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Josh pulls a Dick Smith

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Josh pulls a Dick Smith

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We're all a bit on the spectrum, Tommy is starting to question star signs, vertical vs horizontal video production, two screen viewing and Josh is pulling a Dick Smith and will no longer use Booking.com

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The Daily Talk Show — Tuesday September 25 (Ep 181) - Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett

We're all a bit on the spectrum, Tommy is starting to question star signs, vertical vs horizontal video production, two screen viewing and Josh is pulling a Dick Smith and will no longer use Booking.com

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At a glance

From this episode’s transcript.

  • –Tommy's long-told story about an autistic former classmate who swore at him while he tried to offer a lift is a recurring anecdote on the show.
  • –Josh has moved from genuine past interest in star signs and numerology toward skepticism, especially after reading a horoscope aloud to his 19-month-old son and realizing how generic the language is.
  • –The hosts debate vertical vs horizontal video for content creation, noting that platform and audience should dictate orientation, and predicting auto-crop technology will solve the problem within 12-18 months.
  • –A Booking.com error (accommodation booked for the wrong year) cost Tommy a night's stay in Paros and prompted him to vow to book directly with hotels going forward, referencing a past episode about Dick Smith and buying local/direct.
  • –The show was nearing the end of an international trip, with hosts noting only three episodes remained before they'd be recording from New York City, then LA.

Questions this episode answers

What does 'pulling a Dick Smith' mean on The Daily Talk Show?

It's a phrase the hosts use (referencing a prior episode about Dick Smith) to mean bypassing big online booking platforms like Booking.com or Expedia and instead booking or buying directly from a business, after Tommy had a bad experience with Booking.com losing his hotel reservation.

What happened with Tommy's hotel booking in Paros?

Tommy had booked accommodation through Booking.com for the correct dates but the wrong year (2019 instead of 2018), and it was a non-refundable booking; the Booking.com app didn't display the year in the confirmation, and the company offered no resolution, resulting in Tommy losing one night's accommodation.

What is Josh's view on star signs and numerology?

Josh says he used to take an interest in star signs and numerology when younger, but has grown skeptical of star signs specifically after reading a generic horoscope to his baby son and realizing how broadly applicable the language is; he remains more open to numerology, which he learned about from his best mate's father.

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0:03

Josh: Wait a minute! Crossface, The Daily Talk Show, a conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Janson and Tommy Jansen.

0:18

Tommy: Daily Talk Show episode 181. TJ, I'm coming from Paros. Paros, now not to be confused with Paris.

0:28

Josh: I thought you were just a bogan, couldn't say Paris properly. Oh, Paros, mate.

0:32

Tommy: It's got that vibe.

0:34

Josh: Paros.

0:34

Tommy: So if you do hear a little bit of wind, that's, it's the wind of the ocean.

0:40

Josh: It's not the bad souvlaki you had last night.

0:43

Tommy: It was a delicious souvlaki, actually. Do you say souvlaki?

0:46

Josh: I said, well, I've heard how you say it and I haven't addressed it. So don't address how I say it because I think you say it wrong.

0:54

Tommy: I think I just say Souvlaki.

0:56

Josh: Souvi.

0:57

Tommy: I've never shortened it. Souva. Souvi sounds like a kid I went to school with.

1:03

Josh: Souvi. Yeah, it was very multicultural out in the suburbs. I went to school with John, James, Ben.

1:10

Tommy: All your— Yeah, in Hallam, I got all the good names. Basir.

1:16

Josh: Yeah.

1:17

Tommy: Atak.

1:18

Josh: Actually, there was a kid, his name was Hiroshi. Fuck, I have fond memories of Hiroshi, and so does everyone else at the primary school. He would stick his finger— he was a little, a little Chinese kid.

1:30

Tommy: Oh, here we go. Where did he stick his finger?

1:32

Josh: No, he used to stick his finger up at everybody.

1:36

Tommy: Okay.

1:36

Josh: And he used to say to everyone, no way, fuck you. It was awesome.

1:41

Tommy: Oh no. Well, so this is the problem. I had something similar, but it was slightly sadder. The— no, we'll just— well, it wasn't sad, I'm probably over-exaggerating, but one of the guys that I grew up with from all the way from kindergarten all the way through to Year 10, he didn't do VCE, but he was autistic and would— he couldn't speak much at all, but all the kids have taught him all the swear words. That was the one that I saw him on the street 2 years after school, just waiting for a bus. And I pulled over and I said his name and I waved him down. I said, hey mate, do you want a lift? He said, fuck off, cunt. The annoying thing was I'd opened the, um, I'd opened the passenger door to let him in. And so I had to— there was a— and the bus was coming behind me, so I had to drive off. I've told that storey before, but it's still—

2:37

Josh: it's actually one of my favorite. Wasn't he autistic as well?

