Stolen Property

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 279.

Tommy: Fat Fridays. Yeah, another one. Yeehaw, yeehaw, mate. I don't give a shit if it's yeehaw, yeehaw.

Josh: Got a bit of Nando's. Yeehaw, Nando's.

Tommy: We've gone a bit mad. We haven't eaten yet and we've got, we've got a shitload of Nando's here. So I'm just going to rip this open.

Josh: Yeah, all right. Uh, thank you. Do we get one big chips each?

Tommy: We can get a big chips each. Big Here we go. This is a lot of chips, a lot of chips here. Just pouring these out. Uh, Mr. Knight, that's yours.

Josh: Is that gonna—

Tommy: yep.

Josh: Oh geez, is that how they— so I, I got the, um, the pita. They do like this halloumi pita type of thing.

Tommy: Here we go. I'll do the same.

Josh: Hang on. Okay. Do we have to worry about the table getting greased up?

Tommy: Yeah, it's all good. So I ruined— so I had these tables in our office Well, you worry if they go off the paper because that's why I put the paper out. Um, anyway, we've got about $20 worth of chips right in front of us from, uh, Nando's. Oh, Mr. 97, we've got, um, peri-peri salt over there. Bring that over.

Josh: Let's give 97 his— we got you a classic wrap. 97, I don't know which one's got— one's a BLT sort of scenario. Uh, Nando's, for people who are outside of it— oh geez, right— people who are outside of Australia or South Africa or the UK.

Tommy: Yes.

Josh: How would you describe Nando's?

Tommy: Oh, it's— I was gonna say like your charcoal chicken joint that you love and you've been going to since a kid, but it's much, much better. Well, it's like a, it's like a, um Africa— South African-inspired chicken. It's like chilli and yeah, real good flavors, real good. I don't know how— I used to date a girl who was my, like, my first girlfriend, um, as an adult. Yeah, she used to work at Nando's, and all I remember is picking her up from work and just being like, you stink. If you work in any kitchen doing anything anywhere, I don't care, even if you worked at a vegan restaurant, I'm sure you'd come out of that kitchen smelling like— smelling like something, smelling like something. But I think, you know, these places, they have specific smells about them. Subway have a smell about them.

Josh: Subway definitely has a smell about them.

Tommy: My problem with Subway is what it— what your fingers smell like after Subway.

Josh: What does your fingers smell like after Subway?

Tommy: They smell like Subway. Yeah, I reckon it's the bread. I reckon it's like what is in— they must use this, I reckon it must be like fake smell that gets people like us talking about this shit.

Josh: Yeah, well, I had the, um, I have that issue with grilled feel like I've got grilled fingers sometimes. Yeah, but, um, what's your normal go-to order at Nando's? Has it evolved over the years?

Tommy: No, it's my fast food, uh, eating habits are purely based around whether I'm wanting to be healthy or not, or if you're hungover, or if— oh yeah, hungover, whether I'm in like a want to get ripped or I'm training really hard. I don't know what day you catch me. Is, is what will happen. But the one thing about Nando's is they've got these sauces, and this is not an ad, by the way. This is not an ad. We've got— they've got these sauces.

Josh: We haven't officially paid for this.

Tommy: We definitely haven't officially paid for this.

Josh: Yeah, this was a, uh, Nando's is a disclaimer. Nando's is a client of ours and they've hooked us up.

Tommy: Well, we did something nice for them. They—

Josh: it's not even— it wasn't even for the podcast, but we're just like, we're gonna, we're gonna do it anyway.

Tommy: Drop most of the money on, uh, food here.

Josh: Well, you wanted to spend $100 and we got to $50 and I'm like, you know what, bro, just maybe you can have some for another night.

Tommy: Catch. Um, I just threw a chip to Mr. 97. Uh, so the sauce at Nando's, when I was a kid, it's been around for as long as I can remember, but there was always one of my mates who had one of the sauces at his house. Like, you can buy the sauce now, but these went missing because there was some gronk behaviour of putting one down your pants and walking out.

Josh: As in, so because you could just buy them off the shelf?

Tommy: Do you reckon it's the same?

Josh: Or no, he'd taken it? No, I knew someone who stole them.

Tommy: That's my point. He put them— you don't just put them down your pants if you just bought them.

Josh: He took them from, from the restaurant your friends were taking them from your mate's place. Okay, that's dodgy. They're fucking big bottles.

Tommy: Big bottles.

