- February 19, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Monday Feb 19 (Ep 25) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett.
Tommy isn’t happy with Alf Stewart from Home & Away, scam calls, Josh receives an unexpected FaceTime, we talk about death again and more!
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It's the daily talk show and it is Monday and it's Episode 25 yeah we're in a quarter of a half of a century it's um. It's exciting is we are NCD we're fucking Singapore number calling you know when the old a scams that have been popping
we'd one let me just have a quick look it was like new New Guinea
Guinea j UI NEA set and you get a part of getting different thing anyway it's a random number
yeah well I just had my watch vibrating. I've missed a call from plus 65687 679
when I get anyone. Scammers. Yeah,
of course I would. I am. It's a numbers game, right? They just going hard and they've been going really hard. This scam seems to be pretty prevalent.
It's definitely I think I would have done that on radio. Have you been scammed? Do you know anyone's been scammed? Now, other than my store? Yeah. But I mean, that's like you were just buying a product I mean like totally fleeced of cash like
have any cash to be placed not no I don't think I'm just buying shit I don't need maybe for all people yeah,
that's who they prey on yet. It is like can you open up window Who was it? It was it you know I was kill my might kill wolf who I lived within Chevron. Yeah, he can pull the wool over these decades. Is it called him and they were like are Sir, can you please we're calling from Telstra Can you please open up your browser because we need to access it to help you fix your internet and he knew exactly what was going on and he led them on for ages and he and he was saying to have you open the browser and he's gay Can you type in this address okay Have you typed in game I've talked it in can't see anything what's and they're saying because they obviously can see as soon as you access it yeah and they kept don't go if you done it to get I'm here What do you mean there's nothing and then they got the bloody supervisor anyway they end up working out that he was fucking with them and they said fuck you and hang up well
yeah I used to love fucking around with the telemarketers saying how long I could do you hang up on the my wife. And I saw her do it last week, she answered. And they said hello. And then she hung up. And she was always really like, Oh, yes. Fancy. Because I would just like answer he them hang up. Or I'd say sorry. Not interested in hanging out going. That's
fine. It's annoying when they try and pretend like they're not that like they're not doing sales calls. But tell me this is our very first interstate episode. Yeah, it's on the road, baby. This is exciting. We're in the abyss. Ibis. Ibis Darling Harbour not a plug
it's a we've got a two two bedroom two bed set up. Yeah. And I joke that it's like assigned to my client were up here filming something. And we just got Tommy on board for a day. I didn't even tell the client and just before we get into the hotel, I said Now look, I've got a Tommy helping out on day one. And just explain that it wasn't like the movie battle of the sexes where she has her hairdresser following around.
Can I just tell you the most awkward story right because if I knew that you'd only just told her you know probably would have felt a bit awkward but it's got through it and I just cuz she was the girl was very jokey with it. Oh yeah, sure. Like it was like you know, I felt report that the joke was this I was like Oh, the headdress and I was like you know obviously talked yeah I tried to while ago
I flew up to Sydney This was when I was 1918 flu up to see do with a mate and we were going to stay said my mates got this amazing place and double by far it's like fucking $9 million house on the water. He's got a boat that in a on a private jet. He will go out you know, he's invited as up a suede got there.
He hadn't told the dude fact that even I was coming along that that used to happen to me as a kid all the time with our pool like pay for just fucking rock up and then have three other mates who I didn't even know the classic
pool thing to do. I fucking hate that. And they don't even bring towels and shit. That other piece model your mom would a mom wouldn't. Mum has a poll now and still does a bit of the fucking Tao chat. It's like I'll just bring your towels it's I felt so awkward. In that situation. I was like and I was young and I didn't feel confident after say whoa, hang on guys. Did you not know I was coming? You know it's like it's like now I would speak up and
what did you do in the moment is fucking like acted like a daycare. like Yo, I knew there was a chance of going out and Sydney Harbour on a private your fucking hung in there and got the outcry. And, and what was the vibe? Like he was really not really lovely. We all went out to dinners and it was great. Can you remember the When did you find handle
it? So you've gone on a fly all the way they got to the front door? This dude's house? What was it? What's you might steal loose cannon hockey. How sad is not ideal. It's Christ. All right. There's something I want to bring up. Yeah.
