- July 28, 2019
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It's a daily Talk Show Episode 407 week in advance and we got full gronk squad
this is the band back together from shipping that's it Kellen wolf my house my and our heart man for the daily talk show but also just ship it in ship liberty.
Far out how a man good Thanks. Thanks for having me. We also this is way different. The last time I was on the show. Oh, what he's saying.
Josh had a tape recorder and it wasn't a
1700 dollars with what episode was at 50 cent? Yeah. It's a long time ago. So we did a road trip up to ship we. I mean, I still don't even know what you do for work. But you have a label that
says all I know.
But he also runs nights in fact, in your promoter. That's it. That's a stinky word, isn't it?
Yeah. I think promoter when you're doing things like that is like when you're like 17 to like 21. And if you still doing it after that, then you're a bit of a I don't know, grab a gronk
or a gronk what
I would say I would say it's like what they've cost me is like creative director okay. Yeah. of like these businesses. Okay.
Which is a promoter see out of my creative directors magic in her own reality they just promoted no but you you put on nights and chicken So anyway, yeah, we had access through your homies at the that ins. And we were able to do our show for as opposed to calling in the deck the deck.
That's right. It's funny. Because TJ is always whenever I'm where we're in a regional town. It feels like he's fucking on why some bragging about a deck that's close by I think when we're in Ballarat
is it? No, literally when we were up there to film some stuff. You were up there. And you launched on the Thursday night. We were there on the Thursday. Yeah, we left Yeah,
yeah. So we opened up a cocktail bar downstairs called uptown just to keep things taking over and then there's going to be a deck upstairs. So that's about to launch real soon so we'll have like full in the state this year. They're everywhere. So
pretty much all the regional towns we got it
what do you have to do to have a successful venue? What was was the cash out?
I think it's just trading people really well. Because like you know, if you go to a different town you know from there people will be like really reluctant to support you at the start. So if you show them love something that they haven't got for a long time because a lot of people have the monopoly if you show them love then they'll just keep coming back it's it's that cheap drinks killing I
get drink cats and cheap drinks free fireballs free drinks free
there's a photo that must have come out you like a memory memory not that long ago it was me had like lanyards on like just like ramen Coghlan you remember that
yeah no fucking I think you're doing some honey Jimbo most of these regional towns they put on these like I don't know the alcohol labels come you probably organised a bunch of them but there's like it's almost like the alcohol promotion yet for the vent and then they give you a bunch of free shit
yeah like regional towns get like really excited about that like just like the kids in the town they're like oh my god Jim Beam girls and it's just like these girls from here and who come down in a car.
Yes, I can still be jumping.
Like they are GC you're bragging on Jim baby
Do you think do you think
of loving Makati God do you think when you
are being more thoughtful around doing shit with promotional goes like
differences Milwaukee tools
have they don't do in Australia nothing no promotional window feels no like yeah girls holding drills and shit of candidate from the any of their promotional promotional stuff. Jemaine gills was the thing we did a fucking remember when Stacy and I were doing that Friday's house party thing where we'd go we did a broadcast of the show. This is Stacy doesn't follow me on Instagram. She isn't following me neither this Tracy
just Oh, really? And this is
I'm sorry. Oh, I shouldn't say
anyway, I went
oh my god, we went to this sad dude. So sad in Marina and we rocked up in those 5am we're going to do this setup to this broadcast. He got this sort of like big fire going for us. And I just smelled Jim Beam on his breath. And then I look over and there's just a Jim Beam G string hanging up and then his wife comes out and it's just a very sad moments. Listening as a
poet I feel like there was a problem as well a pole what
they want Yeah, no, that's authentic when there's a Paul
j string that's genuine. Do you think Jim Beam and all these things they still do? like are they pushing promotional events with girls not not towards us? I think more so in like bigger crowds, like you know, your whole like Baptist and VA cards and your big sort of concert series and things
you're bugging gatherings is what you're trying to be
the there was a time I feel that there was a big push to having your own bar. I can't like the wooden bars at home like my dad had one word so it was almost like the trivia mama like drain yeah and your arm bar that you sort of go behind I feel like that's not much of a name you know you need a bit of space
I think I suppose if you live out you know if you don't live in an apartment yeah but one bedroom just on the balcony playing with affected by actually think you're right i think like a bunch of my mind stats handle that that was like it was like a real sort of fraud moment with a comic check out the bar.
Yeah, with a vintage Coca Cola bottle they go
study hall this
raybould lot, you know the fucking old rebel signs. That's right. They're throwing them out
in the front.
Australian but I guess it's like the the American cabin style like the hunting cabins and shit. Yeah, they more of a thing over in the states in the winter. Probably in Canada 3d deal. Yeah,
I've got a lot of hunting cabins.
Lots of you know, dead carcasses on the wall with that cold weather.
Accidentally. Yeah. Well,
technically, they are. But yeah, they just stuffed moose deer and stuff. Yeah, but anyway, it's a bit bargain, isn't it?
And so Cal, you were Tommy's house, man.
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I'm defined when you when you talk about
is one of the things. One of my groomsmen are waiting. I'll get laid with that. gronk Really?
together for another year or something, was it?
Yeah, it was we moved to ship it. I mean, if I don't need to bring up again, but I will.
I had Tommy chip on his shoulder. Because someone left a comment saying that on podcast, he's like, listening to a few mates and one of them just happens to have lived in chat.
like a like we worked together at standard
triple m shepherd, and then it
changed across Australia.
Well, we knew it would have been got done FM in Star FM and now he did fame Yeah, when I got there. I didn't know anyone and kale had just rocked up as well. And so where these new newbies tanks working and then I was living with a girl who gathered here and put into a jar that she's Jesus my God,
I like it just did not realise as
well as been I had my own nutcase as well we
remember that we both landed with some proper house Yeah,
and so we were like we need to live together back and we like tissue issue or something I feel like more than a tissue issue man it was a fucking century Paddy shoe. Okay, just ran the house.
It was I think she was in love with it wasn't she took
I don't know.
Everything comes back to that. Why didn't the client work out they left me.
So we did that. Like we did the radio there for I don't know a couple years when it was time for us. Tommy was there we were. I mentioned Tracy for Tracy was there other hazmat? That's why I brought that
up. Jason Stacy good nights and we played a lot of frisbee and we dreamed about getting out of the
did we play rugby every
afternoon and we drank a lot of ciders. ciders just and it was just it was how you Josh just drinking red wine? How you feel? Yeah, imagine like being outside but we were enjoying we were enjoying the sun sunshine throwing the Frisbee. And it was some of the best time there was
a good time actually we had we had fun back in Melbourne versus every weekend but we
just vegan free
living that the one we're in New York you literally bought a beer off a guy
but then you throw the Frisbee remember when
I sent you a photo kill?
Dude, my I've never got onto a frisbee like I didn't.
Yeah, we're all about like passionately about frisbee at one point where we thought this is the sign it was Frisbee. Maybe
it was anything else. What's the high end frisbee code? There's one that sort of that has a hole in the it's
not a high end one that's just a rugby,
frisbee It's what we call it free speech. But it's not Roby frisbees, the disc is where the frisbees come from we've we've done a bit of research into this
dish 10 leads that were original like like thing middle nights Patreon dish till it like is India that are all like just in metal and they people started throwing them around with the originated in California. Yeah, and then somebody just mark with the idea that they could just get it in a conference centre they plan this whole thing I said I wrote I even wrote it out. I was like, This is what we should do the origins of free speech.
