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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 478. Happy Monday. What's happening guys? Look not much, which is why we decided to call three day deal.

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Well, it's Monday in Australia and it's Sunday in Canada. Good ideal.

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Yeah. Sunday night 910 9:10pm

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at night burning the midnight oil. Wow, this is our first official checking on the show. We've spoken to face time bunch of times since you've gone. How are you, buddy?

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I'm tired. But I'm good.

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I'm good. What do you

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Why am I tired about everything life? school?

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still figuring it out?

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Yeah.

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And so for people who have just joined, listening to the or watching the daily talk show in the past month or so, three day deal, spent four months in Australia, interning with us. And now he's back to reality. What are you doing in regards to coffee? I mean, you had a bit of an obsession in Melbourne. What's it? What's it like over there?

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It's not the same. I'll start with that. It's not the same. I've got a curate coffee maker at my house right now, which gets the job done. But it literally just broke about 30 minutes ago. And

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making a batch.

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Yeah, I'm in the process of trying to fix that. And it's not going too well at the moment. So might have to get a went to went to a grocery store. We have a grocery store called mangoes, here in Canada.

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And they had a coffee press there. So I

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show the show the lady working at the coffee section the video. You guys did she she was eyeing a black, which is No you won't have this, you won't have a problem at all using using this one. So

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how many times have you brought up your thumb and your coffee press injury since you've been back?

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More than more than 10 times?

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How many times have you sat people down to watch that video

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20 Plus,

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amazing brings up 10 times he found a whole bunch of people that didn't bring up to but he made them sit down and watch. We were talking before you left about the stark reality of returning to normal life. Because I certainly wasn't normal life for you. What happened in that first week or two? When you got back?

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It was kind of weird. Like

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because I was I was so used to just the routines that I had when I was in Australia, wake up, go to the coffee shop walk around, whether we'd be at work or if it was a weekend just go up and kind of get lost somewhere. So coming back to places where I could I could just drive to get something was it was just it was it was very strange. Is it true that you smashed your parents car? Three days after returning? It wasn't three days it was less than 24 hours. And I didn't crash the car. I completely destroyed the rocker panel on

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the rocket panel was a penalty useful?

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I don't know you obviously need it. How much am I lost? And what sort of damage $800? And it's not right. So how did you

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get a visual? visually? Can you tell that you're

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physically dented, and then paints basically all scratched off of it? So it's coming off thing and like there's screws that hold the rocker panel into the chassis of arc. And I missed damaging the chassis by about an inch and a half ago. Yeah. And so how did it even happen? I'm in a parking.

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I'm going around a corner. Yeah. And it's a very it's a very wide corner and me

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not having driven a car in four months. I'm like, Oh, I I got this. So I started going around the corner, and I turned way too hard. And then all of a sudden the whole right side of the car just tilts up that way. Oh shit.

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That's not good with anyone in the car.

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Yeah, so it's one of my best friends and she kind of freaks out she goes, you need to get off the curb now. Right I put my foot down as hard as I can. You hear the tire screeching. And then the front wheel comes off the curb. And then you just hear this loud, just just, and that was the sound of the rocker panel getting into your

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shit.

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And so your first couple of weeks back, obviously people, you speaking to your other colleagues, I mean, your other uni friends and what they did? I mean, did you ever listen to what they did? Or he just taught him? You did?

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I listened because I was genuinely interested. And I didn't want to be the guy that was like, oh, what did you do? I went to

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IJ I wanted to know and like my roommate Zach did his at a at a hot rod shop. So he was building hot rods all summer. That was pretty dope, right? Other people did like stuff with digital marketing and making plush toys, which was kind of cool. And then I had friends who were working in like really high end furniture design companies making like really expensive, like $7,000 chairs and couches. What do you notice? Do you like what do you look at most fondly of about your time in Australia that you couldn't necessarily see when you were here. But now that you're gone? You notice it? Like something that may be something that I took for granted when I was there and now that I don't have that? Yeah. Other than other than AU 79 Coffee?

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I don't know it's a tough one.

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I kind of want to say it, but I don't like you, you guys and Mason.

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You can say you can be nice.

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Yeah, no, I yeah, I'd say that.