Josh: The, um, the one thing I do wonder is whether the recipes are the same when you get something at home. So this peri peri salt, it looks like slightly different color. Do you reckon it's less bright orange?

Tommy: I don't know, I can't tell, mate. It all looks very similar.

Josh: I guess so.

Tommy: It's the same. I know this is peri peri salt, it's lovely.

Josh: I watched a video yesterday or 2 days ago. I guess we could be asking the question, is all of this really boring for people?

Tommy: And the answer is most likely yes.

Josh: No, but I did watch it.

Tommy: Eric, shout out to Eric. I know you've been enjoying this, homeboy.

Josh: G'day, Eric. Um, we're gonna get Eric on the show. Where does Eric live? Somewhere in the States.

Tommy: Somewhere in America. Yeah, deep.

Josh: Anyway, anyway, the, uh, I watched a video where these guys had like 6 different salads from 6 different fast food places and they were trying to like rank them. It was blind taste test, so that was, that was fun. I enjoyed it. I watched it till the end. It went for like 12 minutes.

Tommy: Yeah, but you are a sicko watching the most random things. I'll tell you one thing that I'm super pumped about Amy wasn't pumped about it when I was in the car. Uh, Ron Burgundy, you know who he is?

Josh: Will Ferrell.

Tommy: Yeah, so he's the, the character Ron Burgundy played by Will Ferrell in, um, what's it called? Uh, Anchorman. So he is Anchorman.

Josh: Ferrell versus Ferrell.

Tommy: Ferrell.

Josh: This is the thing, Australians say Ferrell.

Tommy: Ferrell. Ferrell. Ferrell. Will Ferrell. There's been— I've, I saw something Pharrell.

Josh: Okay, that's fine.

Tommy: Don't really care. He's Ron Burgundy to me. And so he's got his own podcast. Ron Burgundy has a podcast. It was in the top section, so driving I can only browse because I pick up my phone, I just like see what's rating the most. And this was up there and it was a 2-minute podcast. It was like the teaser to his new podcast he's got coming out. But I was thinking like, this is mind-blowing. In this fucking time where your favourite movie, the dude or the girl or the creature, whatever the movie is, could have its own podcast that you could listen to so you don't see it, so they don't have to worry about the practice. I don't know, I, I, it was just the trailer, so it was literally just random content. But I was thinking like Jason Bourne, like John Wick.

Josh: Imagine like, who's John Wick again?

Tommy: John Wick. You're just gonna watch John Wick. Okay, he's the guy who got his His wife died and then the dog that his wife got him got killed by these gangsters and then he comes out of retirement because he's a hitman and kills everybody.

Josh: Can we do— '97— can we do a montage of every time Tommy has to describe the plot of George Wick? John Wick. John Wick. I did that to troll.

Tommy: No, no, that is fair. Um, it's also The Matrix too. Do you want me to fucking sum that one up?

Josh: How would you sum up The Matrix?

Tommy: Like, if I could listen to Neo from The Matrix, like his own podcast, and he's like setting the scene— because I think it would be like, it's, it's like a, a no— it's like a creative fucking, uh, non-fiction fiction novel, right? Where you're like, like an audiobook, create this world and it could just go anywhere. I think it's a genius idea. So you could listen to Neo from The Matrix is talking about he's, you know, on some new planet and he's just like, oh, I love Harry Potter.

Josh: Having his own podcast.

Tommy: Harry Potter having his own?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: At what point is this? Like post? He's like, dude, I've got depression, I'm tainted by the world now, I've been dabbling in MDMA, Hermione's fucked, she's a piece of shit, we had a falling out, some say it's me, you know, everyone thinks I'm a piece of shit these days.

Josh: Are you actually getting into character now, Mr. 97? Talking about Will Ferrell, can you get the, the the book that I was really excited about. Uh, sorry, it's down. Yeah, it's the one, the Judd Apatow book. So you were talking about Will Ferrell. So it's sort of— we're both eating, we're sort of taking turns. Uh, Judd Apatow, I think he's directed a few films that Will Ferrell's been in, maybe. Anyway, I, uh, I've been a fan.

Tommy: If you don't know, there's no chance I would.

Josh: Well, why would I?

Tommy: Like, I don't know, there's no chance you will.

Josh: Yeah, that's more like it.

Tommy: You don't watch films. Here we go, look at, look at the, the, the, um, in red: Anyone ever remotely interested in comedy or humanity should own this book. Will Ferrell.

