#762 – The Throwback Club/
- June 16, 2020
We chat about the IKEA effect, losing friendships as a kid, Josh’s shoe laces, show road trips and the throwback club.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
– The IKEA effect
– Josh’s shoe laces
– Clearing up the hot springs
– Road trips
– The Throwback club
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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 762. happening guys. What's going on today? Tommy jacket?
Josh Janssen. How are you man?
How are you sibs? Yeah, I'm great.
George. Feeling good. Why didn't he get one? Why didn't he get a? What do you make you just yeah to
all the other boys did I not know I was just getting ready. I'm also sweet. I switch during the show. Hi. My name's Josh Janssen. Welcome to the daily talk show. I felt as a microaggression to be
towards George slight just looking into everything. Had a good smoothie this morning.
From micro aggressions to smoothies. Yeah.
Now I want to talk about sort of like lessons in life. Oh, yeah. And this is a smoothie metaphor. actually haven't quite thought about it. Okay,
no more either metaphor guy.
Well, no. Okay. So let me the backstory. I make a smoothie every morning for Young birdie. And for young Amy and yeah, I put everything in grains, not honey, not frozen spinach. And then I prep it, but he's got his cup. Amy's got her cup. They're all travel cups so we can get in the car and shoot off to work. I've always been very sort of adamant, Amy, make sure you drink your smoothie. And it sounds like I've got two kids but I it's and that's my wife Amy. If you're new to the show, welcome. I'm Tommy jacket. Host
love three quarter law ties.
Georgia law school code a lot.
It's a good jog, the coffee shop.
And so anyway, anyway, what is so I would get, that'd be a lot of pushback. It's like when Bray asks Have you paid your phone bill?
I get no it's so annoying because I'm I get up and I'm making Amy The thing that is just too Healthy for her to kick start her day. She's left in the car before she comes out from work forgot to drink it. Does she not like it? No, she actually locks it. And he's the thing always hot enough. But tables reversed. I now have been getting up a little lighter. Amy's been doing this 30 days of abundance. This programme where you kind of do an activity where you're right and Deepak Chopra. You write out something and then you do a meditation, which means she's up earlier and I've been in bed keeping Bodi in there. So he doesn't run down to mom and then she makes the smoothie. She packs it for me gives me a little travel cup my sippy cap. And I've been forgetting to drink it. And now that you know when you you know that's got ammo in there, like she just mocks me. Oh, it's you know, I wish you would drink it. You know, just pretending to be me, my wife.
How's your 30 days of abundance going? That's what you do. Yeah, you do.
Yeah. Well Just is that
whiteness is projecting inside clearly this negativity is coming from a place because the abundance things not going well now I bet I what happens after the 30 days
you're you're actually enlightened
it what is the what is the actual point of
that programme you are meant to then create sir about 14 days or 11 days in you then create a group
another group know whatsapp group or it could be a message where you then get other people to start doing it. And so it's a flow on effect what's
what's his name again? The Guru,
Deepak Chopra. Yeah, yeah,
old school. Anyway, I've worked it out though. If I make the smoothie, I'll never forget to drink it. But when Amy makes it for me, there's a high chance I'll forget. Because I'm not connected to the
process or to the the IKEA effect,
what I mean, you could call it that or you could call it the smoothie effect. And that's what I'm saying. So the life lesson around the smoothie smoothie effect is you need to be a part of process to truly read the full benefit of the smoothie.
Well, so you're Dan Ariely who wrote the book predictably irrational talks about the it effect, which is you value something more if you had a part in making it. Yeah. Is this not just the IKEA effect? What's the difference? Because I'm confused when it becomes the IKEA effect. So
at a glance you get it
just moves you I get the IKEA effect. Yeah, that metaphor makes sense. I think it also works for isn't everything around in restaurants where they give you salt and pepper and stuff. So you can add a little bit to it. So maybe enjoy it a bit. Yeah.
I think that the reason I like the IKEA effect is because it's like, it's very clean. I think that you don't know what IKEA is.
If you don't know what I mean. You're just thinking flat pack nightmare and broken down relationships. Well, you're in trouble with the IK I
wouldn't recommend a book recommend predictably irrational by Dan Ariely. He talks about the like on the whole IKEA effect thing. They got people to make paper cranes up on paper.
Yeah, like the origami.
Yeah. And so they they ran an experiment where they got people to make their own paper cranes. And then at the end, they go to a gift shop and they can buy at pre made paper cranes or they can buy the ones that they just made and pay people would pay significantly more for the ones that they made.
Yeah, I love it. I'll set it with the IKEA if it can.
