#177 – Too new for a subreddit/

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Wait a minute, cross face.

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Conversation sometimes worth recording, with Josh Janssen and Tommy Jenkins daily Talk

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Show Episode 177 Hump Day. Yeah, it's Wednesday.

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It is. It's a good day. Good day to be live Josh.

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what's what's the let's let's give what the chat one last crack the shower. What is the weather like in Melbourne?

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Blue Sky cold as hell. Not that cold as hell. But it's every minute. How would

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I think?

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Yeah, I don't think it's up to the Barcelona weather. Yeah, well, actually, do you say you're in Barcelona? Is that? Is it like saying you're in Melbourne where you are? And you're outside of the city?

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Yeah, we're we're outside of city, we go into Barcelona, you know, each day, that technically being in Teresa is a tiny bit. It's like a 35 minute train trip to get to Barcelona.

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You can get to Frankfurt and in that time, almost another be there. 40. That'd be about 15 minutes. So you feel your feet away? Have you been to downtown Los Ramblas? Or how have you said the main drag that kind of that night

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I took my storey and the ship? We did

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you remember anything if you trip? Now? I don't this is this is why I should have logged it. Just so you can remember.

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Like, I think that this definitely we spoke about it. Like early on about being a bad terrorist and doing doing things the wrong Why? And I reckon one of the me's this desire to have to remember everything or just like ticking the boxes and saying I can Yeah, I've like, bit. Like I think there's a middle ground. I'm a shocker when it comes to remembering what things are. But what do you

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know, no chance. I mean, I saw I need to check out my healing Angelo's tackle. So I went and saw that in Florence, the statue of David, I think it is. I saw him took a photo of that. And that's it. No, I like I think I just don't like the lines and in in that, especially when you haven't been in places for a long time. So I tend not to take the option of, you know, just standing in long queues.

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Yeah. Well, I was wrapped with them. In Amsterdam. We did van golf. And that was amazing. Amazing. Yeah, it was like really well organised, had like, audio sort of tour. So you would go up to each painting and it would explain where he was in his life. So that was an eye. I don't know anything about him. So that was good.

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Yeah, well, I like the architecture of Barcelona. I'd much I'd almost prefer to go and look at beautiful buildings around the city then maybe look at art in a, you know, Art Gallery. But then, you know, that's, some people would hate doing what I like. Yeah. Yeah, that's a funny one. What there's an artist called Bosc it boss. Best way, be a Sq at I think it is. One of these paintings I just read just before the guy, Japanese billionaire bought it for like 110 million dollars or something. I looked at the name of it. The name of the painting. It's called untitled. I even bother with the name. Know this guy. This billionaire. He's named your sock cool. think that's how you pronounce the Japanese mogul of fashion. Open up a massive fashion retail chain or something like that. Man is money in clothes. Anyway, he's going to the moon. He's the first he's the first citizen or just, you know, everyday punter that isn't a astronaut that has bought I think it's just like he's he's helped fund a lon musk SpaceX by purchasing these tickets. And he bought all the seats on on this thing. That's like

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a full blown going like I respect it, because it's the ultimate experience, isn't it? I get it. It's not like a thing. Like it once he goes, it's not like he's buying property or real estate on the moon. He's literally spending a lot of money on a Kentucky holiday.

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And so yeah, he bought the tickets. And he says, and again, it was so weird. I was I was on YouTube last night. And there was this this random videos like a lawn mask makes you know, amazing. Crazy. What do you call it announcement and so I clicked onto it. And it was a brand new video. And I was like this hour long presentation.

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him and he was just having a bit of Wade chatting.

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Now Ilan was just talking about that was just revealing this rocket, the CFR, which is I immediately thought what is will be farming. And I wrote that in Trello. And you asked me before, yeah, what do you think? What do you think it's sensible? I mean,

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I thought bf being boy friend, like does I had no sense of what you were talking about. didn't know it was related to the the rocket. Yeah. Big fucking rocket, I think is what it is.

