#114 – Losing weight and all his money – Geoff Jowett/
- June 22, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Friday June 22 (Ep 114) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
You might recognise our guest Geoff Jowett’s distinct voice. In the mid 2000s he was prominent on Australia’s biggest morning TV shows, selling his weight-loss solution, Bodytrim. Through drug, alcohol and sex addiction, Geoff lost it all. His rock bottom experience has helped him create a new life for himself; with an ego in check and a greater mindfulness of what life really is all about.
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with Josh Janssen and Tommy jacket.
It's a daily talk show. This is a this is a pre record. We've got Jeff Jarrett. How I fantastic great lovely.
So So good to see we're in your hotel room here in Melbourne.
And can I just say you'd like to have rocked in doing Melbourne fashion justice look like two models about into the bus driver. I was having my breakfast little Ozzy batlin from Sydney four foot tall no here and two dead set Gucci models balling you'd like snow on the a killing it
move the muscles either Jeff. It's true. I tried
him any day of the week for your boat race, aka face.
It's just it's tough above the shoulders for Rosie Jeff, but he does what he can with these rig.
So if people are hearing the voice and they're saying Fuck, I know that voice. They might be like me back when I was 1617 years old. I would be watching morning TV. And there was a guy and I would sit and just for whatever reason when the infomercials would come on. When this guy would come on your turn it up and you'd hear him talk about cookies and protein. My goodness. Well protein
buys cookies bought and more CO now what can be better than a free trial today offer this
in the first seven days or it's free, you don't even have to send it back.
So you were the voice of a company that you co founded and I was
also Dave, Dave Hughes love child
compared to diabetes many times and there's Antonio sabato jr good comparison. Yeah, debuts average Yeah, that are not God bless him now very, very good, funny man. But Yama knockabout and other voice is very, like easy. Yeah. Quiet recognisable only for all the wrong reasons. But yes, it was pacing back in the day early morning shows the morning show mornings with Carrie in the circle, non non am David and Kim Fox to lead a huge amount of TV for body trim, which was my weight loss coaching programme, circa 2007.
Yeah. You mentioned before how many people signed up for the programme right? There was
a million was a name it a
million people bought the DVD
and then how many people would have watched the DVD right? Because like I remember hearing you talk about probably 3 million people actually end up watching it because gets pasta right? Like, back in the day, you'd have a David every day today.
We did a study on it. And from the jail at clinic.
clinic, but we did do a survey and
it was literally like 2.7 people. For everyone who bought it 2.7 people? Yeah, watched it. So roughly, you know, 2.7 million people probably had eyeballs on the education, body trim, and a huge amount and a huge amount of people lost lost weight because it was it was weight loss education. Based on hunter gatherer diet. It was a bit before paid Evans and, and paleo but again, it was not as extreme but was like a modern day approach to hunter gatherer diet that not dumb down but just just made easily, easily digestible for people that don't understand food.
Yeah. And so it was a describe what it was. It was it was a programme.
Yeah, it was a programme that I came up with when I started working on it. And I was six because I was in the fitness industry love that did that for a bunch of years did okay. And then I wanted to get into weight loss because a lot of people were coming into the personal training studios that we had wanting to lose weight. But really, as a bodybuilder, I knew that whitelists was more food than it was lifting heavy weights and whatnot. So I wanted to get an education programme at so. And I've done a lot of seminars myself from a stage, what's that? What are not create DVDs. So we did we created DVDs, and the first one was half, half a dozen DVDs and a reference guide and a book on a predominant type measure in a website hundred and 50 bucks. And we mainly promoted it and it was great because it wasn't pills or potions or, or powders or anything. It was education. And it was interesting night, because we had a big coast and we'd have like 80 people in a call centre in Sydney and it just hear him Oh, no, there's no most of them are Irish in English. And you know, no, no, there's no pills in it. Like it's not the pills. It's the DVDs. And you can tell the other person I'm calling up for the pills. Where's the pills? People looking for that? Yes, yes, it was in the ads. I didn't I never explained that it was DVDs because people want to. Unfortunately, the human condition is one that they want the instant fix. So if I said again, I again I Australia, Jeff Jarrett here, if I got a product for you, you got six DVDs, you got to watch all of them. You can't eat them. You got to watch them. And I'm going to educate you about the role of food and weight loss of TV off. Yeah, how are you doing that? So I talked about speeding up the metabolism. I talked about how to milk body fat, the big ads were building body fat fast, how to get Hollywood sighs all of the benefits, it was all benefit advertising. But the great thing was that they got an awesome product of education when it rocked up in the post. And those that watch the DVDs. Again, they thought Geez, he's relatable. That's good. It was engaged and lost so much weight.
I told you my sister in law's mom has lost a shitload away and it's all because of you it's all because of the Dorito It was a saying around the house can you get the DVD it's it's amazing and so I mean this was very much before its time like 2 million people now people are getting on one video but nowhere near the cut through someone getting a debut day and having to go through that process of putting it in and loading in
different times. And look it's it's all been part of the journey if I if I knew then if I knew then what I know now and if I lived in luck, I'll leave leave now to a different end result we sort of muck the business up towards the end but but early days we got amazing results for people and really life saving like thousands of you know, live says I wrote a book at one stage called myths lies and exercise and I asked for testimonials the day before it went out to print about 572 testimonials overnight, and I'll put them in the management book. Yay, it was
add to the book. Another book.