Because what's the thing that people play together? That's frisbee
Yeah, for all Yeah, I've actually I filmed in Dallas Texas. A guy playing frisbee golf it's just like they take it so seriously and they have their whole life bag with like all that like different way to fucking say aerobics I'm guessing because yeah, yeah
get some good distance on the
road get pissed and if I can think of the best trick shots Did you say is ever playing like when you were driving through share my think of
my musk Yeah, Lucien if you
did that. You will like hipsters. Yeah,
we're talking about and I talked about it. You talk about it.
You might catch me damn chef.
So what should we be doing because Tommy had his show it originally with candy hurts. Stacy June That's right.
And he actually follows me this can't
follow it on Instagram. I'm just assuming this day she doesn't follow me but I'm surprised it doesn't follow Yeah,
I mean I To be honest, I haven't check because I didn't care I don't
care what you know what i can do I'll follow and follow follow and follow follow and I think
you just don't want to and I reckon by the
following and I'm following really nothing to do no
follow sorry unfollow didn't follow and then it was a birthday two weeks ago just like that
Are you serious? Yeah. One half of the
fight that it was just something just
like this chat would this could leave me with an unfair followed follow it
let's see if I leave it all and all locker last four photos no no just
bought it literally think you're a fucking bought now
she bought to remember I was on a radio show with him.
Anyway, my show with
the triple m brand of of the ship and radio station up there with a guy called Stephen Walter and we were walling kill for breakfast from six.
I love that they didn't. They didn't want to go with Kellen Wally's and I'm because I said it sounded like a regional town. Kellan Walla.
Walla Yeah. I think that was something I actually had a point now looking back it was so you decided on Wally and kill walling? It used to be it was originally Wolf Man and Willie blossoms Wolf and so we played on that but that was back in 10 with that
I like Wolf Man Yeah. Nice. I love my when I was growing up the spoon man. Yes, Bernie
bad. Me follow it followed his career.
Yeah, well, I just sort of picked it I dropped the ball and then picked it back up
East Be Good Charlotte triple. I'm not like sort of Colin like a
voice. Oh, my, like he had that sort of real sort of just right
at the old school, right? Yeah, yeah.
Definitely triple m standing up, you know,
the thing about football? Yeah, I could get much exclusively
talk about being an alien coming to ship it and you know, you're you're born and bred ship. ship back. What was it like? What I mean, there's, there's a lot of talk, we had a segment which was six degrees of separation, which actually we tried to take to the great Valley it worked lots of ppl didn't have a string of probably still got it up find anyway, but it was like who has a connexion to the GV the ground valleys shepherd. Shit loads of people did. Yeah, some great people have come out of there and including you.
Thank you. Yeah, now it's a great town. I just love the community about it really, like, I see like, I've obviously made heaps of friends in the city. And a lot of them don't get to catch up with their mates as regularly as I do. So if I go home, I'm always going to see someone I know will run into, you know, this old teacher or person or someone I've worked with. Whereas like in the city, I feel like it's a lot harder for people they just like separate and you have like one or two friends on our friends like who was still home. They catch up with the same like 10 to 20 people every weekend.
Yeah, and you know, everybody even ship it and nobody man it's like people
like to be out there
with everyone and just get along
who's the most successful person out of shipping and that you know,
Tommy wasn't born in shipping.
Hey, like it's it's a tough one. Like there's people in a lot of different industries. I'm
not talking about like someone that bought a bunch of real estate sort of agencies just like someone that's it's breaks.
Yeah, right now it's probably like, like, in our generation, like, I think my like steel side bottoms done really good. He's the CO captain of Collingwood. I want a couple premierships and yeah, like, he's a lot like Briggs too. Yeah, braids. You know, I live around the corner, like, pretty much two blocks away. Who was my brother's? He is a couple years older. He's a rapper.
Yeah, he's a rapper.
He's an actor, Mr. XI. Yes, no,
yeah, he's even on cone. If you're an international viewer of our show. He was on Conan. What was he like? When Conan came back? Kinda has been doing his like, overseas international shrimps came to Australia and brings us back in there. Just that's hash. It's done.
Yeah. And he was also on Tommy candy show.
That was, this is it was
Yeah, we released the rap video, which was sort of brand damaging for him being aligned with a rap battle with you.
Yeah. Definitely editing that audio. Sound like Rep. So what sort
of account what sort of preparation would you do for your
radio show a lot more than Tommy would have done but he's
not like it was like it's one of those things regional radio where you do you know, it's just you basically you got to interact, but he's not involved, really. Somebody would know but you just sort of after you get off air at nine or whatever, 10 o'clock. You just start prepping for the next day and probably take it till two o'clock. And just it's but it's just you what you do. You know, it's it's a fair bit of work to do original radio show in terms of a content show, because there just isn't the coming. What the fuck this is like Fox breakfast over here. This poor people this produces Yeah.
We've got more people
than they were in the ship in an office.
What the hell's going on here?
Would you have to do?
We've got a microphone and
there's an American here, which Canadian Canadians write a deal. Is that because you work in animation?
I have a 3d printer.
And you give him your elevator pitch. I've never asked that question. What's your elevator pitch?
My elevator pitch? Yes. Oh, that's so we
just walked into the elevator
thing? Why don't take the Lyft level? I'm going
to you got 20 seconds tell kill about you because he said Oh, good. I might you American. Not him. Kevin idea. Yeah.
Yeah, that's my elevator pitch. Geez, I don't know man. You've you've turned me you've you've stumped me. That's why I can't stop the singing again.
Oh, hi, cow. This is a three day do. Hi, I'm 3d Dell and I introduced you already.
Canadian. I'm an industrial design student. I just wrote a book. I've travelled to Australia.
book about industrial design.
Okay, just about having a 3d printer. No, no, you'll have to read the book. That's what we
moved halfway across the world to work with these girls. Unbelievable. Yeah, well, not bad.
That's very cool. Yeah, I don't want to change focus.
Intense elevator pitches.
Yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean lifts up, it's I have noticed that I'm actually exercising more I'm on the fifth level at my apartment. And I will just like, why prefer to take the stairs? Yeah, I just don't want to have to like the other day I actually have at this this is something I'd never done before in the lift. I was in the lift and I was coming from level five had to go to ground level for the lift opened. And it was people with stuff like furniture and now moving and I go You just wait just keep going. I might know that's fine. And I walked out of the Lyft past them and then just went down the stairs. So they could then take the couch and stuffing
is it a fear of being in the elevator? Is that
yes the fear of Converse
Well, I had the same thing like is up in the radio station every time because you can leave just should the salt fire escape from the top level the fox and I prefer to do that cuz you Australia In Australia the anxiety escape? Just having like an awkward just quick back and forth with someone I don't know. At the at the station. Well imagine I remember. Like there's a smile like you're hard. I know. You don't know me we smile each other because we know we both work here and then that's it. What are you gonna do? How are you? It's no time for it's
not that Yeah, spread the lift in Clarendon strain. I felt like I've had many
quirks like that back.
No, I was just thinking. I really hate to live where I live.
It's not it's just there's
just there's a unified,
but you can't What floor are you on? 50 years?
