#228 – Tommy’s Regrettable Tweets/

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Conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Janssen and Tommy jacket le token Show Episode 228. How are we? That was a bit clunky wasn't that again? That's okay. It's

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It's It's 3:30pm here in Melbourne. Yeah, I literally just thought I've still got a few more days of the week left. No, Thursday. Yeah. Your energy's a little bit low, but that's okay. Yeah, if a feeling em up flat, just tired. Yeah. I think it just catches up with you. Do you think that's a real thing like your week catches up with you? I mean, is that just called cognitive load across multiple days in a row. I do wonder like if I just sleep well for one

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Does that especially like the bags under my eyes? Look at the bag. Yeah, and I tell you to stop winking at me but you're actually just going to twitch in one Hi. I think it's because I'm tired Yeah, people might be tired if the in San Jose California I it's aight aight 30 Pm there right now. Yeah, well so that'll be interesting because although we're wearing Melbourne Collingwood where we where we live just outside of

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the CBD centre on the fringe, yeah, on the fringe Baby, I thought, um, there's people listening all around the place. So that gives you an idea. It's 3:30pm on Thursday, but it is 8:30pm in California, right right now, right now, the day before, the day before, but we're in the same universe. So it's, it's right now time zones a fact. But also, we won't tell the time there. But shout out to Malaysia.

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had an email come through. Adrian, yo, yo, Malaysia.

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That just reminded me that triggered the memory of your video where you're like, yo, yo, 2012. Can I have my Where did that say why beta back? What was that in? In that digital minimalism? That's right. No, yeah, it was I say 2007 we want your bookmarks back or is about bookmarks if you use the yo yo, yeah, it was very same time. Okay, sorry about that. Name. Oh, yeah. Adrian. He obviously watched Matt de villas podcast, obviously, because he told us so he did watch it. Where we were on yesterday. And he's fascinated by the the Josh quit social media. And it seems so a bunch of other people. It seems that you by removing social media freed up an hour of your time, but also spent an hour of that time talking to other people about this, which is interesting. I said to you today, it's almost like

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You're getting the result out of what what you could out of social media by going the opposite direction. It's a fascinating thing it's had cut through. Yeah, similar to CrossFit to veganism to minimalism. I'm enjoying talking about it. Yeah. You see how you could fall into a trap? Nah, then the niche or niche whichever country you're in. It's you could be the guy yet this could be you. Yeah.

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I don't think I could talk about this forever. I feel like I'm gonna get over it. Yeah, but what's, what's Adrian, asking? Yeah, Adrian, he had a couple of questions.

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Which Adrian, if you if you're listening now yesterday's episode, Kyle, who also sent some you know, a question through on this similar topic. I think if you listen to that one also that will probably deliver on on some things you might be thinking. He said, How do you handle fo mo fear of missing out amongst

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Your friends and family that is still on it. Your response to me was very funny this morning. When I told you that question there what I think it's, it's based on the idea that I'm that I feel like I'll be missing out. Yeah, basically that idea like I,

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the way I said it didn't paint me in a very nice picture. No, but I mean, if friends and family on social media, if you if, if they're really friends and family, they probably like you've got some cousins and stuff that are on social media. I've asked you that, like the cousin you like, I haven't seen them in ages. So they friends and family. Are you needing to know what they're up to? If you were saying with a family gathering, of course, you'll be like, oh, what's up? Yeah, well, I'm a mom is one of 11 kids so that there are cases where it's like cousins of cousins of sisters if I lose track on the connexion. But no, I think that it's a fine moat. No, because I the drain for me is probably better.

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A bit hermit. I enjoy not having to to speak. Do I sound like an asshole when I'm saying that on that? No, no, no No when you know you it's like I think the dude so repaying the stereotype of some guy who loves going to the gym he is robbing me. No definitely this will be opposite by the end of let's go into the beach. Okay, let's get these top off lads rubbing oil on himself in court and labs photos with the boys at music festivals. Yeah, he's the guy that will get fibre. And you know that I'm not that guy. You're not that guy. You'll get photos, social situations, which I think Adrian Josh won't be having fo mo of social situations. But there's Jomo which I heard a while ago which I can really relate to which is the joy of missing out. where's where's the joy come from? The other joy comes out like being caught. You know, the feeling you get when someone cancels plans. And you didn't want

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to potentially go that well, I guess that's just my default thinking just you know, any any regard really I find like the personal law Yeah. If I can so we can all be like have just frayed up an hour. Yeah. And and it's one that you haven't got anything. You've got nothing you're doing that now because you had previously dedicated to someone else. And then it's almost like it's the closest to the feeling like the feeling I get when I work on a weekend. No one else is working. I'm getting ahead. This is like your special time.

