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Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 551.

Tommy: What's going on, guys?

Josh: It is, uh, December 19th, 3:28 PM here in Melbourne. Guess what time it is in New York City?

Tommy: Um, it's like very early in the morning.

Josh: 11:28 PM.

Tommy: PM. Damn it, I was gonna say that. Uh, you know when you feel in your heart that you should have said the other thing? I did think I should have said later at night, so, but I went the opposite way.

Josh: Our mate Ben Harlem, who lives in New York City, I saw that he was doing some Instagram stories. It is potentially snowing in New York. Can you confirm that, No7? Can you look that up?

Tommy: Yeah, because a lot of people try and go to New York for a white Christmas and it doesn't deliver.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: It doesn't necessarily snow around Christmas time. You could get a blizzard later in, you know, January or A friend of mine said, lives in London, and he said, I said, has it been snowing? He said, nah, not yet. He said, but like February, blizzards and shit, like it gets real bad. So that's like nowhere near Christmas. I'd love a white Christmas.

Josh: Never had one?

Tommy: Nah, never. I mean, one year it snowed in Australia or in Victoria on Christmas at like Falls Creek or something.

Josh: Which is, if you're not from Australia, that is pretty outrageous because it's summer today. Hottest day ever. Really? I didn't see that.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: So, is that on television you're seeing that?

Josh: Happy Harry did a post.

Tommy: Okay. Okay.

Mason: It's the hottest ever as a national average across Australia.

Tommy: Wow.

Josh: When they—

Tommy: Very hot, 40-something.

Josh: When they post the images where the— It shows the colour of the country and it's all red.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Is that actually a true representation of that, like a heat map?

Tommy: I think there was a bit of mayo on that. Harry posted that photo. I saw it. It was like super Australia, just red because it's hot as fuck here. One baby that didn't sleep too well was my baby. I don't know about you babies. How did you sleep last night?

Mason: Not too great.

Tommy: You were a bit tired when you came in this morning.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Were you up a bit late?

Mason: No, no, I went to bed at 10:00.

Tommy: Did Dad have to come in and sleep by your bed and hold your hand for a bit?

Mason: No.

Tommy: Well, I had to do that for Bodhi.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: He was like, he was just getting out of his cot every few minutes.

Josh: Because he knows how to do that now.

Tommy: Yeah, but he was being so cute because he was tired. He was coming in and just like, tomorrow morning we'll, we'll go down, make smoothie, have some toast, and maybe do some dancing. And I was like, and so I was loving it, but just like, mate, you need to go to bed. And so the only way I could put him to sleep was going into his room and bringing a pillow and lying on the ground and having my hand into his cot.

Josh: That's sort of fun though, isn't it?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: No, no. Did you fall asleep?

Tommy: I was so tired.

Josh: I—

Tommy: it was not, not a proper sleep, but I just did it so he would start the sleep, like drift off. And then he did. And so— but it was, it was late. He didn't get to bed till after 10.

Josh: No aircon?

Tommy: We've got aircon, but for some reason he was just hot and restless. We've got like evaporative cooling, very suburban, you know. You look around the roofs and there's a bunch of sort of these evaporative units. On top. Oh, I'm in a bit of a, um, a bit of a— actually, I just put my foot in it. My next-door neighbor, I, um, on the weekend was woken up by his truck going at about 6 AM on Sunday morning.

Josh: His truck going?

Tommy: His truck. So it was like, he owns a truck, like a— but he calls it a monster truck. It's just a big SUV kind of style.

Josh: I was woken to the sound of his truck?

Tommy: I woke up. Oh, sorry, his truck.

Josh: Sorry.

Tommy: Was going, and I saw it just drive out the driveway. I was like, that's odd, it's not a work day. I said, I wonder if it was him. And I'd heard them partying the night before. And, and then I woke up again when it arrived back, and I saw not the owner step out of the vehicle, but his brother step out of the vehicle with a mate. They had Maccas. It was like a cheeky Maccas run. And then I saw him yesterday, and I said to him, mate, Fuck, um, saw your brother on Sunday. He's like, what do you mean? Like, oh, I saw him. Um, I was wondering where your car went. I thought it was you. And so then I looked again and I saw your brother get out. And he's like, did ya?

Josh: Oh, here we go. I was like, oh yeah, ratted on him. This is what— this is, this is me. This is what I did to Jake Jansen.

Tommy: It feels disgusting. I don't ever want to have— I don't ever want to be a part of some rat job.

Josh: What were you expecting? You were, you were hoping that he, uh he was just getting some early morning maccas and his bro was doing it for him.

Tommy: No, no, I made no connection to that. He might have taken his car without asking. And so that's what had happened.

Josh: So what— why were you saying it?

Tommy: Um, because I wanted to— because I was like, oh, I was chatting to him about his ute and I was chatting to him about the weekend, the weather.

Josh: He's— but were you trying to—

Tommy: Saturday night was party and I wanted to find out. I had no— I didn't connect it to— I promise you, I did not connect it to there could be some rat job here.

Josh: What were you trying to find out?

Tommy: Nothing. We're just chatting, and I mentioned, I saw your brother, like, I just told him that. I was like, I saw your brother nick off. I thought it was you. I literally said that to him. I thought it was you. And then I looked out again when he got back, him and his mate fucking stumbled out Maccas.

