It's Monday, July 1, and there's a few things that we need to chat about...
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At a glance
From this episode’s transcript.
- –Josh missed his self-imposed July 1 deadline to handwrite a full rewrite of Seth Godin's 'This Is Marketing,' pushing completion to the following Saturday/Friday recording of Weekend Banter.
- –3D Dyl (Dylan Tordahl) surprised the team by revealing he wrote roughly half of a 25,000+ word self-published book, 'I'm Still Figuring It Out,' while his team assumed he was working on a different kind of announcement.
- –Committing to distant deadlines can be deceptively easy to promise and hard to deliver on, since the anxiety of an obligation doesn't bite until it's close.
- –Public promises affect the people around you (partners, audiences) and broken ones erode trust, so the hosts discuss only setting commitments they can actually keep.
- –Tommy's attempt at a personal step-count goal (33,000 steps/day for a month) in 2017 failed after 3 days due to injury, illustrating that oversized goals often collapse without proper preparation.
Questions this episode answers
Did Josh finish handwriting the Seth Godin 'This Is Marketing' rewrite by July 1 as promised?
No. By the July 1 episode he had completed roughly half the book (around 200 of 400 handwritten pages) and pushed the new deadline to the Friday Weekend Banter recording.
What was 3D Dyl's big announcement on The Daily Talk Show?
3D Dyl (Dylan Tordahl) revealed he had secretly written a self-help book called 'I'm Still Figuring It Out,' about moving from being a college student to living in Australia, planning to self-publish it as an ebook, print book, and audiobook via Amazon.
How can listeners get Daily Talk Show stickers?
Listeners are asked to send in a short video saying hello to the 'Gronk Squad' mentioning the show, and the hosts will send them UV-protected stickers and may feature the video on an episode.
Episode TranscriptShow
Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.
Josh: It's a Daily Talk Show episode 380.
Tommy: What's happening, guys? What's going on?
Josh: Uh, happy Monday.
Tommy: It is. Well, I'm a bit fucking burnt out, to be honest, and it's only the start of the week. This is when you should be, you know, chipper, should just be up and about, looking forward to smashing through the week. But no, the Gronk Squad is a bit fucking flat, I think. Yeah, after a big weekend.
Josh: Well, I was just saying you're a bit— eyes are a bit bloodshot.
Tommy: When I get really tired and I mean, I've done like benders on the weekend, not slept for a long time and felt better than I have today. Last night what we did was it was June 31st. No, sorry, July 31st.
Josh: June 30th.
Tommy: June 30th.
Josh: 30 days have September, April, June, and November.
Tommy: June 30th leading into July 1st, because let's be honest, there's a few announcements happening today.
Josh: Yeah. And so What happened yesterday? Well, first of all, we were also filming on Sunday.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: The Melbourne Roubaix. Yeah.
Tommy: What an event.
Josh: Roubaix. Is Roubaix French for something, Dill?
Unknown: Roubaix is French. I'm not 100% sure what it means, but I can—
Tommy: Roubaix is the race, the famous race across the French countryside on cobblestones.
Unknown: Okay.
Tommy: So I don't know if— I don't know what Roubaix means. I mean, before I thought it was just the stones, but they're— Cobblestones.
Josh: We've got Mr. Nice Guy.
Tommy: Anyway, we're making a video on it.
Mason: It's a city. Okay.
Josh: So, really?
Mason: City in northern France.
Unknown: Yeah.
Josh: Okay. There we go. Sort of like Bordeaux.
Tommy: Bordeaux.
Josh: It's got like the accent.
Mason: Same ending. Yeah.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: Anyway, but so we're filming that. But the main priority for me over the weekend was to fulfil this promise.
Tommy: Fulfil the promise that was made last November. I think it was. And the due date has been getting pushed back and June 30 was the day that we were going to smash out the last bit for a hopeful delivery of the Seth Godin handwritten book by July 1. Yeah, welcome to July 1, boys.
Josh: Yeah, clap it all in.
Tommy: Clap it in.
Josh: But the, what was interesting was I made the, I think it was about a month and a half ago that I said, July 1st, I'm putting it in the calendar.
Tommy: Uh, was it the end of financial year that made it feel nice? Like, you know, a lot of us like to set goals and with the start date January 1st.
Josh: No, it's— well, I think it was because, well, this is what I had in my head. Yeah, the July 1st. Multi-camera switching.
Mason: Yeah.
Tommy: Okay.
Josh: New, new motion graphics intro.
Unknown: Yeah.
Tommy: The moon in full rotation.
Josh: The web, the— our new website launched, right?
Tommy: And here we are, Mr. 97 married.
Josh: Yeah, I was dreaming, I was dreaming big apparently. But, um, everything— the thing is that we put— the thing that I've learned is you put in a date.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: And then whilst you might not meet the date, um, and that's not me saying that I haven't met the date but it sort of propels you.
Mason: Yeah.
Josh: From a motivational point of view.
Tommy: Oh, I know what you mean. So there's a few things we will find out on today's episode of The Daily Talk Show. Has Josh completed the Seth Godin This Is Marketing book handwritten? And we will also find out today what 3D Deals announcement is.
