Mr. 97 Opens Up About Sex

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 585.

Tommy: What's happening, guys? What's going on, Mr. 97?

Josh: You're, uh, you're on camera. You're in the middle.

Tommy: Yeah, how's it feel? Like, you're, you're over that side behind the panel, you're pulling shit up for us. What— how does it feel to be here in middle, in the middle of the boys?

Mason: Maybe a bit more confronting.

Tommy: Well, it usually only happens when something confronting is about to happen. Yeah, because, uh, your knee feels very warm by by the way.

Mason: Is it?

Josh: Yeah, really.

Tommy: Um, one of the things I love about you is you, you go red, like it's old school, I reckon. Like, remember kids blushing at school?

Josh: Now, like, you remember kids blushing?

Mason: Yeah, hey, I blush.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, I go red pretty easily, but I, I feel like people don't blush like they used to. What happened? Unless they're drinking a lot of red wine.

Josh: Yeah, it was a kid's, it's a bit of a kid's thing. Was it a, a thing that you're conscious about growing up, about your flushing?

Mason: No, not really. I mean, you can't stop it.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. I mean, just let it happen. You can with makeup, mate. I mean, women who are wearing makeup, or men that blush hard, you can't see it. That's why on TV you have makeup. That's why Aaron from Ticker wears makeup. Yeah, not for the blushing bit, but because you just lose any—

Josh: or the red line.

Tommy: Hey Aaron, love you in studio.

Josh: Um, no, so the reason you're in the front, uh, Mr. 97, is because the day— today is the day where we are releasing a video that we made in December.

Tommy: How are you feeling about this, buddy?

Mason: Um, yeah, I mean, yeah, a bit nervous.

Josh: It's about sex. So we changed that.

Tommy: It's very fitting that we're talking about blushing because it's what's about to happen to Mr. 96.

Josh: You didn't really blush too much in there. You were pretty calm on the day.

Mason: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, I think that was, that was you guys and Scooter Derek doing a good job. Yeah.

Josh: And so we, uh, teamed up with Four Seasons Condoms and Scooter Derek, and, uh, he performed a generation intervention.

Tommy: So we heard earlier, we even talked about this with Ash Williams, people aren't young, the younger generation aren't having sex anymore.

Josh: It's a sex recession.

Tommy: And so it's because of shit like Tinder and porn and a bunch of others. So why aren't people having sex with Tinder?

Josh: That's why I don't understand.

Tommy: I don't understand.

Josh: Isn't Tinder giving you more sex?

Mason: Well, I think you just like—

Tommy: yeah, well, you could say that, but I think there's also sitting behind the computer, like matching is already giving you some kind of, you know, just to have a desktop version. No, no.

Josh: Could you imagine if you're like sitting in front of this fucking—

Tommy: yeah, but I mean, maybe it's just like you're interacting through just— it's like that's— yeah, that ease. I think there's also the drinking thing. I mean, Mr. Nice Abs hasn't drank until he met us, and he doesn't drink. He's had one glass of wine, not even, he's had a beer. And so there's a bunch of those things that are happening, which is why it's not happening. Um, and so this is why it's fitting, the partnership with Four Seasons Condoms is perfect because you, my friend, are an interesting cat, and I'll say that in the kindest possible way.

Josh: Well, yeah, I don't think they'll necessarily expect it, you know, sex, uh, or generation intervention could happen with just a young person not having much sex, this is a, another ball game. This is, this is, uh, we're speaking about a virgin here. And so we've got a 5-minute video of you and Scooter that we recorded, uh, in December, which we'll now play.

Tommy: If you're listening to this, go to YouTube, listen now, but also go and watch.

Josh: Yeah, definitely. Oh yeah, we'll put it on IGTV.

Tommy: Yeah, it's everywhere, you know, it's everywhere.

Josh: Any final words before you, uh Before we play, enjoy the video. Okay, here we go. Our 20-year-old producer Mr. 97 has done a lot of things for the first time recently.

Derek: What have I done?

Tommy: What do you mean?

Josh: But one thing he hasn't done is have sex. So we got our mate 53-year-old Scooter Derek to surprise him with a generation intervention.