The book was a bit like four pages
filling up now we worked I mean we probably 20 pages of short testimonials and very very proud.
I remember we were up in Sydney and Tommy was catching up you and he came back from the catch up and he said man this Jeff dude has some storeys and I reckon this is something that the thing that I like when when we filter who we want on the show that type of thing. It's people who are interesting it's not people who necessarily have the most amount of dollars in a bank account it's the people who have had the actual experiences that can we can learn from that that can that can share storeys what what has been through everything that's happened where are you tonight? What's your you know, what do you think about national
Yeah, and it's good to talk about a lot of this stuff because I think my journey there's a lot of learnings for people and I'm very open about it because we're all just doing our best Yeah, back then. For starters, I wanted to be the best I wanted to win I wanted to compete I wanted the biggest brand I wanted the flashiest car oh it was all lived in there you go the whole time I had a desire to help I genuinely like people I always have I get more anxious sitting by myself than around I love people not wanted the status and I bang on about things now you know
was none of the star or where where did that because you have you had vision yes
what happened our vision with my mind Andrew we did really well. After five or six Jesus probably got bored so matter that enough buy me out and then
he did and then and buying you out means you were you have any personal training studios and you
had a couple by then and it was funny This is typical Jeff Jarrett. He laid the square on this thing Yeah, was it typical Jeff Jarrett fuck up luck. We've done all the hard work. And there's me six years in a
row not know very hard.
Not hard, but we were clashing a bit we're great mates now but we're very different. And I was always still only 27 I started that when I was 2122 very very young. I had massive ambition. But I'd had enough for my mid to late 20s he bought me I didn't really want me to go because I was more the the front person for that one and people very good with this I had great relationships with the staff but I was a bit loose anyway but I said look we're not have enough of I went and stuffed around for a year or two and then started body trim but I wanted to prove myself because vision had done well but I left Yeah, so I wanted to go out and prove to everyone what I could do.
And you remember the last day of vision for you
my last day of vision
but yeah, just telling the staff really it was just automates a messy blunders in my life emotional decisions I'll give I'll get them to emotional about things again through my partner they're wonderful bloke champion and and I were great friends now and but you know business partnerships when you're young and full of ego are very hot yeah and that's where I was back then all of Batman are scientists in a seminar yesterday Danny look body trim the big mistakes that I've made and we'll talk more about them but I you know see your part in them at the time. You think the other person's a decade they had to work with right you think it's all the other bloke or the other the other person but when your foot when your ego is driving your they have for every mistake in your life you see so it's not like you know, I've been unlucky 10 times I'm pretty sure on the person who's been with you see if you see a bunch of people and they all seem to be depends. It's that whole thing of you might be the decal Yes. And what was and so so you left you decided to say goodbye like was it sort of? Was it always a big crazy exit? Where did you go down in flames? Or was it pretty control? Yeah, that was that was pretty odd enough it would and even though flames but it was all that enough? Just want to get on with it. Give me some cash was just just not thought out?
was it? Was it sad? We feeling sad? At that point. Do you think frustrated with
actual feeling? Look, I think back then I was relieved at the time because it was was challenging. But it was challenging because in my own stuff you see when you so I'll talk more about addiction addiction and a guy I just can't tell people how bad they are. Most people have some them to everyone's got an ego. But it's awareness. The biggest takeaway from me today is going to be talking about awareness. And it we're going to talk about humility and a whole bunch of stuff but you gotta you gotta have awareness about yourself otherwise you can't see it. I think he's a decade now unlock see mo who I would ever is, but it's you. Everyone's got flaws. We're perfectly imperfect. But back then I was thinking you know, I was always thinking always the victim was the other bloke and it's too hard and you're hard to work with. And yet now and you look back and I learned this from you know, took more about the drinking and whatnot lighter, but someone that I was doing a bit of II with, he said, Look, you need, you know, you need to know that, that in your life, the good and the bad. You've been there for all of it. You got to own your part in it. And that's so important. You got it. You got to be able to sit there and watch it later. I saw this yesterday. Anyone could walk through the room now. And I'd be happy to see him. I got no resentments. And I've made the amends with the mistakes that I've made. And, and its freedom. My definition of success is very different nail and I wanted to be famous back then I wanted status, looked at I want the world to slug I don't have that anymore.
So you left vision with the goal of creating something being show these factors, essentially, I
think at the time I
started body trim, I mean, I the cookie still.
And so how big did that from a financial point of view? How big Did you grow that and I mean, that's all fuel for your ego, essentially, it was bad. I mean, it's the record that you set for yourself year.