One other fund, Dan Ariely thing. Yeah, he taught interesting guy. He was burnt as a young person he had had burns to like a portion of his body. And he got into psychology based on the process of having his wounds, basically, the like they're putting on the ointment and then get The bandages never have to tear the bandages off. He talked about all of that. But anyway, he's done a TED talk as well, I believe, but he talks about the value of getting someone to do something as a favour versus doing it for money. And so the research that they did was they basically got a bunch of people into when he smiling at me, okay,
he could smile. He didn't have to have it, but he could usually
stop smiling. So anyway, no, so that they had a very simple game. They gave a group of people a small amount of money to basically tick a box on a computer programme. They just had to say how many times then someone got paid a bunch more. And then another group was asked to do it as a favour. The people who performed the best were the people who We're doing it as a fiver. And what they talk about is when you pay someone a small amount of money, the system that they're using the anchoring system is financial. So they're looking and being like, I'm not getting paid much for this. So I'm not going to put in that much work. But when it's a favour, or you're doing something from a social standing perspective, you put in more effort.
So we just want to build this business off five
out of five is your favourite production. Thanks,
guys. Yeah, it's also then so the IKEA effect as a as a you know, it's principle it's sort of meaning behind it. It's like when it's like me saying no, it's the smoothie effect it's because like, I connect more with the learning the hard learning from the smoothie effect for for me, how do you feel after making like a flat pack piece of furniture at the end? shithouse I did it for George because he was useless. He got his you know, he's he's Voice Over booth desk and I've never seen someone more useless at doing that. He literally just turned around. I was like, I'm gonna do this. Yeah. And so I did. And I sure I feel accomplished and I'm like, able to use it as a good story to point out that he's a piece of shit.
Isn't the IKEA effect? Like, that's like being a parent, isn't it?
What? What just having to take it, man?
Yeah, you just thought you're creating it. And so you value it more.
Yeah. So this is another one from Deepak Chopra, who? Amy and I were talking in the car last night. I thought it was great. There was a woman who saw a cocoon. So inside butterfly wants to come out, wants to flap its wings instead of leave out into the beautiful world. And so cocoons that did they start as caterpillars? Think so. I think so. Well, I think Yeah, Caterpillar Caterpillar? No, Caterpillar cocoon. Butterfly. Yeah. And so
so it already been kind of Caterpillar caterpillar. I was in a cocoon. Fuck I haven't actually thought about right is that properly As an adult, dude, I
made a video about reincarnation.
it is. It's it's a whole different thing. Yeah.
So I get this time, what happens to it? This is the story that I'm he told me from day pack, there was a woman who saw a cocoon and there was, you know, this struggling butterfly that was like half out and couldn't really get apps. And the lady was like, Oh, this poor little thing might have to help it. But it turns out that a butterfly needs to struggle to send blood flow into its wings. And so she helped it to come out. And then the butterfly couldn't fly, because it hadn't gone through the struggle going. Yep. And so we were relating this butterfly struggle job page, someone helped me to the Australian Government helping small businesses. It could be you could say, Bodie, when we took him to daycare the other day, so sad. He was a bit upset. very upset, actually. We took him in and a couple of his mates were there. And we stand at the door and they run out. And they say, Bodie, you're not my best friend. And he lost it. I should have seen his face like, crying. It was heartbreaking.
And it was like, What do you do to the kids?
I beat the shit out. No, but it's that. I mean it was relighting the learning to see your child struggle. Seeing them get bullied, know, seeing them, lose friends, whatever it be, is so hard and all you want to do is jump in and check them out. No, you want to jump in or you want to help you want to make it okay, you want to take their pain and turn it turn around very quickly, which is ended up you're just
you're you're not allowing them to build resilience. And being a parent is one of those true times where you need to work out what you're part of the you know, resilience building is happening within your child because they have to experience Is the pint and so what do you say to him? When when he's best friend says when along the best friend?
We can't say man up anymore. That's why that
there's nothing you can do you got to let him go through the pain say it's okay. You know, like they just say that like they do sidle to each other. And there's not much you can do you have to let them feel the pain and just be there for them. And then when he gets older, being able to rationalise it and say, you know, he didn't mean that or, you know,
why do you think he's friends said,
they all do it. I said he says
it's there. But as he says that so do you think that Bodhi was just getting a bit of his own medicine? They all give it to each other? This is the thing that's not to look, it's not so did you say? Bodhi so when you do that, so when you say you're not my best friend, you see how it makes you feel?
Yeah, not in the moment of happening, but it's like but yeah, you know how you say that to mommy and daddy. We don't like it. So it's like, it's not a nice thing to say. He can't it's not like, moment of pain is the opportunity to jump in and learn the life lesson. That's
where I think you and I are different because I feel like we are glad you're not on
axon. It's not the right time.