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Yeah. And you're so you're working on a thesis at the moment.

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I quickly what did you teach us say? Would you you need lectures say? Did they stay in touch with the journey?

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Yeah, so more than I was aware of, actually. So I've got I've got five classes this semester, and seven, seven or eight different props across these classes. And first day of school, I go into my thesis class because I was my first class at 8am. Sit down in class, and one of this one of the profs walks in and goes, it's three DDL in front of everybody like everybody in the classes,

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you would have did that.

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mean maybe that was just writing a T shirt. And

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they, they were pretty, pretty impressed with it all. And they thought it was kind of funny, too. So what did you do? Well, so yeah, but I had a lot of fun. That's what I did.

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Yeah. And with anyone that you hang out with, it was listening that you didn't realise that was listening to the show?

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Uh, not really, because most of my friends like when they would listen, they would send me like a video or a Snapchat or a photo of it saying, Yeah, listen, listening to you on the podcast. So I knew pretty much most of the people that I'm like most of my friends, but a lot of my friends parents started listening to, which was kind of funny. I

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had spoken to you, maybe two weeks after you got back and I asked if you'd been listening, and you said, No, because of you. It sort of brought up some PTSD.

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It was it was still in like the first week. Yeah, the first week of school. So I was like trying to do school and then listening to some podcasts, but not the daily talk show because it felt too weird. Yeah, because listen, listening to the daily talk show when I was in school, was exactly where I had started, like six months ago. And it was just it was a very strange mindset. But, uh, I gotta start it out now. So you've started listening again. I'm on like, 464 or something like that.

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Any any feedback?

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Sounds good. That's good. That was less Canadian. But

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yeah. And so you're that back to the the thesis stuff. Tommy and I have never done a thesis in our lives. Never plan on doing one couldn't spell it. TH. He says WSWS in their single s to ss UTESIS. Yeah, so you're doing a thesis? What does that actually mean?

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To be quite honest, I don't really know what it means it's a, it's basically what separates our programme, like our school programme from a diploma. So like, in seven months, I'll get a bachelor's degree of industrial design, where and that is due in part to having a thesis project. But the thesis is basically a eight month 32 week comprehensive project where you go into research based design, ergonomic based design, and you're, you're trying to find a, like a proper problem definition you have to solve, then going through all the nitty gritty parts of it to get from the problem to a design solution. So

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as it turns out, you're redesigning the coffee press. That'd be great. I

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mean, I would, but it seems a little risky.

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So what is it? When you were here, you were talking about? You wanted to go to some red dirt, parts of Australia, which we never got to based on, you're talking about this whole thesis thing?

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Yeah. So like, over the summer, we had for the four months over the summer, we had the task of coming up with 10 to 15. Problem definitions, that's what they identify it and classic. That's how they're marking it is your problem definitions. And you're basically the idea is to cast a broad net so that you can then narrow in and focus on a specific topic and focus that as much as you possibly can. So I was just trying to get a whole bunch of different ideas and identifying different problems over the summer that I could then bring back, bring back to school. So what were they? Oh, you want me to list them all? Well, yeah, well, so you were that on that Red Dust thing? Was there something to do with like mobility or something, it was promoting? safe, like physically safe and sustainable travel in remote environments, such as the outback, because when a lot of like a lot of people go, say driving through Death Valley in California or across the outback, they're taking an RV, or a truck or something. And that has obviously a lot of negative impacts on the environment. So how can you do that in a way that is physically safe for you, the driver, or the operator of whatever it is? Whatever solution you come up with, in a sustainable way that doesn't have a negative environmental impact. So if that if that was a thesis topic, you that I have to identify who your user is, what are their needs? What products already exist on the market? And why can your solution be better than those products? what's working, what's not working, ergonomic valuation, etc, etc, etc.

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That's a lot to think about. To be honest. I'm just thinking about how long a chicken can stay frozen the freezer for how long? I'm trying to work it out. Got some balls in the Fraser chicken balls. Can we work at right now? how long they long after? Can I hit them? Because they've been in there? Probably about two months already.

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Well, that was the thing that you brought. You went through my fridge the other day, and what you're pointing things saying that could be frozen that could be frozen.

