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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 560 for the big 516 we've got max price with

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Episode 560

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thanks guys take good nothing good

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yeah what's what's something consistent that you've done for the most amount of time in your life? On the deep end enhance a watch porn gone through

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30 things that are

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most consistent

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I think so I could do everything I've done at least consistency actually. That's what I'm envious about you guys. I was driving going 560 episodes like I've actually started podcasting 10 episodes and when I got to do another one, and just didn't do it,

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but you do heaps of stuff. So there must be something within all of that, that like what is the what is the thread if you

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were to pull up always written, I've always written stuff, comedy. things. I just I love writing. I love having a My head I don't like my head scrambled and I write things down and like

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because I think Tommy and I love the idea of writing but we've never been good at it too busy doing this.

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Have you had how do you actually how do you format your writing? Like how does it actually look? Well with like comedy in the saga sketch comedies what I've been doing for like almost a decade now. It's all Evernote. Evernote is just like, I'll be having bees with mites and then something like will land on something. I go, oh, there's something there. And I used to just go I'll remember that. And everyone knows you don't remember that 10 minutes lady I from a bad thing. So and then I was just like said, Now I might save and I'll just be I'll just withdraw myself from the conversation. Make a note and it would just be like, a little insight. That's it. And then I'll go I don't go to a cafe with a laptop. Yeah,

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somewhere those blankets and then final draft final draft. I'll

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I'll run out a The sketch spine in like a in Evernote just as you know just so messy and then I try and make it all right there and then I just like then final draft is just data entry at the end Yeah. And then that's yeah that's kind of the process but yeah I just I love it that's probably the only thing I do consistently

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and I mean you've been creating though consistently for many years I can I remember Elliot lining I went to primary school with I remember when you shot that video yeah, this Metro that's that's a long time a long time. Like, you've still been chipping away and that's what I think you and I probably added you on Facebook is you just add anyone?

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Yeah, what does what he's talking with? I

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didn't know him. Yeah, I didn't know you hadn't had like, wasn't

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accepted by three Russian girls with three friends and then you

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I've seen you just having a crack you said 10 years of sketch comedy you've been pushing this out into the world and you found a sweet spot it from my perspective it looks like that where you've been able to convert creating sketch comedy into something where you're working with brands who are wanting wanting that product

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Yes, I mean that's that kind of stems from Sports bit so I took a gap year after school and then I was going to do film and TV at Swinburne and all that kind of stuff. And I got a bit of just got lucky with a a job as like a marketing assistant at sports bit and legit getting coffees and all that stuff. Anyway, I'm slowly worked my way up and got you know, within like six months and just yet not getting coffees anymore. And then I was going to leave and go to film in uni and then I realised actually I would end up applying for this job after four years. Sounds like a knock. I'm just gonna stay here. So I'm so glad I did that. And then Yeah, and then I started to see them spend so much money on TV and nothing on social. And then over the course of like six or seven, eight years that I saw it start to swing, where they will be withdrawing money from the TV commercials and investing into social media and they spent so much money flying Mark heads of marketing around the world to see trends and where it's all going. So I was getting like this incredible information about where it's all heading. And I was like, and I'm, I'm kind of writing this off, like I'm writing and directing a lot of it with some really cool people at sports bit. And then I realised, okay, yeah, I quit there about two or three years ago. Now, and it's gonna be tough a little bit because I'm still convincing marketing managers to not not fund the big, you know, half million dollar productions on 32nd TV ads they've done for 20 years and invest in this in social in social content. Where the first comment can be, this is fucking shit.

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A lot of people notice I'm saying, right yeah, you're right. I was I was kind of

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I love it. They don't like the feedback of something like that, but then they don't get any feedback. You

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know, feedback good fit. Yeah, that's kind of the thing with some of the old some of the traditional advertising you just kind of put it out and go. Well, we didn't get many complaints. So I guess that's, that's good. That's a win.

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I feel like you're pretty meta when you I think like 2016 you made the big leap and good profit process productions. How cuz you then like having a kid that would like yeah, timing wise, I feel like that was it was is definitely

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rough because we we moved to Sydney. And as I was, as we were, signed a lease in Sydney, and we were literally moved into this place, fitted sheet on the bed and just like moving In, and my girlfriend guys and vomits in the bathroom and I'm like, Hey, we're just in Sydney. They're already homesick Don't worry about this. And then

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on the show,

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quite skilled.

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And then so we were like, We had nowhere no one in Sydney family wise and found out pregnant and then yeah, it was just like, well, we got to move back to Melbourne because we got some support in Melbourne and nothing in Sydney. And yeah, so we it was going to be Sydney and then possibly America and then it just kind of went Sydney all come back to Melbourne, let's just let's just reassess here with it with a child and then, but in that time, it was also trying to, like, work out a business, you know, you guys are running one. And I was always part of a big corporation. So I was just in the marketing team never having to deal with anything else. And then yeah, then you got to learn how to, you know, accounting software, this and that. And then obviously, we under quoted and a job but couple times where we were in the red big time you know you editing this job editing like this funny content knowing that you're losing money but that's not it's a freebie. That's and that's brutal so yeah, and what I mean by that is I made a lot of mistakes from like, you know, which you meant to do which is great and he's not talking about the

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pregnancy that was

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watching in 20 years

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it's not exactly what happened to me it was the first year I think that I started my business got and me feel pregnant finish finish. To be honest, it was actually the fire the end of our bed that made it all happen is we're

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going away party.

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Like, it's all hard so having the kid thing is forced upon you. Yeah, environment that is just a lot of stress

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that that like six months of first six months I've been telling you that six months is awful. And then it's got heaps of fun. But the first six months is where your life just gets turned upside down and you know, the no sleep, the sleep deprivation and you just then you got to try and meet people and be normal and like walk out the front door like nothing like you know, you haven't had this shit. It's not sleep ever. Yeah.

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So when you're going to combine that with work, I left a small HD monitor 1500 dollar monitor in the park. And was get it was when I had no it was I was so tired. And I just was like, I'll literally I'll put this down for one second. They'll pick it up, and then just walk off. I don't do that shit like it. That's right. That's the first time I've ever lost anything. Yeah. And it was in the midst of just being fucking sleep deprived.

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What about the stress of trying to convince your partner that what you're doing is the right thing.