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Well, I think people assume that's what it stands for. And when you type it in to Google comes up, you know, it's like a section that seemed like it's a legit explanation of something. Yeah, at the top. It's like a top listing. And it's sort of pulling

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up.

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dash dash dash I nj rocket. So that's what people obviously think it's fucking but I've done a bit bit more digging. And they think people think it's frigging sense for big freedom rocket. Big Friendly rocket was another one. But it's it's tongue in cheek. I think Ilan, he knows what's up.

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He was talking about like, I'm asking questions. My mate, who were staying with here in spine was telling me how much is asking. I was asking, I was asking him what websites he visits regularly. And one of the ones that he uses like the most like every second day he visited is Cora.

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Cora Never heard of it.

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Quora. cora.com. So q you are I is people asking questions. It's like the, the, the fancy yahoo answers.

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Okay, so I've just gone there, I have to sign up. So I'm not doing that. But

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we I think you should, because I've been signed up for a while. I haven't gone on it that much. But you can. People can ask questions like, I'm about to go to jail in a week. What do I need to bring? And what happens is this, the answers aren't just like dumb. Say with, like Yahoo Answers, you just get dumb people responding. Yeah, I'm shooting dumb questions. This is that sort of community. Whereas core people sort of up vote answers, but the answers are also by legit people. So you'd have like a someone who's a corrections officer responding, make sure you get a dental check, because you know, that's really poor. Where you going? Make sure to bring some books.

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Yeah. And to me, it's very cool. It is cool. I don't know how many people that are going to jail. I mean, maybe if you just got in there for some, you know, insider trading or you know, tax evasion. You actually they're smart. computer hacking you

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you might opt

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for the the old Cora. But I don't know how many actual just thieves and crooks going into this one. But I kind of like it. I mean, I've got a lot of stuff stupid questions that I want answers for. You

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throw one out.

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I was thinking just on all my Tesla. You're thinking you know, the great thing that they're doing with ice? Where did this? Where does the energy come from? For the stations there? The liquid trick stations we can fill up? Because electricity? Is it all solar powered? Is that? Like in between Melbourne in Victoria, Melbourne and Sydney. There's a there's like the dog on the tackle boxes like them, the mark of the halfway point. And it's really cool because I've got out the back of the service station in this like specially special area is the Tesla charging station. I think they have like a, because it just looks so bad. You can't see, you know, you can't see it doesn't look like mom's house with a, you know, big solar panel system up the top getting electricity is just looks really sleek, and you can't see any power anywhere. Like any exposed sort of panel. So thing is that power come from

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something in doing a whole series on just it's probably already being done. But in infrastructure in general. Like I just don't have a sense of like, the cables that must be under the city. Did you imagine like, how to like the whole water thing? Doesn't that blow your mind that like, water gets piped to us?

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Yeah, it's crazy. I was driving down the beach road here in Melbourne. And I had one of those moments where I was looking at these workers is about 6am in the morning. And now we're just doing something to some pipes. And it looked extreme. I was like, Who's the bloke, or the woman that has come up with? Like that technology? Who invented the thing, that machine? That's right, it was a weird looking machine that they had this unused fucking thing that like, fed Pipe down. I was like, who the who is that person? Or who is the team that invented that to service that specific thing?

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It's gonna be a lot of trial and error it involves you think we have not if it's surge involved? I'm guessing it's not it's other places, right? It's been over years and years and years has been sort of worked out.

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Yeah, yeah, definitely. It's slowly as we've needed more infrastructure.

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One thing I've been googling all the time, everywhere we go ease, ease the water drinkable, in different places. But I felt like a real idiot because I did it. In Amsterdam, and like there was just somewhat like, someone had asked a question someone's like, like, How stupid are you? Like, the Dutch invented you know, like back in pure fine water like awesome shit. I just saying like, and I'm so glad that I didn't ask. I kept my relative that I was catching up with because I feel like it's almost like a little bit of defensive question like,

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yeah.

