#710 – Best Of 700 Episodes: Day 1/
- May 2, 2020
It’s Georgie Boy’s Highlights of the last 700 episodes: Day 1! We look back at some fond memories including our New York trip to meet Seth Godin, starting our production company BIG MEDIA COMPANY, 3D-Dyl’s announcement, and milestone episode 100 with Hamish Blake.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we look back on:
– #190 – This Is Seth Godin
– #206 – BIG MEDIA COMPANY Values
– #380 – July One
– #159 – Jules Lund – Business, Balance And Being The Boss
– #153 – Tommy’s Ex Co-Host & Thinkergirl Stacey June
– #499 – Craig Bruce & Jay Mueller On Understanding Your Audience & Team
– #274 – Gemma’s Not A Munter
– #100 – Hamish Blake on life
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The Daily Talk Show is an Australian talk show and daily podcast by Tommy Jackett and Josh Janssen. Tommy and Josh chat about life, creativity, business, and relationships — big questions and banter. Regularly visited by guests and gronks! If you watch the show or listen to the podcast, you’re part of the Gronk Squad.
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Unknown Speaker 0:04
The Daily talk show and it is Georgie boys highlights. I'm Georgie boy. Josh isn't here to do the normal intro Tommy's not here to say, what's happening, guys what's going on? Mr. 97 is not here to Google stuff. He's probably a facetiming Grice right now. Now the boys are actually having a little bit of a slump, because we just finished our 24 hour livestream celebrate 700 episodes. And now I'm in charge. And I've put together some of my highlights of the last 700 shows. There's some really great conversations in there with creative people, businessmen and women around the world. There's some funny episodes that stood out to me as a listener in the early days.
Unknown Speaker 0:50
And, most importantly, I think it's just a look back at how the show is involved.
Unknown Speaker 0:57
The work ethic that the boys have in Consistently showing up every single day to do the show, and learn from people that they chat to. I think that's pretty much what the show is all about if you've listened before, you know that consistency in growth, and constantly learning is basically what this show is all about. So it's good to just have a look back at some of the old bits that you might not have heard. So anyway, I guess we'll just get into it. The first bit that I want to throw back to was from Episode 190. This is back when it was audio only. And it's with it an interview with the guru, Seth Godin. If you ask those boys, what's been your highlight over the last couple of years, they'll both go back to this day. This is like, you know, Seth Godin to them is probably like Ryan Shelton to me, bloody love him. And I look up to him. And so to set the scene there in New York City in Seth's office, Josh, I've been travelling and come to the end of his travels call me had flown over to meet him. And they had this chat. And it's actually the only app out of 700, where they didn't have to put the little explicit symbol next to the show because it was no swearing, which is great. So anyway, I thought I'd start with this one, because over the next couple of days, in these highlights, sets name will be mentioned around 400 times, because they just love him so much. So let's start with that one, Episode 190 with Seth Godin,
should I talk a lot about volume of ideas and you've got no shortage? Do you find that when there's a volume of ideas? Is there a point at some of them which you go, I'm gonna hold off on that because it's not there yet. Or with the volume you say, I need to get this out the door.
Unknown Speaker 2:52
Okay, so the purpose of First of all, I think everyone has a volume of ideas. I have never met anyone who actually had nothing to say. I've met lots of people who are afraid to say something. But no one gets talkers block.
Josh Janssen 3:08
Yeah, right. Your April Fool's, by the way really got me because I got so good. So Seth did a poll saying he'd run out of ideas. And I thought, I felt so good about it. I was like, you know what I feel like I finally, I don't feel like a complete schmuck. And
Unknown Speaker 3:21
I read at the
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end, it's an April Fool's joke, and I was the ultimate smile.
Unknown Speaker 3:25
I gotta tell you, that
Unknown Speaker 3:30
50 people use that post as an opportunity to do something that they thought was really generous, but was actually a commentary about them in there. Yeah, the way you just honestly talked about, which is they sent me these notes. Oh, have you thought about this so badly? I know what it's like to wrestle with writer's block. And they were It was shocking for it. They were thrilled that I was out of ideas. Want to be around
Josh Janssen 3:54
like misery likes company.
Unknown Speaker 3:58
Were heartbroken when I played it out. nada. So anyway, I don't I don't think that people
Unknown Speaker 4:05
have a shortage of ideas. I do believe that, for me anyway, the blog serves a huge purpose, which is if I had to wait a year between books, and that was it, there would definitely be constipation of where do I put this idea, it's gonna blow up until I get the next one. So I know that 365 days a year, I get to take something that was worthy of seven paragraphs but not worthy of a book of a year of my life, and say to people have you thought about this. And there are at least 100 posts that are currently in gestation, where they're not ready to be on the blog, but they're written down so I can make them better because if I don't do that, this happened to me almost every day. I'll be in the shot. That is a great blog post and I'll get out of Chicago. I have no idea what it was. God and of course, it's the perfect one. Cuz it's gone yeah it's gone. It's like oh like that was the best post
ever Alibaba there's probably some sort of shower notepad that
Josh Janssen 5:09
Do you find that people get obsessed about the the rituals that people have like I know that when when you talk about what you have for breakfast I heard on it. I think it was on being Krista Tippett, you would telling what you have for breakfast and I got so excited by just the way that you described it. What do you think it Why is there an obsession for just across the board? It's like, what are your daily rituals? What are your habits? What do you weigh? Exactly?
Unknown Speaker 5:36
So this is I have a riff on this in your turn. And basically, it's about people asking Stephen King what kind of pencil he uses? As if knowing what then do they actually do this? As if knowing what kind of pencil Stephen King uses will make you a better writer? Yeah. And so I Chris is a dear friend. So it was fun to riff on that but I almost never fall into that trap because I don't want to indulge People in thinking it has anything to do with, you know, superstitions or tools or things like this, because it doesn't like yeah, if you're a graphic designer and you move from freehand to Photoshop, it will change things for you. I get that. But Milton Glaser became Milton Glaser with a pen. Yeah, so don't get hung up on I have to do it the way that person I didn't talk to you breakfast. That's this. I should stop.
Josh Janssen 6:32
Yeah, because like I was thinking about placebo effect, you know, you're talking about that placebo effect. But isn't there something potentially in Oh, you're saving kings pen and it's gonna help me write better.
Unknown Speaker 6:44
I you know, a friend of mine was taking the LSAT and
Unknown Speaker 6:49
there was a guy who sort of as a Joe became the world's greatest pencil sharpener. And for $50, he would give you a custom sharpened pencil in this beautiful presentation. In case that would like have been sharpened to a micro metre for each purpose. And so I hand this to my friend the day before the sad This is. And it's huge. I just don't want to be in that business. Yeah, I totally get placebos are huge in that setting. But as soon as I go down that path, then I'm a faith healer and I that's not my approach my approach is to, to try to approach it more strategically and less with the fairy dust.
Hmm. When it comes to putting the value on yourself, I've had my own business for the majority of my working life. And I've always kind of, you know, set the point of which I think I'm worth started charging that and then thought Hang on, I could be making more money and I'm not there internally feeling that I'm of that value, right? But then somehow somehow I stumbled and I get the value and then I'm like, I'm worth it. How does people who are running their own business
Unknown Speaker 7:59
right Request get
to that sort of feeling inside? And do you even need to have that feeling?
Unknown Speaker 8:04
Okay, so first of all, price and value are totally different things. And you have to decode that if you're going to be the person who's charging for your work, what you would pay you to do it is different than what someone else would pay you.
Unknown Speaker 8:19
I'll do it for free.