Josh: Will Ferrell. Anyway, got this book. I've talked about them before, World of Books. They're a secondhand bookshop. Uh, I've been able to, like, normally books on Amazon to $20 or whatever. If it's an older book, I'll go on to Amazon— I'm sorry, go on to World of Books, $11. Sure, impressive.

Tommy: Not impressed at all by— I was actually thinking some of the two most boring things are hearing what someone ate and maybe hearing about books.

Josh: It's a good episode. Anyway, to be honest, this is where it gets very, very interesting. So this specific book, yeah, it's sort of like It's very thick.

Tommy: Thick as fuck. How many pages? 300? 400? 463. 463.

Josh: 488.

Tommy: Oh, it's not—

Josh: Anyway, the thing is, I get this book and I'm like, it looks a bit different to normal books. It's, uh, it's not a hardcover, but it's big like a hardcover. Anyway, on the top of it, it says— Uncorrect— Can you stop throwing chips to Mr. 97 like he's a fucking seagull? Uncorrected proof, not for sale.

Tommy: Yeah, so what they've done is they've bought a pack of Magnums from the supermarket, opened them up, and then sold individual Magnums.

Josh: Exactly.

Tommy: When there's not for individual sale, it's like ice cream for people who—

Josh: is a Magnum Australian?

Tommy: I don't know, what's it— what, what's an American?

Josh: It's like getting little Reese's Peanut Butter Cups and selling them separately when it says not for individual sale. Yeah, anyway, it's a good hustle. This is— it says not for sale. It's like unedited, or should I say, so this is basically the publisher has given this to someone in the media or someone before the book has come out, and it has ended up in the secondhand book thing. And now I have it now, and what I bought wasn't this version, it was just the, like, a normal book. Do you think it's more valuable, or should I be trying to chase for my money back?

Tommy: No, I think it's fine. I think it— you, you'll see the flaws, which, uh, it's what happens when someone writes a book. You just don't usually get to see it. The one thing I will say though is like, if you see this, there's like smudges of dirt. Like there would be DNA if someone has actually read this. There'll be DNA somewhere inside of the, the book. And the ones I've seen you getting delivered here, like there will be hair follicles or like, um, skin follicles at least in that. I was thinking about like buying— like, there's, there's some secondhand stuff you steer clear of, right?

Josh: Name 3 things.

Tommy: Uh, a mattress. I've sold a secondhand one, so I'm kind of like doing the, doing the devil's work.

Josh: You don't mind if someone wants to wear your undies?

Tommy: Selling underwear. Don't buy secondhand underwear. Thanks for that. Second one. Third one, um, anything relating to the bathroom. Like, you'd never fucking try and sell some toilet. Buying a set—

Josh: I mean, if you can afford the new one, but a secondhand toilet, no, that's fine.

Tommy: I guess you get it. Okay, maybe not the toilet, but definitely a mattress. I'll stick with that one. Like, if you have no other option and, and you think I'm being privileged here, it's like I've just seen the disastrous, you know, stains on a mattress. Like, ours is fucked. We've got a mattress filthy. We had a kid— we had a kid— we have a kid, Amy and I, and it was gronk behavior. We forgot to put the fucking undersheet on it. We just didn't have one. And so we had a sheet, of course, but then there's like a mattress protector which we didn't have.

Josh: And he shit the bed.

Tommy: Oh, he's spilling shit. He's not shitting, but just like when you have like the first few weeks of having a baby It's just in the bed suckling away. They're just like useless. They're just in one hole, out the other, burping. They're useless. But it is disgusting. Like, we've spilled tea onto it and then it's stained the thing. So this looks disgusting, but it's— so mattresses are one thing you don't buy. Secondhand books, you actually have no idea.

Josh: That's exciting. Like, it could be any— like, I think that's really exciting.

Tommy: We bought a pram the other day, secondhand pram.

Josh: That's okay, good safety rating.

Tommy: Mate, it's not a car seat, so I'm not worried about the safety rating. As long as it feels like it's stable, you don't look into that. You'd overthink having the kid. Actually, you've overthought having the kid was why you're not having the kid.

Josh: Do you still have the— does Bodhi ever get into this thing that you strap on?

Tommy: Oh, he's too big. He's solid.

Josh: He fucked my back for like 3 weeks from that thing.

