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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 490. We got out my

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back, Julian. Hi, how are you, brother? I'm back my best Jawbones in the business. We need to clarify something because I don't even know if we've cleaned it up with you. Did we blow your head off last time with the headphone volume?

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Yeah, well, I didn't really know what to expect. I've never done it before. So yeah, I think it was pretty loud.

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And then that's probably why I was talking a bit more quietly already. I'm more vibrant. Yeah. Actually,

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the only way it worked out is the next day we had someone else on

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or no, I was using the headphones or whatever. Yeah,

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last right away. This isn't right.

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Yeah. So they're bringing in your is is called tennis tennis. Yeah. tinnitus. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's my lawyer. There's actually on a lot of the mixes, they do have a warning for gronk where it's like, you need to enable a setting to make it really loud.

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I am and

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I mean what I appreciate is anything that offers a pre warning slightly off but when you get good pass services to the airport, they always say sir if you get your passport i that is such a nice thing I had it in Melvin

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nice and kind of useless

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if you don't give you the airport and you got no passport, you

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know, I don't. All right, well get back in the Can I ask when you get into the stream or when you get started?

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I know night was x file which took us to the airport, the great little private business or home, you know, like a local small business. They the guy as soon as he said and I was kind of like this flustered because I wasn't expecting this kind of shit. And then in Singapore, they said, Can you please do a passport check?

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And that's very good. They must have some issues. How do you tend to get to the airport and Are you someone who gets very

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good About passport and normally you'd like a three hour Oh, he doesn't actually

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I should I should make sure yeah, he should start putting that into his repertoire is it yeah it's always been a thing he picks up and drops off me my sister whenever we need to. Generally moms that are like once dad's day

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I would tend to say that the person who still gets a lift to the airport from dad is also there he tag is linked to dad's account is that

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correct with you? Thanks his dad's car

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crashes many kids do on the family one which the only reason I got off was because I had a family get a baby and then you have to you have to do it forced my hand there but

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most of that stuff we've kept linked to the family to just like when you spending a lot of time overseas yeah just makes it easier you like you come home and it's just taken care of

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was a lot of admin removing and account what did it was Josh

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to be going to Maddie bank to and mine.

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An extra 10 series you know, I mean Mister

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Mister 90 Seven even shares Uber accounts have you at least got your own Uber account? Oh, yeah.

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No, I

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have a fat You see, I've messed it up my family account. So mom's got the parent account or whatever. And then I'll just have a credit card on my one credit card as in credit card. Yeah.

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Is there anything any gronk move you're pulling with, with mom and dad? You know, there's some subscription subscription that you did riding

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their Netflix.

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Now, mom's using my sister's

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Okay, yeah, your mom's a gronk.

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Dad doesn't have Netflix. He's only just gotten on to what that is. He just hit at one last week. Wow. So the fossils? Yeah.

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When When did they when did How old was he when you were born? 5050. So now, my mom's just in 70. It's Is that it? Was it he was older when you had the right huh? Wow. Still only God?

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Yeah, we call him the silver fox. Fox. Yeah, it's across with three times a week.

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Really?

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That's what I'm worried about. I'm not sure if what I've mentioned last time, as opposed to this time. I mean, the thing is that we so

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we go over stuff anytime. Yes, yeah. Yeah. Because like when you catch up with a mate, sometimes you're listening. Sometimes you're not repetition. I would be upset if you'd listened to the show, picked out everything that we talked about. And then anytime I brought up anything,

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actually covered that last time, Josh, we could just move on from that topic.

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It's literally like when we're doing a film about like a business or whatever, you're trying to get grabs. The my pet peeve is when they said, as I was saying before, they reference back and actually use it. So he's doing he's at one dad and he's doing it three times a week.

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That's ridiculous. Not

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he's not like doing you know, like, muscle ups and stuff. It's it's a bit of regressed movements,

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but still entering in a 45 premises. I don't like it. Yeah,

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he loves it. And so I love him that they all he missed like a week of training because he was sick. And they called me wanting his phone number. I know what they didn't have his phone number there. But, but they're like, what is he? Okay, just checking on him. I'm like, Oh, that's pretty. They love him.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And so is he like the oldest dude in the home? place?

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Possibly the whole town?

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Yeah, yeah.

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Now, yeah, I think he is probably by Yeah, I'd say probably 1015 maybe 20 years.

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Yeah. It's amazing. It's good.

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So the difference between 45 and CrossFit?

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Yeah, you train 45 What's the main differences between the two? Um, I'd say CrossFit more, there's more of a strength component, whereas like, they have strength days at 45. But at CrossFit, you'll do like a Like really for strength focus we've got like plenty of rest like couple minutes rest and then you'll do like a three like RM rep max kind of deadlift so you're gone pretty heavy, heavy there and the movements tend to be a bit more

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What do you call it like higher higher risk

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I guess you call it we get to learn all the Olympic lifting move Yeah, yeah, I can't do them heavy with wrong form because you'll just play back in half.

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Yeah. But you can definitely tell when you got people that are 45 who've done a bit of CrossFit or done a bit of Olympic lifting their form is awesome with because we still do some cleans and stuff and you still need to coach people on it but there's just less time and everyone you're doing big circuits

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in the community though is a similar it would you say

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yet similar. I mean, both kind of have that really good ability to bring people together and diverse

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45 carbon there's, there's a CrossFit cult

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you feel like you're 45 have their like branding down in more from a cult perspective. glueing the wrong stash recording.

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Know that Yeah, they're very good at it at that. It's the fastest growing chain in the world. I cry like a lie is anything yeah, like, fastest growing franchise and we have it popping up that quick but

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this Saturday out of Sydney, Jeff Jarrett, who we've had on the show and Melbourne

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was Sydney

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my maybe I might live in ours who's friends with the owners are the founders of a 45 fucking business

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and then there's that the famous landmark Yeah. And so he

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he's waiting to sell the company and he owns a couple in LA

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and he owns UFC or he sold that

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he owns UFC

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you look it up. Marky Mark. Crazy.

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He's one of started in Sydney Paddington. That's all good

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vibrations. Really. It's true.

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I was doing a bit of researching. I just typed your name into Google. Oh, no. I'm one of those. I mean, I was thinking about why These sites exist and then I thought it's probably because people like me, I love looking at the network sites or celebrities. Like if you type in anyone's know, if you type in anyone's name that's you know, been in the media there's usually some network site and what I've realised is the sites are just bullshit. Someone's they like clean

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it up.

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Yeah, did they pump ads through as well so you're getting all these like pop ups and shit, but I found one with your name on this. Which I wanted to watch little wine, the rapid talk little wine. And he was talking about those net worth sites and his net worth is like hundred and 50 I said little wine. It is it will It's a brave yet it's a little shorter. lilium when you say

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he sent its 50 cent, little wine.