Because it feels like that like ultimate learning time. It's like he's in tears. Okay, he's the up. Like, it's like he's feeling the full force of the feeling,
but I don't think that's where learning necessarily can't you're at a zoomed out level. They, you know, they if
they have the conversation, have you had the conversation about the best friend thing?
Yeah, we spoke briefly. I mean, there's so much they can understand. He's like really being able to. We picked him up that day. And it was so happy
as parents like
thinking about it, you know, think about a time when kids have, you know, not invited you somewhere or like that story I tell about Friday night kids leaving kids. Everyone's saying, oh, we're leaving. I got a lovely message from Rory worried excluded me from the from the after party. Just a stick. I don't actually like I didn't. I love Rory, I love Danny. I love all of you guys, but I don't need to spend after 9pm. So I was like I was I was cool.
Now I get it. I get it. But yeah,
last where I was going. So the
story where I kid was like, oh, we're all going now from this kid's house and then they walk around the block and go back to the house and I left it like that, you know? That was in I was an older kid. I didn't tell anybody about it. I just became friends without the table.
Friendships are hard on
friendships children, I mean, where's it start school? You're around kids that you just there because you're all going to the same school. And so, yes, seeing Bodi go from daycare, where he went from when he was six months old, and the close friendships that he did. There, and then taking him out of that, and dropping him into a new environment. And the height and the pain of a parent seems like he had attachment to these kids and Will he be able to become friends with him? And then being in that yourself like we've all gone through that at some some degree of working out how to find you
how to find your people. Do you think you thrived in primary school or high school?
Still thriving? Or do you find that?
When did you Paik
Producer just said that she thrived in high school. Yes, buddy primary school and then she became a top dog and now
if anything peaked, I was on the app
from grade two.
And then I left then you nine was a great year. That was when I left
It's cuz you're the arcane ear. Right?
I can eat right? Because then it started going downhill where I had one last year at the school I was at. And then my schooling went very much downhill, ISIS separated friendship groups, but then I think it was.
Now I was here right?
Now, I'm useless. Like, I've got my mates, but it's, you definitely sort of amongst it. And it's very much a TV show at that point. So
do you think you'll bring up like, with Bodie? The whole bestfriend thing is, it sounds like he's just forgotten about it. You know, I feel like it's a lot of what you're bringing up when he says it to us when he says, You're not my best friend because we haven't done something for him. That's a moment where I said that's a Mozart, but I wonder what would happen if you were just like, Hey, you know, the other day? Yeah, we do that too.
We did that. What would you do that? Yes. I wonder about what about the best friend thing.
So you have that with him? Yeah. So it is like what do you say?
But I think I think there's a right I think you're very version of when he's in pain versus when he's saying it to us and we're in pain, which isn't we're not in pain where he's parent.
And he's just being silly directly to connect the dots.
I think he connects the dots between how he felt when he was it was said to him, and when he's doing it to us, because he's feeling upset about something, and they were just trying to use that. I think you're onto something about what about the middle
ground? I wonder like the middle ground where it's like, he hasn't said it to you? Yeah, he's happy at it. Yeah. It's just like having a good day. It's like, ah, like, let's watch a lot. Yeah, sure. Yeah. You know how you said your best friend said that he's not your best friend anymore. Yeah. How are you feeling about it now?
Yeah, it is. It's It's so sweet. Like he's evolving. He said, he's a little butterfly at the moment like sister Mommy, me. How are you feeling? You happy, sad? What's been the highlight of your day? To he said to her next door neighbour. How's your week, baby? That's good. She said yeah, it's been good. I'm working
Yeah. It's so cute. I've had a bit of an issue this morning. It's been happening a lot. This is not the smoothie now it's a smoothie. That's actually it's more low level was talking smoothie
No, but it's my shoe laces.
Oh, what's happened?
Well, I've been having like I don't know if it's a six specifically as a brand but the my shoe laces I do the I do what I believe to be the correct way of doing my shoe pair Do you do shoe laces I by the way?
I what I don't do is the one where you create one loop and create another loop and then loop I see no, that's that's childish. Yeah, that's what I do. Now. I had a client, a personal training client that would do that. And I just thought, child, I feel like the kids that really struggled
growing up, really made me nervous. What do you do so you do it the other way I couldn't imagine you're doing it the other way. I just imagine if I pay my mind it's a big Velcro passage Oh for you slip ons you actually can do the other way.
I can do both ways it's amazing. They impressed they can't do that why? I can't do I bought the book that
I was gonna buy last year I'd be fine
Can you can you show us with your hands now the the
techniques you know shoot just in the air
so I'll do it and then I was just slightly annoying for listening. Okay, so I'm I'm grabbing one grabbing bunny years turning, pulling and you still say
I've heard it when we're travelling bunnies.
