The Most Expensive Ice-Cream

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 606.

Tommy: What's happening, guys? What's going on?

Josh: You say happening?

Tommy: Yeah, what's happening?

Josh: Oh, look, not much. We were just having a bit of a debate. I, uh, we were talking about Flo Rida.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Uh, and you pointed out the reason he's called Flo Rida is because he's from Florida.

Tommy: F-L-O-R-I-D-A. Florida.

Josh: And I didn't know that. And then I went down this rabbit hole I was saying Mr. Worldwide, realised I've been thinking about Pitbull the whole time.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, he's different. Dad's at it again.

Josh: Talking about, uh, being a dad, uh, you listen to AM radio now?

Tommy: Yeah, you know what, um, the thing about having it on any kind of FM station, you get music, uh, which triggers Bodhi to then want his music. But if we can just have voices, it's fine. And there's actually a guy on 774. Can you look him up? He does the Brekkie Show. He's the best. I want him on the show. I really like him.

Josh: Is he based in Melbourne?

Tommy: I think so. Yeah, I think it is.

Mason: He's so—

George: Sammy J. Yep.

Tommy: Sammy J. He's a real character and he can, and he's just, he can work his voice and he can just talk and he's clever. I really, I've got a bit of a crush on him.

Josh: I love him. Yeah. I would, I never got into that side of sort of media consumption as a kid, but I wish I did. I feel like I'd be smarter if I did.

Tommy: What's funny is that I, never would think of myself as someone that listens to radio, let alone AM, but it's just happened because of having a kid. And so then there's also like another classical station that I listen to because it calms Bobo down. Last night he was on fire. So he went—

Josh: At the office?

Tommy: No, he was at the office.

Josh: He was—

Tommy: You started him at the office doing trust falls off the table.

Josh: Yeah, and he was catching me.

Tommy: Yeah, he was falling back.

Josh: Well, well, you had to then. Well, I was doing a few things. Not only that, he enjoyed me grabbing him by the arms and doing spins. And then I was like, I remember it like Dancing with the Stars where they would have like grab an arm and a leg and do it. And so I was doing that as well and he was getting right behind it. And so then, yeah, after getting dizzy for a while, I was like, okay, maybe now just do a fall back from the desk. And he was getting it. But you had to explain to him, it's like, so now if Josh wasn't here or no one was here, what would happen?

Tommy: You gotta treat them like they're dumb because he just doesn't know. They don't know what they don't know. And so he would have tried to fall back to a trust fall off a table.

Josh: You reckon he wouldn't have?

Tommy: Nah, nah. I give him, I give him the benefit of the doubt that he wouldn't. But I also like to just do it just in case. It's for my conscience. But anyway, last night he, he knows, you know, when I think pets or like they know, like birds, if you feed birds in a spot, they'll come back for you know, they'll come back for the food. They know it's like animals are very good at that and resourceful at like, if I can get something somewhere and I, then they start just, you know, coming back. It's why you always see something like someone at a holiday house can feed birds on there.

Josh: Why is it always a holiday house? Why don't we make it just a house thing? Why only on holidays do we feed birds? Well, it's true. When you said feeding birds, I'm like, yeah, Marimbula. Yeah. Hamilton Island.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: I've never done it. I want to do it at home. I want to be in Collingwood. Just with a piece of bread and waiting for some hawk to come and take it.

Tommy: Maybe it's like, it's real sort of, it seems derelict or something in city living to do it, to feed birds. You could be seen as someone who's—

Josh: Like a birdman.

Tommy: Birdman, yeah. But when you're on holiday, there's something, it's an Instagrammable moment.

Josh: They're colourful.

Tommy: And so Bodhi is that bird that has found the food and that food lives at Michelle Timms' house. Our next door neighbor.

Josh: Hard to— Timms.

Tommy: Yeah, Michelle Timms. Timms basketball.

Josh: Still plays, probably.

Tommy: One of the best. Has a coaching, um, has a coaching program. Look that up. Let's put in the show notes. Has a business that she started.

Josh: Anyway, could we play basketball with her soon, do you think?

Tommy: Oh, definitely. Yeah, we had a piss-up last night at her joint.

Josh: You're saying she enjoys white wine and gin?

Tommy: Well, they're the drinks that I've, um, seen her and spoken to her when she's having. And so anyway, we went in and it was impromptu. The next minute we got wine out, Bodhi's running around, and Bodhi goes straight to Michelle's chocolate drawer.

Josh: He knew where the chocolate drawer was.

Tommy: He knows where the fucking chocolate drawer in Michelle's house is.

Josh: Where is it?