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There's no dumb questions. I mean, there is. There's a lot of dumb questions. But as in Yeah, it's it's okay to ask. But it's nice to just hide under the blankets when someone else out some cells as the dummy first. What but my you don't want to you don't want to end up with speed bump

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is pretty bad would be a disaster. But I just everyone geeks out at different things. Like even though I'm really dumb when it comes to, you know, where we're, where we're going to and remembering names I think about it's like, while we're travelling, I'm learning different pieces of software. Like I've got an app on my phone that I'm using to learn off. As I think that that's like, you don't need to do anything. It's a bit of a pressure to know everything about everything.

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Hmm. Well, we may soon one day, thanks to Elon Musk. He's got he, I mean, this is not just an episode speaking his business, different businesses, but new row link his company. It's like that it's what does he talk about?

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What's like, go Connect having Google connected to you, I can head all over.

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Yeah, essentially. And then you wouldn't ever not know something because you could just be like,

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your real exam is

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shut down.

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Everyone gets really dumb, when they go on to like it in a tunnel. on a train, you want to call someone at you just wait until you're on, you know, under underground. But um, no. But I think the thing about that is like there's a difference between memory and connecting it to something versus just being able to pull it from the ether, don't you think

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I know what you mean. But maybe the problem with our brains, that we don't have enough space, or we don't have enough capacity for, you know, holding on to all of these things, because there's so much information. And so if we just have access to it, if the if the problem isn't having the space, you know, having the connexion to the internet, then it doesn't really matter about

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you know, memory on a large scale for recording a bunch of things. Because maybe you could maybe would have space to maybe you just be holding different pieces of memory and information need to be able to connect all those things up. Right. Like when I was at the conference, a few days ago, in Amsterdam, there was I was going up to all these booths. And I had no idea about like, what I was trying to ask, I think that's how thing when you it's okay to not know something, but when you don't know something and enough that you can't you don't even know the right question to ask. I think that that's like, so I just got two booths where I'm like, trying to understand all the audio engineering stuff, and how different sort of studio configurations work and how they sort of play nicely with like live streaming. I just been like, so tell me, just tell me like about your product? And then I'll just ask you some questions.

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Yeah, I think that's a good approach. Yeah. I mean, it might be annoying for the person at the booth.

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And well, if every single person that they ever interact with, but I guess what I sort of would explain that, like, you know, I'm in this weird middle ground in the sense of like, I'm not TV, I'm not radio, it's sort of this new media stuff. I don't want it like some of their solutions, it would be like for it to set up streaming solution, it might be $30,000, where I know that I can get the different elements and parts from, say, a company like black magic for maybe $10,000 and set up the same thing. So the theories, the solutions have come up specifically in that like camera live switching for radio. Yeah, what you're paying for is just an all in one solution. That I guess the engineer at the radio station doesn't have to, you know, do a bunch of training with all of their staff on how to use it.

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Yeah. Yeah, I think I think you've got a great gauge of I think you mentioned me there would have been that Who's this idiot? This guy's got no clue. Do you ever know where you are? My thought was that I thought I was at Auto Salon.

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What's the Auto Salon?

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auto selling was a old school car show in Melbourne, at the things around rent Australia. Off. That's right. Jeff shed the exhibition building just was that it was a cash show, but I didn't think it was cool. It wasn't called the cash. I was called auto sell on. And they had a magazine back when magazines were pumping. And I I bought them. And I was like gangster cars and shit. Like a lot really loud and getting kids and shit. I mean, Sam calling gangsters. I mean, they're just nude. They're into cars. They're not like, low rider cars like that from again. Sorry, I'm a gamer's not gangster. I've just found a few questions on that side. Quora.

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Yeah, Korea.

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Some real I mean, this is a this is a really dumb one. Had it companies lose customers writing stupid questions

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like that? Maybe that's I think that that that, like, there's no such thing as a stupid question is true? Because in the sense of some Tim then going to theories around what Customer service is about or retention, that sort of thing?

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And this one, what is the opposite word together?

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separate?

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Yeah, separate segment apart? That's one of them.

