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It's the daily Talk Show episode. 481. What's happening, guys? What's going on?

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scooter? Derek is in the building today.

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Thanks for popping past. It is absolutely My pleasure.

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How did you get here?

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And that's a lie. It's a push bike

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is your skateboard up a skateboard?

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Yeah. I call it an electric or an E bike. Yep. And overly powerful a bike. So,

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so I was searching something the other day. And I think was like a bike shop. I googled. And it was like a bike. Like what came up as like the number one thing and then I realised it was some fucking side hustle that you had,

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ya know, I've got Melbourne city bikes. What I've also got a company called cruise electric.

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Yeah, cruise electric. I think that's what it was.

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Just that cruise electric. You

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love the bit of domain grabbing

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roses in like a question ship

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that spelling cruise. Cruising. But electric. you spell it first? See? You I see.

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Okay, cruise, electric calm and so you just Firstly, sorry, guys, before we jump into this, we appreciate you coming the show. Derek? We got some fucking very exciting news. hour episodes Episode 500th live show has been locked in. Yes. And you can now get your tickets. It's a free event

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is afraid of it. Oh, where's it?

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It's an iu 79 around the corner here ble? Yeah, cuz I'm getting excited. You're actually you. You look like you've inverted. That's how bad your colour is today. These are really that bad.

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Yeah. I think I'm literally just depressed. Nothing. I'm modelling. Derek.

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I'm excited. I'm excited because we've been working on the Eventbrite page where you have to register to becoming physically just rock up even though it is free. You gotta get your tickets missing. I seven. Where are we getting this from?

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The tickets. Were ready. They'll be in everyone's Instagram by

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everyone. Everyone. Can we get them?

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Derek Can you put it on yours? Okay,

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so if you don't that is the Eventbrite link and which?

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Which businesses? About seven days? cruise electric?

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Go Go to Instagram for that.

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He might not you might. Anyway, it's happening. Live Show. It's on the 29th of this month. 29th of October kicks off at 6:30pm.

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I'm already nervous about meeting the gronk squad. Why am I

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am I hugging everyone? Hello? Yes.

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Now I might. I'm going to keep you at back and bring you out when we come on stage. Because I got

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your bloody liability.

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Insurance is high enough to cover the awkwardness that people suffer.

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I literally the other day, I went to a wine bar, which I never do. It was for a birthday party. And the hugging handshake went so poorly that I turned to break as we arrived. I said I'm never doing this. The guy was so nice, but it's like, Let's race it. Yeah, that was me.

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He said later he said

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I tried to do

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the thing is I'm not good at writing. And so if someone puts their hand out I sometimes ignore that and go for the hug. Yeah, because you said transfixed on what you want to do what you think you need to be doing? That's not even that. I just what is it?

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It's like karate man you time goes slower. When you confident you just wait. The signs are there. You let someone decide. So it's hard for me like I you know, in the 90s the even the IDS tap on the bombs it was full. That was a French kiss kiss on the lips. Just straight up. Hey, go straight on the chops. Right.

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But as he was because if you're saying that you're in

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this kind of thing, but

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when they order it like in the same that you're in is a serious from would you have you ever been a swing up

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by a swing?

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Have you ever been to club about that was unsecured a road. So there was a my brother leaves with a Cavalier Actually, he leaves the cross the road in security across the road from a swingers club. And the reason I know is because my mate had his 18th birthday there. And I had older brothers that told me that that's where orgies went down. So Am I mad at me. He's at his birthday party. I'm quizzing the security guards about where all the fucking art from the wall with his hawks with wisdom, the icon.

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What was that? So they was handing it wasn't it was just a venue for the venue.

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And the same kid I remember staying over at his house and his parents would leave to go out would be home alone or babysitters me. I remember that would like in full leathers.

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I was like Oh, that's a bit weird.

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But he's dead likes to party and he looks like Bruce Willis. So I feel like sorry, quick storey. So the colonel. They call him the colonel. Own this. swingers cloud that

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I'm not even joking. Half Sabre and then seven.

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I actually

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filmed there. Did you add abode for Fifi and jewels? They did some form of white cat challenge.

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That was the fucking kill. It

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definitely had like a Yeah, I reckon Can you look it up abode? You're not going to find the faith in the colonel. No,

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no, but just saying if there's like some information on him. Anyway, he would come over. And I think he like he knocked on my brother still before. I think I was really lucky. Some like getting to sign something. But I remember just telling me the colonel a that's a swingers club. My my elder brothers friend has been there. And

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yeah,

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yeah, no serious, she went down.

