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Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 382.

Tommy: What's going on, guys? What's happening?

Josh: I was feeling a little bit, um, low energy yesterday.

Tommy: Well, I mean, you came to work looking like you had just gone to take a piss during the middle of the night.

Josh: Well, I'd forgotten my, um, I'd forgotten jeans and you look like a mess. Track suit, track suit pants, and I was wearing my hoodie that I've kept for emergencies when I'm feeling fat. And so is that what you really—

Tommy: yeah, is that your legit thinking?

Josh: It's about 4XL. Like, I can just like really— but I realised that the thing about wearing those clothes is you look homeless. Yeah, it didn't have that sort of vibe. It wasn't, it wasn't ideal. But I'm feeling better today.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: But I thought we could start with a little bit of gratitude. Oh yeah, from everyone. I know normally we do it on a Friday, but to be honest, we're already on a high because, yeah, Fat Fridays and things like that.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Uh, what are you grateful for?

Tommy: I'm grateful for, um, sort of, um, my family. That's right. Well, if I want to go— I was— this is the thing, how much judgement do people have around their own gratitude? Because I was almost going to say, like, I was going to say something that's like personal. I had a moment this morning where I kind of was like in a frump, or like, you know, what's a frump? I don't know, just like a in a funk, in a— just in a moment where I could see I was going in a negative spiral.

Josh: Can we look up the word frump just to see?

Tommy: Frumpy is like fat.

George: Front loading trunk in an electric car.

Tommy: You know, I was front loading electric car. I was in a frump, I was in a funk, but I was— I could feel myself going in a negative spiral, and then I was like, hang on, for some reason I was like, I can switch this up. I was like, what if I just choose to look at this as the best possible situation? And then I just started to reframe things. So I'm grateful for, for one, my brain stopping itself in that moment and, and doing that for me.

Josh: I think the same thing happened to me this morning.

Tommy: Did it?

Josh: Yeah, I was like feeling like I got up and I realised that the new cameras that we've got— I haven't told you this yet, but we need one extra little connector to be able to run power.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: So when the cameras arrive, we can't use it. Well, we don't have power, so I need to sort that out.

Tommy: No, it's that dangle. It's a dongle that hangs out the side of them.

Josh: I saw it on a YouTube vid. But from a gratitude point of view, I didn't order that, so I've got to do that. But I was just like, oh no. And then I realised that I hadn't sent a calendar invite for tomorrow and all that sort of thing. And then I was like, it was all good. It was all fine. I got through it. And so what am I grateful for? That we can come to work and we've got like a great place to work. Like, it's like warm, I can put my headphones on, I can get stuff done. And also that we've got a great team. What about you, Mr. 97? What are you grateful for?

George: Well, I was doing some editing from some of the shoots that we did last week, um, and they were, they were about a technology, uh, platform that, that's like a government, government initiative to teach older people how to use technology. But yeah, I think I'm probably grateful for the fact that we have like IMAX and a mixer and a camera. Like it's full on.

Josh: Yeah.

George: Like to think about what it does.

Josh: Yeah, it's crazy.

George: Ridiculous.

Josh: Well, it was awesome hearing like a 90-year-old talk about the fact that she's got like a group chat with her friends.

George: Oh, Facebook Messenger.

Tommy: It's amazing.

Josh: It's so cool. Yeah. That's a great one. What about you, 3D Dyl? What are you grateful for?

Mason: I'm grateful for a lot of things, but this morning in particular, I went to a different cafe than what I normally go to for morning coffee.

Tommy: And did you regret it?

Mason: No, actually, the good— the barista there saw my thumb and she said, what do you do to your thumb? So I told her the storey and then she told me about her. Her grandmother has some ancient ointment that she uses, like, to put on cuts and stuff.

Josh: Really?

Mason: And she's like, if you're ever back in and I'm here, it's like, just remind me and I'll see if I can get some for you. I'm like, that's, that's amazing. Like, that's just the pure generosity.

Tommy: I wonder what it is.

Josh: I, I bet it's sting.

Tommy: Yeah. It would be like, look, a little bit of lemon juice perhaps, yeah?

Josh: That's exactly what I thought. I reckon lemon juice is definitely involved.

Tommy: Grandmothers tend to— I don't have— I've never had a grandmother that I have like been of an age where, you know, my grandma—

Josh: I didn't appreciate them.

Tommy: My grandmother died when I was very young and then my other grandmother got dementia. And so my memories of her are in a hospital and I used to go in and I feed her and shit, steal her food. Well, she just didn't want it. And so I'd eat all of her food.

Jess: What sort of food was it?

Tommy: Oh, they were like these little puddings and Oh, it was awesome. I mean, and it was lovely. It was a lovely time.

Josh: She used to— Puddings sound better than what they are.

George: Nah, it's ridiculous.

Josh: I went to Tesco, never had pudding before, and I bought, like, you can't buy a small amount of pudding. So, the first time I bought pudding, I bought like racks of pudding. Yeah. And that was in our fridge.

Tommy: You stuffed up.

Josh: It's custard. It's yoghurt.

Tommy: Well, the ones I know you're getting are like, yeah, yoghurt. A yoghurt would be better. But I think so. I couldn't. So, there was nothing passed down from my grandmothers to me because I didn't have that relationship with them. But my, one of my best mate's grandmothers, she would, and she's such a character, and she would always keep soda water in the cupboard.

Josh: In the cupboard, not in the fridge?

Tommy: No, in the cupboard. And my mate started doing this. I lived with him and he would have soda water at hand because his grandmother taught him. 'If you ever get red wine on the carpet, soda water.' Oh, that's good. And so it was like a thing passed on. Have you got anything from your granny?

Josh: Mm, you know, are your granny still with us? Nah, they're all dead. Nana though, because remember I filmed at Nana's funeral. Oh yeah, I live streamed it. It cost me an absolute bomb. No, it cost me a bomb in, uh, because my brother's in the US.

Jess: Yeah.

Josh: And so I live streamed and every 5— I had set the resolution too high, like, so I was recording the whole thing, like, yeah, live streaming 1080p, which is overkill for, for a funeral potentially. And so every 5 minutes I was getting a notification, you've used a gig of data. Anyway, what, uh, other than being handed over a big data bill, uh, uh, sponge cakes and stuff were very big. But it was never like, the recipes never got to me. She would, she held them close. I should have probably And so, I was always eating them. Yeah. Jams. She was very big into jams. And the great thing is because of the sugar stuff, she, I don't know, may have died 4 years, 3 or 4 years ago. It was only a year ago that Mum was like, oh, we've got the last bit of Nana's jam that we're having on scones.

Tommy: Oh, really?