So the annoying thing is about my assets is the they get very knotted. So like for instance, I'll show you right now is it your bunny is trying undo my shoes, please throw it they smeller can Okay, so so just show the camera so Tommy's got my shoe.
So my shoes if I so this is a double knot, so you need a it's also the lice to dude. It's like a very sort of fabric. Eli's is it fat or thin that it's thin.
And so this is so I was 10 minutes late today
then pulls out one of those.
But this is already taking a fair bit of time, don't you
think? It's not on my foot? If it was on my fault, or I was sitting on a bed? Doing it? It would be easy.
But no, you don't. I'm trying to work out what if it's the licence? What's going on? It's 100% the licence do I get new licence?
Yes, you do get new licence. I've no child licence
one away the best licence you can get them. Do you remember back in
Yeah. Well, that's why I'm wondering.
Places like that will help keep my shoe. I've done it.
Maybe it's the other shoe. There's a shoe that now in fact that
T i think it's the way you show. Can you
show me that Trying to the other one.
Now I could get it undone anyway, this you should say the thing that you haven't
gotten undone. So you've gotten your shoe now. But that's not what we're asking my shoe.
I just undid that. Do you licence Should I
do like should I not double? Not? Not?
Not a double? Not double knots? Not the problem. I think it's your bunnies that are the problem bra.
Do you go over or under when you're actually lysing them? Like, I think
like over and then back around then in? Or is it like, up through the hall and then around, I've never thought about it and then up through the other hole. I go,
I go under. To be honest, I don't I haven't thought about it.
And so it takes me like I need the adult thinking. So I need to pick. I need to pick at it every time to try and undo the knot.
I've had attics that had thicker sort of circular licence that was sick. They were like almost half circuit like this sort of like yeah, that will Right, it's those licence, they're damaged.
So when you're in a rush and so when it gets to this point, once I've undone the devil, I've got I've got it. Don't take them off without undoing them.
Yeah, I do that.
That's a great idea. Yeah, but you haven't had a problem lazy. Yeah, cuz
I do that. But then I slip my foot back into the same shoe. Yeah, yeah. Okay, Josh, he's dead. He has to talk. Every time he goes.
By so definitely, even I taught it ain't right. Okay, so this is I'm doing it for the for the video. So you grab the bunny ears. You like this? pass that bit over. So you go like that. And
then I do and then I go.
And I do a knot which is fine, but I think it's the extra I think it's bunnies and the bunny. Have you looking at problems that have been had online? having problems with the bunnies? That's good. And how old are they? Good. It just it just looks like
My nose too close to the base when you're doing your bunnies yeah that I think that was it.
What does it make you to go to What do you mean? you tighten the whole shoe with your bunny whereas otherwise
yeah but we got really tight this Instagram we do a poll are you doing is or are you a grown?
No This was so yesterday What I said was we were talking about the hot springs in mornington Peninsula or wherever the fuck it is peninsula springs. What I said was I made a comparison and I said that springs like sauna someone is when it comes to the social interaction that happens specifically you said I have the same elements. What was the worst you said they're sort of
out a roof with similar similar qualities. Yeah,
exactly. I said and so I didn't think at the time of a spa. A spotty I felt like a springs and spas to be honest. So similar One of them is just man made the other ones not arcanist probably spotted that I considered natural, unnatural spot, right? You could even use the words interchangeably aspiring springs, whatever. And so yeah, when I got onto Instagram last night and saw that the question was, what is a spring more like a spa or a sauna?
implying that I thought that a spring was a sauna.
It was absurd. And then I also thought like I judged the people who clicks on a mica they did they just like me or do they not know what a spring is?
Well, it's a bit.
So shoot. 97% of people say that. A spring is more like a spa. But I knew that that wasn't what was up for the debate. And so
I agree with you the qualities of a spring like that over sauna.
Yeah, in terms of
your bodies in there. You're sweating. You could
even imagine those two that you could imagine. So on a facility if you were getting facilities, if you were springs company if you fucking inherited some land and springs You see, you'd be like, Okay, what else? Let's get a plunge pool. Great. Let's get some towels. Let's build a sauna.
They've got a sauna there. It's got the hot springs. Exactly.
legit hot spring liner. Oh, like a man made in an insula. So like down to the like once I was in Tahoe, in New Zealand and I Motherland few saves. I got a little scooter Buddha, I hide it and I drove in there and just found this river. Unbelievable like crystal blue waters and then there was this this stream coming down little waterfall and it was steaming on it's not just got me Let's
show how they doing it.