Tommy: I don't even know. I just see him going. He's like, she's like, yep, go to the drawer. And he just runs over, gets his chocolate. And he, by the end of the night, Bodhi had this huge piece of chocolate covering his face and it was melted. And he's just like jumping around. He was so high on sugar and he had the leaf blower just walking around blowing shit, like doing nothing, like not blowing anything, but just like, look at me. Anyway, what I worked out, it was the chocolate on his face was from an ice cream. And this was, I got handed half a Magnum from my wife and I should have been suspicious at this point because who hands over half a Magnum?

Josh: I feel like I know where this is going, mate, because I started eating that Magnum and I was like, this is the best Magnum I've ever had.

Tommy: Nah, see, it was a bit pissy and I was like, anyway, I just started, I was like, it doesn't taste quite right. And I ate the sort of chocolate on, it's like, that's nice. And then I was like, sorry, what is wrong? What is wrong with this Magnum? I said, oh, is this soy? Is this a soy Magnum? And they're like, yeah. No wonder it got this handed to me from my wife. It was atrocious.

Josh: It's a big thing. I saw Shannon from Queensland. She reckons it's their best, whatever she had the other night. She has an ice cream every night, by the way. Every night after dinner.

Tommy: I messaged her because I saw her posting about how she, she was something about like a soy. I was having the one that she had. That's why I was like, oh my God, someone else is posting about it.

Josh: She was saying it's better than a Magnum.

Tommy: I disagree. I just heavily disagree.

Josh: What was the, but the other thing that Shannon said was she liked it because it didn't have that coconut milk taste.

Mason: Uh, if Shannon had the almond dairy-free one, she says they're great.

Tommy: Almond dairy-free? Yeah, I mean, I think some people would really like it, but when you're just thinking that you're having a normal Magnum and, uh, it is very disappointing, to be honest.

Josh: Do you remember the first time you ever had a Magnum?

Tommy: Absolutely not. I once, um—

Mason: But do you?

Tommy: Yes, that's really—

Josh: It was on the, uh, it was on a boat It was, um, you know, the boat that's near, um, it's not Blairgowrie or whatever, but it goes from like the Mornington Peninsula to Queenscliff Ferry. And, uh, must be my mum's auntie. It would have been in the '90s, and she said, I'll buy you an ice cream, what do you want? And I just like— Magnums were for adults— and I just fucking tossed a coin and thought, fuck it, I'll do it. I'm like, get a Magnum please. And she's like, sure. And so that was it, because I used to have the Choc Wedges, which is an extremely povo Magnum. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's actually a joke, um, if you compare it to a Magnum. And so yeah, that was the first time I just remember being on the boat just like, and Mum, like her face, like just saying, it's like seeing your kid rock up like driving a Tesla. Where the fuck do you get that from?

Tommy: I, when I lived in Shepparton, I had a couple of housemates and Tracy, one of them, said to me, oh, can you get me some ice cream from the store? I was going to Coles. She— and I said, what do you want? Ah, something, um, something really good, something. Anyway, so I was like, okay. And then I went and I was like, I got her, um, I was like, oh, uh, I got her so good.

Josh: Oh no, why?

Tommy: Because all I just heard the good bit. I was like, oh, she definitely said the good something really good, something so good. I got back and I had this, I was like, so disappointing. Yeah, God, it's so good.

Josh: Uh, Connoisseur ice cream, still a thing? Yeah, yeah, still get the tubs of Connoisseur. I feel like they've branched out into stick ice creams now, but can you just—

George: I think you can.

Tommy: Yeah, I got the best ice cream of— I think it's my favourite flavor.

Josh: What is that?

Tommy: Um, caramel, um, fudge brownie caramel, but it's not, it's not dark chocolate ice cream. It's as in like the, the problem with all those ones is that it's a chocolate-based ice cream, which I like. I didn't want that. I want to— and so this Connoisseur one is— can you look it up, Sev? Um, it's like a caramel vanilla base with caramel through it and also chocolate brownie bits, almost like a cookies and cream. Yeah, but way better. It's my favourite one.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: And I don't like— I've eaten heaps of that shit in my time and I've never felt compelled to say something's my favourite because I'm like, I like cookies and cream, I like the vanilla one, I like the macadamia and salted caramel.

Mason: It's actually on sale at Woolies at the moment.

Tommy: What? How much?

Mason: $7.50.

Josh: Life hack. $7.50 sounds expensive.

Mason: Was $11.

Tommy: I paid $11 for it and it was fucking worth it.

Josh: Whereabouts? Woolies?

Mason: Yeah, Woolies.

Josh: Now can you make sure that that's in store and not just online?

Mason: I believe it is in store.

Josh: Okay.

Mason: Oh, wow.

Josh: Do you know the biggest— I'll just quickly—

Mason: Josh Shannon wants to know your favourite ice cream flavour or your favourite ice cream ever.

