Inside a rubber ducky

Tommy: Wait a minute! Crossface! The Daily Talk Show, a conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Janson and Tommy Jacklin.

Josh: The Daily Talk Show episode 182. TJ, what's—

Tommy: hello, what, what? Sorry, sorry to interrupt. You are in Greece. I'm in St. Kilda in Melbourne. What's hello in Greek?

Josh: I was just going to say we're only a couple of episodes away from the US is what I was going to say.

Tommy: Well, you can kind of tell because we're both throwing out intros and we pretty much just want to be in the same room so we can make sense of what we're saying to each other.

Josh: Well, I don't want to do the hello in Greece because that's very much Hamish and Andy, the beginning of their show, that's their shtick. They do every single episode, they say hello in a different language.

Tommy: I've missed that whole bit, even though I've listened to their show for years over the time.

Josh: Well, over the years, it's only just, it's been a thing since they've been doing the podcast because they're doing over international audiences.

Tommy: Ah, true.

Josh: I don't— I mean, Greece is one of those places where I haven't— I've been a dumb tourist and haven't really learned the language. But I mean, we wouldn't get away with that in a lot of places.

Tommy: We touched on it yesterday, souvlaki, and I forgot to mention the reason I even brought up the word souvlaki yesterday was because I wanted to see if you had noticed that they don't sell lamb souvlakis anywhere.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Have you noticed?

Josh: Yeah, we've been, uh, switching between pork and chicken.

Tommy: Yeah. And then I got told that the chicken one is most likely turkey by somebody. It's like, it could be cheaper.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: But I don't know, you know, people do throw out—

Josh: I love turkey. I always— if someone said what's more premium, chicken or turkey, I would always say turkey is more premium.

Tommy: Yeah, I'd say that. Maybe, maybe in America because they eat a lot more turkeys.

Josh: Thanksgiving.

Tommy: And I mean, we don't really have anything where we're just smashing turkeys.

Josh: There's no— Turkey's definitely not a— you don't eat turkey during the week. It's a general rule.

Tommy: I mean, there's no charcoal turkeys around.

Josh: You'd be fucking tweaked. Yeah.

Tommy: You're gonna go get some turkey and chips.

Josh: You'd be a bit tweaked if you were. I like the, um, what are the— what's the deal with the turkey log? I think that's like, we're pretty, um, bogan in the Jansen household, and we have like a turkey— I think it's a turkey log that we have for Christmas, maybe. It sounds fucking disgusting. Yeah, but it's not like the, you know, like the gross turkey strips.

Tommy: Yes.

Josh: Like, as I've gotten older, I can't do like Strasburg and all those sorts of things. Like, anything too processed just makes me want to gag.

Tommy: What about Smiley Face Meat? Did you— have you seen that?

Josh: No. Oh, I'm guessing it's like Strasbourg.

Tommy: Yeah, I think. Yeah, it's something like Strasbourg and it's in like a—

Josh: I've never said Strasbourg before. I don't think I always have said Stras.

Tommy: I remember the kids at school that had Stras sandwiches. It was on white bread. It just, it tastes bizarre. It's a weird food.

Josh: It's probably not far off Spam. In some regards. It's what it actually is.

Tommy: Fancy Spam. That's what we call it from now. Are you eating fancy Spam?

Josh: Well, I wonder if it— I mean, to be honest, I haven't seen anyone in the flesh eating Straz since probably 2003.

Tommy: Yeah. You don't make friends with people who eat Straz anymore.

Josh: No, no.

Tommy: So, you pointed out that my son now looks about 17.

Josh: Yeah, especially when he wears big hats.

Tommy: Yeah, that was a very cute photo. My wife posted a photo on her Instagram of Bodhi wearing this hat, but he does, he looks old. He's like, he's only 19 months, but he's starting to look really old. And we still, I mean, we still have baths together at night and it's a fun time.

Josh: But what you, I was going to say, you're sort of implying as if he's like, you know, he gets funny about his pubes and being in the bath with dad. Dude. How old has he got?

Tommy: I mean, for any people out there that are listening that aren't parents, it's a, it's an interesting experience, um, starting to change your 19-month-old son's nappy and he's just got, he's got a little boner. It's, it's the—

Josh: Well, because it reminds me of the storey your brother tells of you.