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I've got a good partner like she backs me into the hills that and she's actually helped after like you know doing the mothering thing which she's doing amazing on she's come on and starting to produce stuff for the business but then she she was like obviously was a stressful days and all that but she she just backed us in and and yeah and I think like she's starting to see the the benefits of it now which you know we're still a long way to go being like I'd love to scale and get better and bigger and all that but um but yeah it's a cheap back me so it wasn't it was never that though was there ever like a should we say she's Yeah, people can be super supportive but the internal pressure I actually think that if it wasn't because of the pregnancy and the and having a having a daughter. I'd be working half half the intensity that I was working. Yeah, as I was just like fuck this has has to work. I've got a dependent And I know that

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well, I think it's like this show the consistency of it, you would think would take away severely from any other productivity, which it does in terms of time. But I think, like for us over the last year, being able to achieve any, you know, make any money, like it, I think if we didn't have the podcast there something that's forcing us to sort of show up each day, a kid does the same thing. It's a forced pressure, it can't just go away. Yeah. And so you do find the best version or you try and sort of dig deep to see how much capacity you do have. So you expand, right? It's like when you take on a first roll with the young marketing assistant, you capacities here, because you can't comprehend a whole heap of shit at that point that you don't know. You don't know what you don't know. You don't know. And so it's sort of like elevates your ceiling. You, Brian. It's like an expansion. Oh, absolutely.

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Let's go at putting it in, you know, your limitations and you start you just start breaking them and you're like, Okay, I can do that. And That's that's like the power of big thinking I guess

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just making cash versus doing creating sort of fulfilling work that's

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how do you guys big on that great question because I I'm I see a lot of people who are you know their houses and the cars and then you have a drink with him and you're like a fucking hate what I do I just go holy shit like that's the opposite of the opposite of what my what I want to do like I get I am I just try and yeah, I've tried to create my own work over the last two years and continue to still have heaps of fun and make sure it's comedy and you know like even some of the acting stuff is not because I want to act it's because our budgets are small someone's got to do it

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and but it's But yeah, I can safely say at the moment I'm loving like what I'm doing and and hopefully and like financial side would be believe we'll catch up, was it a hard pitch? So I guess 2016 the idea what you were doing. So I had a production business, doing sort of corporate video stuff. There's an extra layer of what you're doing, which is you're providing unique creative, they're almost originals that you selling in, right? It's like Yes, yes. For brands, did you find that harder at the start or easier in regards to finding clients? I actually thought it was

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a point of difference, which therefore meant that it was easier because you know, I did think of one point that you know, what, corporate like the videos in my back there's, there's a lot of people that say we do it all and we do that and this and I was like, Ah, you know, why don't we and it was one of those, you know, guy vs kind of people that will like odd you know, if you just stick to you, you know, if you sell what is it that there's a if there's two restaurants on each side of the road, once has a menu with 150 things on it. Another one? I'm just cells ravioli, like you're more likely to go. I reckon that do that. That pretty good. You had that hundred and 50 things pretty average sounds like that's for me that was the comedy I was like let's do comedy and just bar everything else say no to everything else like that people

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that don't like Ravi only using that analogy so I'm going to say there's a bunch of companies that are like they're just getting into the business of doing video. Yeah, their marketing manager is like it like how do you sell in the comedy thing? Or do you need prime to people that are ready to invest in that

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it's a mixture of two I reckon there's there's brands that just have that fit comedy. And sports bit have like, that's their, that's their brand position to be like entertaining and funny or not. And the other side for brands that aren't traditionally funny is to say that for social content, you're more likely to have some success with comedy content. Not you know, just a the CEO on a you know, in the background. saying this is a good company you know like you no one's gonna watch that shit. But if you can somehow I still gotta have like some kind of brand awareness that's what we try and that's what we write in scripts and trying to make it not too in your face so people actually watch it but um but yeah, I I just think some brands of soda and then some brands you just have to say do you want the content to be seen organically or is it just going to fall through and I can either it's comedy something incredibly informative you cats obviously cats videos and Yeah, something like a big slum

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early days Did you ever actually just do a straight corporate video? Yes.

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Yeah the guy hated it. I hated it. Because just because you you mocking up boring. It's fine. Well, you're you're in a room with no one's having fun. The person on camera is just hates it cameraman to say And even the client, you know, just got done.

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Really? Did it felt like that? So I was like, Okay, let's let's, let's borrow this stuff.

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Was it a bit of a pivotal moment? Like it always did it feel that clear? I actually don't i don't think it was that clear until

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Yeah, no, I actually don't think it was I just think it progressed into, we started to get approached, saying, yeah, it turned into hey, these guys do comedy. So we attracted people that wanted comedy quite quickly. So yeah, I wasn't able to like, way up the boring videos and the fun stuff. As much as I thankfully didn't need to.

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Yeah, it's like it's such a love the time because it's, if you were doing something like this 20 years ago, 30 years ago, it becomes a comedy company or serving the networks where that's the only real avenue for the content, but now It's like brands, you know, this glass company could be willing to drop 10 grand on some kind of content that the show now can cater. So it's like, it's forever opening up these new doors like this probably wasn't accessible 1510 years ago, you

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know, even like, it's still becoming successful. Like, you know, that's, that's the half half the battle for me is like, I never wanted to be a salesman. But it is a lot of that when you walk in, you walk into a marketing meeting with a new client who's, you know, a bit older and done, done traditional media forever, and then they're scared. They're just sceptical, and then you've got to try and sell the car. I mean, it's not as though it's kind of it's a great card, the social world, but it's also, you know, selling it to someone who, who has never seen one before. So yeah, so that's been that's, I mean, I'm, I'm never going to be a fan of doing that. But uh, but it's necessary because then I guess,

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if we were all hired by you priceless productions and you, you're creating a sales team, Tommy and I had to go out and sell what you offer. What would you be saying to us to empower us to, you know, connect with clients? Or that's good?

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Maybe, you know, pose the question to everyone in the room, how many TVs are plugged into the wall with the antenna? Because a lot of them aren't anymore. Like, you know, there's a lot of people that just don't mind isn't. Yeah, the sort of problem there. So, you identifying that the first the biggest barrier is selling in even the distribution. Exactly. So when when a lot of brands get their, their budgets for the marketing budget, they'll they'll have people knocking on the door who have knocked on that door every year for effort. Whenever they started it. They just

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walk in they're not just Hey, Jeff.

