- August 2, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Thursday August 2 (Ep 143) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
What happens when JJ gets too tired? He goes full Elon-Musk-slightly-narcissistic-storytelling-mode. Dealing with shit neighbours, the boat experience in Capri and Josh reads the start of his biography.
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conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Johnson and Tommy Lee. Talk Show Episode 143 Tommy jacket. Good morning. Live from the car, left them. The car park got in the car. Josh, the window was damn. Yeah, in the in the back. It was it was freezing, right?
But it was it was down because like it was left
down. Because Bernie and I play a game. He's worked out how he can turn the window, the window down the electric window. And he loses his mind when he does it. He just had his kid a lot alive. It's great.
But if you're in St Kilda, you can't leave your window open and see no, it's actually genius at the back window. And we've got like these shades that go over the window. So
you can't see like, if you're walking he couldn't tell the windows down. But I could tell when I got into the car because it's freezing and and currently you're in Capri sending sending yourself in a pair of crocs
to like Derek I posted that on Instagram. I had, it was a photo of me on a boat. And Derek very quick turnaround. I'll dirty Derek has photoshopped crocs and he's done a very good job of it
is actually unbelievable I had to double take all we do all we just got was an email just slid into our inbox and it said safety first and then I looked at the image and I was like holy shit Josh actually bought a pair crocs and Derek shout out to you might you've got too much now me hands and I really appreciate how much time you have now i know
i think it's it was solid Derek reminds me so much of the you know otherwise just willing to go the extra mile for for again
it's solid I am I've got one of those problems with a neighbor and I'm I reckon I've built out the story my head but he me out here. So I've been a bit passive with one of my neighbors Do you have you've done that? Why?
Because there's a problem with their recycling habits and they rubbish habits and what they're doing. Yeah, and they just lazy, lazy, lazy, I really wanted to say this a word, but I want but it definitely has to be because there's some new neighbors their role in the block. And this is just started happening. So I can only imagine that it's them, right? So you're
using communal bins, and all of a sudden milk cartons are going in the wrong spot. Now, if somebody says
he's one, he's one version of lazy putting, and I get this because I do this. I take everything down in a garbage bag. So all my recycling, I put it into a garbage bag, I take it down to the bin. I then open the garbage bag and pull all of the recycling into the recycle bin. And I'll take the bag back app store it away. Or if it's got shuttle library, I might use it for some rubbish or whatever. Anyway, so that's, that's the prizes they just open the beat, they just open up the recycling bin and dump the garbage bag, the plastic bag you can put those in there straight into the been
and so that's the sordid although
Yeah, so it's been sorted. But they just don't bother to open up the bag and pour it in. So all they've done is just check the whole entire thing. But it's gone on for that. And this is this is the only reason I'm bringing it up. So I came down the other day and I look at the been so there's homeless because it's pretty pretty. It's on the lower level at the moment. That's okay. I came down there's some there's like a recycle bin and a rubbish bin right near our front door, which is the one that gets hit by most tenants because it's closest, and then the other ones are probably another 50 meters away. So people just go straight to that one. But the bin was kind of like getting full. And someone had just put a someone had put a full thing and this it was like a full like shoe. You know, like if you went to some kind of shoe shop and bought a new pair of kicks. I give you like a, you know, a bag or crocs. Yeah, you went to a crock store that gives you like, a nice paper bag that would hold your boxer crocs
instead is just a boxer, boxer, crocs bag full of shit. Like full of recycling just next to the bin. And I just thought
either I'm triggered. Or you tell me what you think I looked at. And I just went fucking lazy pigs. Like there's another been right? 10 meters away. Yeah. And so all they've done is just put this down next to the bin. And so what I thought was like, if you don't do it, so the person if the person doesn't do it, who else is meant to do it? Like he just passing on this annoyance to someone else? Like it's so annoying, it's like and I feel like I've become you know that dad that's like, well, if you are cleaning this up, who is I will Yeah,
I definitely. I definitely understand that I even I know when I had a like a communal office and I was sort of sub you know, we had a few people or leasing and if everyone's not aligned, you just sort of I ended up sort of three miles being like, I'm not going to use the bin I'm going to use it because I just don't want to have to deal with the communion bullshit that is people being lazy so what
I did it was it's a it's a bit passive I took the bag full of shit and I put it up right next to the entrance like the security door to our apartment I just put it there I just put it on like if if I came down and I saw that and I'd done that I think I would probably get that someone is just like right if you're not gonna put it into the been fucking take it away now
i think i think that that's probably where you're wrong I reckon the people who are doing this and a clueless about that aren't going to get your passive hints so only I feel like it becomes this bigger issue because you end up you this fight is going to continue and they're probably never they don't don't give a shit about it. So they're just doing whatever and they'll probably like if they not mindful enough to to do it in the first place. I don't know whether that would even be mindful enough to to know that I yeah, that's my bag and draw that conclusion.