Tommy: Oh, that was—

Josh: When, um, for people who haven't heard that episode, when Tommy was younger, he got a boner and basically freaked out, and he was screaming, and his dad had to take him outside with a hose and spray cold water to try and sort out the issue.

Tommy: He had to hose down my boner. Thankfully, I don't remember it, so yeah, that's—

Josh: Oh, that's good.

Tommy: That's a win for me.

Josh: It will come out though. It will be I'm sure you'll be sitting with the therapist and they're like, I just don't understand. Like every single time I do the cold shower method as a way to relax, I just start screaming. Yeah. Yeah. I've got a boner. I wonder what it is.

Tommy: It's, uh, no idea. Because I always think about these things, uh, like as a, as a young parent, there's probably a lot of stuff that isn't vocalised between parents. Like it's a weird thing, you know, like Yeah, I guess people are sensitive around seeming, you know, a bit creepy talking about their children's, you know, private parts. But it's a legit thing that I'm handling and having to deal with. And you literally have to because you can't, you can't just like— it's— he gets morning wood. That's what he gets. It's a classic. It's what I get. You know, it's what you get. It's what most males—

Josh: Classic rooster.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Well, how are you saying like you're talking about my body like we're very close, like, like you get. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, no, you're right, we all do.

Tommy: And I, um, and just, just to give you some detail, you've got to push it down so he doesn't piss up out of his nappy. It's a, it's a bizarre process. Anyway, I don't know where I was going with that. I just needed— I felt like I needed to get that off my chest because it was— it's, it's an unusual experience, um, when you first—

Josh: Do you think that— what age do you think you're like— I think that the questions that people ask is around like, do you think you'll ever get to a point where you're like, ah, I don't, you know, like all these different steps, like him seeing, like just being able to walk in while you're taking a dump.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Like when does that stop?

Tommy: I don't, I'm not sure yet. 'Cause he's starting to gauge.

Josh: You're in Collingwood, are you? What's going on? Is that a police car?

Tommy: That was, no, fire engine guys. Seems like they're okay. Yep, they're not— they're pulling over just near my house. That's exciting. Um, perfect.

Josh: Great.

Tommy: Yeah, I'm not too sure yet because he, he's starting to gauge things, but then I like a good, you know, a good gag, so I wouldn't mind him. Like, it's— I think it's funny. Kids find things funny. Like, he looks at Amy's boobs and like points and laughs. I don't know why. Like, what is he finding funny?

Josh: So it'd be good for body, body image.

Tommy: But he even looks at— he points to my penis as well and he laughs and sort of goes in to try and, like, if you're in the bath, you'll try and like hit it. It's like they are so aware of the things that they shouldn't be doing, but they don't know that they're not meant to be doing. Well, I'm telling you, there's a, the fire truck has just pulled up right behind me. That's, I am, this could be a bit of an investigation.

Josh: So Tommy's in St. Kilda right now near his house.

Tommy: Should I get out and go have a look? Yeah, like I can, I can take my computer.

Josh: Yeah, perfect.

Tommy: So this is an on-the-ground investigation.

Josh: This is huge. So TJ has his, uh, big mic attached to his laptop, and so he's got to be very careful that he doesn't disconnect the USB. Yeah, that's what's going on.

Tommy: You can hear me? And Yeah, all right, good. All right, I'm getting out the fire truck. It might be a bit of wind here. I'll block it.

Josh: Explain what's going on.

Tommy: Okay, so I'm just in the— in this street, there's two fire trucks and nothing happened. Oh, they're in a house. They're in a house across the road. An old lady lives there. She's got a big poodle.

Josh: Oh no.

Tommy: Um, but there's no—

Josh: because they do— they don't just do fires. They can also do if someone's had a heart attack.

Tommy: Well, there's no fire coming from the house, so I'm getting back into the car. I can't see anything.

Josh: Yeah, it's probably— Yeah, good idea. The— That was an interesting thing. When I was working at the fire brigade in the media department, that's one thing that a lot of people don't know. I think it's a common thing around the world. They're called first responders. So, it also happens with things like SIDS and stuff like that. So, there's been a whole education thing where it's like, if you're— if all of a sudden, um, you know, a baby stops breathing or stuff like that, there's a good chance that the fireys might actually come to your house. And sometimes, because parents are distressed, they freak out and said, oh, you know, I was gonna say I ordered the fucking— but, you know, like, I called. It's like an Uber Eats order. Yeah, this isn't what I ordered. But no, um, they get frustrated because they think that, you know, they've fucked it. But no, the fireys have had all the training on resuscitation and all that sort of shit as well.