Unknown Speaker 8:21
Right? And so, we begin with price is a service and it's a service that helps the client identify what kind of promise are you making? And so, you know, in in India, there's a hospital that will that has saved the eyesight of more people than the some populations of Chicago, Los Angeles and Detroit put together and they will do cataract surgery on you for $115 or free if you don't want to pay and the message of their pricing says to people in India, you can afford this you don't have to be blind, right? So there's an absolute value of what's going on. But not 20 blocks from there. If you're a wealthy person living in India, you can buy an or mez bag for $10,000. Is it worth it? Well, I'm not sure it's worth. What is that 100 times as much as getting your eyesight back? How could it be, right? But if you have your eyesight, and you're rich, the your mess bag is worth way more than $10,000. Because it sends a message to your friends and your family. And you're the kind of person that could have a $10,000 back, and so are mezes not stealing from people. They're saying, if you want to buy this symbol, this is what the symbol cost. If it's not worth it, you don't buy it. Right. So, when we think about, for example, those firms that do naming, when NBC wants to change its logo, they pay $100,000 to one of those firms. Turns out they got a logo that someone does The street would have built for 200. So they ripped off? I don't think so. Because what they got for hundred thousand dollars was all the meetings was the fancy office was the ability to tell their boss to hire at the top of the field, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's what you sell. So I don't think it's am I worth it? It's, is my story coherent? And am I making a promise I can keep. And the last thing I'll say about this is if you're a freelancer, the only way to do better is not to work more hours, because you can't work more hours is not to hire people to do your work because they're not going to be as good as you. It's to get better clients. freelancers, with better clients charge those clients more. Those clients demand more from them are more likely to say yes to good work, which helps them get even better clients. So the way you get better clients is by charging more not by charging less.
Unknown Speaker 10:53
The next episode I want to throw back to is number 206. And I love this one the boys have just returned from overseas and they're starting to To go into business together with their new company, big media company, and they've written out a set of values. I love these values. I think that not only super reflective of the production company that they run, but the really reflective of the show, and them as people. Once you listen to any other episode with these values in the back of your mind, it all makes sense. This is what they live by. And I think they're great. Before that though. There's a kid in the office called Mason, who they're trying to come up with a nickname for so here we go to Essex.
Last Friday, we had young Mason on the show. who helps out around the big ad company hole. Yeah, otherwise known as the main room. One room one room one room. Yeah, he helps her out. Look. Yeah, well, He's here. He's just does stuff. And you wanted to throw me a nickname?
Josh Janssen 11:51
Yeah, we there was a few that came up on our Reddit page, including Mayo, Mason key, come here for a second, just Mason's working today so he doesn't really he doesn't have a mic but can you explain why we why was unique name Mayo as a kid?
Unknown Speaker 12:10
I used to I used to for a Minecraft username. It was it was back in back in back in primary school.
Josh Janssen 12:17
So what 2017
Unknown Speaker 12:21
Unknown Speaker 12:22
it was one of those auto generated usernames for Minecraft. Now when you register for Mayor 23 So,
God it's a pool from his nerd Mayor about what nice and once told me he said I was at my mates post over the weekend. And we were all hanging out you got it was pretty light. And yeah, me and my mates all decided to do our tax returns, which is what he does for fat.
Unknown Speaker 12:45
That's the kind of kid we've got
Unknown Speaker 12:46
in our studio is three 3am tax returns here.
Unknown Speaker 12:50
Right no better time to do your tax
Josh Janssen 12:51
return. But what what was this the moment that you thought we should do? Our tax did? Did you might work out a hashtag scheme. Yeah, you had like a tax avoidance. But was it? What was the remember the actual reason why you decided to do it?
Unknown Speaker 13:09
Not really, it was sort of just sort of just happened.
Josh Janssen 13:11
It's not happy to work and then it just, well, he doesn't drink or smoke weed. Yeah, well, neither of those two. So, I mean, I would if it were three if the only difference between my son and I is that I would have been in bed. never gotten to it, but Okay, so if you had to choose between the nicknames Mr. 97, which is referring to your enter score, which is 97 better than Tommy Yeah, and brings our high score around 140. So, are you happy with Mr. 97 or Mayo? Mr. 97? Let's go with that. Yeah, there we go. I think Fuck it. Like what else you gonna use your score for? Yeah, this is perfect. All right, well, so Mason's helping us at the moment with a Facebook pixel,
let me find 97.
Josh Janssen 14:02
But can I just quickly mention like maybe company showreel?
Unknown Speaker 14:06
Yeah, guy friend?
Josh Janssen 14:09
I guess I asked. No. So what they didn't know today we've been working on. So yesterday we spent all day getting consolidating all Yeah, footage.
Yeah, we did. And one of our new principles of our company value is the little things.
Josh Janssen 14:25
No things matter. Should I go I've actually read out them No. So sorry.
He's a hot thing. Right. We've been working on such little things over the last week or so. Which I think you can get the feeling that you're not gaining progress.
Josh Janssen 14:42
You know, it's okay said progress. Progress. It's sort of a bit Adelaide Ian, thank you. Nothing,
I think so. I suggest Mr. 97 is walked out
Unknown Speaker 14:50
without values. I appreciate a piece of paper currently on just a piece of paper here.
Yeah, but don't you agree like you can feel like you're not Making progress moving forward. Like you're not moving forward when you are doing little things, but I think, because they feel like such little tasks, but
Josh Janssen 15:09
from little things, big things. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 15:11
no, but that's
Josh Janssen 15:12
what I'll let you carry the values, values we have celebrate others. So I'll read them all. And then we can talk to each point. Yeah, like this. So this is the big media, company values, celebrate others, small things matter. Learn through action. The big picture, lead the way Yeah,
I just want to say around coming up with values for business. I had this discussion with Jules lon because it is something that people like Jacques de Llosa, the entrepreneur pushes, you know, he's people, he's people that come through his entrepreneur school to really hone in on and focus. And I remember talking to Jules Lund, about this in the early days of tribe, when you haven't, so you sort of manufacturing these, this set of almost rules. Have beliefs before you've got into the nitty gritty of the business and really worked out stuff. And for jewels, it was really coming from doing radio into status, new tech company hiring CEO. Whereas I've felt in the past with my businesses that I've had multiple have and haven't seen through, or they've led me to where I am now, whichever way you want to look at it. I've never been able to really hold and lock on to some values because it's probably I've been, it's it's been a requirement of doing the business after business after business to sort of gain this understanding or perspective of where I want to be where I am and where I want to be. And what I'm holding true to. And we did this in half a day, where we have such a solid like space of time, like we would have spent four hours of just,
Josh Janssen 16:51
you know, deconstructing problems that we've had previously and basically throwing problems at our values. Yeah, or throwing problems and saying how we how can we actually fix this and get the outcome that we would want through having a set of values that would filter? Yeah.
And how would they apply to actions that we need to take and what we're doing with our business, and I did find it much and and so my thought was around the you know, trying to do this straight out of high school with some new business you've got it is hard because you haven't waded through all these slides. You haven't had the hiccups, the mistakes the learnings yet?
Josh Janssen 17:33
I think like the analogy that I think about within a business, if you think about a business as a kid, it's like an actual bang. It's a baby. Yeah. And so if it's your first business do it is creating a set of values is hypothesising with your partner before your kids born about how you're going to raise a kid Yeah. And so you have these perfect case in our everything is filtered. The perfect case scenario. Yeah. And where I think values actually become Mason, you can just mute that. That's just Bray. Trying to call me. I've got it set up on my new computer site, every fucking device rings. Yeah. But so if you think about the, what we're doing, we've actually had a couple of kids by now right with and we've seen them through a decent chunk of their life and we know where we've gotten things wrong things that have, we've had conversations with the school about their behaviour. We've done all of that. And what it means is that you can move forward on some things, but you can also work out what values I think are important. This next episode is so so funny. It's number 380. And this is where Josh has catchphrase of put it in the calendar started. It's It's July one and there's a lot announcements going on today. Josh has his own announcement which Tommy will talk about at the start. But more importantly, 3d deal has his own announcement that just completely overshadows Josh's and makes it look so sweet.