Josh: Because like, I guess because it's so loved.

Tommy: It's the one she made. Yeah. That's so cool.

Josh: Isn't it crazy?

Tommy: I love that. I think it's a real, choice to, like, you're deciding to do something that you'll be able to pass down.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Like, for instance, my father, my dad, we used to play games when we were kids. So I admire my dad so much because he's a really hard worker. He classic kind of, you know, out on the tools. He was a landscaper, had a business. And so I got to see great work ethic in him. And as soon as he got home, it was straight to ball in the hall, which was ball in the hall, which was get your legs separated like that. So you're sitting down and you roll the ball to each other.

Josh: Oh, that's great.

Tommy: And there was also like, it was like lawn bowls but inside. Oh, that's fun.

Josh: Lawn balls.

Tommy: Balls. Balls. Yeah. So it was indoor, it was carpet bowls.

Josh: Oh, that's great.

Tommy: And the other one was here and there. What's that?

Josh: Which, is that a saying or is that actually?

Tommy: I could demonstrate here and there, but you're probably 70 kilos, 80 kilos too heavy. It involves holding your baby. And so I've started doing this with Bodhi and it's amazing. Like I see this as the thing I'm going to carry on and I want Bodhi to do it for his kids if he chooses to have kids.

Josh: Yeah, sure.

Tommy: Here and there. He says, Daddy, more here and there, more here and there. And so I hold him. I say, close your eyes. And he closes his eyes. And I remember this so vividly as a kid. Dad would walk around the house saying, here and there. And I closed my eyes and he would be spinning. So I'd lose my orientation.

Josh: Sure.

Tommy: I wouldn't know where I am. And then he would take me somewhere and he'd put my head right down into a weird position. So I'd be like toilet bowl, or like in the bathroom, or like in the shower. And then you'd open your eyes and you'd be like, I'm in the shower.

Josh: That's—

Tommy: but it was just such a great game as a kid because it was— you were like, where am I going to end up? Where am I going to end up?

Josh: What's your favourite place to, to take Bodhi. Oh, that's like—

Tommy: what's the little prick? Opens his eyes. I said, oh, you said close your eyes. He goes like this, squeezes them, then he starts to slowly open them.

Josh: Just like, you know, you can't— no, no, you're done, you're done.

Tommy: I hold him in tight. And so, but yeah, I like to take him down like next to the couch in random positions.

Josh: Maybe get him one of those like eye masks.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Why is that funny?

Tommy: No, it's funny, but it's— I just want to teach him that the fucker's not keeping his eyes closed. No, I started to pull him into my chest. Okay. I mean, yeah, I've started to sort of make him do it, but he loves it. It's part of the fun. But I hope— that's one thing I'm gonna— I was always thinking about it. I'm thinking about making a video. I should just do it. My— where I, where I speak to my dad and I get the lowdown on— it's an instruction manual.

Josh: Great idea.

Tommy: And but what we do is we recreate it where he has to lift you up. No, I don't think he could lift me. He's had a hip replacement. He's a strong— he's a strong old man. But I think I would have to lift him. So, it's like the kid who—

Josh: What do you think your dad's— I don't know if your dad will— Will he do that?

Tommy: Yeah, maybe. But he's a funny guy. He'd think it's funny. So, I could imagine him doing it.

Josh: Awesome content. Can you please do that?

Tommy: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I will.

Josh: The other thing I'm grateful for.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Oh, yes. So, Leah, who is currently here, I'll just turn on this mic.

Tommy: Oh, we've got a mic for Leah.

Jess: Let's—

Josh: This is the first time. We're ever bringing in the couch mic. Leah, how are you?

Jess: Hi.

Josh: Oh, there we go.

Tommy: It's actually working.

Josh: It's on.

Mason: It's on.

Josh: Yeah, it's on. You don't have headphones.

Jess: I feel so special to be the first couch mic person.

Josh: Yeah, I know. This is amazing.

Tommy: Okay, Leah, where have you come from?

Jess: Altona. So not too far away. Thanks for having me.

Tommy: No worries. So Leah reached out to us online and—

Josh: Internet friends.

Tommy: And now she's on our couch.

Josh: Yeah. As you do.

Tommy: It's how it always happens. Mr. 97 reached out online. 3D Dill reached out online.

Josh: Yeah.

Jess: The magic of the internet, hey?

Josh: I know, it's amazing.

Tommy: That's how all of us are here, actually.

Josh: Yeah, that's very true.

Tommy: Except you and I, we met in person first, so that's weird.

Josh: But we didn't actually really connect until that time.

Tommy: Until we had a Facebook interaction.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: You used to ask a lot of questions.

Tommy: Yeah. I don't know why. I don't know why I asked them.

Josh: No, it was great. I enjoyed it. And so, so Leah, did you find us through Game Changers? Was that right?

George: Or where?

Jess: Well, I actually first found you through Shameless. I am an OG fan of Shameless. I bloody love them. Yeah. Can I say that?

Josh: Yeah, you can.

Jess: Fuck 'em up. Too late. And then, and then, so I got onto you then, but then I sort of rekindled when I listened to your Game Changers.

Josh: Oh, great.

Jess: I was like, oh, I need to get back onto them.

Josh: Yeah. Isn't it amazing? Like Shameless, it's one of those things where, yeah, like you've got situations in your life where you see things early or whatever, and then you sort of take pride in being like, I was there in the early days. Very much so.

Tommy: That's me, the shameless. Yeah, I mean, I've always had it with Casey Neistat because I used to watch him before he started vlogging many, many years ago. But it's not as cool because we don't know Casey Neistat. Yeah. Um, Lee, you've got kids?

Jess: I do.

Tommy: How many?

Jess: I've got 3.

Tommy: Wow.

Jess: I know, it's crazy. I actually have to, you know, pinch myself sometimes. What's going on?

Tommy: Mate, Bodie, tell me if this is what has happened with your partner.

Jess: Okay.

Tommy: Have you got a boy?

Jess: I've got two boys. I've got oldest boy, youngest boy, and a girl in the middle.

Tommy: I just need one of them to at least have a penis to make this.

Jess: There's three in the house.

Tommy: Three peens in the house. There's only two peens in my house, although Bodhi calls Amy's vagina a penis. Look at dickie, dickie. It's a small dickie, but in the bath— so Bodhi and I have a bath completely normal. You gronks don't know, you're too new to humans.

Josh: Do you shit in the bath?

Tommy: He's done that plenty of times, but he's actually stopped that. I think he realises he once did it and it scared him.

Josh: He's like, what the fuck is that? Yeah, well, it's like when you go to America and they've got the bowls full of water and you're like, yeah, yeah, because you can see it's almost like, um, it's, it's, you see the whole thing.