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Jeff, we're doing that same thing. Again. It's And I'm just trying to break the break that Mary of it and going like, Hey, why don't we take some of that, you know, you can still do advertise on this and you know, still would have been put an ad in a newspaper or whatever. But why don't you actually play with in this space now because I know you're getting told you have to and you should you and I know it's a nervous time for you know for to make a bit of a switch and

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and yeah, so that's, you know that's the convincing that's all it is just trying to convince them of that. And so if it's they've got like a $2 million budget from a marketing spin perspective. Yep. How do you communicate what they should be spending from a content because obviously there's also the nuance of like, okay, we want to do some paid stuff around this. So there's going to be cash that they spend on it that isn't even going to see you it's going to go straight to face a server. Yeah, yeah, for

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sure. Well, it's, it's a depends on it depends on each and every one. Whether or not they, they want to match their budget with the spin behind it match the production budget with the spin behind it, or go smaller, or at least at least with Facebook. You can target you like the the incredible ability of targeting the, the person you want, as opposed to just like, you know, radio or just you know, throwing in the, you know, like you just put it out and hope the person who the demographic you're selling that product to is listening at the right time, whereas Facebook, you can put some money behind it and find out like, hey, like drinking out of short water glasses, tables, Well, turns up in your face. It's a it's, it's, it's a Palak I'm quite behind it. And I very much believe in it. So that helps. And yes, I just I just think that if you are ever selling a product and sorry I digress for a second. The other thing would be when you do your big TV campaigns. Do think there's a salute, you know, it legitimises brands, when you seen on TV are their real thing. And what they sometimes do is they get that big, that 32nd hero piece, and then they just put it online and they wonder what sucks? Yeah. And all I'm trying to say as well, you know, give them a little bit less, give us a bit. And that same brief that you're giving them to do the 32nd creative. Give us a minute and a half to do something that will work more on social because it's designed for social and that's and that's starting to be received a bit more but yeah,

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it's still still battle daily with sports, but you obviously working internal it seems like you do a good job of direct to client sort of stuff. How does agencies and middlemen fit into what you do? Hasn't it hasn't not for any other reason than

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just ever just been going? Cuz I know. I know. They'll just take a chunk Yeah. Hit. I know you. I know, though, are we we've done one thing before and it didn't work. And we bypassed them and went straight to a client and they loved it. And it was the same pitch. Yeah. So what they did is they said, Hey, can you send us some ideas for these guys? And we sent it to the agency, and they said, I don't think I liked them. And we're like, and then it all fell through six months later, I hit up the guy who owns the business, and I was, you know, when pitch the same ideas, he loved every one of them, we've made two and we're gonna make the third. So I was like,

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what's the learning their agencies are getting in the way? Well, what are the what are the what's the roles? Why do you think it's not succeeding?

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Well, the their agencies? Well, we're an agency really, like if you break it down where we are an agency just design for social at the moment,

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but what's the difference? Because there feels like there is a difference, potentially. So you've got production companies. Yeah. And then you've got agencies, was it a specific Have you made a specific choice of where going on To we want to be the agency. I had

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it. I don't know why, I guess we know we're at sports, but we worked with a very big agency and I really didn't, I didn't like it. And I didn't like the people in there. I didn't like the culture, the five, it felt very wonky. So I was always been like very anti agency. Yeah,

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definitely. You're not. I think you hit the nail on the head, there is a vibe to agency, big agency model.

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Potentially, especially on the end of being a creator. You can see how little they're actually putting into creative or thinking, yeah, I'm sure across the line, and then how much of the shit is based on our ability to execute but you think about how many things that they don't actually know that you're processing that is very true. And I also think the creative is damaged because of the amount of hands it goes through. And it you know, a good idea just gets diluted Down to no one now likes it because everyone's put their fingers on and like modelled it and the whole creatives become blurred and shit. And then the font No one likes the final product and so I guess that's just the benefit of being small. But you know, is that going to be damaged if you go big? I don't know. I haven't haven't given that too much thought just yet

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what I'm thinking about Gary Vaynerchuk he's agency huge main media. I don't know any content that that's done. Like you think I only know he's content stuff. Yeah, I've seen a Super Bowl thing that I was like, I just watched I was like, that's just made by a production company. That looks kind of cool.

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The different business models aren't they like definitely.

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Where does where do you see what you're doing? Like if you look at say, traditional older businesses, so like you say radio karate. Yeah. Hamish and Andy. Yep. You know, have done then you've got the corporate style production. Yes. Sort of your visual domains of the world that have 50 employees and pumping out heaps of content, then where do you fit in the original versus the corporate? It's a it's a great question. Because the other thing is I, you know, when we are doing, we are I'm co writing with Troy Kinney and co directing with him a sketch show on Channel 10, which is traditional media, and they've been great, I really, really enjoy that doing everything with that network and the production company we're working with, and yet, I'm kind of like being a hypocrite on both sides. But I just, I would love to grow, to do bigger and bigger and better things. I just know those budgets are going to swing more. But I think that the ability to do to do some do some original content for streaming platforms is just going to be ever growing as well. And, you know, the great thing with these little sketches and that small content is it's really good testing ground for The bigger idea that you can kind of go, Oh, that was that word. And that was cool. And people, it was really well received, you get like to test content on audiences, which are Facebook, and if it goes quiet, you know, viral or in a lot of engagement, you go, Well, we should maybe build on that. And then you know, so I'd like to do the second season of Kinney and then I don't know, maybe work on something longer form or yet, I'd love to be able to do a large project and then like, fill it with these kind of smaller stuff that I've been doing. But at the moment, it's just working my butt off and seeing what happens and making sure it just remains fun, which it is at the moment.

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When you're writing a sketch. Like, when do you know that you've landed on an idea? That's funny?

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Well, that will work. I think we it's there's nothing worse than having Yeah, like a client that just goes chest. Just go for it. Right? You know, because it just we have no bounce. Is it all just when it becomes too open? What happens in those moments? When you go open? What do you do we actually go Do you have any javonni decks or PDF or PDFs or stuff with just like you know customer just stats Yes Give us something give us demographic give us age groups give us all that then we can start piecing together what what will be the content that will resonate with that person? And then we can now now now we can play in this plane of space. And then yeah, whether or not the creative sessions with like the moment me and Luke good all I don't know if you know him from Google and Galaga he does his little separate comedy group, but me and him are both creatives on process. And then with Kenny it's yet Kenny myself. But yeah, it's with with Kenny the kenisha. We're all about being relatable and playing in that reliable space. And I've seen other sketch shows do pilots so Season, and they don't really have, they don't really have the thing that they want to convey to people or perspective or point of view. Whereas we're very clear with Kenny that it's like, you know, we want to be just salt really, really relatable and resonate in relationships and mates and at home and at work. And once we once we put that in concrete ideas, that kind of easy, because yeah, you can only shoot so far and you will get something. Um,

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do you find that brands are okay with being self deprecating? I think they're getting better and better.

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Yeah, I mean, I know a lot of people because i think i think it actually went way the other way few years ago, that they've, they've come back, like everyone got really soft and went on, you know, and everyone, straight back everything for like three or four years and then I've seen we're getting people going, you know, we want to have some fun with it. And yeah, I think it's coming back which is

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which is great. How much you thinking about like key messages? So like, say you did the, the CO content words like the the joke is you're asking about numbers or whatever. And people are saying six and four and doing all that sort of thing. What's the, the first thought on a joke like that is it we want people to be watching this everywhere, including at work? I

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wish I thought about it as much.

