#320 – Tommy’s Lost His Ego/
- April 8, 2019
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show we discuss:
Tommy’s experience with the Wim Hoff Method
Josh’s new shoes
Josh’s compression socks
Craig Bruce’s Game Changers Podcast
Game Changers Interview with Craig Bruce:
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What's happening, boys? Happy Monday. Yeah, what's what's happening? It's all happening. So happening for Monday. I feel good. It was a big week last week and I feel rested and rejuvenated. Yeah,
I was I was exhausted by Friday. I was fact. Yeah, yeah,
we did. We had four guests on the show last week. So we thought Monday, we just need to have a bit of a time. Yeah, it's a new time. Did you end up doing that ice thing that you're going to do on? Oh, yeah.
So what does it involve involved like if you entering into a fridge.
So the the Wim Hof Method, which is he made this famous, he made getting just people getting getting into ice cold water famous. But it's for the benefit of the individual who gets into it. So I did it. My friend, I bumped into him a couple of weeks ago, Duncan owns a business called fifth direction. And I saw this, I saw this pop up that, like you said, they've literally got a freezer, like a fridge looking thing, tipped it on its side and built a box around it. And it's filled with water. It's a bit more technical than that. But that's what it looks like. So it's like sealed in the water just ease in there all the time. And it's always cool for three or two degrees, is
it because there's the most chambers, you can go in that like float tanks?
Yes. And I did not that this is different. This is literally like just a big body of water that you get into and it's freezing cold. So he invited me to do one. And I went down over the weekend. And I was a bit fucking It was almost like I didn't like you know, you know, the uncomfortable moment is ahead. And you know, I just would rather not have digitas I can show you a photo. And I haven't put one up or anything. But maybe I can put it on the ground put on the
way. So it's probably what six,
six and six foot maybe because you're not completely flat. You wouldn't want to be flat because the underwater
it's a big sized fridge think that your fridge at home. It's a bit like a big one big family. So I
actually a fridge, you
know it's legit a freezer. Okay, and so they just have the water in there. And there's this temperature gauge in there. So it was four degrees. And we did this. What's interesting is a lot of these people who are doing running these ice bath sessions are removing the word Wim Hof from it, because he's charging. It's like, it's like, right now Sydney Opera House can't mention them in advertising is Charlie mentioned. Yeah. Because they taking a bit of money from
so like the Olympics.
So a lot of these businesses removing women's name from but it's still that sort of methods. So we did a bunch of breathing before.
What do they call it? Does that change the name?
Is it No, we just No, not when it's like, it's more on advertise. Okay, as I know, this is still the Wim Hof Method. But supposedly whims not actually in charge of it all. So it's like, it's
like some governing body for the Wim Hof interesting method or whatever. And so we did this breathing stuff in my face was tingling moms. It's amazing. It's really cool. So you like you pretty amped to go in. And by the time I got to the bath, I was like, actually feel pretty disconnected from what's about to happen. Like that feeling from before when I was like, I can't be bothered going because I'm gonna feel it's going to be really uncomfortable suck. I'd kind of disconnected from what I was about to experience.
It's like when I go on a plane. I think that I actually have quite a fear of flights. Every time I get in. I'm just like, this is it? Yeah,
well, if you think when you're on a plane, think about some have a reality check. I'm thousands of meters above ground in a metal box. Especially Thank you
about this the other day, how high is the sky?
In all seriousness, before it gets to like space, the atmosphere.
So when do you When do you
decide of the Earth's atmosphere? If there is a there is a hot and so 30,000 feet? Is that that's way like planes normally hangar 3040. And so what is that in kilometers? Like how many kilometers?
You can do?
Siri, don't make it look bad.
How many kilometers in 30,000 feet? Quickly guess.
9.14 kilometers, Mr. 96. nearly
That's high 100 cases out of space.
Okay, hundred kilometers, and we only go up to nine.