4440 Yeah. Have you been up there? No, I have no it's fucking terrifying. On his balcony. It's like I don't want to go out there.
You've got a bar in your house.
Yeah, we got a barn in
the room if you got you've got a fucking stuffed toy. That's like a beer that bear
we had to let it go.
Ah. So much space like the bed was huge.
But if you get on the on the balcony look across to what's it called? What a what a marvellous it amount. Yeah, like it's like you look it's terrifying. I've actually done like being out. It's very hot. How'd
you get the beer tell tell us about this beer.
The bed? Well, taking back to ship it and I went to ship it in just for a bit of work. And then I came back and when I came back. my housemate was sort of filming me when I was coming back in. And I was like, This is weird. But we always film each other on like Snapchat, Instagram. And then I was just like, Hey, man, Bella, and I like go to my room. Open the door. And there's this huge bear that's like taking up the whole thing with a bottle of wine and attend and it looked like it was passed out on my bed was
he was in the bed.
Yeah, he just like it scared the shit out of me because like, I had to open the door, turn on the light. And there's just this huge bear in my bed. And then we just kept it like we just put it in the corner. And then every time someone come over that we're just so obsessed with this bear. We just kept it in the corner and people were just taking photos with it.
It's cute. Can you look it up Costco beer, Costco, giant beer. How much does it cost? Sit find out. And the thing was
like, there's like a big like, shed rubbish space down the bottom hard rubbish. And my housemate found it down there. So we're trying to think of like, what was the storey? Maybe like someone broke out with someone put it down there dumped it and then he just took it back out? Yeah. And then like he's put it down there. I wonder if it's still in the building.
You've got a whole lot of internationals in your building. Yeah, this hates head and the student and so maybe they just buying shit and like short term, they're just like, I gotta go. Get me all this cash the
ridiculous bit. They're not gonna podcast talking about this stupid. A made ones buying a band like that. It's fucking ginormous. Be
a good gift for like a girlfriend or wife. You gotta
have you gotta have a place for it.
Yeah, but would you put it on a lot of
people on the balcony? I wouldn't want it outside.
What do you do with it? If he threw it out?
Oh, I saw it back. And then there was a BA like in the colon. And I was like, where the big guy? And he's like had to I had to get internet delivery guy
you just bought into the like the wall? Like I just hung my TV's massive. If I put the power I did. I can put it into a you know, you're gonna find the stud. And you're into the I can go
and you feel after it after? I do.
Want to get that? No, no, no, but about the shit out of the
black like, yeah, did you have a good electrician? 70 bucks second hand. Second.
The second entity but yeah, who
takes it from the dumpster?
What is it? 70 if it's 70 old, you'd have said be about 217 UE think
small bear with my ex member I'd say about a little bit and that cost me like 70 bucks. 60 bucks. And it was like, you know, like half a human waste of money. Right?
He got thrown FJ. I
mean, all presidents given by x's, you know, like, you know licencing the breakout. They go on
now. She took the jewellery. I did she
she kept she likes melted down probably
she kept the jewellery but she wouldn't take the bit.
I mean, I had this ring, this Tiffany and co ring, which I really liked it. It was from an ex girlfriend had nothing, no sentimental value to me at whatsoever. It was just like a silver ring with like a titanium sort of band was sick. And I kept I just had it there. And Naomi found it. She's that faxes Who gave you this? In the early days? She was like, What is this? And then she found also this is when I was in shepherd and she also because she came down from Sydney and Leanne stayed at the house while we're at work and she and she found some makeup
so I can just imagine you're at work and she
was like that she
said all the goal that
she found this major and she was like the facts. I can't remember She even said it's in bridge. I know
so far I've never seen so far she's she swears more now.
But I was like that's my manga. Tommy
fix me up does it.
But she thought it was a girls. I mean,
I feel like I've seen a video of you doing like a cross. Like did you do TV stuff? like did you have to do regional stuff as we did for the white knights? The original Australian was called the because like there was a channel 10 like a whatever the sci
fi whatever the original 10 that the SCI was running and I had like a local kind of a count of is not kind of fair but like storeys I suppose it was kind of newsy Show the camera to ship it and and so they asked the radio team content, same test I'm doing doing spots, because I needed to feel 30 minutes
was that before we were in Chevron? Do you remember back when you were growing up was the week?
There was weak nuts? I think that was like something that came in about the time that you guys came.
Yeah, yeah, I needed I mean, I felt it. I couldn't I can't blame me for it but cultivated jealousy when I was just looking on Facebook and I just see you fucking having conversations with the new breakfast host and chapter. And I was like,
have you been on those shows? Oh,
yeah. Stacy started calling me about Hi.
Hi, man. He's on to the new breakfast host he was on to me when we became good mates comes to my wedding. Josh didn't even come into where
did you even know?
heard of you before. Sneaking I'm like the girlfriend that comes out of nowhere. Let's just sort of Yeah.
Show but now like is you know, it was like you said it came out of nowhere. I was like,
well, because we always work it like when did you sleep? Yeah, sorry. Oh, no, we actually met each other for the very first time would have been 2009 no follow guys.
I'm gonna start on following and follow it's my second everyone will tell me
Monash I week. 2009 I was filming for this company. And Tommy was the presenter.
so that's how I but then there was like no contact. Right We just did a shoot and that was the it was done. Yeah. But then I guess it like TJ is one of those people who just similar I think be max sort of similar vibe where they're just sort of fucking everywhere, you know, just sort of popping out. Definitely. Yeah, but social bottom. Yeah. And so TJ would always be in the I think when I was working at Fifi and jewels in digital content. TJ you would have been doing massive been on the back end of doing Jupyter now not shepherd and I reckon you were straight team do you ever do that in a bit of straight? Yeah, it is. And you would you would have been coming into jewels or whatever
you would like triple MID triple a triple m black red carpet shit.
Yeah. Where they call me man about town the
the man on the street? Yeah, yeah,
yeah, the man on the street
way connected probably. What 2015 16 and it was just at that I was probably one of those friends where it's like you with the started out proper friendship was when like it was his wedding was happening and all that so yeah, Josh away would have been on the phone. Well, you know,
because I've met some people, at least one that like after the wedding that was there. And I felt really bad. But I'm probably like the
worst on I feel good. Yeah, social butterflies have feelings to me. And I say this guy, if I can just chat and chat the way I would just sigh and I'm just
is that the new breaky show?
Yeah, so what's the deal, man? What's this about?
You on the frequency frequently? What's going on?
Not on there as frequently as I was on, you know? Yeah, Tommy and candy. Yeah, I'm
Stacey not and I don't even know who that girl is.
He follows follows let me just check on definitely not have a follow up from her. Like, I'm almost certain that nothing
he's an ALRIGHT guy. But so I work at a record label in the city. And he's best friends best friend also works there. And then randomly, he was like, do you know the new radio host? intan. I was like, No, really. He's like, my friend in shed alibis that hook him up. So I made a phone call. It was like Saturday night. And then like, he couldn't believe it because this like whole tray of drinks like 12 drinks and 12 shots just like came out. And I was like, enjoy your night as I tell them to enjoy the night. And they called me back straightaway and they were like water. Like, thanks so much. Bye bye. Berto started
I can't be pissed off. He's got me that many free drinks.
Big currency or entry?
drinks. Yeah, she pulls your brother. Oh.