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So hang on a sec. There's gonna be different levels of swingers, like this full orgy nightclub? Yeah. And then there's the organised, open relationship. Kind of I think there's a group around that. I don't know much about it yet. But I know that there's a group that plan on doing a podcast

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open Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like it might be 500 of them.

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And so

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I don't think they all go for it at once. But it's like this non monogamous relationship.

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And so how close Have you been to that scene in your life?

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Never nowhere near Really?

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There is a married man. Remember, we

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are promiscuous. That's a different thing.

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Well, you know, like I saw,

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you know if you've been to a swingers party or not

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put you on a bike.

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Taking somebody home from a cane, the ball party on your electric a buck.

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No, but I've seen a photo that you've posted, where you are wearing what could be described as like fishnet. But like for the body?

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That's not sexy. What What is that scene though? What seeing you in

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there?

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That's like, a joke baby already. middle aged, fat white guy Australia wearing a fishnet singlet?

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Yeah, it's a very strange vest. Have you been to a gay club before? Yeah, yeah. You Josh. No. It's an experience. We should go on West Hollywood. Oh, yeah. I mean, West Hollywood is the only thing open and we will still why and one of the party. That's fucking to it. And we went to this gay club with these, these gals. And I mean, Ash Williams will be able to give us some updates. Like what goes down in these gay clubs in LA? Yeah. And Mr. 97 cheese. They would walk in he would. They'll be like hyenas drooling to

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tell you about the mic. If I told you my q amp a storey

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key when I

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was in the ABC show. Let me Well, I brought

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some friends of ours but back in the day, some friends of mine said all let's go to you want to go to q&a? Thursday night at the builders arms corner. And I'm going sounds great if toys I absolutely love Cuisinart, yeah. a quiz elevator watch siloed century and I love you know the idea of quiz night. Right? So yeah, so I'm all fired up. And we all we get there and we drink and drink and drink and everyone's like pretty smelly. And I'm playing pool against this. All these lesbians. I know the whole rooms full of G's lesbians love trivia, love, love trivia. think this is great. And and the whole place was was was full of queer people and all sorts of flamboyant sort of trans people and old lyst Wow, this is fantastic.

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But when are they going to stop the fucking trivia?

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All night that para having the time of my life that we had we had the absolute bowl with with everybody. And in the hand offset my friend I said wins. fucking killed. I

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mean, the queer and alternative as a queer

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alternative. That's why I'm asking you about the I feel like you'd earn levers at least.

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What do you mean like kinky livers?

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Yeah, some fault like chatbots you've had a pair of chaps. Sorry, chap. What's it was chaps

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ask this Jeff. I got a question. And these came up the other day. You haven't answered? Yes, we'll get to it. Us chaps. Is that like saying 3am in the morning? chaps don't have chaps. You know, well, I think they are looking at the things that you wish in front of you, James. Yeah. To for the dirt and the

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ACA like cowboys wear them. So it'd be like just wearing the chats with no pants on means rascals chat. Oh, I say.

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There was a there was an idea that there was chaps and then there was Atlas chaps.

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Well, it's just that maybe it's just not wearing pants. What is it?

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Derek right there like the the things that you were like the bull riding? Sometime but this steady covering for the legs consisting of leggings and a belt? Is there a difference between

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still leggings? And you got us? Let's chat.

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That's what we're sorry. Have you ever Oh, no. No.

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I mean, I've worn us chats before

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you would have been didn't you do a bit of exotic for the strip?

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Yeah, it was when I mean it was all culturally inappropriate. I was dressed up as a Indian from

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YMCA

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because he weighs these things and IJ string Yeah, my don't fucking compare my

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from older Oh,

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yeah. Now we won't mention

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as well was that when I was a kid I climbed deliver. And then we found out he can't fucking you're meant to do that. But when you're a 15 year old, you got no idea?

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Yeah, you can't. Yeah. We've we've gone through this and decided completely Natalie innocent. You are

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talking ethics. You You went to a podcast event the other way.

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I went along to oz pod. It's put on by the ABC and it's a big

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conference with an invitation. Yeah.

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Shameless, like those bunch of people

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dying to see Zahra and Michelle. There they gronk gronk. Yeah. I thought it'd be great to see them on the stage. And I looked at the programme. And it was that we're doing a intense 10 minutes or something like that. Right in the middle

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of the day. And they speed round talking to Yeah, and I

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do a bit of work for in my studio, customised studios, where I do a bit of work for

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Sin City.