2:42

Tommy: Yeah, no, he's— It was the same guy. So that's why he probably swore at me, because he was the one who was— He was sort of befriended by the naughty students who would get him to do dumb shit. And unfortunately, yeah, his vocab was very much centred around swearing.

3:04

Josh: Limited to swear words. I mean, mine was, "I wasn't autistic, though," or "from another country." Only slightly.

3:12

Tommy: You're slightly autistic, probably. We're all a bit slightly autistic on the spectrum.

3:17

Josh: I think definitely. I mean, that's what the spectrum is. It's, there's varied points that people fit in. I mean, it's pretty much, it's thrown out there so much now. It's almost the modern day, you've got ADD is you've got autism.

3:32

Tommy: Yeah. Being on the spectrum.

3:34

Josh: I think the sensitivities are around if you actually know someone with severe autism, it's it's pretty difficult.

3:41

Tommy: Some of these things are different, aren't they? It's almost like the difference between having a slight, being slightly autistic or being, what do they call it, is functional or having functional autism or whatever. Like that's a very, it's almost a very different thing, right? Compared to not being able to do anything and being sort of being completely sort of paralysed by.

4:08

Josh: But then there's like, it's almost a bit in vogue for some industries Industries, because if you're a filmmaker that makes really artistic films and you have autism, you— yeah, it's, it's celebrated, which it should—

4:20

Tommy: it shouldn't not be celebrated. Well, if you see Mark Zuckerberg with his smoking meats, you could say that he was definitely on the spectrum, if you've ever seen that video.

4:31

Josh: Yeah. Classic one. Are you into star signs?

4:36

Tommy: No.

4:37

Josh: Well, I worked out you and I have the same star sign. What does that mean? You're a Virgo, right?

4:43

Tommy: Same star sign. Same star sign.

4:45

Josh: Yeah, I've slipped into character.

4:47

Tommy: And so what's the— what is our being together, being two Virgos? Virgos, not Virgos. Virgos. What does that mean?

4:57

Josh: Well, I don't know. It'd be more around that we are similar in some areas. I used to get into this when I was young. I used to be like, I wonder what this girl's star sign is that I'm seeing. Are we compatible?

5:11

Tommy: Would you really think that?

5:13

Josh: Well, I looked into it a little bit, and that and numerology, which is in the same sort of, you know, same genre of outlandishness. If you don't believe in any of it, you'd probably think I'm a wacko, but I'm more leaning towards it's all bullshit as I've got older. But what I did, I was in a cafe the other day and I used to, it used to be a bit of a ritual. I'd open up the Herald Sun, you know, flick through, probably get to the confidential, which is the gossip pages in Australia. And then I think it was a couple of months ago.

5:47

Tommy: See who Mitch, Mitch Catlin had gotten into the paper that week.

5:51

Josh: Yeah. Yeah. You'd see everyone. It was my dream to get in there. Never got in there.

5:56

Tommy: That's the only reason you went to Fitness First Richmond, right? Was to eventually get into The Confidential.

6:03

Josh: To be seen, Josh, to be seen. So anyway, a couple of flicks past The Confidential and you end up on the, the star sign page. And that's where I'd kind of read mine and finish off the day and maybe read the flame that I had going at the time, read hers to see if there's anything that sort of stuck out for me.

6:24

Tommy: And yeah, so if it was anything, it was, if it was positive from your end, I'm guessing you would message it and say, oh, look what it's saying.

6:32

Josh: I never did that. That would be, that'd be very on the spectrum. So no, but what I did was I thought, hang on, I actually haven't thought about my son's star sign. What is he? And just off the top of my head, I couldn't tell you. I don't have the recall on the date range for star signs, but I did look and I've taken a photo. He's an Aquarius. So he was born on February 14th, 2000 and was it 2017? Yeah, 2017. Crazy. Imagine being born 2017. Shit.

7:08

Tommy: He's pretty young, isn't he? But could you imagine him having a Facebook account and just putting 2017? It's pretty outrageous.