Tommy: I'd say your back was fucked and he was just being a little human. But we bought this pram and Amy, you've just seen this, see Amy's always wanted to become a better negotiator or, you know, like you're going to buy something like a car, you know, the things that you can actually, you know, negotiate the price. She doesn't just try and do it at Coles, but we—

Josh: What's the weirdest place you have done it, by the way?

Tommy: Oh, like I always try in clothing shops, like, is there a discount in this? Is this best you can do? Clothing stores, majority of the time, will be like, oh, we could probably take 5% off. Really? Always. Like, the—

Josh: where? Name one store.

Tommy: General Pants, really.

Josh: They're overpriced.

Tommy: Cotton On.

Josh: Cotton On?

Tommy: Yeah, they're pretty marginal. You've got a $5 t-shirt, is this the best you can do? Um, a bunch of— maybe not, maybe electronic stores, places, but definitely all electronics. Yeah, you can.

Josh: I spent so much time as a kid I remember eyeballing a guy and, and me being like, look, I need a quote from you, a printed out quote. And he said, we're not doing printed out quotes because you'll just go to one of our competitors and get for a better price. I'm like, looked into the eyes, I'm like, absolutely not, I want to get it from you, I just need to show my mum and dad how much it's going to cost. So he prints out the quote, I go to fucking Harvey Norman, get a better deal. Never trust young JJ.

Tommy: Yeah, that's, that's deceitful.

Josh: It is, but I wouldn't do it. Like, I rarely do it nowadays.

Tommy: No, you're doing the call around. I appreciate it. I mean, this is where you always do the call around if you really want the best price on something, but you can definitely do it there.

Josh: So, so what happened with that?

Tommy: It was the gum tree, uh, like, that's where we found it. And so we went to this house in Malvern, not far from where we live.

Josh: I'm surprised you didn't know the people. I feel like there's probably a 50% chance that you're like, oh my God, it's John.

Tommy: Maybe I was thinking that on the way. Didn't know them, just a couple there, you know, living in sort of a two-story townhouse, you know, a couple of cars in the front. We walked in and it's there, and online it was $150. Amy's like, the good thing is it said neg, negotiable. And so I'm like, yep, you can look after this. Kind of pull myself away. I don't want to get involved.

Josh: And she yells out, 200!

Tommy: Fuck, tinkering around this thing. And then Amy sort of does her thing. It's all awkward. I can tell she's feeling awkward. So now let's talk price. And it's like, the way you approach it, I don't know how— like, if you're just a front foot and be confident, I think that's still an awkward approach because then you haven't considered the other person.

Josh: Talk price.

Tommy: Oh, something like that.

Josh: Does that make you cringe?

Tommy: Yeah, definitely. But I think if she was like, um, so here's what I've got to offer you, you know, like, if she was confident in that—

Josh: even that, just send a text beforehand and work out the fucking price.

Tommy: No, no, no, this is the thing. You've got to work it out in the time. You're playing with people's emotions in the moment. This is what a good negotiator would do. Either takes like the— assumes the confidence in the situation to sort of drive and direct where they want it to go for them. And so Amy said, look, where we, um And then the husband, she said, I'm not good with this, so she got her husband to come out. Trevor, come! And so Trevor comes down. G'day. And he was lovely. And, um, Amy said, so, uh, you know, what's the best price? And he, and he wouldn't answer. He's like, oh, you know, we wanted to go to a good home. We're not— our house is not big enough here. I'm thinking, fuck, we got a one, two-bedroom apartment, it's like a quarter of the size of this joint and you're worrying about space? And he's like, 'You know, you can make me an offer.' So she says it was $150 to start with.

Josh: What, $100?

Tommy: $100, yeah.

Josh: And $70 would have been fucking—

Tommy: yeah, yeah, yeah, $75, 50% less. I don't know, there was no tactic here other than $100 just seemed like a nice— and it was in great condition.

Josh: And what did he say?

Tommy: He said, 'Oh yeah, look.' He got awkward as well. I'm just fucking down at the thing, just like asking the lady, like, 'How do you put this down?' We've got one.

Josh: I knew how to put it down. It's already in the car. Amy, get in the car.

Tommy: 'Get in the car.' And he goes, 'You're revving.' 'Oh, all right, all right, 100's fine. Yep, yep.' And so it was great, we got 100 bucks. It's so cheap. It was like, 'Do you feel good?' Here's the thing, I felt great. I was like, 'What a weapon, my wife is amazing.' 'What about this?' We got in the car, she's like, 'Should I go give him the other 50?' No, do you know what I think you do?

