- July 18, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Wednesday July 18 (Ep 132) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
Hiring someone on Airtasker to cook for you, having a dream about someones and reaching out, sending voice messages and getting the most value.
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conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Johnson and Tommy jacket. It's a daily Talk Show episode. 132. What? Tell me you're sick. I mean bed.
It's a good excuse to have to be in bed at 3pm on a weekday. So it's.
It's 3pm where you are in Melbourne. It is 6am here in Rome. You brought nearly and yeah,
it looks very dark. But you want I mean, this is this is the extent of your days. You've got up early because you wanted to walk to your favorite breakfast spot. Yeah,
we haven't even actually been there yet. Well, it Yeah, it sounds like it's a good breakfast. But but that's just that's so how holiday should be fact we're getting out. What are we doing? I would spend my spare time just walking to a cross place. It sounds good croissants, yes, can be great. It's actually this place, funnily enough is probably the few that isn't going to serve pastries as their main thing I sort of all you know pastry doubt you know, you get to a point on a trip Yeah, I know if I can be fucked eating what I hate. Have you got heartburn yet?
It's a constant thing I live with. No,
I haven't had I get happy when I travel because I end up eating just I feel like I'm having such acidic food. It's just in my guts is just so acidic pizza. I don't know it's a bit different when you go for for for two weeks, because I find I go real high on everything. Well, the funny thing The funny thing about the pizza is just as funny. It's more of an observation just how much of it I'm eating. I'm having like a whole Pater a day like if I did that in Melbourne. Yeah,
I'd feel really bad
here. I'm just impressed. generalizing but what's the white situation of the Italians in Rome? Like do you think they traditionally if if most of people in Melbourne walk around eating pizza would probably get fat as Australians yeah whereas
this slim I mean I feel like visit could make spray would pray I think it's funny when you make generalizations because pray was like I hear they're all skinny and I'm like them was on a mission to point out the fat Italians and yet but yeah they do have a bit of the plane that the game of finding skinny people who look like they're eating pizza based on like having a small guys yeah
right. It's usually the skinny ones who can eat the most I left another generalization
I was at your power Amy and I go to this place around the corner a DVD bar
it started out as just a TV Biddy Barker sounds like a city but
we're now it's definitely believe it's not to mention it but we got schnitzel there. It's got it used to be a tiny little bar hence the name add bar and then now it's just like a whole corner they've taken over like two different places that's not exactly small. But they Pam is that they do the sort of man that'd be 30 centimeters by 30 centimeters like huge like a cheater square
there's not like a big square
chicken I'd rather squared in one of those fuck dodgy love heart schnitzel that you get I mean that's the shape of the brain is that well they think it's the shape of the brain when you do yeah when he butterfly it out but it still looks dodgy when they get that when they get that heart shape. Anyway. Amy and I got it and we split it in half and will and I mean it's like struggling with her side and then this is through the skinny little dirt behind this and we looked over he's just got one to himself next minute look over he's he's polished it off. Just had these last chip
Yeah, I feel like with me losing ways people don't understand why I limit myself so I'll go through like at the moment because I'm fairly late. I the fight these I've been actually leaning out even though I've had gelato every day. Basically paid for every day. We've been doing like two meals and like some small snacks or whatever. But we've been walking like 20,000 plus steps. fact I've actually been like lose it's amazing. I'm like losing white fact. Yeah, you'll come back a rake. One thing that I wanted to talk about when you were saying about the Palmers Did you know that there's only four shapes of McDonald's nuggets
I didn't know that so yeah I'm just picturing a few nuggets and so over the shapes the
there's the bell yeah the bow tie the ball yeah and the boot I've definitely remember the boot one I feel like I'm a boot guy that's what I always get and and is this change to these change across countries? Or is there an Ask me specifics I literally just typed in shapes of nuggets because I remember hearing the fact but that's as far as my knowledge goes on it
well if then you go you gotta break it down to go how much of the actual shape is chicken it yeah
I'm Have you eaten
since you been in Italy? Now I've passed it I've wanted to do it sort of ironically or is it actually we we've had a drink from Mac is but
I like it would I think it'd be a fun experience but I'm still getting over I feel like I'm getting better at saying
accepting being a tourist like I at the beginning of the trip I was would get really sort of self conscious if we ended up at a place where everyone was speaking English yeah and we definitely
you know like for instance yesterday we went to a coffee place that our Airbnb host from Serrano recommend yeah and