Well, they're all like built up and maybe it's on so it is that there is a spring maybe these better using spring water and just hating it up as well. You're thinking yeah I'm not sure where they're getting their water source from and what how you qualify to be a natural springs there has to be some element of
probably add an add in the mountain or a string water comes from natural hot springs that are 637 metres below ground. Yeah,
so that so the ones that are like, I think, step up in legitimacy the ones that you don't pay to get into it's just on the side of a river and it's coming down from the mountain and it's steaming hot like a New Zealand like this heaps in New Zealand
went to the Roman Baths in Bath to get new england now you can't go in it's like it's very green very green is like it Yeah, it's like an ancient thing he took around but the water there is that you still feel the water it's still hot. It's been like that for thousands of years.
It's ridiculous. newzealand Yeah
definitely now dad running that operation.
Have you been to Rotorua saves in New Zealand? That's a No. Oh dude. Stay Let's go over the mineral the gases coming out of the ground. We started this Oh, this is when I was on the stripping to know stayed in this old like a homestead that was like a a there was rooms that had no bathroom they just had a basin and then there was communal basin area and communal toilet areas and horrible to be honest. And then there was downstairs in the kitchen area is great, but I was on this like, and you look down and it was just steaming everywhere. It was picturesque. If we did a tour of something like if you had a bus anywhere in the world, and we could do like the daily talk show.
Tour. Where would you go?
To I say to a funny? No,
that's right. I'm glad because
some people say millions tall. So we're What? tall,
tall? Tall so yeah. What do you think? Where would you like to?
If we had security, Mexico?
Why do they security is too dangerous?
Depends what part
Dangerous most part like this
into a tank turn or whatever, it's so fucking Yeah, gated communities but don't get silent. I mean, I'm
I know some people from Mexico and they've just told me how fucking dangerous it is. And they're locals. They're like yeah, I grew up with three people that got kidnapped. Oh, you know, they came back they don't they weren't trying to kill him. They just wanted the money. Anyway, I would love to go to a bus. I know. That's been very, very safe. But in terms of like us just having a carefree trip, the carefree trip in the coast of Los Angeles versus going down from Tijuana down the you know, into the beauty of it. It's like ridiculous there's like volcanoes and
that's the first first thing I thought of was a volcano would be cool. Yeah. Oh, yeah. After I know. Yeah. No,
that's not you look at the stuff that happened in like it was that New Zealand? Yeah, it was. You think about what Hamish and Andy did with that right. Yeah,
I got it. Sorry.
America Yeah, I think like as like think about the Not at the moment, not at the moment but going from one side to the other you get everything you've got the army should at some point you've got the deep south and then you've got to there is something very not like there is something because there's a bunch of people who like when I say how many times I've been to the US going a few times.
That's why you usually
bring it up. No, but a lot of people have pushed back on the US like like, ah, especially, I think a pill from Europe, but like it's a little bit below that like ah, why would you want to accent like Why? Why?
Yeah, you can do it.
My grandpa? No, but yeah, the thing with the US I feel at the moment is just the the gun laws you think about like the the gun laws and when you there it doesn't necessarily feel like it's impacting your experience. But then you think about all the unrest is upward unrest You think about the like the tensions you think about like all the destabilisation, like
think about how many people have guns.
Yeah. Isn't it crazy like they talk about like, defund the police and Zhi Fei did a great crystal did a great carousel on Instagram talking about what defunding the place means. It's like San Francisco has done a bunch where they're taking cash from the places but they're putting it into community programmes. So it's like if you have a dispute with you with a neighbour rather than sending the cops who have military grade force you have someone that's a little bit more reasonable that can talk about it got the real meaning of it and then there's the people that literally think we don't want to pull it yeah just fucking ready and so that scared the idea that like you're relying on a bunch of people who just have guns civilians to be doing it that's not that you can you can join you can connect to the whole thing is non criminal matters. You shouldn't be held Canada by the way. They could be something else that which you know how much I love calling triple zero. So that's a new new number that you could call more because there's a lot of matters that aren't criminal that are still going on neighbours were loud last night spewing I didn't have the megaphone.
I was just like, Look, I just felt like such like a wimp.
When I was in Texas, driving, you know, driving from Vegas through to San Diego, you go through Texas, I think. No, not Texas.
From where, sorry, Vegas, you'd be Arizona. Arizona. Yeah.
And so there's relax Gamble's there and pull into the service station. And we've got the nice shirt, no shoes, no in no entrance, which we didn't know about. And we had no shoes, no shirt on. Just a couple of guys in a convertible Australia entry into Yeah, and then my mate got told to come out. And then this guy's walking out. He's just got singlet like a shoestring singlet. What is the shoe string singlet George. I'm assuming it's like a really thin Kind of
Yeah. Does it even hide the nips?