Tommy: Yeah, they're very capable. So I was mentioning that, you know, Bodhi and I have little baths together and he's got a rubber ducky and this thing. And what I noticed on this rubber ducky was that it had a date on it. And I was confused. Yeah, just, well, it has like, um, you know, it has like the, the 9th, 2019 or something like that. And I started sort of doing a bit of research online into why these things have dates on them. And it turns out like they put them on because you need to know how long you've had it for, just in case you've kept the rubber ducky for 7 years and the inside of it is absolutely feral because they've got bacteria and they're like growing mould inside and they can harm your child.

Josh: It's a good way as well to, um, get them to replace, like, to make sure that they're getting continued business of rubber duckies.

Tommy: Yeah, true.

Josh: The, um, I think the pillow industry does that as well. There's a whole— you can get pillows that have dates on them so that you know, like apparently you're meant to chuck out your pillows every fucking 6 weeks.

Tommy: Yeah, who does that?

Josh: 6 weeks.

Tommy: People have the same pillow for years. And I mean, this is what you hear. How many, who do you know in your world that has gone, oh mate, I got sick from my pillow. There was some mites in it. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong.

Josh: It's very, yeah, I think it's pretty rare. Yeah. But yeah, on the Reddit, if there's something that you chuck out regularly that other people— like, I only realised near the end of being in our apartment that we needed to clean the heater/aircon filter. It made such a difference though.

Tommy: 100%.

Josh: Because it was like, I'm like, this fucking aircon is a piece of shit. And then Bree did some Googling and we pulled out just this like thick, like, um, black filter. And once we cleaned it, it was like, it was like brand new.

Tommy: It's, uh, my, my dad always pushes us on that. He's like, have you guys cleaned your filter? Mate, what filter? And so that's the only reason I know about it, because my dad was like, yeah, look at this, then pulls down the filter and it just looks like just tar. It looks just thick. I don't even know how air got through it. It's, yeah, it's bizarre.

Josh: It's crazy.

Tommy: I'm, um, I'm just sending you a quick photo to have a look. This— so that rabbit hole went down looking at rubber ducky stuff. They— I found this photo of a, of a duck, a rubber duck cut in half to show the inside. Oh, can you see it?

Josh: Oh, isn't that Fuck, that actually— do you know what makes me sick? That's making me dry rage. Can you put it on the Reddit, please? Yeah, I will. No, do you know what that reminds me of? That, uh, it just make it— I thought about it yesterday when I was drinking water and it's actually making me gag. The, um, the photo you took of your, your The water that you, um, that Bodhi drunk out of.

Tommy: Which one?

Josh: I had the floaty bits.

Tommy: Oh, which one? Which one?

Josh: You, you posted a photo. Oh yeah, you posted a photo and it had— it was like you shared a bottle of water and it was— it just had floaty bits. Do you remember this?

Tommy: As in he'd done it, done a poo in the Oh, sorry. Yes. No, no, no. Shit. No, I got it. I got it. He was eating basically Burger Rings, and then I gave him a bottle of water, and he still had Burger Rings in his mouth, and he obviously doesn't know how to drink properly, so he puts his whole mouth around the 1.25-liter bottle of water, and then what was in his mouth was now in the bottle. That's, that's—

Josh: ah, it is like adding water to things is disgusting. Like, that is disgusting. But that reminds me, that rubber ducky photo That reminds me of that.

Tommy: Oh, so I went down the rubber ducky rabbit hole and it turns out that the rubber ducky was patented by a sculptor. So the original, like traditional shape of a little rubber ducky that you'd think of at maybe at like a carnival where you're kind of shooting those rubber duckies off. You know, there's those little rides, those little things where you can win toys. Did you ever do that? Yeah, shooting at rubber duckies.

Josh: Um, I was— when it— I think the Melbourne show— is the Melbourne show on at the moment?

Tommy: Yeah, it's on at the moment.

Josh: That's— it was— yeah, the, um, no, my thing about the Melbourne show was the, um, can you guess?