It's because there's like less oxygen. It's it's really cold. And so you know, unless you're Wim Hof, you can go out there. And so anyway, the bath was four degrees. And I got in and like, you totally lose your breath. Like you just gasping for it likes fast, obviously. Yeah. So I just literally got these steps and I sort of got in and position myself down, and you hold your hands and your hands on your thighs. And so I was just gasping for air. But you can see you slowly start to sort of get control of your breath.
And if you're watching me
now, it's just me and Duncan, okay. The there was no classes on that point. And so we had the spice to ourselves. And it was a nice sunny morning is lovely. And so I thought I wasn't gonna get along and it got nearly four minutes he reckons which people on the really staying there for five or six or something. So it's like, why did
you do less than than everyone else?
Well, he told me a mutual friend of ours and they got to
so I was pretty pumped now that you don't care what the mutual friend did.
All right, can you do about a minute Derek
and I could do 20 I tell you
I'll tell you what happens you so I had like severe pain in my lower like, ankle area and my calf and he and he said after he said usually where there's pain it's like a sign that something you've had some issues there or something and I realized that it's because I fucking ran home from Collingwood doesn't kill the you know on concrete and so I had real tight calf muscles. It felt like my legs were cramping something shocking but it's kind of move through it and I was focusing my hand the warmth between my hands and my thighs is like feel so warm because you're you're you're known to sort of put your your classic dude your Put your hands new your pain I'm constantly it's like having a child
nothing like that I have to short on the you know no no I didn't put I had my just hold your size you're not really focusing on that because in so much
I think I could do way more than four minutes to be honest I don't think so.
mean we had Duncan would happily but like this is the thing right? I was saying I want to be down night who only got about two minutes and he's like Dude, you go talking it's like because
my ego talking saying I want to be but what happens is it's like he said that people legit cry when they get me not from the pain but because it just like strips away
this layer where you just you know this exterior layer that you might be hard for
like it's exactly what I need to be honest like cold showers. I like you're
not having cold showers are probably like 19 degrees. 18 degrees. They're not four degrees.
I don't know I'm very comfortable with the idea of like, You're not even moving. You're not running I know usually so
painful. Mr. 97 What do you think?
Like there's no chance you could last more than five minutes
10 minutes you start getting like hypothermia. Okay 45 minutes is a solid effort. Yeah,
and I reckon maybe close he said maybe before that I got so
you'd probably get three Josh all right in three minutes All right, you
guys such fuckin What is that called your limiting limiting beliefs All right, but
if you're if you're being guarantee right now over
over five minutes, or I can absolutely
I reckon if Tommy when Tommy
Tommy never heard that.
The reality is though, you you forget all this bullshit of like trying to do it for time. So they got to a point where I was focusing on my breathing five and five out and then it went, I was like, Can I talk now? And he's like, Yeah, I was I this is this is feeling good. Now like I I've got through that first initial period and he's like, he's like now when you start to feel and when you start to feel comfortable, lift your hands away from the size and lifting them away from the thighs and then I was like 30 seconds after that I was asked
So the aim of the game is you probably should just hold on to your thighs for longer
nobody there's no aim of the game The aim of the game is to be uncomfortable and so the aim of game is not to be in this you know in this space feeling really comfortable because it's about that sort of mental strength but the weird thing was though I got out and I was not cold so I like we had a thought like
with the CO I reckon when I've had cold Shannon was not comparing what you did with my 19 degrees your economic culture really is 19 degrees i
well i 16 i tested I tested my water because I was curious how did you test your water I just got a thermometer and held it underneath the show.