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He said that he that net worth is fucking absolutely way off like in terms of Hi it says he's got 150 minutes I keep our nails fucking with 150 million Yeah. Anyway this is got you were you born on in 1991 so it's got that wrong it does say the Riverdale stuff the show that you're on so it's correct but I went to it talks about your sisters Georgina Hague

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then

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it gets down to think they're gonna guess

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what do you guys search for this for some reason I was just like wanting to say

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can you give it to our bank if you name it?

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It's like Bitcoin Can I catch that in?

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So it says according to Wikipedia, Forbes, IMDb and various online resources. famous TV actor Julian Hayes. net worth is 1 million to 5 million

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that's why I'm working.

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Tommy, dead or alive.

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current database Julian is still alive.

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Good. That probably made a website stuff.

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Yeah, you guys

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thinking about that as soon as relationship status we don't have much information about his past relationship in any previous engaged according to his some of its like shady spelling so you can tell it tell it shit. You lay Oh, yeah. So they got that right. They got a few things.

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They got two things right. Just number one a $5 million net worth one to five even that like you that's

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a big is it is a huge gap between Yeah,

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yeah, that's a lot of

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millions in between. I mean, I've lost five, five now and they thought I used to have it easier, but I'm over

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how much do you think about personal brand? Like it is obviously someone can just google you and get that What if you were to unfortunately I think about it and I wish that I didn't because even like more recently on social media and whatnot with what I like to do on the put out there and I like to just kind of be myself and be silly. And then every now and then be serious and put out whatever message you want to put out. And you can't help but think about like, is this actually going to affect my career? And I just think like all that stuff is actually kind of toxic. Yesterday 16th Street had Eric Bana come in and do a talk. That's an acting school. So when I went to and, and one of the questions that one of the kids said was,

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what's your net worth?

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Because they says

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yeah, and it was about social media and Eric ban is not really on social media and and then the q&a was hosted by Kim courageous, who's the kind of Director of the School and stuff and and so yeah, for them to hear that question. Like, kind of where I'm at where in amongst that were like your agents and soft kind of talking about. That'll help if social media is up a bit and like, we're all aware that people do book stuff.

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Most of you tick tock

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tick tock gnomes.

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Well like yeah, I won't name names, but I know of like a guy who did a movie because his Instagram following was like above 10 million and they were wanting they're wanting someone else but then they were like, oh, but he's got the following. So it does happen and the question was about that, like, does that help and has that affected your career and stuff? But I mean, Eric Ben is at a level that's good.

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Yeah, he's old school. Yes. Within the old school,

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slave actors, he

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doesn't really need need it. But then I still agree with like, what so what was he say What did they say he was sort of dislike if that's your focus, you've got the wrong focus. And a lot of people are focusing on that now. Yeah.

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And

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it should, like you can I think it's smart to like use it but not let it use you. So like, have it as a it can be our focus, but not focus? Yeah. And I think that's the thing. It's like when it becomes number one Is it not fun anymore? But like, it doesn't

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actually help? Do you? Like do you like posting on social media?

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Yeah, I do. Yeah, I find that when I'm posting stuff that just kind of feels like I like to post silly stuff and kind of spontaneous. Like, you know, if you say my, yeah,

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it feels like I'm watching some form of like theatre sports or Yeah.

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Like it actually does. From a personal brand point of view. I think it plays into that nicely, which is like, improvisation. You just turn it on. What do I hear? I'm not we're

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practising your craft because you, you're an act. So it's you doing the What was it? Someone who had just walked across that

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Tick tock, tick tock. I was

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like, I'm going to give this Tick Tock a crack might

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keep going.

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Yeah, I was just like, I was just like, Okay, come up with ideas. That's my idea. Check it out there. And then it was just how's this going myself and Then the idea was like I had written on there when you when you push a boulder on it when you see someone push a boulder. Yeah, any like I did a double take and then looked over and then saw the person do it and then just like kind of law Yeah. So

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yeah, I mean that idiot. Yeah.

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Because there is because I was thinking the other day about writing the difference between having a blog and writing every day and opening up a Word document and writing every day and what the differences are so for instance, you could do that improv thing where you record it to your phone and don't publish. What do you think the distinction is between the process of doing it personally where you don't publish it, or and when you do it for a social media audience

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courage?

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I think that's one that might be it. Because so much of the fear is, what are people going to think how is this going to be received and when And yeah coming back to like wife kind of feel good dude like putting it out there is there's a voice or there's a feeling saying don't do it and I always feel better after and then maybe a bit shit up later when someone's like that was shit or that was annoying Yeah, who are these are like children so it's only ever like one in 1000 it's it's pretty rare but like you hold on to like yo yo your ego wants evidence so it's always gonna be like CC told you know you're gonna have 1000

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to even get that step one you're gonna see that yeah and yeah cuz I don't think I actually enjoy I enjoy the creating more so than the posting like then yeah putting stuff out there

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when was the last time you created something without putting it out there

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you know maybe just stuff like photos and shit more so photos and says I wonder but

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also what is the process of like having something fully formed in Complete. So you might film something, but actually, have you ever say something together and then not like actually seeing it through towards completion and really not

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really evident that it is a part of the process? It's like I don't, yeah, it's it's quite an important part of the process. Even with acting, I think, like, you can rehearse stuff as much as you want and do all your homework and everything. But there's something about, like doing it, like when they call action, or you know, when the play starts, that there's just like this energy that you know that now it's the thing. Like now it's for real, but the interesting is weird. It's like you've made the framework. And now we're going to play for real, and it's almost like that's when all the things will fall into place. Before that. It's not going to happen in rehearsal. It's never going to be like that. in rehearsal doesn't have energy.

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And so then I guess the extension of that is the actual distribution going on to Netflix or going on to, you know, TV or whatever it is. What I guess it's slightly different if you're doing a post at home and posting it to social media. Yeah, that's different than your almost doing a performance for an audience when you're on set. So you're almost at the distribution stage or at the delivery of final delivery then, and then you sort of can forget about it.

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I mean, like podcasting, you can do it every day and put it out there. So what's the thing for acting that you can do every day? that contributes to the time when you've got the people around you and you bet this go? Like, how do you try and what is

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it's like, it's kind of like being a tennis player. It's hard to do it by yourself against a brick wall.