Josh: So that's where I was, I was going to mention when I said about this July 1st, a lot of things happening. 3D Deal started what could only be described as a campaign leading up to one of the greatest marketing campaigns for an announcement. He should be writing This Is Marketing.
Tommy: Oh my God, he's going to rip off his face and it's Seth Godin.
Josh: But the— no, but we did spend, I think, around From 6 PM until midnight last night, you sort of created a great spread of chocolate. Like, was the chocolate and all that sort of thing, that wasn't a stitch-up, was it? That was just you being supportive.
Tommy: No, I was just being supportive and I regret it. I mean, I was being supportive, but I also— it's taken the wind out of me. Yeah, I slept in the car downstairs for an hour this morning and I can't sleep in cars. Usually.
Josh: I can actually sleep in cars quite well.
Unknown: Yeah.
Tommy: Look, I mean, I don't really go in cars that much as a passenger on long trips, so I'm sure I could. I remember sleeping in the car as a kid, but I'm usually driving. But I mean, just like it's uncomfortable. It's like, you know, it's just, it's not a, it's not a flat position.
Josh: Yeah. Well, I ended up leaving the office at about 12:30 last night.
Tommy: Yeah. What time did you get to bed?
Josh: Ended up probably 1 o'clock.
Tommy: Yeah. Was Bree up?
Josh: No, Bree was asleep.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: She'd stayed up and watched the Logies. Tom Gleeson was very funny.
Tommy: Yeah. So that's quite a late finish. So.
Josh: Yeah. And so I, but I hadn't finished at the time. Do you know what percentage I was up to at the time that we wrapped up?
Mason: Was it 37% still?
Unknown: 42%.
Mason: Okay.
Unknown: I think you finished, you left at 42%.
Josh: Okay.
Tommy: 42% of the book complete by 12:30 last night.
Josh: And so we basically made the decision we just need to get this off my plate and our plate.
Tommy: We need to, dude.
Josh: And so, uh, the decision was made to delegate all of my jobs, and you guys have smashed it. I spent from, uh, 8 AM this morning until, uh, 2:30 PM. It's currently, uh, 4 PM. Yeah, so 2:30 PM I was, uh, writing.
Tommy: It's a good stint.
Josh: And so the question will be, which we'll answer very soon, the book, how's it looking? And all that sort of thing.
Tommy: Where you're up to.
Josh: Maybe. Or maybe it's completed. First of all, we have a couple of video messages. You put a call out, was it like a week ago or something?
Tommy: Yeah, this is lovely. I just wanted to see some faces of the Gronk Squad. And so we can familiarise ourselves with the Gronkh Squad. And so I said, look, just send in a little video. What's up, Gronkh Squad? It's blah, blah, blah. And just a nice little message and we'll send you some stickers.
Josh: Well, it was, it was really based around the stickers. We got these primo stickers. They cost about $0.50 apiece, UV protected. You could put them in the back of the car, but that's not just— you can put them on the back of a laptop like we've done here. It looks great. And so we've received a couple of messages. So I thought let's start off by playing a couple of messages we got over the weekend, and then I think we need to go to 3D Dills announcement.
Tommy: Really?
Josh: Okay, so here we go. I'm just— let's just play these.
F: What's up, Grump Squad? Guys, absolutely love the show. Um, just hanging out for 3D Dills announcement, seriously. Um, and love the banter, love the chat. And just find it super entertaining every day. My name is Leah, I should say, and I'm actually lucky enough to be coming in to sit in with you guys on Wednesday. So I thought I better do my video because if I get there and I haven't done my video, then the guys are gonna be like, "Lift your game." So I'm lifting my game and I cannot wait to meet you all on Wednesday. Thanks guys.
Tommy: I mean, polite saying that would say lift your game, I'd say you're not coming in.
Josh: Well, I think Leah's also played a great game, which was, she may have heard a previous episode where someone was sitting in and they came mid-show because we forgot. There might be an element of a little bit of prompting going on here that she's doing, being like, hey guys, just so you know, Wednesday. Yeah, yeah, I'm coming to sit in the show. So we do do that, to be honest, the odd occasion. We, we have a couch that people can come in and watch us record the show, especially if you're like in like wanting to do a podcast or in the industry or stuff like that. It's just I know that it was a big thing in radio when I was working like at Drive It was, you know, it was sort of a big deal going in and I was like, why don't we do like, we've got a studio.
Tommy: It's lovely. It's lovely. I'm just, I'm just glad that it's not today or tomorrow because I think we'd still be a bit flat. Wednesday, I reckon we'll be back at it. Yeah.
Josh: Well, this is, I will say though, that part of the problem I'm discovering is it's easy to look forward and like to look at to the future and say, oh, by then it's all going to be good.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: And that's exactly what happened with the book. I was like, the 1st of July, that's so far away.
Unknown: I can do that.
Josh: There is something very dangerous, very, very dangerous in long-term sort of like committing to something that's far away. It's what got me as a kid all the time. It's like people who invite you to things far out. Yeah, far enough out that you're like, oh, that's no big deal, it's going to be fine. It doesn't— if it's within a week, you get to sort of play in that anxiety where you're like, actually, I don't want to go. So anyway, so, so thank you, Leah. We've got, we've got another one here. Uh, this one is from Tiffany.