Derek: Thanks, 97, for sitting down with me today. My generation were rooting like rabbits at your age, as every generation beforehand. Putting it simply, you guys don't seem to be rooting. This is a generation intervention. This is going to sort you out. Yeah, I reckon you'll be chopping in a week. Do you overthink sex and how it's going to be?

Mason: I ref— I think I refrain myself from overthinking. So I probably would have the tendency to do it, and so I think there's probably a filter where I'm like, if I underthink and I push it away and I don't think about it, then it doesn't exist and I don't have to, you know, spend time thinking about what it is and what it would be like and who it's with and how it happens. There's not a willingness to put myself in a situation where it could lead to sex. There's a whole sort of foreignness about it. You've got the, you've got the examples of like what you see in porn and what you see in TV shows and movies and all that sort of stuff, but there's still— it still feels super foreign in terms of how you lead into it, how you engage, all that sort of stuff.

Derek: So you still live at home with your parents?

Mason: Yeah.

Derek: As I'm, I'm told everyone does.

Mason: Yeah.

Derek: When the time comes and you've got a girl around and in your room and you— would you feel comfortable, uh, getting stuck in? You would just feel comfortable having sex in there when you're— when your parents are at home?

Tommy: Are you—

Mason: well, I mean, my parents' bedroom is right upstairs, directly above you. Yeah, on top.

Derek: Yeah, I think technically it's— that's better than downstairs. I think you're better off being at the bottom.

Mason: Yeah, I mean, that's, that's a thought, right? Like, where, where do you where do you go? Like, because it's a bit, it's a bit weird bringing them home if, if people are home and you want to have sex. But I mean, I guess you find a time when no one's there.

Derek: Or yeah, or maybe not take porn once again into account when thinking about how loud it's going to be and how long it's going to take and stuff like that.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Derek: But, but yeah, okay, so you're okay with that?

Mason: You don't feel like it's a sacred No, it was just more of like, it's a bit uncomfortable not knowing where people are, if they're going to come home, like, yeah, all that sort of stuff.

Derek: Do you feel like in your family, do people just walk in and out of doors and or knock and open? Is it like Seinfeld where they just barge in?

Mason: Barge in.

Derek: Okay, yeah, so that would probably change. You find that it would change if you had a girlfriend around?

Mason: Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think the door would be shut a bit more.

Derek: In a perfect world, your first time. Where is it? Who is it? What's happening? What's the lead-up?

Mason: The first time, I want it to be more romantic. So I don't know, I feel like somewhere out of, out of my room, out of my house would be nice because that just feels a bit strange. And making it this sort of like special occasion would be nicer than just in my bedroom downstairs. Yeah. Yeah.

Derek: So can you see any romance in hooking in in a frenzy in a McDonald's car park at midnight?

Josh: No, definitely not.

Derek: Do you?

Tommy: Oh, wow.

Derek: There's romance in everything if you look at it the right way.

Josh: Through the right lens.

Derek: Um, so who is it like in, in a perfect world? I'm not talking about bodies and stuff like that, but you know, what does he or she look like?

Mason: It's just someone that you, you have fun with and you're willing to experiment and test and, and learn. And it's not really much of an appearance thing, it's just who you're comfortable being around and doing it with.

Derek: If you were going on a date, you thought she was beautiful, you'd already been and had a coffee, and you're going on another date, would you take condoms with you?

Josh: That's a good question.

Mason: I mean, I would say rush down to the shop right before.

Derek: I mean, you mean you haven't got some ready?

Tommy: What's going on here?

Mason: No, I don't.

Tommy: What? Oh mate, fucking hell. Can you believe that this is your job? The weird and wacky world of a podcast producer.

Josh: Testing and learning. Real agile approach.

Derek: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: Fail fast, fail hard. He's a Scrum Master.

Tommy: 50 Kanban in the States.

Josh: From foreplay, what's definition of done? I mean, definition of done is different from yours. When are we shipping this? This is, uh, how do you feel?

Mason: Yeah, I don't even know.

Josh: I mean, you've had some time to reflect because it's been around a month since we filmed it. What have you reflected on?

Mason: Um, well, I mean, I guess, I guess the sort of thinking around all of it is naive because I don't have anything else to go off, but I think there's, I don't know, maybe something fun and a bit interesting about leaning into that.