7:16

Josh: So bizarre. So here's the thing. I started to read Bode, my 19-month-old son, his star sign. And if you just take that context and you have that filter for any time you ever read it, you'll realise how silly star signs are. Because this is— picture me.

7:39

Tommy: Is he going to find love?

7:41

Josh: Well, this is me reading to Bode and just picture Bode's on the other side and you're watching the conversation. Okay, Bodhi, you're an Aquarius, mate. You're an Aquarius. All right, here we go. As much as you might—

7:52

Tommy: What's an Aquarius, Dad? Sorry.

7:54

Josh: Well, I don't know. It's a nude guy with a bow and arrow. Pretty sure that's it.

7:58

Tommy: Do they really have all of the— is that the illustration?

8:01

Josh: No, no, no. They only feature the month that it is. So they'll show the big Virgo, but it's cut out of the photo that I took anyway. So Bodhi, you're an Aquarius. I'll read it to you. As much as you might be focused on the big picture of life and where you want to go and what you want to achieve, the full moon this week is reminding you that you also need to tend to your own nest. Otherwise, you could experience some major discombobulations, especially on the home front. Be prepared.

8:30

Tommy: Do you think that means he's going to get reflux or something? You're going to need to burp him?

8:34

Josh: I don't know.

8:35

Tommy: What does that actually translate to for him?

8:37

Josh: Pretty sure the kid doesn't think about his own nest. Or he's not looking at the big picture of life. It's bullshit. It's absolutely crazy.

8:48

Tommy: Is this only through this context that you've realised this? Has this been the catalyst?

8:53

Josh: It was a penny drop moment because it's like, yeah, I have this little child in front of me that was just wanting Weet-Bix and didn't give a shit about the big picture of life. So I was like, these are written on the most broad basis about things that everyone thinks about. If you're not thinking about your life, you're probably not human.

9:18

Tommy: I wonder how many people have actually made big, big, big decisions based on either star signs or like a palm reading.

9:29

Josh: Look, we hopefully will have my best mate. I know you're, you're one of them too, Josh, but Rhys Mitchell has been my best mate since grade prep, which is like you're 5 years old.

9:42

Tommy: I thought you were going to say James. You're going to get— we're going to get Jimmy on to talk all things conspiracy theories.

9:48

Josh: No, no. But Rhys Mitchell, he's— his dad, Con the Fruiterer, if you live in Australia, you might know him from TV back in the day.

9:57

Tommy: Anyway, for people who didn't know that he was on TV, just assumed that he had had some form of fruit market. Like, it's actually the famous DudeCon.

10:06

Josh: He was taking off a— well, he was impersonating or impression of a guy who owns a fruit shop, which is amazing.

10:15

Tommy: He had a character. He was a comedian with a character.

10:17

Josh: Yeah, but Rhys's dad is really into numerology, and I've spent some time chatting and reading through stuff with him, and there's some pretty— there is some good stuff that is, that was very relatable to the person I am and some of the anxieties.

10:35

Tommy: What is numerology?

10:37

Josh: So you can work out your num— so everyone has a number and your number's worked out by adding up. So I'm born on the 1st of the 9th, 1988. So you add 1 plus 9 plus 1 plus 9 plus 8 plus 8. Which gives you 36. And then you— what you do is, so you— there's two numbers to your numerology number. So it's number 36 and then it's something else. And that something else is 3 6 9. So I'm a 36/9. That's my numerology number. And so you just, you work it out by using that equation. I just— you probably can't remember.

11:18

Tommy: So what are you learning about yourself through the, the old numerology.

11:22

Josh: Well, it was— I read it a long time ago, but if you find out your number, you can then search online and type in, uh, you know, what, uh, my numerology number explored, and then type in your number or something. Try that. Um, see, this is a good one for Reddit. Now I know you've— I am thinking about Reddit. I could maybe post up, is numerology bullshit, and put my number in there.

11:47

Tommy: Well, let's get everyone's numerology numbers up on our subreddit.

11:52

Josh: Yeah, that's a good idea.

11:53

Tommy: Good. And what sort of wacky people are having, like how wacky you have to be to listen to the show.

12:00

Josh: Imagine if we were all 36/9s. Well, you might.

12:05

Tommy: I don't know what the fuck that means.

