- September 12, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Wednesday September 12 (Ep 172) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
Cones or cups, our mate rebrands his Instagram account, Google reviews, Josh comments on a post by Dick Smith and are hotel aggregators stealing money from the Aussie economy?
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conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Johnson and Tommy. It's a daily Talk Show Episode 172. Tommy jacket. You a cone or a cup guy. What are we talking about here? We're talking about ice cream. Oh,
well, you know what? I've been a cup guy. Majority of my life. I'm starting to hit that cone. I'm starting to just allow those. That extra little nibble at the end all something sweet. And you get a little bit of ice cream down in that real you know, bottom of the cone and he just a little bit of Chucky in the bottom if you're going for Primo time, or it has Yeah, it has to be Wi Fi. It can't be both cardboard. Yeah. Yeah.
He's doing bargain. Cardboard nowadays.
I don't know. It's what I was pretty standard. Yeah. I mean, it's what they get kids because kids don't respect the con. You know, it's like probably wouldn't get him a waffle a lot. Because you'll end up just like having a few nibbles and throw it at the wall. So um. Yeah, you get to choose wisely. Complete waste that cut their current probably dollar that wife Oh, I love the smell. Now you've got me. You got me going. Hey. Um. Yeah, by the way, you you.
I mean, people can't see this audio. But you got uncle fester vibes,
Einstein. Now he may. Now you've got Einstein, Vancouver festers bold Ryan he's bald I meant Einstein
there's a movie called because of my hair yeah
not long fuse uncle fester with Albert Einstein yeah it true
but I mean I think uncle fester is the one in that what show was it was fairly Addams Family a little ball looks
it looks like your total
Do you recognize you were telling me not to cut it before New York yeah well growing yeah cuz we can go to Obama he got Obama it's looking good I mean just slick it back and you'll be looking at you in the mafia Hey update on the American trip I'm not coming now I am just kidding You shouldn't say if I was is there actually an update yeah update I've launched my esta my travel laser for America funnel fact
you had to put in or no. And it gave you the option. This is where they they tricky. It's a tricky question on those like forms. You gonna feel that they've got the, you know, highlighted read sections that you have to empty details you have Trick question is the one that says have you been involved in terrorism? It's the it's the dumbest trick ever. Because who is actually taking that box? I want to how many people they caught on getting an s an ester form. Like by taking that
it's like a you carrying like, explosive, you know, materials like Yeah, well, if I probably was, I wouldn't want to tell you so know
that probably like, you know, what if 1% of you know, terrorists actually take that they are terrorists. Yeah, I guess it's worth putting on there.
Well, I'm asking you need to or they say tell us you social media. What do you want your an Insta you and feisty. Yeah, you've had another we spoke about this. Do you actually did you put your profiles? Yeah, so all I put was my Insta I didn't want to get into the nitty gritty of Snapchat and all that shit. So
you just get like i said i can use Snapchat let me just really focus on my end tell them to look at your Insta stories as well
here's the thing it's it you don't actually have to put anything but I was like they're Americans they gonna think that everyone has social media regardless and so I was like I'll put one account you know it's family friendly there's some nice shots of my baby My wife landscapes couple of drying shots it's like do you reckon I have actually have someone reviewing this and going What are we looking at what are we looking for we're looking for that bikini model who's got 12 mil that's going to try and you know still some work off some other bikini models in Li like what are they What do you think maybe it'd be at risk at that point because of your you've got model vibes yeah yeah no I mean the if I go back far enough cell phones and ma'am shoe string bikinis elsewhere
i do i do like that are made Tommy has done a bit of a rebrand where he's of you saying he new Instagram account. Yeah. Yeah, Tommy. Tommy does good things up Tom. Probably
a boy. He's got Tom primal. And then he's got Tommy Davidson. And then he's done. underscore Model Model modeling.
I haven't seen that. And yeah, right. There is no getting nothing to
I've got nothing to add to that. But I I didn't feel comfortable for whatever reason. If it was Tommy Davidson. I would have given it a follow even with the sort of shots is putting on there but Tommy Davidson
model it feels like I'm being like bit pervy or something. It's got like an it seems like I'm treating him a bit like a piece of meat. Yeah. Well,
no one can get away with any slight sniff of a rebrand without you Without you. smelling it. Like it's probably onto it is. I mean, that's a tactical choice. He's a professional model. If you if you will. He makes you know, good coin. It's easy. It's easy. It's easy. Bread, bread, bread winning. I don't know what I'm saying. But he doesn't eat bread.