my body trim, we go at its peak was doing 35 million in turnover in Australia, and we will we will win 100 plus staff in the city. We lose the biggest was telling a million protein bars a month in calls, because it was a huge brand to like huge brand and but again, he's a bloke who looking back you know in retrospect always had his ego issues and he goes out of insecurity insecurity and fee you know so it has had deep Do you want to go out there you go well, what what's behind the ego insecurity and fee What were you insecure about? Do you think my place in the world was are good enough had the unlucky United lyst as long as my arm I think and and, and not being comfortable in my in myself on hadn't really found my place and always trying to prove myself and maybe mom and dad was school teachers are you know, mom passed away many years ago but a lot and I love them dearly, but that will quote strict and quiet. I have a perfectionist but maybe nothing was ever quote. Good enough. I was always trying to prove myself and and be someone around getting caught up. But I think a lot of it does come back to some of your earlier years as well and even envision like, Andrew, he'd been in person training for quite a few years, I've got these, I had this ability to come into something and see a gap in the market and just attack it. And people got excited around me and I was good at the front of the business sales, marketing growth. So I'd been a trainer for like six months and Andrew and I teamed up. So I had success came very I'll tell you that success came very easily to me young. I hadn't worked a lot, I got a unit degree. I'm sure I had add of some form. But But you know, I sort of got my way through a Sport Science degree. But we started the business only after six to 12 months and also personal trainer for six months. And I was bored out of my brain. Because the repetition of it. I'm quite creative. Yeah. So just icons a day bench press squatting, one rip to rip three rip, oh my god on it the step
But they didn't. But you know, so I thought this and I stopped Payday after six months. Yeah. Because other I can do this. And then Andrew and I said, Why don't we tell him up. And I did more of the sales and marketing and he did the systems and away we went. So
Josh said that he referenced me telling him about the storeys that come from you. And I was just thinking that I think what is so amazing about all the things we've talked about when we've had coffee, is that it's such a difference in the person who you are now. And so you know, you tell me about like, you mentioned something about the office kind of being like Wolf of Wall Street. Like that movie it was wild, but then I go and I'm so amazed because it's like you and I just chatting about you know life and stuff. It seems such a contrast does it feel like a different persona
again that this is
you know, I don't want to give myself a massive compliment like the changes so when it degree it's so different I it was when that Wolf of Wall Street come out pretty much a lot of the scenes I had lived out didn't have a boat that sank and a whole bunch of stuff but we made a huge amount of money that the lifestyle pretty much everything that went on in that lifestyle that movie happened in my life almost obviously in the movies just like all that happened and and it was just madness and but what happened what's really interesting and this is a point on leadership for people if you're lucky enough to be successful, and you got people around it they get it's contagious and they want to be around it and you got you know people who are feeling conservative and you got 100 staff so you go to Judy of K and we definitely neglected that Judy okay you know that for sure. Lovely to have my don't have strippers coming dressed up as as interviews. To say it was Tommy's birthday. I'd call up a girl and Allison come in with Look, look sharp glasses, little briefcase and you're gonna you're gonna come in and interview for a production assistant role because it's Tommy's 28th birthday or 29th birthday crazy and the whole office and know about it. Chip me Yes. And we had two floors in your extreme and the finance was up on level no and I won't mention the CFO his name because you get divorced but but he but he's he can we come down now I'm not relax relax another 10 minutes any relax. We're not ready yet keep working in the HR department. Might we send them at the lunch back there? Yeah, we sent legal and I cherry up the P I took them out to lunch on those particular days and it filtered back obviously bit later on in the day but to light to light damage was done. But But yeah, anyway, but this silly stuff silly antics like that went on but it was it was it was sort of all in good fun. But I was you know, I was drinking a lot of alcohol all the time and date, man, I wasn't happy date and I wasn't really living my truth. But I hadn't fully worked all that out yet. And I got it was fun. Yeah, it was fun.
It sounds like it's in this sort of quirky way. It sounds like you're also really generous. Like I mean, just even the fact that you're it's a Sunday morning 730 you could be fucking doing anything but you've you know, invited Tommy and it can come and chat to like his generosity being something that has always been present. And do you think it started from a place of ego? Just talking about denial?
Is that such an awesome question. So deep down of always on it sounds cliche, but I've always wanted to make a difference was one and that's vision body trim they were they were at the core great businesses built for the right reasons. Yeah, that was get ticklish and I got ticklish you know the diction and status and and all that so you start over to stop voting because I base people every way I didn't know about food I did. I was motivating you studied
Exercise Science, Exercise Science at uni
PTA of the year I've done all the sort of the usual accomplishments you want every award possible I want a bunch of a win I wanted to really make my mark and but I knew I could help a lot of people but but then all of a sudden, and I'm not blaming anyone other than myself. The Blackboard teamed up with it body trim, super smart. You know, had a fairly fast has had a fairly fast lifestyle, and you can morph into that. And you know and gronk God taught me so much about business. He taught me how to scale and leverage business and but before I knew it, the purity of what I was doing because I have these evangelical ideas, but when I was younger, I can I could easily be come off of course that makes sense. Whereas now it's 7:30am to talk to you guys and share a message absolutely because its purpose I think the two things we need a connexion and purpose and when I've lost connexion and purpose I'm gone
and you've got a high amount of energy so you can either use that energy for good to have a negative right
someone said to me once you might if you use your powers for good to change the world Yeah, if you don't you blow it up. Yeah, so remember, I was at my hairdresser years ago actually when I had hair and ironically but it's true and but so for me and I was saying this to the ladies at breakfast when you guys came in this morning the whole bunch of my members are here at the hotel and I stayed here all weekend. Make sure you take time for you make sure you take time for you. So listen right now no running my entire world is building the Jarrett method because this is this is this is what brings me to life and I want to do so I want to do something that matters on fact a bunch of stuff up in an idea that I fucked that up no one else and I look back at some relationships I fuck them up. I did the wrong thing no one else did the wrong thing and even at the time when I thought it's this blokes photo her photo whatever sure. But I played a massive part in that and I took I took on this stuff and I made it personal and I got emotional
Sarah grieving process for looking back and I think about this with you and I don't I don't think I've said this to you but I like you've got two other businesses you've built a still here and making money and what I mean what have you got from those are good couple of good yarns. How does that tie for you now like have you been through a process?