Josh: And so after you dobbed on his brother, what happened?

Tommy: He was just like, oh, And he's like, the little bastard, I asked him where he got that from and he said he Uber Eats'd it. What does his brother— why?

Josh: Does his brother not have a licence?

Tommy: No, I don't know, but he just probably didn't want his brother driving his fucking work vehicle. I mean, you don't want your brother driving your car. No, it's a, you know, you don't want that shit. And so anyway, I feel like it's gross.

Josh: You told him.

Tommy: I didn't mean to rat on his brother, but I ratted on him.

Josh: I was asking 97 about 2020. He was talking about his driver's license.

Tommy: Uh, you got your L's?

Mason: Yeah, I got my L's.

Tommy: So you get your P's?

Mason: Yep.

Tommy: That has to happen in 2020.

Mason: Yeah, well, no, because I've done the hazards test, which is an online perception test.

Tommy: Yeah, I remember that.

Mason: And so I've, I've got 12 months from the date that I did that, so some, something—

Tommy: Oh no, is that the rule?

Mason: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: I don't remember it being online. I went to VicRoads.

Tommy: It's completely— it's all changed.

Mason: Sorry, sorry, as in it's a It's on the computer. You do it at VicRoads. Yeah. Yeah.

Tommy: You're on an old satcom.

Josh: It's probably an intranet.

Tommy: It is so slow.

Mason: It's a piece of shit.

Tommy: It's horrendous. Oh, it's horrible. But the 12 months between the hazard perception test and actually getting your licence is new. That wasn't when we—

Josh: Well, there's a heap of new rules. I didn't know. First of all, the hazards thing. It's always funny. I feel like when you're in a— the classic thing to say, the big cliché is when you're in a suburb and you're driving along and people are jumping out at you and there's a stop sign, you're like, oh geez, I feel like I'm on the bloody hazards. Do you ever say that?

Tommy: No, never.

Josh: Okay, I've said that a few times. Anyway, uh, Seb's— some rules around having P plates. What 97 was telling me was he cannot have his, um, uh, phone mounted and like displayed. Is that true?

Mason: Yeah, you can't have your phone on you.

Tommy: So red Ps are the first ones, green Ps are the second ones. Red P's, you can't even have your mates in the back.

Josh: Yeah, you can't have anyone in the car.

Tommy: On red, you can have one person in the car, one person in the front, and then the others, you can have more than one if they're over a certain age. I remember that. I mean, that's— and then there's curfew, so you can't be driving late at night unless you—

Josh: point, like, how long are you gonna have to do this for?

Tommy: One year, isn't it? Or two years on your red P's?

Mason: Uh, no, one year on your red P's, and then you get the green— three years on your green P's. So curfew So it's, it's pretty like, it's pretty late curfew.

Josh: But if we, if you want to work late and you've driven here, am I, are you going to fucking call me and say, hey mate, past the curfew, can you drop, I mean, the curfew is probably like midnight.

Tommy: I thought the curfew was specific also to if you're working, like it's a different, if you're going from A to B and you actually have a job, you have to start wearing a uniform so that they know. It is crazy to think that in the States you can get your licence at what, 16, full license. Kids are driving, you know, like the high school movies in the high schools in movies. There's like kids rocking up in cars and they're young as fuck.

Josh: Yeah, it's always funny. You know, Miley Cyrus's TV show Hannah Montana?

Tommy: Oh yeah.

Josh: You know, her little brother in that film, in that TV show? I don't, I can't remember, but he was like over 30 years old when he played the character.

Tommy: What, and what's his name? Can you look him up? So he'd be, he'd be 45 now.

Josh: Yeah, he's quite old. How old is he? Actually, maybe it was in his late 20s, but he played a much younger— He played like a 13-year-old. He was playing the younger brother of Hannah Montana, who was like 15.

Tommy: How amazing was it, the kids that had got puberty first, like the big kids that just look with a beard or whatever, and they just like Everyone else is speaking like this, all the boys. And then there's that one person whose voice had broken.

Josh: Super hairy and stuff. Yeah, there was a guy named Ben that my brother was friends with who just had a goatee, I reckon, at the age of 10. No joke.

Tommy: There's always one.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: There's always one that just, yeah.

Josh: I reckon probably more likely to lead to baldness as well.

Tommy: You reckon?

Josh: Yeah, I think there's probably a correlation. Sev, any word on the age of Adamant?

Mason: Well, so Shannon says he was the older brother.

Josh: Sorry, Shannon.

Mason: And 42 years old now.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And so she— And he was only meant to be a couple of years older or something.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: So, he was a 29-year-old playing a 16-year-old.

Josh: Yeah. But you see that, like, a lot of those, like, kids' TV shows or whatever, they tend to be older. It's like 20-year-olds playing 15-year-olds.

Tommy: I think there is some of these, like, Even Julian Haig, who we've had on the show a bunch, I feel like his look, he looks very Hollywood, that sort of jawline, very beautiful. They end up playing young characters.

Josh: Very beautiful.

Tommy: Very beautiful.

Josh: I like how you said that.

Tommy: They play, you know, 16, 17-year-old jocks and he's 29, 30.

Josh: Have you worn a polo shirt since you finished school?