And I'm looking at the photos. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Highly, highly hybrid.
So that's the update on America. I'm fucking pumped. It's now not even two weeks. A little bit over two weeks. One Two yet, and I'm very excited. It's tomorrow. We have Trevor long on the show who's coming to us live from Cupertino. Yeah. San Fran. That's outside of San Fran is that uh. Yeah.
I don't like I always cringe when people say San Fran, because I remember hearing years ago that someone from San Francisco saying that you shouldn't say San Fran. Yeah.
Assad now you haven't got the San Fran bit. Okay. I get it San Francisco. But is it needs a potato? Potato is
this is. Yeah, Cupertino. I think he's. It's in Silicon Valley. Let's have a look. Cupertino, Jesus has gone down a rabbit hole. I'm on a Indian furniture website that when I say that, Cupertino. It's a city in California, which we knew. It's just I think it's nice. And how is that which is close to Mountain View, which is you know, where the Palo Alto all that sort of stuff. So yeah, it's very close to San Francisco. But it's actually it's not in in San Francisco. And so too long. He's, he's over there. There's a few announcements happening. Yeah,
Apple's got new phones, probably a new watch. And so he's going over there as the Yeah, one of the reps for Australia to report back to all the meteor about what Apple's announced. And we've somehow convinced him to come on to the daily talk show and tell us all the gossip and we can
talk all things Apple,
I mean, he's, he's the evolution of Josh Jansen as a child like if you were to stay on that path with what you were doing. Yeah, he's your hero, isn't he? Yeah, yeah,
he's like the the Melbourne gig after speaking yesterday about being on Melbourne talk radio, I went down this rabbit hole as I was waiting for the podcast to upload where I was listening to me talk about technology and then I found a podcast that I did from 2007 where I was singing the song irreplaceable but yes Trevor if if I had gone down the tech route would basically be traveling long
yeah yeah did he make an Ask him yesterday I'll say I was gonna ask you something about Trevor but I'll just ask him tomorrow when he's on the show so yeah
fact the the time zones are really fighting with you like what we're asking me yesterday
yeah so you
bless him for us as well i'm i'm tired today I was thinking before it's like it some days you wake up tired I didn't even have a bad sleep but sometimes it's like I've just put the wrong fuel in my car and I woke up and this is feeling a bit creaky Swede how you just some days are better off some days a good but I tell you what man when you have a coffee perky backup you know I know I'm definitely so yeah well it's more for the budget than anything but um. Yeah it's a it's live just I was feeling a bit off but coming back to it hey I'm this is thanks to drive time radio show in Melbourne that I've stolen the the content idea but I thought it was a cracker and it's very much something Tommy jacket would do
they Michelle team and Maddie they were talking about reviews and you know we've spoken quite a bit about some some funny reviews that have come through for some interesting places but I'm annoyed that I didn't think of this to look at the the Google reviews on prisons in Victoria Australia so people like can just jump on and like there's a place called Raven whole prison which you would have driven past it's on the I think it's on the ring road just outside of the city in Melbourne. And so it's you go past it every time I drive us in prison I drove past one a couple of days ago when I was coming back from kayak and I always like have this feeling when I look over at the prison I just go into this real deep thought the people in there and the and the path that they are on and that they just locked away and they just you know at this this crossroad of their life journey and they've either really fact Apple made some stupid mistakes and I'm just getting into that mindset of like okay they're probably all in a bed right now it's it's weird but anyway this is this is another perspective on that because you can read the reviews and Raven whole prison currently 2.8 stars
and some of them some of them are fucking funny. So it's 13 reviews have been submitted
already. I'll radio capital think these are the juice Do you get a vibe that they're legit? Well, you can tell me Here we go. This was a month ago. Four Star rating, not bad. excellent facilities. meals were average staff with some somewhat average fellow guests were more accommodating overall much more better than other like hotel so that
was okay that was Dijk also he said hotel so he's taking the hit
he said this is rat hunter even he's given it through says I'd like to go to prison name I would kill to go there safe secure and loving environment hot and cold running cockroaches and buffet style a tree
and zero fox
is excellent for family Diane however the service was poor kitchen is only open three times daily for 45 minutes