Unknown Speaker 19:13
The fact that three day deal an intern for the show for four months has managed to pull this off is just incredible. And this is such such a good app. So I hope you enjoy this one. 380 the main priority for me over the weekend was to fulfil this promise. fulfil the
promise that was made last November. I think it was and the due date has been getting pushed back and June 30 was the day that we were going to smash out the last bit for a hopeful delivery of the Seth Godin handwritten book by July one yeah, welcome to July
Josh Janssen 19:51
one boys. Colin clever in the what was interesting was I made the I think it was about a month and a half ago that I said, July one, putting it in the calendar
was at the end of financial year that made it feel nice. Like, you know, a lot of us like to set goals and with the start date,
Unknown Speaker 20:13
January one now it's well, I think it was because well,
Unknown Speaker 20:18
this is what I had in my head. Yeah, July one.
Josh Janssen 20:23
Multi camera switching. Yeah. Okay. You knew motion graphics intro.
Yeah. The moon in full rotation
Josh Janssen 20:30
that the web the new website launched. And here we are,
Mr. 97. married.
Josh Janssen 20:40
dreaming big apparently. But everything. The thing is that we put the thing that I've learned is you put in a date yet. And then whilst you might not meet the date, and that's not me saying that I hadn't met the date. But it's sort of propels you. Yeah. From a motivational point of view. I know what you mean. So there's a few things we will find out on today's episode of The Daily talk show has Josh completed the Seth Godin, this is marketing book and written and we will also find out today, what three day deals his announcement is. So that's where I was. I was going to mention when I said about this July one, a lot of things happening. a three day deal started what could only be described as a campaign
leading up to one of the greatest marketing campaigns for an announcement
Unknown Speaker 21:33
he should be running. This is marketing.
Josh Janssen 21:37
My god, he's gonna rip off his face in a
Unknown Speaker 21:42
three day deal. Yeah,
Josh Janssen 21:44
it's July one. It is indeed 2019. It's 4:17pm here in Melbourne, Australia. What is your announcement?
Well, first off, happy Canada Day to people listening in Canada. credit. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. And also, it was my parents 23rd wedding anniversary on June 29. So you mentioning the anniversary thing? Yeah, I mean, that caught me on to it. So yeah, props to my parents because they are part of the reason that I'm here doing NLP on
Unknown Speaker 22:18
your way out. I'd also
I'd also like to thank my my producer and know this, this all started I actually, I unintentionally teased this way back in March when we facetimed for the first time on episode 307 What do you say?
Josh Janssen 22:36
And I said, Well, that's gonna be the announcement, I think, isn't it? No. Okay,
you got to let me finish okay. So it was all in the conversation we were having you guys were talking about like, what do you want to do when you get down here what's what do you want to learn etc, etc. And I had this idea of like, I want to make some kind of a short film, or like 20 to 30 minute process video of how came from being this college student to now moving to Australia for four months. And that kind of the vision of that kind of died for me, as in when you're rocked here
Unknown Speaker 23:13
He's nearly fell off. But uh, no, it just the video aspect of it didn't feel the right way for me to tell that story. So if we go back to June 13 12 hours before I cut my thumb off, and I made those Instagram stories.
Josh Janssen 23:32
Yeah. What were the Instagram stories you told
me was walking through those walking through one of the parks after going to a
Josh Janssen 23:42
so that was the day after is when you cut? Yeah,
yeah. Literally 12 hours later. Okay.
Josh Janssen 23:48
And that's an excuse for why the announcements happening. I'm gonna be spewing. No, no, no,
I'm building it up a bit. Okay. And Queen gronk you were you you were lying in bed. Josh, and you saw my Instagram posts right? And you posted a cute little smug mug shot of yourself saying in bed wondering what 3d Dale is going to announce. Yeah, you remember that? I think
Josh Janssen 24:17
Yeah, I did a response to you.
Unknown Speaker 24:20
Josh Janssen 24:22
something quite chilling about the white Friday dude.
Unknown Speaker 24:27
Like he's nice his body language is
Josh Janssen 24:31
closed I just saw miss a nice seven look at the door the
Queen gronk Gemma watts at 10:13pm almost a full 12 hours before I actually cut my thumb off, messages you and says maybe he's written a book.dot.to which you replied with some weird stupid emoji. If he's beaten me to the punch dot dot dot and I don't remember what happened. After that, because I screenshotted it because I was like, wow, the post has been up for 13 minutes. Yeah, and Gemma got it right, right off the bat. So I took my idea to do a short form process video of how it came from being this college student living in a basement to living in Australia. And actually wrote a book about it in a month and a half. And I'd also like to point out that I wrote half of it. I wrote about 25,000 words with a fucked up thumb. When are you doing? Are you doing this in the evenings, I'll do it in the evenings. And in my spare time,
let me read between the lines, you're releasing an E book
I'm releasing, it's gonna be an E book, a physical book and an audio book. So on august first, August 2, sorry, because that's a Friday.
Josh Janssen 25:56
Do what I did.
August 2, and he printed An audio book will be available on Amazon and about two weeks after that date, it'll be available on iTunes. And near the end of August, but the it's, it's called I'm still figuring it out. That's it. That's that's the name of it. Right? The best part is, is that it's all original. I didn't have to copy it off of anything.
Josh Janssen 26:24
We say can we say some form of proof of 35,000? What can can we turn
it back? Mason actually drove me to Office works to pick up the manuscript and didn't even realise my
son doesn't drive. Oh, but he did.
Unknown Speaker 26:39
Unknown Speaker 26:40
who I was driving. I was driving him. I
was in the front seat. Yes.
Josh Janssen 26:47
You gotta be kidding me. He's actually it's very
heavy. Can I? This is, Oh, look at that. He's even gone through and done.
So I'm in the process of editing it right now. Hey, With my left
Josh Janssen 27:04
job winding is phenomenal.
Unknown Speaker 27:07
This is everything you could have done.
Unknown Speaker 27:09
This could be
Unknown Speaker 27:11
stolen your announcement
Josh Janssen 27:13
is taken I'm so impressed very primitive you've told you um you your college tutors that you were unable to get the you meant to be working on something else for school an essay was an essay
yeah absolutely do like a 10 page essay is it's about 140 at the moment chase do we get a mention? You will?
Unknown Speaker 27:38
What we haven't yet do want me to
know I don't know you guys
Josh Janssen 27:42
don't me to do I'm gonna write a random don't write it right i think it should be in your voice.
Yeah, I can I can.
Unknown Speaker 27:51
Talk It is so impressive.
Unknown Speaker 27:51
voiceover work you.
Josh Janssen 27:55
So you've got to look at the YouTube video because it's the thickness I mean you're using double spacing
as you should with a printed man. Yeah.
Josh Janssen 28:09
I know. You're right. No,
yes. I just write, write. Write them you can rewrite. I can rewrite. We go you can rewrite mine. Okay, here we go. I'm still just I'm trying to find one of my favourite parts about it. So
Unknown Speaker 28:28
how did you walk in like how did you plan what you're gonna write? I wrote it down
this second day I was here
Josh Janssen 28:39
contents Oh yeah, that's right the the yellow pads Yeah, yeah, that's what you've been using God. Yes,
it is him, man. Just with meticulous plan. Yep. How is this? How is
Unknown Speaker 28:50
this going on Amazon? Can you just can anyone just uploads
Amazon self publishing? Okay, so I'm doing an indie publishing because I want to retain you may have rights. Picked it up. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 29:00
Yeah, not Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 29:04
Unknown Speaker 29:08
This is crazy.
Josh Janssen 29:11
All right. So can you read us write us a bit in your voice? I've heard voice plays. Yeah. All right.
When I was a kid, I used to say I wanted to be an engineer, a scientist or a journalist, just because the words were easy, and they were there. I still don't think about what I'm going to do with the rest of my life.
Josh Janssen 29:30
It's, it's, it is so good. It explains the Instagram captions as well. It's got a certain flow to it. It's it's quite an inspiration. Okay,
tomorrow will come eventually. I'll figure it out when it gets here. What I focus on instead is what I love doing. comes up. That's all we get for now.
Josh Janssen 29:51
What are you gonna do for for a cover?
I've already designed it heavy. It'll go up on the story later tonight.
It's not here to Flexbox
Josh Janssen 30:00
It is, it is impressive.
It is very interesting. To get it done attitude. Let's pop that in.