Tommy: Um, fuck, I think if I even wore polo shirts. Yes. Public school system. There's a lot of polo shirt happening. There was— I wore polo shirts at Sandringham.

Josh: Would you have flicked the collar?

Tommy: Oh, there was flicking the collar. Younger years. So 16 in the Ralph Lauren's, just, just flipping it. Sunglasses on the head.

Mason: Is the idea of protection.

Josh: Yeah. Is that what it's for?

Tommy: Absolutely not. Absolutely not. It was all style.

Josh: Josh Bree was saying that I had a— because 97andI were on a shoot yesterday and he was going crazy. Was that yesterday or the day before?

Mason: Day before. Tuesday.

Josh: Oh no, no, no.

Mason: Yeah, yeah, day before.

Josh: Tuesday. And, um, there's a bug there. Uh, 97 was, um, I mean, I completely get it. It's an annoying trait that he has, which is being extremely sun smart, but I respect it. The thing with sun smart, like, why don't you do it at home?

Mason: Because it doesn't— you have to reapply.

Josh: So he's like, I got sunburn anyway yesterday. So why— no, Tuesday.

Mason: So no, it's—

Josh: I know that But Gemma is a big advocate of being sun smart and all that sort of thing, so I can't be bothered with her slamming me on Instagram.

Tommy: Just follow me on Instagram. It's all about that stuff.

Josh: But they, um, but I just think maybe potentially there's a timing because it felt like at the critical moment, 97's like, I'm going to use right now. It was like a smoker's break. He's like, I just need to apply some sunscreen.

Mason: Yeah, well, I applied it too late as well. I should have, I should have done one when we were in the car before we got out and then one when I put it on.

Josh: Do you think that, um, am I ignorant to think that I, um—

Mason: Jimmy says be careful with your sun smart chat, JJ.

Josh: Uh, the—

Mason: no, I want melanoma or no.

Josh: No, no, thank you. But I have a feeling maybe, uh, someone can let me know, is this a myth, being a skin type that isn't sort of skin cancer-y? Like, I don't have—

Tommy: she's saying less moles.

Josh: I've got no moles.

Tommy: Okay. So interesting because I was looking at my baby boy's skin. He's only got a, like a mole on his little cheek and one on his earlobe. Very cute. One on his, like tiny on his back, little, little beautiful spots. They haven't even been exposed to the sun, so they haven't really, I don't think they've come from sun exposure. He's very moleless. And then I look at like my wife has moles. And I thought that, I was like, and one of my good mates Kel, so many moles, like shitloads of moles. And I was thinking, more moles, does that mean more chance? Moleless, less chance. And that's what you're basically saying, right? I don't have the answer.

Josh: Well, because you could sort of— yeah, you find something nice else?

Tommy: Maybe Gemma has the answers.

Mason: Gem says myth also. What you would call a freckle is technically a mole.

Josh: Okay, so potentially, yeah, any lesion on the skin is considered a mole.

Tommy: So you— I mean, you freckle up, Sebs. Yeah, so that's the cutest thing I've ever fucking seen in my life. He's like a little doll.

Josh: I think you're likely—

Mason: oh, definitely. Yeah, yeah, no, I've got a tendency to get burnt real easy. Like, I've, I've got like a UV app on my phone or whatever, so it's like a widget. And so you enter in your skin type, like fair skin or freckles or whatever, and so it tells you the current burn time that you have. And so like midday, it's like roasting a chicken. Yeah, it's what's 15 minutes.

Josh: I wonder if it was quicker than my fucking frozen burritos at the moment, to be honest.

Tommy: Yeah, I wonder if in the future we'll see like, um, workplaces being in lawsuits around people who have come down with, um, come down with— they've got skin cancer as a result of working outdoors and they're able to I think that's why there's all the OH&S stuff around it, right? Definitely. I mean, I saw yesterday, picked up Bodie from daycare, 40 degrees still at 5 PM or whatever it was, and this bloke, Sportbugger, walks in and he's just in full bloody— what do you call it— PPE, personal protective equipment. Or, you know, he's just like long sleeves, like a jacket over it. I said, fuck, a big day for you, mate.

Josh: I mean, when does heat stroke come in?

Tommy: Well, I think they're just— yeah, there's too many other things that could go wrong. Stuff getting flicked onto your skin, sun exposure.

Josh: Is this skin cancer? Like, is— obviously we have this in Australia because of the ozone layer's fucked. Uh, I like the US, Los Angeles.

Tommy: What's the skin cancer rate like?

Josh: Like, but are they— because obviously like there's been a bunch of talk. I've heard it, Gem talk about it, Shameless talk about it. It seems like everyone's releasing their version of 50 SPF or whatever it is. Is this an Australia-only problem?

Tommy: I think it's quite big in Australia based on the hole in the ozone.

Mason: I mean, New Zealand's got it as well.

Josh: Okay. Because of the ozone.

Mason: Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you can completely put it down to that because you could still probably get it. 1 in 5 Americans will develop skin cancer by the age of 70.

Josh: 1 in 5 Americans. Americans. How many Australians?

Mason: Well, so I was— I think it was on might have been on Gemma's podcast. I think it was 2 in 3 Australians—

Tommy: 2 in 3—

Josh: 2 in 3—

Mason: some sort of melanoma.