fit I do you think that it would actually be interesting to get ex prisoners to write their facilities like to tell us what it was like? Yeah,
I mean, yeah, I mean that that would be interesting. These these are somewhat funny, but it's like what when I was schooled by McCall who was been to some of the maximum security prisons when he was on the podcast and it was a fun interview when I asked him what these favorite crime what
what's your problem of choice crime of choice
at that moment EP pocket now? Yeah, now that was insensitive. Josh, you should have been and I bet No, I'm joking. No, I think he he found that I mean, I think it's like he doesn't want to glorify anything that he was doing. And one of the things that he highlighted when I said our prisons for rehabilitation and he was very stern on the fact that they're not and I think that the problem was when their private facilities where their businesses and and people are making money keeping costs down things. Yeah, they look at the owners are looking at it like okay, they're probably thinking, how can we, you know, the food how can we make it cheaper and and get away with not a not being inhumane Australian prisons are probably much, you know, much better than most places. But still, they're not on them. Yeah, they're not hotels. But and
so no, this isn't completely the same. But I remember when I was SRC president one of the big issues that I had was the, the canteen for the school was actually run by an independent company. So trying to get anything sort of through they wouldn't be so accommodating when I had feedback as if, you know, instead of if they were actually employed by the school so they completely can run
what we tried to get what we kind of get across the board you want to try
now i was i was all about the healthy eating I was a little fat kid and I would have canteen meals every day eating nachos and stuff. But there was a big push one of the things was around removing fried food but then managed to get around that by having Oh pray fried like chicken tenders and stuff that like are they actually biked so. So like high, but I I found I think I've spoken on this sort of May, early days of the show. I spoke about this, but I found an old email that had a document attached with all of my suggestions for healthy options at the school cancer.
And my favorite, my, my favorite item that I wanted them to include as a healthy option was milkshakes. Yeah.
Which just sort of gives you a bit of a sense of where my my headspace was. Yeah,
I was working at a hot I am not hot chocolate. Yeah, it's like a chocolate company making a video. They specialize in dark chocolate. They started in hot chocolate, and it's unbelievable. It's, it's called more chocolate. But, um, I got the vibe, you know, a few people came in, and one person came in while filming in their, in their active way. And, you know, it was very much you could tell the, you know, the thought around it's like, the, it's like the the crack for the person that's trying to be healthy is that dark chocolate, it's like you you get these such a cult following like that, seeing the chocolate as a as a health, you know, a health food but it's like the it's like the trait. It's interesting where, yeah, we're having this meal replacements. But yeah, pretty much it's I mean, you've done it and it's an ad better than downing you can. I can milk chocolate that's got 90 kilos of sugar in it. But it's funny how things that like, especially when you're on dots, it's like if you're it's like bodybuilders. They get protein protein bars and protein powders become crack because it's like it's the it says an audience ego and what's the deal with this is an audience you got is going to be the title of today's episode.
It's really gotten pride in in Melbourne. You your faces beautifully lit up. Thanks. Right. It's 2627 and the sun is rising earlier as we head towards you feel free to turn off your car light. I'm slightly worried that one day you're gonna you pal was gonna fuck up on the time, you know, can be able to get to work. But the the 85% chocolate is by far my go to. And I feel like it's one of those things I can age. Even if I was to eat a whole block. I it's not going to be too much damage. Yeah,
but if you're not getting your other meals, I mean, let's not go down that rabbit hole. But yeah, there is a will that we can replace the 85% in our in our office when we're back in town with a few factor protein shakes. Or I might get a bit naughty. I've actually found there's a new product Oh my god, a white to get back. We can try it
protein. You'd have to wait. Now. I just can't be bothered going to buy it. We can do it together. Make a video. It's protein moose. It sounds full on chocolate mousse. Well, there's a will there's like packet. So you can get like vanilla or chocolate and you and you can we split up in water and it goes thick. And then you put into the fridge and it's like it's moose.