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But for something like something like that, you know, there was a few things I want to they wanted to convey that you can watch it on multiple devices. And then you can you can just scroll back and you can Yeah, you can watch it anywhere and make sure it says so. straightaway. We're like, Okay, cool. How can we how can we show multiple devices with a few people, you know, we can watch the anywhere work meeting and then the comedy bit of the boss, not understanding that he's not a part of the conversation. They're part of this whole kind of like, yeah, it's hard to really, like go step by step on how that all how that how our brains thought of all that, but it's just kind of, yeah, that's why a good brief helps helps a lot because we can, yeah, we can really break it down. And then by the end, it's actually just more like a jigsaw puzzle than being really creative.

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Well, yeah, having constraints and understanding where you can push it to Yeah, and then being creative with the constraints. For sure.

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Sure. What about at clients being on set with this type of thing?

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Don't mind it, don't mind at all. That's the good, I guess the good thing at the moment, which is not like as in the budgets are quite small, so so they haven't got their, you know, Ville video village where they sit under a tent and get fed berries all day, and then watch a monitor and go, you know, do that again and then showed his bit crinkled the crease out, it's like, they have to stand over our shoulders and look at the monitors. We're looking at and They don't get seats and stuff. So so so you know, we obviously we we look after more take their direction will take their notes we'll we'll do what we can but but because budgets are quite small and you know usually we can only do a day shoot and that's you know only eight or 10 hours and we got to get it done so we have we kind of make sure that the scripts are quite in this spot before we get on set because they can't they kind of have to be we can't really sit there and ad lib for two hours and yeah, yeah,

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what's it What's a brand that you think is as much what brand Do you think it's more so you go to the obvious brands that are spending money on this kind of stuff, versus the the out of left field brands Is there any that you're speaking with it or like it's an odd it's an odd coupling, but it probably will work for them. sketch comedy your

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there was we did have a client who was Who was didn't money? They did small business loans. And and that like when we first saw everything we were like oh this is everything is so straight and and yeah it was it was more just like a global company as well so they were they were everything had to go through this New York office and make sure it was all so I was I was really confused by why we were approached and I'm still confused whether or not we were just right place right time or, or they actually wanted to do comedy stuff but what I realised is the the marketing manager I think was just looking for an outlet because I think everything that everything that they've done had been so like you know, I just imagined a marketing manager for a straight down the line brand would just see like, approved just boring thing after boring thing and just almost was like just let's do something fun for a little you know, even though it's a small part of our strategy. So that That's kind of been cool. Yeah. But um, but usually when we've gone to approach brands, it's, it's, we've seen something before or we've got a feel that they that would be inclined to be receptive to humour. So we've so we've targeted them. So which is, which is also great because it doesn't mean we're targeting everyone. We're targeting specific friends.

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Yeah. I mean, a lot of people start out doing sketches or copying sketches. You do that anymore. Yeah, all of the adventures I would always do parodies of that on the panel. Amazing. That was my first one. I think with cameras so accessible now. There's probably more younger kids doing sketches that were doing tic tocs now, I guess. Yeah. That's

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now I now understand I'm old now.

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I saw the tick tock thing come along and I and I just went on. I feel like learning that one. I'm sure I'll get around to that some

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Gary Vee because I feel like sometimes we create these connections around like a Instagrams big and there was a bunch of people that said that Instagram wasn't big I feel like that's the reason and what's going on Tick Tock. Yeah, I don't know if it's the same fucking thing, right? It's almost like the you know, this meal that turned out to be a good one. So do you want to eat this bag of shit could be good.

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actually say talks going to be the biggest thing ever. And then a second lerigot tickets gonna be shitting I was going to use it. And then 10 years, just I'll just grab one of those clippings. Yeah, exactly. From this video and just be like I told you,

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but yeah, yeah, I mean, Gary loves getting into that. But now I think the tick tock one's interesting because I never think if you look at the core of what the product was, Instagram was never about like, dumb shit, like doing dumb videos and all that. So I think like yeah, would or the adult if they if they say that Tick Tock is going to age up. Now they say like God's going to get they wanted to address it. I just You it will spread like Instagram is it like Fleetwood Mac like songs instead? What does is it actually look like? A job Tick Tock? Was that just rants

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Yeah, what do you do library people? Maybe?

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I mean some random shit like something I've become. Yeah, I spent a lot of time 30 minutes now watching tattoo removal laser video is so satisfying. Yeah, I saw one guy with like, he put like a What do you call it like a eye lens or contact lens but it's like us it's solid. So it like shields it and then he puts goggles on and then that he was doing like, right near the eyeline on the lip but it was this is the shivers so businesses like that. Who can tap into something where there's you know, you're watching something happened to process or pool being filled. Or pool changing colour I've watched that shit

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Hello just watching I think just to just go down the conversation wormhole like like a rabbit hole on YouTube. I love watching

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people that are colorblind putting colorblind glasses

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I fucking cry

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sevens colorblind.

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I really but not enough

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make a difference yeah

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get the gloss yeah

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yeah I'll come in and cry

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What about you baby hearing for first time I

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love that shit

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What about brands that come to you and say Hi Max we want to we love everything you do want to do that

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the colorblind

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we want it to be on Tick Tock so how how much do you do need to use your own filters versus being like fuck it they're paying let's just go with it. Well, I have already understood that like because I do look at stats and of the of like the growth of that

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of that platform and it's it is kind of scary how quick it's growing. I did go on a family family holiday with a couple other families and one of the good family friends has a 11 year old girl and with an iPad and it was just the whole time I was like, filming Tick Tock for just like, she just drove me to I've had to go I'm gonna come around the corner and do this. And then so I just had to so and I just know that that's that's 111 year old girl and then it would be like just hundreds of hundreds of millions of the same kind of girl and God and boy just making you're making all these tech talks. So it's it you know, I and she loved it. She was like so so passionate about it. And I was like, Okay, okay, this is the thing. This isn't Yeah, this so I I know I need to keep up up to speed with all the stuff I have gotten on my phone and I've left the notifications on and they send you

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the Apple Watch actually show You like a thumbnail oh and they're always fucking weed Tick Tock see end up just with sort of yeah retains or whatever my

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girlfriend Who's that yeah it's on Tick Tock sorry

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even things seem like I don't know if I have one now but you know my my boyfriend told me something this and it's just like it looks it looks just dodgy from Tick Tock

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what a weed time Mr. nine seven how many people are on 500 million monthly active users? Like a lot of people it's a lot. Oh wow.

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And what's what's like Instagram

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monthly user? So 500 million? Well I think they're probably a billion

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Yeah, billion monthly active users. Yeah, so the halfway halfway there, and they are much newer.