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That was more your leftovers that you plan to been when you could have like cooked it separated, Frozen, and then had those for later.

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Is it raw, frozen.

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cooked, roll through? Okay,

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how long we got Mr. not cooked is two to six months. Yep. two to six big difference for two. Okay, so two to six. Different from two to six. Oh,

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and what point beyond to do you go, I believe from five months that he's the Death Valley.

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And there's a faces to be done on that.

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Deal. what it was when you were here you were you had a lot of burgers. You had a lot of

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you're still looking you still looking at the you were

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I mean you always skinny fat.

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But you're not ripped and rock hard. Yeah.

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Yeah. viscerally like your your organs are covered. We can't say

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your liver is a piece of fat. Yeah.

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And so. Yeah, on a scale of

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Mr. 97 to fatty liver. how healthy are you?

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halfway, Mr. 97, the fatty liver. I can Yeah,

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yeah. So what is your diet in Canada right now?

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dying Canada. Well, I had a Bhutan yesterday, which was phenomenal. That was like the first unhealthy meal that I've had since I've been back. Really?

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I don't believe that.

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I can't, I can't afford like, unhealthy food. And healthy food

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is what about like macros and

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stuff? Now let's discuss what a bad chocolate bars I still have a Hey, Tiger chocolate.

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Really? I mean, you bought 40 of them. If you only got 339.

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You gave a lot. I gave them all away. good faith.

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good faith, everybody. Everybody loves them. That's good. say, oh, where can I get it said Australia. And then they look at it and the shipping is just ridiculously expensive.

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Shipping food internationally is

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hard work. It's very hard one. So what have you been dreaming dreaming of? Since you've been back? Have you got any aspirations in the works?

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I mean, I haven't really been dreaming of anything because I really haven't slept since I got back. But I'm aspirations. Wow.

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Do you have an announcement that you made when you're the announce deal? announcements? torvill? Yes.

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Yeah, he's just waiting to secure when I'm making any of my announcements.

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waiting to see what Josh make something. Yeah. Okay. What can I come up with? Its gonna destroy what's the chance that episode five hundred all the sudden,

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it just comes out of that I use 79 kitchen.

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That'd be funny. So you, I missed this. But you put somewhere that you had an announcement.

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Three day deal told me said I've got a announcement relating to three day deal. Yes, it was talking in third person. He's separated himself as a character. And did I say? Yes, yes. I think I've got it in text messages. You said that in December. You've got a three day deal related announcement?

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I do remember that. But I don't think you don't remember this. 3d deal related.

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I want to check this

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one. So when you been drinking?

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Have you been? I mean, so when the day before you left? You and I had a long walk through Fitzroy gardens and you were you were talking about? Think I'm going to switch off social media? How How has that been? Have you done it?

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Well, I mean, I think in that context, we were talking about not buying Wi Fi on the plane. I didn't get I didn't get Wi Fi on the plane. But I've significantly reduced the amount of time I've spent on Instagram since being back part of that is consciously Yeah, because I don't want to be spending a whole lot of time on Instagram. But also be it's either I can spend time on Instagram or I can then not finish stuff I have to do for school and I want to I want to finish school on a good note. So it's like between Instagram and school. I'm going to pick school every time. But it has you know when sometimes.

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But not I have reduced the amount of

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like social media usage.

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Have you been damning many people?

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I've gotten quite a few DMS from people who have dm the podcast before saying like, hope you're settling back in Canada. All right. And like we miss hearing you on the show. Ian trainer reached out and said hope all as well. And Hayden did. Of course, Campbell James. All the good people.

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Yes, I Nice. Yeah. And have you ever thought about what life is going to be like once you finish school? And how long have you got left?

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I've got as of today? I've got seven months left of school.

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Oh, that's how long?

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Yeah. It's less than double the amount of time that you spent here.

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Yeah, it's one month less yet and Trixie with it?

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Yeah. Is that not a good number? I mean, yeah, it's

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one month less than double the amount of time. Yeah, I was I had

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to stretch to get to that equation.

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I was just trying to reference it back to us.

