#174 – Everything’s changed & nothing’s changed/

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Cross face

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conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Johnson and Tommy Lee. Talk Show, Episode 174. Good morning. TGI Friday. Fan one. You're just

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you're just venturing into the Friday. I'm Indian. I haven't had it's so sunny here in Melbourne. And what's, what's the weather in Amsterdam? It's actually been a little bit chilly. Yeah,

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yeah, just

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a little bit cold. Well, yeah, tomorrow's gonna be freezing here. But I've been enjoying if you'd be using the sun for lunch, so you know, la la.

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I've now I've been enjoying the cooler weather. It's like the perfect weather to walk around. Yeah, the biggest biggest risk at the moment isn't sunburn, but getting hit by a cyclist there's so

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many fucking bikes really is there um. I biked over in Amsterdam now

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i'm sure i bike would never even try because there's just so many there's just so many like personal bikes just everywhere just like you wouldn't believe it's yet

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it's inside you know they've raised designed for it. He they do or maybe every six months I think they do go down the river and fish out heaps of box that have been thrown into the river. And I've got this machine this like it's basically a big excavator that is on about and it just like, reaches down and peeks out almost looks like a skill test machine and they just pulling out box people must still throw them Yeah, I did hear that like you get fined for writing electric skateboards over in

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Amsterdam yeah I believe it because there's some this there's such a culture around like it as a pedestrian you're a second class citizen as well like you have to watch out like when you run when you get to sort of pedestrian crossings and stuff like that it's not like a given they'll just

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like stop for you like if they're on a bike pedestrians like I'm sure they probably meant to stop because they some of them do but a lot of cyclists just but there's like hundreds of them like at a traffic light. It will go grain and there's just like big buck footpaths and none of them wear helmets. Yeah because they're all stunned

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riding bikes it doesn't really make quite much sense hey I want you to pull out your phone right now I think I find when

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I do I do it to something the other side of the breezy He's my phone just there said

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listen this standby

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Can you screw up my phone I've just working artist behind my laptop I feel bad. Now you

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have your eyes closed as you're looking around.

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So I open up Open up your Instagram we get into a little trick that's called editing after the podcast which means you've got more work under your belt but I will I'll I've got the audio clip from something that I just posted on the daily talk show and we'll buy that but I want you to watch it right now and then come back after and give me your feedback

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the other way Happy Birthday Josh I don't know if this is quite your eyes he's probably stuff that we did you find that on Twitter we had to go back to a tweet from 2014 to find out your eyes that's better Happy 28th birthday not after the greatest of starts this video but I wanted to make it for you to celebrate some of the weird things that you do

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you have an entire Instagram account dedicated to your thought your living you had your own radio show

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Josh

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and you used to sing to people

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you always have to ruin a good moment like when I first got my drone and I fluid up above me and he came in from behind stabbed me but even with all that said Josh taping you will not get the

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facts right

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the

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the radio the May presenting did you actually go through it Did you listen to the whole episode 2007

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yeah listen to that 2007 when Jesus I mean I went when I heard it was I thought it was raised more recent I get cereal

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one was the one I'm a geek I'm a little logon that was for that would have been to that was like very race oh not very recent that that would have been maybe four or five years ago it was about five years ago that was for

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seen FM which is like a What is it like a community radio station yeah and jack post who have had on the show Emily on children who have also had on the show they got asked as sort of like x alumni I have seen I to go to a Breakfast Show and they they gave me a segment and I ended up a tech segment and then I ended up using my whole time for the intro

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so it just plays it up but you can you can thank Mason for sourcing that audio he became across that that absolutely so happy birthday I was I was going to try and see how long we could do the episode before you mentioned it's your birthday

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The funny thing is I'm not a

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bro was talking about this yesterday

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I'm not much of a birthday guy like I always just feel like I like celebrating other people's birthdays yeah but I always just feel like I haven't really done anything to deserve like birthday sort of celebrations because like everyone like I literally all I've been doing is just living that's it

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well the 30th maybe you can it's a miles yeah it doesn't matter about what you've done it's just like you've survived 30 years of life so yeah yeah and you've lived in a place Joe and you've been really annoying and and we'd cake please Bertini that To be

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clear, though the singing one of me singing irreplaceable was a long time ago. That one was

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2007. I was I was just starting VC. I would like to say 11 people that I know that that's only coming. I think. I think probably today

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it's all started. Well, I know to be honest, I I couldn't find your birthday. Like a kind. I knew that you were a couple years younger than me. I wasn't sure if it was three or two. And we looked at we looked everywhere. It took us a good like two people on the case. fine now. Facebook. No, no, no. All it says only Facebook is your birthday. You've taken on what you one of those assholes doesn't want people to know how old you are.