12:07

Josh: Yeah, but anyway, see, this is the thing. You can go down. You know what I love about it? Rhys's dad. Mark, he knows, he knows it really, really well. And when anyone ever knows something really well and it just captivates you when they talk about it because they're like, they're feeling it, you know, it's like I love watching you talk about tech stuff because I know how much you love it and it just fucking oozes through just with this passion. And it's like, it's like, it's cool. It's like, yeah, this is my friend. He loves that stuff. Get him, get him revved up. Wait till he starts.

12:41

Tommy: So what is it? What is he— how full-on has he gotten with these numerology? If he meets someone, will he straight away be adding up?

12:49

Josh: No, don't think it's that. It's more just— well, Rhys's house, there was— which we can speak to him about— grew up with like 5 brothers and sisters, and it was always just like, you know, everyone chatting around this stuff and friends coming over. It was cool. I think it's like something to talk with people about if you're a total non-believer. Of this shit, you—

13:10

Tommy: It's a hard starting point.

13:12

Josh: It's a very hard starting point, but I can't.

13:14

Tommy: Yeah.

13:14

Josh: So I draw the limit at star signs, as in just the bloke who, you know, Dennis, who writes the Herald Sun star sign. But I'll give time to someone who thinks they know or, you know, has the information on all this other stuff. What's your stance? What do you think? No, no.

13:33

Tommy: Oh, look, I think I'd be happy to entertain whatever the answer is because I think all of the— all of this stuff is just narratives anyway, and we apply— I think that it's probably a method to be able to pull stuff out of our, our consciousness, maybe. So by saying these things, we can then connect it to our life, and it maybe is a way of forming those narratives and helping us to understand what's going on.

14:00

Josh: Yeah. That's good. So, um, we should, we should— this is a bit of a new segment that we're trying. Um, it's a question that's come through from Reddit. And if you—

14:13

Tommy: I thought you were, you were saying that this was the, um, I thought you were going hard on the numerology. I thought you're about to launch into a segment.

14:21

Josh: So if you're listening in your— and you're on Reddit, and we're about to answer a question that's come through on our Reddit, so start listening to the show and hopefully you'll hear your response on The Daily Talk Show posted onto our Reddit.

14:35

Tommy: Absolutely.

14:36

Josh: Does that make sense?

14:37

Tommy: It's from Kyle. Yeah, it does. You just have to go to reddit.com/r/thedailytalkshow. I find the letter R hard to say.

14:46

Josh: Yeah, me too.

14:46

Tommy: Because when I say it to— I remember saying it to an American taxi driver and he couldn't understand, like I was spelling out a place and he just, every time I said R, he couldn't understand. So I had to really put the R in R. So R. Classic. Bit piratey. R. But no, Kyle's asking vertical versus horizontal. He says, boys, awesome episode with Ryan John earlier last week. Personal rebrand stitch up was an absolute pisser. Would love your thoughts on vertical video. Is the future, is it the future of content? 'Are you currently shooting horizontal with the thought that it can be resized into vertical video?' Yours in content questions, Kyle. Yeah, what's your take?

15:33

Josh: Shout out to Kyle. Vertical video, I've been thinking about it a lot, and I used to have a bit of pushback to it. Um, I, I've always encouraged people to turn their phone so that they can have it in landscape to get the most out of it if they're making a video. Like they want to make a bigger video. But what I've actually started doing is not worrying as much and thinking for little bits and pieces. Like I used to turn my phone for everything and film it landscape.

16:01

Tommy: Yeah.

16:02

Josh: Which is I've started pushing towards, oh no, if this is a good moment and I can get it like this and it looks good on portrait, go for it because I don't know quite what I'll do with them yet. But when the technology of things like TVs can swivel I know Jules Lund mentioned that, like, flip— being able to flip your TV onto its side to watch everything in portrait. That's when you'll be able to pull from the archives all the footage that you've—

16:30

Tommy: But do you think that's really— could you imagine what's the use case of doing that? When are you going to flip your TV vertically in your lounge room? I mean, you'd have to buy a TV.

16:40

Josh: I'd have to buy one, but I would buy one.

16:42

Tommy: Just buy a TV and then a swivel bit. But the thing is, you're probably the best position to get one given you're starting from nothing.

16:49

Josh: Yeah, and it is an appealing thing. I would do it. Um, Kyle, for us, we make videos for clients, and so there is some pain points around when someone wants, wants it wide but also wants it in portrait. Go figure.

17:07

Tommy: Yeah. Um, I think that it's a, um, I, I think that it comes down to the audience, the platform, what where— what is the— I think every piece of content, even though it goes far and wide, it normally has a native platform.