Josh: I reckon 25 bucks, spend 25 Get him a gift.

Tommy: I think it's a nice idea.

Josh: Maybe some chocolates.

Tommy: What are the chances of someone who sold something through Gumtree that happening? That is nice. I think we could— $25, they'll be—

Josh: send them a surprise and delight.

Tommy: Send them what, flowers? What do you send a person you don't know?

Josh: We could forward them the $36.45 left on our—

Tommy: remaining on our vouchers voucher.

Josh: Just forward and say, hey, this is legit. Just— they'll get What do you think? You're opening the Perinaze. Yeah, which is like a peri peri mayonnaise. Mr. 97, have some chippies before they go cold. Just watch that cable in front.

Tommy: Uh, no, I think sending them something. I don't know, what do you send them?

Josh: Oh no, really ruined this. The, um, uh, we've got an update in regards to the wall.

Tommy: Oh, we do. So yesterday's show, just talking about the this wording. So if you haven't ever watched an episode, we filmed this in our studio here in Collingwood, and I was in here first before Josh and I got into business together. And I had this idea of collecting old pallets that would hold, you know, fruit.

Josh: People know what pallets are?

Tommy: Okay, yeah, a pallet is what a forklift picks up, and then on the pallet is the goods. So you could put bricks onto it, you could put boxes of fruit, you could put, you know, I don't know.

Josh: I can't wait to be around Bodhi when he asks you questions.

Tommy: But what, hang on, is that not a good answer?

Josh: It's a fucking great answer.

Tommy: Yeah, and so I'm trying to paint the picture.

Josh: What's sex to you? Like, how would you describe sex?

Tommy: So, um, I'm fucked.

Josh: And you will too one day, hopefully.

Tommy: Yeah, that's another, that's a whole nother.

Josh: But you haven't thought about the birds and the bees?

Tommy: Not yet, mate. It is unbelievable how like Bodhi's just like touching his little penis.

Josh: Oh, but we're not talking about that. How did this happen? No, but like, so I'm so sorry about—

Tommy: Oh, you asked me, it's on my mind.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry about yesterday with the tradie dick, by the way. Yeah, no, Mr. 97 didn't even bury the lead.

Tommy: It was very funny.

Josh: I was like, oh, is that what— Did we end up agreeing that was the title?

Tommy: So what I'm basically saying is I think I think— I can't remember being told about this stuff. I legit think you work it out pretty quickly. Like, he's already working out that like touching his little dickie makes it change. Like, it's bizarre, dude.

Josh: He's fucking— he's not even 2. He's not even 2.

Tommy: He's definitely like— he knows, he calls it dickie, dickie. He knows.

Josh: Where does he get that from?

Tommy: I don't know. Maybe I called it, told him that it was a dickie. But he says, like, I put his nappy on, he says, 'Night-night, Dickie,' like his dickie's going to bed because it's now—

Josh: it's a rest.

Tommy: But it's bizarre. It's bizarre that they know that there's some sort of, like, anyway, so that's what a pallet is. That's what a pallet is. And I sourced a bunch of these and, um, asked sort of like factories, 'Hey, you guys have any pallets that I could take?' 'Yeah, sure.' Um, 150? No, some of them— there was one place you can buy— you can buy secondhand ones at the these. Anyway, I got it all for free and I broke it all apart. Some of these pallets are probably like 10, 15 years old, and it's, it, it's very cool. It's a— it's now the backdrop of our video that we do every—

Josh: it's in the background as well for our podcast artwork.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. So we get an email, that's what it is, from our mate Wayne.

Josh: Wayne writes— sorry, I'm still eating.

Tommy: Can you finish so I can start?

Josh: Yeah. Uh, I'm nearly— that's why I'm trying to smash it. We still got a lot of chippies. Uh, Wayne says the reason the pallets have property of on them is that LOSCAM own the pallets and the recipients are supposed to set up an account with them and they get charged a rental fee for any pallets they have on hand at the end of each month. If done properly, receivers are supposed to complete a pallet transfer process to account for the pallets they receive and send out. If the buildup number of pallets over time— well, sorry, build up over time— they will then do a dehire and transfer the pallets back to LOSCAM, usually a truckload at a time or about 300 pallets. Broken or damaged pallets are still deemed to be the property of LOSCAM and can be returned and taken off your account. Sometimes they will agree to write off some pallets if they are deemed unsuitable for return. That said, a lot of businesses don't account for their pallet movements correctly, especially smaller operators, and there can be a bit of an illegal market of pallets. All this comes from having dealt with pallet control processes for around 20 years for both Lozcam and CHEP in various companies I've worked for. By the way, I've always known it to be pronounced LOS CAM, not LOS CAM, you bunch of gronks. Keep up the good work, Wayne. He didn't say bunch of gronks.