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So anyway, yeah, we tweet life after uni. For a lot of people. Karen did the room. We've got a young Karen here. What's that? What's for you? After uni? Karen, what have you got planned? I don't know, the most most of the response of university

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students. So Karen, you do some video stuff with us. You helped film? When Miss 97 goodies hair bleach. A you is this first first year uni? Yeah. Yeah. And when you see now that you've spent the time here, what's what's the things that stand out in regards to what you want to do once you finish?

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I don't know. Obviously. I want to have a break from the union. I'm working. Yeah. And just like enjoy life in general. And then figure out what I want to do for the rest of my life. Yeah.

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Big thing to figure out to be honest. Yeah. To be.

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I mean, yeah, that idea of Did you ever take any break from school?

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No, I went straight from high school into college. Uh huh. Yeah, I mean, a lot of people definitely rank I was like, two months at the summit.

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wasn't much of a break. Mr. 97. You've got a mate who's deferred. uni was Jay says

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he's, he's doing like one unit

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per semester. So he's doing one unit per semester. Right? He's pushing his degree to nine years now.

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If you're pushing degree out to nine years, is that fair to say? It's not happening.

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Yeah, like, that's, that's one thing. Okay. So not going to name names. But there's a there's a individual in the programme now, who started the programme, the programme that I'm about to finish. I'm finishing this programme in 2020. So basically, when you say is individual individuals started in 2012. Yeah. Right. So severely, yeah, sure. Well, no, like, eight going on, like going into her eighth year now. Okay. Yeah. She would she ideally would have graduated. I just yeah. April 20.

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You just given it.

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But she's done the thing where she takes like, one class per semester. But it's somehow continuously failed these classes from the to show up in the first place. Yeah, sure. You don't want it? You don't want to be that person that takes one class?

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Yeah. I mean, I mean, it's so low. I guess you gotta ask why? why are you doing it? Karen? Why? Why do you feel that you're doing your you? What is your degree? What

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I should have designed is your media.

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And what do you think? Like, what do you get out of it? Do you think?

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Just exposure to different media and journal? And

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it was a bad thing, wasn't it? Sorry, there's just a career outside I think, sound like a building, but we're fun.

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And it was you to work with other people in order to feel?

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Yeah, it's, I mean, deal. how diverse is your actual course? Like, are you doing stuff? Should we check that?

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Check? He's got a window rather than just looking like a standard cat.

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Can you hear the banging? Do?

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Yeah. Sounds Sounds like it's right outside the

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door into

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the throwing pallets onto the truck?

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Yeah, that does sound like that's the sacred deal? Is the Is it a diverse range of media stuff? Or do you think it's pretty specific?

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It's I would say for for what I'm doing is pretty specific. It's, it's a lot of stuff geared towards what an industrial designer with us in the industry. So there's like, there's 3d modelling software, there's digital sketching, and then there's the whole Adobe Suite set of stuff. But we don't we don't touch, like film, or anything like videography or even photography, they don't touch on that at all.

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So is this your third year deal? or fourth now? or four? Okay, can do you have any question for someone who's on their fourth year and seeing what he's done? Do you have any questions specific to looking into the future of where he's at?

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Is it is you're in the final years? Or is it harder?

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Like it's a lot harder, it's a lot harder.

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It's harder in a different way, though. Because I think when you're when you're in your first year, and I think this goes for college, or university, kids in general, think your first year you're still trying to figure out who you are. And what you actually want to do is like so so many of my friends started a programme and then dropped out after a year because it wasn't for them. So it's a hard time figuring out whether or not it is the right thing for you to continue pursuing for another 3456 years.

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It's almost like relationships, like when you when you first start a relationship for the first couple of years, just sort of like, it could be a very small thing. Where that will trigger a point of like, do I want to be in relationship or not? But once you've been in a relationship for 12 years, all of a sudden, like, it's going to take a very big thing to say, Yeah,