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You know, I spent a bit of time when I was a kid. Yes, that's why not a tennis. Give me anyway guys. About

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Yeah, I tend to, you know, if I want to work on it,

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actually, I actually like, that's part of why I like doing that sort of stuff as well. Like I enjoy it. And then I feel like it is a little bit of like that kind of spontaneous stuff. Like just trusting myself and seeing what kind of comes out. And then yeah, vocal warm ups and exercises is stuff you can do by yourself. And then you know, but so it's it's a lot harder like you got to be so disciplined to be doing monologues and shooting scenes by yourself. That's why when you're getting self tape auditions to do a lot then you're feeling pretty well practised. But then when

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time every single day for something that then anytime a self type comes in, which is caught up, you know, as an actor, you do it. Yeah. And they do come up. So then you just always ready for that. Is that is that an approach? like yeah,

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you could do that. I just haven't. But I probably probably should be busy. I'm busy on now. I'm time to videos on tape. Apparently Jake Gyllenhaal did that is like it as a kid like they human, his dad would shoot scenes. And he just get him to like keep doing it differently. Like great. Do it again do it differently by not saying like that was wrong, do this you just be like, Okay, great. Do again two different and that's how they practised. So I think that's a pretty smart way to practice. Obviously the best thing you can be doing is classes if you're not if you're not getting any of that sort of stuff, auditions and self tapes and whatnot, then I think you got to be in class. Can you look at a self tape and see the using that example of doing it once having no feedback and doing it again, you're the type of person who could see your performance and see the things that you need to shift. Yeah, I think I've got like quite a, like good ability to

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kind of,

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yeah, pitcher or maybe like with timing and with the interaction seeing how she play out a bit like kind of stepping away from it and having a bit of a director's perspective on it. And then going like all Yeah, shifting a bit of this bit of that. And then coming back to like, as an actor, okay, how can I do that internally, and then make that kind of happen? So it is it is pretty cool process to kind of get to play with both sides of it being the actor kind of being the director. Yeah. And saying like, rk is the storey being told, because the main thing like when you get sides, is you got to work out what the hell is happening, because sometimes it's really confusing. You getting like such a small piece of the puzzle, and not much it's in the middle of a traumatic saying you need to work out. Yeah, you might not necessarily know why. But you might also like you can kind of sometimes even just get the vibe of what's written, and then you don't have the information to back it up. But you can kind of be like, okay, there's probably sexual tension between this guy and girl, so I'll make sure there's more of that or whatever.

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You always just bring the same sexual tension

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actors out there, yeah. If there's any channel or still

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in regards to

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in regards to who you're thinking about from an audience perspective, when you're on set and you're doing a performance, are you thinking about the director? Are you thinking about the person at home sitting on a couch? Know what, what are you thinking about?

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Probably just the person opposite. So like whoever your opposite, probably just thinking about eight Well, yeah, I think Eva, you know, beforehand, you've got maybe a bit of direction from the director. But I think you come in and you just, you know, you direct all that. Like, you almost have to let go of that direction. Well, maybe one piece of information but sometimes the thing is like, even when you've got that one piece of information in your head,

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you Then in your head

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Yeah. Instead of directing that focus on to what you want from the other person, because really it should all be all the answers should be in the other person. Yeah. And then going for that. So yeah, it's a weird combination of like, try not to think and like just be doing and hopefully those lines are there.

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Yeah, we will say some dumb shit. One of the dumbest things I've ever heard come out of Mr. 90 sevens mouth was that new Joker movie looks stupid or something?

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Is that what you said? Good one. He doesn't

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know what's good.

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I'd love to but I think I haven't on the outside. No, I haven't as a stupid. Yeah. I feel like I've got an understanding that hop is there was unbelievable acting within it. Yeah, I never seen it. So I figured that's why I was like, You can't decide stupid when there's a reason people are fucking thinking this is the best acting in a movie. Ever. Why what is it before Josh and I go and say don't give us any spoilers but what what is the hype? And why? Let's make Mr. Nice him feel pretty damn

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well it's a character study in, in the Joker. So it starts off with like this guy Arthur fleck, he's obviously a bit of an outcast, and very flawed and then and struggling in the society and then we get to see everything from his perspective. And so pretty early on, you start feeling for him and you empathise with him. And then you go and then you know, the journey gets darker and darker. So I think for audiences watching it, I think there's been a mixed reaction because I think really, it should make people super uncomfortable. It's going to highlight or it's going to resonate with parts of them that they're not comfortable with their their, their darker side their shadow self. Yeah, so yeah, it's Yeah, the first time I saw I was I was more uncomfortable and I was the next day I felt so awkward. It was 45 and I was like, trying to make jokes with people noses. Like, that's terrible and then like,

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I gotta stop laughing like the Joker.

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Yeah, yeah, seriously cuz he laughs randomly and I was like, oh my god I do that

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like, and they won't

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even tell me that I've got this evil laugh so just like Jesus like I'm like

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the Joker. So is it the is it uncomfortable in the fact that you had empathy for this character that goes on to do all these bad things?

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No I think it's uncomfortable because like, like someone watching it you can't help but be like sucked into it. And then you're going to resonate and empathise. And then that can only happen because that those parts of people exist in everyone. So when those parts of you that you're not comfortable with coming up, that we normally squash down Sure. I think that's young comfortability and then it gets it gets pretty easy. Doc,

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do you think it's asked putting In that broke person, like on the screen? Is it us translating to them versus taking the bits from them into us? Like you think about what you can somebody go fuck I know like I would never do that or like I would never reveal that the projecting onto them

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I don't know. I don't know.

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I think maybe it's bit of both

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yeah they might think it's

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yeah I think it's a reflection Do you think I'm act as a manipulating the viewer in the not a nasty sense but it's all like this sort of manipulation of feeling so you like hacking writes like a well written film is taking from real life and understanding the elements that make someone feel sad or feel happy or the trigger points. Like there's so much to it if you kind of let's try and wire it I

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think when like good actors unveil their vulnerability in whatever way and whatever sense then you kind of a lot of the time When they open up their heart in whatever way, you know whether it's like pure rage, even when we say that, and usually when it's real, we can't help but as an audience, you can't help but feel like when you see something good, it doesn't matter, it's going to make you feel something, you know, so I think with this movie, it's going to make you feel uncomfortable. And I think by the second time I saw it, I felt a bit more comfortable. And I don't know, I've done a bit of sort of Shadow Work and and working on that kind of darker side and getting more comfortable with it. And so, after the first time, I was like, This feels. I don't know, it was so uncomfortable for a couple of days. But then the second time I saw it, I really enjoyed it. It was so weird, but I really enjoyed the second time.

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You need to be a bit fucked up to be an actor. Like you need to have a good it's a funny question because,

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like, we're all fucked up. Like really Well, we're all everyone's got their shit and their trauma and stuff that they want to hide and not open up about. And we've all got a persona. And usually most of the time that persona is protecting kind of that softer inside. And in a way as an actor, especially with training, we want to get to kind of opening up that persona, so then we can make space for another persona to come in and play that persona. And Joaquin Phoenix playing the Joker like, yeah, you you don't see Joaquin Phoenix, like, sure. Sometimes we go like are the physical transformation. He just looked like he just transformed so much. But like with this role, that's just a part of it. Like a lot of like those great performances. That seems to be most of it, and then it's just the person doing that, like, can't you see the person still acting, whereas I just felt like he was just that character. So well, you too. I mean, I think he should get an at least nominated for an Oscar.

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You talk about the the opening The hard stuff is there been a moment where you've struggled with that or you've identified something that you needed to work on based on having to enter it into it as a character.