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So now you don't care. Maybe what is it? Maybe when I set it up? I am. It's funny that Mason found out on Twitter because I had a thought the other day was like

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maybe out get rid of like I there was a an article of this celebrity who had written all these tweets years and years and years ago, and someone had gone through and collected these individual ones and created a story around it. And I said, I'm thinking I'm lightning. Hey, I'm I'm sure I have like said some dumb shit.

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And like people that may be even like you're talking about local Australians or whatever, who like personalities. When I was a kid that I probably am like connected with now was it like they could be anything so I was like, I feel like I

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almost want to go through and just delete all my toy. We we did find one tweet that said Pauline Hanson really has a point now

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I know there was it was 2016 by the time my son founded tweets that reference your age at that point so we just did the math he did the math go to work that much but yeah, you definitely it was the it was the second last tweet

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no but if you want to see that video it's at the daily talk show instagram instagram it would be at the Facebook page but you still haven't yet made me a fucking admin of the page in fact I'm kidding I just tried to just try to get on to post it and I I tried to post and it was saying that was posting is may not as the daily talk show so it will be up there by the end of this episode because

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I'm fixing that now I'm sure you also can access our email on your computer can Yeah, yeah. Yes,

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password. And quickly. Interesting story today. I mean, I were reading it was on LinkedIn, you know, sometimes linked into these updates of like, it's like a a news story whip. So it's like the best articles from the week. And so it comes out with you know what's been happening. And this one fact, TripAdvisor has welcomed at landmark ruling after an Italian court has jailed them for nine months for writing fake reviews

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so this high at this unnamed man tried to sell more than 1000 positive reviews to hundreds of businesses across the Delhi and so he's been locked up you get nine months jail that's for long isn't that crazy and the businesses that were paying for the fake reviews also got reprimanded I didn't say what happened but this dude got a criminal conviction I guess they're trying to maybe set a

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precedent around this sort of thing like maybe it's the same equivalent to

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like at pirating like how many people like when we were kids we all pirated like the way that you learned how to use Photoshop and shit well at least when I was a kid was you couldn't afford when you you know 13 years old there's no way that you can actually afford the software so you don't you like get a crack and yet your pirated but how many people were actually like guessing, like going to jail or being sued for that? Yeah,

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it's like it's even like the people who downloaded what's that a

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Dallas Buyers Club? I actually heard a few people I do know a chick who used to be a lawyer at the law firm that was sending out the letters for the production company or for the distribution company Warner's whoever was so she was working for them. And then I spoke to somebody who actually got a letter, but it was never like you've been just a movie Dallas, Dallas Buyers Club. A great film.

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Matthew McConaughey plays this like this dude who you know, is a womanizer and get he gets aids and then sort of goes on this mission to get treatment for it. He gets really skinny and it's it's like an amazing performance. He's so so good. And so we think that the story you're describing also happened to that son Jared from subway wasn't the kind of key homemade

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allegedly allegedly What did he lose all of these weight like from actually being sick? Like it had nothing that had AIDS but I don't know that could like that. Shouldn't like that is 100%. I don't even know if I should say Well, I

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think well, I heard that he was a he got in trouble for pornography of mana. That's bizarre if it feels

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like this gift for whatever reason he's got a little there's a lot of stories on him like this. I mean,

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it's a gamble for a company like I was thinking about. Um, I think this is funny. I was thinking about the wiggles and I worked a lot of wiggles and and I know a lot of wiggle songs but he loves them he loves Emma and doesn't say the other the other paint the box names he doesn't give a shit about them, but he just says ama ama