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right. All that I think I mean, for all relationships, it's a different period of time can be a year before you work that Yeah. And so this is a waste of time, if I'm not going to, if we're moving forward, all those things get taken off the table. I think the biggest shift, though, is the life after uni. Because there's a whole new challenge of what is life look like now? What is my structure look like now? And how do I actually use what I'm doing? Like my brother did the industrial design course. And he ended up leaving before the end, and then finished it, you know, after the fact. But he got a job. And then now like, what he's in is a sales role within the industry that utilises industrial design. Yeah. So it's like his degree. He's not, you know, he's done the industrial design thing, designing helmets and shit for the Tour de France and callsign. But now, he's not an industrial designer. And so it's there has to be some level of being fluid, and flexible in what you end up doing. Because these programmes aren't fluid or flexible in what you end up becoming. Because they set out to give you a degree in Industrial Design, which is x y&z there's a pathway. That's the hard thing about university that I struggle with is this specific pathway to do X y&z

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auto industry specific thing to them. It's almost like people who say I want to work in radio, I'm sort of a similar thing we're taught you, you learn all the different bits, and then you say, Okay, I want to do this part of it and all that part. Karen, do you feel that you're still in your first year? Are you asking yourself, do I want to finish the course?

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Yeah, why did you finish the course. Okay,

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so But does it ever come up as a question in regards to Am I on the right path? Do I want to do it?

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Yeah. Because infest you, we have to do all different media. And right now I'm conflicted between different specialisations.

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So do you have to pick a specialisation? Okay, and what's it between which, which we can decide for?

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Well, right now, it's between digital video and environment. Okay. 3d modelling AR stuff. And just video

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can show just video that's hurtful. It's just, video was a good skill to have a lot

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of people understanding video, I was looking yesterday at how much a police officer gets paid. I think he said, like,

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I guess 35 grand.

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So it's like a rookie, a junior, or something for the first six months, within, you know, is like a is 50 something. And then it goes to like 69,700. And you get like, cool. You get like seven weeks of annual leave for a Mac as it becomes a job. Like that's a clear occupation where you do your job, and you get your time off. And you get remunerated accordingly. And it's like good government benefits. Whereas a lot of these new occupations of video and industrial design, I mean, industrial design is not new, but where you end up placing in the work environment. So different, like, we don't know yet, like what you don't know where your skills will be used as industrial designer in the modern day workplace workforce. Whereas I think reason I was looking and interested is because it's so clear. It's not like they have just doing the job, Rocky, it's it's almost the closest thing to the industrial era. Yeah. of you know, being on that part of the line, the working line, the police force is seems quite clear. And

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so, Karen,

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you conflicted based on is the i three days? Is it less clear? What jobs or what job you could do in that field?

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No, it's because I know, I am good at video. And I know my way around it, but 3d stuff is something completely different. And I really like it. And but then the coding stuff is like just outrageously really bad.

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Yeah. I don't know. So. And so is that is the 3d stuff. Does that require the coding?

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No, but the making of the games and stuff, it requires coding?

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Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it, because I feel like, throughout my life, I've gravitated towards things that I'm terrible at, and said, I'm gonna, like, I'm going to work this out, like, coding, there's been so many times where I've, like, downloaded all the software, and I've like, set it all up, I'm like, I'm gonna build a website, I'm just gonna work it out. And then I get into a photo to remember 97, that literally happened. Like,

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I'm just like, I go,

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I could just get someone else that who Yeah,

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because you can't, you don't, you can't live in the process of it. Because the process is not what you enjoy. So there's things that are hard that you can enjoy being in the process. But I

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guess that's what's exciting about being a student, or being in that space is there's no expectation for you to have your thing. You can be experimenting. And like, I guess there's, say, within, even within the video space, for me, I bought, there was a piece of software called shake. And it was a compositing software. And it was like the software that all of the the big motion picture like studios would use when it came to like, like compositing. So that would be like, would be like,

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like making a squeegee disappear into

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Yeah, exactly like Frodo scoping, or doing all sorts of things, you know, all that sort of stuff. And the software went from costing, like $30,000, Apple bought it, and they made it like 800 bucks to buy. And so I bought it, I bought the software, I'm like, I'm gonna learn this. And it was node based. And so like, it was like a completely, completely different way of working. And so that's an example of where the coding mindset actually works really well with the video stuff. But