I mean winter time would be colder because the pops of color but there's not getting that like four is three before frozen. So like you were the phrase at one zero so you like take away three degrees and then one degree okay you so close to fuckin frozen
fact that I use like you were four degrees from Frozen
now I used to be very into the cold showers because the whole Tim Ferriss thing yes about like, the bent like for metabolism and stuff. Yeah, and so I would I just remember that was a good portion where I didn't change anything in my diet, but every time I would eat badly
but it feels like it's
a punishment for being a naughty boy eating the wrong things. That might work actually, but the weird thing was I didn't I wasn't shivering at all like I had a coffee earlier and then I had a cold glass of water and I was like starting to get really cold like my body was so cold the breathing before helps because you doing these 30 breaths in and out and so warmed up you call but man it was it was good. It felt so fucking Did you
feel like you could go for a run like we did you feel sort of nimble? We trained
out so we did a we did a big training session and did some nice movement and so I felt great in the afternoon. I was just fucking feeling so good. Yeah, it's it's it's like a form of meditation. Because it's like journal that you're battling against. Yeah,
I think I think we can do it will take
will get like Mr. 97. Wherever possible. It's just instant killed it. So it's perfect.
Okay, yeah. Good for like summer are these big crowds in summer I reckon.
Well, they have they, they've got it there and you can pay a membership. I can. It's like a spa or sauna, you can actually go and use it. So you can go each day. If you have this membership. You're going to learn the fundamentals first, but we could go and just give you some cash. And we'll do this ravers and say who can last? The problem is we would want to film it. And then that's where you start bringing your ego that because it's like
dramatic change when you get in the way. Yeah, and I wonder if had to change the water like they've never had so much how you go in the water that it's got a certain sort of smell to it. I actually got new shoes. I see.
Ya you benefit, ya know, you, you look. There was a guy. He was known at a shopping center called Southland he was known as the the running man or the walking man. We had one that in devil hills, and then the tanned slightly off like obviously, something's in qR, like,
quite right. Right? Yeah.
Like he was a lovely guy, but kept doing himself had had had these big old headphones on and we're just just walk. Just walk.
You know, I wasn't doing the daily talk show. I reckon that's what I'd be doing now. But they actually got me on a treadmill.
Oh, yeah. This gimmick. Yeah.
What do you mean gimmick?
Oh, they did. I remember when that came out. It was like, I had these. So be like a square. And you'd walk. And then you got me to run one step over the square on eight foot, step off. And it's like tracks where the pressure is, you know, falling off to the sides and stuff like that. So I don't know. I just felt like, maybe it's still here. That's why it wasn't the biggest gimmick, but it felt like when it came out. It's like, come in and test your foot Lucy way the way it is. But you felt like it was a
I think the thing is, they just gave me the shoes I used to have.
And how much did you pay?
To 30? I think to 30.
I mean that. Here's the problem. As a kid, I just grew up wanting to look cool with my footwear. Bad idea. It's not I mean, I've never had bad fate. So it's okay, but a lot of kids do that. And then they fucked their back because cool isn't comfortable. Always. And what I'm saying is calls out the window for you. Comfort Do they?
Are they kr nose or something? I think that's what they called. But these are two like I am what's even more uncool. I wanted to get the standard cantos. Yeah, but these are the two ways which is the wide thing and I said I might check the fault for the forays as well. But I refuse to
something. So the bigger your foot what size is your foot?
11 or 1211 and a half. I got them to like,
measure up one foot was half a shoe size bigger than the other.
It's always one boobs bigger than the other. One bowl hangs lower than the other. Am I right?
Ma? What sizes your foot 11 and a half of 12. Couple of Bigfoot around here 12 and a half. Yeah.
I just remember like always, we struggle finding shoes that a 12. Like that look cool. And so all the cool looking shoes, the more compact they are, the shoe looks cooler. So as you getting as it's like a pair of Converse look like clown shoes.
Well, I've decided this is going to be uniform. I'm going to every they say you get guess how many kilometers you can walk in a shoe for
300 k 393 hundred.
Think about it if the sky is 100 kilometers,
I reckon 400 kilometers of solid walking up and back to space. Twice. Yes. And what 1000 1000.
And so I worked out that if I do 10 kilometers a day. Yeah. Which is my plan. Yeah, I'll get 100 days.
