Tommy's Lost His Ego

Josh: The Daily Talk Show episode 200—

Tommy: 300.

Josh: And see, this is the problem because we're rushed. Yeah, uh, we've got a meeting in half an hour.

Tommy: 320.

Josh: 320.

Tommy: Oh yeah, what's happening, boys? Happy Monday.

Josh: Um, yeah, what's, what's happening?

Tommy: It's all happening, it's all happening for Monday. I feel good. It was a big week last week and, um, I feel, uh, rested and rejuvenated.

Josh: Yeah, I was exhausted by Friday. I was fucked.

Tommy: Yeah, we did, we had 4 guests on the show last week, so we thought Monday we just need to have a bit of me time. Yeah, a bit of me and you time.

Josh: Did you end up doing that ice thing that you were going to do on Saturday?

Mason: Oh yeah.

Josh: So what did it involve? It involved like you entering into a fridge basically.

Tommy: So the Wim Hof method, which is— he made this famous. He made getting just people getting into ice-cold water famous, but it's for the benefit of the individual who gets into it. So I did it. My friend, I bumped into him a couple of weeks ago, Duncan, owns a business called Fifth Direction, and I saw this, I saw this pop-up that, like you said, they've literally got a freezer, like a fridge-looking thing tipped it on its side and built a box around it and it's filled with water. It's a bit more technical than that, but that's what it looks like.

Josh: Sure.

Tommy: So it's like sealed and the water just is in there all the time and it's always at a cool 4 or 3 or 2 degrees.

Josh: Is it over— because there's the, um, those chambers you can go in that are like float tanks.

Tommy: Yes. So no, it's not that. This is different. This is literally like just a big body of water that you get into and it's freezing cold. So he invited me to do one, um, and I went down over the weekend And I was a bit fucking— it was almost like I didn't want— like, you know, you know the uncomfortable moment is ahead and you're like, I just, I would rather not.

Josh: How big is it? Like, can you—

Tommy: I'll show you a photo and I haven't put one up or anything, but maybe I can put it on the gram, put it on the—

Josh: so you have the whole way. So it's probably what, 6, 6 and 6 foot maybe? Because you're not completely flat, you wouldn't want to be flat because you're down to water.

Tommy: It's a big sized fridge. Think about your fridge at home, it's about like a big one, big family size.

Josh: Is it actually a fridge?

Mason: No, it's legit freezer.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: And so they just have the water in there and there's this temperature gauge in there. So it was 4 degrees and we did this. What's interesting is a lot of these people who are doing, running these ice bath sessions are removing the word Wim Hof from it because he's charging. It's like, it's like a Sydney Opera House, can't mention them in the advertising as Charlie mentioned. Yeah, because they're taking a bit of money from it.

Josh: So like the Olympics.

Tommy: Yeah, so a lot of these businesses are removing Wim's name from it, but it's still that sort of method. So we did a bunch of breathing before.

Josh: What do they call— do they change the name?

Mason: Is it—

Tommy: no, we just— no, not when it's like— it's more on advertising. Okay, it's like, no, this is still the Wim Hof method. Um, but supposedly Wim's not actually in charge of it at all, so it's like it's become that big. Yeah, it's like some governing body for the Wim Hof.

Josh: Interesting.

Tommy: Method or whatever. And so we did this breathing stuff and my face was tingling, my arms. It's amazing, it's really cool. So you're like, you're pretty amped to go in, and by the time I got to the bath, I was like, I actually feel pretty disconnected from what's about to happen. Like that feeling from before when I was like, I can't be bothered going because I'm gonna feel— it's gonna be really uncomfortable. It's like I'd kind of disconnected from what I was about to experience.

Josh: It's like when I go on a plane I think that I actually have quite a fear of flights. Every time I get in, I'm just like, this is it.

Tommy: Yeah, well, if you think when you're on a plane, think about it, just do some— have a reality check. I'm thousands of metres above ground in a metal box.

Josh: I was literally thinking about this the other day. How high is the sky, in all seriousness, before it gets to like space?

Tommy: The atmosphere. So when do you When do you go outside of the Earth's atmosphere? There is a, there is a, there is a height.

Josh: And so 30,000 feet, is that, that's where like planes normally hang out?

Tommy: Yeah, 30, 40.