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but I think he might sing us they would have to just like the interview process I mean to be fair, they actually hasn't been that many new wiggles of the generations but there's been enough to potentially have a fuck up in judgment like imagine if they got a wiggle that did the wrong thing and you know what I mean by the wrong thing how it would just destroy that brand and so there is like getting you know, people on reality shows businesses you know, the the front and center media personalities like that Jared dude, like, Oh my god, imagine the the panic meeting at Subway headquarters. least they will considering

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it's not like, I can vet it. Like it's, it's, it's not like it's something that's going to be publicly available. It's not like the esta form where it's like, you tick the box. If you're a terrorist or pedophile, pedophiles tend to sort of do it in sacred I guess yeah, and so it's a

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Yeah, and I are going to be hard being

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a teacher in general, just for all the like, I just say even remember when I was in school, the sensitivity around teachers and students and sort of just like little things like if a teacher

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if you're meeting with a teacher it's sort of got to be that would always talk about you know, being in a room with Windows and stuff like that just like that sort of

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pressure that teachers must be under special especially male teachers think it's um, there's probably extra layers of complexity that we probably don't completely understand

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yeah it's it's I mean you you're the guy that was texting these teachers in

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Asia yeah which I wrote I don't know whether that would exist anymore Do you think that that's still going on hundred percent it wouldn't and you know when you told me those stories It's all I could think about and I know you and nothing ever happened but you know it's it's it's where your mind goes but I think it was maybe because I was like this little fat awkward kid that acted like an adult were because it wasn't like I just had a fresh it was with you and take a big was like

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blow same really, really know just cutesy and

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and then you would dating your sixth grade taste

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like I was friends with so many teachers. It was literally like, I was a staff member. But the the that happened even like multiple schools from primary school to high school to what I was doing the CIA Yeah, that didn't change, even when I finished with ECA the the second year I think that I was out or maybe Yeah, I think was the second year I was out of school. I actually, um,

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my teacher had left teaching because he's wife had a sort of a big exact job and had to move to Adelaide and he was freelancing and so I hired him as a freelance and hated filming he I flew him to Melbourne and we did filming in what sort of thing

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you would have felt like a top dog

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die

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exactly you got an A plus for that one so yeah good job about I think that the massive power game your whole life exactly

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yeah I just he arrived at the airport and I just I actually Hey guys pop quiz

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Josh we've never done a fucking pop we said what is it pop quizzes and may you America like trying to be American yeah roll call present present? Well I met the roll call I was big into that when I was a kid I had the on Excel would go through and create the borders for all the cells so you get like the little squares and then I'll use that and I was really meticulous with how I actually did like it wasn't just a tick like if you're an amateur, you just take it out present. If you are legit Teacher's pet and you want to do things properly you would do a line just be line line line and then if some wasn't here you do across the whole tick thing is very You shouldn't have a little swoosh there should be no actual ticket on a present take if you know what I mean. Yeah yeah

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yeah that was I can't say that I was into roll calls I was trying to avoid roll calls

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Do you do wag A lot of you what sort of man I worked I think up with captain's brother who we talk about jolly we don't know so captain's Brother brother was in my name is Roland Yeah, and we first every day I think it's the only time I ever wag because the other guys are just told mom sorry by not going to that

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battle is better cannot be one with this little fucking

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site that but that was how it went down. And I think anyway, one day I actually this is a good link back to Jared from subway. We we caught a wagon and I went over the Roland place and then we went to the train station, got on the train, went to prison and had a six inch subway and I'm a 16. This is where you and I are different if I had Jaron took the other fucking six

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I don't care what situation it was I was a veggie to light guy. Oh yeah. could get a veggie delight wrap. This is why I lost on a lot of my wife as well.

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The first time

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it's always when you've there's something a little bit

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not embarrassing. But

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the fact that I've because what for people who don't know I was when I was a kid, I was bad, like 110 kilos. And then what was what was a heavy 121 age reflect first one kilos at 2021. I was 120 kilos. Okay. 67. Wow. Yeah. And so because I know because I remember I am. You're six foot just to just an he's not for Ford. Yeah,

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so you kind of you did. You're just a big solid unit. Napoli was a certain that I was like. Oh, definitely overweight and uncomfortable and all that sort of thing to do. Yeah. Bodie, Bodie actually can't say stick,

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my son is so protruding outwards. He just he looks down he literally had to like fall forward to seize dick because he was trying to look at it and he kept its what was he trying to look at it for? Just Cause it's just a boy. Man.