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The second question though, he asked was, as a media company, how do you still get work? I'm a freelance, in photography and videography. What do you think I should do to get work other than through social media? Yeah, I reckon I did a blog post a Josh Janssen calm

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about I'm surprised you give me any pushback. throwing that out there. Not

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just a nice face, though.

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punched in the nose ready for it?

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I wrote a blog post about conflicting advice. I reckon that there's, it's like the the advice to just say no more off often if it's if it's

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if it's not a hell yes, it's a no, which is Derek cyphers, who created CD Baby. That's that's sort of his philosophy. But I reckon there is a time in life where you actually just have to say yes to everything. You have to be on every social media platform, you have to be doing lots of stuff. But I feel like I started freelancing when I was 14. I'm now 28. So I feel like I'm at an age where I've sort of developed enough of a network where now if I just keep doing the work, and keep connecting up in the real world, I don't really need social media. Yeah, definitely worth it for point. And if you don't have a network, you can network online. Yes. Social Network. That is that's the where it stops.

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Right, what would happen if you I guess, like the opposite of the social media thing? What about rather than doing an Instagram post? If you reached out to three people via email every day, it would have way more cuts. Yeah, I think, what, 15 people by the end of the week, there's, yeah, there's Yeah, there's more worth in that more connexion. If that's what you're trying to connect with. I'm trying to build a case as to why maybe you shouldn't be on social media. Yeah, I felt that I've I saw you fat and sniffing around on my old YouTube videos and my Twitter account, which I rarely use, other than, you know, automate, automatically share the daily talk show. podcast. Yeah, appreciate it. But I went back all the way to when was it 2014 which isn't that long ago, only four years ago. Don't bring up on your 2014 Yeah.

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Where were you in your life? What was going on when he fought 20 1224 that was when I was

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was just met me. Okay. 2013 2014 Yeah, so would have been in Sydney. Okay, either off the back of shipping and going to Sydney. Well, you were doing a lot of in 2015, specifically, a lot of photos of random people that you didn't know, on Twitter. So there's one where it's, you've taken a photo of a lady looks like she's on public transport. Yes. And you've written What are your thoughts about eating pies on public transport? Everything about it stinks. And you notice a photo of

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that with the pie. Yeah, the context you want to give on that you sort of cut out of face like, do you think that's okay because you cannot, that's totally fine. You wouldn't be able to tell she wouldn't even know who that is. This many years back that was on a train in Sydney, the double decker, the which are in the south because I'm from Melbourne. We didn't have them growing up. So I was fascinated when I first

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started going up to Sydney. Yeah, and I remember just the stench of that meat pie. That's that's an off the train food. Just Just as is I whole chicken, which you've also seen have you know, I saw that at the fracking airport. They were trying to scoff the chicken before they went through security

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brought food Chicken.

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Chicken, you've got some form of

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seems like public transport brings it out in you. I think it brings it in. Like Tippett, but you seem to share more. Yeah, it says it's a great place to be observant and see the quirks which is you know me I do that. I'll show you a photo that you shared and you can tell me about this bloke why thinking I posted describe what he looks like. Yeah, to make that Santa. So describe the photo.

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Looks like I cannot remember doing this on an aeroplane.

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And it's from very low looking at so it's a sneaky sharp you can fully see his face fully see his face, except for half of his face is covered by a ginormous grey beard. So he looks like Santa. And so you wrote, this was the 22nd of January 2015. So summer in Australia. This is where my head is just going with I said and just after Christmas, yeah. Insert Santa jokey. Great. What do you reckon you do this nowadays? And

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I've got more to lose now. I didn't back then. But do you think you've got more empathy for like that old dude as well. But

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here's the thing I posted a photo on Keith FM's Instagram account. It's a radio show here, a radio station here in Australia when I was working for them digital content, and it was this dude that had the longest hair you've ever seen down to the ground, orange a walking through the city, not homeless. So second

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A dude who probably likes having long hair, and I wrote something was like, have you spotted Rapunzel? So it like it wasn't. This has this idiot It was like, Oh my god, how cool is this guy's hair? How cool is this Rapunzel his hair or something like that. And someone called up and said and complained at the radio station. Did you have to take it? I was so pissed off that the the boss took it down. And I said to him was that photo man. He's