I see you guys. Probably just
to be honest, I never fucking care. I know I'm not offended. I don't care at all.
I haven't even thought about it until we brought it up and May Allah thumbnail productive
Well, I don't know. I said Josh found Yeah,
I do it and say this I end up looking like the fucking idiot amongst the whole thing because I was the one that discovered it
because I only recently discovered that and I love it. So she's not gonna mind but try some followed me. Yeah. And then I had a look because I thought maybe it's just me, but it's you. It's it's Wally. Just any anybody could.
I mean, people hurt people is Josh says, Yeah, the radio shows the different ones you saw come up throughout your years living in Chevron because there's probably a high turnover of regional radio. Our presenters in there is Melvin showers. Melvin breakout 10 years, Matt and Joe. Tracy, Matt, and you know, what was your observation about the gronk that rolled into town?
Yeah. Like, I think the turnover was so crazy, but like everyone who came through Shepherd in seems to be doing well. Like it's a big like, like stepping stone, I guess in terms of your career. Like, you hustle it out for like, a couple years there a year and you move on? That's what I always felt, especially with news reporters, like everyone that like when news is like doing amazing things now. But yeah, like with radio is kind of like, one year, two years didn't like you really wouldn't say them more about the table like actually integrating into those towns. Yeah, I'm like someone really good. Someone like you will good. Like, there were those people who are good, like if you talk to them, but I feel like a lot of them were just like, be scared of the locals or something was scared to go out. They wanted to, I guess I moved their whole lives. And if they did come from Melbourne, they're only two hour trip away. They go home. Where's desire? Just to bring him up. He's from Sydney. So like, he's like, you know, playing at a local soccer team is doing like some other things like it within the community. I think that's because he's got further to travel.
Yes. Well, he's from that city. Yes. Yeah.
I mean, you were playing with
like, I got into
your into a gym.
Yeah, the people there that community like, Who's the Jackie? Like all of the people that worked at jacobin brother pies. What about? you leverage those? Yeah, those that you leverage the job to go and meet the people. If you're not a people's person. Like if you if we didn't drink? I don't think we would have met half the people.
We plan to go to every bar. And I think we actually did it.
You know, how many fucking bars and pubs out of it all You think?
Yeah, yeah. There's like there's lots more than like we I mean, we ended up going to the same places just because we ended up getting free drinks but
Yeah, all right. a shepherd and population is the 97
It's interesting. Yeah, it's interesting.
the locals understand national shows versus local shows it isn't any local ZX. I actually think that hey, mission ND are
doing the same in the same studio is that Tommy and that happened from what I understand before before our time, but will tell us so they that the that there would be some ship locals that would come in and be like a savage and Andy. And because they're coming, you know, it's like, it's shipping and right. Do
you think baby I can promise like in high school?
I think my dad was in journalism. So I was like, always kind of knew that. You know, the big guys were so behind the curve. Yeah. But like to me, and this brings it back to like you in the community and stuff. Like people who were on the radio were like, kind of like famous in our town. And I still think kids I think they are as well. And especially with like social media and stuff these days. Like it's like, oh, that's that guy off the radio. That's that girl off the radio? Because like, yeah, like they're on the radio every day you hear him going to school going home and stuff like that. So like, I think there was this big ship liberty for life about these radio hosts that come into town.
You remember john crane had a fucking billboard? Some backwater of shepherd, and but it's still
still a billboard. Is it host of that White Nights TV show? He wants to jump right into that. Did you?
Yeah, they still keep in contact with him. Yeah, yeah. Hello, Joe crane. If you're listening
on the show
did yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hope it doesn't fall in a couple of
months. We're talking
this weekend banter this.
When you said come in, and then you look back. I'm like, Ah, it's all going to be about shipping. Because I'm not fighting from there. Okay.
Tommy, so talks about how much is Tommy changed? From shipping to now? What do you guys What? What's the progress? What's the change with Tommy do you think?
Yeah, might not be the right word.
It's pretty much the same guy. He drinks a lot less whitelist drinking. So I guess that's progress of a con. is probably more mature. He's married, he's got a kid, all those things that come with, um, and there's nothing like he wasn't like, you know, shooting heroin or whatever new life he was, you know, he's basically the same guy. Oh, is it still in the fitness attitude?
Yeah, yeah. into it.
We have people who listen like we've, we're on radio today, like the can industry sites a few months ago. And so we've gained a few listeners who were hosts in regional towns, they've got a show. What was your perspective of being an original template? And now, where you are now, what's, what's your view on the whole thing?
Well, I worked in a couple of original stations before. So my first commercial radio gig was Tamworth, which is like regional, New South Wales, England, New South Wales. What's Tamworth nine for the Country Music Festival is gonna be a big shout out to that photo in front of that before I left, but that's actually a really, we've talked a lot about ship and let's talk about talent for but not it's actually a really cool tan, little lot of music, they've got their own sort of identity. So I had fun. I spent a couple years there, just to be a music guy. Like I feel like if you go into one of those areas, you have to be all about the music. I actually started gigging you know, doing some weekends and stuff on and off when I was up there, because I met a few muses and applied music sort of my lot. But that's it. Now you got three music, you should have been writing but there is a lot of it's, it's their identity in many aspects. Good tan, but then the main, the my co host got moved to, to wall and gone and was there for about a year. And then we got moved all the same throughout the whole thing. Nice. So it was a super radio network. And then what's wife grant broadcasting? And so just how do you actually jump ship? Is it that you can lose a job and then find another one? Or do you have companies saying, Hey, we like what you're doing. We come across now. We said, I think we sent demos we sent me and we'll send some demos out from Tamworth because I always ready I mean, this is the thing so far away from Melbourne so far away from home in Tamworth and that like you stay that you can't get home like the closest kind of beaches like Newcastle which is three hours away so Shepherd, it must be like hitting the lottery if you're a male Bernie and in regards to regional I thought it was when I first when I first got the call that we're going to move like I was like, Well, at least I can get home because it was so far away from home it was really good. So I I did I did go back probably too much really. And got a bunch of spring funds. But every weekend I was back there but you sort of send demos out and I mean you would know but you sort of sent hope for the best and hopefully someone thinks you sound alright and put you on another show
getting jobs or you have jobs is a weird thing is you've got to be using company time to
auto job that the other day with someone Dan elec.
Who's, you know, great media personality. He was working in Al Jazeera that was a storey an article about it where he was going for another job duties fucking demo in the studio using the equipment, which I reckon we've all fucking done a version of that, right?
Yeah, well, he lost his job quick storey we, me and me and wall when we were my curse, war and wound on the wave of him. And we had it and we wanted out. And so we needed a studio. And they monitored the white. I mean, whatever they're doing now, that might be different. But one of them was, you know, recording security in terms of getting into you're off the rails and recording a demo. And we sort of couldn't get an opportunity to get a demo to give that we really wanted.
It's so fucking weird, though. Because it's the industry that you're in. What do they expect? You going to be like?