That's only just over three months, you'll get more than 100 days to fall apart. They cost 290 bucks. 30 I think
230 I think, but I did say I said to Bray, I want to just get them on order because it's like shoes, or the same way that I treat my hair. Where it's like as soon as I get my hair cut. I like to have this passion for I'm going to become a hair cut guy. I'm going to be the six weeks sort of Dude, I even did. We spoke about it on an earlier episode. But I actually did a review on a on my head dresses.
Where I said, basically, this is like the best experience I've ever had. I'm net like, I never used to go to the hairdresser. Now I'm going to go every six weeks. Yeah. And it must have been like 12 weeks, I realized I couldn't
Because I look like a liar. You don't need to be just gonna, like you
don't need to be a thing. But do you like the idea of me every four months?
No, no, I don't know. I think you could just be you and this is the talking about being
read and you will feel better.
a guy you want to construct this being Don't you know what I mean? Like, you don't have to be a regimented six week hair cut guy. There's not like that.
doesn't make you this, you know, fucking person. You know, like, you can just get a haircut when you need you can buy new shoes when you need. It doesn't have to be every four months, you know it will end up happening. You have seven pages of Kiana or whatever they called in the cupboard, and you're still rocking the first pair because they they sold you on this thousand kilometer thing but you get into K to 2000 kilometers out of them.
I reckon 1000 sounds right though, because I always feel like I over wear my shoes. But I'd been wearing Nike shoes and stuff and just hurting myself. Yes, I like
I mean, I've been the recipient of a lot of your shoes. Yes.
You were on top of mine now. Oh no.
But I kept my eye on a couple of your shoes.
Trying to you're trying to get my clothes
my son's foot very close. He's He's lost. I'll take your old birds.
He knows the name. Yeah, the only words
well the old birds are an old wall shoe I don't want those and they were there actually yeah they made in New Zealand
for a guy that was no no name brand.
Would you spend how much on your $7
yet Mr. White once these are like $37 shoes from busy
fucking slave labor. That's why
it's called boohoo because all the kids are crying.
It's not good.
Married the lady guys. Yeah,
the name Yeah.
You're tired. Keep working. boohoo. That's really bad. cyan talked about like how fucked up was like 2 million kids working on farms.
I mean, editors are known for being more ethical than most brands are. really well. These are assets I'm wearing. I'm wearing like a Topshop or like a Topshop. I think
so. I don't know. It was pretty fucked up.
All the we're having someone on tomorrow on the show who has a brand has a clothing label
made in Melbourne? Maybe Melbourne. Each pig? Yeah,
so it's getting away from all of that stuff.
of just that disconnected link between where it's mine wearing it.
I would like to know more about that stuff like so back on to the old birds. Yeah. You couldn't get them in Australia. So I got it set up. This was one of my dumb elaborate things where I like I saw the video. I'm like, I need the shoes. And then I messaged them I said hey, can I get them in Australia? And they said oh no, we don't ship so we'll see about that. And so I set up like a in Phoenix Arizona I had my own like a pricey addressing it's actually really cool because they send you like you get an address. Yeah, like Phoenix, Arizona. And when it gets scanned in
Yeah, they take photos of the box or that's good right?
So I get an email being like all my boxes arrived Not only that, but then I paid an extra $5 and they open the box and show me the shoes. Can I
just ask how much are you paying the dress?
You still paying for the dress? No No but I still have the address but please don't tell Are you paying for it on a script subscription?
No actually just ready to do that was to get up we're gonna
pay our box rather I mean we can use people who are listening to show maybe we can send you our
stuff and then this a minimalist he's not kidding I think said surely wait
so there was a great pair a great company called Tom's
where they give so the idea there one of the first people to or brands to you do one for one
yeah. And it's really it's really annoying when brands that do good
at the same name as you
that too so yeah, number one but also as a bowtie we've bought a lot of Toms Amy's bought a lot of TOMS shoes for him but they well priced yeah they're not they're not bad not bad they price for kids shoes especially. But
what is the kids just quickly kid shoe problem
and you can pay up to fucking $80 really for leasehold shoot. That's like a that's when the going in you getting the full treatment the K you know what it is no boo boo. Yeah, and But anyway, I think they're like 2530 bucks. But I've said to me no more Tom's you've done with it Tom they get
one quickly. They just fall off. We don't
even walking thing with baby shoes is like you just need things that are going to stay on. Yeah, because they're just little mad men trying to rip them off. If you if they find a little you know, get the healing out. And so I've said no more Tom's could
almost create like if we were to invent something like one of those. It was very popular for a while in the 90s I had or the early 2000, the noughties.