Yeah, but just like if you just went over he slit. Anyway, this guy had a huge gun on his revolver on his hip when he was just a, just a everyday grok. And I said to him, so that he was really friendly and I was like, Man, it's ridiculous. You can have a gun on your hip, but we can't go in without a tripod. He's like, Yeah, no, it's fucking crazy man.
Look at my singlet
and then I get into fires nine. But it's Yeah, it's, it's full. It's full on. So your point being we can't do a
well no, no, we can do it like the us a moment. Yeah, it'd be crazy to go to too much going on. But yeah, there is.
Where would you be? Where would you like to go?
In America anywhere. So you've got we've got a bus. We've got like a coat. I would like to do America. Yeah, eventually. You haven't done America before? not properly. Like Where have you been? I've been to San Fran. And that's Pretty much it Yeah, well genuine so and then I was camping in the bush for 12 days at a Eclipse festival in Oregon nice which was fun sounds like so you editing video yeah we made we think we made like four or five Dockers for the festival and it was yes it was like 12 days camping in the bush middle of summer it's like 40 degrees dusty
and but yeah we saw the the solar eclipse which was
that's what sent away glasses
yeah sir ice surface where would you like to have like a scene for the whole you know the everyone that everyone on a bus
I mean Russia would be interesting
I can I get that
No, I just say there's
a there's a like it's pretty interesting like I met like the crema mentioned doing it outside the Kremlin
that Absolutely wouldn't be glad
they filmed Tom Cruise so we should be right Mike with Tom Cruise
my mind didn't get he couldn't didn't have enough time to apply for the visa to get into Russia you need to apply so you might not get in might not get in. But you can get in for 90 hours or something. You catch a boat from close by but coming in via boat gives you a window of like 90 hours imagine it's like the 90 hour 99 hours in Russia.
The that is I like that idea. There's a book emergency by Neil Strauss he did the game. It's all about Doomsday preppers or billionaires and what they do and passports and stuff, talking about different passports you can have and I went down a huge rabbit hole of like, becoming obsessed of wanting to have multiple passports. I got only I've got no reason for it. But it's a fun fact. vana Watteau, you can do citizen by investment. So, which is a lot, which is a lot what a lot of these countries do. I think it's about 250,000. So you could put 250,000 maybe in a property maybe in the business can't remember. But interesting fact, they have a deal with Russia. And so you can visit Russia, like you would say Australia going into the states or intend to so where are you? Why
would why is that happened? Why is Vanuatu he literally
looked that up to make sure In fact, check me please. Yeah,
I love that bit.
That's bizarre. I was thinking last night I had the thought put it on our Discord. I don't know if any of you guys caught it. It's a little bit self indulgent. But I welcome the idea of doing a throwback discord channel. So it's called the throwback club. And what we do is every single day we listen as a collective everyone who wants to, if you've got a little bit of spare time, so it I know most of the time, like, you might just get through these episodes, that's fine, whatever. But for people with like, I want to listen to something else or I want to go back to the old episodes, what we do is we say, starting today, the club is listening to episode one. And then every single weekday, we go through the next episode. So tomorrow with Episode Two, then three. And then it means that we're all aligned listening, and we can all point out the funny things that we heard or shit we should be cancelled for or how much we've changed.
What do you think? No, I love it. Someone someone called me out for something. It was, um, something about my radio voice.
I think that was Mr. Zuma.
fair point. But it was, I think it was from Episode 12 or 1414. Yeah, from Episode 14. Right. It's a great idea. I see the connection to indulgent.
Well, I did it last night. I had the idea and waited like two minutes. For responses I saw nothing and turned it off. I say people have joined in like they've said they'll do it. So episode one today go back now here's a tip for you as well. Oliver on discord was wanting to listen to Episode 14. You're saying I can't find it in Apple podcasts. Now, the annoying thing about Apple podcasts is the way that they have it set up is they have I believe it's a 300 episode cap. But that cap is only within the podcast search function. So if you search the daily talk show, and you are looking at a podcast through that you can scroll and you won't get to the bottom of the episodes. However, if you're subscribed, and you go to your library within Apple podcasts, you click on the podcast that you're wanting to listen to an old episode like the the daily talker. You can then scroll down and say all episodes get to me.
Yeah, how long would it take you to work that out because we were worried we were taken off.
So we did have we had a situation at one point, going back six months ago where our host had, I think it was
or 600 episode limit. It's a good problem if you're doing any podcasts. And so
how many people have 600 episodes on their podcast?