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Do a bit of work for another podcast company in Sydney. I won't mention their name. And they because he doesn't want to collaborate

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with castaways to

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have anything to do with

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the film.

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No, but there is a that I used to hold up my red wrestling mask that is known as Wilson

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BZ. She told us about the castle. I think the studio is like he cast away.

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Is my wife already asked. Asked

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podcasters Yeah, yeah. which we thought was really good.

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Anyway, so yeah, there is a studio everyone can use accessible so you can so it's like, yeah, Castaway. Sure. Like?

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I feel like that's been locked away.

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Yeah.

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You say fuck away.

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It's my version of Fuck off. Like

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I'm the only one that does about trying to get

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the boy anyway. So last part was on and you.

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I wanted to get to see Sarah Michelle. And I also wanted to see a Molly silver as well. So funny. And then the company in Sydney booked my studio from for the morning. Right. And podcasting is not that hugely lucrative when you're an independent. And so it was a tonne of $191 for a ticket to go to the conference. It was like, I'm going to miss out on what I would have liked to have seen. What are

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some creative whites, Mr. 97. If you're a you're a young dude, who, you know, if you weren't working for us and didn't necessarily have a job, but you're podcasting? How would you? How would you creatively try and get a ticket? Do you think if you hadn't, I can

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probably get in touch with one of the event organisers or sponsors and now just reach out to them asking if you could get a ticket or you could do something in return for a ticket.

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Well, like a lot of those success summits like the one Gary Vee was at he there's a whole heap of volunteers that set up the chairs are like fucking packed. So you just volunteer.

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You get over the uni students do I did that T shirts or matching and everything cute. So anyway, you

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you thought 190 bucks, or

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was it didn't I kind of wanted to go because I want to be same though. I'm kind of

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my Korea involves being involved in podcast. Do you think you're a bit of a would you your character within the podcast? Same do you think? Not yet, but

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that's what that's that's the goal. Yeah, that's the goal. And what do you just look at? You said

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so, so I kind of wanted to go. And I started building up this kind of socialist kind of fuck that at how daily a VC charged $191 for a poor podcaster to go when they're probably slinging out free tickets to the Australian and an SPS and all totally making this up.

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Well, that was a funny thing, because you've told the storey before. And you were just saying everyone had free tickets. No one was, that was my

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Yeah, without

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Of course. So anyway, started building up this sort of righteousness that I guess all krim probably due to the very fact that and considering an idea 97 was bang on? Because I did when they booked the studio.

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I did say this is the Sydney Sydney evening. Yeah.

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So I said, Look,

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I want to go to this conference. And outside of every half day, so your job is to get Give me one of your tickets. They said.

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They said, well, they

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don't really.

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It does seem a bit tryhard I feel like when I say

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that, you know, putting in the hand helps. Yeah. So. So

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we're talking about

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fighting for tickets

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yet. So I said, I said you get me a ticket Come on,

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and why are they in a position to get a ticket? Do you think

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they'd be right? So the response I got, which

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went on a

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support ticket was we don't have anyone going from our firm. And it's a particular genre, where I clearly would not. It would be weird if I had the badge with a company's

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farmers, podcasting and you don't look like a farmer

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is a skinhead group or something where he was too long. So basically, no, that failed. And then I went back this and I went in my wife, I said, My wife was I've got a record in the morning and she goes, Well, I'm, I've taken the day off so that you can go to his frickin conference. You better go

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go explain that how much the tickets were Did you think that you were?

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Yeah, not really.

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I'm guessing what happened is you said that you were going to get a ticket from this Sydney company. You thought it was a done deal? Exactly. So I

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so I was my plan originally was I carved out a bit and I thought I'm gonna get on the train. And I'm gonna go to the Art Centre where it was at least a selfie of myself and I'm going to share my wife the evidence as I couldn't get in I tried everything right. So I was ready to file that just not getting in trouble of who was my goal? So but then I worked out on it. I know what I'm going to do. And who was it that said motivate you? Was he that suggested put last year's lead you don't know.

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Not definitely not conspiracy. Now.

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Last year's lady it put it underneath I mean, it's handy not being a bit you're the opposite of a minimalist. Most people check out their lanyards. This is the one time where language comes in handy.