Unknown Speaker 30:08
Now I want to go back to Episode 159, which was actually pre recorded before Josh went on his overseas trip. And it's with their good friend, Jules Lund. And he has some great advice when it comes to business. They basically give him the idea of their production company, big media company that they're going to start when Josh returns from his trip. And it's just super interesting to hear them talk about their vision for the show and how it's going to evolve over the next few years. So here we go. This is 159 with Joe's land. So Tommy, and my new business is called big media company. I haven't even told you about this.
Oh, sure, consulted with with
Unknown Speaker 30:47
I didn't invest in us.
Josh Janssen 30:49
So so we're, we've well. So where are we going into business yet? But it's big media company. We've got the domain. You know, I get off on demand. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 30:59
I mean, I do I've got thousands of dollars worth I need a prop I needed intervention by this
Josh Janssen 31:04
big media company.com. We've got big media company proprietary limited. We've got big media company on Instagram on Twitter tonight. So the idea we haven't started trading, I haven't we haven't we registered, we've got the entity. We don't trust that trade until I get it. Yeah. But essentially, the the awesome thing that we've been talking about is having people talk about scale. And it's funny what people default towards the scale of how many square metres you've got, or employees, how many employees but what we're talking about is big impact, you know, big scale in that regard, but actually a small team so you think about the Louis throughs the the Michael, you know, the michael moore's all of this. And even within radio if you actually take the core team, yeah.
You talking to people nimble in approach the creativity that can come from being nimble versus you know, thousand square metres is a question straight.
Unknown Speaker 32:02
If you how do you compete
Unknown Speaker 32:06
with the volume of competition. So what I mean is like, if you're disrupting how it was done five or 10 years ago, you win the race. But now that you're disrupting millions of people also doing the same who've seen that opportunity, and you'll have an answer for it, but I'm pumped. Yeah. Because you're itching in your seat. But my point is, that when it feels like there's a flood of that same minimalist approach to what a big media company and it feels like the world has already gone there, now, how do you differentiate?
Josh Janssen 32:44
So I think what it comes down to is you need to start working out what is the differentiating, what is your point of difference? And so, for what Tommy and I are doing is we realise that the, the actual only thing that we have But no one else has is us our experience now lens. And so what does that actually if you're to put a filter through it, what does it mean? It means that we're not just another guest podcast, we don't actually it's about short. It's about growth over a long period of time, rather than hockey stick, right so we could get so we could have had you on episode one and got a big influx of traffic bout. But what would it what would have that what would have that really done right with the way that we're going at the moment every episode we do we get to new listeners, we've you know, we've done the time of recording this. We've done over 115 episodes, so we get over 200 listeners every single episode. And so that's slow growth, what it comes down to,
Unknown Speaker 33:48
but that's that's what i mean that's doing it when it's a mad idea. And slowly building equity in your offering is awesome.
Josh Janssen 33:59
Yeah, and it's And I think it's the thing that it's, it's the work that we, we also think that that is the point of difference is the showing up every day to so there's, it's the mix of showing up every day providing a unique offering. And the other thing too is we recognise well, Tommy and I were having this discussion today we put out an episode with a guest, and I didn't lead with the guests name and the conversation and would love to get your take on it. The the conversation we're having was, should we be leading with the guests name. And so our thoughts behind on my sort of thought behind it was if, if we lead with a guests name, where we're inviting people that are fans of that specific person to listen in. And in that in the specific case that I'm talking about. I felt that it was the inch should be the topic, the specific topic that we're talking about. And then About the guest and then now hopefully enjoy what we're we're doing so I think it's about having that those those filters and being deliberate and not just, I think when I interviewed you five years ago, four years ago, whatever it was for Josh baking, I did a total of 10 episodes over fucking for years. Did what it worked out to be one every six months. But the thing is that it's there are a lot of people that because the barrier to entry is low, there are a lot of people giving it a crack. And I think that there's the voice in our head, especially after saying over 10 years of podcasting where it's like it's too late. We've missed the boat and not another fucking podcast.
Unknown Speaker 35:40
Yeah, I certainly wasn't meaning the podcast, I meant more the big media company in terms of his you know, like in terms of the offering of, you know, doing something meaning minimal and building a big but you've got to end as I said before, it's not what you get from it's who you become and If you keep crafting and building you know you're sharpening your skills
Unknown Speaker 36:05
and that's the value of it.
Josh Janssen 36:08
Yeah, I think with big media company, specifically the difference are as well as around an original content offering. So what we realise that yes, we can charge 15 $20,000 for a client video. But you know, and if you type in video production company, my business will be you know, one or two on the listings on Google. But the thing is that as we go on as the this democratisation happens, and younger people come in, that's going to become more and more a commodity. You don't want to be a commodity and so what we end up only having is ourselves in the creativity and artistry. No, you just gotta leave and leave without what
Unknown Speaker 36:56
I love about that is and I absolutely back you guys hundred percent. It's I actually also don't think you have to be very different to be very different. And I think that your unique combination of expertise and view of the world allows you to see it in a very different position than the masses. And, you know, being commercially friendly being, understanding the media landscape, the brand needs, all the way through to understanding how to craft quality content at speed. And so you know, like that, that can be everything. And don't forget, all the masses won't be accessing the networks that you guys will be. So there's,
if we're controlling the value that we're bringing, because we're in charge of that, then that then that's where the difference lies because someone can, like you said Josh, by the camera, pointed at something and shoot
Josh Janssen 37:59
and we also see scratching an itch I think that there is a it's that classic case of you saw through your experiences you know doing influencer marketing that there was this huge hole and you filled up with tribe and you can sell you can sell every day on the fact that you say this problem you saw this problem and you've come in and you've and you fix it.
Unknown Speaker 38:22
So he's he's the real question.
Unknown Speaker 38:28
So how are you guys gonna go with each other
Unknown Speaker 38:33
100 feet. So is this your Was this your engagement? This is the onboarding. Well,
Josh and I've run simultaneous businesses in the same field and found ourselves coming together to talk about them. Yeah, and to bounce off each other. So we're basically primed ourselves for the last two or three years you guys smashing each other with tough love every now and then we have really difficult conversations. Yeah. And and if you can't live through them, I don't think you'd even entertain the idea. What are you missing? What what are each other's blind spots? That's a whole episode. I think I think we have very different views on the world. And I think it's, I think Josh helps me with some of my narrow thinking on topics and empathy towards things. And then I think I help Josh simplify some of his wide broad complex.
Josh Janssen 39:28
I think I'm an over thinker and Tommy over simple, simplify things. So yeah,
Unknown Speaker 39:33
what you wanted to say was you're an over thinker, he's an under
Unknown Speaker 39:39
Josh Janssen 39:40
well, there's definitely baby arguments where I'm like, tell me you wouldn't I'm complex thinking right now. So you just don't fucking understand. What I'm saying is you
Unknown Speaker 39:48
don't have to bother your pet to walk into a tree.
Josh Janssen 39:51
It's the it's it's definitely about being able to have those hard conversations but but I think where it comes down to is were aligned in the vision and the vision for us with this podcast was we want to, we want to scale our friendship in the centre it sounds like very fucking weasel word II and startup. But what it means is I know that when I was you know working for myself, it's can be a very, very lonely journey. And Tommy and I having conversations regularly, we realise that mate ship having just having a conversation, you can take something that was very difficult in your head, and really be able to reconcile and understand that this next chat is from Episode 153 with Stacey June who has obviously been on the show many times since. But this was their first time Josh was overseas at this point, and he was also really sick and you can hear it in his voice a bit. I'm so sorry about that. But um, it's, I guess one of the first iterations of doing the show remote And it's a great chat about vulnerability and what they've learned from the thinking skills podcast. So here it is Episode 153. With Stacey June. For people who don't know, I'm currently remote. I'm in France. And I've just been spending heaps of time listening to stuff and the amount of people who are talking about vulnerability, rather than being vulnerable, like people are confusing the talking of vulnerability and let's get vulnerable. And I'm being vulnerable right now, rather than actually, like when would you in a moment that vulnerability actually point out the fact that you're being vulnerable?