Tommy: Uh, show bags.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, being on the show bags. I remember like getting a budget that I could spend, but it was just an opportunity just to have, like, I just thought it was permission to eat like chocolate bars for a week straight. It was, let's be honest, that's what it was. But, um, no, I never got into the anything else. Like, I loved the show, but the only thing that I actually did was would get all these show bags full of the Bertie Beetles and the, um, all that sort of stuff.

Tommy: Yeah. Oh yeah, the Bertie Beetles was a classic. What else was there? Um, like the Warheads one. That's like those, those really sour, sour lollies.

Josh: Do you know what Bertie Beetles are actually? I mean, this is very obvious trivia, but do you know what Bertie Beetles are made out of?

Tommy: They are bits from Crunchie. No, from Violet Crumbles. Violet Crumbles.

Josh: Correct.

Tommy: Yes.

Josh: Yeah, great.

Tommy: I mean, I only, for some reason I was looking, I was reading that only within the last few years. If you asked me 2 years ago, I wouldn't have been able to tell you that.

Josh: Yeah, I feel like it's a fact that you would know from working in FM radio.

Tommy: Yeah, it's true.

Josh: Like, it's like, oh geez, I think there's an article in that, guys. I can just imagine the digital manager saying, Josh, just got a great storey on the Bertie Beetles, and we're getting one sent from the PR team. If you can just take a few photos and just get that up today. Yeah, I think that's going to go really well on Facebook.

Tommy: Well, this is a classic radio segue because I was looking at, I was thinking about the patents of a rubber ducky and I was like, okay, that's a basic, it's a basic thing that most people have either used or, you know, purchased or seen and talked about. Yeah. And so I was like, okay, what else? What other patents out there that are, that are, and I went weird. I always go weird if I'm, if I'm looking up. Things just to see how weird people do get. And I found this site, I reckon you'd be— you'd like this. It's called freepatentsonline.com, and it's, um, basically there's a whole section dedicated to crazy patents. And these are legitimate, like they've got the patent numbers. It looks like a spreadsheet. It's got on the left-hand side patent number, so you get to see they're just a bunch of random numbers. And then the title of the patent and the summary. So tell me which one—

Josh: Does it give you any diagrams and stuff like that as well? Can you see any visuals?

Tommy: You can't see any visuals, which is a bit annoying, but they do describe the product and they've actually put a hyperlink through on the patent number that takes you to like the legitimate patent area. So it gives you the inventor's name, the application number, publication date, filing date, and then it—

Josh: I like that you use the word hyperlink as well. Yeah, I felt like I was in like doing my webmaster, he's just updating my hyperlink.

Tommy: They give you—

Josh: no, you're right.

Tommy: Oh wow, they give you like, um, the attorney agent or firm who lodged the patent, the description.

Josh: Maybe we could get one of them on our podcast. Maybe we get— give us something. Okay, what's, what's your favourite patent?

Tommy: So there is, uh, this one, Electrified Tablecloth. And I click through. An electric— Electrified tablecloth for preventing crawling insects from gaining access to consumers' food or drink comprise a cloth formed of electrical insulted— sorry, electrical insulated material which has at least one pair or 'Parallel electrical conductive strips secured to the edge.' So it goes on in more detail, but basically you just have to deal with a shock every time you pick up your fork. This is, this is a weird one. Tricycle lawn mower. Um, this, this is like legit.

Josh: Are these the ones that they've led with? Is this site specifically designed for pointing out the weird ones? No, this is actually what you found, a segment on their site.

Tommy: So this one, a tricycle frame providing basic support for the pedal-operated mower. Pedal— pedals turning forward sprocket for providing locomotion. And so just some bloke has just thought, okay, let's do that. Oh, this one, smoker's hat. A hat with an air intake which filters and then expels the air. Looks pretty much like wearing the exhaust hood for a stove on your head. That's what the person—

Josh: actually, that's a really good idea. Well, Because you could have— smokers could then smoke, because that's an issue in Europe. It's just like, uh, today, uh, or yesterday, sorry, I was wanting to, um, eat inside because it was really windy, and then I saw a guy smoking inside, so I was like, nah, I have to eat outside because I don't want to be eating. But if he had a smoker's hat that just took away all of that smoke, that'd be perfect.

Tommy: Okay, I found this one. This, maybe you would use this. Stud spectacles. Can you guess what that is?

Josh: Stud spectacles.

Tommy: Stud spectacles.

Josh: I'm guessing it is, I reckon it is glasses that also allows you, if you're working on a work site, to find where the stud is in a wall. No.