Tommy: That's fucking funny. It is LOS CAM.

Josh: Yeah, so, but want to be a tradie, so I'm in debt. Yeah, so the thing is, it's the equivalent of, um, you've used a DVD rental store's DVDs as your backdrop. Someone's fucking clocking up a massive bill.

Tommy: But so what's the responsibility when you find out something like this? Because I source these legally by asking somebody or taking them off like hard rubbish.

Josh: It's a '97. You're a good guide on these types of things.

Tommy: What do you just mean? He has a greater moral compass than I do?

Josh: A compass?

Tommy: What do you think? Where's Gemma Watts when you need her, you know, to bully your mate? To fucking get him on his intellectual disabilities. Said it on purpose. He laughed. I got the laugh that I fucking wanted, Mason. It's called comedy.

Josh: What do you think, 97? Do you think it's okay to have— do we— should we—

Tommy: well, they're not going to take him back now.

Josh: Well, but do I think we're just—

Tommy: you know, mate, you work at Los Camp.

Josh: Yeah, they're going to write them off. Yeah, so we— but should we take— I feel like it's a liability for our business.

Tommy: What, the, uh, Loz Cam will sue us?

Josh: Yeah, that we've got all of this stuff and that we're going to get a bill and that there's going to be interest.

Tommy: But how would they know what the bill is?

Josh: Because you can buy, like, times it by how many shows they see.

Tommy: Go to, right now, go to Gumtree, which is like Craigslist, uh, and search, um, pallets. Loz Cam pallets.

Josh: You want me to write Loz?

Tommy: Yeah, look, there's literal companies that aren't Lozcam that are selling these things. So if you bought a stack of DVDs, I mean, poor Gronkh— he's not a poor Gronkh, he's just a Gronkh that never returned them.

Josh: Look at that, here you go, Stacey's selling some nice beautiful red ones. Hi Stacey. Uh, someone's saying I'm interested. Hang on, what's that?

Tommy: No, that's you preempting what it would say.

Josh: It's $20.

Tommy: Aye aye, Josh.

Josh: $20. Negotiable. What do you reckon Amy could get them as far as for?

Tommy: I reckon Amy would sell, if we're buying multiples, $10. $10.

Josh: I'm saying Amy, your wife.

Tommy: Oh, sorry, sorry. Yeah, $10.

Josh: $10. We'd spend $10.

Tommy: If Amy was to do it, $10.

Josh: Yeah, they're in Dandenong.

Tommy: The problem with these things that we're talking about, they're about 30 kilos each.

Josh: Buy in bulk and save.

Tommy: They're very, very heavy.

Josh: Should we do some form of, um, I reckon it would be a fun video for you to make.

Tommy: The life of a pallet. It's a, um, get a representative from LOSCAM.

Josh: Maybe there could be some— given we've given them so much publicity, we owe them nothing.

Tommy: But it would be interesting. But maybe they owe us something.

Josh: Maybe we need to work out how many sort of times we've spoken about it. Yeah, and we can suss all this sort of stuff out.

Tommy: Well, we get asked about it and we say— people say, what the fuck is that in the background of your shot? I'm eating, you can't eat while I'm eating. You saw me eat a chip.

Josh: Look how desperate I'm getting. They put like honey in this, it's delicious.

Tommy: Oh yeah.

Josh: Guess how many books you can rent out at a given time at a library?

Tommy: I don't know. Um, well, we were asking this yesterday, what— because we were saying how stupid it is that you're buying all of these books when you could just—

Josh: wasn't yesterday, it was episode 276.

Tommy: 276. Yes.

Josh: 4 books at a time. How many do you think?

Tommy: Yeah, 5 or 6.

Josh: 5 or 6.

Tommy: All right, that's always one up me, doesn't he?

Josh: Here we go. This is— Wayne's done it again. Wayne, um, Re Josh asking how many items you can borrow from the library. Don't know about other library services, but in Geelong, which is, um, second biggest city in Melbourne— uh, no, sorry, in Victoria, second biggest city after Melbourne. Is that how you say it?

Tommy: Just let it sit, mate. I'm not the one who judges.