Unknown: Hey, Gronkh Squad! Thought I would pull an epic Gronkh move. I'm coming at you live from Canggu, Bali, poolside on my island home. Um, just wanted to send you guys a huge thanks because after a hectic, um, Handmaid's Tale episode last night, I listened to Friday night's episode um, before I went to sleep, and you guys had me in hysterics. You were so tired and so delirious that some of the shit that you were saying, just— I was laughing so, so, so much. Um, Tommy Jacket, your references to darts and durries was peak Australia. Um, Josh, mate, good luck tomorrow. Hope you can get through. Um, get through rewriting the book. Wish you all the luck. Make Seth Godin proud, please. Make us all proud. We're rooting for you, dude. We're rooting for you. 3D Dill, hope to be very impressed by your announcement in 2 days, I think it is, on Monday, July. So yeah. Mr. 97, don't know really what to say to you. Don't know if you've got any news, but thought I'd just come at you guys and say love the show, and I hope to see you guys in Bali soon, um, pulling a Fat Friday poolside with me. Cheers, guys.
Tommy: Okay, a few, a few things I need.
Josh: Handmaid's Tale, have you watched that or no?
Tommy: No, but I think, um, I think Amy watches it too, and, and she has the same effect. It rattles people.
Josh: Why watch anything that— it's like a Black Mirror or Dark Mirror.
Tommy: Black Mirror.
Josh: Yeah, everyone's watching.
Tommy: Like, I just—
Josh: yeah, I need that negativity.
Tommy: It rattles you. So a little update from our extremely hot fried chicken that I ended up getting, the fried roulette, fried chicken roulette. Saturday morning, I'm— I got picked up at 6:30 to go and do the the spit.
Josh: I had to put on the spit.
Tommy: It was a great—
Josh: I don't think you've spoken about this.
Tommy: I haven't talked about that, but I— but for my mate's 30th birthday, I was in charge of doing the lamb spit.
Josh: Why were you in charge?
Tommy: Because I offered. He said to me, I want to do this. I said, mate, you gotta hire it, get that, you do that, I'll be there. I'll be there at 6:30 AM and I'll do it all for you because it's not— it's not easy.
Josh: Will you do that for my birthday?
Tommy: I'd do it for any of you guys.
Josh: Okay.
Tommy: It's hard. And that's my way of showing my love. Anyway, I'm sitting there, I've got Sam Harris in my ears. It's 6:05 AM and I'm meditating. And 5 minutes into the meditation, my eyes open. Oh, shit. I had to cut my meditation short to run to the bathroom.
Josh: Really? You couldn't continue the meditation on the toilet?
Tommy: Um, it was still in my ears because it was in my ear. I had AirPods on and I had to have an emergency stop.
Josh: Could you imagine Fat Friday's Bali Belly Style?
Tommy: My guts were on fire.
Josh: It's a good— it's sort of a— it feels like a bit of a detox, doesn't it? Feels like a purge.
Tommy: It was, it How it went in and the spices around you, was that what came out?
Josh: Was it really that strong for you?
Tommy: It just, I don't know, but for the rest of the day, my guts felt like they were just tingling with, you know, like if your lips actually go a bit red from spice.
Josh: Your tummy, it feels like I have this, I feel, especially from the writing, just a bit inflamed at the moment.
Tommy: It's probably from the kilo of chocolate.
Josh: No, but just like everything, like I just feel so, I just need to be, I was literally having to lay down to write yesterday.
Tommy: It's a sedentary game what you've entered into.
Josh: But I think there's def— what if looking back.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: If I was to say now the I'm either going to walk a million steps in a month.
Tommy: Which you've committed to and you didn't do.
Josh: Which I did. You did, to be fair. I got injured. So last year, I think in— was it last year or the year before? It was before the Daily Talk Show, wasn't it?
Mason: It was the year before.
Josh: It was the year before, 2017 in August. I set out to do a million steps in a month, which is about 33,000 steps in a day, which is great if you don't have a job. The thing is, I was waking up early. I was getting up like getting up at 5, walking, having it all done by 9:30 in the morning.
Tommy: The proof is in the pudding. You did it and you—
Josh: I didn't stretch.
Tommy: The goal's too fucking big. It's nothing about stretching, dude.
Josh: I don't think it was because I thought it was— my foot was going to fall off, but I'd had such tight calves. I made it 3 days. I did over 100,000 steps before it all happened. Like, I did, I did 3 days of meeting the 33,000 steps.
Tommy: I think the goal's too big. I think that's like, you know, like, I'm gonna run a marathon in 1 month's time. It's like, I think it's, I guess you can map out goals. It's kind of like this Seth Godin one. But, um, I think, uh, what do you reckon? Is it time?
Josh: I think it is time. Thank you, Tiffany, for sending that message from Bali. We should, we could definitely do a Potato Head Oh, that'd be good.
Tommy: That's where I met Amy.
Josh: I know, that's what I thought.
Tommy: Oh my God, it's, um, it's our wedding anniversary tomorrow.
Mason: Really?
Josh: What do you mean?
Tommy: Nothing at this moment, mate. It's still tight, still tight.
Josh: Maybe we could— you could piggyback off 3D Deal's announcement if it's good enough.
Tommy: Well, I hope it's good. So I've got a camera on 3D Deal right now.
Josh: I'm so glad the RX100 is getting some use, by the way.