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I can

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look it was they have a look.

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had him know that he wanted like was he was he was

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and he was grabbing in the Nissan law. He almost fell over looking forward. And so he sort of squatted down

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and then he's I think I could still I I'm sure I could still say my dick

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side

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can't believe you made me work that out. But the

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yeah but there is something weird about because yeah, when I was um, I lost

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a lot of white so when I was in the 10s I would have been about

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and I went from like the hundred and 10 kilos to like

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ID three kilos and the way that I did that was I actually um, we had a central Australia camp and I really wanted to climb lower which nowadays is like well it was then it was super culturally insensitive I don't really know like I wouldn't I wouldn't do it I would love to do it because of the challenge and because it's like it is a really fun experience but I don't know with what I know now and sort of being a bit more culturally aware I'm there was people saying you know the indigenous people like he climbing on the rock and alcohol you know school group did so that's basically how I bust the white initially climate Yeah, climbed to the top Yeah,

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say I get one in before we got full PC I mean now it's understandable like I understand it but at that age I wouldn't have had any grasp of cultural and sensitivity I was probably stoned

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but now even pay say right it's literally just like it's the it's PC I think probably has negative connotations where it's like we've gone for we're becoming more aware maybe as a

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yes so I think there's a lot of people who aren't aware that would have that would get riled up because it's what you need to get raw bad I think like I saw a friend who was they recently any any made a video saying something like you know, we opted for different actions activity than climbing the rock because it's insensitive now and that we're on sideways going through the on the dirt up the other route

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walk it's okay

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they were they were there on the Red Dust and now now we're just cruising look actually really fun. I'd like to do it. But I get a vibe that there will be people that are looking out for that kind of stuff. But I like

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yeah, I get it. There's a good Netflix series by Vox called explained and they've actually got an episode cold I think political correctness which is really interesting I've got like a lot of topics and you just like I for about 20 minutes and I just go through it like real montage you

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don't think it's politically when I say politically correct or PC not from the you know, original owners of our land they're not the ones that work I'm worried about being PC I'm talking about the dude who's never fucking left Melbourne who just is looking for an opportunity to jump on the bandwagon also because it is now the rule right near the Peter I have the issue with it. Don't argue with the fucking locals is the issue Yeah.

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Now it's interesting the talking about the explain thing. They use a lot of montage stuff. I've been thinking like a European I think it's a European Union. They've I don't know if you've you've seen this. I clicked on to one

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post about it yesterday. But in Europe, there's been all these laws around copyright that have just been sort of, I don't know what level they've been passed. I'm just googling it now. So I can actually be so accurate. I opted to not use the Happy Birthday song in our video because I'm pretty sure that's copyright. Oh, yeah. Boy, you Yeah, I think the other one might be fine because it's a powerful may see irreplaceable

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Mason actually said to me when he found that he's like to just do that because it It wouldn't be copyright. It's

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there's probably like 10% and the rest was just by being a weird unit. But funnily enough that so 2007 when I did that, I would have been six Dane turning 17 that year, but it was in February. I didn't turn 17 till September. But that actually would have been the same

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that within a month to two months that I

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was on radio doing the same Mac think like with Sam Mac with the Jesse McCartney thing, because that was the big song at the time.

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But did you find this thing about? Yeah, so

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the the copyright thing. So no, basically like the what they're proposing us going to change things in a huge way. So

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EU copyright directive vote article 11 and 13 approved. And so what these what these things mean, I should have this, we'd never do fucking research. But basically,

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the colon calling it I think the link tax and the upload filter by critics. And what it's doing is I want to find the exact details. But just just going off the top of my head, one of the specific things is that this copyright

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directive will main that the if you post a article online from a new site on Twitter, if you quoting more than one word of the article, you need permission from the publisher before you tweet it. And not only that, that they can charge you for the for the right to do it. And so what people are saying is, it's like this is fact for free speech, but also like to be able to debate because what it means is that if we can't be critical because the publisher was saying no, we're not allowing you to post it. Yeah, so there's all these

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discussions if you just type in your copyright and it's I feel like I should know a bunch more about this but it he's gone off at the moment. In regards to a talking point it's there we will be a tipping point it's the wild wild west on the internet in terms of copyright and moment people stealing songs.