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like, he wasn't even going to tell me about it. He's like,

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someone caught up and complained to take it down. I said, Why? Why did you take it down? And he just was pandering to people that were just giving any pushback because he didn't want have to deal with it. There was no face in it. It was just from the back. I think it was interesting observation. And yeah, it was a bit like I feel the same way. Anyway, so November for I feel like you're trying they're going like the first one no face second one face

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to face

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Is it ever toilet keep going. So this was that November 2014. I'll show you a photo just had a thing for taking photos of people. Yeah, and then writing captions but you can definitely see their face is the photo. Let's say what do you what do you take of that? What do you describe it to our listeners? That is what it looks like is someone at the races? I can't even remember she's got a sash on the rice is being the rice is being the horse races where all the gals and guys doll up and put on you know, dresses and suits and I can't even like I didn't even know what I would have written there's just an old lady who's dolled up wearing like holding a phone in her hand. And then

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Okay, they're enabled. What the hell no shoes on? no shirt. Yeah, I definitely would have commented on the shoes. Yeah, so you said nice to see the Melbourne Cup class has found its way to the airport hashtag Melbourne Cup. 2014 hashtag barefoot

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Hashtag old class. Yeah. Put some facts and shoes on girls. So you were April. That's disgusting. So you would you would keep that up do you think? Yeah, I wouldn't probably I wouldn't do it now but I saw you sniffing around some old in Snapchat videos that I put up. I wouldn't do that now like I was I was even watching myself whereas I used to Snapchat everything right? And I think it was. And I'll say if you want to start becoming a better storyteller, start Instagram, storing everything and annoying everyone won't get to you Josh. But I think it is a great way to tell a linear storey. So the automatic editing of these things just you know, in order you tell the storey and it gives you a moment to think about the next little bit the next little bit and will it tell a storey by the end of the 10 little instance storeys or snapchats you could do that without having to post it. Yeah, definitely. But what I actually liked about it was I put it out there. Okay, so this is the final one. This isn't an image. Yeah. Okay, I'm gonna edit this one.

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on the fly to save our own reputation Really? Yes, this was wrong. Other ones were bad. This is a no.

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This is from April 2014. Yeah. And we're going to delete this so people can go back and find it again. The amount of times I've been disappointed with insert one of our current clients food yet still gone back is a joke. Hashtag first world problems.

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I have the I have the company name in my mind. I won't say it. But I do stand by upside again. The amount of times I've been disappointed with our clients food yet still gone back is a joke. Hashtag first world problems. Yeah. No, I I can't remember who it is like I bet I'd put money on who I think it is. Yeah.

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I guess it's a fake. Oh, they've got me is

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Eric is there, Brad? I wouldn't ride that now. Of course not.

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But look, imagine if 711 was a client of ours. Yeah. In a year's time. I fuckin you want to talk about? I feel like you want to talk about so yeah, but I'm definitely deleting that.

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Because I told you I have some incriminating stuff. Yeah. And you're worried that was just like the use of the word guy out of context or whatever. Yeah. I don't know. 2014 it was okay. When 2012 I said in the video. This is something about this is my mate Fitz, he he's gay from the waist down, which was referring to gay guys being great dances and that fits. He's a great dancer, which, when I wrote it, I didn't even think twice about it. But I watched the band as I said that that's waggon Yeah. So I mean, how does it feel standby guy guys are usually amazing dances. I'll stand by that. So I don't know if you have to know if that's a thing that you people are fighting for. But

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With me giving you that information, has it given you any insights into that because you said to me to you like say, Josh, you were with your social media. You were just sort of a train of thought kind of guy just putting shit out. Yeah, that was the

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fuck is this? That was? What did you say that you wrote? I know you. You don't have to say that because you've deleted it. But you told me the tweet.

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even throw you into that hole, but some of the tweets were some of your tweets which I'm not trying to go on one used to say shit like, Brianna and I are getting Mexican tonight looking forward to it. shit like that, but that's probably less offensive. Yeah, so I thought those bits were old standbys, my old thinking of I wouldn't do it now. But I thought it was like an angle. I was trying to get quirky. Like, they've like the Santa thing is on original. Yeah.