Tommy: I have sensed some nerves in the office. I mean, 3D Deal keeps it pretty cool, calm composure about him.
Josh: Yeah, he's—
Tommy: look at him, man, he's agreeing. Yeah, fucking dope.
Josh: No, I think that there's definitely— no, I'm definitely sensing it now too. He's darting. I love it. I love deconstructing people's vibes and my heart's going.
Mason: I'm excited.
Tommy: Oh mate, your heart hasn't been this elevated since you went on your first date.
Josh: So to be clear, where is everyone's anxiety sitting right now, starting with Mr. 97? Where is your anxiety sitting with this whole announcement for 3D Deal?
Mason: I don't know if there's anxiety. I think it's just more excitement.
Tommy: Okay.
Mason: Yeah.
Josh: Oh, that's really good. What about you, TJ?
Tommy: I'm just excited. Like, I feel—
Josh: I'm the only one that's anxious.
Tommy: No, no. Like, this is probably the closest. My heart rate. You can feel my heart. It's really beating. Can you feel that?
Josh: The subtle beat?
Tommy: Yeah, it's because I'm fit.
Josh: I mean, but I guess part of it is Like, for instance, you had Peter Shepherd come in to support me last night.
Tommy: Yeah, thanks, Pete.
Josh: And I panicked in the moment and just like— And so, that I actually blame part of my speed issues yesterday.
Tommy: Speed?
Josh: Yes, I was slow yesterday, I think. The issue was with the fact that I was hosting. It felt like I was hosting Pete here as well. So, I was trying to talk to him and say, mate, would you like an M&M? No, I've brushed my teeth.
Unknown: Anyway.
Josh: I don't know what the point was.
Tommy: It's time. It's time to find out what 3D Dill's announcement has been. He prepped, he teased this maybe 4 weeks ago.
Josh: That's it. Just very quickly. That's what I'm worried about. I don't know. So Dill, being completely honest.
Mason: Yeah.
Josh: If it's a very personal announcement that's exciting for you and not for us. I'm gonna find it hard. Sorry, if it's—
Tommy: I'll agree with that.
Josh: If it's anything like—
Mason: you're anxious that it won't live up to expectations.
Josh: Yeah, no, I'm actually— it's not that. I'm anxious that I'm not going to give you what you want. Okay, right now, for a reaction. So if it's anything to do with I've paid off my student loans, don't fucking bother.
Tommy: I don't— yeah, I don't know what this all came about from. What Mason and I were convinced was a night on the booze and he got a bit confident and he was on the Daily Talk Show's Insta account, flowing out a few Insta storeys talking about his announcement. Next day, we knocked out a few sails, cut his finger nearly off.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: And so the announcement kind of got pushed to the side, but it was still there. He's still there with it.
Josh: The thing that we'll never know and only 3D Deal will know is whether the announcement has changed over the last—
Unknown: Oh yeah.
Josh: Because I would feel if I'd come up with an announcement and it was a secret. Yeah. I reckon the whole time I'd be scheming potentially a better announcement. It feels like it's built up time.
Unknown: Okay, so no, it's, it's stayed the same.
Tommy: Okay, okay. Right. Stayed the same. What also stayed the same was his promotional material that he, that he took photos of right in front of you. Why batch them? He batched them.
Mason: He fixed the typo.
Tommy: Yeah, but he, but he, so he did a typo in his first one, but then he batched a whole bunch of photos. I noticed.
Josh: I mean, it's, it's not my style. All right, it's sort of—
Unknown: but anyway, my, mine is complete. Mine is ready. Okay, okay, that's the difference.
Josh: The fact that it's ready— I mean, me saying I'm going to write the book was an announcement.
Tommy: True, true.
Josh: So there could be a bunch of work after this. This is literally— I didn't— I just said the announcement. Think about like, if we're just to look at How good I am for a sec?
Tommy: Because he's never said, I've got some big news to share. He said, I've got an announcement, which could be big news to share. Okay, well, let's then— all right, let's stop hypothesizing.
Josh: Uh, 3D Dill. Yeah, it's July 1st. It is indeed, uh, 2019. It's 4:17 PM here in Melbourne, Australia. Uh, what is your announcement?
Unknown: Well, first off, happy Canada Day. To people listening in Canada. Great.
Josh: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Unknown: You're welcome. And also, it was my parents' 23rd wedding anniversary on June 29th. So you mentioning the anniversary thing, Tommy, that got me onto it. So yeah, props to my parents because they're part of the reason that I'm here.
Tommy: Is he doing NLP on us?
Unknown: I'd also like to thank my, my producer and everyone else. No, this, this all started— I actually, I unintentionally teased this way back in March when we FaceTimed for the first time on episode 307.
Tommy: What'd you say?
Unknown: And I said, well, that's going to be the announcement, I think, isn't it? No. Okay, you gotta let me finish.
Josh: Okay.
Unknown: All right, so it was all in the conversation we were having. You guys were talking about like, what do you want to do when you get down here? What's— what do you want to learn, etc., etc. And I had this idea of like, I want to make some kind of a short film or like 20 to 30 minute process video of how I came from being this college student to now moving to Australia for 4 months. And that kind of the vision of that kind of died for me. As in when you arrived here or no, but these fingers nearly fell off. But no, it just— the video aspect of it didn't feel the right way for me to tell that story. So if we go back to June 13th, 12 hours before I cut my thumb off and I made those Instagram stories.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: What were the Instagram stories? Oh, you took—
Tommy: you remember he was walking through.