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Yeah photos using your image for selling latest squeegees from your Flickr account, I was looking over that I was just I did a bit of a deep dive into JJ today. And it's such an interesting thing. Because I get the sense that and I look at your life and has played out up into your 28th birthday today. And it's

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it's like there's, there's been

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not even it's a lack of awareness. But it's just been you having no real concept of how you're coming across, which is the the actual why you need to leave for a period of time to work out who you are. Because it's you can totally tell you been on this mission to work out just who you are, and who you're comfortable with being because I can hear it in your voice on not the not the one in 2007. Like even later in the pace some of your podcasts. It's almost like you're just more okay with being who you are. And you've worked out who that is. And that's the beauty of I draw like I sound more natural than I ever have. But in 10 years time I'll probably think I'll is sounding like a bit of a you know, we'd unit and and for you. I think it's huge. Like there was such a massive shift. Where do you hear it? Well, what we were there any specifics that you sort of noticed, and I think it's I think you were you had a mask on and it's not a bad each one has a Batman mask.

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Now is that was that was the photo that I showed that 70 something year old editor who's told me no one gives a fuck Josh,

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that was a story on this podcast. No, I think you had. It's almost that sense of faggots you make it. Like you were doing what you thought was required in that moment. So you're not, you know, trying to fake it. But it's like the person you go. That's not really who they are. But but it was at a point where most 17 year old kids most 16 year old kids most 20 year old kids don't know who they are yet. And it's not a bad thing. It is

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right. They're experimenting on. I think the weird thing about my experience is I kept being enough. She doesn't feel that like much has changed, you feel like the same person. And also, I think the weirder parties to like I was on Twitter in 2007. If you go to my account, it says it's like 2009 because I actually was honored in 2007. And then sort of a year and a half eaten, decided to get rid of all social media. And I had to reset my whole account and all that sort of thing. But

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the people that I'm connected to with on Twitter, they're people who,

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you know, that they might be right now in their sort of mid 30s, late 30s or 40s or and so they were a little bit more developed an established in who they were. And so I think this is something interesting there too, which is that yet people would have who have followed me along, grab all that sort of stuff, like doing even even have a different I was doing Melbourne geek. Like when I was doing I I look at these times as sort of, like, I'm proud in the sense of like, people talking about Amazon affiliate stuff, like it's a new thing now. And I was like, when I was 21 years old, like getting checks in the mail from Amazon for selling stuff. Like, yeah, I'm really pumped about that. But at the same time, it's like, I really like I was I was living at home and, you know, I didn't have to, like, just a completely different world, you know, yeah, it's,

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you be on New Year's, and it's like, when I made the video about when I was in Barcelona, making vlog almost, that was like 2010 or 11. I,

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I remember the feeling I was feeling kind of confident, I thought I was nailing it. But in when I look back on it, it's like, God, I just wasn't. And I feel that I wasn't who I am today. But I wouldn't have got to where I am today. If it's not for what I did in my path. And that's for you. It's like this is this massive journey. And I think people like when you've been showing up having cracks as much as it can annoy people over years and years and years, because that's where you can actually win sometimes is just being that person that shows up and stands for something or likes or, you know, is passionate about something. And then just like, that's how, how you win because you've been practicing for a long time doing doing you and you're getting good at doing you. And it's funny because I even was just yesterday, I think that I was sort of reflecting on our friendship and thinking about how

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like, I tried to get into that. I'm sure other people have done this too. Well, you try and get into the headspace of what was my perception. What would think of Tommy you know, I'd like three years ago, like when I when it was all just sort of when we're all feeling each other at not in that way. We really feel a shell, right? Yeah, well, Phil,

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Phil Wilson,

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Debbie homophobic and we feel each other at

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the same time. I can't even I can't even read about that. It's just yeah, you can go with it.

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Isn't it funny that you can, you

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know, I was just remember, I saw someone who I'm connected with, like, who I'm mates with her. He's just completely in completely different worlds. And on Instagram. He did a post of like, the, the lovely sky and it's like this photo of humans might in there like hugging or whatever. He's like, hashtag you know, no homo King out where have you been?