Yeah, because I came back down and it was just nicely put back to its place next to the bin Yeah, no fucking idea.
People a PayPal shit they're the reason I'm even mentioning this because I just set my car and I could see the been the bins have been taken out so they need to be emptied it's been day and the bean bag is left back at the spot where the bins normally are and it hasn't been pulled out because that's the thing if you're gonna if you're gonna put it down there just because you don't want to eat there's no room at least when the beans go out take it out you're lazy pre
it would be next level next level trawl if you went into the podcast so it was just sitting in your backstage
access to the window that you left this
is good I mean you could be starting a bit of a bit of a neighbor water how new either
they reckon four weeks not even
yeah i mean you know I had issues without dumb neighbor that burned his place down like as when I was in my apartment Yeah, yeah,
I mean the proof is in the pudding when you burn your house down from smoke yeah
when you when you burn your house down yeah and then he the day he had six months where they had to basically repair the apartment that he burned down and he arrives back on day one and how doorbell rings at like three in the morning and it's just him drunk be like hi I can you let me up?
No. Fantastic I'm not letting you up like I just couldn't couldn't believe it. Yeah it like a but each one of those things whereas if you've got maybe it's a little living new you neighbors I feel like I remember getting so antsy about it like I could never feel comfortable because I was always seen what fucking bullshit are they gonna do now and I did I had a So coming back to me though I had a I had a go at it at that because this is this is pre This is pre the daily talk show I don't know if you remember this but I do the Facebook post about my dumb neighbor and then I said our first he burns down his house and he's fucking waking me up like this guy's a drunk Oh yeah. And
then someone messaged me is it haha I know that guy and then the next day we had a knock at the door and I looked through the PayPal where it was him I was like fuck here we go and he gave us
a bottle of wine at brace brace currently holding up four fingers because she looked at looked up how much the wine was worth and it was for the side like I guess it's the thought that came it's the thought that counts
no it's not yeah it's basically cooking wide
yeah exactly it's a it's yeah flammable liquid yeah
that's that's how he birdies ass down he actually see into the, into a glass of that. She that sucks.
I completely I completely forgot about that story.
I remember the Congo, didn't you? Didn't you record the conversation? Can you record a conversation? I
Yeah, I did. Yes. Because I have this is what Okay, it's all coming back to me. Now. I I actually went over the morning after on the Sunday. So so it was a it was the Sunday morning at like 2am or whatever. And then we were it was literally next door to us. And so you could hear when the door would open and close next door and I heard two door open I looked through the PayPal like from our apartment looking at to the sort of the the main area and I could see that
a girl was leaving his place and so he'd obviously just had someone over and I was like you know what i'm i'm gonna say something so I went out that was right on the 9am I knocked on his door and just kept knocking and then he finally answered and that I was I recorded that conversation because I'm like he might punch me in the head but I just said
get you you woke me up like you that that that person that you were that you were calling through the doorbell that was me and I said you've only been back for two days you know i i sit your phrase re telling me the story because that's all just coming back to me but I said it was unacceptable because I said last time i said i'm on age because last time I heard a noise it was the fire alarm because you burnt down your apartment and so you know like how do you think this making me feel in the morning so yeah it's all coming back but yeah you don't want it you don't want to be fighting
I just think about where that guy would have been at hanging over just had some girl over he's feeling absolutely horrible is he's been a pig of a man
you probably had one hour sleep and then he's six foot three Josh just be man had
a big branch out to the fighting us Hey open territories just got like a massive Tash on his chest it's just like if you get to go to through that pain you probably like still ready for a fight so it was a
fact I completely to this is the funny thing was when this stuff used to happen. I remember I would always text him and there's probably half a dozen times over the last like four years where I was on high mission and detailing the stories and I was always like man if I had my own shop I would have so much content and since then I haven't had to any neighbor try and been that apartment down
that would have been so goods sorry about
the Zippy you might be hearing a little bit of noises Bray that's just decides that when I'm doing the podcast that she's gonna re range a whole bag by unzipping everything really loudly.