17:23

Josh: Yes.

17:23

Tommy: Where is it going to— where do you want it to be the hero? Where do you want it to stand out? And so if you're doing an IGTV native piece of content, then obviously doing vertical makes sense.

17:37

Josh: Yeah.

17:38

Tommy: If you're doing stuff for YouTube and then want to do some teasers within Instagram. I think what's going to eventually happen is, um, obviously resolution's getting better and better and you can just crop in. I think that, uh, being able to do auto crops, I think will become— I reckon probably in the next 12 to 18 months there will be devices that, um, it's a pretty simple thing really, it will take your 4K footage and automatically allow you to shoot vertical. Actually, as I say this, I think that the new GoPro Hero 7 Black has a vertical function.

18:21

Josh: That, that looks amazing for a little handy cam, a little action cam. But you're right, I've— I'm giving it less and less pushback as time goes on. But you're right, I don't shoot things purposefully for portrait, for portrait, because most of my stuff, like I will put time into a hero video that will end up on Instagram. Sorry, sorry, sorry. That will end up on YouTube and then it can flow down. And if it can't be fit into a portrait, I don't care because my main point and what I want to be creating is those wider format, you know, a traditional style, traditional format.

19:05

Tommy: Um, yeah, I like the idea of, um, what I've done for a couple of clients is taking the whole vertical canvas and applying multiple horizontal videos. So having sort of like a 3, uh, you know, 3 screens type of thing, which can be a cool, cool effect, um, a cool way of sort of, uh, showing a lot of content, but it can be a little bit of a overload as well.

19:31

Josh: Yeah, you also visually do feel like you've got ADD at that moment of watching 3 videos simultaneously about 3 different things.

19:40

Tommy: But that's where it's going anyway. Did you ever use, um, when you're at home, did you, uh, you know, your parents, did you ever use like a picture-in-picture function? Do you remember when that was a big, big thing when TVs had that? You could watch one thing and then have a little screen with something else on.

19:57

Josh: Jeez, I do that now. I just have my laptop and then my phone in my hand.

20:02

Tommy: Well, that's the thing, isn't it? It's sort of, it was the first step, but you would, yeah, it was that idea that you could have the sports on and then you could be watching whatever it is that, you know, Deal or No Deal. And you can have headphones, you could plug, I remember our TV, you could plug headphones in. So while the other person could have the speakers of the TV, the other person could listen through the headphones.

20:28

Josh: Oh, that is cool. I've been doing it with sport. I think sport's one of those things you can, you can be watching a TV show and then just have on your iPhone or on a smaller screen. Yeah, just a game going where you just, you don't really need to hear. You can just see like kicking a footy back and forth.

20:43

Tommy: Yeah, we, we had an epic fail on the way here to Paros. On the, on the, uh, cruise, like on the boat to get here, we got a, um, message from the hotel and they said, hi, we're, we're basically, we've been trying to contact you, we're unable to accommodate you, can you please, uh, contact us? And my thing was I wanted everything to be through the Booking.com app. I didn't want to have any of these conversations because this was We're literally on our way to the island and we're getting told that our accommodation for the next 3 days isn't going to happen. And so, I went hard on them and I was like, look, now tell me on through booking.com, blah, blah, blah. And it turns out we had booked our accommodation for September, the right dates, but 2019. Oh no, for a non-refundable.

21:44

Josh: Non-refundable. Oh no. So because not all, not all bookings through that platform are non-refundable, but this, this was.

21:52

Tommy: So basically you can normally, what happens is it might be $1,000 and you can do a refund within 24 hours or whatever, free of charge. And then for $800 you can get a non-refundable.

22:05

Josh: Okay. And so you're on this Did you realise as you were on the boat? Like, did you have the Wi-Fi or something?

22:13

Tommy: Well, yeah, so we discovered we had 4G, and so I was looking— or shitty 3G, I should say— and I was looking at the Booking.com app. And when you look at the app, it doesn't actually tell you the year. So within the booking confirmation and the booking summary, it just says the dates that we're going to be there. And so, um, what they ended up saying, what the hotel said, is they, um, they could accommodate us for the final 2 days but not the first day, and they could give suggestions of other hotels and we would just have to pay for that.

22:51

Josh: Yeah.