Well, it was just it was a it was a bad sign up there. We weren't. I mean, we went along, we got I think I'm talking about school, we do our experience. Personally, I'm sure it's been great for everyone else. But so we had to drive back we got some interest from from triple m as in the content guys in Melbourne, in terms of getting us into the network somehow. So we thought, Well, how are we going to do this, we ended up driving back to Tamworth, other weekend and recording demos at nighttime at the old radio station in Tamworth, because they be mighty getting up getting something together and sending it off to 50 a triple M and then we got us to do another one. So we ended up driving back a night so we drove like it was like four hours you know, like driving whatnot. Especially with walls like not enough. Not but yeah, we saw was like a massive it was it at that time, a massive effort to sort of get some runs on the board and get, you know, get some demos together. Right and it like now I think I don't know how we went to that much effort. But at the time, we were desperate to get out of London, we thought that was the only way we could do it. We thought to get interest from SEO was a good thing. So yeah, we did everything we could and was like the best way we could get enough studio time to sort of craft something. And so we did it like midnight to like four in the morning. drive straight back MIT drive it always now we stayed the night. And then and then because we had some friends in Tamworth and and he had he was friends while we're still friends with the manager and he led us in and didn't tell anybody else that we were there.
Now have a podcast the poser podcast? That's right.
Yeah, the plaza podcast. Check it out on Spotify.
Yeah, what's the main What's the difference? Is it a different muscle going from doing radio to nothing?
Yeah, totally. I don't think you would, you would. But
you know, you talk about the things you kind of have to talk about. And it's kind of very limited instruction with any commercial radio station
and nature political orders at politics.
Religion that was the reason we caught a pose obviously in deviates from that, but that was kind of the original idea. We We both sort of, I'm not particularly politically minded, but we both kind of, you know, we wanted to discuss slightly heavier issues, things he never kind of would have a chat about on non commercial radio.
I said, Oh my god, like I feel like sometimes opening it up not having the restrictions when you can start talking about everything, do you start actually working your own limitations like fact we can talk about this thing now, but I actually can't be fucking like
entering into it. I suck sometimes I feel like certain things are a little bit draining. And we also because it's kind of it's just left to us and you two would obviously know you kind of battle with each other a little bit in terms of what you think's important the kind of guests that you might want to have on and you know, it's just a small little podcast, but you know, we've had guests that I was like, you know, really what do they bring to the table? All of them are love Don't get me wrong, but beforehand, it's like on the end so it's like I'm not gonna let them down this hill but yeah,
it's just a lot of them because then I mean, I've felt thought that at times but then it's if you look at everyone has something to say everyone is you know, there's something interesting Batman
Oh, that's that's absolutely true. And And the thing is, I'm really interested in people and I like to think I'm a conversational so I papers person but people person so I you know, I think everyone's got their own storey and I like to get that out of them and I like to you know the freedom to have an open long form conversation I you know, it's super fun tonight really really enjoy it
just the opposite of radio
which is the opposite of it I mean form and compared to sort of you know, I'm like a work that Josh just you know, just you know, work weekends whatever just doing music shifts for for a radio station in Melbourne that's that's 32nd grabs you know that's like that's you know, basically saying that you know, this tickets up for grabs in the babe is 15 minutes away. So you know, as there's an art to that as well, but obviously it's not really the same thing. Is there a place for regional radio as a mechanism to be a broadcaster? Do you think or like if you would if you were having a day again, in 2019 would you go straight to the poser podcast or would you be doing you know going to town with our fellow by the way just checking out of the Stacy June fallen?
How would you do that? If this was a news thing because I sound listen to an audio book about radio if you had to report on that you'd have to say like no official
for a interrupted
breaking news Stacey Jane has fallen back we have reports we ever got confirmation yet we've got report we've got no confirmation until we actually have anyone from the I was on the lock trying to just live
like this hitting the light like Now let's go back real creepy and get back from 23rd at
all a lot
yet last couple of photos I'm
not get such I would do it differently. If I had one kid, Josh, I think at you know, I was super green super naive when I first as everyone is when you get into and I just wanted to said you've got to go regional, you've got to get some some hours in if you want to be on and all the rest of it. And there's still I'm not saying don't do it. And if you want to be there's only limited opportunities to be on here. But realistically, I would you know, I'll try I've been I joined the straight team you know, at wherever in Melbourne if I had if I had my time again and I'd start a podcast and I'd do content of my own bed and I'd stay in Melbourne is I think it speaks to this is honestly model what I believe I'm saying if you have an opportunity to go you know wherever I'm not saying don't do it, but may I feel it was a lot of time wasted right?
So potentially what you saying is you'd be better off taking a sideline role like a digital content producer in a metro market then I think it's gonna get in the door
Yes. Because you're in the door when you're you're in their face they know who you want as opposed to sending just a random email account sends you Hey, Mike, you ever listen to this, this is my last break from Friday. And you know as much everybody's doing that and as much as you know in theory it's a good idea and in theory they should want to help you want to listen it doesn't mean as much as actually you know having contact with someone knowing their name knowing their face being able to have a conversation with them and saying hey, have a listen to this it means a lot more than
would do you guys have residual like fans like know like did you get move on from Market to Market D is your Instagram? Or you know social media
there's like a few Tamworth and I know now I'm while I'm gone development advanced won't go with this certainly a few time where they doing surveys like do you get like in regional areas you're getting back on God survey but they're they're a competitive market whereas and regional gets first serve it like shipping and get survey but it's kind of like if I doubt was
a survey in Metro markets I highly doubt the server is Yeah, in fact in regional towns in terms of actually understanding who's willing I don't even
I generally don't know what it means I'm going to sitting there and then reading out all these numbers for like, you know, shipments come up. But no one else is like what's up the ABC
actually partnered with the Jehovah's witness who would knock on doors would they really
just two for one Jehovah and the all bites
IVUB Mac have a what I love about you we spent some great hours drinking beers and just talking shit and listen to music you Did you have a great knack for seeing people who are about to pop Yeah, I don't know. What is it about that?
I don't know. I think it was
just being like in a regional area and not getting the opportunity myself with different things from sport to music.
Are you met hit would tell us about when you hit up DJ Snake. Along with being the hype man. He's also the greatest heart man for himself evolution writing people's second in a sanctums.
Yeah, I can even hardly remember what happened. But it was like way before we blew up is DJ Snake. He's huge. Yeah, he pretty much has changed the game of like pop music in the last like, four years, five years. Just in terms of the sand. Yeah. Um, but yeah, like ages ago, he was on my SoundCloud and I was following him. And I'm just like, this is the craziest sounds like I've heard in such a long time. It was so unique.
Seeking that stuff out like you actually actively What do you type in?
Sometimes I'm just like, it just trends. Like it just follows you out good luck. You might like someone and it'll just be like, it'll suggest listen to this person. And it'll get you on to this and sometimes, like, they'll only have like, you know, a couple hundred followers, but like, it'll just somehow find it for you. If not, like I'm searching for music myself just like, training, seeing who's getting or who's working with someone over here. Or I know that, like all the musicians who work together, it's like, that's not just that's not just Justin Bieber, who wrote that song. So I'll go through and I'll find out who wrote it and I'll go through that and I'll figure out what songs they wrote and who they're following on SoundCloud. Yeah, yeah, things like that. So
not today CJ.
Because she needs to be following me.
She follows Josh. She follows
guys she knows she picks talent
I think she probably thinks
I don't have the shepherd in a steak on you
guys, how about we don't tell storeys and we just bring it down to a mistake
that she made the reason that she's not following you
Yeah, that's a mistake by just having to you know doing a bit of a college
hoops not right so
that's that's a
storey it says me better. You're very good at not telling storeys I
need to need to
divulge too much into your own
never actually never. I can never fucking never. I mean, you're the guy that tells that guy end up doing because you
don't share much of yourself. Like it seems to be personal.