Unknown Speaker 41:38
I think the interesting part on that is that everybody has different vulnerability levels to like, often when we did our radio show, everyone was saying, Oh my God, you're so vulnerable, you're so vulnerable. And so I would hear that, hear that and hear that. And then I realised in my personal life, I would think to myself, I'm being vulnerable, but that might be vulnerable for the person telling me because that person going on air and she During these personal stories is that's terrifying for them that's showing this vulnerability. But then when I met my partner, that was when I had to learn about vulnerability that was when I had to get out of this independent, you know, being single for five years and actually pulled the walls down. And I was like shit, I thought I was already vulnerable. And I went, Oh, no, actually, vulnerability is very different for everybody, your version of vulnerability is going to be very unique to the next person. So there isn't one. One version of that, as you can hear, Stace took a real hit after that coffee incident, she really had her heart set on that blog. And here's a question for you, is a question for you. Um, you know, so I think about things I would do on camera, like, you know, I would probably do some pretty crazy shit, because it's on camera, and I feel like I can summon a level of courage to do something if it's being recorded, because I know the values are this is, you know, but if it wasn't recorded, it wasn't in that environment. Maybe I wouldn't do some certain things. Same with being vulnerable, I think. Do you think there's a mask that goes on for people that get this courage to be what they think is vulnerable? But do you think that's still being vulnerable in those moments? Because I think it might be masters vulnerability. I think it's something else. I think it's a it's an adrenaline hit, or it's a it's like a rescore challenge. I think there's something else driving it. I think maybe the result is people feel vulnerability from it. But maybe it's not that you're being vulnerable. Because I know that for a while there, I would be doing these types of topics in front of a national audience and, and it was almost like I was told I couldn't do this, you know, there was something else driving me yet everybody else was taking it as vulnerable. But I don't know when I look back now knowing levels of my true vulnerability, if that was actually vulnerable at all. Yeah, I think I think Lena Dunham said it where people were really perplexed by all the nudity in girls the season. That she directed and studying, I sorry that the series, but she would look back at them and go that's your vulnerability, I actually don't have an issue with being naked. And that was when I kind of went, ah, interesting.
Yeah, behind closed doors vulnerabilities a lot different having a hard conversation that you just don't want to have his, his being more vulnerable than standing on a street corner yelling
Unknown Speaker 44:25
that you're, you know, whatever
Unknown Speaker 44:27
performer it is, that's your job, you know, for somebody else standing on the corner, doing whatever example you're gonna say might be very vulnerable for them. It's true, it's alive
Josh Janssen 44:35
and feel that I'm more like I'll say things on the podcast and I won't even talk about with my family. So like that's, that's been an interesting reflective thing of me. I'm like, well, should I wouldn't I haven't even said this to my family or close friends and yet I'm having this conversation on the podcast. into that,
Unknown Speaker 44:56
oh, I would never have had those conversations with any of them. The girlfriends before I met Christine started doing that show. I swear it was insane. And she says the same thing she said, it wasn't like I was this friend. And the one in the group that was always the one to talk about sex are always the one to share all these stories. We just had a chemistry that got a bit of a buzz from having those conversations. So there was a buzz but I also felt like yeah, it became about a performance a bit too, which was quite thrilling and had that kind of adrenaline buzz and, and also, I don't know what it is you kind of feel like it's, it's starting a conversation. I think that was a little bit of the drive to it. It's creating something into the sphere, and it might not be creative, like a painting but you feel like you are starting something or or creating something new.
Josh Janssen 45:46
Hmm. Um, Josh, just, I mean, I talk about all the content. I just wanted to ask you, because just a little insight when Tommy did his engagement video, he actually recorded the proposal. next quarter, and you couldn't properly see him doing the proposal. So he actually I suggested and he went ahead and it's on YouTube. He recorded him saying his lines, what's his idea in the industry in film? And he got a me to do the response. So if you listen to the video, it's actually a recording after the fact.
Unknown Speaker 46:25
It's a BI. It's a bloody VI.
Josh Janssen 46:27
Yeah, exactly. Did you ever did you ever worried? Congratulations, you got married in New York recently? Were you conscious of it being hashtag all for content?
Unknown Speaker 46:41
No, it wasn't at all. We didn't tell anybody about it. We honestly it was kept pretty on the day out for that exact reason. And I kept it a like a private time for almost close to a month. And then I put everything on Instagram and then it almost kind of disappeared. connected to my personal time and became about sharing. But there are still photos like the photos in City Hall when we say our vows just before we say them. There's particular parts of that day that I didn't consciously decide. But that felt like my favourite part of the day. No one will ever say those photos. So I didn't make this decision beforehand. I'm going to separate it, but I knew that that to me felt like something I wanted to keep. And so I kept it and then the rest. Everybody got and Jesus, everybody loved. Oh my god. Yeah, I could not. Yeah, it was a crazy response, considering it's 2018 and just get married how you want dotcom.
Josh Janssen 47:41
Like, what are you excited about for the rest of the year? What like in general in life?
Unknown Speaker 47:45
I'm gonna finish up because we're just getting you
Unknown Speaker 47:48
I've got Yeah, um, I am about to launch my own blog, which I feel like you guys talk about being late to podcasting. Yeah, but I don't give a shit because that's That's a way I think that I'm going to start having a bit of an idea of this. I don't know, I feel like it's a bit of a new chapter for me with, I suppose a bit of a narrative of a lot of stuff that I've done behind the scenes for many years. And it's been making me a bit nervous because it's slipping. It's dancing around to self helpy I suppose element but I'm just going to do exactly as we were talking before, and do the things that interest me and share the things that I want to share today and not share because it comes under a think of girls banner or comes under a radio banner or comes under this will be great to get another job. I just want to be able to have a creative outlet to push things out that a current and what I'm into so yeah, I'm going to start that in the next month and start populating that and just continuing to do the pot channel like it, you know, it's nice to have gotten to a place where we realised You know, there's been a few times this year where we're like, well, we can just keep doing it like and and it's become It's become my part time job in that I was thinking shit, I'm gonna have to go get a tele job, we're gonna have to get something behind the scenes again. And the thinking skills is just kept coming through. So ended up being my other job. So it'll be interesting to see how that pans out and also very new for me to be doing any kind of project on my own. Because for a very long time waiting to chummy, with Christie working with other different co hosts. I've very rarely stepped out and shared content solo, so I'm very nervous about that. But I'm very excited. It's the
opposite journey to what Josh and I are doing. Yeah, we're joining together because we've been doing shit. Oh, yeah.
Unknown Speaker 49:35
So we'll have to call you guys and say, I'm lonely. Can I please come back on the show?
Josh Janssen 49:43
That's what I think's great about especially what you're doing thinking girls, it's like you are scaling friendship. You're allowing people who might work on their own, to be able to have a friend and to listen. So yeah, we've been really inspired with. I know I've been really inspired with what you were doing with To girls, and that was really what got me thinking more and more about, you know, doing this type of podcast and providing and seeing the vulnerability that you and Christy have in your show and saying, Well, why can't a couple of dudes actually do something? It's not so fucking cliche and so obvious. So you know, and try and be a bit more vulnerable.
Unknown Speaker 50:22
Now we're fast forwarding a bit to Episode 499. This is with Craig, Bruce and J. mula. And what I like about this chat is it shows how much Mr. 97 has grown over the last year or two. As a producer on the daily talk show, Craig Bruce and john mula, two of the most experienced producers in radio, and podcasting, and he's able to get some really good advice from them about committing to a long journey with Josh and Tommy. So here it is Episode 499.
Unknown Speaker 50:50
I was just gonna ask Mr. 97 a question, which is that Do you know what, Josh and Tommy's goal is for this show?