Josh: Yeah, some form of melanoma or skin cancer. Yeah, that's— I think there's a difference, right? Melanoma is like—

Mason: well, I think you can—

Tommy: yeah, that is—

Josh: we probably should get some form of doctor on about— have you ever had a skin check?

Tommy: Heaps. Yeah, I've never said heaps, probably 3, but I, I had one. I'll get one. I got one before I went to Mykonos when we got married. I got one this year and I'll get one again next year just after summer. Yeah, I was all good.

Josh: You've got moles?

Tommy: Yeah, not that many. Not that many on my face. Like, what's interesting is the ones that I was ever like, oh, I'm gonna get this one checked, she looks at it for 2 seconds and goes off. I'm like, are you sure that's all good? Yeah, like, I know that's fine. And so it's like the, the, the one that's just acted— probably for me it's like I've had these ones and so if they just cheque them So it's 100%. But the thing is, it's admin. It's also confronting. It's confronting because you have to feel like you either go in completely numb and you just— but a lot of people would start the wheels turning as soon as they book in for someone to look for cancer. It's essentially what's going on. I need to look. I need to look.

Josh: Have you had one, Seb?

Mason: No, I got to go do it.

Josh: You should do it.

Tommy: Bill's in Australia.

Mason: Yeah, I was actually—

Josh: I was actually— it's free.

Mason: It's free. I was thinking about it.

Josh: That's the only reason to tummy's doing it, he books it in as much as possible. Just getting that free.

Tommy: Dude, I was gonna—

Mason: I was thinking about it last night. I gotta— I'll just book in like twice a year and just get it checked because I've got like, like freckles on my like shoulders and stuff and they— yeah, I don't know, they're just— I mean, I don't really look at them that much, so whatever.

Josh: I mean, if you were to put together a sort of a list of 10 things every adult should do, well, like once a year, what should there be?

Tommy: A dentist, skin check. Uh, I was gonna say blood type.

Josh: So my passport expires in November this year, or next year. And so 6 months is normally like the cutoff. So if you've got less than 6 months left on your passport, most— I think like places won't accept you. Like you won't be able to go to the US or Asia and stuff like that.

Tommy: Well, I just have to get it done by sort of Feb.

Josh: So it's always—

Tommy: yeah.

Mason: Jordan, Jordan Michaelides says dentist, skin check, GP checkup, eye check, all annually.

Josh: Optometrist, that's an interesting one.

Mason: I mean, they're free, you can go get them at like just bulk build it like—

Tommy: I think if you just think so for these things, for an eye one specifically, do you need to think you have an eye problem? Like, it makes more sense for you to But maybe not, you've got glasses.

Josh: I mean, the, um, if I— is very good. Bree gets it all done. She's like trying to think of the interesting ones that she gets.

Mason: Gemma says her best mate is a dermoscopist. Maybe we do a skin cheque on air.

Josh: Oh yeah, that'd be fun.

Tommy: You gotta get like— I get down to my undies.

Josh: Why don't we do it in the sauna?

Tommy: Good, um, working conditions. Too hot.

Josh: Yeah, well, I think they'll probably—

Tommy: and don't try to batch your admin, dude, or your goals.

Josh: Yeah, I would like batching skin with you.

Tommy: Imagine if you could just—

Josh: what about laser? Do they do laser as well?

Tommy: Yeah, 10 of your things in one day, the bucket list.

Josh: Anything that you guys are putting off doing, have you gone on some sort of payment plan or something for that $400, um, red light?

Tommy: Oh, that's a That's true, you could do a payment plan.

Josh: I think so. Oh, how about— I don't know whether I should say this. I will. I opened some mail accidentally that wasn't mine.

Tommy: It's fine, dude, everyone does it. Oh, it's a fucking offense.

Josh: Yeah, it's a federal offense.

Tommy: Yeah, federal. Like, for one, where are the feds? When are they coming to—

Josh: for you, it's recorded, so it feels like it's— yeah, especially given we are trying to—

Tommy: accident. If you're just getting mail, if you're being a rat and looking through mailboxes.

Josh: But my point is, we're trying— we're currently in negotiation associations trying to organise access to a mail facility to do the show. And so I feel like potentially being the guy that accidentally opens people's mail—

Tommy: accident, I think. Yeah, it's okay.

Josh: So anyway, I opened up some mail and it was from the previous tenant at our apartment, and it was from a law firm. And the information on there was that they had So I did some Google. I can't— I don't know the— her first name, uh, but I'd Googled her previously because we'd received other mail. But she's originally from England and she must have been living here and then she's gone home.

Tommy: I'm starting to understand why they don't want people looking at other people's mail.

Mason: Yeah, no, I get it.

Tommy: It's really— the penny dropped when you get a bit of things.

Mason: You could have gotten away with it was an accident until I Googled them and found out that they lived in the UK.

Josh: No, no, no, no, no. So that was previously. I hadn't opened the mail previously. So let me Let me roll back. So what happened was previously we've received mail for this person and I'm like, oh, Simone blah blah, I'm going to Google to see where they live or like if like what their deal is. So who was that last time?

Tommy: Most people RTS, put it back in the mailbox.

Josh: Too much, I admit. Yeah. So, but we did do it. Bree said she did do that.

Mason: I just spin them.

Josh: Is that legal?

Tommy: I'm pretty sure that's illegal.