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I mean, the main character that I've had to work on is one in Riverdale. And I think just before I got that role, I did this workshop where like, I did have to get a bit more comfortable with my, my darker side. So then, it was interesting that then coming on to Riverdale, I then had to Yeah, kind of embody that and then you know, I had to be manipulative and threatening at times and, and I think we enjoy watching those characters enjoy being that way as well. So I wanted to get to a place where I was enjoying going after what I wanted, which was, you know, whatever it was, usually it was sort of like, you know, maybe it's just like power and manipulate those people and be on top and whatever. And then you get to also In as an actor enjoy when like your character doesn't win those little circumstances. And then that character has to, you know, is kind of left red faced or whatever, like he didn't win didn't get that power you you lost that moment. So then it's kind of

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more fuel, you know? And when you've got a script, do you do much annotation? like would you identify emotions or anything like that?

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I tend not to I think it's because I don't want to box it into much. Eric Bana said the same thing. Yes, that this talk he was sort of saying like, he writes very little notes on his pages. I think the more sort of theatrical and theatre based you are, you tend to write tonnes of notes. But I don't know what it is like I think I want to trust I want to do the work and trust the work and then kind of forget about it and let it kind of Just be there. Like almost make it like put it into the subconscious and then and then forget

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about it all I have is as a reference point is my school production performances in year nine. And that's not so many nights but it was one of those cases where you sort of go through the script and you just looking for your Limelight not interesting. not interesting. There's me highlight not interesting not interesting highlight that type of thing. Are you actually uh you reading the script and taking in the other characters dialogue? Is that like a big part of the whole thing?

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pens what

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you're kind of doing so like if you're playing Vince Fontane from grace the ZJ.

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Oh,

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yeah. So I don't know if that gives you more context. And

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I think

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what what you're first looking for when you're building character is when you read a script, I think you should just read a script and just read it as an audience member first time anyway. And then you'll get stuff you enjoy doing. When you write a script, you actually are in it. You like it like you're writing a book. Yeah, I love to, like, if I get the whole thing, and I'll read it, I know it's a good chance to kind of get a picture of the whole storey with auditions. They rarely send you the whole script. But if they do, it's like, it's nice to like, I'll have a read through the whole thing. Why not? But yeah, once you start getting into character work, you can learn a lot about your character by what other characters are saying about you. And just because your character isn't in that scene, that could still be talking about you. And you might learn something in that moment. So yeah, I don't think it's smarter for actors to just read the scenes of their characters in you know, because TV actors tend to get a little bit more lazy when that sort of stuff just because maybe the time constraints are a bit

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worse.

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But yeah, you could learn a lot about like that could be saying, you know, it could be seen with two other characters and they're saying like, all that, that guys, so manipulative or whatever And then you need to know like, that's a circumstance of that character that he's that way.

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Yeah. So you need to know that.

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Yeah. What about like, someone like Alf Stewart from home and away? guys been playing that role for 30 years or something as long as I can remember.

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Yeah. And

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I wonder how much these carries people more into that character. So like you think about it, you rock up every day you're acting. You're using your thinking to sort of transform

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Does he ever say flaming just when he sits down the straight? Well,

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I wonder how much alphas in Yeah, what's the guy's Yeah, you know,

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now Stewart. Look at that, Mr. Nice. I mean, he's just out his ass. But like for us, witching off so the question is for you what you've done switching off post acting so you've done like a stint right? This guy's done 30 years or wherever is 25 years. Yeah, of consistent character work on this person. What do you You think he would be like? Do you think he's morphing into that person based on having spent so much time?

33:05
I've got no idea.

33:06
I don't know how you even tackle it when you you're working on that same character for a few years. Sky the white lines become as good as AZ

33:16
Yeah. You

33:19
imagine what everyone is projecting onto them as well, that

33:22
kind of more so right so so

33:25
probably quite laid back. Probably quite what's your net worth?

33:31
5 million. Right me is his name.

33:34
Yeah, right. Yeah, right.

33:37
mega network MEAGHE. May Rain, rain a

33:46
bit off.

33:49
We've done this before with our non actor friend, Dr. Jason Fox, where we did improvise.

33:55
Given that you are,

33:57
you know, saying

33:58
Yeah, I'd love to do the same show. So, like, if you were to say you're responsible for it the 16th street or whatever, yeah, we've come in. I'm not the constraint guys, you guys. Yeah. Also, I think you can set it up. So I think like, the constraints are, we can't really move around. We've got the microphones but we need to do some form of improvisational performance.

34:22
I mean, the other day we did do an arm wrestle. Yeah on the show, so I know they broke my arm.

34:26
We can't get we can't get to physical actually was the funny thing is it wasn't Tommy nearly breaking my arm.

34:31
Just to clarify.

34:34
It was where I was feeling. It always had shoulder issues. It was feeling it in my shoulder. So I actually let go because I was like, I can be fact it's like hitting my shot.

34:45
Isn't that fair? Isn't it? Anyway,

34:51
so improv? Yeah. You want me to say yes. You can be

34:55
in so we're in an acting school.

34:57
Yeah. Okay. So we're at We're at 16 straight. You Run 16 straight Yeah,

35:01
but that isn't the improvise that so you're entering that so we're entering into, you want to do an improvised,

35:06
like, you want to do an improvised

35:07
strike to say exactly.

35:09
We're going to start without We're at 16 straight as pretend this is actually

35:15
improvised.

35:17
improvised first that were somewhere where we would improvise.

35:21
Improvise. Yeah. Okay, great. Great. let you run it.

35:24
Yeah. I'm gonna say Hey, guys, you know, thanks for, you know, your new actors. I'm going to set up a scene that's going to sort of test that test the waters and we want you involved in the city. You're involved.

35:38
How about you guys played brothers?

35:42
97

35:43
got a place. Yeah, what? Where should they be?

35:49
YG mean LA. A gym in our guy.

35:53
All right, we've got to Tommy.

35:56
Okay, so. So I guess the main role of improv is Yes ending. So just like yes. And so any piece of information you want to say yes to and and build off it. So it's going to start off with just you two in the gym and you

36:08
need to say the words yes and is it but it's

36:16
never saying no, it's always exciting rather than adding so what I was thinking so you don't have to say yeah,

36:23
you're like man I get bogged down in saying yes and

36:26
Josh was like, oh so

36:27
cold in here to go like

36:29
no it's not it's it's quite warm actually.

36:32
Then Then the other actor feels like you don't have

36:35
my nipples of

36:37
exactly right. You don't need it.

36:40
You don't have to say yes, also, it is.

36:47
Also smelly. Say That's hot. Okay. All right. Ready? So, two brothers.

36:53
Did you bring a towel?

36:54
Yeah, I am a packed your favourite one, the pink one and then I got my one. The man got it first was that sort of like, Harlequin changes colour? I love that one.

37:08
Did you bring the deodorant? I already put deodorant on before.