Tommy: It's like they've 3D rendered your shit and you sort of see the brown submarine. Anyway, um, I'm in the bath and Bodie's sitting there and he's got a fascination with penises. We know this. I've talked about this. Dickies, they just, they think it's the funniest thing. They've got their own. He looks over at me, I'm nude in the bath with him, and he just goes, Daddy's got a small dickie.

Jess: Brutal, aren't they?

Tommy: Brutal. I mean, are you saying that he was saying that? It's not, it's not true.

Josh: He was trolling you. He knows where it hurts.

Tommy: I said, mate, my fucking dick's the size of your forearm. Which isn't that much of a feat.

Josh: It's a little for her. I do wonder though, is this a Jacket trait or do all little boys, are they all obsessed with their dicks?

Jess: Yeah, I think all of them are. And you know what? And this is really slanderous for everyone involved. But there comes a point, you know, I really wanted to be one of those like new age parents who like says exactly what the parts are straight away. No problems. Why are you ashamed of it? Doesn't matter. So, you know, vagina and penis straight out. But it means that, you know, a 2-year-old goes around to people and is like, trying to pull their pants down and show me your vagina. You know, like if we're at the supermarket, he'll be like, you got two breasts, you over there? That kind of stuff. So I have some regrets.

Tommy: Yeah. Well, he also did say, while changing his nappy, he said, kiss sticky. He doesn't know.

Jess: Yeah. It's so cute.

Tommy: Yeah.

Jess: Innocent.

Tommy: It's just not, it's if you act on it, it's not cute. Otherwise they're very cute. Yeah.

Josh: I mean, I used to call it a doodle.

Tommy: Do, yeah, that's it.

Josh: And a fanny as well. But then the thing was, the fanny then became vagina, which I've mentioned before. I thought it was vagina because why just use the real names, guys?

Tommy: Well, today it's, I mean, I'm having, this feels like Fat Friday.

Josh: It does have that vibe.

Tommy: But this is a menu. Did this bag, so these, this bag that I'm holding right here, if you're watching on YouTube.

Josh: Leah did bring this in.

Tommy: You did bring this. Did you, is this your bag or did you?

Jess: No, they gave it to me at the cafe.

Tommy: Yep, no problem.

Josh: That's great. Okay, so tell us where you got So, we pull something out and then you tell us what it is. Yeah, let's do that. Okay, great.

Tommy: This one.

Josh: Okay. So, what— Can I just describe what it looks like first?

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: So, it is a layered cake and it's some sort of green sauce, which I'm going to guess it's some form of pistachio. Or pistachio. What do you say?

Tommy: Pistachio. Pistachio.

Josh: Pistachio cake. Is that what that is?

Jess: It's a— Well, kind of. It's a green tea crepe cake.

Josh: Oh, great.

Tommy: Yeah, that's amazing.

Jess: This is all Thai themed. I'll say it's all Thai themed.

Tommy: Okay, this is from across the road.

Jess: Yeah, yeah, just around the corner.

Tommy: Yeah. Hello, welcome. Did you get that? Is that the place where you went or you went to another place?

Josh: Yeah, no, it was literally across the road.

Jess: I don't think they're as friendly as that.

Tommy: No, that's the actual, no, that's the, uh, is it the one right next to our, across the road from our studio?

Jess: No, not across the road, around the corner.

Tommy: No, there's another one where they've automated their hello and welcome.

Josh: Yeah. Okay, amazing.

Jess: So, these guys didn't care if I bought anything or not.

Josh: That sounds— that's a true authentic experience.

Tommy: Yeah, that's it.

George: Here we go.

Tommy: This is a box.

Josh: Okay, great.

Tommy: Let's open that up. Oh, wow.

Josh: Oh, I— Okay, so there's something very chocolatey and then there's two— Bosoms. Yeah, they look like bosoms.

Jess: Yeah, they do, actually.

Josh: I haven't heard bosom since 1994.

Tommy: I didn't have doodle since I was two.

Josh: I'm just having a sniff. It does smell like, it does smell like Thailand, like the bakeries and stuff.

Tommy: It's definitely, it's a doughnut or it looks like a little bun.

Josh: What is it, Leah?

Jess: Okay. So yes, they're two little like Thai style donuts. One of them, or do you want to guess the flavours or am I telling you?

Josh: Okay. No, we can guess the flavors.

Tommy: No, I already have been told.

Josh: Okay. Well, I haven't. You haven't. So should I just—

Jess: Can I give you a hint that one's savoury and one's sweet?

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Out of the two bosoms?

Jess: Out of the two bosoms.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: That's sort of a fucked up thing to do. Put savoury and sweet and me not know which one.

Tommy: That is, psychopathic territory.

Josh: I'm going to guess. Okay, I'm just going to just have a bite of one just out of curiosity.

Tommy: I didn't tell you to know.

Josh: No, no, but the thing is that I'm going—

Tommy: No, how about you guess and then whatever you get, whatever, whatever you guess.

Josh: Wait, I need to guess which one is sweet and which one's savoury?

Tommy: Yeah, because I, I'll have the sweet one.

Josh: No, okay, because he wants the sweet one.

Tommy: That's why I want to do that. No, but just—

Josh: Okay, I think that the, um, the orange nipple.

Tommy: What is that?

Josh: No, they're both orange.

Tommy: One's like a—

Josh: Okay, so my theory is that the one on the left is sweet because I feel like there's a more sort of a sugary dense sort of thing. And the one on the right looks like, which it's not because I don't think they use chipotle mayo in Thai food.

Tommy: Definitely not.

Josh: It's got like a curry sort of look to it.

Tommy: I reckon I'm going to go the other way. I reckon this is the other. Yeah.

Josh: Okay. So you think that that's sweet?

Jess: Savoury is the buffalo.

Tommy: Well, you've already said that you do know.

Jess: Yeah, but I don't know the flavours.

Josh: Okay, so perfect. In that case, if you think that's sweet and I think that's sweet and we both want sweet.

Jess: Yeah.

Josh: Let's just do that. Yes.

George: Okay. All right.

Josh: So, you take— No. Fuck off.

George: Yeah.

Josh: Thank you. All right. Here we go. So, I'm going to bite. And then if it's not sweet, I'll then tell you what the flavour is.

Jess: Okay.

Tommy: Mm. I can't tell. It's pretty sweet to me. Now I don't know.

Josh: This tastes coconutty.

Tommy: What have we got?

Jess: Okay, so Josh, you're eating curried egg.

Tommy: I feel so bad about that.