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And they're on the rise. Yeah. So um, yeah, I mean, I can like this almost sound controversial, but if I wasn't in this game, I'd probably deactivate all my accounts. Sure, I'll do the same

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social media got off

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deactivated a few times, you know, just like six months since and just

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what we doing in the six months

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I was in hiding for reasons I can't disclose it now I, I just, you know, like, I like to be on the creative side not by consuming I am sometimes I just, I'll just have like a bit of a brain snap almost like, fucking don't get and that's just like, close everything down and get back into like, Yeah, what I want to do rather than just sitting there, you know, scrolling for the hundredth time. Yeah,

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I mean, I struggle with it. I retired from social media was a good idea. That was six months. Right? But, and it was the plan was forever. Yeah. It was my first time. This is a recovery. It's hard, isn't it? I go the other way that like now, my thing at the moment is unlike when I came back, one of my really posting things A post. Yes more stuff but I feel like I'm just entering into the same cycle for sure.

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For sure. Yeah, it's it's that's like I'd almost love just someone like if I could do a this year. I heard about you

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we never did like that I agreed with you when you hear people go on about it and then and then they you know when you get communication from them you're like, this is not you. This is someone from Philippines.

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You know, I don't know anyone ghosts Who do you know personally? You see why it's always friend of those guys. Yeah, sure.

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Because I remember last year where there was a fake thing about a terrorist terrorist attack in chess and a winner and someone had told me is like, Oh yeah, friend was picking up a wallet and said don't go to chance and this time, and then someone else said the exact same thing and then so it turns out that this fucking rumour had just started in like a massive way.

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No one knew the person, the person every That it was fake. And so it all spread and so

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but then you have to speak to the person who like is there there's always the person who it's their friend so who the fuck it like what and it always turns out like I know I was just like like they just you just exaggerate a tiny bit and it gives you enough confidence so I was texting people don't don't get a chance to Archie at I said I am part of the problem was like he's already mine

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so yeah the visual system thing so but do you think having we got the terrorism from a vertical

to show you you have to think that there's a strong enough case against around staying on social media yes just getting off

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yeah I just think that um you know just because a lot of the social contents pop culture and things that have happened you know like if you if you can create Create really good content that's really reactive and relevant to trends. That can be powerful for brands. And so so yeah, so I kind of you are in reluctant Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I co that's a thing now and then we've been then we build off that and try and turn it into something good. But at the same time, I, I just think I could, you know, everyone get a lot more done.

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But I'm always surprised that like, I think about it, like I knew about all of like, your transition into, you know, doing pricelist full time, and that never would have happened if social media wasn't around. Like you described. You mentioned you made the Galligan I thought, yeah. Yeah, the the podcast like the orange logo. Remember, I listened to all of those. Yeah, I remember. What was your get get shit done. Yeah, that's how he listened to all like, it's funny how people are like consuming content from the outside and you never hear from the

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should still headlines. Its headline media so you know what if you just sort of

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been not even headlines if you're doing a fucking podcast if someone's listening for 40 like I reckon there's probably a bunch of shit that I heard then which is sort of then educated me about the questions around like, show the transition and how hard it was an awesome thing. I don't know how the fuck I know that

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I did. I think I'd love to, if you could like have a setting on Facebook where you could just be the creator and then not and not consume anything. Then I would just totally just press the button and upload things and put things out there. I just, I just don't I just don't like consuming a lot. Which, which means I'm probably just gonna get real grumpy and right wing when I'm like

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and just be full of conspiracy. Do you enjoy

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what do you enjoy consuming? And what platform where is it on?

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I I love

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you. Yeah, I just love net. I love Netflix. I think this stuff that they're putting out is is really great they they understand what what I'm what gets people and they've you know they've there they would do a lot of analytics on on like you know crime and making a murderer and then you know six months later x four of them come out and you know so i sock it I love I love watching that stuff it doing stuff on YouTube now two clicks is not a joke or what it I

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yeah whatever that that again is an Instagram account to yeah but the the YouTube stuffs really interesting because they've got Tom PAPR and fortune or whatever like they've

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been originals on that on YouTube which is really cool. That's cool. Yeah, I don't Yeah, I just Spotify listen a lot of music. I love listening to sleep playlist. I sleep with

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music.

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There's a whole category of just sleep music thunderstorms

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Ilana storms

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and then zipper peaceful piano stuff. What piano from that shit. Peaceful piano.

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I just love it.

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I just got sent my like wrap up for 2019 your top songs The first one is I like to move it move it the Madagascar Escape to Africa soundtrack. Me the second song. Hans Zimmer think it's for me. It's from the Madagascar soundtrack. Oh that's great. This third song It's post Milan good are you bad he made

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my son first of all in my mind like my if I go whatever you know I've been listening to recently I put on shuffle be like black keys into this like really slow thing on like a on a violin. His algorithm is fucked. I need to reset.

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But yeah, I'd already read books I like

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I'd never used to read I used to hate it. And then I now love it. How did you fall in love with writing? Just listening to people that I like and respect saying it was cool. Yeah and then I try and then and then I was like okay I might give this ago and then I your eyes get tired yeah so I reckon is perfect before bed I read for like half an hour and then I just yeah it's like and then you

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know sleep the land like then I'll have my sleep music started already really good half an hour that in that amount brushes are you writing in your bedroom

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well this is getting quite personal

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next to a bit yeah yeah Mrs hates it

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that the music What is he

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she gets around that yeah we did

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I just did a

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commentary on on as I read already writing at the moment I she said I've got

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this the I'm reading mike tyson biography autobiography. It is epic. I I actually didn't think I'd like it at all and I cannot stop reading it. He lived the craziest. He's living the craziest life Yeah, he's a he's a he's a beast of a man. So I don't know because that sometimes I read like comedy, you know, books on becoming better at writing and business books and all that kind of stuff and then sometimes you're like, shit I just need to escape yeah into something else and then this is great to read cuz he's, he's fucked up a lot.

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So I feel ever use him as an excuse like if something happens you could say at least at least I'm not

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late when you have a tiger or when you leave a nightclub with a few girls and go buy a few cars. Yeah, and then

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he's describing Mr. 97 Los Angeles.

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Say and that's and that's all I really think I consume and the Wiggles. Yeah, fucking shitloads of wiggles now without one and a half year old, amazing.

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It's actually it's a lot, a lot less than I used to watch before.

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It's full on how kids is just saw obsessed with screens

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yeah it's crazy but it's it's hard to it's hard to find it unless you have like you have like a magic or like a ranch with just like things for them to do exactly we live in the modern day of like a house or an

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apartment you live in a ranch like what's described as like

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modern right you know things to do like a run around and get like

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we had something big way they they could just go off and and entertain themselves but when you when you're living in this day and age, it's it's kind of this. There's so much you can do before it's like okay, wiggles and Netflix so you want a house or an apartment house in Camberwell The moment

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I mean more space for char they love it around.