That's a good point. Can we find out how many people have a podcasting to
find over 700 shot Rain Man, if you could work out a way that would be gonna be cool. And so you're saying who's who's doing that? Because anything they'd be, you know, I'm just trying to find some
Google podcasts I find very annoying, because
I do it. I don't have Google. So Google podcast. Like,
I feel like the Google homes that have a Google Home I struggle a bit like I even asked. It's gotten worse. I asked last night for it to play Hamish and Andy. They don't have a machine it likes it. Yeah, they would like playing stuff from like an old feed. I think that podcast one mustn't have done a deal or something. Whatever the bullshit is. So that's annoying bit And even I noticed like,
I mean, it's there.
Yeah, so it's weird. So but you speak to google home and she doesn't know. And then like even the daily talk show sometimes works. And then sometimes I'll say it No, just be fucking
him or at Matt de velas. House.
Alexa, who's Matt D Avella to know who's Josh Janssen. Not sure. Who's Tommy jacket is Bo. He was pulling on something animation and spin up a little shady. Yeah, that's great. Can you ask I want to know what that said. If you've got one at home, can you ask Alexa, see if it's still going, who's Tommy jacket.
And then Josh Janssen as well. And
yeah, and just say who superior Josh was cancelled out.
Sona reminded me of this, the Florida guy that I watched about the criminals being included in databases and you don't want to say that and have the same name as a criminal. Jemma watts had that issue. Yes.
Yeah, yeah not ideal
might they cancelling too and chase
me saying that I saw a Facebook thing
and I was I was wondering what were the name and where the brand come from it came from a shirt Yeah. Which then I was just thinking regardless of my thoughts on whether the remove the name currencies as a thing. Unfortunately, if you've got those names I can there's a bunch of names in the future where you didn't choose to have that name.
If you're I don't, I'm sure there's very few adults.
It bullshit. I don't I believe Germany surely that name sort of went out of fashion. What about any like new documentary? GIF? Having the surname Epstein
Can you have I know I know someone is. Upstate. I mean, Epstein's a very common but
what I'm saying is the stain to the name like ISIS. ISIS very common girl's name, Coronavirus Alexa virus but Corona Alexa is
an Now Alex and Mimi icon, their daughter's name's Alexa. Born before Amazon, can you look up the Add off net? I reckon service. This is from July 2018. There's 46,000 people in Germany living with the name many 46,000
that's a lot that's a lot of people who
who is calling their kid at off
all net like
I make 46,000 parents for it was 46 times by two 622 92,000 parents don't have to tell 92,000 parents had decided that they kids should be called out off.
That's how many
I recommend probably I know what you mean. How many of them are sort of like white supremacists? So
none of them they German and that's a probably a common name in Germany. I reckon. Do you think About the pseudonym Hitler
I'm still mean to there's a difference. I reckon the whole I think that in Germany that would have huge sensitivities to the name at off
site 46,000 people
i don't i recommend that if we would I wish we could bring in the coals I lost till spill half my German
food i'm not i'm not i'm not saying
you're, you're saying that. Oh, it's probably like a Why
do you think why?
Tell me what it is. They're 46,000 people called Ed off.
It does go back a few years. If it wasn't then but
I'm saying the sensitive is there that the people how many
people and Thomas in Australia, can we get a number?
It's one of the most common names
What do you it's got to be? How many hundred and 10,000? No more than are. A lot of
3 million. We know you're wanting one in seven people.
That's all. I was joking What? How many Thomas's out here? Yeah.
This is cool data that they could spit out, like based on birth records and then a fun cert like, you don't have to say who the person is. But if you're just wanting to workshop a baby on it.
I think the idea though that you're pushing, which is in Germany adult like it's a common
is that what you're saying? I'm saying that
it's obviously a German name. And you're saying there's a huge sensitivity around people called off and I'm saying why they're 46,000 people. That's not to say there isn't a sensitive No, it was
that like, if you you've obviously like the person who calls their kid at off, obviously isn't bothered by their kid having the same name as that off Hitler. And so if that's the case, my vibe bees, they probably slightly tweaked.
But I think I think they would also look at all the medals, misunderstood the lack of understanding about Australia's history and cook. like think about the I think that
I feel like Nazis, Germany, all that sort of thing like
people living a lot of flack we're not live
but I think that like in Germany there's shoot like, you just have to go into the streets to be like, Oh, shit went it like people are extremely sensitive and aware of it. I don't know, anyway,
definitely be sensitive people and but I think there also be a massive, massive amount of people that aren't that sensitive or aware of it, hence why they're calling their kids at off. Wow, how is that not the case? Because you don't call your kid at all if you're sensitive about Adolphe Hitler, and the history Who the fuck is
But I think there's a difference between now I read a connection for me and my sensitive that I understand.
That's the whole point. The point is that you're like
i'm not German either. But you're not German I reckon. And this is why we should just recently the asker James Cook is there the same James Cook? I think there will be sensitivity around James's moving forward, my middle name fac, and thought it out.