Josh: And so what is that in kilometers? Like how many kilometres are we? I don't know, you can do this. Hey Siri, don't make it look bad. How many kilometres in 30,000 feet? Quickly guess. 9.14 kilometers.

Tommy: Mr. 97 nearly got it.

Josh: That's high.

Mason: 100K is the start of space.

Josh: Okay, 100 kilometers, and we only go up to 9.

Tommy: It's because there's like less oxygen, it gets really cold, and so, you know, unless you're Wim Hof, you can't go up there. And so, so anyway, the bath was 4 degrees, and I got in and like you totally lose your breath, like you're just gasping for air.

Josh: Legs first, obviously.

Tommy: Yeah, so I just literally go up these steps and I sort of got in and positioned myself down. And you hold your hands on your, your hands on your thighs. And so I was just gasping for air, but you can, you slowly start to sort of get control of your breath.

Josh: Are people watching you?

Tommy: No, it's just me and Duncan.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Um, there was no classes on at that point, and so we had the space to ourselves, and it was a nice sunny morning. It was lovely. And so I thought I wasn't gonna get that long and it got nearly 4 minutes, he reckons, which people only really stay in there for 5 or 6 or something. So it's like—

Josh: Why did you do less than everyone else?

Tommy: Well, he told me a mutual friend of ours only got 2. So I was pretty pumped.

Josh: No, but you, I didn't care what the mutual friend did.

Tommy: I reckon you'd do about a minute, dude.

Josh: I reckon I could do 20 minutes.

Tommy: I tell you what happens. I tell you what happens. You— so I had like severe pain in my lower like ankle area and my calf. And he said after, he said usually where there's pain it's like a sign that something— you've had some issues there or something. And I realised it's because I fucking ran home from Collingwood to St Kilda, you know, on concrete. And so I had real tight calf muscles. It felt like my legs were cramping, something shocking, but it kind of moved through it. And I was focusing my hands— the warmth between my hands and my thighs is like, feels so warm.

Josh: Because you're, you've, you're known to sort of put your— you're a classic dude, you'll put your hands near your pain. I'm constantly— it's like having a child.

Tommy: Yeah, I like to keep warm, but there's nothing like that.

Josh: I had— did you have— did you put them near you?

Tommy: No, no, no, I didn't put them there. I had my— I just hold your thighs. You're not really focusing on much because you're in so much pain.

Josh: I think I could do way more than 4 minutes, to be honest.

Tommy: I don't think so. I mean, Duncan would happily, but like, this is the thing, right? I was saying, I wanna beat our mate who only got about 2 minutes. And he's like, dude, it's ego talking. It's like, because—

Josh: Whose ego?

Tommy: My ego talking, saying I wanna beat. But what happens is it's like, he said that people legit cry when they get in there, not from the pain, but because it just like strips away this layer where you just, you know, this exterior layer that you might be holding.

Josh: I feel like it's exactly what I need, to be honest. Like, cold showers, I like.

Tommy: You're not having— cold showers are probably like 19 degrees, 18 degrees. They're not 4 degrees.

Josh: I don't know, I'm very comfortable with the idea of like, you're not even moving, you're not running.

Tommy: I know, it is so painful. Mr. 97, what do you think?

Mason: Mate, there's no chance you could last more than 5 minutes.

Tommy: No chance.

Mason: 10 minutes, you start getting like hypothermia. Okay, 4 minutes, 5 minutes is a solid effort.

Tommy: Yeah, and I reckon maybe close. He said maybe 4. Yeah, that I got.

Mason: So you'd probably get 3, Josh. I reckon 3 minutes.

Tommy: I reckon 3.

Josh: So you guys are such fucking— what is that called? You're limiting beliefs.

Tommy: All right, but if you're being gung-ho right now, Over 5 minutes, I reckon.

Josh: Absolutely. So I had so many—

Mason: Hop in there, your ego.

Josh: I had so many.

Tommy: That's it.

Josh: Yes, I reckon if Tommy— when Tommy went in the water, you'd hear the thud. What's that? That's Tommy's ego. Never heard a thud like that before.

Tommy: The reality is though, you, you forget all this bullshit of like trying to do it for time. So they got to a point where I was focusing on my breathing, 5 in, 5 out, and then it went. I was like, can I talk now? And he's like, yeah. I was like, this is, this is feeling good now. Like, I, I've got through that first initial period. And he's like, he's like, now when you start to feel, when you start to feel comfortable, lift your hands away from your thighs. I lifted them away from the thighs, and then I was like, fucking 30 seconds after that, I was out.