Josh: So how can we— how could— like, yeah, I mean, the classic, uh, coaching question is, how can we help? How can we help?

Tommy: Yeah.

Mason: Um, well, I don't know. I don't know if you need to.

Josh: Like, that's a fair question. Well, like, I mean, it's not our business.

Tommy: It's inferring that there's a problem. We could say the help is Uh, to just— I mean, I think we've— I think Four Seasons Condoms are helping us shift his attention to something that he wasn't thinking about.

Josh: But Tully has criticised us on sort of being too hands-on with you. Do you think that's the case?

Mason: Um, maybe a little bit, but it's not like— it doesn't— that doesn't really bother me. Like, I think I appreciate that. But yeah, I know it's something that will eventually happen, so I don't see a need to rush it or force it or Yeah, I mean, don't force it.

Tommy: There's a— the— I love the dynamic between Josh and I. I feel like you— have you learned to go to Josh for certain bits of information, or oral sex expert? If you are gonna talk, that's the shit you're gonna get. But if you're gonna speak to him about an approach, or you speak to me about an approach, you're gonna get two different versions, I think. Um, I mean, I'm just— is that something you've recognised between our relationship?

Mason: Yeah, well, I think it's Tommy, you come in with, I guess, the approach of he's the jam, I'm the marmalade.

Tommy: I don't know the difference between the two.

Josh: Neither do I, that's why it's funny. But what do you know? What do you see?

Tommy: They're both sweet spreads.

Mason: Well, you have, you have different takes on it because you've experienced different things. And so it's not, it's not that I go to one of you when I see a benefit in, okay, Josh is gonna provide me with better advice. I think it's more just like both of you have these experiences and I can just sort of ask you both about it.

Tommy: Yeah. I mean, mate, thank you for being so open. Like, I think that's the— you're leaning in 100% this year, and I think that's the very start of— I mean, that's really fucking just sending you up into the stratosphere of leaning in. I mean, talking about this shit on video.

Josh: Editing is funny because Uh, just, I, I reckon I got it down from 15 minutes to 5 minutes just cutting out some of the awkward silence. No content, just the side, just you thinking.

Mason: There's a lot of that.

Josh: You're doing a lot of thinking. Yeah, because I, where do I go? Like, I go into this like place of living vicariously through you. I'm like, what a great opportunity, just having sex for the first time, doing it. And I almost like lean into the like, yeah, do it in a romantic place. But then where I think my, like, sort of fall off the rails is I say, okay, well, like, how do we, how do we sit? Like, do we organise an evening for him? And he's like, but then that seems weird, right? You invite someone to a hotel for the first— like, yeah, it all seems a bit much.

Tommy: Um, I mean, now that you understand what a generation, generation intervention is, do you think it's more— you're seeing it more in the people around you? Of your generation?

Josh: The sex recession?

Tommy: The sex recession.

Mason: Yeah, yeah, I think that there definitely is, but whether that's like— I don't know if it's a thing that people are sort of like actively seeking and thinking about. Like, I don't know if it's much of a pressure that people like, oh yeah, I really have to have sex.

Tommy: Well, you don't know what you don't know until you realise that there was a— it was a complete different way.

Josh: So does it mean that hormones are lower? Siri just went off.

Tommy: Siri wants to chime in. It went off in the background. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, this is— do we need to get another blood test?

Josh: Yeah, hormones or whatever.

Tommy: But no, I don't think we're saying there's nothing wrong. There's nothing wrong with you. I love— however, I love— I just love— I wonder what Bodhi and his generation will be like. My son who was born in 20—

Josh: Bodhi will be an animal.

Tommy: 17. Bodhi, I mean, you've seen photos of him at the dinner table. Yeah. Penis in hand. Kids do. Oh mate, I gotta tell you, I was on the phone last night, someone I have never spoken to in my life. It was a conversation on the phone, on telemarketer. No, I spoke on text. She very friendly. Jess. Oh yeah, coffee on Friday.

Josh: The way you sort of delivered that.