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City we're still on a hook. So I put that on and then I went on up a cable and an old silver You know the old rock and roll microphones? Yeah, same 58 kind of thing.

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And I think my bag got on the tram and built up by

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into my socialist anger and then hopped off the tram walked marched are

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we planning to do with the microphone? Oh, that the

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idea with the microphone is always going to

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be rushing through to give it to someone and I was just staff that was the idea of using as a prop to sort of zoom zoom in and it was this beat up all this was huge conference

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was there. Was there anything attached to the cable? The microphone didn't have a recorder and it was just a dated

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into the bag. Indeed, it looks just like trying to make out that the microphone is broken.

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So

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I got to the Art Centre and you know how it works and sort of a round look around building with layers.

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Is it a wedding cake? Is it the hammer? Is it that one Art Centre? was in killed Australia? Cinco de right, yes.

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Gallery Yeah. Or just next door. So I thought I'd go in one of the doors that we had bit where the stairs go down. And I went in there and went around on the inside. What this will be might be look like I'm already in the building. And I got this just nobody. This is one woman standing there. And I said Is there a podcasting around here? She goes, Oh, yeah, level level six. Go in the elevator. Because

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I saw what you had to do one round of stairs here. had to cancel the podcast. So

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you made me go to the next one. We got three foot down.

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So

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I mean the elevator and now going back my whole aim. I can't just kind of cruise in and build up to this. It's going to open into the

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anxiety of you got it this

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is the matrix.

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I was excited. I felt like a little kid shoplifting or something. So So I got my cord out of my bag and got it ready. My lanyard I sort of made it really landed it but not outside like a puff that out of it. So it was obvious. Like I was just a bit awkward.

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So that later same calibre the lanyards

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when the printer said it was but I didn't know that. So and the doors open.

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And there is a black seven or eight frickin kids with ABC podcast event kind of name on the T shirts or facing me just a photo of me, you know, just kind of got into the part where, well, they're not important enough. So

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it goes very slow right when you're doing this. And that was actually said

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it's actually pretty next.

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It's a live fade.

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Oh, okay.

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There we go. So what happens, slow time down, and I get into the turned left, and just marched along. So going along the corridor. And at the end of the corridor, I could see clearly the guardhouse if you like the table with all the lanyards where you go with your ticket, and into the night to the left of it was a coffee machine and stuff like that. And in the distance, I could see the doors into the auditorium what time of day was it must have been about 12 you can. So I thought right? He's wanting to do walk along here looking important. swing my arms about a bit. Go. And I did the whole there it is and started hitting directly diagonally towards the door. And then I heard the voice

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hi can help you. Have you got a lanyard?

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We not making any eye contact.

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Not always heading the opposite way. I was clearly not going to the

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desk you try not to. You feel like look at people. They don't look at you. That's what you think that's what I was hoping.

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I'd like to walk away. Good work.

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Yeah. And then

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she says, How can I help you? And I went up and I said, Look, I am what do you think you should have said before he said what you actually said? Do you think he said the right thing?

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Absolutely. Okay, absolutely. Now, what did you What did you say?

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I'm assuming you said I need to deliver this microphone. Like you stayed on script on the plan.

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I told her about the microphone. All right. I went up to the desk and I said she said you have a ticket I said no. actually sort of know. Well, kind of

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you said where you got that line yet? What's that?

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It was tucked away. There was no evidence that I was it was last year.

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Can you just confirm that you didn't have the daily talk show jumper on

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Did you have Did you

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did you I didn't

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I had a

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brand new shirt with a colour and everything was amazing. Okay, yeah, that weed is Tommy heel fingers. I know shit. So then I kind of started going off and I just rolled into this whole truth vibe. And when I had a squeegee when I was 14 I just got beat by a dog and I have always been sad. So I said look, I've got I had it was coming. I was ready to pay all the dough was a lot of money for an independent podcaster and then I got a booking believe it ironically to record a podcast this morning. And then I was like oh you know what, like for half a day because I really wanted to see zombie Donald shell and all that and I really wanted to see Molly Molly. And

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I hope you you have been named like

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I did right yeah. And and and I thought well it's not work it's not it's just not worth it. So what I was going to do is I got the cable to make myself look like I was staff and the lemon from last year underneath. And I was just going to try and just bullshit my way head

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straight

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and that's the end of the storey. I can't tell you I'm not telling you anymore. Yeah, cuz the secret is going to be revealed on the 500th episode to what happened next my God he's like

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when's our

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500th episode honesty? It's pretty

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soon honestly honesty is is very important. And so what was the highlight of the event?