What do you mean, that's what you meant? Just like, Look into my social like, look into who's following who I'm talking
about what you divulge on the show.
You know, so when you say don't tell storeys or
storeys, you're telling a storey because we don't know which if that's true or not. Yeah, we don't know. Right now what you guys are storytelling to serve a narrative. Yeah, don't wait till everything is a storey we're telling storeys about fucking this junkie walking towards me what it all means. How do you feel?
Well, what do we how do we feel so bad for more junk?
As a storey
as a way of turning it positive? Yeah. What about if all of our listeners Stacy's got a great podcast? What about if you follow Stacy June? Yeah, on Instagram,
and just say, came here. From Tommy gentlemen jacket.
Yeah. Tommy jacket sent me here.
Yeah, I I think it probably is a mistake. I want to get further into this. But I'm
No, your story's changing over here too. I think with this appreciate, I appreciate it. But um, I wonder if there's going to be like algorithms or shit to be able to find people who pop like you work at a record label? Yeah, I wonder if you can, the SoundCloud thing, the finding the producer that the young kid feels like,
like homogenise is the whole thing though, in some ways, like, from a Spotify point of view. It's like, we're all going to be fucking listening to the same sort of shit, because we're going to be all in the same sort of
algorithms, maybe even like, beyond like just music platforms. It's like, just say, Instagram. Like, you'll see people in the top and it's like, why is that person in the top and you'll click on that and it's like, test six nine blew up pretty much. And there's all these artists like that are blowing up of Tiktaalik who making like 30 seconds Can you explain Tick Tock? It's pretty much just like to remember vine? Yeah, yeah, it's pretty much like vine, but with music and videos and people just trend on certain like verses or hooks. And they'll just do their own dance to it or, you know, create like a little film. And artists like starting to like get paid of Tick Tock like they're getting paid off Instagram where you can put their music on now. So like, tick tock is really like blowing up like it's a fourth biggest app in the world. And so if you're like trending on Tick Tock like you're gonna have like a platinum and single your way beyond Tick tock
Tick Tock. You'll be like you'd be a head like a shy still so far behind but like if you're there now like you can still go cuz I've seen like videos is not too late. It's not too late. too
early. Okay, because I did like they do the videos where it's like, my first day in Australia, I get a How you going? And it's like, fourth day in Australia.
Yeah, but that's it. It seems easy comedy. And so
there's there's this complexity.
Definitely. So you guys awake? Yeah. Tick Tock a day.
Yeah, you can do a tick tock a day.
I'd prefer what's
your work for Tick Tock?
I don't know I've not heard of this until you mentioned it just then I really
sort of I kind of
I kind of faded and we kind of talked about it the other day. Tracy Greenfield? Yeah. Not but now that the paedophiles love it.
Oh, yeah. Is that it's become
easy probably get young young boys and girls fully darling up doing.
Yeah, as crazy
as it isn't an app. So I'm sorry. The
young people doing very,
very is it exclusively just young,
the young or extremely out? Not really in between but it's an app on your phone
and internet. And you everyone follows you like you follow Instagram and I just load up little storey kind of it's a bit it's it's surrounded around music. So I think it would musically but that's
not because there's no talent.
Rather than using the singing voice its own miming. And so they raised a layer of attractiveness that hot people do well on Tick Tock because it's like, how how people will do well on Instagram.
On Instagram. Yeah, they've gotten rid of the locks. Yeah. Do you think that's gonna have an impact on I can still see them?
Yeah, I just you care about other people's lives other than
when I'm doing shows you care about you.
That's why we can still say you're on so I don't know the real problem other than I would look for high locked content because I'm trying to work out just what everyone's fucking thing I think it'll but i think
i think it'll make it a more genuine organic, like in terms of the content that's being liked. I think it'll make it more more genuine as opposed to people being influenced by the amount of likes that something gets.
I mean, what's the mindsets mind state of the person who is posting because they want other people to see the amount of likes they get? Yeah,
it's not easy narcissism, like which we all are. Yeah, for sure. Maybe I'm it's the level of success that a post has.
For me when I see the fucking number for myself, I'm not Oh, yeah, I'm not thinking Oh, yeah. Fucking how good's this gonna look on other people?
No, but as in anybody that anybody? I think a lot of people are influenced by the fact like if you say Selena Gomez, post something, and it's got, I don't know 300 400 500,000 million likes or whatever.
Yeah, I love the idea that you'd be so like, disconnected for like, two or 300 likes huge now
she's got about 80 million followers or something fucking out right. She was
the one that it's a
she was she was the most followed and then it was like keep up to date with the Cristiano Ronaldo was the most fine. I think it might even be Miss Mark, Mark. Now. It might be there might be a Kardashian
to weed one. Vin Diesel was like one of the biggest Facebook pages of all time for a long time.
That's weird. What's your thing? People go to pubs. And they do questions. trivia trivia. Yeah, well, what's the actual net is a trivia night pub trivia? Yeah, I feel like you'd be great at trivia. Maybe the Frisbee thing?
That up because we wanted to, like I don't know, somehow I was like we should video about the first be so I'm
older not like you sort of you know where Instagram like who's got the
blind spot for you. But
it is that's a just like radio content like is in just a quick you know, how if you if you're doing a music shift, yeah, you need however many breaks. And you've got to have you know, little tidbits.
So much back and general knowledge around music. And I was saying the other day, what's something that we should know what's something that you've, you've identified a Mac of recent recent?
Why do you think about that the Taylor Swift thing that's happening is the drummer at the moment. That's the perfect example. What's going on there?
With with scooter?
Yeah, it was scooter. scooter. Do you know about this? Yeah, I know. Bad. It. Doesn't want to comment.
Yeah, it's my boy.
staying out of it. I
don't want to get back with Halo scooter. But the thing is like with that?
Also, do we have an update on that? Nothing yet. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I think we'd like the whole Taylor scooter thing is like it's so crazy for her to say that. She didn't know about this deal about scooter buying the rights to a music the publicity, because she's so big. And like she definitely knew like deals, deals over like 10 k are important to an artist because at one stage, he never had money. So like, if this deals with like, you know, 50 hundred million dollars, like, you're going to know about it before it's happened.
Sorry. I was just doing
the fact that her dad also knew her dad was a part of the he owned part of the record label. So he would have been making money from that. Yes.
So in terms of the Masters, I mean, it's not uncommon for people not to win the masters. Yeah, yeah. It's, it's actually what was that? Sorry, what is it that Southern so they mastered it like the master tracks, like the original colour recording track, the label usually owns that and they take a piece of everything. And that's how it's always worked up until more recently, like an example. Metallica, it's one of the few sort of big stadium rock acts that actually fan that went and got the Masters back, bought them off and started their own label. So they take 100%
back, what about the Rolling Stones guy? Mick Jagger, and that allowed that guy who wrote that track. Yeah, that was a good song back
because you were going to sweat Symphony from
you and I, we don't know the facts, but we know the prompt for the facts. There was a guy and the other guy. That's why these guys
have been there.
that I bought the riff from I think was the last time the song was the last song from the from the stones. There was just a riff that they used and they used an orchestrated riff in the song bittersweet Symphony. And it went number one that song when it was like non existent. And after it went, number one, Rolling Stones eventually lit again and took them to court and argued that they even though they had allowed them to take the riff that didn't allow them to take the orchestra. So there were very early there was a very, very young band and I effectively legally rolled over and gave them the entire roster that song so they own 100% of all royalty revenue.