Tommy: Yeah, but I'd never spoken to them, so I'm on there and so you're trying to sort of give you, put your best foot forward, and then you just hear me mid-conversation just— she's thinking I've got some kind of thing going on, Tourette's. Yeah, and, um, she even said that. And I was like, no, no, Bodhi just had a pair of pliers and was going at my car door. He got the pliers to the car door. I love how you care about—

Josh: it was— no, no, no, it was gonna go to his dick. Yeah, because you always end up saying that. You were there.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what, I wouldn't have cared so much. It was my fucking car. You know, his dick will grow back. His dick will at least heal itself. My car panel, I have to pay to get resprayed. He nearly just went. And so he's wild and he just doesn't know what he doesn't know. So he doesn't get that using this on the car— Jules Lund's kid drew like, I think wrote "Love you, Mummy" or something in the side of their car.

Josh: Absolute nightmare.

Tommy: How were you as a kid? Were you a little terror or you— I mean, you were a sweet little angel now that I think about it.

Derek: You're in the choir.

Tommy: You would sleep all the time.

Josh: You'd also sleep all the time. Is that true?

Mason: Yeah, that's what Mum said. I was talking to Mum the other day about it and she was— She used to work at like this international school in New Zealand teaching them, and she used to bring me in and put me in the other room when I was a baby and just put me down for sleeps and then go teach a class and then come pick me back up at the end.

Tommy: You hear about these little angels that you can take to a bar or take to, you know, like a restaurant, put them under the table while you're having dinner. Just in their little port-a-cot. No, no, the port-a-cot, like their little, um, capsule from the car.

Josh: Were you ever like that?

Tommy: Absolutely not.

Josh: Never. Even like early days.

Tommy: There's a gremlin, looks like some spawn out of it, but cute too, you know. Like, that's where your heart just melts. And it's because he's like, I love this kid. It's kind of like you, just like, I love this guy. I just love Mr. Test and Learn.

Josh: That was very fun, the test and learn. So you don't realise how many things that you pick, like You pick up so much stuff from TJ. Friction too.

Mason: A lot of friction.

Josh: Yeah, there's no traction without friction. Filters or whatever. And so, um, so leaning in, uh, in, uh, 2020, one of the things is, uh, the Lifehack Club. Can we have some updates on our clubs?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Uh, 97, I know you've been doing some work on your text message services.

Mason: Yeah, I, I found one that I'm gonna use, and, uh, it's pretty good because you can, you can send out your mass alerts to everyone, but you can also have a normal conversation with them. So you can just message them back in the app and it sends it as a text.

Josh: So when are you going to be implementing that?

Mason: Um, we just have to subscribe. You just have to pay the subscription.

Derek: And how much?

Mason: And then I'm ready. Uh, $20 a month.

Josh: Can we do that?

Tommy: Uh, as I look to the CFO, I mean, now I need to look to our accountant. Yeah, I'll message him.

Josh: I think it would be pretty fun, like, because obviously when you get a new accountant, uh, they want to see how often you're contacting them. There would be— it would be pretty funny just to call them on a random basis. Hey mate, Look, I'm just paying for lunch and coffees. Are we able to pay the coffees and the meals at the same time? And what's the—

Tommy: You're on the premium plan, the high-touch plan, mate. You can call me anytime you want. That's all right.

Josh: And so, okay, we'll do the, um, those text message things that will also help our clubs as well. Yeah, the book club and the adventure club.

Tommy: Yeah, I think I'm, I'm wanting to go quite big for my first one.

Josh: Have you been playing? Because I know I did this, I reckon, in school as well.

Tommy: What's this?

Josh: Where it's like you haven't been doing anything and you've been putting something off for so long.

Derek: Yeah.

Josh: And so you get to a point where all you can do is say something big's coming. You haven't done anything, but something big's coming. Is there a little bit of that? Have you done nothing but you're saying something big's coming?

Tommy: Yeah, I'm saying something big's coming, but it's been on my mind.

Josh: And, um, but has anything actually happened? Have you done anything?

Tommy: No, I haven't done anything.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: I've, I've, I mean, I've done something mentally. Done something? Is that what you're asking?

Derek: You've thought about it.

Mason: But so you've got, have you got, have you even got a big idea?