Josh: Oh, so the aim of the game is you probably should just hold on to your thighs for longer?

Tommy: No, but there's no aim of the game. The aim of the game is to be uncomfortable. And so the aim of game is not to be in this you know, in this space feeling really comfortable because it's about that sort of mental strength. The weird thing was though, I got out and I was not cold. So I like, we had a coffee pot, like it was a cold—

Josh: I reckon when I've had cold showers, not comparing what you did with my 19 degrees, did you reckon a cold shower really is 19 degrees?

Mason: Well, it's 16. I tested, I tested my water because I was curious as well.

Josh: How did you test your water?

Mason: I just got a thermometer and held it underneath the shower.

Josh: I don't know how cool that is.

Tommy: I mean, wintertime would be colder because the pipes are colder, but it's not getting that like Like 4 is 3 before frozen. So like you were—

Josh: Do you freeze at 1?

Tommy: 0. So you like take away 3 degrees and then—

Josh: You get 1 degree.

Mason: Okay.

Tommy: You're so close to fucking frozen.

Josh: I don't understand why he said freeze.

Tommy: I don't know, fuck that. But anyway, you're like, you were 4 degrees from frozen.

Josh: Now I used to be very into the cold showers because the whole Tim Ferriss thing talks about like the bent— like for metabolism and stuff. Yeah. And so I would— I just remember there was a good portion where I didn't change anything in my diet, but every time I would eat badly, I would go have a cold shower.

Tommy: That wouldn't do shit. But it feels like it's a punishment for being a naughty boy, eating the wrong thing. That might work actually.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: But the weird thing was I didn't— I wasn't shivering at all. Like, I had a coffee earlier and then I had a cold glass of water and I was like starting to get really cold. Like my body was so cold. The breathing before helps because you're doing these 30 breaths in and out, and so it warms up your core. But man, it was, it was good. It felt so fucking good.

Josh: Did you feel like you could go for a run? Like, did you feel sort of nimble?

Tommy: We trained after, so we did a, we did a big training session and did some nice movement, and so I felt great in the afternoon. I was just fucking feeling so good.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: It's like a form of meditation because it's like all internal that you're battling against.

Josh: Yeah, I think I would do that.

Tommy: We could do it. We'll take, we'll get every, like Mr. 97, you and I.

Josh: Where about, what suburb?

Tommy: It's just in St. Kilda, so it's perfect.

Josh: Okay, yeah, good for like summer or do you, big crowds in summer, I reckon.

Tommy: Well, they have, they've got it there and you can pay a membership and it's like a spa or sauna. You can actually go and use it. So you could go each day if you have this membership. You gotta learn the fundamentals first, but we could go and just give him some cash and we'll, um, do the three of us and see who can last. The problem is we would want to film it, and then that's where you start bringing your ego, because it's like, do you reckon that's a change when you get in the water? Yeah, no, good one.

Josh: I wonder if they had to change the water, like they've never had so much ego in the water. They had to— it's got a certain sort of smell to it. I actually, um, uh, got new shoes, Asics.

Tommy: Oh yeah. Yeah, we've gone through beds.

Josh: Comfort.

Tommy: Yeah, I know. You, you look— there was a guy, he was known at a shopping centre called Southland. He was known as the, uh, the, the running man or the walking man. We had one at Endeavour Hills and then super tanned, slight, slightly off, like obviously something's in QR, like that's quite right, not quite right. Yeah, like he was a lovely guy but kept to himself, um, had, had these big old old headphones on and would just, just walk, just walk.

Josh: If I wasn't doing the Daily Talk Show, I reckon that's what I'd be doing. No, but they actually got me on a treadmill.

Tommy: Oh yeah, this gimmick.

Josh: Yeah, what do you mean gimmick?

Tommy: Oh, they did. I remember when that came out, it was like they had these— so it'd be like a square and you'd walk and then you'd— they got me to run one step over the square on each foot and then step off and it's like tracks where the pressure is, you know, falling off to the sides and stuff like that. So I don't know, I just felt like maybe it's still here, that's why it wasn't the biggest gimmick. But it felt like when it came out, it's like, come in, test your foot, we'll see where the weight is. But you felt like it was a—

Josh: I think like the thing is they just gave me the shoes I used to have.