Now this is like can I had a cousin that would eight canned burgers. Oh no. That's not like him. Why? Or why like microwaved burgers. Even I remember as a kid like, it's so disgusting. You'd get them out of the phrase on your zap them in the microwave and brace just yelling at sanctuary that is like it is so just like even me as a little fat kid who would eat anything. And I was like, the idea of just being able to have a freezer full of bug is was the dream. I remember. I hated one up and I was like,
it just reminded me of something that like astronauts with eight Yeah, shit food. Well, I mean, the the stuff they are eating is probably it's a lot more nutritious than that I get what you mean though, it's like that we'd we'd style it's like long life process like Who the hell as spam like
who waits that Mason k i guess i'm really curating my mic. Nice on who has a lot of bad dietary habits, a spam and he grew up in a third world country. So I think that he's, um, he sort of got used to maybe doing that sort of shift. It's, it's really
his eye on if they're on the shelves at Kohl's and all the someone's buying it. Someone has to be buying it. And I mean, if if you're eating it, because you've got money problems, I get it. Okay. baiting it rice
and beans that are probably just as cheap, right? Yeah, yeah,
I mean, eight so much rice and beans. This is very boring. Mix it up. Not getting back in naughty with some spam. It's
so naughty. Today,
I made the mistake of commenting on a Facebook video. That was sort of a bit of a call to action. Dick Smith today, a video which my mom shared, which was him talking about how these international American companies are written, ripping off Australian motels and hotels. So he's talking about the what ifs and Expedia and booking.com and he's saying that the 20 and 30% commission is extortion. And he was saying that Cole up motels instead of booking through the services because they will be able to beat the price it was going on and on and on. what's what's your tip from the surface? What's your take on it? Yeah,
I would not I don't see them as extortion. I see them as a business
convenience model for the for the customer. I've tended to do what he says I tend to call the place because it sometimes just easier depending on where you are. If you haven't got an account through whatever, for whatever whatever booking platform it is.
And so I have given up push back in the past. But then I like Amy uses those things. And it's booked for us through them and ends up just being so much easier. So if it actually is easy to use the platform,
I'm just looking for what is easiest and we'll save some money. So I will do I think,
but I think the concern that I so the reason he saying it's extortion is because basically the websites are buying up the ad space so that if you type in a hotel or motel The first thing that you will see is these booking sites and you booked through them and then they take a bit of the coin but I decided to write a comment Oh yeah, and I said
the irony of ticket posting this on Facebook a big international business that does the same things he describes doesn't mean that we need to go back to reading everything in the newspaper to support local advertisers was my experience with going direct contradicts his opinion that it leads to a better price I also think requiring everyone to pick up the phone is a bit backwards to have that we encourage better digital literacy within Australia How about we teach local motel owners how to control their online presence these hotel websites give hotels access to millions of potential customers they provide a platform safeguards and a communication system in return they get Commission on each booking resisting technologies and the answer
is fact and having a bit of a girl with deep
well yeah dick you've been a dick it's
I got a I got a comment back from a lady named Belinda Do you know Belinda and she just now and Belinda rights. You really didn't listen? Did you? At that point? I was on a boat packing on a way to an island in crow I'm just not an issue. I just deleted my comment. Um, I actually what am I trying to achieve by writing on this on this Facebook post?