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The girls from the races photo that are not wearing their heels anymore not original. Yeah, and the other one was just destructive but don't you also think that with social media that that stuff could easily fly the other way now where it's like that lady without shoes on isn't wearing shoes because she has cancer and then you my friend become an absolute awesome yeah No. But house

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how frightened had like how do we have to live in the resource like live a life of worry about that stuff.

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James conspiracy Jimmy he was saying like he found those old videos that we were talking about the other day you and I working together and I was like really cringe on it. And he's perspective was like owner bro owner. I think you've come so far like he had this this different perspective on it. Which though all those things I could own. I can only

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Everything you've said, Yeah, I could own that brand that I that, you know, personally now work with. Because it's something I thought, it's a bit different when you get in a bit racist, and a bit homophobic. Yeah, and a bit transphobic, all these things like, that's where I think is probably valid that you kind of are cold out. But there's a blurred line about what we've been called out of. If you were, for instance, you know, you were talking the other day about the guy on punt road, which is a common road here in Melbourne. Yes, he was. You described him as off his face. There was something going on there and he was being a danger to other people on the road if he'd had some form of condition. That wasn't drug induced, say someone who's like severely autistic or whatever. Because I made so here's the thing maybe there's like a lot of filtering going on in my head before I even bring something so I felt like I might like I may have been a bit aggressive in that one episode. haven't listened back to the episode.

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Remember what it is?

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Which was no used to you listening right now? But go back to every episode. Yeah.

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No, but I thought about it, how it paints me

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the potential of what was out with that guy, but I then felt so strongly that he should not be on the road. And I based around myself and my thoughts and my wife and my kids, imagine if my baby ran out and this fucking idiot who was driving a radically irresponsibly killed my kid. And so that's where I went with it, which is pretty extreme right? But it gives me justification. Could you give the extreme the opposite with him? So build a case right now, for extreme MDA based on this guy.

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And I kind of did in the moment. I want the autistic thing off the table and you cannot drive. If you have severe autism, you cannot drive if you have severe epilepsy, which these are all just unfortunate, you know, circumstances because there are some able people

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That a class to disabled and contract client that had epilepsy mild and she got her licence taken off. What about this? I mean this is this is where I went. I empathise with the fact that I thought he could be a drug addict still actually employed, who has been on ice all night and is now driving back to his hotel room after spending a day at work and has a family back in Sydney. He was in a high car and he is on the edge. He is thinking about suicide like this is actually what I thought. But then I thought if we excusing people and their situations when it when it actually couldn't affect others. So when people little old grandma or the little old grandpa that the guy I know was driving on ice and killed because he was parked on the side of the road getting out of your car and the dude I know who I grew up with swerved into him and killed him.

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You know, like, that's where I sort of I have this conflicting. And so for that it's like the call I made, I think I think I made the right one because you told what did you say in the moment? Yeah, I went up next to him to inspect more of what was going. I was starting and stopping he was slumped in the car. He was basically falling asleep, didn't have a dance party, and then just like doing this weird shit with his hands, and anyway, I was driving as he was driving. And so then I rolled up next to him, and I could see that he's just like off his face and just said, Oh, you're hating. And he got the biggest front of his life. And he looked over my, and he didn't look like someone who was a drug addict. hypnotising Well, it was well closed in a hiker. And I said, I've called the cops. Yeah, I've reported you to the police. And he's Oh, my. And then I said to Dr. sensibly, and he, he's like, I'm so sorry. Sorry. And he kind of looked like he'd snap back into reality. Yeah. So did I do the right thing or will I regret that in 10 years? I don't know. Well, I was I was on a

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Project a few months ago, and there was an event element of it and one of the ladies who was sort of heading up the tickets for this event, she was like she had to organise all the seats. And

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I thought like our she was she wasn't able to speak properly. And I felt really sad for I was empathising because she looked very stressed. Yeah. And then someone else from the event guys, this chick is fucking offer face, like, Can we get someone else? And so the interesting thing was, I went into Australia, I'd already gone into a place of this person's like, not doing well. I wonder like, she's probably been thrown into this thing. She's not coping. She's got severe anxiety.

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When when do we need genuine?