37:13
You can have a shower here. Yeah,

37:16
I do that. Every day. I do the shower thing every day after

37:20
you know I use my hot liquid. But we're only in LA for three days it's not really the every day our air b&b is only two minutes walk. You know, I'm saying I broke shoes and gentlemen, this is the only squat rack in the whole GMG you guys can actually use it. You're gonna keep chatting. Yeah, I'd like to discuss Yes, you're gonna use it.

37:37
Okay,

37:38
okay, okay, I'll be back. I'll be back when you guys are done. Let me know when you catch them. What we're not using

37:43
it. I just had to tell that guy How annoying. He's American accent. But we are in America. But

37:49
anyway, you

37:51
so you didn't bring my Dr.

37:52
Is the camera still on? 97 by the way. Okay, good. We broke.

37:56
It still seems like the squat rack hasn't been used to this point. I'm putting weights on there just like you know, cuz

38:02
sorry. My bros actually just gonna go have a shower anyway,

38:05
but hang on. Excuse me I just I just want to get you know brothers we get a beat and since

38:12
you guys are incest No dad

38:16
I know you guys are here we don't do that

38:21
the thing is he didn't bring my deodorant I brought his towel. What do you recognise that like,

38:26
is this bullshit or what? I don't care. I need to squat.

38:30
Yeah, man. I told you that I can mess around here. Sorry I've had

38:35
I've had my pre workout. I'm stressed.

38:38
Okay, it's been a long day. I'm an actor in LA man. Already the fuck up.

38:42
I'm Sandra. Where do you think we should eat tonight? Sorry, I know you get a squat but we should we ate tonight.

38:51
You boys vegan.

38:53
I'm vegetarian. Yeah, vegetarian, song cafe. Great. The sun cafe. Okay, I'm just gonna do my sets. Thank you. Right now we're just walking off. Yeah. So you're having a shower on

39:06
look? Yeah, look, there's a high chance that I'll start smelling. If I don't because I already do smell so anything. Yes, I'm going to have a

39:14
shake or I was gonna go

39:18
I'm gonna go outside

39:20
and insane what do we think? This is pretty good. His son is that actually a good vegan place because I have gone vegetarian not bad. Okay, yeah

39:32
I was Union City I was actually selfishly wanting to find that because

39:36
I thought you might have a recommendation. Have you ever done viejo? I went vegan for three months. I struggled Why? I watch conspiracy. I can't

39:47
understand what I was watching

39:50
it for me, but the game changes did. Oh, I've heard about this because I changed it from people have sent me the trailer for that. It's the most downloaded documentary on iTunes ever

40:02
when you work that you have to pay for 99 to hire it or rent it?

40:06
Well consider I'm worth 1.5

40:11
James so and so

40:13
the vegan thing

40:16
because I am trying to make it work,

40:18
by the way good work on the same lead, I think

40:22
natural I think it's Yeah, I think that we've got bogged down into the granular maybe the smelling thing in the shower. What do you think 97

40:31
in all honesty, Josh, I felt like he was sort of closed off in that one. You need

40:36
to open your heart and you needed to

40:43
you know,

40:45
you needed to you needed to include all the granular details like Tommy did. Yeah, you know, it's, it's a towel that mumbled it was just like God, just bring the towel now because

40:58
the tricky thing with improv is when You just keep asking other people questions. You're not necessarily laying a piece of information who asked most men have questions

41:07
those men can we go to the video replay

41:10
okay I also think like you don't know if I can anything

41:15
you open your heart Oh I from my heart with Josh defences

41:20
okay now I get it

41:24
I know I personally didn't find I didn't find the

41:27
I think he was trying

41:30
to be funny with the tower like all the different colours I will

41:33
study this for a long

41:36
experts just yet I

41:40
to be honest we nailed it right now. This is what a brother and brother does Yeah, you brothers.

41:46
Still going?

41:48
Just very quickly. I thought the

41:50
I want to do my squat

41:53
squat fuck.

41:54
I think the injection of comedy around the town

41:57
Don't tell me how to run just like

41:59
a bit pants. Mine

42:00
but I thought you could have come up yeah

42:04
and so I guess what I don't necessarily think I get what you find yourself now

42:12
it was a heightened version of both of my The thing is Tommy wouldn't give a fuck about the colour of the town. Yeah because I was playing the little brother you questioning his truth? Yeah I actually think that that is the hot thing

42:24
completely I think you're saying not the right thing

42:30
do you actually get feedback? Is this the kind of feedback that you get and sometimes do you find it hard to

42:37
sometimes fucking concrete heart that you're playing to?

42:41
No other actor you know when you

42:43
pitch about each other? Okay, perfect. Yeah, that's good.

42:50
I feel for him. Yeah, very get booked up this interview. And so the three months of EMV Yeah, no, I'm curious. Yeah. So what happened to your body over the three months? I lost

43:03
weight? muscle? fat and muscle. Good. What did you ate? Can't remember it was it was about four or five

43:11
years ago. It was.

43:13
Yeah, it was vegan bread. Hmm. I was working at patch waffle. I had

43:23
those waffles weekend tapioca?

43:27
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

43:28
I mean, paleo FX.

43:32
Yeah, I do eggs every day now. So,

43:35
yeah, I don't know, just from the three months. The hard bit was what's it called? When you compliance II? Was that the issue like staying compliant during the time like, or was it actually when you were eating? I think

43:49
I wasn't properly informed on how to get in all my nutrients. Like I didn't get enough protein and what I actually needed to be eating instead of just like, you know, heaps of peanut butter and chickpeas and nuts and you know like all the other stuff What do you really need to be able to take care of yourself with a vegan diet? I didn't really research that problem

44:11
so what what should you have done differently as research programme? What would that So did you ever research it or you just gave up gave up 97 based on the game changes I'm not good at retaining information but I know I should be vegetarian. What should he have been doing? He said he's not the doctor I recommended that via more plants.

44:30
Also, they they didn't they didn't talk about going vegan.

44:32
They were vegetarian,

44:34
which is still so they still had eggs, cheese milk, dairy milk, but yeah, I mean, I think if your weight training you definitely want your protein so just like yeah, lentils and all that

44:46
not weight training issue may you still should be

44:50
bone density. Like so many benefits for like it you can say I should and why Trello Don't tell me what I should do you feeling

44:55
lethargic when you feel like what was the actual energy?

44:59
Yeah, I think Low Energy time

45:02
Yeah, there is a good thing about veggies like going vegetarian it for or even the good thing about eating six meals a day it's not the six meals it's the hand that it gives you the It forces your hand to get educated Why the fuck you're looking at him it's nice

45:20
to say to the face and I just looked at him but did

45:24
it so my point being it seems it forces you to start thinking a bit more about it and stop being a gronk crowds Fargas

45:30
and so that's the thing that's all saying to break his braces, like directly eating better on vegetarian This was last night and I was like it because I had a The other day I had a dog not had a margarita pizza. Yeah. And the lunch

45:49
is the same as

45:54
antioxidant. So my point was I was like, you know, it starts with I'm just sort of waning off and then eventually I'll be like, Oh, I feel like more salads and I'll ramp up that and before you know and but did you

46:07
like digesting that stuff to?