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What was great was

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I did get getting there in time to see Molly talk a little bit and then almost immediately it became lunch break it was

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Did you really help yourself to the food

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free lunch a taxpayer lunch and

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you don't know whether I paid or not excuse me

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for lunch now what was the what was the food?

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It was nice it was rolls with nice like roast beef and stuff like that and classic there's some classic stuff it was like a sit down meal they have the desert was a tiny little guys like rocky road Heaney little. Probably got about hedgehogs and stuff 15 of them.

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I feel like you've got a big relationship with them. catering No, no cuz I remember you actually went to a specific remember you talking about? This is the early days of our friendship. I feel like you were talking about an event. And the big selling point was either had really great catering, but I can't remember which was

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great. The other

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other week at the University at the Melbourne University. It was like in one of those buildings Michael been gay.

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Oh, yeah, that was

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that was so good. All like it was vegan. Lovely.

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We met was eggplant some sort of dish.

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Sneaky interfaces, though, when I went to remember when like, there was those big rave parties at Rod Laver arena. Like official ones. Oh, it was huge. What was it two tribes are two tribes. I think it was cold. And it was like when

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going out and I was done with

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raving by them. But it was huge. And so they'll be always people sneak into that. And you get masses of people doing a fence jump. And so then everyone like rashes and so there was the you see the commotion staring. It's almost like you know, the loads of stuff that's happening in Melbourne at the moment,

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right? Have you ever so we were talking about this? I think it was on the yesterday about protests. And we've were a few policies we've never done any sort of protests even

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a protest go I gotta be wild up when I listened to your yesterday about why they would just kind of was saying, if you fucking if you, I reckon if you're under 40. So I put myself in a different category so they could judge by my own rant. You under 40. And you go, Oh, why would they want to disrupt? Then you're you're bucking

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the fucking whole world is coming to paces. Yeah. To die. And you go, Oh, you're bootstrapping the business.

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And never have attended one. Because then you're just

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definitely under 40? Yes.

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I did. I took my kids to the club condo. And yeah.

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What about unlike Did you what was like the what was the night in the 90s? Or the 80s? What were you guys protesting about?

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There was there was a few wars that we went to and protesting them. Vietnam, as it was a bit Iraq and all that. Is it what it would have been Australia, john Howard got on board or corrupt. Just got on board with America and sent Australian troops into a war that destroyed Iran and cause more people to die. Then the freakin Holocaust in Germany, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq,

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you said Iran, sorry.

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I mean, this is the stuff so complex, I was listening to a guy who served over there in 2006. And he was saying he was fighting alongside Afghan citizens. And so when people have that view on they just over there killing everybody. He was saying, which was an interesting view, because I've always thought if I can win over there told sheet upon the there's a crisis in the country itself, of the people that live there, the Afghans are killing Afghan people, the you know, the terrorist groups are made up of local citizens, local people. And then there's the local army. And so the American troops are fighting alongside the Afghans, and now we're best mates and they lost soldiers from the Afghans that they cared about. So they are on it. This is what it's super complicated.

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It's also I guess, like the US funding a bunch of wars, so they put in a bunch of money to different groups. And then there's obviously things that happen based on that ship, things go down. It's like a heel, what, what do they respond to they chose, they chose to hunt down and kill Saddam Hussein. Based on the made up storey that he had with weapons of mass destruction. Do you remember that it is a piece of fucking shit, though, it was a piece of shit. And there's pieces of shit all over the world. I mean, you

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they haven't left the country. Everyone's happy to just let pieces of shit run all kinds of countries and, and, and kill millions of their own citizens. We don't invade them. So they decided to go in and they set them aside was holding a very delicate country together. And so when they removed him, the whole place went to shit. Still is so far, it's completely fine.

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What about all the stuff? I

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thought that was interesting. I made up the storey about what Mrs. The weapons of mass destruction wasn't true, though, just by that I don't have never found it illegally. They should be tried as war criminals, George Bush, john Howard, and the dude who's in charge of England,

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coalition of the willing, Nicole.

31:43
And so what were the sorts of protests that you were doing?

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Well, that have a no war protest here in there. I'm not I'm not a big protest. I'm just saying

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that but you went more protests and we have

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the best one I'll tell you about a shitload.