So that's who's that's Rolling Stones? Rolling Stones accounts, but yes,
apparently for one understand that even accepted the award for that song and a couple of making Keith got up and then
and then they recently it's like, you know, making Keith have given it back. I've given him back and so he actually charted it went to number one or something. Yeah, because everyone was like, fucking get it up there again, because he's got it back. It's a great day.
licencing is quite apparently quiet. It kind of ruined them. It was quite, it was quite a saga,
the idea of being sued in general. I'm so glad and nothing so
much. Would there be anything? What would what would someone might so you've definitely
following the whole time.
Yeah, I know.
And that's, that's the thing that I'm
nervous. She's, she's gonna get a bunch of followers from the gronk. Squad.
Yes, she will try and follow her if I wasn't already.
But I think I could argue with the Rolling Stones thing. It's like, Oh, we just expanded that. You could put a positive spin on what was
I don't think we know it's gonna be so the thing about suing people is it cost a lot of money. Yeah. And so unless you got someone bankrolling the famous lawsuit against a whole car, Hogan sued the radio station. No, they sued. Gorkha
go on to Peter teal, for allegedly, sue us was different Paper Paper. He's the founder, along with a law matters a billionaire dude.
Anyway, he's the one that took a bell.
yeah. Cuz he exposed that he of his orientation. That's why
because that were Yeah, he that's why they said that he was pissed at him. Yeah. So he wasn't, they weren't getting sued because Gawker called palantir. Guy. No, it was because
Peter was pissed about
it. It was based in his money. And so my point is, if you have money,
please have a billionaire.
If you had a heap of cash,
the interesting thing was he wasn't paying he. It wasn't like Peter teal was suing them. Pelletier was supporting someone who could sit like Hulk Hogan who could
Yes, but it's a date. Like when you think about the legal system might not be that different. I suppose. Realistically, if you've got enough money, you can manipulate it to your will the legal system. So you could
say that someone's done something, build a case against it.
Yeah, I wonder what if podcasting whether that shits can become more common, all of our all of our episodes are transcribed. So you could go on out you could Google something and find some shit that we've said that we don't even believe now but upset someone?
Yeah, I wonder. I don't actually know. I probably should. I don't actually know what the what the law is, in terms of what you can just sort of rattle off on a on a podcast. Yeah.
I mean, you you probably have more of a sensibility around allegedly using that term in when you talk about
Yeah, I've I mean, anytime that anyone's brought something I've tried not to be like, say anything that will come back to me. I mean, we've all got angry about George Pelle use these name.
I haven't used his name once.
We did a whole podcast on
there and he was willing to jail for the for the naming the paedophile it's a real crazy that's a bit of a crazy law but I suppose it's it's in place to protect the innocent based on your innocent until proven, but it's also effective. Like it's also to if they want to build a case and do all that sort of shit. It's good to go through the right processes, otherwise people just based on your media status. You can I can get people in jail. Yeah, yeah. It's interesting. I
if you criminals at a shepherd
when he goes, this was the closest giant Darren Gah,
community, like more easy one. I mean,
like, where people go for, like tax evasion.
It's also where people go at the back end of this sentence, if 15 years
later, my jacket, I went,
I went up and visited a dude in jail there. Yeah. And it's still fact. I mean, but they can run away. Because there's the whole thing is you're trying to rehabilitate back into the system. And that's their thought. Society. Yeah. rehabilitations
I watched your doc Oh, where they in the US they make numberplates is that how I numberplates? You know,
they do they do do shit. They like sewing is like you get jobs in jail. I mean, when I've ever been to jail, but I know my friend was working. You make a bit of cash. In fact, the guild Ward the guy closest to actually go into jail knocks on wood
donating to knock on wood.
Any nights you went to school with going to jail?
It's a bit of a showstopper. Isn't that a question? In some ways? Well, I wanted I'm all
doesn't want to say anymore but that's
that's a no snitch
that's a really big fan of the show. You know,
my favourite number is triple zero I'm very I'm the reason why they're doing that big campaign at the moment 131 triple four you should not need to sign that fucking cool triple zero
they've had a bunch of people just fucking you know social media is down
is that about it? Like like expecting people to just call the police station? Yeah, but yeah, it's basically an emergency like but you wouldn't know if you needed like
I think part of it is like society got broken into
you know, a car and there's a smash window you know any call triple 00 Yeah,
no, I call them urgency
gronk call emergency
Yeah, my my brother's a paramedic people people call the he went out to a call because someone couldn't get his shoes off.
bleeding to death and they've got to go to this fucking first call.
On the way here. I was driving
I was driving down Bridge Road and then like this delivery driver, like stopped in front of this other scooter. And there's two guys on a scooter behind him like together and they just like full skidded in front of my car. It fell on the like road and crash. Oh, no. And I'm like, Oh, shit, like, had my phone down there. And I was like, like, I was like checking directions of how to get it. And like this scooter, like common like crashing from the car. And I'm like, Oh, shit. On the brakes. Yeah, just stopped. I'm like that, like they got up like straight away. It wasn't like a heavy crash. But like, we all kind of stopped and we're like, I had never seen it before. Just really wet road. And it was kind of like on the train track. It look like concrete, as opposed to like
road management, oil rigs, Uber, Uber, scooter riders, some of the dangerous jobs of agile.
Yeah, it was scary. Yeah. Well, you get yourself into trouble could end up in prison is that what might happen? I will say about about prison. Like I had one. The one guy, you know, the that used to be my twins who ended up being in prison a couple of different times. And he was he had a fairly criminal temperament. And cross prison didn't do anything for him good. And it just effectively made him worse. He did eventually go on and turn his life around, became really religious and had a family but he said dude, you bumped into bumped into one shepherd and Melbourne ship ship operation fucking
as he comes on. And he's like, I just sort of fat and guys, I saw I just saw this guy.
He came up to me in the gym. And he was like killing I was like,
Oh, my God. He's always been a weapon. But like he got into a whole bunch of trouble in Melbourne. And was very, very involved with a bunch of same drug dealing all the rest of it, and then eventually did go to prison. And before before eventually, the attorneys wrote the law firm. But before that happened, he ended up just getting worse into a network. They met more criminals that he was going to get involved with after he got out and that is what happened. So I would I would question sometimes the system of locking people.
It's what I said, you know, they because we had Nicole who spend time in Pinterest and the hottest prisons up in the Gold Coast. Litecoin Brisbane, high security in jail chopper at the time. And I said, it's like, they're trying to rehabilitate, and he's was a bit like, come on. It's like sending old fat people to McDonalds and locking him in.
All of that. Yeah, it's a Kindle. Just you still got the nuggets
are the podcast. can't fight fight a Barki from the western suburbs. I fucking love it. I can't get enough of it. He talks about gronk he called expect gronk but he doesn't like gronk or the gronk squad. But can
we have a what's the one of gronk I know because I'm following you. I still I still I still follow him. At least up till today. Yeah. What is it? Where did gronk come from?