Jess: No, no, it's awesome. It sounds like it tastes good.

Tommy: Like, yeah, it actually tastes good.

Jess: And Tommy, yours is sweet tea.

Tommy: Sweet tea. Well, sweet tea is quite sweet, or no? Yeah, it was, but I was like, it's, it's, it's not I mean, it tastes like sweet bread.

Jess: Is that better, Josh?

Tommy: Oh, mine was much better. Yeah, so much better, dude.

Jess: I really wasn't going to get the egg, but they really convinced me that it's an authentic experience.

Josh: Really? You can taste the egg?

Tommy: I can taste the egg. I don't know where you got coconut from, dude.

Josh: I'm so dumb.

Tommy: There's not a hint of coconut in that thing.

Josh: I reckon there is. No, dude.

Tommy: Anyway, it's not. Thank you so much for bringing this. And the other one's obviously just a chocolate.

Josh: I'm actually going to demolish that off, off air because that's of interest. Uh, the— just, just quickly, the, um, the mugs that we've been using at the office.

Tommy: Oh yeah, what have we been using?

Josh: Well, you've— I've, I gave you the, um, I blog therefore I— I blog therefore I am, which I think is sort of funny because you're not really a blogging type.

Tommy: No, I mean, nor are you.

Jess: You've got one but you don't blog.

Josh: But I've I've actually decided to stop making that joke. Which joke? Well, every single time you get it, I'm like, I'm calling it your cup. Oh, no, it's my mug.

Tommy: I mean, you've harassed me, you've insulted me, you've even sent text messages, hey, bring your stupid mug.

Josh: Yeah, I mean, I didn't buy it because I don't really take—

Tommy: I've wrapped my identity in that thing.

Josh: Well, I gave it to you.

Tommy: Thanks, appreciate it.

Josh: As a— like, I lent it to you is what I meant. But it was my mug. Anyway, the joke's on me because I realised it's taken me a couple of months. But the reason you're not giving any pushback on that mug is that mug holds significantly more than any other mug.

George: Yeah.

Tommy: I haven't worked that out.

Josh: And so anyway, that was—

Tommy: Are you being an Indian giver?

Josh: You don't know if you can say that anymore.

Tommy: So, okay. Just quickly. Amy called me before and she's, she was driving down to Portsea. And she's listening.

Josh: Why is she going to Portsea?

Tommy: Oh, she's going to put— she's, um, she's basically a video production company now. She's installing some time-lapse cameras.

Josh: I hope she's doing it.

Tommy: She's doing it. I mean, it's great, but I was in a panic last night. I was like, this is hard for me and I have a video production company. I'm worried for you. Yeah, but anyway, I got them. I set up all the functions and very impressive what she's done and bought like extra battery packs for these things.

Josh: And how long is it going to last for?

Tommy: Oh dude, So it's taking a photo every 15 minutes and we've set it from 5:30 AM and it turns off at 5:00 PM tonight. And it takes, yeah, so 4 photos an hour and it should last about 4 months. It's pretty amazing.

Josh: Wait, it's going to do that every day for 4 months?

George: Yeah.

Tommy: Well, it just takes a photo. And then she had this battery pack. She's like, I spent $300 on batteries. And she's got— I was like, how'd you spend $300 on batteries? And then I saw it's in this encased, this plastic casing and then it's got a little thing off into a little battery pack. It's super impressive what she's done. I mean, she just bought this stuff, but it's amazing if it works. Yeah, and this is, that's what I said. I said we would never promise to a client, we couldn't charge somebody because I don't know if it's going to work or not. Yeah, I mean, I've done it cowboy style for a lot of people.

Josh: Is she going to, is she going to, um, is she going to Portsea like every week to change the batteries or something?

Tommy: No, you don't need to change them. I said just go go in at 2 months and change them all up and just start.

Josh: You're gonna wait 2 months before you see if the thing fucking is working.

Tommy: Yeah, whatever.

Josh: I forgot to turn it on.

Tommy: This is why we didn't. This is why we're not doing the job anyway. She said, I'm listening to some back catalogue stuff around the promises.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And she heard yesterday's about promises and sort of segments and what we want to do. There is one that I was pushing back on, word of the day, and I think we just, it becomes a thing where we just learn. We ask Mason, what does this mean? What does this mean? So it's like It's almost a part of our show where we do work out what a word means if we don't have an idea, any idea. And she said, I— there were— you were pushing back hard on that, Tommy. And then you said, how about origin of the day? Or what does that even mean? I don't know if it was another day. It was like the meaning behind a phrase. So this is a great moment because Indian giver. Whether we can say that or not nowadays, where's it come from though?

Josh: Yeah, I have no idea.

Tommy: Mr. 97, Indian giver. Leah, have you got any idea?

Jess: I don't know, but I do feel like it's a bit of an eek. It's a bit of an orcs one in our day and age.

Josh: You can't say it.

Tommy: But we think that, right? And I'm okay to never say it again if it is severely sort of culturally inappropriate.

Josh: Yes.

Jess: I definitely have said it to my kids and then thought, oh, should I say that? It just, you know, rolls off the tongue.

Tommy: It was one of those things.

Josh: Because you don't even like apply it to anything. Like, I don't even apply it to like, and I think that we've even, if you were to look at the transcripts, 97, I'm sure that in a previous episode we've talked about Indian givers and probably even had an answer.

Tommy: No, I don't think so.

Mason: No, no, no.

Tommy: I mentioned it to you recently.

Josh: What about if I was to, if we were, I mentioned to you recently. I'm about 90% that we've.

Tommy: No, we had an interaction where I wrote on a comment, I think.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: And then I asked you, I said, what are you finding, Mr.

Josh: 07?

George: Well, so Louis CK calls it one of the most offensive things you can call someone, but I don't know.

Tommy: But he's a guy, I don't know how he's got his own moral compasses.

Josh: Yeah. So what does Harvey Weinstein say on it? Come on, let's just get them all out.

Tommy: Harvey's got standards. He won't say Indian giver.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: I mean, uh, anything else? Like, what does it— just write origin.

George: Uh, so Um, I mean, this whole thing's quoting him, so I don't know if that's—

Josh: Yeah, just let's move away from the—

Tommy: Yeah, how about go—

George: It is on npr.org.

Tommy: How about go definition of Indian giver? So maybe then it's like, it starts—

Josh: We don't need the editorial bit, we can apply based on—

George: Yeah, used to describe a person who gives a gift, gives a gift and later wants it back.

Tommy: Yeah, so we know that.

Josh: We've fallen into word of the day.

Tommy: Okay, yeah, okay, but then Do I— am I gonna have to go over there?