46:09
Have you realised that

46:10
yeah well that's it like I haven't had like it I'm looking forward to like a solid cheat at the moment is

46:17
we still the same place say this is made up

46:24
this graphic. Oh, well.

46:28
You guys listening you also missed the hand gesture yeah yeah, that was

46:33
great spirit things Spirit came up

46:38
Did you find like was it was that you on vegan?

46:42
I really can't remember just

46:44
asking you about these poo poo.

46:49
I mean, there's no net worth on Google. Let's go there is Julian

46:56
it's all bullshit as we've realised, yeah, bullshit.

47:00
Now you know what is?

47:02
How? How do you shoot 97

47:05
your body just gets used to a month normal.

47:08
So normal being what's not?

47:10
You don't have to push hard. No, no, I think yes. What

47:13
does it look like? That's good. I don't know. But seriously, I know that it might sound if people are eating turn this off. But what is it? What is your shit look like do you think?

47:24
colour and

47:26
consistency? Is that fictitious? No, it stays consistent. So I don't because I already have a high fibre diet. So adding all the veggies in it doesn't. It doesn't you know make it like yours? So yours is like a sausage.

47:39
Yeah, good.

47:43
slides, if it slides you're in. You're in the clear.

47:46
Oh, that's good. It's meant to be really good. Yeah, mine just yeah, might use your hand. I'm Scott, My Bride.

47:56
Josh is just dive into the bowl and and go up and down and

47:59
just do it. is

48:03
Jason Phantom

48:04
and you've spent a bit of time in LA we're going there. Yeah. In quite soon Mr. Simon Yeah, we're so excited Mr. Nice Guy. He just Yeah, he's coming to first time for the baby. He dishes up in LA fact of the day every show up yeah. So I want him to dish up a fact and but then I want you to also just bring one of your facts that you've learned on the ground and about about

48:27
yeah it's an ally fact

48:28
it could just be a Julian Hague fact doesn't have to be historic facts about it could be just something you've learned and you want to share is the fact that the boys

48:37
okay the boys the boys.

48:39
So today's la fact the Hollywood sign originally said Hollywood land and was meant to advertise real estate.

48:45
That's cool.

48:46
Oh wow. So land fell off obviously. And so they've just kept it Hollywood. I love how different that is how people treat it.

48:52
That's great. Yeah. Have you been like really close? I know that there's fences and shit. Like not meant to get down to the barely Close.

49:00
It's pretty shitty, isn't it though I have a empty kind of Hill.

49:06
It is kind of cool when you really like the trail up to the observatory I and then you can see it pretty clearly from it too. So it's like they've got like the James Dean little statue thing and then you can see the Hollywood sign from there.

49:19
I mean the word Hollywood has so much impact you know the even saying that

49:23
it worked out to their 45

49:24
but just growing up

49:27
in the city, bam. Hollywood, but when

49:30
you miss it, when you come from the airport, you coming down the last year or whatever it is. And if you get to this hill bit, and you see the Hollywood sign the distance where you flying in this something like wow, we're in Hollywood, bro. You know, it's like

49:46
he's buying time for you to come up with your facts.

49:48
Definitely.

49:51
La fact

49:52
Oh, yeah. Um, well, he gave us one fast one.

49:55
He's one by get a car. Don't rely on

50:00
He's really taking the fact and just going into an advice

50:05
try one more.

50:07
So much money on Uber's there I was there for a month last

50:09
he said get a con don't get

50:11
Yeah. Like you guys if you guys can rent a car What about scooters? Dangerous?

50:18
Yeah go on. Well a guy I was staying with when I was in LA Scott he

50:24
he tried it for the first time he's got two cars. And he tried that scalar like he had little scooters for the first time and it had a few drinks but he came off it and like banged up he's in a pretty bad but yeah, they're pretty dangerous. Like the roads that aren't set up. You know, people will be scooting around. And then it says don't go on the sidewalk. So I was like Chicago on the sidewalk. And then I was travelling on the road. Everyone just goes on the sidewalk because the sidewalks are also massive.

50:51
They have begun a massive

50:52
and so you're the type of guy that's comfortable going on a scooter

50:58
that was my first time so First I wasn't that comfortable, but kind of got used to it, but they also not that cheap, but

51:06
there's only been out pretty quick. There's only been 11 scooter deaths. Yeah. nine of them within the rental space. Uh huh. Yeah. GLI is that just La La Liga? Yes.

51:22
I think was an LA specific that Josh

51:25
was it was

51:26
died in school on scooters. In LA alone,

51:31
we look at how many people died on box

51:33
in a lie. I'm not gonna ride a bike this way.

51:38
I guess

51:39
those aren't great odds, you know?

51:42
But hang on, you haven't worked out how many people have written them so you don't know the odds

51:45
yet? That's true.

51:47
We also don't know how many have gone into intensive care.

51:51
True. Yeah, you don't end up there either.

51:53
It was a fact you said the trial up to the observatory is a great viewing point for the

51:58
outside. Yes. Good. Bad. That was just so the observatory

52:02
is really cool to check out if you do like the planetarium.

52:05
I think 97 That's really funny

52:07
guy the planetarium it's got a big telescope rise at the

52:11
observatory. Yeah, couple.

52:12
Yeah, huge. Can you actually use the telescope to look it up to this

52:16
moving? That's just for scientists?

52:19
What if we put a code on?

52:23
on some burner? We're two brothers. Scientists listen. Yeah. Do you have any any mates in LA that we should try and get on the show?

52:31
My sister. She over there?

52:33
Yeah. She lives in Los feelers. So it's like at the bottom of where the observatory is straight down the hill.

52:40
Yeah. I thought she lived back here. Having an argument with her.

52:44
Yeah, yeah.

52:50
Yeah, I think so. I mean, so for people who have Jesse to that episode. Yeah. You were on the phone. I was your sister and her partner and You were trying to you hadn't spoken this person on the phone for a very long time. You were trying to take a call in the car. And you

53:07
should totally ask her. Yeah.

53:11
Yeah, if you get her on the show, that'd be great. Because it's funny siblings have interesting fights for me with my brother James, who he's an exercise scientists and lives in North Carolina. And human I had a big blow up about six years ago about the future of Fitbit. I think the future of what

53:28
Fitbit was Fitbit, the watch is my point. But

53:34
my point, my point

53:37
is, yeah, so that was my point. So my point was, James was my brother was saying that it's gonna be a rat. Yeah, it's gonna be around for ages and that sort of thing. My thought was that with Apple and all these, this was just when Apple came out with the first Apple Watch. I was like, with all these different things in the market, I think that we're going to see better technologies and I think that Fitbit haven't necessarily invested Enough innovation beyond a pedometer that all what what is it called? We're moving no pedometer. It's a no no gyroscope, no other word the kaleidoscope? No, it's not helpful. It's a gyro gyroscope, maybe? I don't know, it's whatever is in the iPhone. You remember when you got the first ever iPhone, and you download the beer app and you would like moving around and you pretend to drink beer?