And then also the a con. I don't completely understand how the fuck it works. Because I put it on low but every like a minute or so. I'm hearing a message blast. I don't know if people continue that.
I think they will. But you're in summer. What's the temperature right now? where you are?
The temperature right now would be my guess. 30 degrees. Yeah,
but. But before we left, so I haven't. I haven't slept. I was just telling you before we repress record I basically I was doing pretty well. It's currently like 10:20pm I was doing really well. And then about nine o'clock. I was just like on the bed. I'm like, I think I'm gonna have to have a nap. I actually came up with a whole
what I was going to do before I got really tired. And I still want to do it. I basically had this idea to flip the whole format of today's show. And I want to interview you about your life. And then I just had a nap. And then I'm just like, I can't fucking I can. I feel like I can't give the full attention to asking you really great questions. Yeah, so we're
already anyway. So
yeah. be short. While and connection. You keep dropping out of mind. No longer Yeah, the connections fact just the you know, the connection is fairly poor. But so before we left or just after we left on the last episode, that was still the same day for me. But the opposites that was 2am we're doing
yesterday's episode, and it's now 10:30pm. And so I'm a little bit sleepy. But I can tell you a little story about a boat experience or hit us involved and when you purchase them, because I still doesn't it doesn't involve Crocs, but no, the Can
I just say it was a
minimal now podcast early every single time we do the podcast, I then upload it and all that sort of thing and takes time before you know it. It still ended up being a little bit of a rush. And so we basically Actually no, we recorded a 3am didn't wait no, 2030 Australian. Yeah, we recorded the podcast and at 430 we had to go down to the marina I was going to be like a 25 minute walk. The problem is that we had it We arrived at to pray and went straight to our hotel and we went on like a cable cart type of deal and going to the marina this morning at four leaving here for 30 4:30am
it's dark and the cable car wasn't running so we had to just go downstairs but we just couldn't find them work out how to get down so we were like we walked all this way downstairs and then like we're using our iPhone torches and then all of a sudden it just like the it just completely ends and we realized we've gone the wrong way and we had to go up then I call the guy who's who were meeting at the port and he doesn't speak any English like I'm trying to talk to him and say hi yet we're here we're just a tiny bit lost we're trying to work out and he's saying something back is an Italian I can understand and so we will meant to meet him at five o'clock it's 10 past five we're in the port running around trying to find breeze like I'm gonna go get the cash out of the ATM those just nice him anyway I then
decided to go up to her and say like I haven't been able to find him and I went and touched her back while she's at the ATM pulling out like a few hundred bucks and she jumped out of a skin I didn't realize but obviously like she was on edge because it was pitch black and she's an ATM right wasn't wearing cross you're basically in Jeff
and I painful just to be clear people might not get the point I was not wearing cross I do not own crops I've never owned crops of I've worn a lot of pairs of sketches which I think is probably in a similar around the same so it's called croc gate Cronkite actually that's that's a good mate the fact that you've given me the title yeah I'm really grateful but anyway it was a bit of a cluster fuck and so we I remember saying I'm just like why the fact that we do sunrise I can you know, you know when you just sort of like a lose the plot. You just walking down and
walk for everyone out there. Josh walks on his toes. So it looks like you're bouncing Tigger and he would have been bouncing around these Wharf we are we going to spit out here. Yeah,
now I was annoyed. But anyway, we finally got onto the boat. And it was it was amazing. It was like, I don't know how to describe the boat bills, sort of one of those old school wooden boats with
a engine and it was still a hockey puck of useless and hang on Wait, when you say is it like one of those ones you'd see on the French Riviera, and they like, so that doc and polished would sleep
yet, but it had like a top like, it's got more of a, it's it's nicer than that. Yes, it's probably like a,
what's one of those things a catamaran, maybe it's like a catamaran type of you know, Spider Man catamaran is different to what it's not a catamaran. And even when I think of catamaran I get triggered because I remember being in Vanuatu, when I was 12 years old, with my dad, and we wouldn't really do like, we weren't really the type to do a lot of things together, he would get quite grumpy with me and not sure remember around mom, third scribe that like him, and I was going on a catamaran and he's just like I remember will stuck in the middle of the water in the catamaran. He's like you're losing the you've lost the momentum because I didn't know how to use the the steering and he wanted to see. And I'm like now I've got the steering. And I remember I learned the word momentum on that day. Which is not our official word of the day. No, but I remember being like fact I'm never gonna forget momentum because I'm just being Yeah. What about how I've lost it all.