You know who Ray Mar is
right? Yeah, he's the Is he the the flaming dude yeah, yeah, you're gonna bring up he's new chilly. So okay.
Yes. I'm gonna wring out re mine. Otherwise known as Alf Stewart from home and away if you grew up in Australia and you're sort of between the ages of 23 up ya know about fucking hammering away and Ryan ma I can I love what he's what he's out Stuart Stuart he was like a just a lunatic flying cars we are in the movie on the fucking fishing shop or something something tackle shop and it was mad or the diner some bullshit
never turned a profit somehow get running anyway he was a real hot head right if you haven't watched I'm sure you have any I he's got a new hot sauce and so I just saw the Instagram must have been a sponsored post and I clicked on to as I get the fuck out he re man is good he's doing hot sauce and it's called flaming it's so it's taking him so long to do this I wonder if I'm in a white one boy you don't know so this is going somewhere oh great so this like you know me I fucking sad getting into all this shit investigate like you I'm becoming a bit more like you in terms of like so I was impressed and start
yanking fuck is this good idea dude standing a product yeah using flaming the homeowner white very clever ended so that was the first thing I thought was I wonder like, because it sees character right? Yeah. And so I was wondering today have like, tried monkeys.
I hadn't thought about that way to go down. So I've just seen on their Instagram on it's cold raise flaming hot sauce. They've had 14 posts almost at 4k followers. Yeah. And this is the description rainbows flaming hot sauce public figure and it's got a whole bunch of little chilies. reckon you can handle the flaming hate question mark grab a bottle of my limited edition hot sauce hashtag raise flaming hot sauce and then it has the website address race flaming hot sauce.com day you okay yeah. Never clicked on it uh huh. just kept seeing the posts come in it's like one of them's like it's coming there's a video like listen to him
I did I watch this video he's dancing in it and shady but it will sell out it's so
daddy fucking for sale at White for the punch line okay I'm waiting just saw his last fucking post this is hang on hang on and then she
that it's a whole it's
a whole GoDaddy campaign to
fucking GoDaddy piece of content good on him I went on to raise flaming hot sauce as soon as I saw that I was so pissed off Can you still buy the hot sauce they look I've just clicked onto the website takes you to go daddy's website or even routed to his website and so you just click on that I literally just and I only just before doing this clicked on to this and actually had a thorough look because I jumped on I was so pissed off that I've been taken to go daddy yeah from this fucking liver fucking marketing claim move on it's not fucking honest. Yeah and we talked about this around honest content yeah and how like the only reason I'm talking about this and I'm annoyed about this is because I feel like I was laid on for this funny idea I think you should be annoyed at I can write whatever he's nine Ma Ma
is all that he did say hey right he's like he's the one that's fucking said it was okay. Yeah.
And so I did click on to it now you can and it's all about try website builder for free builder website. in under an hour. It's flame and easy. You don't have to be a tech savvy to build a website with GoDaddy. It's flaming easy, so it's all about like them localizing this type of content. I think it's very clever actor and entrepreneur, Ray, Mr. has turned his famous catchphrase into the best flaming hot sauce around and he couldn't believe that 60% of all the small businesses don't have a website so he got a hot site of his own and now you're fucking just plugging him this is our first sponsored a you actually sponsored by inception.
The I was saying to me I think our first sponsor I want to be easy, the words or Kohl's and all I want them to sponsor us with is like a country deal where they give us fizzy water yeah cuz it's like what 75 cents a show live if we could have like two bottles per app yeah will be bourbon oh yeah I love fizzy water at drink all of it and Bray always picks you up on it so I
can look I get you going off track by bottle so you can actually click on a button on the on this shitty website they take you two and it takes you to another website that actually is raised flaming hot sauce and you can buy a bottle at 12 bucks
we get it and you get it but now I'd like it
is it detrimental to do a marketing campaign and I know you're not we will Anderson from grew and transfer to give us a fucking amazing I
always more just the host every year I'm more like your Russell
Russell like you're inside Sampson old take timestamps because I feel like you You get a bit hurt by some of these marketing campaign. I think
what do I think we spend most of our data during the week thinking about how to approach marketing from a from a content perspective of video creation perspective with our own businesses. Yeah. And so this campaign was salt would have been sold in from the creative director or agency that's like, you know, this is great. I liked I think it's a great idea him doing the product. Yeah. But then it just I think misses the bait when they attach website building GoDaddy to it. That it just it had a bit too much impact with the idea of the flaming hot sauce to then kick you in the dig when you go through and you feel just conned well i
i think you just have to also look at the DNA of businesses GoDaddy specifically and known for smarty advertising whatsoever. They they are the sort of the booth girls of TV sees. So for instance, their Super Bowl commercials would have women in bikinis. And like that, so it's
like the dodo internet ads of Yeah, those Dodo internet? Yeah, yeah.