So always pretty suicidal 2000 and what do we and I you know, in my 16 that's when I met you Yeah, I was fact yours fact you and I met you at cried hapas thing as far
as I said to Josh even since I've known you you've there's been a massive shift here. Thank you and I was fact
because what happened typical May I after Barack Obama came out with another good ID poor execution I did a medical whitelist company that exploded was doctors it was blood tests. It was
exploded in a good way or
a good way. But it wasn't executed well and I'm not a good back office guy. Yeah. You know, I'm great with the big ideas and getting things off the ground but it wasn't taught and and it was was prescription medication, it was blogs, it was Dr consults, it wasn't taught in the back end and and come under scrutiny from some medical lobbyists and they're out there. And I think was the best thing that ever happened to me but it broke me It broke me because I got Channel Nine did a big storey in the news and made me look like a complete shank. And I went into that business with the best of intentions but I didn't have the skills to execute it properly. And it was public and it let people down and and that was around the time I met you but in and then I just and then so I was I was playing catch up in answer the question then, because I'd had a couple of things not work. I've been looking medical whitelist in America was massive, you know, but I wasn't doing it for the right reasons. Know that. On the coach motivator. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a pharmacist, I don't understand it. So I said I'll do coaching and motivating and the doctors will do that. I don't understand it. And then I was the front man. So I was the bloke who really come under the attack enjoy and fair enough. Fair enough because I'll use my profile and and a lot of people did actually lose a lot of white in it and it worked for people still messaged me hard I know what was in them pills, but it worked. But
was in the
we actually had a compound for me to lead that
was I was stimulants. And we use Metformin as well which was good for type two diabetes, we had a bunch of different products that he was really taught and will execute it could have been a brilliant business, but it wasn't and but that was when I met you. We had to shut it down. And Miley came out of one particular medical lobbyist he didn't like he he hated he hates complementary medicine so Swiss black Moore's didn't look but he didn't like any of us other than General Motors general if you know to JP you don't know what you're talking about. So it was it's very conservative and I don't want to be in that space. It was too odd and that was around that you know, but sweet some black Moza got deep pockets and heaps of lawyers and I think right companies otherwise you some black most but the medical activists the lobbyists out there that don't like anything that's not from a doctor and or if you are documented being in a general practice and it was just it was very triggering understand the landscape but I jumped in didn't do my homework. Yeah, because I want to get back get back on and get back Yeah, I should take my time going a couple of things Lyft businesses of fact up stop break but I didn't want to stop and breathe This is the big you know we can talk about whether it was good or not. I didn't stop all I wanted I wanted to be back on top and I'm honoured to be here making the money and living the lifestyle and and it was all the ego and always defined by that you see so so I needed to go to that next thing quickly. I didn't do my homework I didn't understand what I was doing and I think I got what I deserved. I believe I got what I deserve I didn't look at the business but I didn't look at the category properly. And it was the best and then my it was the hottest thing that ever happened to me from there for the next year. I was depressed as fuck because that fun the nail at 41 was the best thing that ever happened to me because I don't find myself wearing these Converse shoes great shoes 99 bucks yeah
very close claim
yeah within a couple of days in her show yeah but for me right this and because I've made right now and I'm it's not a badge of honour but I'm broke no money and I just with a snorkel keep my head above water. Yeah, but that's okay.
I mean broke for the person that has had a $35 million business that it feels a bit different from
Yeah, yeah, so I don't know I lost everything arena one bedroom apartment I got two little dogs they cute very cute William and Harry told rights kind of like the same as me. But he's the he's the gifts and I'd say that but all that now it's funny because people and it's funny like I'm not controlled by ego anymore. Okay, and I don't even got no money but I don't I'm not defined by how much money
but and the funny thing is even as you say this there's not like one bit like I don't feel sorry for you at all because there's nothing to be sorry but like this is like the journey like this is
yesterday like whatever you're going through its is a pretty good chance to make that happen and you need it you know, I needed it when buddy Jim was flying and let's talk Hi. We're at the strippers or both or beast I was not happy I was riddled with anxiety. I've always had anxiety because I was I don't know at all you know just I was living in the future the whole time and and just it was just not good and I was always as a the stressed or anxious or both. And was just no way to leave so all it was all wasn't that happy. I was excited. periods in body trim. But I was there was no joy. I wasn't happy just the simple pleasures I was never happy with. Now 18 months sober. Mate I am
you can enjoy you come to the shoes. I'm
sorry. I went back the other day. And you know I used to have to remember buying a brand new Maserati for nearly 300 grand and then after I bought it the black down the road bought the 458 Ferrari of cars fact you bought the gold Rolex someone's got the who blow you bother whatever and I did make disease of more. Yeah, so there's nothing wrong with making money and being successful and I want everyone to do that. But don't do it for that reason. I say money never leads it follows it follows you gotta chase purpose not money. I was the poster boy for what not to do. I fucked it all up a guy ruled my life. I bought these Converse the other day 99 bucks and it's funny alignment Saturday not a phenomena. Walk in the culture kings hanging out with the kids listen to the DJ bought bossy wheels. And then I put it down to the knock snowboards bought some nice socks and some slides naked where the socks in the slides that's happening at the moment
you can't look you gotta wear long socks with those types of tops otherwise you give yourself a little blister on
the boys it is check that out for the listeners either so yeah, so but it was a simple pleasures $99 Well I'm in the buying all the brains all the bullshit brands all the time spending thousands every time and it was a man that was a dozen whatever Give me two and then there was no join at a lost the joy of everything, everything and our drugs and alcohol if you've got a problem with them, that will rob you of the safe of joy. And and my ego was fueled by my addiction fueled by my ego. And then you get a little bit of profile and you want to hang out with famous people because you think they're awesome. Like it was just a cluster fuck on cluster fuck. And I was the CO
CEO of cluster. I will be the title of this
talk. Tomorrow we have got the CEO
Jeff Jarrett, yes. If you think you're struggling, if you're feeling down Ladies and gentlemen, listen to this you'll feel real good.