So I mean, that's a stressful situation having to actually go out on your own catamaran. Not Yeah,
we have some blood with me.
It's a fucking nightmare. And he's having to deal with it. I was a little fat 12 year old asking for Magnum ice creams that reservoir to I remember being like, Man, that was crazy. Like I we spent $12 on a magnum and did you know they'll do anything to shut me up. But I also had hot chips at the port, you know, like eating at a pool bar. I was just I can sit there as little fat 12 year old just eating hot chips with tomato sauce is loving is a good life. But now I don't know what it's called. It's like a it's a boat. I'll put a photo icon on the on the Instagram. But Yep, it was it was amazing. And the best part of it was the there was a lot of miscommunication in the sense of we wanted to basically go around the island, we had picked two to four hours. He didn't speak English. So we couldn't even really have that conversation beforehand. He would say in sort of broken English
about like describing little bits. And saying all this is Mount Vesuvius, Mount Vesuvius. And it would just sort of point and you know, policy time is really lovely guy. But anyway, he said to us
Blue Grotto and I said, Yes. And that I said, Let's, we want to exit, we want to end at Blue Grotto, because it's easier for us to get to our hotel, drop us off there. And anyway, he was saying, he said phrase free swimming. I didn't understand what he meant. And so we just went along with him anyway, rather than taking us to Blue Grotto. At the end, we would have been around like, 10 I am, we arrived at Blue Grotto. straightaway, it was a first place that we went to at about
630 in the morning. And he just says swim you sort of like motioning swimming. So like, Okay, and so we he gives us some goggles, like the so the big
goggles you'd use for snorkeling without the actual snorkel pace and the couple of noodles and just, you know, and we jumped into the water and he's actually paying for us to go close to the like, where the insurances so for people who don't know, how would you describe blue? I actually haven't been but the water is just crystal clear. Brought blue. Unbelievable.
It's like in this kind of like a rock cave that has this opening with a light gets in and people swim in there. Or you can people drive boats in there.
Yeah, well, so the thing is, it's not like it's not like something. It's a tiny entrance, right. So the only way that you can get in is they have this
rope this chain, and you basically go into a kayak, he basically I think you pay, it's like 10 euro, whatever, you go into a kayak and they it's like a blow holy thing where they wait until the water goes down. It goes keep going up and down, covering the cave Hall. So you have to wait for it to go down. And then they grabbed the chain and you go on to Anyway, it was early in the morning. So no one else was there. And he's gesturing for us to go closer to the hall and he's probably a bat it made his way and he's saying he sort of gesturing for us to like duck under and to go in it says it be a beautiful and we're like we're getting closer to the hole and has every time the the water basically goes down. They have a huge section of it. So it's just like blowing it. It's really hard and Bray looks at a big sign which has like Italian rushing up top but at the bottom. It's like do not split like what is this library strictly for swimming strictly forbidden. And so people don't swim, the Blue Grotto. The only way that you can do it. It's like a fucking it'd be the equivalent of us riding on a roller coaster when Disneyland close way in which we've gotten into Disneyland. And we say the roller coaster and we have the option of operatic ourselves and so I'm like I just flashed to where my mind when was the Thailand story of the kid stuck in the fucking guy like you know what's gonna happen I'm going to try and be adventurous I'm going to go against this sign and then we're going to go on done that's gonna be fun. And then the place is gonna fucking flood and then we're gonna have to be rescued. Or we're gonna die. That's basically what
great content and content bitten by a shark would have been good content yet
the daily talk show live from Blue Grotto the cage, it'd be pretty it'd be it'd be interesting it'd be very Reva be anyway, so we we decided brain I decided not. We're not gonna fucking do this. It's too risky. Anyway. Then he take the the what would it be? What did we decide the captain's actual title was a helmsmen
refactor fucking Google we have no idea. What about drivers. Cold, helmsmen
taxis. Top Off jumps into the water. With one of those sort of like life. God can circle things and donuts and swims. We would be probably these 15 second maybe like a sweep. or? Yeah, probably the rig. Probably my rig. So he's doing he's doing you thought he was fit. That's very hurtful. I say. He's like my rake. And that breaks it fit. That's so fucking road. After I just I posted a photo on Instagram of my rig. Which I have never done in my life. And I'm feeling very conscious and the appraised comparing me to the
he's any 60 like nobody has something for an Italian 60 year old.