Josh: No, he's got this. It is, it's a complicated one.

Tommy: I mean, he's grateful for the technology, but no, so am I. But if you can't use it, it's actually useless.

Josh: Talking about technology, I've asked the 3D DILF for a project to reinstate or re-energize our music playlist on Spotify.

Tommy: I overheard that, and then I overheard that he doesn't have Spotify. Which I was very surprised at.

Mason: I've got Apple Music.

Josh: Why have you got Apple Music? Because it's cheaper. Really?

Tommy: How much is it?

Mason: I pay $3.99 or $4.99 a month.

Josh: That is really an expensive—

George: Student discount though, yeah.

Mason: Student discount.

George: Um, anyway, so here we go. Um, it's derived from the alleged practises of American Indians taking back gifts from white settlers, so I probably wouldn't use that.

Josh: Yeah, it doesn't sound good.

Tommy: I mean, they were probably rightfully so that they took them back.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So it's like, yeah, that's the funny one. It's, it's not still not clear to me. It's probably, it's murky. It's not, it's not flat out. Uh, it's not, doesn't seem completely inappropriate.

Josh: But the thing is, you don't want to be, I guess the idea is you don't want to be an Indian giver.

Tommy: It was a negative thing to be the Indian. Yes, whose land it was, and the white fellas came on and then they fucked shit up, and then it's like, bro, give me back. Yeah, everything.

Josh: Yeah, it's, I don't want to be an Indian. What did they call the Indians that were asking it back? There was before Indian giving.

Tommy: It's a classic. When I was in France, I asked the waiter for French onion soup. She was very confused.

Josh: We talk about this on the show.

Tommy: No, no, just the other day.

Josh: That was some of your best content that we didn't even—

Tommy: I'm pretty sure I've said this, but I asked for French onion soup. They're just like, you mean onion soup? Onion soup. It's onion soup. When you're in France, it's onion soup. It's not French onion soup.

Josh: Yeah. I wonder if we— have we got anything 3D deal that is—

Tommy: Belgian waffles? Mentioned asking for Belgian waffles in Belgium.

Josh: I would probably do that. You know, one thing about Belgium, the thing I find— one thing about Belgium in particular is Belgium versus people who are Belgian.

Tommy: Belgian? What's a Belgian person? Is that a person from Belgium?

Josh: Yes. Is that right, Leah?

Jess: Yeah, I think so.

Josh: Yeah. Or you could have— I think it'd be Belgian waffles, not Belgian waffles.

Tommy: Interesting.

Josh: Anyway, so that fucks with me a little bit. But the other thing, when you think of Belgium, what do you think?

Tommy: Chocolate.

Josh: Yeah. I had a hot chocolate there. It was shit.

Tommy: Really? But was the chocolate quality? Because if, for instance, Pad Thai in Australia, ain't your pad thai in Thailand. Yeah, they're all a bit different. Like butter chicken, how much, how much—

Josh: I feel like what I was basing it on was in Europe there's certain brands of hot chocolate that's almost like a custard. It's like very, very thick, and I would have one a day when I was traveling.

Tommy: It's, and it's fucking pudding melted down.

Josh: If it's pudding, I'd be all for it. If we're— but it's, um, Oh, sorry. If that's what pudding is, I would be all for having pudding. But no, there's a slight difference. But no, it was just, it was very milky. Anyway.

Tommy: Yeah, that's really disappointing.

Josh: But you derailed me about the Spotify thing. I was trying to remember why I threw to 3D Cat.

Tommy: Oh, because you wanted to create us the Daily Talk Show Spotify playlist.

Josh: Which I already have done. It's been up there. Like I can Can you look up, Mr. 97, what's on our playlist at the moment?

Tommy: Well, I'll be surprised. Do you pay for Spotify, Mr. 97?

George: Nope.

Josh: But you can still access it?

Tommy: Oh, you've got the free version where you have to listen.

George: I just run— no, I run AdBlock, so I don't have to listen to ads.

Josh: He's beating the system.

Tommy: He also reads The Age, gets past the paywall.

Josh: Does The Age have a paywall?

George: Uh, no, I think it's Herald Sun that might have paywall. I don't, I don't read newspaper anyway.

Josh: Where do you get your news?

George: Uh, The Verge.

Josh: Really? That's only tech though. Yep, I don't look at any other news unless it's related to Samsung's iPhones or the latest OS.

Tommy: Well, I think we're in a bit of a bubble. Leah, what do you, what do you consume? Like, what forms of media do you consume?

Jess: That's a good question.

Tommy: Outside of our podcast?

Jess: Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's my number one news source. I think I, I definitely am just fully a pod— a pod— Podcaster, basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Shameless for all my celebrity goss.

Tommy: Yeah.

Jess: Now, now that I'm on the spot, I can't think.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Jess: But radio as well. Listen to radio just in the car if I'm going somewhere.

Josh: But will you read an article?

Jess: Yeah, online I will. But I feel bad because it's like if it's gone viral or if it's, you know, something that's, you know, been talked about on a podcast, I'll read it. But otherwise I'm not searching it out.

Josh: Sure.

Jess: Yeah, it's my stage of life as well.

Tommy: I tell you what. Growing up, our house always had paper. So like newspaper.

George: Yeah.

Tommy: Stack of them. Old ones in the laundry if we ever needed. Sometimes you need it.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: You would have too.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: It's of a— we were of a generation when newspapers were still a thriving industry.

Josh: I wish— I think that they— these things, it feels like they're coming back.

Tommy: No, they're not coming back, mate. I was at my mate's place doing the spit. If you didn't know, I put on a spit over the weekend. It was amazing. 20 kilos of meat.

Josh: There's a lot of touch points.

Tommy: But the— it was hard because to make a fire you need—

Josh: oh, did you make the fire as well?

Tommy: I made the fire.

Josh: I was joking, I fucking heard about it.

Tommy: You need paper, right?

Josh: You did a live—

Tommy: you need paper.

Josh: I did, yeah.

Tommy: Did you miss the live?

Josh: Yeah, you know, what do they say, like, if someone shits in the forest, did the— what's it?

Mason: What's—

Tommy: did anyone— did he really shit? Yeah, what is that?

Josh: The tree fell in there.

Tommy: The tree falls in the forest and no one sees. Does it make a sound? Does the tree— did the tree really fall?

Josh: Yeah, if If Tommy makes a spit but didn't Insta Story, do an Instagram Live, and mention it 4 times on the show, did it really happen?