Mason: Not my problem.

Tommy: That's the definition of rude.

Josh: No, so I, um, I found out about this person like 6 months ago, but then sort of had let it go. And then I got this mail, accidentally opened it, was reading it and saying, hi Simone, or whatever her name is, uh, you're, uh, we're from blah blah representing National Australia Bank, whichever bank it was. Uh, there's an outstanding debt of $289. If it's not paid within 7 days, there's gonna be like legal proceedings.

Tommy: Oh wow, this poor girl.

Josh: So what do I do? So the thing is that I've opened the mail, I found it. Part of me, part of me was like, but the thing is that if I bin it and they— someone finds it and they're like, oh, what the deal? Like could people trace back to me and say she could be across, she could be back in the UK. Well, so that's what they want.

Tommy: She is, she is 100% sure.

Josh: I think, yeah, I saw FaceTime. No, no, no. So the annoying thing is I never sort of, um, wrote down her name and all the other mailers back, and so now I just have an initial of her first name and then the last name.

Tommy: Ah, very nice. Um, when it was an accident when Amy and I lived in Bondi We were only there for 6 months. We were in this cute little apartment and we would get mail every now and then. I'm sure I can't remember what was done with it. Amy loves to RTS it and get it back in. I'm the same with mail. I'm too much, too much admin. Yeah, there was, it was addressed to Zoe Foster. Oh, and this is Hamish, Hamish's wife. Amy has since worked out from listening to stuff and reading stuff that she used to live in Bondi. So there could be a chance, and I forgot to even ask her. I knew this when she came in on the show. I forgot to ask her, did she live in this specific address?

Josh: Interesting.

Tommy: And so we might have lived in the same apartment, like the exact same apartment.

Josh: I was also just thinking about how many times I've not changed my address for shit. How much mail, especially I've mentioned this before, my domain name registrar.

Mason: Oh yeah.

Josh: Like that has been fucking my Lysterfield South address for like 15 years. I haven't lived there in 15 years and normally would I be getting the registrar renewal, but that's the— that all the WHOIS records are public, so you get all the sales letters and shit. So I reckon there is someone in Lysterfield South getting— like, they would know Josh Janson.

Tommy: Can we do a video, covert, long lens, you going up, uh, fully introducing yourself? Hi guys, I'm Josh Janson. I was a previous resident here. I understand you've been getting quite a bit of my mail over the years. I've just come to collect it. Yeah, just see and just have a conversation and see what happens.

Josh: Pranky. Yeah, would you—

Mason: what if you get your mail?

Josh: Could— how would you feel about, um, if I went back to '97? No, what about if '97 and I filmed it and you just say, hey, I'm Josh Jansen?

Tommy: I'm happy to do that. Fuck yeah, yes!

Josh: Can we do that?

Tommy: Yeah, that's even better because I'll, I'll feel like I'll ham it up a bit more.

Josh: Yeah, it's just like you might not recognise me, I was 122 kilos. But then the only problem is they're going to ask you questions about the house.

Mason: That's all right, you can debrief, you can debrief, dude.

Josh: I will spin Maybe we can do an in-ear. That's amazing, I love that. Yeah, and I can like talk to him, we can hear in the car.

Tommy: Yeah, can you— yeah, mention the—

Josh: why don't we get— could we do this before the end of the year?

Tommy: Absolutely not.

Mason: Probably not.

Tommy: Absolutely not.

Mason: New Year, it's pretty easy.

Tommy: New Year, new thing.

Josh: It's a great piece of content to go out on.

Tommy: I know, it's a great piece of content for New Year. Oh, I've got another one.

Josh: We could get Gemma along as well. But the thing is, all we have to do to be honest, is have the time to do it.

Tommy: No, we don't have to do it.

Josh: My only concern is the bit like, because they might offer, they might say, here, we'll show you around your old place.

Tommy: No, I'm happy to do that. I'm happy to do that because then I've got the story.

Mason: But what if they don't have your mail?

Josh: But they would be, they'll be like, oh, we have gotten so much previously.

Mason: How about if they haven't?

Josh: How about definitely?

Tommy: What about, what about this? I have a bottle of wine to say sorry, to say sorry, and it's not ex— I'm not expecting it. So I've just realised that I haven't changed my address for 15 years. This is where I grew up.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And I just wanted to bring this and give it to you as a token of my appreciation.

Josh: Who gave us that champagne?

Mason: I don't know.

Tommy: Um, yeah, Ebb 500.

Mason: Oh, was that a gift?

Tommy: Yeah, we got it for a gift, so we'll definitely be regifting that.

Josh: Perfect.

Tommy: All right, this is good. So I think I'll, um, yeah, I'm happy. And then I wear glasses. Can I dress up as Josh Janson?

Josh: If we were to really go there, so the name of the champagne is called Jans.

Tommy: Jansen.

Josh: This is from my family property. I'll give you some Jans, uh, some champagne.

Mason: When was that made? But it'd be like 1970. Why?

Tommy: It's not— it— no, no, it's a family property. Yeah, yeah, well, we could have had it made at the fucking house in Listerfield. Where was that?

Josh: Listerfield South. Yeah.

Tommy: Yeah, I like this.

Josh: Okay, well, it's going to be fun. Anyone on the Instagrams? 97 before we head off.