I started using it as one of my favourite word's my brother and I used it quite a lot when we were younger. And I just fucking loud the word gronk it just is fan but isn't this
what you're what you would like your fans like you have Lady Gaga calls them to come
back and talk about them.
The gronk gronk Saga
I needed to get plenty of looked at what they
got so gronk Yeah, gronk so imperfect. Yeah, there might be I can put something in the beam when there isn't a fucking bin liner in it.
Yeah, we've all done it. We've done it we're just about you basically. Just a gronk is selfish at times. Yes. gronk is your best man who's funny. It has your back so it's quite versatile as I like to say
anyway probably qualify to be
the gronk squad
because the Netherlands in the apartment putting the trash and there is the the note on the on the you know hey, hit the drop the shoot the shoot. Yeah, it's like God put God set the glass bottles down. Yeah, not
putting the bees in there fishing of a gronk you are a gronk so you gotta go to the daily talk. show.com and sign up as a gronk god yeah, remember? Yeah.
What do what is one of the benefits? Today, actually,
we get updates, get updates, exclusive content. And might you've been on the show. You're part of the gronk part of the family. You're beautiful. You're an absolute gronk Yeah, that's the podcast, cat fight fight. Its faculty. He talks about just being in jail. Okay. He's such a good storyteller. This dude. He's he I mean, he's Johnny Abraham's. And so he grew up in Sydney nightclub owner that promoted while he's the creative director. Like they made about him is a weapon. Anyway, that's the storey and he's just grown up amongst that fucking bar. He said he's a bar he since he was 14. And it's just fascinating hearing the storeys of being in jail over in Adelaide and she's like it's not yet I've just found myself like an hour later on what the fuck would have been doing Yeah, sorry. I
scared you guys. Next time we need to actually do some form of road trip. have a reason to go back to
broadcast. I haven't been back. You mean Tommy? You've been back and obviously Bernie's from there, but I haven't been back there once not even once.
I've got a great idea we should all road trip. Everyone in this room.
Ready to land?
festival happening to me to a festival before now. free tickets. This will be awesome.
Yeah, let's do it. Ami
What is it called? land of plenty.
Plenty. headlining right? Yeah. Plan.
We're not in shape. I was like there was we never ever died. It was never Music Festival.
Track weekend November 2.
That will be a good memory new
I would never know that.
Right. Am I right now you ride your
horse racing. What do you won't have a great time? Yeah. In a place you've never been before? With some
Episode 500 and
can you get
500 can you get Ellie's headlining can you get up on our show it easy, man? Can you get me into the back at the moment so let's get
Sounds like a promise.
From from Atlanta plenty.
That'd be cool. Yes. Let's do that backstage. Yeah.
So it's all being paid.
Channel they like will be the new channel is channel v today. Still
not? This is the thing. Is that a music? Is it? I mean, you wouldn't Yeah, well,
it's more like MTV, like doing really great things for sharing music right now. I'd say MTV in Australia. I would know.
Right now via
the American debate on the Australian MTV I wonder who owns the MTV licence?
I'm just a broadcaster. Yeah, I'm just curious this would be
well they're supporting I'm just curious as Who the fuck is
not support this morning music in general.
Yeah, but they're someone's putting up the cash to be able to do this. I want to know Are they fucking a good company that's got a lot of life in them or is it just going to be a spark and
is not gonna have anything so same company Josh Viacom. Viacom three big no father. No. That's okay. So head over Stacy June teller gronk teli you're part of the gronk squad and you heard about her from the day
from Oh positive she's actually a lovely lovely had Stacey on the show before yeah
massive supporters of us we had a lot to do with each other when we don't when I was in shipping she's as genuine person as you can imagine. So hope she doesn't misinterpret this but the main thought to follow either those states if you listen to
anyone else or you want to follow from
Matt de Villa follows me follows you. Yeah. Follow up and follow for the next five minutes I want to
follow from your production team
1234 we've got bombed
podcast honestly drop reference to the band I've just started so don't follow them the
TV man we don't support
the show. Anybody?
So what style of music what
it would it would be indie rock. We should have some stuff on Spotify in the next couple of weeks to offspring that sort of style now that would be that would be pop punk. Realistically, I think. Thanks. Drugs think Arctic Monkeys
just last last thing. Machine gang Kelly. What do you think of his new song?
Yeah, he's good, man. The new song they want this.
We've got Travis Barker. Yep. You think isn't it?
Yeah. What do you think? town the Lord? All town?
Oh yeah. Moshe. Moshe. Would
you like Panini
Panini? The name is cool. Yeah, he's gone places. I don't think he's just gonna have that one. He
was about to blow back. Let's get
there's a there's a kid and he's names the kid Leroy. He's 15. He's like, from Sydney's from Mike Redfern is on Tick Tock. She probably is. But um, but yeah, he's adding like, la now. And he blew up over here on a radio station, which one day on Triple J. And then he Yeah, he went overseas and then connected with artists here. And now he's got the same manager as this guy called juice world. He's like the one the biggest hip hop artist in the world right now. And they're just taking their time, but he's like this kid. And he's got the world at his feet. So there's him. And there's another kid called Craig the kid from Brisbane. And he's only like 15 or 16 too. So watch out for that kids.
Let's put some links in the show notes on YouTube and the podcast
let's make him pop.
Let's move the needle guys come on.
Let's let's get
a kid the kid and the kid little boy
so it was a big thing on kids at the moment and I Oh that's a good question. I bought
like old school like even with any tonnes of music like never used to believe in like the and I think now
Kid Rock was big kid.
me like 30 when he got EG
video of him dancing to MGMT not a look it up was crazy. He
did you say logic and MMOs with crystal a
funny, Kid Rock doesn't do many radio interviews, doesn't it? No. He actually. He had an incident once where he wasn't a fan of one of the programme directors that I think it was kissing ally and said on air that he had sexual intercourse with the paydays partner. So he doesn't do radio stuff
to me run for president or something recently.
Yeah, I'm serious. Like he was like, he was like, let's go. I can Kid Rock 2020
Yeah. And Pamela Anderson's kid.
Who was she married Tommy from Motley
Crue Yeah, he's the kid is on MTV the hills
good looking little fella.
Yeah, he would be a good looking rusty
to act and things like that by watch woman.
Any Bye bye. Watch woman.
I think MTV is on the way up.
Three day deal. Looks like he wants to say so.
I just want to say fuck Kid Rock. What's wrong with Kid Rock? I'm not a fan. Really? Like he's like, Oh, I'm a country guy. And then he's a rock star and then he's a thinks he's a rapper. So you don't like the fact that he's changed genres? No, I just don't like the way that he presents himself when he didn't want but
I don't mind that he changed
representing himself Yeah, better yet
pick one kid on
Yeah, I mean old town road the ultimate fucking genre
is it hip hop? Yeah. Did you see like that whole song about that with a bang not a country song and not accepted in the country charts is it was kind of trippy
sorry taking off the you
got to take it off the country charts and then put back I think it's an outright Yeah.
On that note, let's wrap it up. Yeah,
maybe this was Townsville would have put this is great band and towns where you can
say this is why I couldn't be on radio. The town to Roger
Well, geez, that was abrupt.
I think we're running out of battery. Okay.
Bye everyone. Say was