they had coffee to go and in the end so we just ordered it versus like that it said to go and there was like a coffee bar as well so we could have easily I wish that we'd sort of sat stood up and had it rather than take it away but I've just guess my vibe has to spend not to worry about it like you can't spend your time trying to avoid being the thing that you actually are I was gonna say that's pretty much just what to resend up doing they literally have noxious to the fact that they are a tourist. So you're a tourist, I think, I think you've got it you've got a bait, I think anything else is a bit naff. Like a trying not to be in trying to be a local is impossible. Matt you'd like to
rock a pair of white chinos and loafers I can imagine that for
actually saw the best combination the other day which was
sketches which I got so much shit for when I came back from the US maybe four years ago yeah which six pairs of sketches because they did sort of a Buy one get 50 to get the next 150 percent yeah and I got so much shit for this guy had sketches like I saw the sketch a logo first and I looked at the style of shoe and it was a boat shoe I was just like the ultimate dad shoe sketches boats like super super comfy I'm sure he's got like the gel sort of you know salt like the soul but yeah it I don't know I feel like I've it's funny I never used to really worry about that stuff but I see it now I'm like if it's like the socks thing that Trefor pointed out I I knew that the socks were against sort of my values and what I've just been wearing my socket since May
rock the sockets you're all good it's it's it's gonna be I mean I had a I was helping you to try and have something find like a shift for Friday she's going to a Christmas party a Christmas in July I'll specify Christmas right now Christmas in July party and she needed we pre recorded this in December
and she's she's looking for like someone to come in and cook a whole bunch of food to serve on the night and so I tried to get my friend who are in cafes and he had some contacts and anyway that fell through but she ended up going on a task and she put out a brief Have you used a task it before know something new yeah we used it for cleaning up balcony dated like a gurney and shit and the lack of by one and then we're like you know what, let's just let's just pilot do to do it. And so Amy's like yeah we got one that she calls me she's like baby Do you know you can you can make 400 bucks if you take these boxes from to rack to paraben right now or something like that she's like she's on there looking through and so I ended up jumping on and she sent me so she ended up going on a task and finding a person that's coming into cook all the food on Friday what sort of cuisine today so specify was like I feel
like you'd go specific for the best results I guess not everyone's going to like Indian but I feel like that's what I would you know get some like Indian who'd moved to Australia who's awesome so this
is the problem that wasn't needing selves she has nine legs of lamb three legs of ham she needs vegetable gravy potato
why create a puzzle yc Why did she turn in the attachment though she oh she's got all that ingredients is also got five boxes that she needs delivered and then she's going to take the extra money ship actually 400
so she's got the so she's got the all the ingredients that she needs caught she's got the ingredients you just need someone to come in and cook them and serve them up onto a table and so that was what the brief she put out she found this woman and I'm on area tasking now and you can see their previous jobs and what they've been what they've been doing and she's not just a chef it seems get these other than this is this is this is it well this is a cooking request on a task that she's done prepare meals for a toddler for one month so she came in and cooked a month with
which is essentially also probably a babysitter like where's the parents
just the review they left who is amazing went above and beyond thank you again Bye I scroll down and saw that it wasn't just cooking she she got paid to go and view a rental property and they said Sharon has been great to conduct the property inspection for me with photos included thanks again
yeah it is a good it's an interesting time that we're in I feel like I haven't I didn't get in there was a there was a one in the in the US called task rabbit it's interesting because all of these things that happened in the US when they're in the US I get really excited and then they come to Australia and I'm not I don't adopt them early and air Tasker is one of them I just think because I don't want to stop that as a as a habit where I'm just getting people to do everything for me but I thought we could actually use it when you get back because you have she has it prepping meals or preparing any sort of food for your consumption that's not a the the top or just like
with 70 extravagant
somebody sort of yeah I can look after the lamb but when it's just like doing the day to day chicken fill it with a little bit of fucking lemon
yes anatomy but I wonder if we can we should we should do as an experiment. Get Josh is food prep and my babies food prep? Yeah like that.
You just gonna add on Brody's Brody's meals just like can you just with those carrots? He is what's he eating at the moment? So bodies' what like 20 months now nice nearly 18 months you know August it and what what is an 18 month year old 18 month old 18 month old eating well we ran him on the 8020 diet which is it was a good food at daycare. And then when he's without 20% shit foot and when I say 20th century food I literally just mean it's more like purse prepaid things that you can buy. So that's not like that's not a ship. Not you're giving him Reese's peanut butter.