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And that's a great use, because surely you can just use like, the source and

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what people asking for, like moments? What was the best drop the mic moment you've witnessed in a business meeting? And so isn't it is a good platform to, like, get great storeys from two?

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Yeah, that's good. I see. This is the problem is if you sit me down a rabbit hole, I'll spend a solid hour on it. It's so good. Like I remember. So when I was working at in Bartow, I would actually use Cora, to work out the most popular questions. So who say around creativity would sort by most popular, and then I would make videos specifically on those types of things. And they are most the answers as a video. So you knew that there was already a built in audience and there was also a bit of interest?

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That's great. Solid strategy.

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Yeah. But I think that Cora, it's a bit like, I've never gotten into, and I've wanted to, but I think that is probably not necessarily the best habit, but read it. I've never been the type of you know, there's some people who, like it, I'll make James probably uses some of those forums and sites. So whatever it is all the time. Whereas, like, I've never like I've visited Reddit, maybe once a month type of deal. But there's people who it's like, that's this social networking of choice just, I can talking to strangers on it.

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So James is suggestion for us is to start our own Reddit. So the subreddit? Yes, it's created the daily talk show subreddit, any? I mean, it'd be great if that's where your audience leaves

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a bad idea actually thinking about what you could do? Because then people could submit storeys, yeah, then we could, people could basically have a hand in shaping what we're talking about.

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And he's thinking is that, that our audience can actually talk to each other on that platform. So you can I love the idea. You can comment back to each other as people who listen to this show, about a moment. And then stuff can be very loud and it is good. It's I mean, it's one of those things creating your own you know, says that there's so many strategies if you have a creative endeavour podcast, YouTube channel, Facebook page, where way you can think about how do you increase your viewership listenership, whatever be build your tribe, and go out and sort of do the mechanics and do the strategy yourself. But then when you see people who are successful in this place, people do it for them. So it's like, dude, go and create it first away, go and do a rated page and get it ready? Or do you focus on building the show between you and I, and it blow up and someone else does it? I don't know. What do you think about that?

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Well, I think that the probably the biggest Miss misstep, I think that people make in this sort of space is they do 10 episodes of something. And then they create a Patreon. And they just don't have the audience. To be able to be making money, like Patreon, for people don't know, is a service where people can back you. So for instance, you could say, every month, I want to give the daily talk show $5 a month. And in return that gives you access to certain things. So we might say, for $5 a month, you'll get an email into your inbox every week of the best parts of the show. For $10 a month, you'll get that plus a live q&a on Google Hangouts or something like that. But I think that people will think, Okay, I need this, I need that. And they add all of these bits and pieces, when, at the beginning, they just need to the best thing that they can do is just have an audience listening to them.

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Yeah. Yeah, true.

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But I love this Reddit idea, because it reminds me, you know how, when we started, I referenced one of my favourite shows growing up, that was online, it was called geek nation. And it was started in around 2004 2005. And it was just Kevin, a guy named Kevin Rose, who founded dig dot com. And another guy, Alex Albrecht, who's sort of a gaming dude. And what they would do is they would go every week, and they would do the top storeys on digg.com. So be the equivalent of today, like digg.com and read it was sort of competing. And at the time, I think Digg was actually even bigger than Reddit. So if you went to a website, remember how you would embed a Like button on an article or something on a blog post? Yeah, remember that. So like, especially for me, who was like making, like, I had a blog, you'd have like the social buttons where people couldn't just share the the post, but there was a time where I think they may have shut it down. I haven't seen it in a long time. But you'd actually be able to like a blog post of being away from Facebook. And yet, there was a button that was a dig this button. So you'd be basically like submitting it to Digg or sort of uploading it. Anyway, so yeah, so Digg nation would just do the top store every week, they would just cover the stock, the top storeys on Digg, so the equivalent of us going on to Reddit and doing the top storeys.

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Yeah, it's a I mean, learning Reddit isn't another thing. I don't think it's too much time on Reddit.