Unknown Speaker 50:57
Unknown Speaker 50:59
they They want to build
Unknown Speaker 51:02
sort of an audience around the ideas and the values and interests that they have. So it's a cult they want to create
Unknown Speaker 51:14
Unknown Speaker 51:17
But I think, I think I think Tommy and Josh see an importance of bringing people along on a journey of the, through their daily life. And I think instead of focusing on stuff that's happening in the news, focusing on stuff that's relevant to them and things that they love, and bringing the audience in on that is super important.
Unknown Speaker 51:38
Well, that's it, and how often are you having conversations with them about where where they're at? Because I mean, this. I remember, I knew that you guys were doing a daily talk show and I knew every little bit that was happening and then I came to see the office and visit and sat down and just told me now this is part of a 10 year plan we're doing we are doing this 14 years and it blew me away. way. How do you have those conversations? we you know, and do you have those conversations where you go, Hey, you know what? Obviously, you're you're not as into it today, as you have, then how do you talk to them about those sorts of things?
Unknown Speaker 52:14
Yeah, sure. Well, I think,
Unknown Speaker 52:16
I think that's an area where I'm just starting to move into. So Josh was mentioning, we're like in the day to day sort of stuff at the moment. So that's, I think one of the next progressions, but there, there is the sort of checking in, in terms of what's going on. But
yeah, that's probably the next step.
How do you gize someone who's started and you know, grey, built your way up to, you know, quite high in the producing world? How do you encourage a young person to feel uncomfortable, but have the conversations like how do you get through that?
Unknown Speaker 52:46
I think the thing is, is that, you know, we're working with people, and we're trying to build relationships. Your show is going to be as strong as your best relationships. And you know, you have to have good relationships. It doesn't mean you have to be friends with with everybody and do everything together. But it means you have to understand what Josh is going through what Tommy is going through, but also have a real awareness of what you're going through. You have to have that ability to go Okay, well, this is where I'm at right now. You know what's gonna happen to Mr. 97? When he decides it's six years in, you know what I've done six years, and I now have this other show that I want to do. I can't
Josh Janssen 53:33
Unknown Speaker 53:37
as well, we can get away with it.
Craig Bruce 53:41
It's a good question though. Tommy because it you know, no one likes confrontation. No one likes to tell you hey, you know, we're in a situation where you're running your own race, you know, where are you getting feedback from?
Josh Janssen 53:50
Where are you you know, you do need objective ears and
Craig Bruce 53:52
and you know, who's playing that role, and certainly for a young producer, starting out most young people juices will find themselves in a situation where just based on the age gap, you know, you deal if you're working in a metro environment, you know, you've got a 2627 year old producer dealing with a 38 to 45 year old co host. And not to mention the status of them, right.
Josh Janssen 54:15
Yeah. So if you've got people like Eddie, who's doing the guy who's doing the presentation, doing all that sort of thing, I think that adds the extra level, which is like, like the point around, Jackie, oh, these people are actually the APS within their shows. Yeah.
Craig Bruce 54:31
But I think you can build respect up over time and do the work to get to a point where you're valued within the team and that value will then feed into your view and perspective on how the show is sounding when Sarah favours a great example of that Sarah was worked with Jay on Eddie show, and she was just so brilliant at it. Like how cheap in 20s
Unknown Speaker 54:55
late 20s, early 30s she's in her 30s now,
Craig Bruce 54:57
yeah, and just so brilliant at a job. So efficient and just an awesome team member not I'm sure she was brought in on conversations around. Okay, well, what are we doing? And where are we, where we're at? Because that relationship has been built up over time? Absolutely. And I think with
Unknown Speaker 55:13
dealing with with people, ask them how they want to be dealt with.
Unknown Speaker 55:17
Yeah. You know, I mean, Josh may have the ability to take things, you seem like a guy that if you and I need to have conversation, we could just cut out any of the fluff. I just have a very direct conversation that requires yes or no answers both ways. And that'd be fine. That wouldn't need to be any emotional connection or anything of it at all. It would just be, here's the situation. This is what we're going to do to fix it. This is how we're going to move on. Is that accurate? Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 55:44
yeah. And you've missed the passing of the shelter. I'm a
Josh Janssen 55:50
I'm a big baby who bet also that likes to go deep and have the conversation and realising Tommy's always talks about like I'm a connector as well. So I'll connect the dots all aside. Yeah, I there's these six of them taking school. But definitely it's like the six things happened. I probably wait until that point where I'm like, Okay, I'm here. This is what we're this is what we're talking about.
Unknown Speaker 56:14
defamation but also
Unknown Speaker 56:15
Yeah. And I feel like that conversation we'd be able to have just just sitting here was a feeling with Tommy we're going to be like, hey, let's go for a walk. Let's Let's go walk down the street, because I feel like that's, I don't know. I have no idea of that. Yeah, we're gonna get a cup of
Unknown Speaker 56:29
coffee. So this next episode is number 274. And it is with Queen gronk Gemma watts. And she'd be pissed off if she wasn't in this highlights thing. So here she goes. This is her episode. And it's the first time she was on with video. And they had some food that was nostalgic for fat Fridays. And they talk about pubes, which is great. And actually this is they talk about the word gronk and how much they love that word. So gronk sort of started taking off after this episode. So here we go. Number 274. This one's for you, Jim. So laser thing would people do it with their pubes with the whole thing? Like, would you ever commit to your whole PB kit? So you never have to worry about waxing and all over again?
Unknown Speaker 57:16
Yes. That's a big commitment.
Unknown Speaker 57:20
I mean, well, that's one thing that was
coming back into fashion in that respect.
Josh Janssen 57:30
But the thing is, what Jim is saying is that some people have actually lasered everything. not pointing fingers. But that hat like so like lies at the whole thing. So you never have to worry about it ever again. But that that is a very permanent,
Unknown Speaker 57:49
top up. Okay,
Unknown Speaker 57:53
you can eventually grow back. So it
needs to be constant. Yeah.
This shit just get it got I'll get my back completely done because I'm sick of having to ask my wife can you just please just sort me out? Just sheet What does she do like clippers? I'd be but it's not that like it yeah you pretty much can't see and that solves a problem. I just don't like it. I think this is the this is the closest sort of manscaping like the routine that I would have what?
Unknown Speaker 58:24
Like what constitutes manscaping
Unknown Speaker 58:28
is involved in a
no man's guy be I think it manscaping at its core is shaving here from a man's body like plan
Josh Janssen 58:41
is that okay I thought about fixing my neck neck pain. What's that just being a good human?
Yes. Just Just being
Josh Janssen 58:48
not being a grown. I mean, he
Unknown Speaker 58:51
started saying girl.
Unknown Speaker 58:52
Unknown Speaker 58:54
literally I said that the other day too.
Unknown Speaker 59:00
Amazing yeah and do it
Josh Janssen 59:03
maybe you could do something with the laser and actually have pube Kroenke
Unknown Speaker 59:09
He's going to the U turn as I'm coming in Australia, you know into and he's window is down and mine was down. I just yelled out. Yeah. gronk and he looked at me so confused and I realised that as I said it loud that it's like
Unknown Speaker 59:23
your trunk. Very confusing. Yeah, wrong. He's like,
Unknown Speaker 59:26
what? Like, he probably didn't understand what you're even saying. Yeah,
yeah, because that's actually kind of goofy. Neil gronk
Josh Janssen 59:32
What's a 2019? What's it the year? I'll see you Gemma?
Unknown Speaker 59:36
Well, my new year's resolution we were talking about realistic one.
Josh Janssen 59:40
I wouldn't even think you'd have new year's resolution.
Unknown Speaker 59:43
So easy. And my other one I came up with this after I'd had like two layers of moderator on New Year's play more pranks.
Unknown Speaker 59:57
Yeah, what can we not really know cuz you came about we had people over and I went down the side of the house and I was in we've got like a raised decking and I was down the side so it's sort of q&a No, no, I'm not a Manta.
Josh Janssen 1:00:13
Manta. The title of the gem is not a Manta Are you happy as a copywriter? What should today's up?