Definitely not. Did you see the way Instagram story? I'll put it up on the daily talk show. I am I he's obsessed with Well, probably it's my doing. I put the fork into the peanut butter. And I feed it to him. And he's math. He just Haha, yes. He loves it. So I've done it. My brother did it. It's like a habit that you it's probably the worst thing you could do. Just sticking knives into his kids. We did as kids. And now I do it. Now I feed my son the peanut butter on the for the fork. He loves it. And then he's just more more more more
I don't blame him
so he knows better and chocolates. Probably the best combo actually
if he if he can have both. Well, I saw I gave him peanut butter. But he they seemed like healthy, option premium prepaid. You know, pumpkin risotto.
What else is there like cottage pies? said yeah, it's just like the mashed potato and and mints and there's What else? That's the outrageous thing you've spoken about on the show before. What Bodie eats in a day at daycare is just outrageous. Like surely he doesn't even need to eat when he gets home if he's eating the sort of food that he's eating then habra he's bulky. It's crazy. It's crazy. He drinks like two bottles of milk a day he has breakfast morning snack lunch, afternoon snack
Yeah, he's It's crazy. And then he just goes to bed at seven wakes up at seven it's just it's just like is living the dream. Oh, he's wild in the morning because he just wants to eat again.
I took talking about dreams I had a dream after eating it must have been because I had a lot of cheese salt. It was a friend of it was a someone who I wouldn't have seen for about 10 years and I had this dream and she was in it and she was crying and I remember a story of my mate nice on talking about him having a friend who was in his dream who hadn't seen in a long time crying and he called them and they just went had just gone through this horrific stuff and it was just this weird sort of connection and I woke up from the drain would have been like three in the morning in Italy and I was like really worried about the person but I thought it's would it be weed or have you ever done it contacted someone said hi I just had a dream and you're crying hope you doing oh good for how close are you with them? Like what if they got any message from you not this one. But just dude where we're really fond of it's my one of my older It was like my best friend teacher that I like got along with really well and we
it would get so excited if we saw each other in the street or something like that you know
yeah I think it's
I mean if you get a lead with I
dreamt about you last night right
drink tea crying just wanted to check your I don't think there's anything I'm curious to know the reaction so off content if I've got that that had on I've haha i'm curious as to what would happen
It feels like it's a bit like dude I did have like a real moment of feeling sad and I'm worried but it's the other thing I realized is the the power of waking up in the middle of the night and how different my brain works like at three in the morning when I woke up from that drain it was like I was like I need to do something nice to start thinking about all of these things around worrying about people and then like I'm like you know don't just send anything yet yeah have a sleep and then wake up in the morning I woke up at seven didn't go fuck yeah yeah
well you're working like you can totally get worked into an emotional state in your dream
yeah and that's so that's what's happened Amy's been banging on about dreaming about these numbers and she had some reason she dreamed of the floor no joke she directed these numbers and so she's bought a ticket so the show will probably be brought to you live from easily next week if we do win it on Friday on Thursday night
are really going to come in to do the rest of the trip with us
well you'd be doing the rest of the trip mooching off us You scumbag
yeah exactly and I'd be happy with it would spend a few extra knots in Santa rainy off here be good but so she yeah she she acted on her dream is gone and bought a Tesla Tesla ticket. So maybe just but that doesn't involve anyone else that I like that it sort of extends the dream to life but this seems something a little bit more a bit weird because the other thing too is I think with the phone number she would get this I probably haven't text we probably haven't had a text exchange in maybe a year and a half but you know we've been friends for you know 1515 years or whatever so it's like having those big gaps is completely normal but the weird thing I think would be that I'm like interacting with her on another platform so I'd have to like jump on WhatsApp and be like hey going
yeah well maybe get her email address and sender this episode and she can
she can get the full Josh experience
I man that's sorry you're saying in Israel was net where people send just voice messages rather than writing texts? Yeah, I
was what I just noticed. Everybody. People are motorbikes been walking in the street they wouldn't have their phone to the ear they just have it like to their mouth like a walkie talkie like a handheld walkie talkie thing and so that yeah and then I worked at it's the using WhatsApp voice messenger
I reckon that will come to us I think that will be a big thing in Australia there was I'm trying to remember the the one that I used to use there was one for probably only lasted like a month but it was just a voice messaging app and even the radio stations would use it as like a voicemail yes type of do I know exactly the way they talking about it yeah
I can't remember what it's called it was called took off
hate out hey tales so hundred percent my
house my juul anything with it? Yeah, my behalf Matt and I we just used to Hi. tell each other when we're taking shits.