Is there power in you know, saying that I'm broke? Or saying that? I'm you know, at the very bottom? Do you find power in that moment of being able to verbalise that
freedom? I find massive freedom and it's beautiful
because no one else can live what you've said it like it put it out
this thing is people still once a month once a week twice a week someone Oh Hi Jeff just reaching out I've got this ID blah blah blah whatever industry it's in I'm looking at I thought you'd be great with your knowledge and maybe maybe investing
it I'll still get
enema picture of you
know just just Thanks buddy. I've got no money wish you all the oddest but I'll just bang Yeah, but I get no money I've got no money I'm broke wish you all the best hope you do well bang or no? There isn't I have there is no bullshit if you hooked up look Truman Show vibe for me. Yeah, there's no contradictions there is not one contradiction in my life now like made I spent I spent fuckin probably millions of dollars in brothels awesome sex addiction as well I did it all my and
which came first the money or the sex addiction like what's the like? How does all that play out? Were you taking drugs before you'd got the success? And what was was it that actually caused it? Was it the people that you're around?
Well, definitely environmental made it worse. It was always in me the environment and that's why I'm so big on environment you got to be so you just can't compromise that because you you gotta move sooner or later but but all of before I had died they were they were there was a bit of that knows it was always diseases more. Yeah. Like fed income.
So you stepped into a brothel before you'd made so like your first million? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So it's not like you become a millionaire. It's like I've got all this shit
that was always there with all the that stuff was then that probably just better ruffles what might have been divert it or and I was it was it was but I look bad, but it seemed normal. I look at my life and it was fuck and now my blog and but this and this is where I do get a bit I guess. The analogue spiritual I guess my path is such a good path on a little all of it to get me on where where I am now. You know, having I know this sounds a bit fluffy but you can't have sex with someone if there's not a connexion. It's wrong on every level, like the energy is so it's just wrong. It is morally for that other person or that poor person working in that place. And I want to be the go to their own. It's it's the whole thing is fact. And always literally both vaping it
what do you think about like, what what's your take on the adult like you saying it's fact and all that sort of thing? Yeah, I should have what's your take on it pain?
They're in pain, you know, and it's wrong. Do we live in a fallen world? You know, humans are defective products. And, you know, if if, you know, I don't want to demonise alcohol but if someone invented alcohol today, it'd be illegal. Yeah, it's fact alcohol is fucked. There's not nothing there creatives might say are more creative when I'm peace deep. Maybe. Maybe doesn't make you a better person. Doesn't no one's better on alcohol. No one's better on drugs log. So for me, I stumbled across Dr. Wayne Dyer. He's dead now Wayne Dyer but great spiritual sort of guy motivator. died in the 70s but I'll listen to him he is a guy who thought he was a decade or just wasn't ready at all. Nope. Brilliant icon spiritual. Yeah. But he started out in science and he was a lecturer and and he got very spiritual down and mine and he had some addiction stuff as well. It's because a lot of the ladies in my whitelist community said you gotta listen to Wayne Dyer. He reminds us of you will you remind us of Him who started listening to his stuff and you really really interesting because it's you know energy and and how we are vibration, eat alcohol, drugs, all that stuff just lowers your vibration and you attract what you are all want things that elevate my vibration, so I was doing everything I possibly could to make myself show Phil sheet and fuck up my life. If I look back at the sex industry, it's fucking terrible. Even even strip clubs and the girls because I've got a lot of friends out of that industry like that they fucking in pain. Do you think a girl wants and this is when you watch blokes that chick? She does not want to be working there. She gets addicted to the money. This is just fucked. So why is she working? Because she makes three grand a night.
So what's your mindset? What is it super primal in those situations you not like going into a brothel having that experience? what goes on in your mind? Is it just like you just want to?
Quickly such a good question because I've thought about this a lot. The more I believe the more conscious we become, the more we can move away from those primal urges. And I know that because I feel it myself like, and like talking about awakening or, you know, Buddha talked about enlightenment, but also dealing with the awakening process. And it's really interesting. Now look at my love of animals, horses. All animals, like we're all equal. We're all connected. You can't hurt other people and animals is a really weird store. I'm going to tell you but once you start to wake up you can't stop. So I was in the gym a few weeks ago and a laugh I mean everyone does not tell the storey but doesn't mean it's not true. And I was in the gym. I was actually sitting on the can Yeah, like 5am 5:30am as a little cockroach on the ground. I'm just sitting there and he's on his backside of fucking dying and and I'll just look the little fellas fact crash that that's a cockroach you know in many ways it's the lowest thing of the lie but it's still a living thing. And I found myself I've tried to flip him over and just my little tap with the foot just getting going again fucking coke right? everything to me it's a living in no better or worse and that's why that's that's what I talk about why and I talked about this in the awakening process when you start to wake up good or bad is not there's no going back
in some ways you Mr. protein. How do you reconcile the you know, protein?