Running through. I do remember to say, I know the girl. Kylie Kylie, if you're listening, she was one of the dodo gills 10 years ago. That's, that's cool
to know what my one of my favorite if we can talk nostalgia alert. haven't done that in a while. The the ad that I think of a bit, which is sort of had that cut through was, do you remember? virgin mobile's and now what was it? wiki wiki, Warren Ida. Remember, it was I he was sort of now you don't remember that? If you remember. Can you please reach out to us via at the daily talk? show.com talking about people that we know and talking about home and away? Yeah, I got a FaceTime from Isa, an old friend of mine who from Eric days where, you know, so from we did a filmmaking course together in 2004 at open channel, which is like independent filmmakers. Victoria Yeah, and we both had each other on MSN afterwards, some would stay in contact. And then we did a VC a course in 2006 together contained flicks and she ended up going on to being a big Home and Away stashed away and she FaceTime to me the other day,
and it was just fucking re mom.
So I it has been since I had seen her, it would have been probably 2006 mistaken. Nice time. Yeah, we would you answer if you got a FaceTime or someone you hadn't seen in what, like
12 years, I didn't know I actually couldn't give you a straight answer. Because it's one of the things sometimes, like if I was feeling a bit off, and I just be like, that's weed, but sometimes I'd be like, take a breath. And just like
this is gonna be Yeah, well, I thought that because initially, I was like, you know, what may be given she's in the entertainment industry. I've got a bunch of friends who are in similar circles. I'm like, maybe she's in a room with one of them. And they've just connected that they know that probably. Yeah. And it's like, oh, doing a big FaceTime. So I was going to answer but I The moment I was like, You know what, I'm not going to. So I sent her a text and said, Hey, sorry, I missed your face time.
I was just wanting to know if it was a button dial or if you wanted to chat
AI that is something I can I can find the exactly exactly I couldn't stand the very Josh it wasn't meant it was something like that. But the business at the front you know, I'm actually going to bring it up so I did get a response from her. Yeah, that was uh, here we go. is about g show tonight is about it is it is about a lot is about I code it is up is about g of and does not. So
you can look her up anyway. So this is why right. Why I said Isa,
was this a FaceTime, but dial or just a random five. FaceTime hang out for a Saturday the why Hope you're doing right. Fact. That was way worse than what you told me. Why I feel like I've been conned again with ice what
what's why is that worse? It's what it was so much in it. What you what you told us was like brief our mission about Hey, was that about dollars? Yes. I put a bit more energy into it right back for our slide. So great. How are you? What's going on man? New Message from her. Look. You know what I was trying to say? Sorry. fucked up. Look. You know what? I was trying to contact another Josh but glad I code you hope you're. Well tell me. Where are you? Where are you at this time? He's not with us to say I mean Abbotsford. Blah, blah, blah. going on. What about you? And then didn't hear anything
but yeah, it just when you were talking about hang on home and away you it triggered this memory that happened to me last month? Dude I know her to more clearly not as well.
No. So I've I've hung out with her because she was married to that dude Ford my one of my best mates our brother our Charlie Sure. Yeah. Ah. I went to school high school with Charlie Oh fuck. And so I don't no longer together I don't think I saw no longer together but yeah, it has been revealed that Isabel America filmmaker boyfriend Charlie forward in Melbourne early this year to start out with Charlie given he does filmmaking stuff I don't know if he's back in Melbourne. He was living in Sydney and Melbourne Sydney now we were mates in high school and shit and because I was best friends with Ford he's brought we'd hang out and stuff
but yeah that's crazy I was just looking at some videos that Charlie put up tonight fucking small world dude it Is that funny thing of like It's a small world I guess that time in a while some of it is a small place yeah
I went to I went to with her and Charlie yeah and it was like I was pissed when I made an fucking we went to a house party with all these home and you invited I was plus one of form factor now but we
it wasn't his fault that took you on the boat with these rich man was not for he wouldn't do something he's dog is that
we've both crashed some boat party together that's what we would have done as kids but yeah we went to a home and iPod with all these I'm going away goons. That's fun. Name is none of them. Because it was like I watch I went away as a kid. And Johnny refers on him in a way. That's very sad anymore.