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the person who wins in any of these is the one that like just just can spend eight hours and not realise that they just spend died out. It's the equivalent for me with video I spent, I can spend up to like, when early days, probably not now, because I'm two hours. Or I cannot or I'm optimise my 1000 to whichever way like looking at it, but I can spend it in the Edit. And so then it's like, that's a signal of the thing that I can just do. And being that is difficult, that brings value to somebody else. And it's hard when you're a unit because it's not. It doesn't seem for me, it's like I don't see the result in terms of my progression or it being a job where I'm being remunerated for doing this. It's a hard one,

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because not using actual, like proper marketing brushes. Yes. Not like actually, if I do this thing, I'm going to make this money or it's going to help whereas like, Karen, you're really good at a bunch of the video stuff. And that's because like, you've been paid to do the video thing before. And so it's like, I need to work out this thing and it's actually solving this exact problem. We got an email from Kyle Richardson. Our homie Kyle, he says he emailed us I think in like early two hundreds

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Yeah, early two hundreds and anyway, said hi gronk I've recently quit my job at mockers and Lyft. University Judo, Atlanta due to landing a new job working for bendy go back. The community is an hour which allows me to come back to listening to the daily talk show, which I've been wanting to do for a while. I mean, that's a full time in itself. So we get it car. Thanks. Thanks for finding an occupation that allows you to let the gronk sin into your life, you blow to answer my question on episode 270. And I appreciate it. I've seen the graphs that have been shared showing your podcast viewership increasing, and it's really motivating to see how far you guys have come constantly working hard on the podcast, blah, blah, blah, more pumping of appetisers. I have a question for you. gronk, which is what I wanted to get to. I'm interested in starting your YouTube channel where I plan on writing, recording and uploading educational entertaining videos on topics that I have a desire in researching and learning about. I've always wanted to create content. However, I never seem to know where to get started, or have the motivation to begin. How do you get started in your creative endeavours. Thanks for reading the email came up the good work. Your homie Kyle, I added that last week. But yeah, I think I think the motivation thing is, I would struggle to find the starting power to be doing it in an environment where there isn't the market pressures or all those kinds of things?

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Well, I think also the problem now is it's like, everything is really tangible and obvious. And so it's like, you can have a YouTube channel, it can blow up and do a lot. So thing, when I started doing video, there was none of that sort of stuff. So you're purely doing it out of the love of working out, like being creative and making the thing. And so not saying that Kyle doesn't have those things, but it can be overshadowed with the destination, YouTube seems accessible. And so because it seems accessible, you can then can say, I want to do that. Whereas when you watch a Hollywood film, you never It seems so far away, you don't think that you could necessarily be a Hollywood director until you do all these other steps. And so I guess that's part of it is it's stripping back that destination, stripping back the I want a YouTube channel, I want this, I want that and focusing on what the actual processes which is, I am going to do a video diary. Like Kyle a great thing to do could be to put up a GoPro and say for the final 10 minutes of my trip on the way home, I'm going to do a video blog where I just talked to camera about my experiences. And then at the end of the year, you could look back and see the progress that you've made a year.

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And I think if you look at anyone who is successful on YouTube, it's and then reverse engineer that. It's like they're the nerds in their field. Right Matt? Dave LA is a filmmaking nerd who likes minimalism, you know, he lives this life. And so he that's his existence. And the sort of byproduct of that comes this video at the

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end of having less pressure I think on the whole so it's like it's the thing that I hated as a kid which was like everyone's got an iPhone or everyone's got like back then it was like everyone's got like a camcorder at home. Yeah, yeah, pick it up and use it.

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But not everyone likes doing that

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or is that right? Which is like sequel equivalent of saying I think I need a podcast I want to do podcasting, but then not actually enjoying having deep conversations.

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Yeah, yeah, I think for us the finding the momentum in doing this many episodes has been an enjoyment in actually sitting down to have a conversation. Because I have never done that. I've never done this with pumping out a video as much as I talked about being able to sit for multiple hours, two hours

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Stop bragging. You can do two hours worth of work.

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Phenomenal isn't at a time I'll have a break and then I'll come back for another

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to have any wrecked

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but I'll never

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know to be honest. I was deep work.

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We call that deep work.

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Hyper state work. I mean, could be just be rearranging clips. Does exploiting cat

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it's funny being full KX. Yeah.