So what I did great quote I love these folks questions if I can good, so why don't eat much red meat anymore? I eat a lot of eggs. Yeah, nobody died in that process. Fish I apologise but I do it you and free right we
don't have any fish listen.
Well, you never know that yet. So I don't eat much red meat. I don't what do I do? Are you chicken a few days a week and just fish and eggs and heaps of green vegetable oats? It's Friday
yeah Mike why
not to day it's a derivative of dairies. I don't have a lot of protein powder anymore now.
Yay. comes out of the waste product making cheese.
Cheese. Cheese. So you said two years ago was when you were at the bottom? Yes. When I met you. It seems like a short amount of time to kind of pull yourself out. I mean, are you out? Are you at
all personally I'm out emotionally spiritually physically. Financially, I'm, you know, one of the upstart at the bottom. know me, you know?
Bottom, and I'm here.
Right? semi funny, but this is the thing good things take time. And we're talking about the hockey puck analogy or the hockey,
hockey pucks what hits
that hit me in 2016 have brought in the balls but not yet the hockey sticks at what I'm doing now with the jail at method I'll build a white loss community and that takes time because it's organic and it's word of mouth right? So where am I look at who I am now. And it's fact it's it's awesome. Like I've got you know, I've got great people in my life and I said this yesterday at my seminar like when you do life right it takes longer but good stuff takes time I'll build businesses in overnight almost and I blew up and I blew down yeah and and you compromised your values and you did if you didn't do anything illegal but you know you didn't have that you didn't have the customer service team that you needed you didn't have the support you never this you didn't have that it was all was all bottom line stuff. And it goes up it goes down there's no joy and fulfilment you know unlike these ladies and gentlemen over the weekend and the joy and fulfilment and when my life is now what's possible I'm 41 where I can be when I'm 51 my dreams now I'm not to be famous not that'd be status if I made some money again or borrow a little Hobby Farm get some horses do retreat look at my and you know if I'm I don't even have a car Oh to gotta get so
let's just talk about like it's good and
pull up my go get calm I gotta get just
log so y'all use it go good because I live in the city and Kings Cross in Sydney and but even but even that, so I just I live in Kings Cross like, you know, few years ago I would have said I live in rush cars by are living touchpoint It's awesome. Brock, fun Kings Cross my cross.
Just the the cofounders shift.
Yeah, right. Little Lydia. this nice little things. What's
the cut? like? What does it look like? And what you know, you have the fancy, fancy house, I'm guessing like what's the you know, What did it look like visually in the sense of is it getting towed away in front of your eyes? Like what was the How did the eyes when
it went pear shaped? It was just it was like
what's a good analogy? Gee, it was just it was
just it was just so you know, it's fucked. And you know you're sinking. Yeah, and you can
Yeah, and you're trying it and you're scrambling you know
how quick the how quick is that? From the time that you had it all and then you got nothing
well at the end of it, it's real quick, but and then there's not many people hanging around at that point where it's pretty lonely. I've jumped off the hockey packs. So when I was flying sticks you know but this this Yeah, yes. Yes. You know, my mobile phone looked a bit like the Christmas tree. New Year's Eve it was lighting up all the time, wasn't it? But But when it went pear shaped or the coattails to see if it was still working now it was mass pretty lonely and but that was part of the journey good because I didn't have because I was a week I was a fuck what you say this is what people gotta realise if your life's not working I'm going to really good process are the two step model Step Get walk into the bathroom look in the mirror and repeat steps one and two Yeah, that fucking simple if you live the lives not working own it Don't fucking blame everyone else. I was a massive when I look back at all I wanted and I had messy my whole lot I was hanging around messy bankers you know it was it was just you attract what you are not what you want a little bit the people in my life now the people coming back around if I can awesome they're good people getting the job method started with no money in my bank account other day and but here's a good one for you $64 in the bank account I had wrong Yeah,
he's a good boy using IMG Have you ready for optimise your foot mess barefoot investor Yeah, that's a good book. I've got a good copy of a copy will send you one because that is such a good book you have like different Okay,
ladies, that'll be good. That's right. But was it was a silence looking at 19 $64
on the jump method getting going again so my so getting I believe in what I'm doing so much and for me I said this to someone one of the girls in the conference yesterday she said it would have been so easy for you to just keep drinking like everyone else does, but it's not acceptable for me to raise my standards right? So it's an honour for me to be a fucking alcoholic for the rest of my life. And in Australia there's a lot of people who are wanting to own it. I don't want to live my life through a drunk lens I want to I want to leave more so now with the jump method people like my graphic designer, my photographer like there's about seven people who are all at the top of their they work for free they fucking do it for free because they believe my design is probably worked he probably done about 30 grand worth of work that just he just believes you want well media boy the these people that you know in some ways I really let them down you a guy with a lot of debt and
maybe you weren't such a fuck with the same way back and I generosity that you're right,
you're that you've got there was always a good spirit and energy and drive. But there was just a bigger ego around that as well. But yeah, I appreciate that what you say then that is true because people aren't coming back if you're
if you're really stuck with would you would you worry say with building the method and all that sort of thing now do you worry and have moments of saying Jeff Are you gone back to the time Yeah.