That's Did you hear what happened with him with the Brian cancer and stuff? Yeah, the Instagram. What a fucked up thing to happen. Poor girls. All of a sudden, one day Have you fucking skull open? Do you ever worry about big shit like that? Do you ever get a migraine and be like, maybe it's something that it's like, goo. Don't be a Google doctor. But then there's like times where
you do end up looking and finding stuff out. Yeah. And going to the doctor. And so I get this. I always have this fit. Like, I would feel my neck and I'd like to feel like a little lump. And Frank. I think it's like my fucking. I think everyone has it. You've got like a gland. Awesome. Glad. But no, I definitely have at times but it's fact it's a it's a hard world to live in. If you just constantly thinking about that. But you definitely were talking about this earlier we def I differently. Now having a kid and married Think about that. Think about losing. Like, if I go What? Then it's like, I feel the pain of my partner. Right. Yeah. And the thought of Bodie, not going out with me is fucking makes me feel like wanna cry right now. But it's a slow full on, right. And it's like, I was not like that before. At all. I wasn't emotional like that. But it's like, what it does to us full on. Yeah,
fuck that. It's a It feels like with everything that's happening in the world. It is very easy to go in those places. And just thinking about like, I was thinking about, I haven't had, I've had the classic people die in my life. Right. Right. The people who have you know, in sort of, you know, respects a meant to die. The grandparents. Yeah, right. The older people, but I've never had, I haven't had my parents die. I haven't like, and just the thought of all of that just is very overwhelming. It's surreal, right? Yeah.
And I've had friends whose parents have passed away and I can't imagine it. They can't imagine what it'd be like. It's a don't think it's not reality. Until reality, your reality you the thought of bad stuff happening is not like the feeling of bad stuff happening. Even though I'd like you might get close to the feeling. But it's like when somebody sees
you, in some ways, because you
will have an ability to adapt. Yeah, but I think that the feeling is obviously one of complete overwhelm, or not being able to cope. It's like grace, if you filtered I haven't
know severe grief. And that's what it's like. And even
news you look at news and stuff and you say people dying in car accidents when they're young. That's fucked up. Yeah.
I think this is
it's slightly different time I said this and this was I said this to Richard you know, Richard from the office so like, Oh, yes. Where I've got my office there's a bunch of really classmates all around me with businesses and so I went in and I said this statement and Richards response. I'll tell you the statement in the second Richard's responses factor. How many lives have you live?
The statement was
Dude, I was like guys said this fucking epiphany The closer you get to success
the closer you are died of failure and it's like
I didn't even know if he said he only explain it right. Okay. And I haven't told you this. Okay, you haven't. So I will. I was going for the funding for I've been working on doing this TV show with ITV and my production company. Certainly I've worked really hard on it's like a regional concept of mine and it's a documentary series that's just a brief background but we were going for funding with Screen Australia so you can tell me something about that
yeah. As you've been I only tell you and I've been in the fucking loop I was like day dot fucking helping you. With Jovian waiting to hear back. Did we get the funding and you got green Australia? You got the the latest thing was exciting letter from Can we say this? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I bc basically saying, Hey, we can throw a bit of cash at this always like, we know later interest. So basically saying, Hey, we're interested. If another if another organization like screen, ours will put some funds behind it will we could make it work. So
it's like, fucking closer to success than ever, right? Yeah,
we didn't get the funding.
Okay. So I told you that I sort of semi
Well, when you started telling me this story might have me that you started talking about crowdfunding
together? Because I did. It's so funny that in the moment, I wasn't like, what about you? big fucking deal? Yeah.