Tommy: But to build a fire, you need paper to then build up the little, you know, teepee, and then, and so it gets to the, you know, the ignition ignites from the inside and then goes up. We had no fucking paper. I was like, dude, do you have any paper? We're at a house and it was my mate's rental property, and I just, for some reason, if I'm in a house, I feel like there's going to be paper there. But then I was like, do you have a spade? And then I just realised he had none of this shit that I had growing up. Yeah, that I just—

Josh: you don't have— you're in a fucking apartment.

Tommy: Exactly, exactly, exactly. That's okay. Yeah, I've got paper though, just random bits that I could find to use because Amy loves getting those fucking magazines from Woolies. What? Oh, those stupid ones. Oh God, the one that— it's such a thing from her childhood. Her— it's like thing from growing up. She gets it and it's like the recipes, and then she rips out the paper and puts the ones she wants and keeps them. But there's just the free one. Do you do that too, Leah?

Jess: I bloody love it. And also the Coles one. The Coles one is even better.

Josh: Yeah, you guys need to fucking find Pinterest. I know.

Jess: And potentially get a life.

Tommy: It's old school, but there's no paper, so we don't have paper these days.

Josh: Well, it's like the, what is it, the Woman's Day or Woman's Weekly?

Tommy: Oh, is that what you read?

Josh: No, no, but they did. No, they do like the bakery. Like there's the— I feel like I see people doing Insta stories. Yeah. Where there's— But didn't they do like once a year or something? They'll do a big recipe book.

Tommy: Yeah.

Jess: I remember there was like their famous cake book. Like you would have all had a cake. Your mum would have made one of those.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: No, she just made the shitty chocolate cake.

Josh: Oh, that's right. My—

Tommy: It's my grandma's recipe, so.

Josh: Oh, really? RIP. The— My mum was obsessed with face painting, though.

Jess: Really?

Josh: She prided herself on being like, they would take, they would like do tiger, like especially with Lion King in the early '90s, everyone wanted to be a lion. And so that was very much watching.

Tommy: I don't think anything's changed. Kids want to be lions.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Kids love it around.

Josh: But do you have your own face paint set up?

Tommy: Definitely not. I don't want to have to wipe the face paint off. How annoying would that be, Leah?

Jess: No, it's really annoying. You know, time for a personal storey or not really?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, go for it.

Jess: So I used to be a face painting fairy through.

Tommy: Did you? I did.

Jess: I used to work at like a kids' play centre when I was in high school and a little bit of uni. And yeah, I used to do that. But so I've really got like an aversion to it because the kids would be all sweaty. Like I used to run parties and stuff like that. And all of their face paint would just like melt off and I'd have to like paint their sweaty faces. And it was like, it stunk in there. So yeah, I just said to my kids, sorry, it's not a real thing. It's made up.

Tommy: It causes asthma.

Josh: It causes asthma.

Tommy: It's just some brutal lie.

Josh: Like my dad lied about about the fact that, and I was like old enough that he shouldn't have been lying. What did he say?

Tommy: Was he calling the other day and left those messages to say sorry?

Josh: Yeah, it could have been.

Tommy: Joshie, sorry.

Josh: Sorry about that. No, it was about dry ice.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Because I was making a film like I was old enough to. I was at VCA doing a short course and he told me that you need a licence to use dry ice because I wanted to like get a heap of dry ice for this scene.

Tommy: Well, dry ice rather than smoke. Smoke lifts, dry ice stays low to the ground. Yeah, it's awesome.

Josh: And he'd had it for his 40th. Did he? Many years ago. Yeah. They all like, it was like Dracula themed or whatever.

Tommy: I mean, to handle the dry ice, you need to be an adult.

Josh: Yeah, but it was a lot of fun because you could put like hot kettle and like you would like hot water and it would go crazy.

Tommy: Okay.

Josh: But yeah, so I was going around telling people at the film school, I'm like, nah, you can't do dry ice because you need a licence. Complete bullshit. Yeah. So like the lies can—

Tommy: Yeah, I know you tried to do it with the tagged and tested for a rental property and now you're like, mate, you need licence tagged and tested.

Josh: Well, you know, the funny thing was, well, it's not funny, but when 3D Deal was cutting his hand and I thought that something electrical was happening, yeah, the first thing I thought about was the fucking tagged and tested thing.

Tommy: Yeah, he's a bit of a liability. He nearly fell over backwards over this wooden thing over here. Oh yeah, I mean, it's been there forever and he's seen it.

Josh: It's not ideal. Uh, yes, uh, yesterday afternoon you were frantically on lastminute.com, which is funny. Could it be any— could you be any more of a cliché? It's your, uh, it's your anniversary and you're on lastminute.com. You've got the— you got the flower. Well, why don't we start from the start? Just how much of a clusterfuck it is, you on an anniversary.

Tommy: So I mean, does it really matter when it's done? Because the thought's there.

Josh: I mean, I am the last minute. I am classic last minute.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, but you got to the morning, Amy, this was in the car. Bodie, Amy had run Bodie up into the daycare and I'm just in there. I'm like, okay, I've got to find some flowers to send her today. And I found this really great little company that just sends like this little—

Josh: Which one was it called?

Tommy: I can't remember. Nice, some bunch, something bunch. Anyway, it's just a nice little glass thing with some like a fresh pick of the day, really lovely, and you can leave a little note. So I did that, entered in my details, and I entered in her phone number first because it was like, what's the number? I put her phone number and then it went down and I kind of went through it. And then she got in the car, then I drove to work, and then I— she jumped out. I hadn't submitted it yet, so she jumped out. Then I kind of went back over it like, oh look, I can put my number because she can— they can call me.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Lucky I put my number because as soon as I press submit, it sent me a text message.

Josh: Thanks for your $46 purchase of flowers.

Tommy: It was like exactly that. And so anyway, the flowers ended up arriving at 3 PM, but that day around 2 o'clock I was looking, and to be fair, I was only on lastminute.com, whatever it's called, a booking site to compare the prices.

Josh: Sure.

Tommy: So I was finding prices.

Josh: It is very funny, you looking quite anxious trying to sort this stuff out and you're on Last Minute Doctorate.

Tommy: What did you say, Mr. 97? Was it you sent me? And then we had that really good laugh around. It was like, it almost, if we were filming that scenario, it was like an ad for Last Minute.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: It's like, what are you doing, mate? Trying to get something last minute? And it was last minute. But I booked it.

Josh: You know what?

Tommy: I can't remember what I said.

Josh: If anyone says anything funny, funny in the office, we just can't mention it on the show. Like, it's a done moment because I don't think we've ever had a moment that was funny in the office that we've then said on the show that's been funny.

Tommy: Yeah, I don't agree.

Josh: I don't agree.

Tommy: You— 1 out of 10 you'd get. I'm willing for 1 out of 10. When we do 7 shows a week, mate, I'm fucking scraping the barrel.