Tommy: And how much did you pay?

Josh: Uh, $230, I think.

Tommy: $230. I mean, the Here's the problem. As a kid, I just grew up wanting to look cool with my footwear.

Josh: Bad idea.

Tommy: It's not. I mean, I've never had bad feet, so it's okay, but a lot of kids do that and then they fuck their back because cool isn't comfortable always. And what I'm saying is cool's out the window for you, comfort's in.

Josh: Are they Kayanos or something? I think that's what they're called. But these are two— like, I, um, what's even more uncool I wanted to get the standard Keyanos. Yeah, but these are the 2Es, which are the wide feet, and they said, oh, I might cheque the 4 for the 4Es as well, but I refuse to wear 4Es.

Tommy: There's something— so the bigger your foot— what size is your foot?

Josh: 11 or 12? 11 and a half. I got them to like, uh, measure up. One foot was half a shoe size bigger than the other.

Tommy: It's always the case. One boob's bigger than the other. One ball hangs lower than the other. Am I right? I don't know. Mr. 97, what size is your foot?

Mason: Uh, 11.5 or 12.

Tommy: Yeah, a couple of big foot fellas around here. 12.5.

Josh: Yeah. Okay.

Tommy: Um, so I just remember like always you struggle finding shoes that are 12, like that look cool. And so all the cool looking shoes, the more compact they are, the shoe looks cooler. So as you're getting out, it's just like a pair of Converse look like clown shoes.

Josh: Well, I've just decided this is going to be uniform.

Tommy: That's okay.

Josh: I'm going to every— they say you get— guess how many kilometres you can walk in a shoe before you need new ones?

Tommy: Like 300k? 3— no, 300.

Josh: Um, think about it. If the sky is 100 kilometers, I reckon 400 kilometres of solid walking up and back to space twice.

Tommy: Yes. And what is it, 1,000? 1,000.

Josh: Okay. And so I worked out that if I do 10 kilometres a day, yeah, which is my plan, yeah, I'll get 100 days. That's only just over 3 months.

Tommy: You'll get more than 100 days because I said to fall apart and they cost $280.

Josh: $230, I think.

Tommy: $230, I think.

Josh: Yeah, but I did say, I said to Bree, I want to, um, just get them on order. Because it's like, shoes are the same way that I treat my hair, where it's like, as soon as I get my hair cut, I like have this passion for— I'm going to become a haircut guy, I'm going to be the 6 weeks sort of dude. I even did— we spoke about it on an early episode, but I actually did a review on a, um, on my hairdresser's Facebook. Yeah, where I said Basically, um, this is like the best experience I've ever had. I'm now like, I never used to go to the hairdresser, now I'm gonna go every 6 weeks.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: And it must have been like 12 weeks and I realised I couldn't go back because I look like a liar.

Tommy: You don't need to be, you just gotta like, you don't need to be a thing.

Josh: But do you like the idea of me every 4 months just getting the new, the same shoes?

Tommy: No, no, I don't need— I think you could just be you and This is the ice talking.

Josh: Look at it, just, it's all about being. It's all about breathing. You just need to breathe and your feet will feel better. Just need to breathe.

Tommy: You really want to construct this being. Don't you know what I mean? Like, you don't have to be a regimented 6-week haircut guy. There's not like—

Josh: Can we crop Mason for Instagram? This is the Instagram bit. Keep going.

Tommy: It doesn't make you this, you know, fucking person. Like, you can just get a haircut when you need, you can buy new shoes when you need them. It doesn't have to be every 4 months. You know what will end up happening? You have 7 pairs of fucking Keanos or whatever they're called in the cupboard and you're still rocking the first pair because they sold you on this 1,000-kilometer thing, but you're getting 2,000 kilometres out of them.

Josh: I reckon 1,000 sounds right though because I always feel like I overwear my shoes. But I'd been wearing Nikes and stuff and just hurting myself.

Tommy: I'm just like, I mean, I've been the recipient of a lot of your shoes because you wear them twice.

Josh: Mine now, or no, no, no, no, not these ones.

Tommy: But I, I've kept my eye on a couple of your shoes.

Josh: You're trying to, you're trying to get my clothes.