And isn't it It's funny how I do one to think about Instagram stories. Instagram Stories wasn't around what like a year and a half ago. I can't remember the exact date. It hasn't been around for that long. And think about how much it's actually changed the way we use that platform. Hundred percent. It's It's huge. I haven't been using Snapchat anymore can be fact
I don't even have it on my phone. I don't think you got it got rid of it completely. What do we is taking up space? 2018 or 2018? Yeah, yeah,
August 2016 was when Instagram Stories started. And it's Yeah,
I mean, coming on to use it. But it's totally changed the way people are consuming video content in the in the in the portrait portrait mode. Like it's become a big TV, right, it's gonna probably take us even thinking about what we do and how we could actually go and create content specifically for the record that's actually decent. And beyond just cropping into a bit. Yeah, yeah,
I think like, if you're shooting on 4k, six k AK cameras, it makes total sense because, because all you all you need to do is just do more of a wide shot. And you can just punch in and you can actually film it for the I think, I think stuff looks better. Like when I'm watching in portrait mode stuff on Instagram.
Like I love the look of videos when they're in that portrait mode. And it's like, well, because that's how we hold the the actual phone right. It feels it feels more natural than like I clicked on a YouTube video that just happened to be vertical. I was actually like, this is a good experience and you're on your phone. Yeah, yeah.
Interesting. Man. The thing is, like I was thinking about going to this guy this
it was like solders you know, find out this guy's $11 million social media
plan. But I was like it part of me wants to go because it's like, I know how bullshit that Sally's when it comes to the social media, you know, the plan of a guy using someone else's business to leverage his business. It's like,
there's no, this is the thing like, yeah, I think that the benefit of it is the is understanding like deconstructing what they're doing versus actually listening to what they're saying with a lot of people and what they're doing at the moment. You can learn more with their strategy of like, Okay, why are they doing like, what's the trying to connect those starts? Yeah, it's actually it's like, I am Bree Bree couldn't believe how long I wanted to stand and watch this silver
statue, dude who was sort of like, he was in front of one of the sides saying, you know, spots in Rome. And he was standing there. And I was loving it. Because someone what caught my interest was, someone took a photo of him and didn't
didn't pay him any money like they were, they were from a distance trying to take a photo. And he was just putting his hand out there, like quite aggressively. And then it's like, how this scribe, I'm just going to watch him. And so you would say, like, when people would come close to him, and they'll sort of want a photo with him, he would grab their hands, like, pull them in really close, like be being quite aggressive. And the other thing that you do is you try and grab people's attention, but you'd be looking at and he would he's guy
like, and be like, it was, I was like this guy, it was something really revolting about it. Because he was just and one person didn't got actually went and had a photo. So they were and then they didn't give any money. And he was like, saying something I couldn't, couldn't tell, because I was a little bit further off, but I would have watched him and he was speaking Italian. 15 minutes. Yeah, except, well, I don't know what he was speaking. But it probably was Italian. But that I think, feel like there's a lot of
foreigners who are applying those playing those games. Rather, selling all the shit and doing all those things I was just thinking hacker would have video be sort of starts out with, you know, this, the smiling faces of everyone experiencing this guy. And you know, the beautiful location that they're in the money getting dropped in, and then like him packing it up. And it sort of follows the story back to his house. Because I always say these people I go, Yeah, like, what they like, Where do they live? Leave? What did I leave in? And I always paint the picture. It's like, what you and I do stand there. And just like, what do you guys deal is, but man so much of that? What do you what do you think that guy? The the Silverman, what do you think the Silverman's living arrangements and life is it? What do you think? Yeah, that's what
I was what I feel like, you know, he's probably in a house with a bunch of other people, you know, a bunch of other foreigners and they all have their different shtick. And he's living with one guy who said, who works in the sort of the tour guide space. There's another one who's a juggler. And he's the painted face too. Yeah. And, like he
and so and I feel like I'd like to think that the way that he got into it was one of his, one of the guys before him that lived in the house had the silver outfit. And he asked what it was, and the guy said, Look, this is what I do with the status when I put on the outfit and then I've got some leftover paint and then the guys like oh yeah, I need some money or give this ago and then he gave it a go and he's like, Okay, this is I don't know if anyone says this is for me because it was like a horrendous position debating because it was so hard. He's like, he's literally acting like one of those reflectors that you're in your car
in front of you caught wind screen to sort of side he would have been so hot. Yeah,
I reckon that all I could think of was you telling that story with an Australian accent, and then it be just such a different story being captured with these Italian people talk here, like these Europeans