Unknown: I was walking through one of the parks after going to a—
Josh: Oh, so that was the day after is when you cut your thumb? Yeah.
Unknown: Literally 12 hours later.
Josh: Okay. And if that's an excuse for why the announcement's not happening, I'm going to be spewing.
Unknown: Oh, no, no, no, no.
Josh: All right.
Unknown: I'm building it up a bit.
Josh: Okay.
Unknown: And Queen Gronkh, you were, you were lying in bed, Josh, and you saw my Instagram posts, right? And you posted a cute little smug mugshot of yourself saying, in bed wondering what 3D Dill is going to announce.
Josh: Sure.
Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. You remember that? Yeah.
Josh: I think even Tommy Maybe.
Tommy: Yeah, I did a response to you.
Josh: Yeah, there's something quite chilling about the way 3D Dwarves— it feels like he's—
Tommy: Mason's body language is kind of closed off.
Josh: I just saw Mr. 97 look at the door, the exit.
Unknown: Okay, and then Queen Gronkh, Gemma Watts, at 10:13 PM, almost a full 12 hours before I actually cut my thumb off. Messages you and says, maybe he's written a book, dot, dot, dot. To which you replied with some weird stupid emoji, if he's beaten me to the punch, dot, dot, dot. And I don't remember what happened after that because I screenshotted it because I was like, wow, the post has been up for 13 minutes. Yeah. And Gemma got it right, right off the bat. So I took my idea to do a short-form process video of how I came from being this college student living in a basement to living in Australia.
Josh: Mm-hmm.
Unknown: And actually wrote a book about it in a month and a half. And I would also like to point out that I wrote half of it. I wrote about 25,000 words with a fucked up thumb.
Josh: When are you doing it? You're doing this in the evenings?
Unknown: I'll do it in the evenings, in my spare time.
Tommy: Let me read between the lines. You're releasing an ebook.
Unknown: I'm releasing— it's going to be an ebook, a physical book, and an audiobook. So on August 1st— August 2nd, sorry, because that's a Friday.
Josh: It sounds like he's doing what I did. Don't do what I did.
Unknown: August 2nd, the print and audiobook will be available on Amazon, and about 2 weeks after that date, it'll be available on iTunes. And near the end of August, it's called— it's called I'm Still Figuring It Out by Dylan Tordahl.
Tommy: That's the name of it?
Unknown: That's, that's the name of it.
Josh: This is outrageous.
Unknown: The best part is, is that it's all original. I didn't have to copy it off of anything.
Josh: Wait, can we see— can we see some form of proof of the 35,000? Can, can we turn to—
Tommy: he's pulled out his bag.
Unknown: Mason actually drove me to Officeworks to pick up the manuscript and didn't even realise it. Mason doesn't drive. Oh, but he did.
Mason: No, well, learning.
Tommy: Who was driving? I was driving.
Mason: I was driving.
Josh: Are you kidding me?
Unknown: My mom was in the front seat.
Tommy: She's fucking kidding me.
Josh: You gotta be kidding me. He's actually—
Tommy: Jesus, it's very heavy.
Josh: Can I— all right, this is—
Tommy: oh, look at that, he's even gone through and done—
Unknown: so I'm in the process of editing it right now.
Tommy: How?
Unknown: Just one-handed with my left hand.
Josh: Josh, the binding is phenomenal. This is everything you could have done.
Tommy: This could be— he's stolen your announcement. He legit has taken—
Josh: I'm so impressed. Very impressive. I mean, you've told your, um, your college tutors that you were unable to, um, get the— you're meant to be working on something else for school.
Mason: An essay?
Josh: An essay.
Unknown: Yeah, I'm supposed to be doing like a 10-page essay.
Josh: How many pages?
Unknown: Uh, it's about 140 at the moment. Jeez.
Tommy: Uh, do we get a mention?
Unknown: You will.
Tommy: What, we haven't yet?
Josh: Do you want me to—
Unknown: no, no, you guys are in there 100%.
Josh: Do you want me to, um, do I want to read a random bit? Do you want to read it? I think it should be in your voice.
Unknown: Yeah, I can.
Josh: Okay, there you go. You keep talking. It is so impressive. Voiceover work. So you've got to look at the, um, the YouTube video because it's the thickness. I mean, you're using double spacing.
Unknown: As you should with a printed manuscript.
Josh: Yeah, I know you're speaking to a fucking— I rewrite books still.
Unknown: Yes, I, I just write.
Josh: All right, okay, all right, I write them, you can rewrite them. Okay, great, I'll rewrite.
Unknown: Here we go, you can rewrite mine.
Josh: Okay, here we go.
Unknown: Um, I'm still just— I'm trying to find, um, one of my favourite parts about it.
Josh: So how did you organize— like, how did you, uh, plan what you were going to write?
Unknown: I wrote it down like the second day I was here.
Mason: Okay, great.
Josh: Remember when I would like your content? Oh yeah, that's right.
Unknown: The, uh, the yellow pads.