Tommy: Eyeglasses that don't need a frame because they attach to body piercings on the face.

Josh: Here we go.

Tommy: That was— that's—

Josh: that was off.

Tommy: That's their explanation of it. This— I'll read you the actual lodgement. A frameless glassware assembly attaching to body piercing studs. Design consisting of an elastomeric C-clip fixedly attached to the one distal end of a metal arm. See, this is the thing, they Like, there has been a lot of thought into these. And yeah, money spent.

Josh: So I guess they can't just— because it's, um, some of these are a bit dumb, they need to beef out what they're saying. Like, if it's a, if it's a legal document, I wonder if there's a— you want it to sound legit, you want to be specific. What about probably all these rules around it?

Tommy: What about thinking— the, the thing around— the thing that fascinates me about these are that to actually come up with an idea and then go and patent it costs money, time, and a belief that you've come across something that is great and could be used by people and you don't want your idea stolen is essentially what a patent is.

Josh: You'd get a lot of wackos, you'd get so many people who it's like in their backyard creating shit and being like, you know what, this fucking tricycle mower Gotta make sure that fucking this company doesn't steal it. Yeah, like it's pretty— I feel like it lends itself to— I'm sure there's people who have spent their livelihood inventing stuff and getting patents for, for the things they make.

Tommy: What about a documentary series that explores 8 different people's storeys of their patent, their storey behind their patent, and, uh Yeah, I love it. Working title, Be Patent. You gotta be patent or something around the patient. I think the working title or something else.

Josh: Some people love puns, others don't love puns. I love puns, so you always get me with the pun, but I'm always wary that some people aren't into them.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And it might go over people's head, especially because of the word is quite specific already.

Tommy: But I mean, this site.

Josh: Have you seen how they spell?

Tommy: Patient. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, this site, like, we could find this guy 100%. It gives you their, like, the legal firm they use, their full name, and you could totally find these people.

Josh: I think we should get at least one person who's invented something. We should get an inventor in the US, an inventor for the podcast.

Tommy: I mean, we've had like the guys from Quad Lock, they're inventors, but yeah, successful.

Josh: And they've also got, and they've also got, um, patents. Yeah, but I never, I can never remember if it's patents or patents.

Tommy: I, I just like the thought of someone who hasn't quite got it across the line but has put their, put their everything into it. And not that, I mean, it's just a, there's, there's not a happy ending, but maybe there is a happy ending. You don't know, maybe there was a silver lining in their, um, their failed patent.

Josh: Yeah, I mean, the, um, it's a big issue with, um, they call them patent trolls, um, in specifically technology, where, uh, companies or individuals will get patents for specific things. Like, for instance, like a marketplace. So it could be The patent could be the transaction of, um, you know, on a website, blah blah blah, like pretty broad type of shit. And then they go out and they sue all of these companies against this patent. And so they, um, so I know that, um, companies like Envato have had these patent trolls where they've had to go to the US and they end up having to settle. Like, I don't know what the deal was specifically with Envato because they're a private company, but a lot of these companies have to end up, you know, all of it was a big case where it was covering like all the different stock. Like, basically if you were a stock website, if you sold stock, these patent trolls came after every single one of them.

Tommy: Shit.

Josh: And I think that like That's not, that can't be good for innovation. Like if the design of having a patent is to help innovation and to help, like for me it just makes it really hard for people to do anything. 'Cause it's like, it'd be the equivalent of saying, if you have a podcast idea, you can write it on a website and then, if someone else wants to use that idea, they have to pay for it. Yeah, like, it's— I feel like it gives too much credit. Maybe I'm missing the point. We should ask, um, Robbie Ward what he thinks from Quad Lock. But I feel like there's a lot of negativity.

Tommy: I don't know if this falls into the patent category, but your mate who designed that t-shirt that was of a Rubik's Cube melting, was that your friend? Yeah.

Josh: Well, so that was a trademark.

Tommy: Ah, trademark.

Josh: Yeah, Glenn Jones. Yeah, so he made a t-shirt that was a Rubik's Cube that was melting and it went pretty big. He started off on Threadless and became one of the biggest sort of illustrators on there. But he, yeah, he did this Rubik's Cube t-shirt and it got onto The Big Bang Theory, Which is the main geek? What's the guy's name? Ah, Shalman? Yeah, yeah, yeah, something Shalman.