What did I say? That main screen? Australia don't give you much. They can't give you feedback at this time. Because they're going through so many ideas. That's what this is. A mouse was
ITV like, sorry, man. It's all over. No, no, they're still going to keep on
looking at stuff. So the dudes I'm dealing with it haven't been around there. I would say it's. Yeah. Anyway, my thought around it was like, Fuck, I've literally the closer you get to having the success, you're actually getting closer to failure than before. Because when you haven't started, you can't really be failing. You haven't really failed. Yeah, haven't done shit. Well, you've got nothing to lose until you build something. And so this has been like a 678 month process. And it's like it I've been getting closer and closer and closer. And it's like the this the failure is getting closer and closer and closer. And there's no difference. It's like it could just win. Or it might not. It's like you getting closer to knowing your fate, essentially. And so
yeah, if you think you had a right if you think about doing a 400 meters so you've got people who won't fat won't feel that failure because I won't even get on the track. And yeah, this is the person who are these at the Olympics and facts themselves, you know, yeah.
And so this really reflective mood after as fucking talking to the boys told him about it. What do you mean the boys I am? He's just waiting around. When was it last? Last week? Last week was late
last week. And we would have had a podcast No, because
I wanted to actually bring this up because I like talking you about this kind of shit. Yeah, like, and I was just thinking about the success and it's like, it's such a fucking like, of course, the closer you get the guy with the big business, it could lose everything. Yeah, he's losing more than everybody the billionaire more money, more problems. But as you can see that there's like a fucking felt that and I was like, it made me feel a bit fucking scared. Right? It's like, more success I get the more failure is just rated of rip my decal. Yeah.
Now, how do you how do you mitigate these things? Do you think
so? prevented from happening? Yeah. I don't know if you can or not prevent it. But how do you how do you deal with it? How do you how do you deal with it? emotionally? Yeah, get real deep. Fucking a cat totally on this shit. start reflecting. But no idea. I felt I felt a bit shit. But then I a couple of things. I was like, fuck. This is the being picked. waiting for someone to tell you the good news that you got the funding. Yeah. And I felt a bit like that. Then I was like, Fuck, it's like, I couldn't go out and do this. My own. Like, I start fucking going down that rabbit hole of like, next option. Next option. Next option. What else? What else? What else? Which
maybe it's not the right response. Maybe it's not the thing you need to do right now. Yeah. Seth Godin.
He always talks about being picked specifically in his book, poke the box. But he actually has a new podcast out.
Oh, how is it awesome. I refer refer to somebody with the recommendation from us, to me, I pass it on to them, dude, Seth Godin new bloggers that it's lacking, right? Yeah, it came by and he talks about
it just like a monologue him talking. It's almost like a free audiobook. It's great. And he talks about being picked. It's a very, very good in in Akiba. Yeah. And Kimbo means Yeah, okay. I am be Oh, yeah. It's it's something around like been, he's been in fact and quirky can about it. He's like, saying like, Oh, yeah, it's a Kimbo. It's weed and I'm, we'd
be talking about this fucking weird. That's a weird, you know, I would like to be him when he's when I'm older. Like that sort of stuff. Golden on our podcast. Yeah, that would be fun. That's the mission. Okay. Yeah.
Back in recent. Yes. So back
in. I can't remember what episode maybe 10 ago. I Josh, I sit, Josh, I said, I'm gonna sit you a challenge. And I'm gonna think about who I want you to get on the podcast because you're crafty motherfucker. You can you find people's details. And you've been sending you saying Gary Vee who is one of the biggest entrepreneurs in the world today an email 12 years ago
yeah, it was a while ago like it was like fucking I use a guy but he was nobody there like yeah, maybe not as many people knew him. I mean the thing is that all these things expanded super interesting is that how so Seth Godin says you know I've emailed him a bunch and he's a mommy back I was looking at he's got a pro he he leaves on hunts it's called like off the hunts and then he looks at Yeah,
Juna fly over.
That could be that could be fun. would fly will just so you know. quad block. Yeah. The Five Nights. Yeah. Robbie Ward and see if I had a radio show. Yeah. And I had the desk with all the sound effects loaded or I'd have the quite lock clicking.