not worried but away. I'm very vigilant. So if I ever made a lot of money again, my odd never buy a flash car. NET wat nothing go I'm so aware of my traits. I don't want to go down that slippery slope. I don't want a comparison thief of joy. Yeah, you know, I'm just so I think it's always under the surface. I've got a catch myself. I catch myself all the time. Like someone doing really well and I'm still really struggling not be happy for that person. And I am happy for him. But I can still get Ah come on Jeff. Is that
and it's all and the interesting thing too is that observation is like you there is still that next thing you still like there is that level of forward thinking how do you control how can you be forward thinking and contain anxiety
another awesome question so there's a daily work on this for me right here inside my head because for me with the G out method all you know a few people got look i'd like to invest some really successful people but I don't think I'm well I'm not ready to get married again or anything I want to partner up so it's and I'm very good I'm not great at the towel so I'm having to do a lot of the stuff myself that I'm not great at there I don't want to go down the same path again. So I'm hyper conservative now about okay handbrake on and because I just don't want to get the fuck it up again. And
he told me you doing all the admin shit I was doing you're hitting? It's almost humbling though it seems for you.
It's very humbling and rewarding. Yeah, look, I'm learning how to use these on this job because building platform thing that limiting beliefs I used to tell myself I can't do this. I can't do that. I don't have the detail or that. I do. Just fucking put the phone down. Look yourself up. I'll tell you what I do I get up at 4am Monday to Friday. Well, most people a lot. I'll get my the best people can get they had time to go to bed. Nine. Okay, nine. Yeah. Mark Burris Are you mark trains at City gym I really admire mark and we've got quite a few mutual friends. And you know, he's he's actually had a really big impact on me in the last couple of months because he talks a lot to me about his routine and what he does and you know, fuckin that's what you do. So I seek out people I want to be like yeah, and I and I pulled like a probably harassment but at the end he comes at pregame with the champion. But I learned a lot from and I tell him so we've had some really good conversations because I lead with my you know, vulnerability ability and he just put him on such a pedestal of strength and he's even said to me guys, man, if I go to the gym every day I'll struggle on what what really you?
Yes, absolutely. Do you think you've done it almost backwards because I see people who take two years for them to get success whatever that looks like when they're going through all these moments where it's it seems there's been a bit of a reverse you've had it be early and now you're learning the
almost nine heads you hit the nail on the head Yeah, because it because what I do is such a guy it's such a Winky word. I'll use it anyway. Like all I've always been that sort of visionary like I can look at an industry and look at it different and get it and find a gap and get it to go you know we did with vision did it with body trim did it with medical whitelists you know, so and then I'll find the and then I'll find the execution team I'll find the people to get the detail done. So big idea get it going right some ads get excited and not learn all the basics metal hadn't paid a Telstra bill for 15 years now so we're all in biassed so all in Bass Pro Se having full time pays full time cleaners full time everything to me literally and I was engaged in that you know ended as well so talk my was pretty lonely land two dogs I didn't have the two dogs pretty sure I would have fucking pulled the plug
and so the relationships that you had along like you obviously talking now about you and your journey obviously there's a lot of people in involved you know you're in a supermarket and you see some of the the people who are in your life at that point. What's the feeling that you that you get when you see someone is it you know, do you feel embarrassed Have you accepted what's happened or now Yeah,
now all of that Scott did for so long now because it's
and that is freedom it's not power it's freedom. And I guess that I guess that creates power but I I'm proud of the person on becoming You know, I'm living my values on I just don't just talk about them and the quality of people in my life and and people that I'm attracting and the friendships I'm building and the wildly motto now and I own the there's no one that it's a really nice feeling on this still the only fear for me is I'm going to pay the rent this month or you know really basic stuff which I know in time will improve but I've also got a probably a bit of PTSD because everything that a lot if I come back with me might you know I look for a period when the when we had administrators and all that stuff going on fucking phone rang or whatever and you fucking anxiety and ah yeah is there in this was a renders and I made a lot of sort of rookie mistakes early on. I didn't understand the finances of businesses either because I jumped in my Andrew legend that vision he was an accountant so what it might be hated his vision went through the roof. Yeah, the next the next business we had CFO is pretty much straight away. I fucking ID so always blind to a lot of that. And then it comes crashing down and it's all new.
What do you think about the entrepreneur landscape now? I know you have you just joined LinkedIn because you messaged me.
Jeffers on LinkedIn now, but like you look at LinkedIn, Josh and I talk a lot about it. And you seeing the promotion, the self promotion, the almost everything you're talking about this highly successful world money driven. It's all what people are selling. Now. What do you think about Tell
me, I'll tell you it's a really interesting topic. I, I cringe. I cringe. And it's funny because because I'm a guy wants it further look, if I could make money, I hate self promotion now. cringe. And I'm having to put myself out there to try and build this community, which I believe is for the greater good of helping the members but everyone's got fac and Al might is just everyone just wants their five seconds of fame out there. And some people should have it like it was funny with you blogs. I met Tommy back in 2016. And I just really chilled with him. And I thought this guy's got the right. It's good. You got you got good stuff to talk about. And I really think it's funny and engaging. And I watch your stuff. You guys should be doing what you're doing. But 99% of people should just get the lack of social media with their bullshit. No one gives a fuck you not tell it?