22:51

Tommy: Anyway, like, I was, I was annoyed at Booking.com because the thing was that apparently that hotel had contacted us, the when it happened to let us know. But Booking.com, like, it's— it never made it to us, and it wasn't in the app. We never got an email. And so I contacted Booking.com about it, and they were like, tough luck. Oh, so I've like— this is one of these examples because the thing is that we've done over 50 bookings through Booking.com, 50 properties, right?

23:25

Josh: Yeah.

23:25

Tommy: So it's probably over the course of the last maybe 3 to 4 years, we've probably spent $25,000, $30,000 through Booking.com, right? Just through like whether it's like businessy trips or whatever it is. And so they couldn't, like I explained what happened, I said about the app, they're like, "No, sorry, you fucked it basically." And so they were literally not doing anything. They couldn't, I would've thought, The hotel was telling us when we arrived, I told them about my experience and they didn't seem too impressed with Booking.com either. They said Booking.com, I'm getting all Dick Smith if you heard that episode. I was just thinking, fucking Dick Smith. Booking.com, I've done a flip. Am I interviewing Dick Smith? It's got that vibe. They do take 20% of every booking. I'm fucking done. When I spoke to them on the phone, I said, how do I delete my account?

24:22

Josh: What did they say?

24:25

Tommy: They said, sorry sir, we don't understand. I'm like, I want to delete my account. And they said, yeah, just log off out of the app. I said, I don't want to, I don't want to log off. I want to, I want to actually delete my, uh, I want to delete my account so it no longer exists. And they said, oh, we can't do that. Yeah, it's fucking hung up.

24:48

Josh: I mean Were you hoping— so you've lost accommodation for one night?

24:54

Tommy: Yeah, so we ended up, we've ended up in a slightly worse room than what we booked. The funny thing was when I said to, when it was all going down to start with and they're like, hey, there's been a problem with the booking, we can't accommodate you. I straight away, Got excited thinking to myself, all right, the fuck, something, this is good. Whenever this sort of shit happens, they have to go above and beyond and we'll get sorted out. I said to Bree, I'm like, this is gonna be awesome because it means that we will get upgraded to a better hotel. Yeah. And classic Bree's answer, she said, oh, it was, this is the best hotel on the island. So there was really, there was nowhere to go anyway. But I mean, it's fair. Yeah. So it was a bit of a Disaster.

25:43

Josh: I've got to ask, was there anyone at fault? Like, was it an oversight from anyone in like—

25:51

Tommy: Bree, Tommy's just asked, was anyone at fault? Bree's saying me, as in her. To be— the thing is, this is— Bree said it's all her. This is the thing. It's not Bree's fault. It's my fault for not pulling my finger out and booking anything. Bree's done all of the booking for the entire trip. She's done all the Airbnbs, all of the hotels. Like, we've been away for 100 days, we haven't had a single fuck-up. And so it's— I can't— Bree's fat fingers pressed the wrong date. Yeah, she doesn't have fat fingers.

26:25

Josh: Like, I'm sure she— 100%, it's a total mistake because you don't mean to do that. I know someone— so we did a shoot a couple of weeks ago, maybe a month or so ago, in an apartment that was rented through Airbnb, and I suggested it for the film shoot. And it's a really lovely apartment in Fitzroy. And we get there and I see the producer. She came down to meet me and she told me what had happened because she looked a bit frazzled.

26:58

Tommy: What happened?

27:00

Josh: I've rocked up and— oh no, so the talent rocked up there the night before to stay. And she walks in and she sees that this thing's on the stove and there's a bottle of wine open. And she knew that there was people in the house. And what they'd done was they'd booked a— they just didn't realise that it was a— it's not the entire home because you know how you have the shared. So here they are in this house, not expecting to see somebody in there. And then they're having this fucking realisation in the moment going, oh shit, we're just staying in a room.

27:39

Tommy: They didn't tell them that they were filming, did they?

27:40

Josh: No, they told them that they were filming, but there was—

27:43

Tommy: Oh, the filming wasn't happening in the Airbnb?

27:45

Josh: No, it was filming in the Airbnb, but there was like certain details that you leave out as you do. You kind of just, you know, there'll be 4 people, there's probably going to be 8 or, you know. And so, yeah, it was— but the conversation with the girl I know was very much I didn't even know. How the hell was I meant to know? And in the moment I'm thinking, you stuffed it.

28:07

Tommy: It's on there.

28:08

Josh: It's on there.

28:09

Tommy: It's on the Airbnb.