Unknown Speaker 1:00:21
Josh Janssen 1:00:22
Jim is not a mantle. You empty. So for people who are not from Australia, yeah, just vomiting
Unknown Speaker 1:00:31
I was gonna say it's just not having a cheeky spew and then
Unknown Speaker 1:00:35
Unknown Speaker 1:00:37
this I went down the side of the house and then I was it seemed so funny at the time because we were wasted but I was just like calling out people's names from the side of the house and they're like, Where's that coming from? I was just there. And then wait, yeah, that's when it I'm O'Brien's 2019
low level but I think we get you I want to know before you come back on the show. Probably be Within this year, I want you to do some serious pranking.
Josh Janssen 1:01:03
What is a? Jimmy just drop someone you address It's okay. It's just the the prank thing. malicious versus Okay, where is the where sort of the benchmark?
Can I tell you an example of one you leave? So I was a part of this not my idea this dude who makes videos wanted was making a video and he called me as dude I need your help. I need you to play a boyfriend that's gonna walk up to a guy who's having coffee with this girl. And you're going to be like,
Unknown Speaker 1:01:42
Hey babe, what like
I thought you said you're going to uni. And then you sort of like get in this awkward interaction with them long ago was this this was years and years and years like I years ago. shows what had happened is he's mate went out night before and then the boy We're like fact that we've got a number. We've got a phone number that's not a nice thing and let's say that it's the girl that he met because I didn't exchange numbers. And so John's met this girl Lisa out and the boys like Alright, let's send it from this phone. Hey, john, it's Lisa. So great to meet you last night. I got your number of one of the guys though. Let's catch up for a coffee. And he was so wasted that he couldn't remember who or what late what least look like. So what they did was a headline like this. So Lisa, which was an actor from Star now,
Josh Janssen 1:02:34
we really see the bar and
Lisa was my girlfriend in this thing. And so we were across one side of the Yarra River on a long lens shooting to a bar on the other side for fun.
Josh Janssen 1:02:47
Oh, my God, this is so Lacey goes down there and this guy, Bob or whatever.
This guy john was going to pick it
Unknown Speaker 1:02:57
up. It's got a laser and
laser Had a pin that had a camera on it so there's like
Josh Janssen 1:03:03
I had one of them has one yeah brand and
so then I went around oh yeah
Josh Janssen 1:03:09
these Australian companies one had they spiked actually it's grimy to them is spy though shit that you would unscrew them and have a USB thing and you plug it in is exactly that one.
And so what happens is I then go up john and Lisa having my Leisha and I went in and gave her a kiss on the lips. And I was like, that was the best.
Unknown Speaker 1:03:28
I get to kiss least I took up my head.
I was like, What are you doing? I thought you said you guys. And it's just the most fucking awkward situation played out. And this guy's Uh, I'm not who you may. And I kind of gave it a bit but I wasn't really aggressive. I was like, I didn't want to fight him. And it's like, it just would have you didn't have to be a good actor. You just needed to be awkward and it was so awkward. Anyway, I was so pumped to see this video. And then the dude who was making it like he's an actor. not mentally stable so I have this
Unknown Speaker 1:04:03
it was going well and we told him and he
fucking almost had a breakdown
Josh Janssen 1:04:08
I read that one this is the problem with yeah so far right? Yeah, that is just a prank ever feel good this the pranky ever got up got me guy he's
the same like you've never had any crazy boys Josh now and there's a lot that went on boys right?
Unknown Speaker 1:04:27
do stupid shit and it's not to make them happy it's to make everyone else laugh but then
Josh Janssen 1:04:35
because we do it yeah we do it within the office with Mr. 97
Unknown Speaker 1:04:39
is like some scared probably you've just said it he never he
Josh Janssen 1:04:41
doesn't know how do you know
Unknown Speaker 1:04:44
he's gonna be on edge
Josh Janssen 1:04:46
for because Tommy Tommy and I after our fight last week or early in the week when was it was
Unknown Speaker 1:04:51
Wednesday. Thank you
Josh Janssen 1:04:56
know but we the falling out happened in the morning and Mr. 90 If we went home, we just said,
Dad and dad.
Josh Janssen 1:05:09
And when we're all good, I said, I don't know what I said. I think I said I was gonna message my son. Yeah. And he said, Why don't we call him and we'll say that it's completely done we'll record it. And let's say that the show's over the business is done. Yeah, and don't
Unknown Speaker 1:05:27
one step further I was like, I'll call him bad mouth you you call him bad mouth me and see if he'll bad mouth by service. But I feel like Joshua Tommy, man, I feel my
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I just feel like planning for April Fool's now, I already like
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I just think I would get so hurt that
much. That's what I'm trying to say the stuff around the boy like I think you build up resilience. You couldn't do it because you know,
Josh Janssen 1:05:56
you can't even handle when Gemma and I correct you with words You nearly iversity Do the most annoying tries.
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Finally to finish off this highlights day one, it is Episode 100 with Hamish Blake. This is a personal favourite of mine. I love this episode so much. It's so funny. Hey, Misha has just returned from a little family trip to Sydney. And it's pretty late at night, but they managed to get the episode up by about 11:50pm. So still haven't missed a day. He tells some really funny stories of the radio days and then finishes the show off with a bit of a prediction of what could happen by Episode 1000, which is exciting. What else I love about this episode is Josh writes out a list of names of people who have emailed the show, some of which still listen to the show regularly. But it just, you know, it just shows how passionate the boys about consistently doing the show, even when there's not many people engaged with it in the early days. So I love this. This is Episode 100 with Hamish Blake. mean, for the daily talk show the podcast. listening to
this is half an hour. Yeah. So
Josh Janssen 1:07:06
we started off to do two podcasts a day.
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Now we are an admin one on one.
Josh Janssen 1:07:11
No, so I am the daily talk show. I'm Josh the other guys Tommy. And this is Episode 100. And I've written down every single person who has sent us an email, which in your game would obviously probably take up.
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We have computers.
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We could generate teach it.
Josh Janssen 1:07:36
I just spent time I wanted to thank the people who have over the last hundred episodes that's written the name out. Michelle, Shawn, Jodi, B, Mac, Trevor, Derek, Russ, and Robert.
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So yeah, because I'm writing that upside down I thought robot was
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now writing into like machines that can listen and appreciate podcasts. We've
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actually got a couple of birthdays as well. It's Neil's birthday today when you meet
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new people, Neil and Chris. It's also Chris's birthday.
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they realise how many episodes after they realise it's Friday. Yeah.
Josh Janssen 1:08:14
Neil reached out.
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I was wondering if it was in like the 70s.
Josh Janssen 1:08:18
I suppose probably the long I didn't think would keep going. We did not the better thing is that the we've been teasing. This is probably the longest tease in the sense of having you on I think, probably episode being getting notifications
today. posting about
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Instagram, tell me that you mentioned Yeah. But no, so I said desire. How are we going to
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cut this Sydney?
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Shit? I'm sorry. Because I'll be back in Melbourne.
Josh Janssen 1:08:47
What do you what's been the biggest guest that you ever had on your show
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was the longest team that you ever longest days would be probably different. There'll be so I'll give you a couple of categories to would be some ill placed tasers like you know now looking back on it was it worth like talking about this person so much or this band like you know
like hey we've got flow rider
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coming up you know
Josh Janssen 1:09:15
don't don't but that might for that I was just before I think that I had to take a bunch of tweets down because I think I tweeted about it and then soon after got a drop job in SEO and did a big cleanup.
I was I got so close to flow rider he was on a security guy's shoulders and fluoride is probably 140 kilos in so massive and on his bed but like jacked up like these are all protein but I don't know if he forgets his name, but it says flow rider on his back. Just
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remember that like I mean, that was a great one, but we that seems to be all over the station forever. Like Yeah, I remember when he turned up it was just a disproportionate level of He makes mixing. I think he was like, I can't believe I'm doing a radio station in Melbourne. Like, come on like
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one of the
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rooftop party the low GIS one
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might have even been for hours. I can't I don't know it was it was pre login. It was we were on at 4pm and he played at like the three the four hour the flow rider potty but there was like a panic because this is another free man does plug. He wanted chickens. It's like he's a crocodile. Yeah, he wanted like, he wouldn't like roast chickens that everyone was like rushing around giving him chickens because he was just
Josh Janssen 1:10:36
like survey results.