would be a lot sexier. A lot. lot more romantic. Yeah,
people would watch that over the Australian person. Go water. Fact. It's sad. Can't
the thing I was thinking about stuff. I'm just looking at the, the trial I bought has been something that I I've been trying to talk about the cheese the
we went to, we went to a place to wage and they basically it was one of those ones where you pay 10 euros. There's there's a word for it by can't remember. It's sort of like a buffet. But there's an Italian word and you go there. It's sort of just before dinner time they do it like from like six to seven or something. And it's small plates of food. And you get a drink with it. And Brie or ordered some sort of cocktail. And I ordered a Coke Zero. And the lady thought it was really funny, because I was paying the same price that Bray was getting something that would be perceived with the high value. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And the thing I was thinking about was the fact that
I in that moment, I'm like, oh, should I get a cocktail, that ease of high value. But the thing is that it's like that, that isn't the if the aim of the game is to do stuff that you enjoy what, what's better spending more money for something that you don't want? Because there's a higher perceived value in it, or spending the money and getting the actual thing that you want? Yeah,
so I have this pickle when I you know, yet, like a meal deal. You can get a drink, and yeah, whatever food comes with it. I always think I
always like want the water. I'm like, I only need water. But I go for the coke. So I do. It's kind of the, it's the high value one, which is the coke in that moment over water. Because you can get there from a tap and I go for the coke because it's more valuable. I didn't need the fucking coke. It's true. I've got cocktails. Literally. I'm doing so much of that. Like the Coke Zero. I'm doing even like just going out. I've been drinking a lot more Coke Zero than I normally would. Because I'm like, off. I'm gonna get it drink. And it's gonna be called rather than spending a year on a water. I'll spend two years on a Coke Zero. Yeah.
So I've done that a lot. A lot with alcohol, like on, you know, yeah, go on the beer of the soft drink.
The thing is that what she didn't realize was I absolutely smashed the bow fi and had Simon Aaron. Jamie bowls. I knew like if I can put them out of business or the chakras on her at the end. What is
how much did you pay for
teams? 10? It was 10 euro age. Yeah. And we got like, it was great. It was like that was out in a sordid so it was I think it converted to about 31 Australian dollars for the two of us to wait half of the drink. It was meant to be like the best place to do it in Rome. It was Yeah,
it was it was really nice. And tell me Did you go to the Vatican City?
Yes. So we went, we went live on the peripheral. So we've got how many more days? Today's Wednesday. So Wednesday. Yeah, we leave. We leave them tomorrow. It's interesting. I haven't the exact same mentality of that value thing is the same reason why I haven't been going into all the sites because the site to like sometimes it takes two hours to line up or you pay X amount for a Fast Pass. And I'm actually like,
I've been really sort of content with the idea that I don't need to say everything. And so we went around the Vatican around Vatican City. So I think we may have been, I don't know, if we were in there, how Bad's that what I do know is like we're walking around and and there was a point where you needed to like pay to get through and we'll just like are we can see it all
Yeah, I don't know what like I don't know if I'm super it cultured in that way but I just you're definitely am I missing something here definitely. You didn't go to the valley you went outside you were at a music festival but you're over the the barbed wire fence on the other side just hearing a bit of the Red Hot Chili Peppers like
to think we should go is it worth going to 100 years ago where you go you need to go so when you walk there what will happen is if you get a train or whatever you start walking towards the Vatican and there will be like people who are offering to us do one of them
I know it's not the thing to always do but if you you can do a tour and they take you through it take like an hour an hour two hours yeah it's unbelievable it is I can't it's like all right if you go anywhere and run and cry
and take a photo and put it we'll put in a put it on their own distort into the story if you can have the roof beautiful roof inside of the Vatican it's unbelievable and the amount of interior in like proves that I've taken photos of and looked at on this trip. I never knew that there was so important but there's there's a lot a lot of detail in these things. It's a daily talk everyone thanks to Michelle sentence and a mouse pointing out that she's confused as fact because she's always thought you're the rebel just dying to realize that maybe I am with all my promises. But um, I I can't help but it's funny I got really deep after reading it and thought like I like the fact that we don't have like that we're not sort of in in radio I think that there's this sense that you need to play caricature of yourself sometimes Yeah, so I remember saying radio shows where you're the funny one and you're not the funny one so the funny one makes jokes and the other one doesn't wear what I like with this is that where we just were just like real people who sometimes outrageous and sometimes sensible and it's not always going to be the one way
Yeah exactly. I mean yeah I was just gonna say something really inappropriate but all 11 stick with Michelle and
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