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That's where my favourite Cafe is, isn't it? heritage wall. I don't know. Really I go there every Sunday. Yeah, yeah,

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it's just his favourite doesn't mean it's the best.

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It's really good. I do like smoked eggplant.

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Yeah, look good.

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Yeah, really good smash that bow as well with some pomegranates and

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that sort of thing might get around

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2020 what are you looking forward to?

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I love I love the skinny show I love working with Troy in the end. And this little family we've kind of put together of talented humans and I think we're doing

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it we're talking about your actual family then the way you just put it together. Little collab

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that the acting, the acting and the crew and all that that's it's um, you know, I think we're doing 15 days shooting or something like that. And that's all we end up we always end up around likes and killed her and I saw you shooting last season in St. Kilda, I was this walking path. And we were all across the road like

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yeah, constraint bakley straight lot of

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Port Melbourne. I feel like I've always saying like When Kenny does us to like point, like, look over there or whatever, it's near the sort of spirit of tazzy man, yeah,

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we're down that way our production offices are important. And so that's so much fun. And it just feels like you know, you get thrown in together for 15 days and 6am tools, you know, six at night and you're shoulder to shoulder. And then you know, just feel so good when you when you've wrapped shooting. So I'm looking forward to that, which is kind of has I have to like pause on the process stuff for two months, which is a little bit painful. And that's what I'm trying to work out how to make sure that still runs smoothly while I'm away. And then, and then yeah, I would love to just do more longer form stuff. So longer form TV. And then yet I do enjoy cracking brace for brands and if we can move into bigger space, as well, I do think Yeah, we're in the right direction and just make sure we're still having a lot of fun. What about you guys? What's 2020

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We're closing

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liquidation we're ending on Fox. This priceless want to buy us.

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This is absolutely not 2020 Yeah. I think it's I haven't even stopped to think about this year, to be honest. I think we're just getting through the year taking a little bit of time off while the show goes out pre recording. So a week, but yeah, I haven't. I mean, it's just we've hit the milestones, but it's hard when you're sort of flying to really

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this space is amazing. And like you could you could get you can do a lot of stuff here. Really awesome. Yeah,

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I think we're trying to like we're working on over the break. I'm working on the website and trying to work out because our big media company website does it horrendous job. It was literally, we, Tommy and I did it a year ago, when we were in Los Angeles at a Starbucks just pumping out just whatever we could just so it looked like we had a business. And that's good. So but we did that, but then it has an exit like it's one of those things where it's like yeah, It's not going to last we'll get back to it and then you forget Yeah. And then

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you can make quite a bit of money not having that dialled in. And so that's where it does lose the attention based on it like not being the Michael break.

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That's what this this is an interesting question like, do you reckon you businesses need websites now to to get new business? If

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he commerce stuff? Well, I think that you need to be, you need to be good at externalising what you do. And so, where we have struggled this year, especially the second half of the year, is the daily talk show has done so well in regards to taking over our brand and what we're about and that the companies that would normally come to us for more that sort of traditional online, like a bread and butter has been the short form tacos for brands. So it's like, we want to do a hero video, explaining Our origin story or who we are, that's the stuff that we do little slight misalignment at the moment with the daily talk show. And that. And so I think that it is definitely important to make it very clear and obvious as to what it is that you can help people with. I think that what makes what you do so great is like, what works so well is that your original content is an extension of the client stuff. So all the client stuff is the extension of the original stuff. So the, if I watch a kayo, integrated piece that you make, are you an original piece for them? It's not too dissimilar to something that you would see on Kinney or anything else that you've done? Yes. And so you're able to, and a lot of video professionals can use the product that they have as the communicator, and that negates the need for a website,

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but I think we always so we always look To the nice of someone who you know so the advice is getting into business or get creative wanting to create an audience. Find the thing that everybody else wants fishing, talk about fishing. There's already a bunch of people who like fishing. But so you could I could look over to there from here or even our style of business looking to yours and thinking it would be much easier if I just had the ravioli without going back to the original metaphor konnikova if we had if we only could sell ravioli it'd be so much simpler. Is it

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comfortable with saying the word?

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Clearly not they are you okay selling ravioli? Is it easier to you know?

We've had a struggle communicating what we do, because we've got a few things happening. We're trying to find our footing. We think maybe it would be easier if you just had one thing to offer as the exclusive thing you do.

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Well you do what you do but you do brand behind the door behind the door

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white label white label

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business why

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selling on the ravioli is it all it's cracked up to be like going like that those people over there as you know selling a few things maybe we could do that

54:33
I it's kind of forgot that it's a trust me like most like especially when I first started it would be so much easier to do. Like I couldn't own two houses if I did a wedding video as well. But fuck that

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ravioli I could just yeah, I could I could do that. I feel like that's a very common. I feel like that's a slight cliche that will use which is like, man if I was happy doing wash sucking. Yeah, I'd be so rich it's so true. I know

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I'm sure Troy's would be familiar. He says his brothers and accountant. He's got a great little family they they're great humans. And he's he's lovely happy isn't a happy account with a happy family and everything's good and Troy and myself life fucking awesome. That'd be great. Yeah, it was just if that was it, you know, accounting job, got my family got the house. That's it, but we just it's built to want like, you know, individuals that have built up need more

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you look at like, I mean, we're just looking from the external external from

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I'm sure she's been cooking the books you

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know, the

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this cause anything

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mattacks or 10?

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Yeah, from Yeah, I guess that external so from like, my perspective anyway, it's like 2016 very hard year for you, you have the this is a completely external view point, the channel 10 thing, really good. When gives you a bit of financial stability, an injection of cash every year or however long it's happening. Yeah. And then you can freeze up a little bit of time that you can then re prioritise the types of priceless productions you're taking on. So you can go to those types of things. Yep. I mean, the I guess it's just interesting the external perspective that you know, that the Kenny stuff was has been just incredible. Yeah, from like, the just to financially keep myself able to not make an irrational decision like doing wedding videos or, or corporate videos or starting a pasta shop.

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Uh, so yeah, so I'm able to kind of like, have a bit of insurance, just to just to keep keep fighting, what I'm what I'm trying to do and what I'm fighting for. And then yeah, so I'm very thankful thankful for that, but I'm never gonna, I don't think I'm ever gonna get bored of doing comedy, regardless of what platform it's on. So if I just stick to my guns on that front, like we had a shoot yesterday and day before, and, you know, we're just laughing all day, people at the end of the day saying I had so much fun and it's just, it's nice to be able to create that environment and with with good people around you and

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yeah, that if I can do that all the time out of like, you know, trying to teach you five days I can do that like 100 days a year we awesome. That's it, that's it. This stage you have the internal stresses, like, for instance, like if you look at the contrast between where you were and where you are now, I feel like that'd be a significant difference, but to the stresses Remain similar.