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But so. So then what's the answer? How did you get started in your creative endeavours? I think it does come down to like Karen saying universities, you get to try all these things. This is doing a fine landing on a YouTube channel where you can consistently upload. Like you have to go through your own university. Yeah, which is trying to university allows you to try they they assign you projects. That's what I do like about it. It's like forced projects. For me and your you in my life. I've forced myself to do projects, committing to a bunch of logs. You know, I've done that five times. But I've done there five different projects, committing to a bunch of other stuff. The radio stuff for me made me show up. So that was like a forced project.

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But I guess definitely Yeah, yeah, it doesn't have that. It doesn't have the clear outcome that not becoming a police officer where it's like a police officer has to do X y&z to

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get there. I think the advice though, about, which I think a lot of people preach is like, what's the one thing you can do daily, that will get you that will just get you started. And by the end of 60 days, you will have done this one thing daily. That's why

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I think that if you look back at where people have done really well, and what what people YouTube is and where they've come from, heaps of them have come from vine. And I reckon the reason why vine was so successful was because the barrier to entry was so low. Yeah, it was actually just heaps of people doing it. And they were getting better at it now able to build that momentum. How many people have become successful youtubers based on creating a feature length taco, outside, like Dave, Allah is one of the only exotic. So he because you take you look at it, it's like he's taken something that take requires so much effort, and then translated that across to the, you know, doing the YouTube stuff. Whereas Yeah, I think that this, there's something in very, very, very small. And that's why I think Tick Tock is actually an interesting one, because Tick Tock takes a bunch of things off the table, you don't necessarily have to worry about dialogue, you've got these very specific constraints of take this song, take this idea. And I know when I got started, it was all about parodying other people or other things. And so it's like the ultimate version of that. It's like before you before you create your own names, you're probably going to go and steal someone else's name. And then

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yeah,

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I taught and what I was saying about the simplest, the simplistic nature of that advice of do something every single day, something really small. And then over a year, you've done 365 or, you know, showing up three inches is 65 times. The thing about that I feel for us, it's like, if you can hack that and work that at success should be on the other side. Somewhere down the track. I don't know what it looks like. But I feel like it's the hack. If you can hack it, the Casey nice. They're doing a vlog every day for 400 days and him becoming a mega star. It's like he just hacked the consistency. Sure he had all the other stuff. But you're right. The it's it's it is the hack, if there's any is just doing something every single day.

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Going to Los Angeles in a few weeks, part of the plan is for me to sort of get my diet in order, which means I've been drinking more water, which if I look, I've been looking distracted. It's because I'm absolutely busting. So where we are going to finish up. Before we go, Mr. 97 can you give us the LA fact

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of the day? Santa Monica pa was designed as a sewage pump to censor jet to the ocean?

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So is this? Is there a pump there? I mean, you might say it's like a pipe.

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I don't know if it did but yeah, that's going around there.

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Yeah. Okay. I mean, people serve right next to the PN has a nice little sack in a little little break.

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Any final thoughts? Right I do before I kiss my pants.

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No, not not that I can think of.

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We'll have to get back on again soon.

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Absolutely. And when

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he gets back, you're gonna come visit Australia again. He wants to do.

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Oh, I will. I will come visit Australia. Yeah.

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I gotta pay it off first.

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Join the clubs.

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Now. Just double that.

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Yeah, might just go to another bank.

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Doing It Wrong. Good night. I'll be back. You looking healthy. You're looking right. So you've trimmed your Neck Beard. It looks very good. Karen, thank you for coming in as well.

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And Kyle, thanks for the message, man. I think I think if this was some tangible advice, right, at least five different versions of what Josh said. Video door in the car on the way to your job. Yeah, and a bunch of other the and then just pick one and see if you can do it for 30 days. And then just and then do another one for 30 days

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and finding it could even be as simple as I'm going to do one fun Boomerang every single day. Yeah, put it out there. Yeah. Yeah. If you enjoyed the show, feel free to give us a review on Apple podcasts. You can also be like Kyle, you can quit your job and joined Benfica bank or you could also just say malice. Yeah, the I the daily talk. show.com is the email address. Thank you deal. Thank you, Karen. We'll see tomorrow, guys.

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See you guys