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This is not a bloody protest. Unless it's got disco, you know? That's what I find is like,

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does it

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the protests lose their impact when the protesters are having too much fun? So when I saw them doing sort of Cisco, whatever, I was IR, this is a flash mob.

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flash mobs by disco. Yeah,

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or like a silent disco sort of thing. So I was wondering, I wonder if the efficacy of that versus doing something? Like I feel like maybe starvation sort of fact in protest could have more capturing

32:37
the idea of the climate rally is that it's it's, it's not a protest, protesting anything. It's just a show of wax sake, you know, like this ridiculous that people are still even having a conversation about whether it's real or not. So what do you think comes out of corrupt?

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What do you think will come out? Because I guess we got 97 to put together Google protests that have helped something you find any?

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You found a few Arab springs or that sort of thing? The music one was pretty good in Melbourne. That was the big day out? No, no. It was a big day for a lot of people know, the, the Liberal government in Victoria, the state government did that, you know, they're tearing Sydney apart with that lockout laws. And they started doing that here. And they introduced they decided that alcohol and music venues were destroying society. Right. So they, they made it so that anyone who had live music on had to have a official security guy on every entrance. So if you had a tiny little pub in Brunswick, with a guy playing the violin, the pub at a higher three security guards because those all pubs got doors everywhere. Sometimes five security guards by law lose their licence because they need more security and the point is live music. Historically, statistically, no violence, live music events. All the violence is is methamphetamine at speed and people getting drunk in Kingstree that this goes and stuff which will you know pretty much lift the other they introduce lockout laws as I said the live so they were

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music got they were doing

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they had a distinction between a DJ playing music and someone with an instrument is always saying the nice guys I

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think the I think there's something in the live music if you're a DJ for someone out there Manning that is like that's live music Yeah, I think something like that. It's which is ridiculous. It was

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just an outrageous really weird Orwellian crazy Big Brother thing that happened. And it was just like, Get inside.

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saying the good fact it actually stopped it.

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I thought we gotta stop it. Yeah, yes. Clear those the whole of Melbourne got a match massive match up, you know, standing marching on Parliament with signs I had baby Tom when he was about bodies age up on my shoulders. It was nice, because it was just music you are going the world's gonna die or anything like that. Yeah. And he's now is your wife go with it? Yeah, she was it? Yeah, it was good, fun. Edit. They sorted it out. That's

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and so the thing with the sword, I guess where I'm not sure on it's my ignorance in regards to I need to read up on these types of things. What what are they seeking with this? This latest sort of disruption sort of stuff? What are the tangible things that they're asking for? They want

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you and you and you to wake the fuck up? And go, it's this is it. This is time that everybody to take not just what about get to see the and let the politicians know that the majority the this or they won't vote for you? Essentially? Yeah. It has to be it's not about straws and bottle tops and shit like that. It's about numbers. It's It's time. I'm not even a political guy. But it's just it. You can feel it. Julie, I

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can show you your political guy.

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It just feels like It's time. It's time. You know? When I was growing up, I just we just had on our show.

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Dan's dad who's a psychologist, child,

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and his The name is Yep,

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yep. So we were talking and I asked him a question. I said, What's the difference between said you when you were raising kids? You had to raise them in the shadow of nuclear holocaust. Right? So when I was a kid, and I was my kids age, we were told all the time by the news and everyone.

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Any day

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the Russians had enough bombs to kill the destroy the whole world 10 times over. And so did America

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nucular, right, I remember that feeling. Yeah.

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When I was a kid, it was terrible bombed. You all Yeah. And and it got to the stage where it was on the news all the time. They had a Cuban missile crisis where it nearly did happen. There was like one Russian soldier that just used his own. He was meant to it was like right there coming. I meant to kick it off. He was meant to press the button. He could see on the radar that they were being attacked by America. So he was meant to press the button. But that was his job. My happen and everything was in place to kill everybody in the world. Right Penny when I could know

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that nosy guy over there.

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Forgive me if that's completely wrong audience of you guys. But

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But man, it's a good fucking storey. Great storey. This

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is what this is what happened? I love that you like I don't know if that's a storm, I guess. Right?

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Sorry. Oh, but it's what

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happened. And it was a computer glitch. And it was something that went wrong was a flock of birds or something. And it wasn't obviously we know now that wasn't America, destroying Russia, because they had a situation where there was so the threat of mass destruction was so high. No one could afford to attack each other anyway. So they had all these wars. You know, they engaged in wars in Vietnam and Korea and all that which annihilated other people's countries with, that's where they played against each other.