But this is the ability as as the awareness grows as the education builds, is that what's gonna happen this is the thinking around this is what we're talking about names and what it means in history and who's connected to them. And as it evolves and you know, it being forgotten and then a new round you know, like in 200 ds, is that all coming back in as a night?
No, no. What do you think JB? I put beside No, no idea. Yeah, I guess no. My bad I i understand like, if you are calling your son out of Maybe, yeah, maybe you are a little bit. You don't care about the history.
It's what I'm saying you do it how would you do it if you realised and understood the history If you'd been to Russia, maybe,
maybe they do.
And they're just kind of pried off. There are a few people still out there. That's right. Probably Hitler. Yeah. And selectively.
And so these more people sensitive to that they're not.
Yeah, you would think that.
Yeah, I mean, Germans are sensitive about their history and how fucked up
Can you look that up? So it's like, Is there any details on the name at all in regards to sensitivities? Surely, so, by the way, Thomas peaked in 1940. Oh, in the US, guy.
All right. Thomas 1940. They are releasing the word of the year or phrase of the year in the coming weeks. So it goes into the dictionary I think, last year, not sure was that one of the years was podcasting. I don't know why we have saves my computer's down.
George, what are you doing? Ah, sorry.
What are you doing Sam serves to get a mouse pad so that he doesn't we don't hear the whole episodes. Yeah,
I'd love to get a neuro link to be honest. That was the coolest into 197.
Yeah, word of the year in
2017. Yeah. was fake news. Two words.
Trump. Trump did that.
In 2017. Trump did that for sure.
So if let's finish up if you want to be involved in the throwback club, start listening to Episode One, two. That's great idea.
Alrighty. Ah, okay. Look, he got 13 children when they end off between 2006 and 2013 46 have been named at off since 2013.
It's on the rise. So it has arisen from looking at the numbers.
Yeah. That's a worry. But same super, super small. Still not many 46 isn't that many people? I mean, what's the population of Germany? Huh?
I recommend. I record it for a million I'm sure there's Germans listening yelling at us pain like, of course,
hang on Wait, wait,
yelling at what we're not saying no sensitivity, we're saying that why people still using it. They're clearly the ones that don't have a sensitivity about it. It's exactly what George said. There's nothing to argue here at all, there's nothing out I think, no, it's not being angry. What I'm saying is that
what I say? I'm saying that you're
on Android I phrases, the way that you're communicating. It's like saying art and I think that a lot more people are caught like that, for a lot of people ad off isn't like the name isn't an issue in Jamaica.
I said for obviously, for the people that have called their kids that it's known. But of course, I think as I said, more people would be sensitive to it than not, which is totally understandable. And I would be so that I'm not saying anything that I'm not saying which is where you can get in a pickle of looking at what people what you think they're saying, but it's not what they said,
Well, yeah, I think that there's something in like the point of arguing a point. So I think that where it can be problematic is sometimes people will argue like, just play devil's advocate or whatever you want to say. So may saying, Surely there's not many people called at all. And then pushing back on that, or then being like, Oh, well, maybe it's not a thing. I feel like is a very hot like, it's it's hard.
It's a hard debate to have a I don't think it's not a thing, though. Mm hmm. This is where we need to bring in these
are this is the interesting thing. What was the What do you think Jamie? About the argument?
Yeah, the arguments. So that's what I mean. Yeah. What we're talking about is
no argument. Yeah, this is clearly there's some people that aren't sensitive, which is a small amount. Yeah, there'll be a higher amount that are very sensitive to it. So there's nothing I can't I can't be fucked with this.
I mean, this is what like you end up in these conversation. And this this happens at like family events end up in a big fucking conversations like actually, if you're not saying like, from what you were saying, I thought that there was a bunch of information that you were missing and then so that I'm trying to communicate on this is what I actually think. And then by the end of it, the person's like are well I wasn't saying that I thought well okay well there was a lot of tension here and there was a lot of conversation about something that apparently you don't like fucking how that was pined I'm so sorry everyone that was so fucking painful. I'm sorry I brought anything up.
Stats quick place is the megaphone
even just brought it here. I don't think it's even a statistician. I reckon like breehn stats you saw how like when Sims had the wrong stat, or the 46,000 without the context in the last four years. Yeah. How like, quickly and enables you to be like, fucking see, there's 46,000
I still believe that that there's a lot of people that's a lot of people is that not
but I mean they would have been born before.
To be different if they're all dead now.
A lot of them would have been born after. Yeah, yeah.
Angles just coming
What do we got here? You guys? I reckon it's
so annoying. All right.
It's a daily talk show. We'll see you tomorrow guys have a good one. See you guys