Josh: The following—

Tommy: I don't give a shit what you say.

Josh: The following applies. Borrowing guidelines: library members may borrow up to 40 items at a time. 40 items? There's a high chance of losing 7 of those, including up to 15 DVDs and 15 music CDs.

Tommy: Mate, who's got a DVD player or a CD player these days?

Josh: But you could, you could actually rip the music. You wouldn't need a Spotify.

Tommy: Or you could have Netflix and just watch.

Josh: Yeah, but this is free.

Tommy: Free. I guess it's free.

Josh: That's it.

Tommy: Then you still got to have a—

Josh: can we do something? Actually, here we go. We— sorry, I had chicken in my teeth. You know how we were talking the other day about, uh, the lead, like who is, um, leading videos? And like, we worked out we need a leader.

Tommy: Maybe we're talking about collaboration, and in one, one of the vid— we worked out that we can't both— in most cases it can't just be 100% 50/50 on everything. There should be sort of one person who's leading vision, someone assisting. Okay, you're my bitch.

Josh: I've got two. I've got a video.

Tommy: My bitch on the Loz Cam video.

Josh: This is why he can't lead. Leaders don't call their fucking—

Tommy: yeah, they do.

Josh: Colleagues.

Tommy: You fucking looked at, um, what are you gonna say?

Josh: Does he call them bitches?

Tommy: Oh, he's ladies.

Josh: You can't say that anymore. What? You can't say bitches. Well, the thing is, if you— if especially if you call a female a bitch, I'm calling— it's being sexist. So if someone is like— I always say asshole. She's being a fucking asshole.

Tommy: I'll still call you my bitch.

Josh: You'll call me— okay, that's fine.

Tommy: You're my female dog. I don't think it's that bad. No, I get it. I'm not—

Josh: don't call women a bitch. No, but I think the thing is, if you call a female a bitch it takes away— people can say you're sexist. If, sure, if she's being an absolute fucking asshole, can you feel like—

Tommy: can you call her a cow?

Josh: Nah, no, you— I don't think you can do any of the ones that are like—

Tommy: yeah, I appreciate that. I won't call, but if I call you my bitch, I think you could probably call me your bitch.

Josh: I'm okay with that. But so the idea— so we've got the, we've got the palette, the palette video. Could you do a video in February?

Tommy: Yes.

Josh: That explores this whole palette thing.

Tommy: Definitely.

Josh: So that's what I wanted, that's what I want you to do. See, so you're leading that, are you? You're leading.

Tommy: No, I will. No, I love the idea, it's a great idea.

Josh: So my idea, something around books and libraries. Yeah, understanding the library, because I fucking hate that idea, probably.

Tommy: Uh, I think it's—

Josh: I think books are dumb.

Tommy: No, what I like about it is that we're getting so far away from the time of it being a real requirement that it actually—

Josh: reading?

Tommy: No, just libraries with what is at hand in a smart device. Or if you've got the internet and you've got some money, you can get a lot of information at a very low cost. Should it be from your house? You don't have to go to a location. So what, so my, what I'm saying is the further we get away from the actual need of a library the more interesting it is that they're still around. And so there's some quirks like understanding 15 DVDs. You sell— you have got DVDs, 40 books. So I find that shit interesting. So as far as an idea goes, it does. There is shit because it's not something I would ever need to know personally, but I like the fact that I now know that.

Josh: Wouldn't it? But just think how much money you can borrow toys from some libraries, I believe.

Tommy: For what? What am I Why do I want— that's secondhand toys. What? Don't fucking buy secondhand. Buying secondhand, like, specific toys.

Josh: What happened to the plastic instrument that I gave you?

Tommy: It's in my cupboard. I put it in the cupboard. He gave me a toy from when he was a kid, so I didn't buy it, so I'm not breaking my rule. But it is a flute. It's a fucking flute, mate. You gave me an instrument for my son and a kazoo, and this is the most annoying thing on earth.

Josh: That's what I used to just fucking walking around the house. Yeah, mum's like, what the fuck have we done?

Tommy: Anything that makes a noise, your kid just finds and goes, that's the sound. Yeah, to fuck with mum and dad non-stop. But yeah, I do like the idea.

Josh: Um, so hi@thedailytalkshow.com if you've got any intel on these two. So if you have some form of intel in regards to libraries? Maybe you have a hookup, maybe you know, because I've never been to like the legit ones in Melbourne. What are they called? What's that called?