Tommy: Problem is Mason's foot's very close, so he's, he's like, I'll take your Allbirds.

Josh: Oh yeah, you can have—

Tommy: fuck, he even knows the name of them.

Josh: Yeah, the Allbirds. Well, the Allbirds are an all-wool shoe.

Tommy: I don't want those.

Josh: And they were— they're actually— yeah, they're made in New Zealand.

Tommy: Sure, mate, for a guy that wears no-name brand.

Josh: Well, you spend how much on yours? $7?

Mason: Yeah, they're my white ones. These are like $30.

Tommy: Okay, far out, big spender.

Josh: Where do you get $7 shoes from?

Tommy: Uh, Boohoo. Yeah, fucking slave labour camp, that's where.

Josh: Yeah, it's called Boohoo because all the kids are crying while they're making It's not good at all. So fucked up. But they bury the lead, guys.

Tommy: Take it out of the name.

Josh: Yeah. Oh, boohoo, you're tired? Keep working. Boohoo. No, it's really bad. Cyan talked about like how fucked up the— was like 2 million kids working on farms.

Tommy: I mean, Adidas are known for being more ethical than most brands.

Josh: Oh really? Well, these are ASICS.

Tommy: I'm wearing, um, I'm wearing like a Topshop or like a Yeah, Topshop, I think. So I don't know, it was pretty fucked up.

Josh: All the—

Tommy: we're having someone on tomorrow on the show who has a brand, has a clothing label made in Melbourne. Made in Melbourne, Itch Pig. Yeah, so it's getting away from all of that stuff, um, of just that disconnected link between where it's made and wearing it.

Josh: I would like to know more about that stuff. Like, so back onto the Allbirds. Yeah, um, you couldn't get them in Australia, so I got set up— this was one of my dumb elaborate things where I like, I saw the video, I'm like, I need these shoes. And then I messaged them, I said, hey, can I get them in Australia? And they said, oh no, we don't ship. I said, we'll see about that. And so I set up like a, in Phoenix, Arizona, I had a mail, like a proxy addressing. It's actually really cool because they send you like, you get an address, it's like Phoenix, Arizona, and when it gets scanned in Yeah, they take photos of the box. Oh, that's good, right? So I get an email being like, oh, my box has arrived. Not only that, but then I paid an extra $5 and they open the box and show me the shoes.

Tommy: Can I just ask, how much were you paying for the address? Are you still paying for the address?

Josh: No, no, but I still have the address.

Tommy: But please don't tell me you're paying for it on a subscription.

Josh: No, I actually just redid it. We've still got— we've got a PO box or another.

Tommy: I mean, we can use, um, people who are listening to the show, maybe their address. We could send him stuff. We can send him stuff.

Josh: And then he's a minimalist, he's not getting anything sent. Surely we can.

Tommy: So there is a great pair, a great company called TOMS where they give.

Josh: So the idea, they're one of the first people to, or brands to do one for one.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And it's really annoying when brands that do good have the same name as you?

Tommy: That too. So yeah, number one. But also, so Bodhi, we've bought a lot of Toms. Amy's bought a lot of Toms shoes for him.

Josh: Are they well priced?

Tommy: Yeah, they're not, they're not bad, not badly priced, um, for kids' shoes especially.

Josh: But what is a kid's— just quickly, kid's shoe price, man?

Tommy: You can pay up to fucking $80 for a little shoe. That's like a— that's when you're going in, you're getting the foot treatment, The Cayenne or whatever.

Josh: Snow Boo Hoo.

Tommy: Yeah, and but anyway, I think they're like $25, $30, but I've said to Amy, no more Toms, you're done.

Josh: They get worn quickly, they just fall off. He's not even walking that much.

Tommy: The thing with baby shoes is like you just need things that are going to stay on. Yeah, because they're just little madmen trying to rip them off.

Josh: If you—

Tommy: if they find a little, you know, get the heel, they just out. And so I've said no more times.

Josh: Could almost create, like, if we were to invent something like one of those— it was very popular for a while in the '90s. I had a— or the early 2000s, the noughties, um, long socks for basketball. Remember the long socks?

Tommy: They were popular.

Josh: I used to wear that. It actually served two purposes because I used to get this funny, like, um, what's it called, like a vein or whatever that would hurt.

Tommy: Oh, varicose vein.