54:29
I think it is. The jar

54:32
if you look it up specifically. So you can actually track movement. So a pedometer or whatever is just two steps step. So the thing that it's doing is it's using like algorithms and stuff to work out. Is this a big step? Is this a small step those types of things. My thought was that Fitbit hadn't necessarily invested enough in the innovation technology and they were going to end up going more into the accessories space. I building out watches and Things like that. And I thought that Apple which is sort of what's happened is they're getting into the heart, the heart rate stuff with the what's the what's the heart DJECJ all that sort of stuff. Anyway, the great thing is you we can have a look at 97 Keyshia Cole, your brother right now. I can say. So I do need that. But

55:22
if you type in Fitbit stock.

55:25
So the stock price Fitbit is a publicly listed company. James thought they had a great future. I thought they'll fact Can you go What was the price five years ago?

55:35
When they IPOs $32 50 grammes

55:39
and now it's $3.

55:42
Yeah, right. Right.

55:44
Yeah. And so the interesting thing is when it becomes so

55:49
convoluted and clouded and all that sort of thing, AA is there still is

55:56
in North Carolina,

55:57
literally at his wedding in North Carolina. The wearing a Fitbit. It probably was but the wedding photographer was getting a photo of the whole family and the lady taking the photos photographer said say something funny to make everyone laugh and my dad said house Fitbit. Which got us all laughing Jana secretly so gritting his teeth, not happy. Anyway, so hopefully you can move on from there. The car incident sounds like it

56:27
in process pretty quickly

56:29
in your eyes.

56:31
Yeah, he moved to LA.

56:32
It still had it. Yeah, it's

56:34
a funny one is it because like, I understand her point of view, but it was also it wasn't just like the thing that I did that was wrong, or whatever. But it was kind of how I felt like I was treated

56:48
in that moment. So you don't mind if we speak to Georgina and bring it up?

56:52
Go for it. Okay, go for it.

56:55
Love your perspective on this because Tommy and I were arguing about this on Thursday.

57:01
Apple Watch Samsung

57:06
know, very quickly, I was walking across a road got halfway through the intersection walking, and a car, not giving away drove past me, nearly hit me. And I gave the character of a knock with my fist which got the guy to slam on his brakes nice. And there was a conversation with him and also they all worked out fine. Tommy was, I think what you were saying Green Man. So it was one of those situations where there was no lights. It's like a stop sign. Right? But pedestrians always have the right of way especially at the end of it like it's at the intersection like it's at that cross bit. It's designed for that. Australia it's pretty wild America they very much they'll fucking stop because they don't know like,

57:52
yeah, Canada is the same way they'll stop. It's like you

57:56
like 100 metres away? Yeah, I'll see someone walking Tommy had a bit of pushback in regards to how I handled it mostly what was your pushback was you don't know you have handled yourself that could have been a by key obviously.

58:12
How many times I've done it too many times where I've acted based on just feeling the emotion straightaway and then in hindsight thought I could have been fucking really bad if that person was it absolute so I'd say was so

58:25
he was essentially hind citing me.

58:28
You just go Yeah,

58:29
probably not.

58:31
Probably not that

58:32
you do it. I loved it. Now. I came in I was so happy I caught me so nice.

58:38
This guy he was it was

58:41
trying to get me to come back it was all Yeah, I don't know. I've got a photo of he's number five.

58:46
He had the daily talk show jumper on

58:48
I was wondering I wonder if he listened to it and they would probably make him feel even more if he saw him I sort of laughing would you do how

58:56
would react like that every time I think but like i Yeah, I think I

59:01
Yeah, sometimes I definitely would

59:03
hit the car. You'd hit the car. Yeah, just let them know. Yeah.

59:06
Yeah. So a little love tap. I think I have Yeah.

59:12
It's a little like, Yeah, fuck you.

59:15
Open your heart sometimes. Somebody

59:21
Yeah. And it didn't hurt his car. The thing is he's in a big fucking car. I'm just me. It was having to go about my fucking airport. I could see him come like, it's not like I wasn't aware of his defence. He was having to go to the airport. Yeah, he sent me got me

59:35
out of my building the other day, and I was on my phone and kind of like, walking in then I think I was texting and then nearly bumped into someone in the building. And I was like, Oh, sorry, I didn't, didn't say that. And then she kind of gave me a little bit of a lecture about like, Oh, yeah, you guys are always on your phones.

59:53
Be like who's you guys? Yes. Like this person.

59:58
Probably 60 SX So

1:00:01
you guys are just the younger generation.

1:00:03
Yeah, that's what I felt. That's definitely what I felt. And I was just like, okay, that,

1:00:08
you know, I wasn't going to actually run into you or anything, like, settle down, but

1:00:15
definitely. He definitely took

1:00:17
a moment to just be like, he's a little lecture.

1:00:20
Yeah, sure. How did you react?

1:00:29
I think I just did that get such

1:00:31
a reaction. I think that's your walking frame. Yeah. It's pretty funny. No.

1:00:37
I mean, because she was walking, so I couldn't have been a car. So I adapted. I made it a little bit of a call back. Yeah, exactly.

1:00:45
And so what was your response to you, sir? I didn't respond. And then I think I walked away and thought about how many different comebacks I could have had.

1:00:52
Yeah. And she's a neighbour. I said this.

1:00:55
You've got your work. What would have you guys? She's watching what do you want to say? probably would have back cold or cold her on her behaviour straightaway because I realised that she wanted to just have a lecture. So I'm probably something just like the big lecture right now. Thanks.

1:01:14
Is that passive aggressive debt? Yeah, she is. It's really it's

1:01:19
twisting. twisting the knife

1:01:21
is tricky is tricky, like because

1:01:24
when when someone takes a little nip, I used to be really good at like, just taking a bite back Yeah, but now I don't really do that but

1:01:32
sometimes you can't

1:01:33
help it because someone's just gone.

1:01:35
I wonder if I'm more sort of

1:01:38
willing to bite back based on this new vegetarian white maybe that's part of the whole your convergence got Yeah, girl. Yeah, maybe there is something because if you think about it,

1:01:49
BK who

1:01:52
is vegetarian he was very quickly vegan. Very critical of our we were giving away a ham last year. He gets a bit bit angry about it. But also the other thing to the other day when you guys were, I didn't realise it but you were bullying me about my pizza. And he literally Yeah, he said, this is bullying. I came back and started biting my actually I like this whole being a vegetarian and having all my main fuckin angry. So this is fun. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, it was good fun what's

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good about something like this is like it's a good space because we like watching conflict so and listening to it. So you guys bullying each other?

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Safe Space is great for

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business and probably a good environment to let it out. Yeah. And then in the real world, you can be kind.

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Yeah, well worth that bit.

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But I know I appreciate the

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what you would come back to with that 60 year old lady because yeah.