Mason: Shannon says, put a bloody Mail Direct on your gronk of a previous tenant. She also throws them in the bin.

Josh: Okay, yeah. Can we— can you quickly look up, Sev, the legalities around throwing mail in the bin?

Tommy: Yeah, it's annoying. Oh, would you ever send cash in the mail?

Josh: No, but what about, uh, Diavella? I think he told us on air about the, um, the ring.

Tommy: Yeah, uninsured. Uninsured.

Josh: That's ridiculous. No, I remember I used to, um, I had one auntie that would give me $20 as a check, CommBank.

Tommy: I mean, cheques are okay because they, if they get— it's trackable.

Josh: Have you ever sent cash?

Tommy: Dude, we got cash from somebody for our wedding a couple of years ago that came in the mail. Amazing that we got it. Two days ago, Amy's dad sent her two cards, one for her birthday and one for Christmas.

Josh: I thought you were going to say one with a credit card, the other with the PIN. Yeah, you know, the banks sort of do that sort of thing. So it's all, I'm going to send you a Visa gift card, and then the next day you'll receive a code.

Tommy: But we opened them and I made a joke. I was like, ah, before you read it, tip it upside down and shake it like, like, yeah, it's a funny thing you do as a kid because you think there's cash in there.

Josh: There's no funny in this, and it's all fucking serious.

Tommy: I'm serious.

Mason: We want cash.

Tommy: Send cash. There was cash in there, but we're like, imagine if someone has just chosen to steal.

Josh: Why don't we test out whether it makes a mail? Gronks, send cash to PO Box 400, Abbotsford, Victoria 3067. Uh, that's send cash to—

Mason: could we be a foreign currency collector?

Josh: What does that mean?

Mason: Well, because it's a pain in the ass getting rid of your foreign currency notes.

Josh: Oh, this is a good idea.

Mason: So they can set— because I mean, because more of an incentive than sending us actual Australian cash.

Josh: We accept all currencies. So look in your wallet right now, what have you got? Yeah, have you got a 10?

Tommy: We love USD. Euro. Oh yeah, seriously, it would make—

Josh: $500 euro note, we love those. This is our Patreon. Okay, so I'm going to say it again slowly. PO Box 400, Abbotsford, Victoria 3067. If you send us cash, we'll accept it, please.

Mason: Thank you. Notes and coins?

Josh: Just notes.

Mason: Just notes.

Josh: I don't—

Mason: I don't want to open up to coins. Well, too much admin.

Josh: Too much admin. I have to like, what do you do with a lot of the Asian currency that have small notes and USD $1?

Tommy: And stuff, so we take anything.

Mason: All right, Shannon says, what about a €5 Monte Carlo casino chip?

Tommy: Yeah, we take those casino chips.

Josh: Yes, anything that would be considered currency.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: What's some other things? Oh, gold.

Mason: Gold. Yeah, we'll take gold.

Josh: Um, old jewelry.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, meltable gold.

Mason: That is, we can melt.

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: Gold's seriously expensive. Any—

Josh: is it though?

Mason: So diamond rings.

Tommy: What are you talking about, dude? Look at a kilo of gold. I was talking to my jeweller mate at the wedding. I was at recently. So expensive.

Josh: So how about this? I was talking— Scooter Derek's just put our PO box in the, um, it is ours, it's not his, right?

Mason: Stitcher, I know it's ours.

Josh: Yeah, good. Thanks, Derek.

Tommy: Hang on, how much is gold? 30K a kilo?

Mason: Oh, hang on, per kilogram.

Tommy: Super expensive.

Josh: Is that expensive though?

Tommy: Yes, it's very expensive. Look at the—

Josh: look at what is a bar of gold, mate.

Mason: It's, um, $47,000.

Tommy: And then look at the— so I wonder if you can do it like the Dow Jones, you know, saying like Google stock. Yeah, can you look at the—

Josh: look at the price of gold 6 months or past 12? So this is the thing, um, at an Airbnb that I was staying in in Italy, it was in Serrano, that small mediaeval town, uh, the Airbnb host was saying that an Aussie financial dude stayed at his place. He's like fucking castle thing, whatever it's called. And the guy said, invest in gold, you got to invest in gold. And he did. He put a bunch of cash in gold. Apparently didn't go well.

Tommy: Depends on when you buy. It's like when you bought the Telstra stock.

Josh: Where is it at, Seb's?

Mason: So this is, this is per ounce.

Josh: Yeah, we just need to see, just give us a price per ounce from 2009 and then a price per long time ago, 2019. It's 10 years.

Tommy: Yeah, it's a lot. That's a lot changes. I've got— should be—

Mason: I've got from January 2010.

Josh: Not gonna do— we need 10 years. All right, just do that.

Mason: Um, $1,104 a pound.

Tommy: Oh, sorry. Yeah, I don't know.

Mason: An ounce.

Tommy: An ounce.

Josh: Yeah, $1,000. Say that again.

Mason: $1,104. Yeah, an ounce per ounce.

Josh: And now, can I guess?

Mason: Uh-huh.

Josh: $1,150.

Mason: No, so there was a spike during—

Josh: it's not what we asked—

Mason: 2011 and 2012 where it went up to 1,800.

Josh: And now what did I just say? I said 1,150.