Josh: Or because I feel like I've caught myself in a corner where I'm like, I've even got the idea, but I'm like, oh, the only way that I'm good— I haven't spoken about it. So the only way—

Tommy: it's like when you're hooking, teasing to something.

Josh: Yeah, well, it's going to be big and then the pressure's on to deliver.

Tommy: So it's not in terms of an adventure in terms— in respects to going out to the wilderness or anything like that. So it's, it's lo-fi compared to that. But getting a bunch of Gronks together and going to Urban Surf, which I'm going to speak to my mate Brent Valli tomorrow on the show about his experience there. But this is the wave park, the surf, surf park. It's like surfing next to the Tullamarine Airport.

Josh: Is it indoor?

Tommy: No, it's outside. It's outdoor.

Josh: It's a man-made wave adventure.

Tommy: Yeah, it's an adventure. You go out there, we're venturing out to Tullamarine.

Josh: Can we do paintball?

Tommy: It's so annoying. Paintball is so annoying.

Josh: So are the people at the the shopping centre trying to sell them.

Tommy: Oh my God, what a tough job. I mean, it's—

Josh: so they get— I think they get like for every, every person they get, that's like $50, they get $25.

Tommy: Do you think that's, uh, the worldwide— like people— like, is that happening over in the States, like, or Australia-wide, like the paintball thing? So you walk into a shopping centre in Melbourne—

Josh: to be honest, it's probably been like 5 years since it's happened to me.

Tommy: But I saw one, Donkut Shopo.

Mason: Oh really?

Tommy: Yep. Right near the supermarket, right near EB Games or one of those.

Josh: It's where you'd want to be.

Tommy: JB Hi-Fi coming down and they're just like, mate, you would be great at paintball. Absolutely not, mate. Yeah, hate it. I just hate it. So anyway, Urban Surf, get out there. I think we can incorporate the show into an episode and that's the ball's rolling.

Josh: Just buzzwords. So why is that big?

Tommy: Because it's, it's out and about, it's an established—

Josh: isn't it? Like you're in the Adventure Club.

Tommy: Yeah, mate, you gotta give it some bloody sizzle.

Josh: Yeah, no, but I just, I guess like the out and about thing is sort of implied, built in. Yeah, built in. And so I think that potentially that's very basic. I would say that's the opposite of big. I think that's accessible.

Mason: Why?

Josh: I think you could frame it the other way. As, as much as you could say, oh, it's going to be big, you could say, guys, I'm keeping it real simple. There's going to be a car park, you can go, okay, So, so yeah, very simple. That's okay. I'd love to do go-karting as well, if that could be part of you.

Mason: Oh yeah, Le Mans.

Josh: Oh yeah, Le Mans. I don't know if I can go there anymore.

Mason: Why?

Josh: What did you do after the—

Tommy: they're looking for a 120-kilo kid.

Josh: It's true, they don't know who you are. I, yeah, I got in a lot of trouble at Le Mans.

Tommy: Um, and so what about you? Big update or just no update?

Josh: No, no, no, uh, update. So my big things are happening. I got a big thing planned. Uh, in all seriousness, the, the book— what's the book called?

Mason: Uh, You're Not Listening.

Tommy: Do you know that you've resorted to Mr. 97 as your short-term memory? Yeah, like he is your memory.

Josh: He's my Evernote.

Mason: Well, you had a meltdown yesterday.

Josh: What about?

Mason: You read out the wrong show title. Oh, we had to restart.

Josh: Yeah, that was annoying. It took me—

Tommy: I was double—

Mason: like, I had to double-check.

Josh: That's why it took so long to sort of like It's surprising because we've done it before and then you just like, we correct it in show and keep going.

Tommy: We had guests on.

Josh: Yeah, but, um, made sense. And so this book, the thing that I want to get— have we got the Amazon affiliate sorted? Yeah, I've set that up with our bank account attached.

Mason: Yes.

Josh: Okay, so can we get a— can you put a link to the book from— with our Amazon affiliate link? Yeah. And then I'll go hard in the Facebook group. We've got a Facebook group. If you go to facebook.com/groups/thedailytalkshow, we have an exclusive group currently of only 200 people, which you will see the video of Mr.

Tommy: 97.

Josh: Well, I'm thinking about cutting it off at 210 people.