28:11

Josh: No, but hear this. While I'm judging her for just not looking, she said that the owner said this fucking happens all the time. The amount of times she's like a Superhost, this woman who has this apartment. She's like, this, this is crazy how often this happens. People rock up and go, what do you mean you stay here? We've rented this place.

28:35

Tommy: Really? So it's— this is the problem, I guess, with people just using new services or technology.

28:42

Josh: Yeah. Which isn't the case for you because you laid out a real great case for having Almost Books. This is the—

28:47

Tommy: how about this? I was so fucking angry because they literally— I said, I'm like, you know, we have stayed at, you know, over 50 places. This has never happened, you know, like, um, and she says, yeah, like, um, yeah, if it was a problem with our user interface, we'd be getting these calls all the time, you know. We don't— I was just like, go fuck yourself, Booking.com. Yeah. And so like, I'm, I'm actually like, seriously, I, um, the problem with these companies is they're all owned by one person, so it's like, oh, or one sort of organization. So I actually think that I can't go on Expedia. I'm sort of ruling out a lot of options, but I like, I'm going to try the whole Dick Smith thing. I'm going to fucking go local. I'm going to go direct to these hotels. I'm fucking done with Booking.com.

29:34

Josh: Maybe we can pull a Dick Smith. Hashtag pull the Dick Smith. We pulled a Dick Smith for when we go up to Sydney for Christmas. We drive and it's a long drive with a baby, so we break it up. And we're staying in this motel and we go direct. We call them straight up. They take a—

29:56

Tommy: Did you call? Have you booked for this year already? Yeah.

30:00

Josh: Yeah. Hopefully that they keep it. See, this is the thing, right? It could be—

30:06

Tommy: That wasn't even meant to be a joke, but I see that you've taken our misfortune of booking the wrong year as some sort of joke. That's what you've done.

30:12

Josh: Yeah. Christmas of 2019. 19.

30:15

Tommy: Well, I was wondering, did you mention— because Dick Smith said to mention him when you're booking. Did you mention Dick Smith?

30:21

Josh: No, but we might when we get there. It's— we're paying $200 for 2 rooms. It's pretty fucking— pretty cheap. And so I guess when you look at it like that, I mean, I— like I said, when you talked about what Dick had to say, we tend to do that. We call— I like to call the actual place themselves. Yeah, but you probably can't do that when you're in Greece.

30:44

Tommy: Yeah, it's a little bit harder. They kept saying, Booking.com said, oh, we tried calling you about it. It's like, right, you're on a fucking— you're an internet app, like you're an online app. We use this message thing all the time. We don't— like, they were trying to call my Australian number. Anyway, it's all good. We ended up finding a nice place and we move into— we're actually about to get breakfast in 10 minutes at the place that we were meant to be staying. So, we're literally— We didn't get breakfast at the new place and now we're now walking across the road. So, it actually worked out. The people in Paros are super lovely. Everyone's been really nice.

31:21

Josh: Yeah. Yeah, mate. The Greeks are pretty laid back. It's awesome.

31:25

Tommy: They are.

31:26

Josh: They're so laid back.

31:26

Tommy: I got confused between the Greeks and the Italians. I thought that they were all assholes. It turns out the Italians are the assholes, but the Greeks— are so fucking nice.

31:35

Josh: Yeah.

31:36

Tommy: Well, you know, like the Italians, like they do have a bit of chewed with things. Like they just don't have time for shit. Yeah, but it's very— I was expecting that from the Greeks. And then we just— every single moment throughout this Greece trip, everyone has been so accommodating. The taxi driver loved her job. It was just— yeah, it was really nice.

31:55

Josh: Yeah, that's awesome. The countdown's on. It's 3 more shows after today's episode, 3 more shows. And we're in New York City.

32:05

Tommy: Yeah, baby.

32:07

Josh: Hey, where should we do our first show from?

32:10

Tommy: The, the, um, we could go, um, if we were to go full bogan, we could go, um, uh, what's the square? What's the main—

32:19

Josh: oh, Times Square. Yeah, that'd be cool.

32:21

Tommy: But we could either do that or we could do something a little bit, uh, classier. But, um, The Daily Talk Show is what you've been listening to. We'll be in New York, then LA. If you have a guest that you think we should have on the show, let us know. We've lined up some pretty epic people which we're very excited to share with you in the coming weeks. Otherwise, have a good one and we'll see you tomorrow.

32:43

Josh: See you guys.

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