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Yeah, I mean, I

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like as I said, not not too much. But it's a very easy platform to understand. You've got categories that are like subreddit. And so you could be in the subreddit, that's, you know, documentaries, or subreddit, like filmmaking or podcasting, and you can see everyone talking. I think that part of the risk with some of these things is you can I'm not entirely conspiracy theory, I'm guessing Jim. Yes. Right into like the conspiracy theorists subreddit.

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I'm sure he's dabbling there.

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Yeah. And I think that may be that some a little bit harder. I think that maybe this sort of community like it thrives with that sort of stuff. But

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maybe I like I'm just looking at rid of now. And I, maybe, I know I felt this in the past when I've gone to the site. It's not a visually appealing visually appealing website. Like it's text heavy. It's like the old format blog. Yes, I it's RSS feeds. Yeah. 100% for this kind of information, but it's, I know that it's probably a bad habit. But like, you know, it's like looking through a newspaper Nicola just flicking the pages until something grabs your eye, and it's most likely some image. So you relying on it, not not the written form to capture your attention, whereas these have very much you reading, you have to read all the headlines. But this one, not really Joshi, I need a hand hold. Number one, this is this is number one on Reddit homepage. Yeah, it's been voted 23,000 times, in houses way household disinfectants they used at least weekly. babies have different gut bacteria. And they're more likely to be overweight, at age three. And that's from the medicine character category. Interesting. So I'm just I'm looking at my account. And it says,

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I am I'm, it says your account is too new to create a subreddit, which is fun. It's definitely not too new, because I've probably had it since for like 10 years, but or maybe like maybe six or seven years. Cuz that's right. When I was working on faith angels, the radio show, that was sort of a tactic was, if we had any beginning on, you're going to sub you're going to read it and you would you would add it. But let's get let's get Jimmy to get the daily talk show subreddit, because he will have enough points.

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No, I don't think he does. I don't think he actually saw signs. In

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fact, I'm kidding me.

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I don't think we like the signing only because you to reply, like you can go on as user without logging in, I think. And it's more just to actually interact and stuff. I'll have to double check, but I'm pretty sure he I asked him at that point. He smashed his phone on the table with a hammer and said the listening

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would be talking about the phone. You updated to iOS 12. No, I haven't yet.

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I should I

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it's awesome. I love it doesn't feel like for the first few seconds, it like took a little bit to swipe across like it seemed a little bit delayed. I'm like, fuck you apple. But I'm looking at that. The actually my favourite feature, this is the number one thing so far is it has integration for services like last pass. So you know how Apple has key chain, and you'll be able to just access your password from key chain. Yep. So I didn't want to use Apple's key chain. That's not where all my passwords are. My passwords are with last pass. And so now you can go to if you go to our website, you can. There's a little button that says passwords on the top of the keyword, a keyboard, you click on that. And then it logs you into last pass. You use your thumbprint. And it auto fills.

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Let's see. Yeah, it's so much easier because I yeah, I use last semester, to be honest. And the other I just somehow I have heaps of passwords in that key chain, or whatever it is. I didn't even know it was happening.

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I don't like like,

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I would like to claim that shit up even after getting the that email with with the password. I was like I need to there's probably half a dozen accounts, I still have that a super old that have just never updated. So I just want to go in and I'm going to create new passwords for all the other stuff as well.

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Yeah, I think it's, you know, that requires some dedicated time sitting down like locking your time out and almost creating a spreadsheet because if I look at my last path, the amount of different things that I have a password for, it's only until you start keeping those having a service like last month that you realised Holy shit. No one like no one no one could remember that except Todd, Todd Samson,

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Samson, but he's not going to be around to still remember our passwords, and I think that'd be handy. That's enough it being too. He was on a show called brain training. Or he has he had a TV show called brain train train around train your brain. I think he's got let's see. I can't remember retrain your brain. Yeah.

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Unbelievable.

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Yeah, for

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the last city or whatever you call it.

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Yeah, he can learn how to remember a whole deck of cards in the order that he was shown.

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cycle is either got some sort of memory sharp, or he's just bought a magic trick from penguin magic. He

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has just quickly 711 video, how's it going?