Tommy: Absolutely not.

Mason: Why 210?

Josh: Well, I just wanted to try and get an odd and then reopen.

Mason: Yeah, sure.

Josh: It's closed anyway.

Tommy: It's a closed group.

Josh: Yeah, I was trying to add some sizzle anyway. So, but what we can do is tonight, yeah, not to take away from everything that you're doing with your Generation Intervention, but I'm going to do that book. That is the book we're doing and we're going to start at Feb 1st.

Tommy: Which, what are the terms of reading a book? Like, how does a book club work? Do you, you don't know yet?

Josh: No.

Tommy: So you read in a month?

Josh: No. So the way, 3 months? And this is where I'm being, I've been a little bit selfish.

Tommy: Have you read the book?

Josh: Yeah. And I've like, well, so that's me lying. That's the big thing. I haven't started, but I definitely plan to. That's the big thing. Yeah.

Tommy: A few good photos, a few Insta posts.

Josh: Yeah, I did a photo of the book and I put the book next to my bed, so it's moved its way from the shelf to the next stage. And the next stage is opening it up. And so what I was planning on doing was getting a head start. And wouldn't it be great for me to announce the book and I've already read it?

Mason: But you haven't.

Josh: I haven't, but we're announcing it now. And so what we'll do is—

Tommy: What's the book called?

Josh: The book is called—

Mason: You're not listening.

Josh: You're not listening.

Mason: Can't remember the author's name.

Tommy: How ironic.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: When you can't remember the title.

Josh: But I read a good New York Times article about it, so I can link to that in our Facebook group. But so today, today, everyone, I want you to buy the book. Through our link and then put in the comments, bought the book. And then starting Feb 1st, you have to start reading it. Feb 15th is, uh, the first conversation on the show about the book.

Tommy: I didn't know what's happening on the show. So this is now like a lot of people that have zero care about it.

Mason: Well, so, okay, but you're gonna have to close it off like a—

Tommy: it's some kind of like invite zone. That's a Zoom call. Do a Zoom call.

Josh: Yeah, let's do that.

Tommy: Yeah, because that's where it's like—

Josh: I can't talk about it on the show.

Mason: Can you not do a group, group chat on Facebook? No, no, on Insta— on, um, Instagram you can do group calls.

Tommy: Okay, we'll do something.

Josh: Or Facebook or whatever. Okay, so I'll do maybe a group. That's what I'm gonna do. Fuck, this is good. I'll put it in, um, you know how there's a feature that you can join a chat in Instagram? So you can say join our chat and you click it and you go into a group, an Instagram group.. And so what I'll do is I'll set that up today and say, are you going to join? Join now, click here. They enter the chat. I then have the affiliate link. They buy the book, we get our 3%, and then I start giving them what they want.

Tommy: Yeah, I like it. I like it. I was blown away today when we were at your place and doing some filming, and I went into your spare room. It's, it's your book. It's your book room because that's where you're—

Josh: library, personal library.

Tommy: I looked at the bookshelf. Couple things jumped out at me. A lot of books.

Josh: I was gonna say not enough books at the moment.

Tommy: A lot of books. Second thing jumped out at me, you spent more time colour coding that fucking thing than reading books, right? Yeah, so that was, that was a bloody effort because that is some great whites, blacks, reds. Oh, like it's, it's better than a library.

Josh: To be honest though, the— it's sort of the dummies way of organising books.

Tommy: Well, it makes sense to the eye. Yeah, it doesn't make sense to the the whatever the topic is.

Josh: I was looking at the Dewey Decimal— Oh my God, the Dewey system.

Tommy: I don't even know. Yeah, D-E-W. And, um, I just remember as a kid.

Mason: Yeah. And so, and anyways, you could have a computer in there and you could type in your thing and it brings up the little code.

Josh: So I've got the iPad for that.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And so that's why I was saying to 97, one thing that Bree and I are going to invest in Uh, not spending— where is Josh going to invest? It's actually— she's on board.

Derek: Okay.

Josh: Um, we, we saw some great—

Tommy: you know that, um, Architect's Digest, um, YouTube channel that you told you're obsessed with?