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He started appoint a university in 2012 in America.

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Yeah, but actually, so the were in Amsterdam at the moment. And we caught up with a relative that when he was 18 or 19,

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he came to Australia and we he stayed at my parents place and we looked after him. And we, you know, did the Great Ocean Road and bunch of other stuff and just live with each other for a while. And he was he was saying our

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he said something about That's what she said. He's like, I learned that from you. I use it all the time.

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And he's a he's girlfriend is studying philosophy. And she sort of paint the picture of what she's like she she doesn't fly flying a fly on planes because of the environment pretty. I just started thinking about, like, fact, like, you might use of reusable bags. I'm just like, fuck if she finds out I'm fucked. So I but Brian. If so it's like, Man, that's one thing like being in Europe. Like, we want to get better with all the environment stuff. But it was funny. hearing him say that. Yeah, that that's what she said. I was like, Ah, yeah, that's very. I said, like, pie to Dan. I was like, Oh, yeah, that's very sort of 2000. Yeah. 2009. It's not really sort of thing anymore.

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Yeah. Yeah. massive shift in our lifetime of what is okay, what is an okay, or not even one is okay, what is it? Okay, what you just feel isn't okay. When it said, like, We don't even need to be talked about. But you just know that it's like,

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that doesn't sit well. Can't do it. Yeah, it's like

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Australia Day. The. Yeah, the thing with that. I've also been noticing, though, looking when I do have those glimpses of looking back. I am I do get worried, because I had this perception of who I thought I was. And what I was doing is some this like this sort of grandiose thing, which, in hindsight, it was so small, and I even think about that with this podcast. I'm constantly like, I think I've gotten better over these have just been like, actually, like,

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thinking about, okay, the amount of people who are listening to this, like, yes, it's sort of a decent sized room of people, you know, it's like a decent sized event, but it's like, not getting too caught up in my own shit. Which I think when I was younger, I think Tibet be able to move stuff forward. I thought she was gonna be like, massive. Yeah. Do you like have you? Um, do you think you've your perception of that sort of stuff has changed over the years?

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Yeah, but I think it's probably mostly due to understanding the reality of the things after you start trying you know, and you start trying some new venture or launching some new creative endeavor you you realize like before I had no nothing to pull on as far as nothing if

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not That's what she said

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from the top of all the row.

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That's what she said on the top of the Lord. You think that's too controversial? For further the title of today's episode? Yeah, most likely not fuck it. It will listen now know that were like, they'll hear the full story, though. Understand that we're not. In fact, we don't. Maybe don't understand. We are backwards. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think

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it's just information, you just gather information because you've tried to set wine, then you have an understanding, you're right, I've been I think there is some level that you need of a lack of awareness on how you come across to a certain degree. Like I say that there's a massive caveat around that. Because self awareness is a gift. And it's something that you should explore if you don't have it, or you should at least try and exercise some self awareness, thinking about you're thinking and, and just see how you come across. But there's also like to get through a level or to level up or to just push through the pain barrier that a lot of people would feel if they were to critique how they coming across, because it serves you like, if you're not realizing that you're not actually that great to start with, like, every single person is some people have a higher level of, you know, natural ability, but everyone starts shit. And so if you wouldn't worry about you shooting this level from the get go. And that was the thing that saturated you thinking you done. And so that's where I look at you. And I look at me, and we're good examples of not actually thinking that will that bad in the moment, I thought we were but allows us to get to that next level. And this will, I think, be another one of those moments with this show. Even just the topics that we're talking about. I listen back to radio, the radio that I did and shepherded and it was also and as much as how I was as a performer wasn't great. I also think about what I was even interested in discussing what I was interested in sharing from my life. And I think that will be something that you and I will look back on.