Josh: Yeah, yeah, that's what you've been using.
Tommy: God, he's a man just with a meticulous plan.
Unknown: Yep.
Josh: How is this—
Mason: how is this going on Amazon? Can you just—
Unknown: can anyone just upload Amazon self-publishing?
Mason: Oh great.
Unknown: So I'm doing it indie publishing because I want to retain ownership of rights.
Josh: Penguin hasn't picked it up yet.
Unknown: Not yet, not yet.
Tommy: Wiley Madoff.
Josh: This is crazy.
F: All right.
Josh: So can you read us a bit in your voice over her voice, please? Yeah. All right.
Unknown: When I was a kid, I used to say I wanted to be an engineer, a scientist, or a journalist just because the words were easy and they were there. I still don't think about what I'm going to do with the rest of my life.
Josh: This is— it is so good. It explains the Instagram captions as well. It's got a certain flow to it. It's, it's quite inspirational.
Unknown: Keep going. Tomorrow will come eventually. I'll figure it out when it gets here. What I focus on instead is what I love doing. That's all we get for now.
Josh: What are you gonna do for a, for a cover?
Unknown: I've already designed it.
Tommy: Heavy.
Unknown: All right, it'll go up on the storey later tonight.
Tommy: He's not here to fuck spots.
Josh: No, it is, it is impressive.
Tommy: It's, mate, it is very impressive. Let's click it in. Let's talk about Shit done attitude. Let's clap that in.
Unknown: I appreciate it.
Josh: And the title was once again, I'm Still Figuring It Out. I'm Still Figuring It Out.
Tommy: I like that. And what's the title of your book, Josh? I'm Still Writing It.
Josh: So with Dyl's announcement, I appreciate that he went to Office Works and did that.
Unknown: For just including with the announcement, once the print physical book is ready to go, because it does take time to be processed and formatted. Um, I will be giving away 10 copies.
Tommy: I can't take him seriously.
F: Go on.
Josh: I'll—
Unknown: we'll figure it out when those 10 people, yeah, write in or email in or whatever. We'll figure that out.
Tommy: But what's that quote? First they laugh, then they—
Josh: oh yeah, uh, yeah, first they doubt you.
Unknown: Look it up.
Tommy: First they laugh.
Josh: I'm pretty sure Dylan came up with the quote, right? It is, it is, um, no, it is very impressive.
Tommy: We like taking the piss of each other here, and, uh, I think it's required.
Josh: Well, it's— there is a, there's a certain element that, uh, you've, um, yeah, you've just beat me to the punch. Have you found, have you found the quote?
Mason: First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, and then they fight you, then you win.
Josh: Okay, so we're at the laughing stage, so we're gonna punch on next week. Okay, so if we— on the Instagram account, you're going to post the, uh, yeah.
Unknown: But also, Gemma has to get her own free copy. Okay, because she guessed it within 13 minutes and didn't even know.
Tommy: And so that's right, I liked it.
Josh: And so at that point, had you written any of the book?
Unknown: Yeah, it was basically all like— it was halfway done.
Josh: Oh really?
Unknown: And then I fucked up my thumb.
Tommy: Which made for a great chapter 12. Through adversity comes triumph.
Unknown: It was super slow going.
Josh: Who's your audience?
Unknown: My audience, I wrote it down so I could remember because I didn't know how nervous I would get. I wrote the book that I would've wanted to read 3 years ago. So whether it's you're feeling like you haven't figured out your life yet, you don't know what you want to do, you're— you feel like you're being pushed towards the college route, as I kind of felt like I was.
Josh: Yeah.
Unknown: Or if you're like, you're feeling lost per se and you don't know where to go, or if you are doing your own thing, like Matt D'Avella always says, create your own path. And if you are creating your own path and you're like, is this— is this what I'm supposed to be doing? Is this where I'm supposed to be going?
Josh: So I'm just, I'm just scheming a book signing or something. There definitely should be some form of book signing. Where are you? Just logistics-wise, do we know where we're like, um, printing? I'm just curious, like, do you—
Unknown: it's a print-on-demand service.
Josh: Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Tommy: My mum's got, um, she, she's got a book and you can buy a bunch yourself and then sell them, but you can buy them through the website. There's like a bunch of those, um Ghost Publishers or something. And so they, they just print them when, when you order them.
Josh: Are you gonna have anyone edit them or you're editing all yourself?
Unknown: I, I like the control of editing it all myself.
Josh: I wonder how—
Tommy: I mean, give the final version to somebody to go up. Yeah, it's probably cost a lot of money. Actually, nah, fuck it, maybe put it out.
Josh: I can just read it.
Tommy: Put it out.
Josh: Yeah, it'll take me too long. All right, all right, all right. So that's— I mean, that's a great announcement.
Tommy: It's amazing. It's amazing because he's also done our branding He's also done a lot of other things for our business.
Josh: I mean, he's a hard worker. I think that's the interesting thing is the amount, the volume in which you work is extremely impressive.
Tommy: I mean, Amy and I were having a conversation. She's directly impacted by your decision and your promise because I got home and she was up last night. She couldn't get to sleep without me being there.
Josh: Oh, that's nice.
Tommy: And so what I'm saying, I think—
Josh: Braylee was fast asleep.