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You like man? Like oh my god, like get chickens in these chickens.
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Bananas as well because I was there that day and my
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mother was eating chickens and bananas. Like cuz he's raped like he obviously is on a specific diet for muscle game. Yeah. And the other two things he wanted. He wanted one bottle of crystal Like it had me like man Come on flow like who are you and then another bottle of yellow claim like he wanted like super expensive champagne then shit champ home so they want to spray it the audience
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yeah and and but he sprayed that he was like a spray crystal as a show of strength and I've won but I just have in my green room I don't mind what champagne I drink but I must spray the expensive stuff. So there's a lot of it was like a lot of it was flush I did remember when he threw it that like gold China to the crowd
to go check it head on this
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massive chain on threw it out to the crowd was like oh my god like someone caught like a woman call it she was like I can't believe of like it was it looks expensive. So she's probably like I think it was my 100 grand here and everything and they just said like he sprayed crystal through his gold chain. I was like I'm out of here I'm fly right it like goes back to finish off two or three chickens. popcorn chicken. And then his security guy came to the crowd and was like, give us the keys again. He's got a guy that goes out and finds the girl Whoever the guy whoever catches it, because honestly, it gives the child back like, as if say lie to me and I would often probably arrogantly go fellas this brand i'd love this. Because and that's where we sometimes forget that right? It feels like you got to get it wrong. In this case I'm getting that Bailey's. I reckon we got it wrong. Some how it just became a funny joke. Like we had two weeks where we would thanks to Bally's. And their tagline was something like, you know, treat yourself to a luxurious Bally's. Have an evening like this is really bland and like, you know, it was just like so exotic. Because we like even like people know what Bailey's is just encouraging them to treat themselves through a luxurious Bailey's oven. Not like
Josh Janssen 1:12:49
are you describing like advertising in general
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and then really like, isn't that arrogance comes in? I think we were just like, No, probably not to commerce at uni. We're like We did productive brand management This is what you want to do if you're out like we would just overall I think mentally overall go now.
That sucks. Like
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very arrogant because no like like a marketing agencies it's like all right you guys are like 3% of our message we have other channels and wise we're trying to tweak the brand here and convince people to buy from us. But anything I would say the shape of the message and go now that stinks. I think what you really want is just no matter what the context is to talk about you guys more and somehow because sometimes we just get exhausted and tired and you try and make each other laugh and you know, like I wouldn't know I'm trying to make me laugh by by saying something that's the worst possible ad for this brand. So out of something for whatever reason I thought one day would be funny to go and we should just because a lot of the time we may say something Dominator being like Well no, we can't say that we do have to say the right thing like that. We just keep trying to push the envelope that way any pretending to hold me back and so this this particular Cajun it just I was like I think we just be funny whatever reason to referred to Bailey as the world's number one sports drink and I was like so at the end of the day getting hired after after a big run grab a Bailey's and just bloody douse yourself and you know like Chugga Bailey's It's the world's number one sports drink. Number one, number one alcoholic cream, buy sports drinks, like even from the
Josh Janssen 1:14:22
regulators, would you even be able to save it before? Yeah,
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nowadays you really wouldn't, because you're not allowed to glorify drinking. Yeah, but back this was pre that because the only trouble we can get was, which is a kangaroo. That's the other thing. Bailey's is the key ingredient for the cocktail. The only thing we got in trouble was like, this is just heinously off brand. And we're like Yeah, but people know that like people know it's not a crime by sports drink and
how much how much actual face time you having with Bailey's
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so this is the thing where like these guys are paying for like literally two dimensions it could be just be this Bailey's. Enjoy refreshing bellies at night. Like you know Bailey's, treat yourself doing this. Well I finally got up to five minutes about how you know Bailey's is the world's number one crane by sports drink and like yeah get a bit sticky off to the big match but that's sports you know like have a shower while she Bailey's off.
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And like it just picked him
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the more we knew we weren't allowed to do and then weeks and like three or four days in there like guys Bailey's is furious he just made it funny to us and then we're like she did it more than once Yeah, we're like giggling in church and then when you can't laugh it's funny. So we will I think it just got that probably gonna be the Bailey's wasn't happy with us but yeah, from that that instance. And another one that really did work though was Richard Donna and other alcohol like Ricky Donna sparkling wine. Thing is about nano $10 a bottle. It's not your family buying a fancy bottle. But good sports drink because we we deeds, it was probably we it was a bit of an Amaz to champagne comedy, but we had bottles of Richard Donna in the studio, and at any point during the day, we could classify a holiday as today's record on a moment. And we were pop champagne cokes, and then be drinking Rika Donna, and this was one that went really well went really well. In fact, we kept the bottles of record on around in the studio for a few weeks afterwards to still have a record on a moment as well. Let me say this as a prediction as we wrap up the hundredth episode of Episode 1000, this show will have either become something else or sparked a new idea, like this would the show have been the platform for the next genesis of you guys? And it could well be massive. But it might not be this show, you know me, it might be the thing that you needed to do 630 episodes of before the penny dropped and the light went on and suddenly suddenly became so obvious to you that you couldn't believe you didn't think of it 630 shows earlier. But my philosophy is a my my belief is you got to do those 630 shows to find like you gotta you just got to go on the journey to get the Epiphany like you know, you gotta if you want Your quiet space to have an idea you gotta you gotta push we gotta shall really just keep doing the work to get to the next spot. There's no, it would never have happened if you just were like, Alright, well, you know when we go on a holiday I'm really, really, really think about our futures until
Josh Janssen 1:17:14
you see the fastest way to paradox to get
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the hang on. Isn't that what you're doing this year? 10 weeks, slightly,
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slightly different, slightly different thing. My goal is to not be busy so just, I'll make it Yeah, I will achieve that goal.
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Right now in full, I can just go to limp and I'll, I'll win.
Unknown Speaker 1:17:33
But for you guys. All right, well wait, like where's this? Where's the next iteration coming like was the next level coming? I promise you is just on the other side of keeping on doing it. So
we're gonna get to 630 we come back from a
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promise he was at 630 I can't know what it is. I can't say what it is. We already did. I remember it made me 630 episodes. And we were like, Oh, yeah,
Josh Janssen 1:17:54
I remember counting the episodes.
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Now. I was saying a hindsight. We went back and we were like January Honestly, I think I guess I was like 40 weeks he five 200 200 a year. But it was probably why Listen,
Josh Janssen 1:18:06
casters are a bit of a joke in the sense of how we count this shit like is every
Unknown Speaker 1:18:10
day like we're doing 40 it's outrageous the song or dance we're making about that podcast, because we have nothing else to promote. So like to doing publicity about our podcast. Yeah. And it was a great podcast. Well done. I sit there going, Yeah, but we've been taking about 3000 episodes. We've just never really it's never been the only thing we had to talk about. So we've never mentioned that before.
Well, Joe Rogan 1000 1150 Yes, it's
Josh Janssen 1:18:38
right. The right like the radio show. Like that's what I was saying to you, TJ like you did all these episodes in shepparton. And the thing about these glad they gone.
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Josh Janssen 1:18:49
the system is that there's like lots of people doing that in regional areas not so thing. And we've created a system where they're sort of boxed in to a certain But okay, so you got Metro, you've got regional not so thing. And podcasting is like democratising all of that and saying that I like that we create confusion where we can get promo shots done, and look like a big fucking Breakfast Show. And we're just two dudes making no money on this. I think you might have Yeah, you've cracked a little bit. You're kind of trumping them. Just like I'm just telling you to tell everyone this is it, man, thanks so much for spending the time I think total pleasure The thing is the thing that I always tell when people say what's Hamish like, I think that people underestimate due to the fact that you're so funny. People forget how or don't realise how thoughtful intelligent and just like a good person you are. So thanks joshy might use the show notes my I used it whenever I say something nice about someone might use ring It's really annoying.
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