58:02
They're there, they get it. Like I'm straight. I'm stressing all this. I think that's maybe partly maturity and then also partly experience and knowing that like, yeah, it's not the end of the world. We had a actually, the shoe we had yesterday for it was for a brand called lobby underwear. Happy to say it because they're legends and you have

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a coupon code that people can use now. I need to set that up. It's max price.

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Yeah, to see what happens.

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invalid.

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I had they had product from sunshot. So brand new product that now that they haven't even seen yet that for Australia Day in February next year. They had samples come from China, land in Sunshine Coast, and we had a shoot yesterday and they had a Korea taken from Sunshine Coast overnight and they had to be in our door by I am in the morning, they said someone will arrive throughout the night and you have to sign for it. So we may have a partner asleep like going out the door the door and they didn't turn up in the morning. And then we got in the car to go to set with no product to shoot. And so we had 15 people and we were just going to be like, okay, we're gonna have to me and Luke, we're gonna look good, or we're gonna go into another room and rewrite the whole script to just how can we get to do it without the product. And as we were driving halfway, we get a call from the courier saying it's here. We booked an Uber to and then we caught up the Uber driver said hey, might you're not actually gonna take anyone with you know, we're just gonna put this guy's gonna put a box in your car. So I had to create away to Uber driver came, he put it in, and then it turned up. Now if I was doing that two years ago, I would be pulling hair out and just like in I don't get hot but probably have hives. What's the difference? I just I just started I think problem solving and being able to like Okay, it's not the end of the world. You know, you're not gonna you're not gonna die, you're not gonna, nothing's bad's gonna happen end at home and you're gonna, you know, they're going to piss some people off, but it's not the end of the world. But also the ability to with, with some experiencing in writing and filmmaking and filmmaking is you know, as you know, it's all just about problem solving. It's like, Okay, well, you know, I just thought more rational and, and yeah, we, we were going to be fine, as opposed to two years ago, where it was just like, well, what's the point? And I would have probably, yeah, got another job.

1:00:34
How do people know that you're stressed on set, so you're 13 days into a 15 day shoot, oh, they'll, they'll feel it.

1:00:44
We,

1:00:46
because I'm kind of directing most things or co directing. Like I understand the importance of a good vibe on set, especially for comedy especially to allow crew and cast to feel comfortable and, and so I'll make sure I have never to never too stressed. I'm pretty happy for for you guys to ask

1:01:09
me. I overcompensate potentially like sometimes if I'm having a shit day outside in 97 bring it let's bring it into get excited actually asked for I texted him a few weeks ago and asked if he could play the song. What is it? What is it called? It's the one I feel the earth move under my feet. I wanted to arrive to the office with that song playing which is like noxious. And but I messaged him and I came in and there was some fucking like passenger was flying this guy. He hadn't looked at his phone.

1:01:46
He doesn't work with it.

1:01:50
So how do you bring the vibe? What do you do you have any tricks? Smile? I think it's just making sure what

1:01:55
yeah, it's like, yeah, just instilling calm. Confidence in a crew and cast that like, that was a great, that's a great idea to shoot from here. That's a great time. That's a great way you're doing that. Even if it's not even even if it's like, you just do some sandwich stuff. Yeah, that was good. Could do less of that on the next one. But otherwise it was it was bloody great. But yeah, you know, and obviously, you get the idiots that you work with, and you work with once and then

1:02:28
you work with them once and then you don't you just don't give them another call. Yeah, to get the get.

1:02:37
Now, I don't know I definitely don't try and think of it like with it. Like mathematically or just like a with a system. I just kind of very observing on set. And if I if I if I start to understand that that person doesn't like that person, I kind of make sure immediate it's just mediating relationships, especially when you're doing like a 15 or 20 day shoot. Something you just have to make sure Morales high, but you but you keep morale high by nipping things in the bud when when they first start. And, and in keeping it all relatively good not to say that there's still times where multiple things go wrong and you're running an hour behind and something hasn't been set up right or this, that some that it just does become stressful because there's so many people in you know, working on their job at the same time and

1:03:32
it's hard to train for high pressure situations. Yes, it's it's high pressure into sort of manufacturer that is a very healthy

1:03:40
Absolutely. And I think that's what has been really great with doing these. These really small shoots for a while that it's not overwhelming to go into a like a shoot with 20 to 30 people, crew and cast. Yeah, you've done like the just, you know, like with ellone it was just me and him and then we haven't tried and Then that and then it just kind of expanded now so it wasn't like I went out of film school and went into like a 30 people, crew and cast shoot, I would have just shut myself It would have been too much.

1:04:13
I've mentioned kayo a couple of times. Yeah, I actually, I had a an idea for a segment that I wanted to do on this show. I never actually told Tommy about it. This is it. I have for the big five, six hour episode. So I don't know much about sport yet. And I would like to get better at sport like knowing sport, works, all that sort of thing. Yep. So this was this was a pitch ever got a little asting music thing that we don't yet but we will. So I'll read you the email. So I went on LinkedIn, and I found someone named Asher, who works at Keio national. Did you deal with a marketing manager I think anyway,

1:04:58
the wrong contact if this is

1:05:01
Hi. So you've written it. So I wrote an email I sent a couple because I you know how I think we heard from someone where they're like you have to send three emails before you get response just in a row in a minute. So this is why I said this is on a Sunday 17th of November. Sorry, I think you just No, no, I sent this because I was trying to make it happen. I was producing segments and Yeah. Hi, Ash. I'm the co host and producer of The Daily talk show the daily talk show.com. We're a Melbourne based seven day a week podcast and video show. Recently, we celebrated 500 episodes of the show. I'm looking at doing a story on the show where I surprise my co host Tommy with a sports segment on the show hosted by me. We spoken a bunch on the show about my desire to get into sport. So I think it would be a bit of fun. talked about it on our chat with Andy late recently, just a little bit of leverage al would you be out for providing an ongoing subscription of Taiyo for me to use. In return, I'll mentioned kayo and my segment Which will be fun. We're currently getting around 55,000 audio downloads a month and over 70% of our audience are Ozzy's. Hope you doing Nice play on and let's get ready to rumble hashtag sports. That's where you last.

1:06:15
That's not that's not a catch cry.

1:06:18
It was a sports I felt the moment the

1:06:25
$15 subscription. That's why I thought because I did the value value value. Yeah.

1:06:32
I was like she's, she's giving you that subscription.

1:06:36
Really? If she doesn't give it to you, and so

1:06:38
I followed up obviously. Hi, Asha. Happy Friday. I wanted to create some urgency. So I know we haven't done the segment. Yeah, you

1:06:44
haven't mentioned that. We got max price. No, no.