Josh: That's 1 every 2 weeks.

Tommy: But I, um, uh, what was I saying? Yeah, so no, I ended up calling the place where we wanted to go.

Josh: You did a Dick Smith. So when I was traveling, I remember what it was. Leah, do you remember this, Dick Smith did a big campaign where it was like, call up your hotels and motels, fuck booking.com and all that sort of thing. Did you ever see this?

Jess: I don't remember that. It sounds juicy.

Tommy: Well, they were saying, don't, he was saying, and if you don't know who he is, he's an Aussie entrepreneur, old school dude started like a— Actual treasure. Yeah.

Jess: Yeah.

Tommy: What was his business like? Technology. It was almost like a—

Josh: Well, Dick Smith Electronics, I think he sold off a long time ago.

Tommy: Electronics business. But then he started Dick Cheese.

Josh: Yeah, well, yeah, he did all this food, right? He did all stuff that was related to his name.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And it was about the issues I think he had was some of the most iconic products like Tim Tams owned by Arnotts, which I believe is an international company, I think, or was bought by an international company. Vegemite owned by Kraft, another sort of international thing. And so his whole thing is it's like trying to take the Australian products and say, I'm actually going to give you an Australian version that's made here and all that sort of thing.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And so he did do this big video which people like my parents got right behind.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Around like calling up your hotel rather than using a booking service.

Tommy: Well, I called the hotel where we are staying and I was certain to book this place, but I wanted to see if there was any difference from calling And I'm so glad I didn't book online.

Josh: So who was that? What was the booking service that you were—

Tommy: oh, bookings.com, or there was whatif.com, booking.com, I think. Booking.com. Yeah, anyway, there was—

Josh: everyone fucks it up, it's like news.com, it is quite upsetting.

Tommy: It said there on, on booking.com, it was like, um, uh, no booking fee or something. I was like, okay. Anyway, I called up and I ended up spending more money than I was going to, but we got stay and dine package. Oh, that's good. So So for the room that we got, $330 on booking.com, we paid $360 and we got a $100 credit for the pub downstairs.

Josh: So you can— oh, you're not drinking though, so you can't even—

Tommy: No, it's perfect. That's why we'll be— probably won't even spend it all. Amy might have a glass of wine or something, but $50 ahead, we're gonna—

Josh: it's like a parma, a dessert, and a drink even potentially, and a little pub squash.

Tommy: Pub squash is great at a pub, isn't it?

Josh: That actually reminds me, the restaurant the other day, Bri and I went in, which is very rare.

Tommy: You went to a restaurant?

Josh: Yeah, we went into a restaurant.

Tommy: Went into one?

Josh: Yes. Well, actually, it was still doing takeaway, but it was— we went in to pick it up. We didn't Uber Eats. And so what we said, we said, oh, were you just in the neighborhood?

Tommy: Is that why?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: It was more convenient than Uber Eats, which is crazy.

Josh: Yeah. But the other thing— I know, but this was the crazy bit. We said, can we get, um, this fish pack special? It's a fish and chip shop.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And they said, oh no, sorry, that's an Uber Eats only special.

Tommy: Where was it?

Josh: So, uh, so you just said it because you know from there, look at the menu, that's like the only menu that we have reference to is our fucking Uber Eats one. Like, so where he was— well, as in Bree's in the car, I was like, let's Uber Eats. And Bree's like, okay, it's like literally just there, should we just not go in?

Tommy: I see what you mean.

Josh: So you went in and— but Bree's like, we— because we normally Uber Eats it. Yeah, we know that menu. So it's like, baby wants his fish pack or whatever he normally gets.

Tommy: And why— that seems weird.

Josh: Do you think it's stupid that it's like, guys, Uber Eats is costing you like fucking 30% to play? Yeah, just get like—

Tommy: what, what did you do? Did you push for it?

Josh: No, I think I just got like the schnitzel burger instead. But, uh, you know, so anyway, I think I don't like, to be honest, I was in the car. Bree had to make the executive decision. Well, I was in a no-standing, it was actually in a bus zone. Had my hazards on.

Tommy: Gronk move. Well, you can't stay in bus zones. Bus zones, disabled parking. Yeah. No stopping.

Josh: That's what, was it you and I that were talking the other day? Yeah. When we were parking, like when we were going around Melbourne Roubaix, the big cycling event, better to go into a no-standing area than it is to a disabled parking area.

Tommy: Oh, well, if you're going to pick one of the two. Yeah. Have to, have to. Yeah, I look down upon people who park in the disabled— people do it at the gym, and to be fair, it was once not a disabled space. Okay, and now they've made it disabled. Okay, yeah, anyway, thank you so much, Leah, for these cakes. Yeah, thanks for any questions, seeing as, um, you're the first person on the couch with a microphone. With a microphone.

Jess: Hey, you put me on the spot. Hey, um, what has been your favourite thing that you've actually done together since starting this?

Josh: Do you want to go first or should I?

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, this first thought, Craig— I'm referencing Craig Bruce here. Oh, the first thought versus third thought. So first thought is our America trip where we met Seth Godin. It's a highlight, always will be. Love him.

Josh: And what I was thinking is even that day because it was Seth Godin, and then we bumped into Chase Jarvis, who's a famous photographer in the streets of New York.

Tommy: And then we bumped into Post Malone.

Josh: Oh yeah.

Tommy: And then we had Eddie Buckingham, an Aussie guy killing it in New York City.

Josh: And so that was a big day. And you also, you were sick. You weren't feeling that great.

Tommy: Oh mate, I'd lost my voice. I literally had to stop talking between bits. It was so horrible. Anyway, so that's all part of it, right? It's like if I didn't lose my voice, it would have been a great day. Yeah, probably. Nah, probably the same.

Josh: Yeah, it's like that is part of the whole—

Tommy: it's a part of the journey, it's part of the story. The second thought though is, um, I think just being able to have a shared vision on something that's, you know, the shared vision is it, right? So I have what I want to create, you have what you want to create, you want your life to be a certain way, I want my life to be a certain way, but we've managed to do it together and, and build out this in the team. That's what I love the most because I always obsessed over over wanting to build a team and, and it's all— and I think the thought of it, uh, is premature, but it's how you then plant the seed to make it happen and bring into fruition. So it's like so many things in my life, I've obsessed over something and I just— it has to ruminate. So it's like being patient and having a lot of thought around it brings it to life for me with a bunch of action, but it's the only way if you really think about what you want.