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I want to ask How was how was having Andy lay on the show?

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Yeah, these guys are you Excuse me? You talk you introduced Andy to his

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identity was there

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you just say no you like that storey the last time you were telling us about it.

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It happened to the cow was there when he emailed to back

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basically this Yeah. Do you enjoy them? Yes. I greatly. Yeah.

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I was just like he's flirting with you Like if you do not and she's like, no, I yeah, I called it.

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Yeah, yeah. So he's amazing.

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I can imagine you're on one of those like 22 one shows, you know where they do like, talking heads, or whatever, like the top relations guy.

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And he's great

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to listen to. They're

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not yet guys for an hour and 15 minutes or something. It's quite long. It's actually I met Sarah

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Yes, I met her and then we got chatting and then I didn't know about yet. Like she's the producer and stuff. And then I listened to her podcast

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greatness.

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Yeah, yeah. And I've listened to a few of her episodes now. And I listened to the one with Hamish and was really cool to listen to him on a podcast. It's not his and kind of get a, you know, like a bit more of

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a bit more of a series Jake. Yeah,

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yeah. And like he's quite mindful. And just like the energy that those guys have seems to be like, pretty, pretty great. Very positive. And absolutely,

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yeah. I mean, they're a good example of people who have like, found success. Probably not. I don't think hey, Mitch, or Andy would punch a car. You don't just think well, especially. So we're not there yet. We can say,

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I don't know the lecture, old lady.

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didn't say that.

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The old lady

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punches the ladies and

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gentlemen, I can imagine that any other podcasts that you Listening to

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I sometimes listen to Russell brands on luminary because I've switched to heaven. Maybe not see just getting through the free episodes there. It's just the free episode. Yeah, I've done it. really that

1:05:15
good friend of mine, Kelsey Grant has a podcast called the power couple podcasts and it's more on like loving relationships. And it's awesome. Like, they have like, a lot of knowledge in that space. So it's really cool. She's in a power couple. Is she she is in a power couple. Yeah. Yeah, we have a strain based on Canada, Canada, Vancouver. Yeah. And what's another one I've been listening to?

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Yes, Arizona's really cool. And listening to that one a bit recently.

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What about you guys, anything else?

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Have I listened? I haven't been consuming much at all. I'm going to I Chase Jarvis actually. some reason I've just stumbled back onto his

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was that an armchair

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expert? No. Yes, he's got that one. Which is like He's he does a film one or the film.

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He's got like a YouTube show that he then puts on to the podcast. And he did one with Bernie brown that was filmed and put on it. So he's done to chat with her listen to that. And I'm looking forward to his one with Seth Godin that just came out

1:06:14
super nice that she was burnt out. Did she? Oh, yes. Wasn't three months or whatever, I need to read the I got something out of this. Like,

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what? I think that she's, she's kind of like quite a sensitive soul and

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up. I don't know if this is true, but maybe

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a bit of an introvert. So then, like doing the TED Talk, when that blew up, I think that really threw her and then she had come back from that. Yeah. And then kept and she's just keeps, like getting bigger and bigger. And I think that that that's hard to deal with. I we kind of talked about that last time, but I think she's, it's hard to know how some people especially like it's tough to deal with that much exposure,

1:06:53
there's a price to fame. Yeah, I've been thinking about like this small thing of having Episode 500 and having 100 people that we've interacted with in some way, but they're not necessarily know all this stuff about us. And like that interaction is quite just do white boys. Just you wait.

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Oh, yeah, you say yeah, because it's a they know, personal things about us.

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Well, no, but yeah. And also you want to be like

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this. It's almost a piece. It's almost like you've been on the phone with someone, but they haven't necessarily been talking. So there are people that like, we have great connections with on social media and stuff. But then there's the other portion of people who listen, but aren't necessarily interacting. And so that's an interesting thing. Have you met many of those people that kind of fans?

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Know, listeners,

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just spoken on email? Yeah.

1:07:45
You haven't had many interactions and

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they will never know we've never had anyone first event first.

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I mean, other than people who come into the studio, like we've got

1:07:54
some great people, but they're all like them. They become part of the show like Alex. She's our Baker. She's making a cake for us

1:08:01
for our 500th Yeah. Oh, nice. Yeah. So yeah, definitely coming in a

1:08:07
little corner for you where you can be doing autographs

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now running a little.

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And yeah, what is it? Yes. And if

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you want to an improv,

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it'd be great to do it. Should we maybe re look at the improv alive?

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Now I just be criticised do I bring enough

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such a thing is that 97 was giving

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it well I thought thanks. Really? Yeah, all honesty. Well, you gotta

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feed feedback was fair, or was he just doing a bit of gear?

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I thought was either one

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photo can be delivered with a bit more compassion. I mean,

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it all might. It sort of breaks of those reality shows where they have to sort of play that the hard time, you know, Matt Preston on or do you like Dicko on Australian Idol season one, just being distracted. spewing out

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our dicks and they came out they

1:09:04
actually look like being kind is writing Really? Yeah, let's

1:09:08
make people be nice. I haven't watched master chef in a while so I was struggling to work out who the villain is

1:09:14
there is an audience for look at Gordon Ramsay. I love watching people now, like I

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think I saw I saw a

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I just don't get it because we're like there's so many shows. He's done so many shows. I

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literally saw a video of him the other day hugging, he was in a village and he's hugging like he's done a 185

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he he's more

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he was always kind of crying but I thought on the

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flip at it, but then he loves you and wants to help you so he's all he was always trying to help these paper

1:09:44
Kitchen Nightmares. He's basically going and helping people and that's pretty good. As a lot

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of idiots he says like you're an idiot. Yeah, you're not listening to me.

1:09:54
It goes off. Bit does that take away if you call someone account is that take away from everything that you do. NC bomb on this

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is entertainment value.

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Explicit. I mean yeah

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nice you're worried about the C word and he did

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he did the

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dishes and the fucking sound effects of here what

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we're trying to say you how many listeners we can lose and so then you sort of the crane goes to the top. It's all the grace that stay who can deal with the sort of the bullshit. I think that's what's been happening with it.

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It's after cream. Cream is what you want what we want. Because I'm vegetarian or vegan. I can have green. I

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still am Thank you Matt for coming back on the show.

1:10:43
Nice. Thanks for having go. Tick Tick Tock. You've done two videos. It's really blown. Can you do one? Can you do one that's specific around something that happened on today's show as a third one that I'll have much

1:10:54
I'll ever think if I can think of something funny. Yeah. Can you guys think of any

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facial reaction to a an old lady today? you for being on your phone. Oh, yeah, that the same thing like that. Just have someone be the woman

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and the phone but you could do that and you could even do it near the lift. And be fucking great.

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Yeah. Really good. I'll have a think about

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something I'll definitely consider.

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Yeah. Have you ever done a dab? I don't think I have done it. That's right.

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Yeah. And the reason I believe in this already

1:11:34
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