Tommy: Yeah, something S-H. I don't know. Shelton.

Josh: Shelton, thank you. Shelton actually wore it on an episode. Anyway, Rubik's Cube got in contact with him and basically like a cease and desist basically and said you can't be, you can't use a Rubik's Cube. And, um, so they ended up having a deal where he got to use it, like they licenced it or whatever, for like, I think it was maybe 12 months.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And then after 12 months, in the contract, what basically happened was after the 12 months, he was no longer allowed to use it, but it also gave them permission to use it. So yeah, if you go to a conference, you'll see official Rubik's Cube people with a melted Rubik's Cube t-shirt. It looks exactly the same as Glenn's, but it's actually made by Rubik's Cube, and they sell it now as an official thing.

Tommy: Uh, the rich get richer. They've—

Josh: isn't that crazy?

Tommy: Yeah, that's bizarre.

Josh: Hey, this is on a similar, similar sort of vein. Got a, uh, life trap from Phil. Oh yes, listen to the show. From the States. Phil says, I think it was on episode 174 when you talked about Josh's domain habit. Well, a life trap that I— that got me a couple of years ago was searching on GoDaddy for an unclaimed domain. I was searching for one for my auntie and didn't end up registering it that night. A week later, I go back to register it and GoDaddy had registered it, plus place to— you can purchase this domain, shitty website on it. Yeah, fuck you GoDaddy, Phil says. This has happened to me as well. Yeah, so that's why I think that I always get, um, trigger happy. As soon as I have searched on GoDaddy, it's either I get it now or expect it to be gone.

Tommy: I've been told about this. I, I was at a conference, and, um, as much as the conference was a life trap in itself because they tried to sell you a $30,000 course. They also gave me the advice that if you're searching, there's bots that— this is the way they sold it. There's bots that crawl the—

Josh: How long ago was this that you went to this?

Tommy: No, it was in Sydney, so it would have been 2015, 2016.

Josh: And how did you end up getting there?

Tommy: It was free and there was some good speakers there. And they were talking about marketing, sales, scaling your business. And so it was interesting and it was free, but it was, they were hard selling. Okay, up the back, there's people taking your registration now.

Josh: Pump the music.

Tommy: Limited time, you know, get in, get in soon. And then, you know, I gave them my number when you get there and then you get a call the next day at fucking 6:00 AM.

Josh: Yeah, that's fucked. Jason Fox was telling me about this because I was asking him about all of these types of things. He was saying that they have plants in the audience so that when there was something going on with the fireys— You're looking over interested. Is everything okay?

Tommy: I've got— I live in one of those apartment blocks where there's a gate that pretty much goes from one street to the next. So, the front of my property is one street and then the back is a— So, people cut through here all the time and I'm sitting in my car. And some bloke, some random bloke that doesn't live in my apartment block just cut through and I was just giving him the eye down. You know what I mean?

Josh: Yeah, you looked serious. But no, Jason was saying that there's, there's plants in the audience so that when they say, you know, there's only 50 spots or, you know, 10 spots, you know, get them in 3, 2, 1, then all of those people get up and run. And because it creates a sense that it's in need and it like actually gets people up and they all like, you know, sheeple. Yeah, they'll just follow.

Tommy: Yeah. Gary Vee was talking in Melbourne at this conference and my mate went to see him and he said that Gary came on last and that was to make sure that everyone hung around so that they could sell really hard. My mate said he saw, he reckons this guy made $300 grand in 10 minutes by getting signups. But then Gary Vee came out on stage and referenced the fact that they're all just hard selling. And so he made a joke about it, which was— yeah, it's, it's a classic. All right, my work, my homework for Reddit today is to, uh, put the, the rubber ducky that's cut in half that you nearly vomited during the show. So you can cheque that out, uh, reddit.com/r/TheDailyTalkShow.

Josh: It's a shit URL, but we'll, um, I think we'll eventually get a custom, some sort of custom URL. But until then, I think that people can work it out. Uh, it's a daily talk show. It's only what, we've got, uh, 2 more episodes after this. What are we, 82, 83? Yeah, 2 more episodes until we will be live in the US. Please jump on Reddit as TJ mentioned and, uh, feel free to just chuck shit up there because it is a good op to, um, get feedback and also topics for the show as well. So we'll see you tomorrow, guys.

Tommy: See you guys.