He is he's um. He's whole Facebook pages. Dick Smith's fake Oh yeah. He's just his truck he just wants to be the Ozzy battler. Alright, guys, come on back and lost a couple hundred million. It's on the one
on the one. What's the deal with it? How we meant it? Because I don't know how I feel about like, I understand. Yes, Australian jobs are important stuff like that. But a little bit of globalization and competition and all like, isn't that a good thing? Like, how much do you think that we should be resisting? And sort of creating barriers to these types of things? Yeah,
I think you're right. I just don't think they say that perspective at all. The pushback will only lead to it being so lose saw loss for them. Yeah,
it's fascinating, though. Because, I mean, I don't get it. I booked my flights for America through one of those platforms is hundreds of all these, you know, flight booking platforms. And I jumped onto Qantas who I'm flying with and through their direct website, they're charging like three hundred bucks more. And so I mean, for in that circumstance as if as a customer as if I'm going to go with Qantas when I'm just booking through another platform and getting quantities anyway, it's a so it doesn't really make sense to me. And so maybe that's where this pain comes from, for the people that are the motel and are these you know, how do you get on Google? Who pine like how does anyone have like a business way stay between Melbourne and Sydney every year when we drive up for Christmas or New Year's to Sydney, where Amy's family and every one of those motels like on those sort of halfway point
yeah, my first reaction when you said that was I'm like fuck, how are we gonna do the daily talk? I
have had that sort of like I'm going away but then I realized you you've been in Europe for months and we've managed to do the show so if we're in the biggest power move may doing it for three months is just a massive power move to call you up on Christmas and be like my he good at your end. I've got the zone he good to record
we probably will end up doing it. It's on a Tuesday Christmases I've achieved obviously so I'll get a cheeky early morning and unwrapping episode. Yeah. So you
go to Sydney so if you drive up to Sydney every sort of news yeah and
and all the hotels all the little motels this show many along the way hundreds on these like midway point and a lot of them are booked out and I and I just look at them though like some of them you know the internet's horrible they wouldn't really grasp how to do the booking staff and yeah they're not literate when it comes to digital and being progressive that digital space so you could you could see how hard it would be like you know what it's like dealing with some all the people that don't really understand it's like they just don't have with these iCloud password yeah they just don't have the understanding you and I've been I mean the new generations bodies' Bernie knows how to skip ads in YouTube He's a fucking 19 month old child he knows the ski bed but you saying just like trying to hit this skip Add button like crazy and so the so
the new generation X is going to go and get he's gonna get over it and just get YouTube premium
dad that Sachs but I can see how it would be very scary for these people and and that response you know the dicks responses he's an old guy he doesn't get it. Yeah I mean look at what Cogan I mean coding didn't do it to him but the other retailers
and online platforms like Hogan is a perfect example of you know, sort of a young
tech entrepreneur who is just disrupted these old business models. And that's the bennies game you know he's had Jerry Harvey's come into Harvey Norman always like he took he took out like ads in the newspaper saying Cogan will be if you if you quote a price cheaper than Cogan will match it and that was like any head like I think he even named some of the outlets if you find a paper saying I savvy Norman will baited yeah
imagine what they said that if if we can pay to get that get it for free. I That's right. Yes. Just like which is just so funny. It's so gimmicky. Like Of course you just gotta charge a little bit less like which fuck areas band last night I want it for this process. And that not we can't do it might not you got a fact and door or try. We're not fucking doing it. So it looks like you can have to. Well, I get it for free. people walked
out with a free TV. Yeah. And then I mean the people that sort of onboarding people to using a platform like his to buy these products. And so it's I mean, it's, it's a scary it's been a scary time for people. And I think I loved your comment. It made a lot of sense. I want to watch the video because I want to know if you were actually not listening.
Well, yeah, have a listen ever, like go to like, would you know what, like, because I've got empathy. And the other thing too is when I was watching it, I was like, yeah, this makes sense. Like It Is it took a lot of me to disagree with him. But it was because he was speaking in this matter of fact, like he was saying like the these international businesses, they're on their yachts and they just their computers are going ding ding ding and it's all money millions of dollars coming out of local communities in Australia like you know it's very hyperbolic Oh yeah. Have you want to describe it but it's it was yeah I just found that it was missing some of those key elements which is I don't necessarily disagree with that one I disagree with ease that we should customers need to start using the phone to fucking book I don't think that like I think that the solution to this is actually saying okay whether it's maybe you know government intervention where the government says okay like rather than stopping these things rather than saying okay we're going to put we're going to you know force you know, the these these different things on these companies Why not say actually let's double down the energy on getting you know, these towns
educated around the you know, online space and I feel like that would provide so much more positive activity and longevity rather than just waiting for the next technology to disrupt them.