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So it's sort of a lower weapon type of thing. It's like, like, we can't, we can't use the proper one is going somewhere.

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Yeah. It's horrible. Disgusting about that. I said, What will will now we've got, I've got we're raising our kids. Were this other threat is climate change threat? What's the difference? The difference is that if the bombs don't go off, everything's okay. Whereas, this doesn't go away. You want to slow it down, or you don't but still

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and so what are we? So my feeling is it seems very very big seems completely out of our control. I'm hoping that there's someone that's smart as fact I was watching on the news and some guy from Iraq who lives in Queensland's created something that's like, cures cancer, its DNA and shit. A guy was like in the next 15 years, I think cancer will be completely cured, right? I'm sort of hoping that there'll be some sort of thing that fucking sucks up all the co2 awesome. Shit, man. Good.

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Yeah. Look, that'd be nice. wouldn't let me

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watch the Bill Gates documentary. Look at the money that tipping into solving these big problem. Yeah, and they still can't get there just aren't.

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No, he says no, I'm a kiwi citizen. So I can't vote over here. You vote?

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Yeah. You go vote. Yeah, donkey? Don't wait. You got it? What if we all said, you don't vote once every four years or three years? What? Why don't we just say, we vote three times a year? Imagine that too much admin? I'm not I'm not not No, not an election, in your mind. Right? So you go to your big vote. But all your little votes are attending this rally, or go to this go to this thing. We're discussing something. I think this is a big vote because at Christmas dinner, I'm going for it.

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So for someone like me, just someone's opinion, not necessarily. Right, nor left, not like I'm just sort of a bit sort of in the middle, maybe a little bit

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left.

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If,

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like, I wonder, like, I think about how my understanding with it. And then I put the frame of say, my dad or someone who's sort of more conservative. Do these things act to create change ish? Or does it create more division and get those people who is a tonne more division and fact that if 40% of people are divided forever, and one of them's in your family, bad luck? Because you just need to work like politics. You need to work for a majority and it's not left that right. It's right wrong.

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It's not lifting, right. We're talking about just going it's big. It's the big man. I sound like a foil hat guy. Right, but I'm just not.

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You sound like a lefty

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Lyft This is a weapon. Yeah, but you hate the word millennial. You wouldn't Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Right, because it's a weapon. But the word millennial is a weapon used against you guys, right? Because we call your pansies and soft, soft Cox or whatever, like, bunch of soft millennials entitled bearer. Whereas we know that you've dropped into a world where you they're telling you can't buy a house, they're telling you, the world's gonna blow up, you know, climate crisis. That's a ship. That's a ship thing. You know, they like so they using words against your left and right, left and right. It's whoever is still whoever is still burning fucking brown coal, because of because of money is a song.

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Yeah. And so I guess simple. Yeah, I guess I guess there are those things that are blatantly obvious, those types of scenarios. But then, I guess, as you get to more and more nuance, then it is no longer a right or wrong thing. It's a right or wrong thing based on your own personal values. But don't you think that there's an empathy bit in not not allowing for prejudice behaviour, so you say Andrew bolt or whatever, in that Adam goods taco, and you're like, oh, he's actually just being a piece of shit. And but there are he's what he's, he's what he is doing. Trying to be malicious. There's something like there's something that's fucking not necessarily writing in his thinking. But I think that if you look at the broader spectrum, that being a more obvious case of it just being No, he's wrong. What about like the light and shade where it's like, you've got a Christian like someone who is extremely religious, who doesn't you know, if I can believe in abortions or whatever that is,

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if you if you let your if you let some ancient beliefs or whatever, allow you to then torture or make someone else's life uncomfortable. You're a bit of a prick. Right? But if you did it, but in the Andrew bolt thing, I think about this a lot. I still haven't decided whether he's an absolute asshole. Or a first class, fully fledged. Super ass all right. And if he's just going on, this is my job to be an asshole, then that's unforgivable. That is completely unforgettable. If he's just a dirty, horrible,

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yeah, weighted, pasty person and believes that, that he's just an asset. So we can understand like as you because I,

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I listened to my mother publishing, I've done it

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yet. I don't understand that perspective. Like, I don't understand where he's coming from, which, I guess in the broader range of issues when you look way broader, and then it becomes not so easy to distinguish. It's more than nuance type of thing. So some people saying, Okay, well, it's not listen to that, or just characters and

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it's pretty low.