Josh: Yep. And so they have like people in their houses and they all have really good books, like heaps, or some— the ones that we love, they have books everywhere. And so I was thinking, okay, what does furniture cost? What does a good couch cost?

Derek: A lot.

Josh: $10,000.

Tommy: Yeah, that's a lot of— yeah, yeah, you can get it.

Josh: And so the thing is that we don't— from an apartment point of view, we're not going to spend $10,000 on a couch. We spend $600.

Tommy: Great.

Josh: And Bree wants to get a great couch. Yeah. Um, and but what we can invest in, what's not going to change, is books. And so from now until we buy our own place, I'm building the library. And so when we move into a place and we're doing the interior design I was saying to 97, we're gonna have a 3-bedroom place. Bren and I will have like a main room, makes sense. Um, then there'll be a second room which is like a study, and a third room which is a guest room. And so if 97 ever stays, he, uh, he will basically arrive and there'll be a little minibar of Hey Tiger chocolate, which we've paid for at a staff discount, and a, uh, and a soap and then the iPad and the soap. Little soap.

Mason: Yeah.

Derek: Yeah.

Josh: Like a cake. Soap cake. And on the iPad there'll be a little note and it will say, hey, Sev, thanks for staying. We're a book house and we like reading books. We don't watch that much TV.

Tommy: Which is wrong. It's absolutely wrong. But this is a new practice. Because you watch more television than read.

Josh: But it's a new practice.

Tommy: New year, new me.

Derek: Yeah.

Josh: Okay. So I see what you're doing. And so the idea is that he can then say, oh yeah, I want to read a book.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And so he can go through, see the library, see the catalog. I will then even— I'm hoping it's not a custom app. Hopefully there's something by this time that can do this, but I want to select books. So it's like Josh's pick of the week. So it's like, or I've even gone and said, this is what I think you would like. And so he's on the iPad. Yeah.

Tommy: And so he hasn't even touched the book yet.

Josh: No. And so then he— but this is where it becomes bookie. He'll look at the iPad and then he'll be like, oh, Iran, I want to learn more about Iran. He clicks on it, it says bottom of the stairs. And then he goes in, he goes through like a little wine cellar bit and there's like all the books on Iran. And he goes in, he grabs it. When he takes that book, it's— I get notified. And so I make sure that when he leaves, I take the book back and put it into the spot under the stairs. What do you think?

Tommy: I mean, it's an absolute quirk for a guy that doesn't really read books.

Josh: Well, I love books.

Tommy: No, I know you do, but Bill Gates loves books. He reads—

Mason: he reads—

Josh: no, but Bill Gates spends more time talking about reading books.

Tommy: Nah, I'm sure he's fucking—

Josh: I think he reads a lot. I mean, the interesting thing is there's 70 pages a minute.

Tommy: Yeah, he's a freak. There's 170 pages an hour. An hour. I just listen to 170 and then I tuned out.

Josh: Yeah, but no, but the thing is, I like reading, uh, and yeah, there's a lot of things I like but I don't do. What's one thing that you like that you don't do?

Tommy: Uh, surfing.

Josh: What's another one?

Tommy: Bike riding. Another? Um, I don't mind going bouldering.

Josh: Like, what's something that you say that you do or talk about, or it's really connected?

Tommy: I've stopped it. I mean, skating, all these things that I don't own a skateboard.

Josh: But those things you don't never talk about. I talk about books. And so the uncomfortable—

Tommy: I don't say I'm a fucking skater.

Josh: So you don't pose about anything?

Tommy: You'd probably have a better understanding of what you post. Yeah, because I don't— I think the posing is you're a bit delusional about how you're actually—

Josh: What do you think Tommy poses?

Tommy: Yeah, what do I pose about? Uh, am I just fucking boring? This is really hurtful. Oh, well, you don't have to be handyman.

Josh: You don't fucking do anything really with your hands.

Tommy: I don't have enough tools.

Mason: Bits and pieces.

Josh: You said, but not enough tools.

Tommy: I mean, but I mean, I've got more visual evidence than you. Yeah, than your post.

Mason: No, that's fair.

Josh: But what is the evidence? I've got more books.

Tommy: Look around you, Matt. Yeah, no, but that's not—

Josh: but if we counted how long you spent building this wall behind us versus how much time I've read, I've read more than you have building walls.