Yeah and and from living in Shepperton and work on the radio there there was a lot of portion ad advertising around shop local and when I was in a trigger over the weekend I said to me will driving down the main street and in regional towns you say like just the types of shops a very unique you know that there is just weird little trinkets stores and this is a bunch of clothing stores
and I'm saying these people are in trouble like as soon as a giant like Amazon works out how to get people all these products are in these stores which they totally can cheaper delivered to their door in regional Victoria, which is a possibility every one of these stores will be gone like there will be it's crazy and so that push around shop local, it's Yeah, it's a weird thing. Because you want people to have jobs in these communities. And that is what the campaign of shop local is encouraging, you know, spend your money here spending money within the town so towns and keep going. But it feels like it is a there is it's diminishing because of technology. And it's not going to change. Like, we don't have a crystal ball. But if you were to make predictions, it cyphy it's probably safe inside we can get worse. Well, it's only going to get Yeah,
there's going to be new words from his perspective, you know, yeah, yeah, it's Yeah,
it's hundred percent only gonna get worse.
Well, I'm just getting on a boy you
think about like, I think that the next form of disruption is going to be two marketplaces. I think that like the web where I think blockchain and stuff will end up going where people can, you know, have a secure way to make transactions and stuff like that. I think that I'm hoping that where it goes is that rather than it being a few companies that are making all of this commission and money that it's actually that it becomes a sort of more one to one interaction, and it becomes a big sort of, it almost becomes a bit more community focused. But, um, I just thought it was a little bit ironic that Dick Smith was saying all of this on Facebook, he's doing a video on Facebook, that ease and you think about the advertising, you know, you think about that whole system and the fact that Facebook, you know, controls who sees that content and, you know, he has to pay more money to be seen by more like, it's, it's, it's pretty hypocritical. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, plays dick, bring back your I'm pretty sure he did the chase at one point. That was when he was really go bankrupt. Do you know what actually Brie was asking that? Yeah, I don't know. But he's the Dick Smith. Peanut butter is actually pretty good.
I don't know if it's still around them. Before we go. I've had this on the trailer for for a couple of days. Just as Josh Johnson on Twitter. I got I got tweeted at which had a lot of traction. It's I'm not very popular on Twitter. I did. I am back in Melbourne. geek days back in that I think was 2012 I did this article talking about Twitter followers. This is like there's almost be a resurgence of all of this in Instagram world and also think but it was around everyone was saying influence based on how many numbers of followers you had. And so I bought a heap and did this whole article. Yeah, anyway. But the actual amount of followers like I think I've got probably 18,000 followers, there's probably only over the user probably accumulated maybe 3000 legitimate
followers, and they're not very engaged. But I got this tweet that mentioned me that has been liked 12345 600
like over 10 times. And it says
congrats to our NFL coach quarterbacks at Josh chance. And an injury hunt solid men. Unfortunately, there is a guy coming up he
us foot football with the exact same name as my
classic and he's a quarterback or he's, he's involved. Yeah. NFL or like football over in the States. Yeah.
The other thing is that I feel like I've got a stronghold in the sense of I've got the.com I've got all the cert like he's gotten no room to move. What is it like it unless he starts calling himself Joshua? I think we're just gonna have to accept the fact like, how annoyed would you be if there was a Tommy jacket that was really
popular or going hard online, it'd be so fucking annoying, especially if you are venturing into doing media and and doing this this stuff. I mean, you've had it since you for two years, although he bought your first domain, and
bodies' age, but he's he's a skip button on YouTube ads. You were purchasing domains.
Man, I do love a man. I've got some daily talk show is my new favorite one. Yeah, I have it set up the redirect. But I think that's it's a good URL shortener thing. Yeah, it is good to daily talk show everyone tomorrow Trevor Long live from the apple event I'm guessing you probably be just outside the event it will be a few hours after is a heard all the information but we'll be talking iPhones the Apple Watches if you've got a question send it to us height the daily talk show.com and TJ I want to ask Trevor what he thinks about the idea of may potentially moving to Android in the next couple of months well as it sucks out I want me what he has to say is you just you don't want to miss the not having the blue bubble anymore when we chat that's not the main reason is that it yeah
I'm at right now it's not happening because we are new business if we need to be sending stuff through quick and easy through I message airdrop now pain
in the ass airdrop. None of that stuff I'm thinking about the new pixels coming out soon so I'm interested in that I think I like the idea of the Google accounts and having Google Photos and YouTube and all of that shit but yeah
I've already got my iPhone my phone right now
you can't even open if I can find with some glasses on it's a mess No I can't I actually can't
I get little breakouts so nice detections fact yeah okay. Okay if I go to daily
talk show everyone have a good one will say tomorrow. Hey guys.