Josh: I think even Sunday night for me when I was like doing the Seth Godin book, but we had 3 Day Deal, Mr. Nice, working on the website, like we're all doing stuff. It's like, isn't it amazing that we can all be doing things individually that's working towards the bigger thing? That was really cool.

George: Yeah.

Jess: You kind of created a family here.

Mason: Yeah.

Jess: It's going to be sad when you lose one of your children.

Josh: I know. Exactly. Well, we'll have him on FaceTime. We'll be able to, we'll chat to baby.

Tommy: Yeah.

Jess: Yeah, that'd be great.

Tommy: Anything else? That's it.

Jess: I was going to ask about your planning process. Do you do like— before I got here today, was there a lot of like planning and chat?

Josh: 4 hours of meeting. No. Well, I mean, I think that that's the area that we're trying to work out. So we don't do— we do very little. We have. And so yesterday's show, this is how I feel anyway. There's a certain layer of luck that's involved. With this style of format. And so what that means is it's not so much planning, but it's creating the correct headspace to be in. And so we don't need to have 100 stories, but we need to be like entering in at the right sort of mindset. And so I think yesterday was a good example of we can disregard all the storey stuff and all that sort of thing, but you still— I felt like flat. And so I felt that I couldn't like it was hard for me to bring something good to the show. And so part of it was, okay, I'm going to spend 5 minutes before you got here thinking about like, oh, what do I care about? What could we talk about? Oh, the gratitude thing would be good. It's normally just a 1 or 2 thoughts that lead into it.

Tommy: But that's it.

Josh: What do you think?

Tommy: Yeah. Yeah. I think for a long time we planned a lot more, I think.

Josh: And we had to because we did 100 episodes where I was remote. Yeah. And so I was overseas. And so at sometimes at 6 in the morning or 5:30 in the morning my time or 5:30, 6 in the morning Tommy's time, you would see like on our Trello ideas being populated. And that was a way— it was a security blanket for us knowing that like because we hadn't seen each other all day, we would only speak when we're doing the show. And that was really it until the— I think near the end we actually started like talking business and what our plans are.

Tommy: In hindsight, it's actually the perfect approach for a show that produces a lot of content. So they're doing every day like that. It makes sense to do that. I didn't think— I think to, to, um, do what we do, not plan a shitload and have a few pieces, but then being able to— I feel like we hit us— we hit a point where we— I feel like it was you know, like we could get into conversation and it's like a dance where we don't actually have to have too much, but we can still— I'm surprised we can even still talk after this many episodes, to be honest.

Jess: I think it's the beauty of the show, to me, the beauty of the show is that improvisational off the cuff. But I think it, to me, I kind of think about it like Seinfeld in that when you have established characters, it doesn't matter what the content is. You know, like if people are into who you are and the four of you, then it's like, I just want to hear what you like, whatever you're doing, it doesn't matter.

Tommy: Yeah, I saw, um, uh, Bobby Tarantino, um, Logic. It's his name, Bobby.

Josh: Who is he for anyone that's—

Tommy: Logic, he's rapper, one of the biggest rappers in the world at the moment. Um, white boy whose father's black, so he's biracial, so he uses the n-word, but he's a white guy, he can get away with it.

Josh: He's like top 40.

Tommy: Man, he's like, what, top 10 at the moment? Like, he's a—

George: he's got a hit with Eminem.

Tommy: He's, he's, he's the, he's the new version of Eminem, like a white guy who can rap really fast. And he's, and he's, he's got some swag, but he's not gangster or anything like that. So he— but he's in a, he's in like a real rap genre, genre. Um, anyway, I watched his, he's like, he's got this Bobby Boy TV or something, but I watched this episode last night. It was like 20 minutes and I just jumped through it. And it was shit. It was horrible.

Josh: But production value?

Tommy: No, a bit of everything. It was a bit boring. But I also, as long as saying shit from a production standpoint, I'm not saying he's shit or— Yeah, we're very critical about content from a, from a different angle. It's not trying to rip apart the person, but I was like, I, I like him and I'm watching it. So then I was like, okay, if it, if it is shit, he's got an audience, huge audience that would just love it because it is him. And it's hard when you— like, if someone out there has no following and no audience and decides to start vlogging, they're up against these people who have a tapped-in audience of millions and millions, and then they start doing something. So they automatically— so it's a, it's a weird, it's a weird one.

Josh: Well, it's like the Insta— I guess like Insta Stories are just like someone talking to a camera. There's not much production value to it.. And so then it becomes personality or like, you know, something beyond.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: I think it's— yeah, I think it's interesting. I think that the other thing too is it's like, it's easier having a team because then the— I guess the important bit is to be able to— it takes the pressure off any individual person because we always know that, uh, if Tommy's having a shit day, it doesn't necessarily need to be a shit show. And if I'm having a shit day, it doesn't doesn't need to be a shit show. And we've got like a supportive network that we can throw to and say, what do you think about this, Mr. 97? Which then buys us like a little bit of, yeah, you know. But also there's, it's, I think it makes for an interesting, we don't have that much interesting shit to say every day. And so having the different stimulus I think makes a difference as well.

Tommy: And cake.

Josh: Yeah, thank you so much.

Tommy: It's made the episode, to be honest.

Josh: It's been very good. If you've listened this far, please take a screengrab, put it onto your Insta stories. It helps us know that, you know, people are actually watching it.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And the stats aren't just bots. Wouldn't that be such a, such a shame?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: We're actually IAB compliant, which means that all of the stats are audited and shit. So we know that it's, it's legit. I didn't need to mention that, but it's an interesting, it's an interesting fact. If you're, if you're a podcaster, make sure that whatever podcast host you are using has IAB certified stats. Because what it means is like when we went, we went from non-certified to certified and the graph stayed the same, but numbers go down significantly because you basically go from, um, them counting everything. So say at a very like basic level, if, uh, Mr. 97 tried to download our show and then halfway through it went from Wi-Fi to 4G or something, some providers might see those two downloads or things like that. So IAB means that they do a better job of connecting listeners and saying, these are how many people you actually have listening.

Tommy: All I do know is, and what we can be certain of right now, we have one person who listens and it's Leah. She's on the couch.

Josh: Thanks, mate.

George: She's real.

Josh: She's real. So please do send those Instagram stories. Are we still leaving it open for people to send videos?

Tommy: Yeah, definitely. Definitely. We'll keep it going a little bit more.

Josh: Yeah. So send us a video mentioning the Gronk Squad. Say why you enjoy listening to the show. Maybe a little bit about yourself. We will in return send you stickers. And as a disclaimer, we will be putting it up in front of us on video forever. So please keep that in mind as well. It's a daily talk show. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com is the email address. We'll see you tomorrow, guys.

Jess: See you guys.