Mason: Yes.

Josh: And what is it now?

Mason: 1,470.

Josh: Okay, so is that good?

Tommy: What's—

Mason: it's gone up a little bit.

Tommy: 400 bucks, 300 bucks.

Josh: What's a—

Tommy: if you look at an index fund Do you even know what you're talking about now? Saying words.

Josh: So an index fund, so it's taking, so it would take like a bunch of businesses or like a, so it's like Fortune 500.

Tommy: So investing in sort of blue chip stock, that's like safe investments.

Josh: I don't know what blue chip stock is, but it's basically, I think it could, but I think it's like an index is so like across the board.

Tommy: So it's a diverse vacation.

Josh: Yeah. And so, um, That's what fucking Warren Buffett suggests, right? Take a— invest in an index fund that takes from the top 40, uh, top 500 Fortune 500 companies. Sevs, what's the index fund? What would that have looked like? At least talk.

Mason: It's— no, no, no, the S&P 500 has performed—

Josh: what does S&P mean?

Mason: It's that— that's the top 500 stocks in the US stock market.

Josh: Yeah, thank you.

Mason: Um, so in 2010, I don't know what the units are.

Josh: Just give us a number. Give us a number. So from 2010, Jan 2010, and then just give us a number for December 2019.

Mason: Okay, so gold in 2010, 1,123.

Tommy: Mm-hmm.

Mason: And then the S&P 500, 1,152. So they're around the same.

Josh: Yeah. And then—

Mason: and now gold, 1,477, and the S&P 500 is 3,191.

Josh: You should invest in the S&P 500. S&P 500.

Tommy: Do not take any of this financial advice.

Mason: Yeah, we're not liable for anything.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, we don't have the number to reel off. You know how they reel off that number like it's 5834333?

Josh: No, we're operating under Barefoot's number.

Tommy: He left his buckets here, so we're pretty much—

Josh: yeah, I think that's what Barefoot would do.

Tommy: That's a huge—

Josh: that's a great return, guys. So there you go. That's— I reckon there's a good little 2020, um, investment option. Yeah. Anyone saying anything in the comments, Sebbs?

Mason: Uh, legit _A_MATE gave us a thumbs up.

Tommy: Oh, thumbs back up at you, mate.

Josh: I actually think that's Barefoot.

Mason: Derek asked, what about kids' teeth?

Josh: What does that mean, price-wise?

Mason: No, no, no, for, um, if we're collecting them.

Tommy: Oh, look, I won't, I won't tell you what to do. Yeah, kids' hair, kids.

Josh: But we only, we accept 3. No, we accept them in threes. Yeah, in 3. 3 teeth.

Mason: Also, you get a batching, you gotta batch them.

Josh: Either that or just fucking 3 of them out.

Mason: Um, Bodhi's Last Day daycare today.

Tommy: He's moving daycare, and so he's been— we've been weaning him off it by only having him—

Josh: heroin.

Tommy: Yeah, his first daycare, he started there over 2 years ago, and his last day is today.

Josh: Does he sense that it's ending?

Tommy: It's a sad time because I don't think he does.

Josh: Really? Did you tell him?

Tommy: You tell him?

Josh: I don't think—

Tommy: I don't think he gets it. I think if Bree dumped you, you wouldn't believe it. You wouldn't really know what's happening. And he'd be like, 'Is he saying, is he saying like, oh, why?' No, no, no.

Josh: 'Why am I going less?' He just loves that one.

Tommy: And, and, you know, he doesn't like the new one. I think he's just got more homies at the other one. He's got heaps of homies, his best friends. I said to him last night, 'Who's your best friend?' Said, 'Leo, he's a good boy.

Josh: And Cruisy, I like him.' He's never going to see Leo again.

Tommy: No, he's seeing him this Saturday, Sunday. He's— we're going to book in dates and so he can catch up with his mates. We're friendly with parents too. Just hanging, just parked.

Josh: Where does Leo live?

Tommy: Just right near in Secunda, near the lake, Albert Park Lake. We're just gonna hang out. But anyway, they've written a nice little, um, send-off for him on the app where you can access all the photos. Look at him, he's so happy for his last day, but he doesn't know what's happening.

Mason: He doesn't know.

Tommy: It's making me— it made me really sad.

Josh: He thinks it's his fucking birthday or something.

Tommy: Do you want to know what they said about him? Uh, good afternoon, families. So this has gone out to everyone.

Josh: It's like a newsletter. Fuck, I would love writing a newsletter like this.

Tommy: Today we say— we— we— today we sad.

Josh: We sad.

Mason: We said—

Josh: wrote it.

Tommy: I don't know, fucking Leo. Today we sad to say goodbye to one of our good friends Bodhi as today's his last day. We wish him all the very best and we'll miss him for sure. Today we focused on working on our attention span through reading different books where children enjoyed reading by themselves. Oh my God, I think I'm realising it was only a bit at the start.

Josh: Keep going.

Tommy: We applied sunscreen on our own before we off to rooftop adventures.

Mason: Great, hope it's SPF 50.

Tommy: Definitely would be. We made the most of the nice weather before the heat hits us again tomorrow. Yeah, it's actually gone way off-boaty.

Josh: I want to hear the whole thing though. It's interesting.