Josh: Um, it's a good question.

Tommy: You see what I mean? Like, you love a lot of ice cream. I'm the same guy, but— and so I haven't—

Josh: flavors. So like, for me, it was like a, uh, I think in Italian it's fondant. Like, it's like a dark chocolate that I'd always have. When I'd be in like Italy and getting the chocolate. And so it's like real, it's sort of shit your pants dark, you know, real. It's like, yeah, hurts your tummy afterwards, but it's great. That with like a peanut butter is great. You wouldn't see that in Italy. Yeah. Peanut. What are you laughing at?

Mason: Just why are you talking about gelato in Italy?

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: You're not going to see that in gelato. The peanut butter.

Josh: Yeah.

George: Yeah.

Josh: Um, does that not make sense?

Mason: No, that makes sense.

Josh: So like, if you go to Melbourne, if you go to Messina, you'll see like the Elvis where they put brioche and they put like— you're not going to a gelato place in Italy and saying like that type of—

Tommy: Oh, we've completely bastardised ice cream in Australia. Like, it's amazing, but it's kooky as hell. Like, you get the classic flavours in Italy. You're getting lemons, you know, you're getting lemon, you're getting sorbet, sorbet stuff. And then you get, you're getting tiramisu.

Josh: Yeah, sure. But sorbet, like lemon, I see as a, it's a palate cleanser at best.

Tommy: You know what I mean?

Josh: Like it's a thing to reset before. I'm serious though.

Tommy: No, I know what you mean. And the thing is, when I was in Sorrento in Italy, had some of the best ice cream, I asked person walking next to us and they said, you got to go. Oh no, we— I mean, I was sitting in a nice restaurant and we said, where should we get gelato? And, and a man or woman said, down here, look there, that's where it is. Do not get the ones where you can see the ice cream. It's in the tin like that. They have to—

Josh: It shouldn't be a lump of ice. You shouldn't be able to see the gelato. Yeah, should be covered.

Tommy: And, and so I went and I got the best tiramisu ice cream I've ever had in my life.

George: I reckon I've been to that same one. Yeah, in Sorrento.

Mason: Yeah.

George: Did you have to sit down outside? Like, there's like tables and stuff.

Tommy: There was a— yeah, there was a little table area, but it was just—

George: you're describing a lot of drinks, but we went to get ice cream and just went to walk away like a normal person. It's like, no, no, you have to sit down.

Josh: Are you talking about Sorrento, Italy, or Italy?

Tommy: Because you were down the Mornington Peninsula on the weekend drinking anything.

Josh: Yeah, but yeah, they did the vanilla slice Slices. Yeah, um, a vanilla slice would be great in an ice cream as well, or even a lemon. Um, I mean, you're gonna move on.

Tommy: How much? I'm happy to go food chat because it's just ice cream chats. It's not as triggering.

George: Who does—

Tommy: if you don't like ice cream, get out. Um, what's the most you've paid for an ice cream on this earth?

Josh: Uh, oh yeah, I actually know. San Diego.

George: America.

Josh: $20 for a cone.

Tommy: Yeah, actually, I— So, I reckon €12 or €11.

Josh: That would be—

Tommy: Yeah, that's around $20.

Josh: It was outrageous. It was in the—

Tommy: So much money.

Josh: San Diego, they've got like the island where they've got like the big— The hotel with the architecture and stuff. I just remember like it was a— It's a classic tourist trap, but I've also done the same thing. Going to Paris and getting crepes under the Eiffel Tower. It's just like you couldn't get more sort of tourist scum than that. Yeah.

Tommy: And they're average at best. Like, you're not getting the best quality. Isn't that annoying that you're tourist more?

George: Yeah.

Tommy: The tourist traps are never the good stuff. So, yeah, it's—

Josh: Do you remember when I did a lot? I did— I had a whole segment, Life Traps.

Tommy: No, Life Traps. That was when you were travelling. Yeah.

Josh: And there was definitely one around. I don't mind paying a bunch, but paying a bunch for shit food is the absolute worst.

Tommy: It's very disappointing.

Josh: I mean, that's— I feel like when people come to Melbourne, where do they— where are the go-to places in Melbourne?

Tommy: Tourist traps are Lygon Street, so Italian-inspired, Chapel Street, any of the main— like Chadstone. They're all sort of where tourists head to. Hosier Lane or like around there.

Josh: Where could you get— I'm trying to think of like, what's it called, what would a tourist trap be? Like, you're gonna get good smashed avo basically anywhere.

Tommy: Yeah, but to get— yeah, but then to go to a boutiquey style cafe, then you go AU79. It's not in the city, it's outside, but then you go to Lygon Street because it's like, ah, that's the Italian quarters of this, of the CBD. And then it's just average food.