Tommy: I mean, it didn't take that long.

Josh: Anyway, so, uh, 97.

Tommy: Congratulations. I really saw the walking through the cellar into the—

Josh: isn't it a great idea?

Tommy: I mean, I mean, let's hope we fucking kill it with this business. Well, forget that thing.

Josh: Well, and so, well, the books. Yeah, you know I've gone quiet on that.

Tommy: Oh no, I get it. Because the books— kill it because of the house that you described was a fucking Manhattan mansion. No, it's something through it anyway. Two-story at least, the three-bedroom, wine cellar, $10,000 couch.

Josh: No, no, no, no, no touch.

Mason: $10,000.

Josh: $10,000 in books.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And so that's the thing, but you got—

Tommy: you chose to get a two-story.

Josh: Can you imagine me falling? You would. That brie will definitely have to do the ladder. But the, uh, like, as in, you have to have more cab brie.

Mason: No.

Josh: Yeah, yeah. But no, I think there's a, um, there's something nice about it. But I think the other thing too, like, you think about wine.

Tommy: I'm not gonna push you back. I'm saying we're just gonna— let's make some—

Josh: what I'm saying is I'm not gonna have many wine bottles. I think like a nice cellar or something, like 100 bottles. So if they're 100 bottles at around $100 a bottle, it's $10 grand.

Tommy: So you spend $10 grand on wine, the guy hasn't even got a couch at this point.

Josh: Maybe $10 grand on it, but say if you spend $10 grand, like, you have to replace those though.

Mason: But this is the thing, how many times are you going to drink them a week?

Josh: Yeah, 2 bottles a week. No, no, no. But I guess that's like the whole point, is it's There's things you don't have to have all the time.

Tommy: It's all for show, mate. My uncle is into wine, gets wine all the time. Does he drink? Has about 20 bottles. He drinks, but he's only got a stash that like, he's got his good stuff. You don't need a—

Josh: like, it's my point. The reason I brought up the wine thing was because it's like how much, like wine could be, you know, $50, $100, whatever it is. Books, you can get a good book for $20. And so it's actually—

Tommy: trust me, it's actually turned off sex. Yeah, the Generation Intervention needs to happen to me now after this conversation.

Mason: Why?

Tommy: You just want to talk about reading books? I was trying to bring it back.

Josh: I appreciate it. The horoscopes, we talk about that another time. But a lot is happening with the horoscopes. If you, if you enjoy the show—

Mason: mine's sex and aggression.

Josh: What does that mean, your whole horoscope?

Mason: Well, no, it kept coming up recurring.

Tommy: Okay, well, maybe this is a sign. Yeah, Generation Intervention is a sign.

Josh: Aggressively, like, is it?

Mason: Well, Gemma said it comes under passion.

Tommy: It's built up. There's a lot of tension in the young man.

Josh: Do you see yourself? I don't see yourself, you, as a passionate guy.

Mason: Oh, that's nice.

Josh: I don't.

Tommy: No, I know. No, he's being sarcastic that you really hurt his feelings then.

Josh: No, but I don't see yourself like you're passionate about what? You're very like, you don't walk into a room and go, good morning.

Tommy: No, like, I don't know if that means I'm not passionate. There's one thing, the reason he hasn't had sex is because he's so passionate about this fucking show.

Josh: He puts in more effort. I think he could communicate his passion to me more about the show. Anyway, all right, if you enjoyed the show, leave us an Apple Podcast review.

Tommy: And if you've only been listening, please go and watch the video. It's on our website, it's on YouTube, it's on Instagram, it's all over the shop.

Josh: All right, uh, thank you, Sebs, for everything you do. I actually think you are passionate now that I think about it.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, we love you.

Josh: I hope everyone—

Tommy: yeah, we do fall in love. Everyone has fallen in love with you.

Mason: I love you too.

Josh: I love you too.

Tommy: I love you.

Derek: I love you.

Josh: That's nice. All right, now let's—

Tommy: that's my fucking thing. I say that.

Josh: No, and I did. I don't say it much, so it's got real impact. All right, uh, see you tomorrow, guys. Have a good one.

Tommy: See you guys.

Mason: Bye.