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Yeah, absolutely. As you know, like, why do we even choose to talk about that? Why do we go there? Why do we talk about all the row you know, all that shit? Maybe. But my and maybe not. But I also think that it's going to happen less and less. I think you were looking at a time that was quite formative for you at the radio station. Yeah. And I think that wake heating this next part of our life where maybe things change less and I think that that can be for the worst to I think that you can get overly conservative as you get older,

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you know, but we do we do tackle topics that we're not completely clear on and I think that's where it comes up I think to close the loop on the copyright stuff I reckon I'm just curious is where it's going to go in regards to YouTube content like I don't understand at the moment how people are using the content that they're using you know pitch for movies and stuff like that I think like in the US they have a

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fair use part of their copyright act which basically I think says you know if you're if it's for non commercial use yet stereo audio exactly you can you can basically use bits of content or whatever and if it's Canada's fair you should be right in Australia I remember watching a think it might have been hungry beast there was an awesome ABC show called hungry based weather

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yeah it was like way ahead of its time Danny like I think was one of the market now was honored as well we should get Danny like on the show he's he's awesome yeah yeah he'd be ice and so he's had a massive weight loss journey himself I saw he posted a before picture it was like off fucking disgusting don't look that far off so I'm done

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he Yeah, but they were hungry based. I was thinking about it, you'd look at what Vox is doing or stuff like that that that type of media which is very sort of infographic based hungry based was doing it in Australia years and years and years ago and if you if you just Google hungry base I think they did an episode or they did a segment specifically on fair use or if they didn't, if you just type in I think like Australian copyright explained or whatever into explained is also that Vox series title don't get views I'm just using it in a generic sense

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you should find I remember seeing an animation that was similar similar to the hungry base one with actually talk about the fact that we don't have fair use in Australia so the laws that actually allow Americans to do what they do in regards to using bits of content Australia doesn't have that same leeway

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yeah it's worth keeping in mind as well yes so that if you're listening to this show do not steal any of this audio who actually know help help get this out we need all the help we can get off

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created a parody

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I think a parent like doing something sort of turning it into a parody there was a guy I saw that runs a music competition where he gets people to do covers or whatever he had to change it to pair it was that just Bray I thought that if from the the video that you just saw Bray walked behind me I thought she was naked but she was just wearing a what's that cold shorts

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that dose but you haven't realized you're actually naked you've been making his own time

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it's my birthday I'll do what I want but

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I can't remember what I was saying now but I'm off to I bc today looking at all things technology and media and streaming and I'm going to be creating a massive list and talking to companies in regards to podcasting streaming video stuff offer big media company so nothing's actually changed in like 15 years for you Do

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you just a slim a bit more mature older version of you that kid who was at events schmoozing for your company that was

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that is that's the funniest part about it is, is that everything's changed and nothing's changed. Yeah, yeah. When I was

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like, I thought I was a party. Yeah,

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that's probably better than That's what she said from Hillary

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the Yeah, but um, yeah, I remember when I was a student representative council represent a president and going to the state SRC where, you know, if I can talking about all these big topics, and that's where I like I learned about

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refugees and asylum seekers. And yeah, it was in those things that you learn that like, are seeking asylum isn't LA, you're like, with the way that people talk about asylum. Because you would assume that this like that it's illegal. It's like, it is a right to seek asylum. But we've gone completely off topic, but it's just amazing how all of these things like inform your world. Yeah. Well, man, happy birthday, 28. Thank you hate it. And I got two years to catch up to you that the fact up thing is you're getting older too, so I don't never actually catch up. So that's like that's empathize. Work, guys. It's not a talk show. Hi. At the daily talk. Show. Calm Have you have you climbed Hillary? Do you regret it? Have you not climbed jewelry? Have you have you actually had this sort of sensitivities and awareness to to not do it? Or have you booked it? In fact, it for you?

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Yeah, I'm not gonna do it. You know, you know, too much. Yeah,

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thanks to Michelle for the email to she she sent an email about we talked to with the Trevor long yesterday about the juul SIM cards. And Michelle was sort of pointing out the fact that the end of the day we're going to move away from having phone numbers attached at all. And she was giving a great example of, you know, when she worked for a company and would just be, you know, she would basically port phone numbers, two different things for different uses. So you'd say you're in one location similar. It's just like this. You know, what Skype does when it comes to, you know, having a phone number and being able to direct it different ways, but we do enjoy reading your emails and getting them and trying to include that content on the show as well. So like I said, I'll talk show Have a good weekend. We'll see you Monday.