Josh: Yeah, well, it wasn't even a varicose vein, but that's I know, but I don't think varicose vein. I think, I think of varicose vein, I think of like my nana or something. Yeah, but I don't think it was a varicose vein, but I used to under my socks wear, um, pressure, so like these like stockings or whatever.

Tommy: Compression.

Josh: Compression, thank you. But, um, no, my point was that maybe we could design a shoe that's actually a big sock as well so that he can only take it up from the top. He wouldn't know how to, you know what I mean?

Tommy: He'd look stupid though. He would look absolutely—

Josh: No, but you wouldn't know.

Tommy: How about just buy a shoe that actually is tight? Well, they're out there.

Josh: Isn't that a given?

Tommy: Shouldn't that have happened? Yeah, yeah.

Josh: So you're buying them too big to save on cash because then he's got until he's 10?

Tommy: You buy them slightly— but you know shoe's going to last till 10. You buy them slightly bigger, but somehow these things have just worn apart. They go hard. He's putting more time on his feet in than you are.

Josh: What do you mean?

Tommy: I'm just saying he's on his feet more than you are.

Josh: I don't think so.

Tommy: He really took it as a bullshit. I'm gonna fucking prove him wrong. Your 2-year-old is definitely not putting the footwork in that I am.

Josh: Well, that's exactly what I'm thinking, but that's what you're implying.

Tommy: You said to me last week, I miss walking.

Josh: I do, but still, I fucking walk here. He's not walking a kilometre a day, would he?

Tommy: I reckon he'd do a K a day, definitely.

Josh: What was the school shoe situation when you were growing up?

Tommy: Um, I— so primary school, whatever, I just wore— I can't really remember. But then as I got into high school, you then had to go strict, like at a private school it was like black shoes. We fucking found a loophole.

Josh: Was it the Globe leather?

Tommy: No, no, we found an even better loophole than that. Cooler loophole than that.

Josh: Globe was a cool brand.

Tommy: Nah, not compared to Nike. Nike was much cooler than Globe. Globe was cool in skateboarding. Maybe you're a bit younger than me, so maybe it was still a thing, but school, like those blue suede sort of globe shoes. Yeah, they had white, there was some really good white ones that were fun, but do weird things with the shoelaces. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was, but that was, so then into high school that you were a loser at that point if you still did that. So you weren't, but you were like, when I was in high school you were still in nappies. You're not that younger, but I, we found these Nike shoes that were like cool, cool-looking Nikes that were all black and leather. And so me and my mates, we all got them, and they were just like— they couldn't say anything. We're like, I got you, got you. Technicality. Is that how you say it? Black leather. Fucking hell.

Josh: Um, Craig Bruce spoke— uh, had us on his podcast, Game Changers.

Tommy: Yeah, it's a good bit of fun. Yeah, thank you, Bruce. Um, Craig Bruce, um, if you don't know who he is In Australia, he was, um, he was, he was in charge of assigning some of the best radio people to their positions. He helped Jules Lund get his job, Hamish and Andy, is that fair?

Josh: I think he helped get, uh, Matt Tilley, Carl and Jack, was he involved in that? Yeah, like the big names in Australian radio. He was like the content talent, yeah, mind behind helping that happen.

Tommy: Oh, 100%. And when I was sort of in radio, mainstream radio. I would— he was the guy that you'd hope to have a convo with. He's the dude that you'd try and say hi to if you went to some radio conference.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And you'd be like, Craig, uh, hi. And you'd send radio demos to him and you'd hope that he would say, you, Tommy, are the next Hamish Blake.

Josh: He never said that. Anyway, we were on Game Changers, his podcast. So have a listen to that. And Nick, in a couple of weeks' time, we're going to have him on the show as well.

Tommy: Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, that's going to be fun. So his podcast is all about sort of the radio industry and audio and content creation. So if you, um, if you want to hear a couple of Gronks speaking to Craig, have a listen.

Josh: Yeah, it was before the ice bath, so your ego was still nicely intact then, and so was mine, and mine still is. It's The Daily Talk Show, everyone. Send us an email, hi@thedailytalkshow.com.

Tommy: Who do you think would get the longest in the ice bath?

Josh: Mason, you're out.

Tommy: You're out, mate. You're fucking out.

Josh: His ego's intact, guys. Daily Talk Show, catch you tomorrow. See you guys.