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Not empathy, because I think can be, have tough love and empathy. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think that

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I'm a good judgement for my situation in that car. But I still stand by Was there an empathetic one? Was there a more empathetic way? It definitely turned back the aggression 80% you make up for dude? Yeah, definitely. And so yeah, because I, it's a church to engage in that situation and I did think about, you know, like maybe I didn't want to choose but I don't know, I was a bit sort of single focused once I started thinking about my child and my wife and will you build up this case? Yeah, hundred percent. I think calling someone like they're off their face just for that, like that circumstance. I've got more of an issue with that without taking slight inquiry. I feel like I take a lot of boxes. When I understand this person's on the road behind the wheel of your car. You know, it's cuz you Don't make excuses for someone who's drinking. I think if we're talking about someone who was had was drunk and behind the

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We'll unacceptable and nothing excuses that even if they down on life and you know, hard done by it's still just like we live in this world where

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we have to consider other people. Is it our job to call that bad behaviour?

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It's the same vein line of thinking around littering, people who, you know, strong feminists, or you know, like yeah, shortly within different categories. Some people take it upon themselves as a mission. Why? I don't know. Why do you because you've you've definitely the littering things. Yeah. chalky rubbish. I fucking you realise why it's as I've gotten older, I've just like thought. I've found it a really selfish thing for someone to do because it is completely lack of considering other people and the environment because I say maybe it's like

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being a dad being a business owner, you know, carving my way in this world where it's like, if I don't do if I don't, if I throw the ball on the road

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that doesn't just miraculously disappear, someone else has to do what I didn't want to do. And that's my thinking around that the rubbish stuff. It's like inconsiderate to others. And so in answering the question, maybe there is like, we we choose these things and sometimes there is probably a reason but we haven't I maybe haven't connected the dots as to why and so you know, I don't know why. Maybe we just Yeah, I don't know why go hard sometimes. And I don't others like I would let a lot of things slide right. Because on the on the other side of the coin, like you've had friends who have gone through a lot gone through substance abuse and come up the other side, who we haven't seen for a long time, but you've felt like you need to be when there's, you know, two years on or whatever. Come back. You feel like

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You need to be there. Yeah. Because I feel like I wonder about those things where it's like, I think I have moments in life where I'm like, I try and help people, if I don't feel like they engage in what I've suggested, or just cut them out, and it's like, yeah, now. Yeah, and I probably have done that families different. Like, you know, I've heard that. Someone say about a family member, if they weren't my family member, I would not be friends with them. I would not be around for them. And so there is there is that I didn't know where I was going with that, but I think it is, but how much empathy do we give to that? I guess like if, if a friend is doing something that you think is out of alignment with what they should be doing?

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Do you feel like it is your job to say something? Do you think a good friend would always say something? Or is talking about that conflicting advice

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Everyone's on their own journey, which is like one. And then the other one being around the, you know, if you really care about them, you do something about it. Yeah. And and it doesn't always work like I think. So there's millions of people that have been drug addicts in this world. And I would say this exact scenario is probably happened many, many, many times. And it had many outcomes. Best mates a bit. a best friend has become a drug addict. And the best friend has said, I'm pulling you into my house. I'm spending the next two weeks with you. We're just we're going to get through this one goes get fact the other goes, you know, the other it saves their life, right? Yeah. And so wait, so you're saying in the same situation, do you have some people who accept it? Yeah, the people who push it away? Yeah. And so I think if for the ones that it works, it doesn't mean don't try this stuff. And I think

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Why would one for insight and maybe they wouldn't another time? It's like I'm trying to think about for me the people in my life that I've done that for. I don't there are some friends that I wouldn't and I don't know the answer to why I wouldn't. Like I would move away from pressure is that there's some sort of tough, tough love that I feel like I sometimes implement where it's like, I'm not dealing with your shit. Like I'm removing myself, which will stop the enabling, like sometimes being involved in being like, yeah, okay, what can we say? Here's the thing. If we were if we had a friend, yeah, and that was your approach to them, that might be exactly what they need. Yeah. And if I'm the friend that says come into my house, that might be exactly what they need. So so how do we know that how do we think we know but I guess there is a part of like, not wanting to be codependent not wanting, like, you know, if you might have a parent that isn't doing well. And you know, I've heard multiple cases.