1:06:49
relationships. No, no. Sorry. I want to follow up so just said no, I just wanted to um, yeah, I wanted to keep it short, but I was like, I need to create level of urgency. Hi assha Happy Friday just following up see if you're interested in partnering with this segment looking at launching it on Monday, two minute show highlights package to give you a better sense of the show. I just require a one year subscription of kayo in exchange for K I mentioned every time I do my sports segment cheese nothing I didn't even know I was gonna write play on but I didn't I

1:07:24
didn't and so what am I? What's wrong? The puns at the end of

1:07:32
the sea so do you think maybe I because I thought that could have someone else was saying uh speaking to speed I don't know if you know Leon chagrin. But speaking of land shy, executive producer, as I said to him is I think that potentially their into their they wanting to get people who like sport and potentially someone who likes sport doesn't like me. Sports sports like I'm a sports kind of guy. He actually said That

1:08:01
some truth bombs

1:08:03
because he liked the idea but I'm sure do you think there's a way for I know like as we would just pay for the subscription? Yeah

actually like I got right into the college basketball for whatever reason that's what was on ok ok instead of Ready Steady cook yeah the red pen

1:08:32
tonight Let's get ready to rumble yeah

1:08:36
so I'm

1:08:38
a wrestling reference just like a

1:08:40
sports reference in general nice nice get ready to rumble song and everything yeah, Space Jam yeah cuz I actually I used to coordinate the basketball. Blackburn Vikings and

1:08:57
Michael buffer

1:08:58
came out with that are you

1:09:00
He's boxing announcer from boxing.

1:09:05
I'm pretty sure he's trademarked that can you look it up? Let's get ready to rumble. Very well

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known for his trademark. All right, let's get ready to run. Oh my god

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this might be the last

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try back whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Is there anything in all seriousness like

1:09:28
do you want to contact

1:09:33
my sports bed could yes yeah

yeah i think that there's something in that I think that a weekly thing work because I reckon I've probably got an hour a week that I could spend especially like sports. I was gonna say sports season 40 season, sports a sports season I could get into that and just do it because I think it'd be good. We've got a Callum Sinclair coming on the show who plays for the swamp. Really?

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Yeah. Really good friend of mine.

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Oh, perfect. Yeah. I kill him now with promiscuity. Yeah, right where else to make rotten boy? Yeah, yeah.

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Now he's a Ripper.

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Yeah, he's so do you reckon I could potentially leverage his image TKO? Would that be impressive? Yeah, do a photo at the end. And I'd be with the maybe may holding out the kaio app.

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Login, get a little megaphone and then put in let's get rid of

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whatever his name is. Well,

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yeah, I mean, cuz I'm when we're not much of a. We're trying to do something different to radio, but I guess there's a potential I wouldn't like to have one consistent segment next year. So what would it be so can we do one now? Yeah, so it'd be like 97 would have like a sting. Can you just make one up on the spot serves A voice over but get some put some something into it just Can you just care about it? Yeah, for once.

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Welcome to Josh Janssen chaos sports weekly wrap up, let's get ready to rumble

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rumble but I also don't fucking say Kaos name again. We're saying cash or subscription. It's all about sports

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or like

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my other problem I couldn't even I was I was trying to Google like a competitor. So I could be like, Hey, I'm also talking there. Yeah foxtel

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they're in the same building.

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So we're gonna fall flat is the actual content of this sigma. Yes.

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All right, I'd be like, I think that I would have the ability to talk a bit better about it. So I'd be like, I was really was interesting. What I noticed was like I think like hockey would be a good example. I'm watching hockey. It's like, well, for people who haven't watched ice hockey before, extremely aggressive what I thought was interesting is the way

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extremely hockey that's I think, you know, that wouldn't after your first few words.

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That's Yeah, but so

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yeah, I think the razor blade on their face flying and this is quite

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general knowledge. Yeah, it's a bit of a general knowledge slash tactical sports talk. But yeah, I just think that there's probably something in at the end of the episode. Everyone knows something about some form of sport that they could potentially use as a piece of trivia at a party that weekend.

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I know. Yeah, that takes a bit of it. The other thing which I don't know if you're that into is this being a laughing at you segments based on the lack of general knowledge because I think that'd be quite funny. pointing out that Things that are blatantly obvious that you actually genuinely had no fucking idea about.

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Yeah, well, I think that there's math related.

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sports related so the hockey thing I

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will say that I probably was

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hockey, mildly aggressive or quite aggressive. It's

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which is more the more aggressive mildly Quiet Quiet. Quiet is more than mildly mildly. Did What did I say? marbley say then Quiet Quiet. Quiet. Quiet. The same thing.

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This segment

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you know what? Maybe I do it by the fact this is what we do. Fuck off. kayo fuck off sports bit. Fuck off. foxtel I think what we do

now I think we get Nando's on board. There a client of ours already in the supply. Surely we can send them an invoice. And they might pay randomly. Yeah, but what we could do is I could do it based on Perry based things. So I could Say based on that mild thing. Lemon and herb mild extra hot. And I bring the sort of sport visual cricket I know cricket like KFC get really big on to the cricket. Yeah, so I'm just like hey Nando's. Do you want fucking KFC to be doing all the sports stuff?

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To do KFC just give the big bash cash to speed their main sponsor.

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So the barrier to entry for Nando's is very low, isn't it? Or maybe grilled or not? Yeah, we've got some things maybe some free vouchers Also, remember they did the whole November deal. where it's like, I just knew someone's like yeah, I'm growing a mark because I get it Frank road. That's right to

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that. Yeah.

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I wish we had nine just fake it up

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now. Did they do they then today was the moment anyway inside baseball also. Sports reference anyway

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you see we're working progress max

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segment was there glad to be part of the first and last segment

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that was the most outstanding thing was easy intro

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brings it he never done theatre or drama in school you got a 97 enter score wow item max price when when does Kenny's when does that come out then I think

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like June was a really good time into snuggle up and I think it will be same time slot which is Monday nights after having been paying attention so nine o'clock I think something like that

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go and where do you have a one spot where everyone goes to see your your stuff?

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yeah got my still up those fake Instagram max price three in Facebook, Max price comedy, and I've got off Chatroulette recently is that was the best. Yeah, that was the last few bees and then say heapsort Yeah, occasionally not addict, but I just swapped for the geeks.

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We do when we finish and we just do a few minutes of chat.

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Okay, in between I've got to get back to sports season

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it's a daily talk show, the daily talk show.com we come back to max it'd be great. I feel like maybe even sports like if I can't hold up all sports knowledge. Let's say that sort of happy to build in that co relation. If you go to the game, I'll

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give you an email I

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said Mr. Guys, Hey guys, get ready to rumble