Yeah, exactly. I pray it was a lovely guy. He's got about anyway, so he he ends up taking us and we go in and we swim around and wait, fact. It was amazing. And it was just like, we were so pumped once we're done it. Like it felt like we were so naughty. And it was like a this is a lifetime opportunity. Like who gets to do that?
Say Josh. This is what it felt like my whole life growing up going for the naughty option.
Hashtag naughty option. But the funny thing was that his name is Antonio and pray before I told this story. And before Bray posted about it on her Instagram. I said can you just make sure before we talk about it, there's not culturally sensitive, like, insensitive in this in the sense that I was worried that if like, for instance, if we were in Central Australia and there was like an indigenous site It was like do not take photos. And then all of a sudden we went early in the morning took photos and like Haha, look we took like, that'd be so uncool. Well it's not always rock. Laura Yeah, yeah. And so
yeah, so I was slightly cautious with that. But Bray looked it up just like that's fine. And the funny thing was she found she did a Google search and she found a TripAdvisor review from someone who said that they swim in Blue Grotto and they said we had this amazing
tour guide nine man Tony Hi. Yeah so this is this is Antonio state Casey Amanda yeah do you want to swim and live a naughty boy good rig for 60 year old
woman the blue got Antonia they say?
Yeah so they yeah it's um
it was an interesting it was an interesting experience I'm literally just getting
voice my voice messages from our b&b guy
right now which my first reaction was like through WhatsApp he loves like yeah we talked about that is you know people in Israel I am doing sending voice you love sending a voice message but he's just sent one now which got me thinking I'm like at 10:40pm I wonder if we're like connected to another room in my keeping people awake but I will say by the daily talk show must go on but listen we will wrap it up this one just need to mention Tony Tony Rowan yeah he's emails coming through otherwise Can I just can I just say that I feel like I've done a lot of talking but I'd like to point out that I've been doing it because the internet connection so fucking bad and it feels like it's easier yeah I
actually wouldn't go to coffee through that story
can you I don't feel like you've spoke we went from May going to do an episode where I interviewed you about your life to me like I feel like we've I only told about store in the neighbor story but that's okay
but it's the daily talk show sometimes with recording sometimes JJ
yeah yeah exactly and other times not
alright so I'll finish with the same hour from Tony Rowan said hi guys loving the show and especially your now odd thinking what's that overseas deployment addition actually locked that night
the day and the potential potential he kept stories getting them to a daily back to the word I use this word regularly in my correspondence when I'm trying to lose as a word of the day yeah sounds of it when he tries to look private school in my emails I thought that was so clever just trying to look a bit a private school a little bit fancy so the word is pertain p r ti n pertain and so the way he uses it is I have a desk I haven't looked are good like a potato Tell me what you can pertain
pertain you pertain something too. So it's like pertain I probably only know it in regards to pertaining to, so would you say hi.
I want to speak in regards pertaining to I wouldn't even know a sentence
the same email is pertaining to the rubbish bin Situation Room with an Ibis
yet Yeah, you got it. So pertain pertaining used instead of concerning for instance. So yeah, it's basically was a be appropriate related to or applicable to, so their example the shop premises and stock and all assets pertaining to the business
it's because it's I to like it's a usable one. It's a usable one because you wouldn't you wouldn't have to think too hard about in the sentence structure what more that's actually meaning but you still would be like this. It
didn't quite get that it makes you stop it's a thumb scroll it's a thumb stopper as they say on the
to like it if he's um I do like we're always gone with the private sector a little bit of their injection of private school yeah
the the one thing that I wanted to ask you before we go I was I was putting together my Josh Johnson. com website like I've had the
I've had a website on there you know 15 years or whatever but I thought I want to as part of my rate hashtag rebrand which also my rebrand involves fizzy water I now drink fizzy water that's that's part of it but the the website I started writing a little bio and before you know it I've somehow
like gone a bit crazy with the bio Do you think it's over the top to have like a full biography on your website like is that next level narcissism
going for your website because I missed half of that yeah just say yeah
So Josh johnson.com you go to Josh Johnson calm and I started by telling a story from 2004 and then unfortunately the way the story sort of gone I'm just describing my life from every single year
yes I mean summarize it in in one sentence leave that at the top in bold and then just go into for more information ready below and chances are they weren't rabid if I do. I don't know if it's well written?