Tommy: Children spent time cleaning the yard. Fuck, they've got them on—

Mason: Just workhorses.

Josh: —labor.

Tommy: Rescuing animals, digging in sand pits. As well as practising the balancing skills on the plank. This afternoon we'll continue to finish off our Christmas gifts after children have a great rest. I thought it was all about Bodie. I hadn't read it before.

Josh: Do you know what it reminds me of? Match reports. Match reports are just real, just a footy. Yeah, today I played, uh, you know, and Devil Hills played, uh, Roval 6-7, 42 to 9-7, uh, 58. It was a great game. Yeah, everyone put in You know, hundreds, solid effort. It was cold out there, but all the boys did really well. Came through, came through.

Tommy: Yeah. Ran it off the boundary quite often. Very hard down the wing.

Josh: Sammy Johns, it was his 45th game, 5 games off 50. You know, he sounds punch drunk.

Tommy: It's a bit like that. Bashed around. Bye.

Josh: It's gonna make more sense.

Tommy: All right, anyway, I'm gonna go break the news to Son. Okay, he's no longer—

Josh: I feel like you should have broken the news earlier.

Tommy: No, I told him, but he just doesn't get it. It's not my fault.

Josh: Okay, that's The Daily Talk Show. Uh, hi@thedailytalkshow.com, PO Box 400, Abbotsford, Victoria 3067. Abbotsford is spelled A-B-B-O-T-S-F-O-R-D.

Tommy: Send cash. Yeah, currencies.

Mason: Even international people, if you want to send your currencies over.

Josh: Definitely. I would love for the post office to close this down. Yeah, based on— do you think they would do that? What was the legalities?

Mason: So no, you actually can't, you actually can't throw away someone else's email because it's considered email. So email, mail, no archiving. No, it's considered, it's considered email tampering and fraud. Mail tampering, mail tampering. Okay. Um, AusPost is the only organisation or body that's allowed to legally dispose of mail.

Josh: What about, um, sending cash?

Mason: Is it legal?

Tommy: You can send cash. Is it— are you thinking like the can't bring 10 grand of current any more than 10?

Josh: Money laundering. You do it on a small scale.

Tommy: Why can't you send cash? Money laundering. So that's not— it's not money laundering. Do you know what money laundering is? Moving around cash? No, it's not.

Josh: What do you think money laundering is?

Tommy: Moving around cash.

Mason: What do you think it is? No, they wreck—

Tommy: it's not money laundering. What do you think money laundering is? Money laundering is cleaning dirty money, making it so it actually can go onto books without being seen as fucking illegal cash. That's why you buy a cafe, deal drugs, run the money through the cash business.

Josh: Money laundering doesn't only happen at cafes.

Tommy: Buy a laundromat.

Josh: Cash business, you're saying it's too literal all of a sudden.

Tommy: It's exactly what money laundering is.

Mason: So they— AusPost won't send banknotes or coins internationally, so we're fine.

Tommy: Okay, so if you're in Australia, send coins. If you're overseas, send cash.

Josh: Can you define money laundering for us, please, Seb?

Tommy: Hang on, you explain what money laundering is because I just explained it.

Josh: Money laundering is basically hiding your financial situation through moving around money, and it can happen in a number of ways, whether it be through moving into different jurisdictions. So why would I just post—

Mason: have a ban on it?

Tommy: No, no, no. So what I'm saying is, I'm happy to be proven wrong, but that's not what money laundering is.

Josh: Okay, how about this? Where's the place where everyone sends their— like hides their money into the banks?

Tommy: Okay, oh, the Caribbean, or like the—

Josh: that's— so I could send fucking $100 grand in the post.

Mason: They do it They do it electronically.

Tommy: Okay, so you're saying taking physical cash— yeah, but we're not—

Mason: you're saying you couldn't send it physically?

Josh: Yeah, that's what they fucking do. What was I watching? No, they wouldn't. That was literally— wasn't that Wolf of Wall Street?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they take the cash and they go to another and they put it into a new account. I get that, like, but look up money laundering. What does it mean if you are— if I, if I sold something and I did— so you could, you could even You probably even have to manage.

Josh: Let's hear the definition.

Mason: Go. The concealment of the origins of illegally obtained money, typically by means of transfer involving foreign banks or legitimate businesses. So we're both right.

Josh: Well done. Thanks, guys. We're good, aren't we?

Tommy: It's actually the best outcome.

Josh: I feel like you were saying that I was wrong.

Mason: I mean, you were saying he was wrong. Yeah, I was actually—

Josh: no, no, but this is the funny thing. This is actually the funny thing. I wasn't saying that he was wrong. I was saying— I was thinking he was right. No, I was saying that my bit was right. I was saying like, you don't have to—

Mason: money laundering— listen to Craig's episode when it comes out.

Josh: Exactly. But money laundering doesn't require opening fucking AU79. It doesn't require a cafe. And I'm definitely not accusing Lawrence of money laundering either.

Tommy: Better game.

Josh: A legitimate business doing just smashed avo and great service. It's all about the community. Anything else before we go?

Mason: I mean, Scooter Derek says result, resolved. Yeah, I mean, great result.

Josh: It's a Daily Talk Show, uh, comprehensive look into what money laundering actually means. Enjoy the rest of your day. PO Box 400, Abbotsford, Victoria 3067. Good morning.