Josh: Well, it's like, I guess, in most of them, like the Coffee Club, like you shouldn't go to sort of those bigger establishments unless you're Harry.

Tommy: Yeah, Harry.

Josh: Harry, when, uh, when he was in Melbourne, Bree and I wanted to go somewhere nice for breakfast. He's like, nah, I want to go to, um, Coffee Club at the train station.

Tommy: It makes sense. I mean, regional living in Shepparton, there is coffee clubs. People actually go to these places. There's the locals.

Josh: Yeah, I mean, so yeah, I get it.

Tommy: If you just want, if you just want a banana bread, it makes sense, you know, makes sense.

Josh: Uh, George, Mornington Peninsula.

George: Yep, I was down there on the weekend.

Tommy: Our travel reporter George.

Josh: How was it?

George: Yeah, it was nice. Uh, it's down there with the family, so it's my uncle's 60th. It's like probably like 20 people. Down there.

Josh: All family?

George: All family. All cousins, partners, aunties, uncles.

Josh: How often do you see them?

George: Not very often. Maybe like once. Oh, some cousins maybe a few times a year, but the other ones not for years. Yeah.

Tommy: How do you go with family that you haven't seen? Like sometimes family get-togethers can be a bit painful.

George: Yeah, no, I'm okay with it. I like It's good to catch up with people, but—

Tommy: Oh, such a diplomatic answer. Yeah, look, you know, it's great to see others.

Josh: It's a temperament thing.

George: But nah, I mean, I'm all right with it as long as you have time to just sort of relax, do your own thing.

Tommy: But you did on one occasion drink wine, beer, gin.

George: Drink a lot.

Tommy: You went hard.

George: Yeah, wine, beer, gin, champagne.

Tommy: I mean, that helps get through any family occasion. Oh, Christmas night. I hadn't told you this. Woke up to just vicious screaming. So I was up in Amy's— at Amy's mum's house up in Sydney, and very quiet out in the burbs where she lives in this sort of like countryside area. Oh man, there was some blow-up between some woman and, and, um, it was like a— obviously a family. They all got on the— got on the piss, and next minute, 2 AM, just yelling at each other out the front, just crying. Just like it was all alcohol-fueled. When you know it was just like someone's being so fuckin' inconsolable, it's because they're pissed. They're like, go inside, like, let's get inside.

Mason: No!

Tommy: Just like being a child out the front.

Josh: I've never—

Tommy: it's so full-on.

Josh: Well, because I'm new to sort of drinking, I've only really— so far my drinking experience has been like drinking some wine, go to bed. But I feel like this is a whole untapped potential for me, which is I've never had a drunken blow-up.

Tommy: Well, the problem you had— a blow-up with you at best is, um, very sort of emotional. And so you can just get stuck in this loop. So you're just like, you can't get it, you know what, you know it. Yeah, you just have no perspective. You're like, you just keep going, keep going.

Josh: Yeah, I'd write a blog post. I'd be like, I'm getting out WordPress.

George: I know, put it away, you're not doing a blog.

Josh: I'm writing about this.

Tommy: Get out of— don't buy that domain.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, fuck. I wonder how many, uh, domains have been, uh, drunken domain name purchases.

Tommy: Well, that's a big thing. Dumb ones, dumb ones.

Josh: Well, that's a big thing is like e-com, like people buying shit when they're on the piss, like e-commerce type of stuff. Bree, uh, Bree got this, um, what's a— you can't— you're gonna fuck what it's called. She went to a, um, She did like an online order on Zara and she was, uh, talking about a, uh, she got this specific dress. What are you doing, Sebbs? Oh, we're wrapping up. We're gonna wrap it up. Yeah. Uh, yeah, Bri got a dress and, uh, she asked me, is it too big or do you like it? I'm like, I think it looks great. I like it.

Mason: Looks—

Josh: and she wore it all day. Anyway, um, we'll FaceTiming with Happy Harry last night and he goes, oh, cute poncho. You know, then he also said, he's like, then he followed up with, hey, I need to, there's a few defects in my apartment block, but I don't think they're going to take me seriously if I go on my own. Bree, do you mind coming down and pretending to be my mum? Very similar age. Yeah, look, you know, like, so it's a little bit of a nightmare, but I'm happy Harry will definitely have him in, in the studio in the next few days.

Tommy: Well, he's moved to Melbourne, so we're pumped. All right, guys.

Josh: All right, it's a daily talk show. If you enjoy the show, give us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts. Also, if you're just listening to us or watching us randomly, you should subscribe on whatever platform that is, whether it's YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Pocket Casts, even Spotify. Otherwise, enjoy the rest of your day and we'll see you tomorrow.

George: See you guys.