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Words like, you know, I've decided to disconnect from my mom or my dad because of, you know, substance abuse or you know, alcoholism that they're not doing anything about. What's the responsibility Do we have as people that are connected with someone who's going through that to do something? Yeah. Well, Nicole, who we've had on this podcast, it was in jail chopper, right? Yes, the cell ex heroin addict. Always still an addict just hasn't done heroin for nearly 20 years. And he runs a Rehab Centre helping hundreds of people get through what he has

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an out the other side successfully, but he was saying he used the phrase letting go with love, which is a horrible concept when you really love somebody a family members, a drug addict, and you cannot do anything because they self sabotage or they need to help themselves. And he said it's a real strategy. That is that is one why if

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Otherwise don't work letting go with love. And that is finding it in yourself to actually let go and just love them for their fault their flaws in their fucking addiction and because they need to get through that. And so that is one way. I think there's probably multiple ways. It's not like addiction and things in this world, it's

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not good enough to just push it. If everyone pushed everything away and didn't didn't, didn't actually engage with it and try and help. It would be disastrous, but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't do what you're saying is like, don't engage. Yeah, it's not your problem. Someone else will deal with it. Someone else probably will. Because not everyone is saying someone else's problem. Because there's both like my back and pulling you up for flicking the cigarette. But

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it's a

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difficult thing. And I don't know why we engage with the things we do all the time that they're built over our experiences and stuff. Because it's only because I think sometimes we see people as project. So we said look

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Sometimes we're projecting our own thing that we can help them or that we're going to change, you know someone, but it's a just think about looking at this in the street and you see someone that's got, you know, got substance abuse issues or whatever it is. It's like, you've probably you've got, you know, those people have close family members who have obviously made some form of decision maybe to let go with love. And where does that leave them within a community context? Yeah. Oh, man, I I was watching Jordan Peterson. doing one of these live streams talking about he had this father that fucking right through about suicide, and about his young daughter who had killed herself. And Jordan Payson was crying on this fact that it was so moving, because he's got severe depression throughout his family and suicide and he was just saying, sometimes you cannot help

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them, sometimes there's no way to help them. And that's coming from a dude who knows the brain better than the majority of people in this world. He's out there with the you know, the greats in the psychology clinical psychologist space. And that is fact thinking about that. I think I just worry about the extremes I worry about extreme individualism and I worry about extreme codependency where we're just worried about what everyone's thinking and concerned and other people shit rather than dealing with their own. Well, there's projecting it's multi layered stuff going on your life your experiences, what's happened in the past, because I think blocking people out and shutting people off is its own thing is its own thing. It's a part of what you've experienced in your life. And

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and so that's just your journey. It's not right or wrong. Yeah, it's true, because you might have a mate like Big Five became a bit of fucking junkie. Yeah, you put me in line and it was the only way to help like

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a storey

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Welcome to the podcast.

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Daily Show you'd have to show well maybe we could do 24 hours shows if you're on is really double down. Tommy 24 hour livestream you haven't D'Ambra what would what would we change that Friday's to that joint Friday's that joint know

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where we going on Friday. Tomorrow is Friday and we've got a new show benchmark where every Friday we go somewhere and have some form of food that will inevitably make us fat. Yeah, yeah, but then we get chiselled on the weekend we fast little bit of Billy Mia. All the above where we gonna go? Yeah, I'm not sure yet. I will work it out. Because it's coming on weeks. Do you think? Yeah. So let's just work it out. Now. We've got we've done donuts.

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We've done burgers. Yeah, we can't do donuts, burgers. We need to do something that's either like on the six shakes or something. I still that's around the time.

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Not space. Do you think you get it done? You get the shakes that donut joins. So I'm trying I'm trying to go what's what's that makes a difference?

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Should we try not time shakes? What about donuts on shakes? I know donuts. Checks and donuts that's so fucking dumb decide what you just don't want this is what this is me off you make out like you're putting a case sort of like well we can't have shakes

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wait It's sweet It's too sweet. That's the whole thing was to the donuts. Have a savoury like to close to burgers? Yeah, true. That's what I mean by calling it off. No, you bring up a case and then you create some fucking, we couldn't possibly do that. Like why strollers we can't use drones maybe we could go for a drive and find like an old he can eat like a like a Pizza Hut or you can eat Thai old school. Hi the daily talk show calm is it is just a

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After 4pm here in Melbourne, tomorrow will be eating somewhere I guess we'll probably do it around midday. So guys, if you're listening now and it's before midday on Friday, let us know where in Melbourne should we have something to it? Yeah. And hey, send it through anyway if you if you miss it, because we've got more Fridays to come. We want to be fatty so and you international listeners maybe just submit categories of food and donuts, the same show. Definitely not a fact that talk show so I at the daily talk show.com if you want to send us an email, we say tomorrow Bye