.
Josh Janssen: [00:27:07] Why wasn't there people playing bace
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:10] to Sam? Oh, yeah. Maybe, maybe too heavy peat old school. Yeah, but I mean, there is like the quality bace sets the real solid, just metal balls. Then they have some sort of, you know, joker one they're like solid plastic, but that aren't, I don't think they sit as well, but I reckon bace is the go Nate tidy little box of bace.
Josh Janssen: [00:27:35] That'd be nice. Uh, hi@thedailytalkshow.com. Are you. In an area that is going back into lockdown. How are you going reach out to us? Tell us, Tom
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:46] is Tom. Uh, yeah, I reckon there's a few people that listen from different areas that are going to lock down. Yeah. I'd love to know what the vibe is. What are you thinking?
Did you think it was all over? Like was the freedom that we're talking about feeling now? Was it the same? Did you, were you involved in that, like sun's out guns out
Josh Janssen: [00:28:06] and you S if you're in the U S is it as bad as what we think it is? How are you feeling? Uh, yeah, I think it's a, it's an interesting, it's an interesting time.
And, uh, yeah, I think it's, uh, whether it's the ma the media doesn't help, I guess, but at the same time, like, you know, with all this sort of. Misinformation that disinformation, but then there's also a bunch of truth. And, um, this, there feels like there's a lot of different realities happening simultaneously.
And I guess it, it also feels like this time where it's like, whatever the outcome is with the election, it seems like with both outcomes, There could be problems. Yeah. Which I think is a sort of a scary, scary spot to be in. Yes. Send us an email. We'd love to hear from you. Hi at the daily talk, show.com.
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Tommy Jackett: [00:29:10] See you guys.