Well, because Derek Silva's who founded CD Baby who I filmed in New Zealand a couple of months ago for the minimalists. Hey, he has this section where it's like the 10 second version of me the 10 minute version of me element and so I was thinking that that could be a cool practice. I would like to hear your biography I'd love to hear you put together basically sort of like a blow by blow but I would just I wouldn't know how to I've filled in this nice bit that I like but then I'm like I have started in 2004 I was born in 1992 I need to like now go back and explain like everything
he writing first person or is it Josh Johnson is this Yeah,
it's in first person to really bought you know, to bore the fuck out of people. Because you know, it's our show and we'll do what we want all um, it's it's only 300 words so tight me. How long does it take me to write I was just going to give it give you a cracking you tell me how boring it or whether you think if
you had a complex speaking the whole entire time you're finished it. Yeah.
With my biography. Your ages. This is next level for this. What happens when I get tired? I go a long mask. Yeah, rich. Yeah, exactly. No, no. Yeah, no matter. Here we go. I'm just Jansen, I'm fulfilling my teenage dream of telling stories for living. In 2004. At the age of 14, I started freelancing as a video editor for community television program Reuters life on say, 31 working out of my bedroom in the outer suburbs of Melbourne, Australia. The that followed became one of the most formative years of my life. I registered my first domain name, Josh johnson.com became obsessed with a new thing called podcasting, wrote my first blog post and uploaded my first video to YouTube, the dawn of podcasting fit my love for technology platform platform like iTunes would not yet to incorporate podcasts into their library, and it hadn't appeared on the public right at the time podcasts that were available were focused primarily on two topics, technology, and people talking about podcasts. I subscribe to a broadcaster from Petaluma, California named Leo Laporte, I discovered him and a host of other technology journalists and presenters. After watching the short lived syndication of cable TV station tech TV in Australia in 2004, Leo began to taking he's weekend technology radio show the tech guy and uploaded directly to a podcast feed soon after more made for web video and audio program started launching when redundancies at Tech TV left talented content creators and presenters without work born out of this was my favorite online video show designation, a weekly video and audio podcast that covered the top stories on the social news website. digg.com. I religiously downloaded every episode of dig nation until their last show in 2011. It remained in a constant inspiration in the way I create content for the for audiences. In the final two years of high school I am road in a part time film and television night course run by the Victorian College of the Arts called foundations. At the time I was the youngest participant in the program. Most Tuesdays and Thursday nights for two years was spent learning the ins and outs of filmmaking through lectures and practical assignments. I'm grateful that I had supportive parents who drove me the one hour each way to attend in the city. That's what I've written so far. Is that way too fucking much for my website. Oh, I panicked towards the end thinking that there's
gonna be another 15 minutes and I gotta go get my setup but I think it was well written finish it then don't read the rules published podcast
I think could you could you do it for you? I would actually be interested in you doing a bit of your bio I feel like it's a really interesting process in understanding how we see ourselves yeah
yeah. What do we keep calling this Crockett gate I feel like we need to nine this another title to warn people about the
Josh goes at Elon Musk Joshua's for biography
is a alone math
it's not funny I like that. Or crocodile which do you prefer prefer croc gates at the front because if people just listen to the first 10 minutes you nailed it perfect
sorry about that this what happens when I get tired go to sleep
hyper daily talk show.com is the email address
thanks turn for your your a mouse and man we still a Time's running out Michelle saying for us to sort out this puzzle. So first thing on the morning on my list is to to get to get it sorted. Let's do that. Alright guys, we'll see you tomorrow. Have a good one. Bye.