Tommy: She's used to those fucking promises from you. But I think It is. We have to be careful about the promises we make in this space because they directly impact the people around us. So keep that in mind with any further promises that you make. But can we complete, uh, the back end of your explanation?
Josh: Close the loop.
Tommy: Can we close the loop on the Seth Godin book for yourself?
Josh: We can close a loop. With, uh, and what I'll show you now is what I've done, and then I'll tell you what's next. Okay, okay, here we go. I'm just going to my bag, so I'm just pulling out the, uh, the book, uh, that where I've been writing.
Tommy: Okay, on the front cover it says 400. Is that 400 pages? Yeah, so I'm just going to hand that to you to you. Okay, I've got it.
Josh: Okay, it's, uh, oh my God, it looks very—
Tommy: it's the same size as Dylan's. Can you just hold up yours, Dil?
Josh: But he's— keep in mind he's double spacing. All right, now also take that, which is the first.
Tommy: Okay, we've got a bunch of stuff going on here.
Josh: And then this is the— this is marketing. Okay, so what I want you to do, so flick through the book.
Tommy: Okay.
Josh: And see Does it feel significant?
Tommy: Um, well, it feels— I mean, out of the 400 pages—
Josh: ignore the fucking 400 pages.
Tommy: It feels— yeah, it's fairly significant.
Josh: But give it to anyone else other than Thomas. You don't know what significant is.
Tommy: But I mean, give it to the guy over here who just wrote a 25,000-word book.
Josh: Give it to Mr. 97.
Tommy: It's all happening here. All right, he's looking for support through Mr. 97.
Josh: So it's double, double-sided.
Mason: No, that's, that's a pretty solid effort. I would say almost 200 pages, a bit like half the book is done.
Josh: Yes.
Tommy: Okay, so where are we up to? Give us an update percentage-wise as of July 1. 2019.
Josh: So before I announce that, no, no, before I announce that, what I will say, what I will say is that, uh, we joked last night, we said, hahaha, it's, it's, it's all bit hard, it's a bit hard, harder than I thought. Yes, we knew that. And then we came up with the scheme that I didn't say July 1 in what country And so the bit of shtick that I was going to do was I was going to say it's based on New York time because that's where Seth Godin is based.
Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Josh: Hudson on Hastings. Hastings on Hudson.
Tommy: Do you want me to ask Siri what time it is in New York City?
Josh: You can.
Tommy: Okay, what time is it in New York City?
Josh: That won't give you the time.
Unknown: 2:32 AM in New York, New York, the United States.
Tommy: So 2:30 AM on July 1st.
Josh: Okay. And so I think what we worked out was, uh, the end of July 1st for New York City is 2 PM tomorrow. Is that time? I'm sick of making promises I can't keep, right? Let's make that clear. Yeah. And so what I've done is I put together what I'm calling a plan. Yeah. To see this through. On the weekend, it is weekend banter. It's the first time that we're going to 7 days a week. It seems like a great opportunity to, on Saturday's episode, to have it completely done. What that means from a— if this is the tax office or anything like that, you need to sort of communicate what your plan is, how you're going to pay this tax bill.
Tommy: Yeah, how you're going to pay this.
Josh: So the way that I am dealing with this book debt. 4 hours an evening because I just can't have— we can't— today, for instance. Yeah, you didn't have me today. Yeah, I spent the whole day at home writing. I didn't stop. I had one almond croissant. Did you?
Tommy: Where from?
Josh: Uh, Bree got it from, um, that duck place across the road.
Tommy: Oh yeah, yep.
Josh: The Pavlov's dog. Yeah, yeah, it was delicious.
Tommy: And so, but distracting.
Josh: Yes. And so what I think is the 4 hours a day means that in 4 days that will be 16 hours. Within 16 hours, I should— I will be able to— are you okay, Dyl?
Unknown: Yeah, I hit my thumb right in the middle of my announcement, trying to take away from it.
Tommy: For the second time today.
Josh: It's outrageous. I wouldn't be surprised if he puts his other thumb through a French press.
Unknown: I'll get another book done regardless.
Josh: And so anyway, so on Saturday, yeah, that will be the final cutoff. Yeah, uh, it will be completely done. It means that we can be responsible, get all of our client work done. What does everyone think? So I think it should be a celebration. When I was thinking about all of this, I was like because Bree said to me, I'm really proud of you. And I want to make sure that the tone is that of support and appreciation of how much effort I've put into this and not the feeling—
Tommy: The statement of being proud is of you doing it currently, not of you completing it.
Josh: Yes, correct.
Tommy: Don't confuse those two things.
Josh: That's exactly right. I have not done it.
Mason: Okay.
Josh: So what you're learning through this whole thing mate, that I'm tired.
Tommy: Yeah, that promises don't mean anything, that I've got trust issues.
Josh: But literally, we set out to go onto the Mars. I'm taking a break on the moon and you fuckers are like, oh, we didn't make it.
Tommy: No, mate, don't, don't think that you've got to the moon. Where's the moon? What is the moon?
Josh: If I had my lunar calendar up, I would be able to tell you.
Tommy: But anyway, none of this is Anyway, how do you feel about it? I'm tired. I don't want to talk about it anymore. If you're planning on actually doing an episode on Saturday or Sunday, that's not happening because I've got to celebrate my anniversary.