Long socks or basketball, long socks so popular. I used to wear that it actually serves two purposes because I used to get this funny like, um, what's it called? Like a vein or whatever that would hurt or varicose veins. It wasn't even a varicose vein. But that's I know, but i think i think i think Eric is mine. I think of like my next or something. Yeah. But I think it was a varicose vein. But I used to under my socks where I'm pressure. So like these stockings or whatever. compression. Thank you. Yeah, but no, my point was that maybe we could design a shoe. That's actually a big sock as well. So that he can only take it up from the top you wouldn't know how to you know what I mean?
It looks stupid that he would do? Absolutely.
But you wouldn't know how about just
by shoe that actually is taught
at any given
show? Yeah, yeah,
but are you buying them too big to save on it cash? Yeah.
you buy them slightly be no shoes going to last till 10? You buy him slightly bigger. But somehow these things it was just worn apart? They go hard. He's putting more time on his feet in the newer.
What do you mean?
He's on his feet more than you are? I don't think so. He's really took it as a bullshit. Wrong. Your two year old is definitely not working and that I am.
That's exactly what I'm thinking. That's what you're in.
me last week. I miss walking.
I do. But still I fucking walk here. He's not walking a kilometer a day. What do you
need? Okay, today?
Definitely. What was the school shoe situation when you were growing up? I so,
primary school, whatever I just wore. can't really remember. But then as I got into high school, you then had to go strict. Like you had a private school. It was like black shirts. We fucking found a loophole.
Was it the globe leather.
Now we found even better loophole in that cooler loophole than that
globe was a cobra.
Not compared to Nike. Nike was much cooler the globe globe was calling yesterday. Maybe you're a bit younger than me so maybe it was still a thing but school like blue suede sort of globe shoes. Yeah.
There was some really good white ones that were fun but do weird things with the shoe laces. Yeah, yeah, that was it.
But that was so then into high school that you were lose at that point if you still did that. So you weren't you were like when I was in high school. You were still in? nappies. You don't that? Yeah. But I we found these Nike shoes that were like, Cool. Cool looking Nike. They were all black and leather. And so me my mates. We all got them. And they'll just like they couldn't say anything we like, got ya
taken care of.
Craig Craig Bruce spoke at us on his podcast games. Yes.
It's good bit of fun. Yeah, thank you, Bruce. Craig, Bruce. If you don't know who is in Australia, he was.
He was he was in charge of assigning some of the best radio people to their positions. And he helped Jules Lang get his job. A mission nd I think he helped get
massively carlon jack was involved in that. Yeah, like the big names in Australian radio. He was like the content talent. Yeah, mind behind helping that happen. 100%. And
when I was sort of, in radio, mainstream radio, I was he was the guy that you'd hope to have a combo with. He's the dude that you would try and say hi. So if you went to some radio conference, yeah. And you'd be like, Craig high.
And you'd send radio demos to him and you'd hope that he would say you told me the next Hamish black.
Anyway, we were on game changes his podcast. Yes. Have a listen to that. And Nick in a couple of weeks time we're going to have him on the show as well. Yeah,
that's fun. Yeah, that's gonna be fun. So he's podcast is all about sort of the radio industry and audio and content creation. So if you if you want to hear Cavalia gronk speaking to Craig
Have a listen. Yeah, it was before the the ice bath so your ego was still intact. It was mine. Mine still is the dad I talked to everyone said his name. Oh, hi, the daily talk show.com
Who do you think would get the longest in the ice but ice bath
nice in your app.
Guys in tech guys, catch tomorrow. See you guys