Tommy: The Melbourne— the State Library is phenomenal. I've never been there, seen photos. You should— we should go. We just can't talk. It's just, you're gonna be quiet in there, like the etiquette of a library.

Josh: That would give me a lot of anxiety, I think.

Tommy: But you— what, not being able to talk?

Josh: I can't even— I don't go to the toilet on planes because I can't deal with the whole, is it free, is it not free? It looks like it's green, but the fucker hasn't closed the thing.

Tommy: All right, mate.

Josh: We're talking to this morning about if you accidentally like something that you're not meant to be liking on Instagram.

Tommy: Oh yeah, that happens. You— what's the, what's the word? You're the walking contradiction. A dude who hates interaction with people who loves traveling, and travelling is the thing that you need to interact with people. It doesn't really make sense. Yeah, it's funny. It's funny, that's what I mean. I've travelled with you, you do fine.

Josh: When I do it, I'm really proud of myself. Like, if I'm tense, I'm like, why the fuck is this? Like, you know what, it's because I've been needing a piss for 4 hours and we still got 6 hours till we arrive.

Tommy: That's funny. So all right, we'll do the— do the library video and the Loz cam video.

Josh: Yeah, Loz cam video.

Tommy: Did I not say that?

Josh: Yeah, sort of, I guess. Again, Wayne's on board. Uh, hi@thedailytalkshow.com. Really, It'd be fun. Maybe if you guys have some really good intel, maybe you're a librarian, maybe you know some librarians, because we want people— we could do interviews and stuff. I'd like to do it as like, this is a public service announcement on libraries.

Tommy: For sure.

Josh: It's a daily talk show.

Tommy: I'm really— I just want to finish myself.

Josh: Enjoy the rest of your Friday, and we'll see you on Monday, everyone.

Tommy: If you're doing Fat Friday, send us photos of your food too. Yeah, my wife's on to it.

Josh: What is she eating today?

Tommy: I don't know today, but she's always just messing with me.

Josh: She's got a $50 note handy that she can use based on her savings.

Tommy: Oh yeah, technically that's saving money. I don't look at it like that.

Josh: No, no, that's, that's why I'm a bit fucked.

Tommy: Where the fuck's the $50 come from?

Josh: The saving.

Tommy: But we didn't spend it.

Josh: Yeah, okay, have a good one guys. See you guys. Actually, also before you go, uh, if you're listening to this You can subscribe to us via YouTube and watch the videos. And if you're watching this, if you're watching this on YouTube, uh, we did an Instagram poll and most people are, um, listening. Yeah. So if you, if you—

Tommy: Surprisingly, there's lots of people watching too.

Josh: But if you want to listen, you can go through the, the other quick thing. We don't normally do this. What is it? Uh, review us on the podcast app. Thanks to, um, I've just gone blank on her name. Annie.

Tommy: Yeah, you just feel like it.

Josh: Yeah, is that what I said?

Tommy: So I just will say, I'll just throw some shade at the Apple Podcast app. Clunky. Clunky for the size of your business, bro.

Josh: Yeah, it's really—

Tommy: your system's not 100% there. It'd be in the way. One thing that Apple Podcast app has actually increased the, um—

Josh: go on, the user— I'll get it out.

Tommy: I'll fucking get it out.

Josh: You should watch me.

Tommy: Watch me get this out. Search function, type in the Daily Talk Co. Huh? So you fuck it up, right? You'd think that like an app would just sort of bring up pretty much what you were trying to say. For a long time it was like butchering— it would just like stop the search results, like nothing, because it's not specific, it's not exactly what you're writing.

Josh: Sounds like something I would do.

Tommy: And then it started to— like if you're sort of typing someone's name wrong, someone who's famous who's got a podcast it's like bringing up episodes or their own podcast.

Josh: So it's getting better, but it's still being a nap to people like me. Uh, but Jenny Anne on Tuesday left us a review.

Tommy: Yeah, what did Jenny do?

Josh: Smart dudes, 5 stars, great interesting conversation, believe in yourself guys.

Tommy: I appreciate the last bit, but have we been talking about not believing in ourselves or are we just omitting this disbelief in ourselves?

Josh: I think that, yeah, maybe we've got desperate sort of The fact that we're asking for reviews feels a bit like that, doesn't it? Yeah. No, it's okay.

Tommy: Thanks, Jenny. It's pretty— I appreciate it.

Josh: We're gonna actually go now. It's a daily talk show. Have a good one, guys. Bye.