They they actually use another fun way. stay on track. Yeah, this is about the guys
this would have been 2012 they won a Shopify award, Shopify Shopify, Small Business Awards sick and they were flown to New York City, and they hung out with that guy. That's cool. So yeah, I wonder I should check to them say what he was like. I try see the thing you gathering Intel. To be clear, I tried to get Seth Godin on my podcast back in 2013 on my Josh speaking podcast, because I'd actually just quit the radio station and I sent him a message saying Hi, I am I actually quit my
my job because listening to your listening to your audio book, The Icarus deception, which is a great book yet, but I think that's a good one, isn't it? Because it's a challenge, right? Yeah,
I don't, he doesn't go and everyone's now he's pretty charging money to do talks. But I think that's a really good one. I think it is because he'd be very interesting. is the one proud of this episode, I reckon. Yeah, hopefully. Actually. probably think we're about to date. Yeah, maybe. I mean, I didn't say it was a quirky, can't deny, which
awesome. Yeah, I may not be or four. I'm just looking at all the
emails that I've sent
to, you know, can I read you? This is gonna fucking embarrass me, but I'll do it anyway. Because, you know, I love an embarrassment. Yeah, you don't need to put on a voice because you are George Jetson 20 sorry, this was when I sent the email for him to be on my podcast.
It was on the sixth of the second 2013. At what time? Okay, good question.
I mean, not that mad at 11pm, which would wane like morning over in America? Probably. Yeah,
probably. Did you think about that? No. Anyway, good. Seth.
I didn't even say hey, Seth. Say In fact, I'm being serious. Seth, your book, your love this subject line. No longer a cog in the machine.
He talks a lot about being a cog Seth, your book, Icarus deception gave me the confidence to no longer be the cog in the machine and gave me permission in my mind to quit my job and no longer be defined by my role in big media company in Australia in IBM maybe I'm not full Empty Trash I am in the US in June and July traveling around la San Fran. Cisco New York City I've begun to ramp up my love project Josh baking a podcast where I interview interesting people to deconstruct their success keeping in mind this fucking podcast is prior to Tim Ferriss stuff they construct it it's very fancy like you think about what he talked about with these language is basically got the same sort of podcast is what I had but fucking built it up to do is written three books for children with which is which I reckon if you look at his books, was all about deconstructing people success, so I sort of like borrowed from his book thing. Anyway, I said, I would, I would love to interview you. I know you're extremely busy. However, I just thought I would ask the question. It would be 45 to 60 minutes at the location time of your choice. I'm in New York City from June 23 to July 2. Thanks for inspiring me. Seth response. Thanks for Josh. And congratulations. I won't be able to do the interview but I wish you the best Seth garden
your responded to. And then. So I went on at and just like I said, I've been rated the fact and respond
I just said, thanks so much for the response. If I'm torn as I respect you a lot and don't want to be annoying, but is it a timing thing or just a blanket rule. I've interviewed some great people in Australia and would love the opportunity to interview Josh sent from I didn't get response from that. But in saying that
many correspondent tough to woods
with the lawyers. So
that was really nice. Now, he was super nice. He now. Yeah,
it was and I think what you did with that email is you took his books and wrote an email to him that he thought he'd want to hear. Yeah, you thought he would want to hear based around these books, because a lot of that wording Kong all that shit is like thing,
but I did go the other way. I don't know it's up to you. I think what I'd be able to use is I him and I have actually gotten, I think, semi close to working together in some capacity where it was like, he does a program called the old MBA. And I talked to him about doing video stuff. And we had half a dozen emails back and forth about me doing work and trying to find that opportunity. He he actually watched my film I made in Pakistan and was really complimentary about that. And so yeah, there was actually a potential opportunity which didn't end up going anywhere. But I feel like this has been an email relationship over sort of, could be five or six years has led to the dynamic talk show exactly was until maybe that's why this f go to our first guest. Yeah, sorry. Sick, be pretty fun. I mean, so now I just need to work out how to seal the deal. All right. Well, I'll let you go to bed. Alright, thanks. My I mainly. Yeah, it's a Sydney it's. We're in Sydney. It's been fun. What? How long? We've got like, 36 minutes. That's nice.
Let's wrap it up. Yeah,
I think it's great. And just very quickly on the weather in Sydney. Just very quickly. McGee is fuck.
All right. For the North ego. The more Maggie again that's that's true, isn't it? Well, yeah,
Queensland go to bar and completely different weather fact. We're on the way there again. Love ya. Bye.