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But I think that it's from a day to day point of view. For me. I wonder, me being out there dancing. I think it's great that other people are doing I'd love to say that

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don't be self Josh. I'm telling you get out there. I mean, jumpers

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is to promote it to the thing,

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no, use you

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I say however using our the reverse to give him a

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great opportunity.

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But also stick

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stick up on there, then.

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What do you think? No, I appreciate it. I think it's, it's not a go to, we can only go and experience it and see what see what see if it is you don't know if your thing is it doesn't come naturally for us to have a desire to not do what we're doing on a day to day basis to go and do that. But does that mean it's should be done on not auto night? It just that's why it's like going do it? I appreciate that go and do it.

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I mean, the thing is getting started so getting arrested or whatever around it.

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Then what are you talking about? I'm just talking about go to a rally where you just begin a rally at my level?

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Is that the difference? Not locking into shit? Yeah,

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covering myself in concrete.

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Well, so this is the interesting thing that I guess

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whatever you wanna you might

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never get it. So I understand like that. That seems very different the difference between standing up for something or whatever. But it seems like whatever this thing is, that's happening PK would be good to have on the show, given his involvement. But there's, there's, you know, there's cops saying hey, like there's, there's a way of protesting, which is the official, this has been approved, and you can go and do it. And then there's the one that's happening at the moment, which is just disruption

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is the one I'd be up for that now. Because this is the it's crunch time to try and keep my kids alive until they're old. Yeah, but just isn't gonna happen. Yeah, but when it's rally time, I'm not saying go and be an extension rebellion lock honour. I'm saying go to the go to the rallies because there is a voting day. If 100,000 people turn up every every Friday or whatever, march through the city, then it it has an effect on the decision making. Sadly, they have to wait for that.

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There's actually an event coming up that I think we could probably all go to. It's our 500th live show.

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29 29th of

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October. There's limited seats, guys. It's like 70 Max, you want to stand up for good coffee? Are you 79 the best coffee and yeah, you want to show your support for some gronk get behind this. Where is it Mr. Nice and where do you find the tickets

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in our Instagram by

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bucket I'm just testing Instagram by

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he's actually got a really interesting ally. Fact today. Yeah, we're wrapping up. So just love

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this one. Okay. During World War Two, the military built simulated neighbourhoods on the rooftop of the Douglas Aircraft Factory as camouflage from the Japanese bomb squads. The simulated neighbourhoods with complete with fake cars, roads, homes and trees made of Berlin knitting plywood and other materials. actors were hired to inhibit these spaces. San Diego insights literally on the top

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actors Yeah, pull Boston actor and

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the extras

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on the extra money and two cars drive around.

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So that will fake so everything's all like set in place or whatever. And they've just got like people like faking going in cutting all the trade showing and Cardozo's it's literally like on top of a building roof and it looks like they've just rolled out grass or like burlap or whatever and built trays and

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it's up it's like a netting material. That's what a

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patient sort of thing.

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Did you wait did you finish in fabric? Yeah,

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burlap?

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Yeah, just smart kid 97

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you know about the metal cows. And the metal is a classic one now Europe.

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So when I was sticking with a life if you

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had a sorry, but it's the same thing.

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different country cows don't just stand near a fields or artillery. They fuck off somewhere else. So they made cows out of corrugated iron and stood them around so that the spotters wouldn't say How about this you know the care of the tree that's some reference to that you know in the data Docklands IM been a document it was in the shops at least say I

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the when I was in Turkey last year sort of police car drove past it was a cutout

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of a police car

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made out of wood that basic on the side right looks like a like

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a people like yeah she's she's you see cops in panic even if you haven't done in the fair anyway I would love you to come to our live show tickets are going to be gone if you don't get in the limited limited I'll get you in if

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they say it sold out.

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I'll pay this man if you somehow go to our link now Bye Oh, and there's no more tickets and you rock out with a microphone with

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fucking let you know you need

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to bring it as some form of old lanyard is some kind

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of lanyard presents a gronk move and we appreciate and that

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just do that you don't have to just go on to our Instagram account for the next I guess the next two weeks will be up until the event do we said the date of the event 29th of October Tuesday the 29th of October. It's in Abbotsford we would suggest there's parking

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plenty of parking at the hive which is a car park The entrance is literally next door but all through the streets for our parking to our parking because it's after 630 payments next off

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john nichols Nicholson straight Yeah, anyway still talk show cinema guys Hey guys.