Josh: We're doing the week— we're doing Weekend Banter. We're gonna do Weekend Banter. We do pre-record Weekend Banter.
Tommy: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So we're gonna do it before—
Josh: so Friday we're gonna record— we're gonna record Weekend Banter on Friday.
Tommy: So you have to have it done.
Josh: I'm having it done.
Tommy: Okay, so the way to cut through that 15-minute monologue, Josh has now pushed out the completion date to Friday, which you'll hear if he's done it or not. And if we—
Josh: if we go silent and never talk about it again, it didn't happen.
Tommy: It didn't happen.
Josh: But that's actually not happening, in all seriousness.
Tommy: But I think if, if you don't complete it by this weekend, it is a cutoff, and everyone has to say this is— this can actually never be spoken about again. It's too embarrassing for the Daily Talk Show. But the thing is, the legacy we want to leave—
Josh: you can clearly see that I am committed to it because the amount of—
Tommy: Can you? You're in a pair of tracksuit pants right now.
Josh: I'm in tracksuit pants because I didn't fucking leave the house today.
Tommy: So am I, so am I. I mean, like, if you think about it, I would not be fucking getting dressed today.
Josh: You're wearing parachute ones, which are a bit noisier.
Tommy: Yeah, yeah.
Josh: I mean, what's, um, what do you think, Mr. 97, of all this?
Mason: I'm just wondering why I stayed up late last night.
Josh: Yeah, well, it was a good bonding experience. We also worked on the website. How are you feeling about the website?
Mason: It's great.
Tommy: It's coming along.
Mason: It's nearly there.
Tommy: The website is coming, guys. Um, yeah, that's actually happening.
Josh: Yeah, no, this is— but I mean, the thing is that you can see that you're rattled. Well, you can also see with the book, I've gone through like 4 fucking pens. How many times have you worked on a project where you see the life and death of a pen and made $0? Countless times. Really? Is that quite common? Yeah.
Tommy: Anyway, we need to, um, we need to get this business back onto track, on track. So I need you to complete this. We're not going to mention it for the rest of the week until, until Saturday, the episode. I'm not even going to ask.
Josh: We should try and go—
Tommy: no one ask him how it's going. Just let you, let you just do your thing. Yeah, because to be honest, what it actually reiterates, and it's such a simple mythology, is mythology— methodology, sorry— where you show up every single day, and if you'd fucking done 3 pages 6 months ago per day, today you could have written 4 books. The reality is you've been a lazy cunt.
Josh: He's tired.
Tommy: I didn't mean to say that. Sorry, mate.
Josh: That's okay.
Tommy: As I said it, I realised the gravitas of my words.
Josh: No, that's okay.
Tommy: I'm tired.
Josh: I've got to go home. Um, no, but I think it's all, it's all positive. We've got a lot A lot happening, a lot happening in July.
Tommy: So let's get this out of the way.
Josh: Yeah, we've got the website stuff. I reckon the web— I'm not going to put a date on the website, but it is very close, very close to being done.
Tommy: You know what this team needs to do? We need to—
Josh: and I want to—
Tommy: no, no, no, it's not about team building, it's about rebuilding our trust with the Gronk Squad. Yeah, I honestly think we need to, and it's why I It's why I refrain from making promises that I can't fulfill.
Unknown: It's pretty boring though.
Tommy: Yeah, but it's also how you keep trust within the people because you just set things that you can hit.
Josh: But then it becomes a, oh, I don't know, like, hey man, do you want to hang out on Saturday?
Tommy: Oh, I don't know, can't make that promise.
Josh: Yeah, we're not sure.
Tommy: I think there is something to the promise. I actually think you've learned a lesson from promise making in this scenario because you were like, mate, I fuck it, mate. Any promises that I fucking want.
Josh: Yeah. And I don't give a fuck. Yeah.
Tommy: And now I think you're sort of—
Josh: I'm not burnt though, because like promises—
Tommy: we're not there yet.
Josh: If we're doing a reconcile of promises, have you got the doc 97 of promises that you created maybe 4 months ago?
Mason: Yeah, give me one.
Tommy: Which I think we hold it for weekend banter. No, I need to go home, um, because I'm tired.
Josh: How long's the podcast— how long's this episode gone?
Mason: 42.
Tommy: Yeah, exactly.
Josh: Jesus, it's been some big enough— it's Guys, please, if you, um, if you are listening, please screen grab, uh, on your phone or take a photo and put it on your Instagram story. Tag us so we can know that you're listening and we can say thank you. We are on YouTube, The Daily Talk Show. Please subscribe there, comment, like, all of that good stuff.
Tommy: And Dyl's book will be coming to an Amazon near you, website near you.
Josh: I guess you have a microsite. That's why he's pushing the merch section on the Daily Talk Show.
Unknown: He's gonna build one of those out. Yeah.
Josh: Okay. It's a daily talk show, everyone. And also the stickers too. If you do want the stickers, just email us a video mentioning the Gronk Squad. Say hello.
Tommy: Like Tiff, like Leah.
Josh: Yeah. And if you, if you do send it to us, we will put it up on the episode. So sure, if you're okay with that, then send it through. Otherwise, Tommy's off to bed and we'll see you tomorrow. Have a good one. See you guys.
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