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Oh, yeah, I didn't get to that yesterday, but I I did post it blind at wide open. The video, in short, is basically showing that 711 have a range of coffees, one, two and $3. And each of them a different sizes, medium, large, supersized. And may and Ryan john, we bought a supersize the $3 one, and then had a cup, which was the $2 Cup. And the $3 Coffee fits into the $2 sized coffee. So it's like, why you paying the extra dollar.

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Have you had anyone comment with a theory on what why that's the case?

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No, but I did message 711. I sent it I sent this message this morning to 711 and said, Hi. I'm just wondering why a $3 Coffee fits into a $2 cup. Please explain thanks.

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And I wrote back I can

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now they wrote back. And here's the thing, they I posted the video on my Instagram as well. And I got a I got a message back I didn't eat that was I tagged him in the post, right. But I didn't send a direct message like I did on Facebook, throwback to the Instagram account first. And then I saw it come off my facebook account. And they just copied and pasted. They literally copied and pasted exactly what they wrote. So you can tell it's such a generic response as well.

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We can talk yet about the copy and paste incident that we had yesterday in order

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to tie that will draw that one out live. still playing out

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to everyone.

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Oh, hang on. I gotta read several Evans response.

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I yeah. What Yeah, what do they say? So they, so mine was just just quickly say how I'm doing that a lot. I'm getting to the daily talk show happy. You so uh,

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yeah, that's a good name. I know you like the name.

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That was it's actually it's a tick. Now you just say the daily talk, sir. I keep thinking you're finishing the show far out. So 711 said, seven Eleven's coffee's outstanding value for our customers. Simple $1 to dollar $3 price points, based around industry standard cup sizes, depending on the product the customer selects. There are different ratios of coffee, hot milk, and milk foam. And the phone does settle over time.

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That was the show. I mean, do you think that that sort of puts an end

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to the being blown right out? Does that sort of make sense? I guess.

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I mean, for me, I don't think it doesn't satisfy me. Well, it's

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literally you're paying an extra buck or whatever for the phone. If you like foam, you get that it's like if you a large coffee. If you want a stronger coffee, you don't get a large you'd get a small with it like a double shot.

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Yeah.

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Then Yeah, I mean, people are getting into it a mindset saying, riding to 711 desk, one assume assuming your $1 to dollar and $3 is an industry standard small, medium and large. What are the cup units in regards to volume in millilitres? I mean, this is this is the conversation. This is the fighter of picked.

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Can you actually maybe give it a crack with McDonald's? I want to say MC cafe do they the same shit happen with them?

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Well, they machine so you could just say you want it filled higher if they fucked it up.

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You know,

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what do you may have said it will 711

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DIY machines yet McDonald's they baristas they like so there's there's not a comparison to McDonald's. I don't think because

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there were any other big companies doing the machines called you. They're doing it too. Okay, so you got that one wrong open, we can come down hard on them. Maybe wait until Amy decides to move on for account current job client. If this happened, you can tell that I'm slowly getting back into to work because all of a sudden we're starting to think about all of our clients and we can't say anymore.

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Yeah, yeah. it's um

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it's a daily talk show now do you think oh, yeah, go

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Go for it.

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And daily talk show everyone. We do not we haven't plugged in a while the email address height the daily show.com.

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So and that is very

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tasty. I'm came to get this subreddit going. I think that's an awesome way to actually manage what we talk about. Like just as a way of each day, we can go in and pick up bits and pieces. And he go I've got to take my cake today for my Reddit account is actually July 21 2011. That's when I signed up to read it. Apparently my account is still too new to create a subreddit. How the hell do you have to be early? Seven years old. So I my guess is it's probably just because my activity I've literally posted Yeah, 1234 things on my account.

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Well, how are you haven't set trolling a few more people and then they'll allow it perfect.

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Alright, well, I'll try and work this out. Because by tomorrow, I want us up and running with a subreddit. Because I think that's a I love that idea. Jimmy. Let's make it happen today. Talk Show. Have a good one. We'll see you tomorrow. Bye.