Yeah, well, you just need I think that you need to, you need to come with it with purpose and for Yeah, I mean, I it's about you know, scaling friendship and mate ship and realising that you know, we were you know, to business owners doing our thing separately and it's a lonely path when you know, when you're doing when you're small business, your service business you're doing it on your own. And so this started off with just something that we could do every single week day to have a chat and then all of our other mates who are sitting at their computer graphic designers doing their work making listen to it and so now we're you know, slowly different with
the blocks again, this is where I think the talent place on most, most there's a lot of like, it just breeds narcissism social media a lot of it and people just want to get themselves out there but you guys are adding value because it's entertainment. I'm watch I get entertained when I watch what you what you guys are doing and all your you do. So this is really actually very clever. It's clever.
Maybe it's the the runner or the kid who wants to be a, you know, under 10 second hundred metre sprinter. They can't do any more than 15 any less than 15 well i think you know, they're trying to be this person that they're not well i think it's I
think it's that I think what it is is he's getting one out my and I
know he's got a good one because I think the thing is that I don't think it's about them necessarily not being the talent or being able to do it The thing is that they're rocking up on the first day of going for a run and trying to run 100 metre sprint in a competition and I haven't done any of the training and the work and the vision and and asking the why. And so because we were able to lead with the why and what we're doing then it helps us filter around why we're doing it there's some of the things that we're not Tommy and I say that we went not this isn't a radio show which means you don't have to be these two minutes breaks when you just say something funny and go to a song or whatever we can have deep conversation we can be authentic we can be honest and with having time having an hour to speak with you we get we get to know Jeff go through the whole storey rather than get getting the quick two minute bit of you because of the other thing too is people are really good at talking to minimise your two minute bite would be doing your gear about you know the the morning show and the protein and all that so that we can had that fun but then we can go into the real thing get a real sense of who you are.
Yeah, you know absolutely. So the entrepreneur landscape I think made everybody these days supposedly an entrepreneur and it's just a funny I just It's the world's gone mad like God's fucking madness out there because at 41 like back in the early days when we were starting the gyms there was no social media there was you know you had to really is a low i a lot more near you working on a book together and whatever and people are just just different and everybody everybody thinks I can be killing it overnight you know these The thing about that if you do kill it I've an audience business haven't done the work on yourself so you're gonna fuck it because the business will expand and contract back to the size of the leader. Yeah, so if you haven't done the work on you You are going to fuck yourself one way or another in a modern up with a bunch of money but you're going to be miserable because you got it you can't you can't the universe doesn't work that way it just can't do that so we live in these microwave society instant success gratification all of that sort of jazz and people are their expectation is all just that some sort of a commerce be rich and I can six months and sell it to fucking Google or something and there's a billion box and it's just so every water now the whole thing it's so deep front neon look at LinkedIn and I can't get my head around any of it it's all online if I could like to the point Yeah. Like I love helping people lose weight but I fucking hate advertising and marketing these days and it makes me cringe just so bullshit What
did you think about what you were selling it because you talk about the some of those words that you use to describe you know getting you know fish or losing joy you know, how do you reconcile that now when you talk about purpose and you think about what you were
selling the good thing back then what I was selling was very genuine so what used you got to use a lot of benefit words in one aspect otherwise people on interested but because it was David days in coaching the end product was very good.
So you had to you had to get the mean on the you're going to look great and it's a vanity pace and then it's like all right strip battle why now let's get
to get them in on on benefit because now I'm one do the work and that's where it's interesting with what I'm doing now because it's like you gotta do the fucking work Yeah, and that's so it's not going to be a massive product because you got to do work, you got to work you got to check in with life coaching morning and night like most people aren't going to do that. Most people aren't going to step into their mistakes most people aren't going to own their shit. Most people are just gonna blame others for the rest of their life so but I'm not compromising that anymore. And if I can't get this to work my way I will literally have already put feelers out there to go and get a job working with horses or something I'm done yeah, I'm fucking done with the bullshit Yeah, I am done with the bullshit and and that's not a you know not not a depressing thing to say but the hype and the madness that is out there these days and good on Facebook you can't do before and after pictures on Facebook. What do you mean you can't when you do paid advertising on Facebook that everyone's a fucking shrunk so before and after pictures and all will go to the grave with these every single before and after picture. They're all used at body trim, and all use it the Jarrett method. Did body trim does the Janssen they real but my 90% of people on Facebook are fucking bogies advice but good on them a lot. And it's good no more before and after pictures. paid advertising said to me. I've got a woman she's 67 years old she lost 95 kilos with me over five years. I can't use her images I can use her after photo but I can't showcase how powerful this is visually because of all the shops out there that actually do the wrong thing that's that's kind of the world we live in. Yeah.
With the two years ago to now what has what has helped you get out of that emotional home?
because it made me look at myself. And just stop Stop. Stop trying to compete with everything everyone come back down. Connect help other people just take time to breathe. I was always in a hurry.
Now you don't know in case Yeah, okay. is mine.
I even got that vibe from you. When we first met. Yeah. You did seven coffees? Yeah. Made me feel right. And it's a you ready for the next thing? Yeah. It's very interesting. I mean, how do you quit? How do you when you're when you're an addict? And you're depressed and you got nothing? How do you then quit booze at that point? Or then quit drugs?
It's a great question. Well, I think I was ready to Nick myself. So
it's a the Nicky sofa or
Yeah. And I ended up in II and I did that for a while and and are just I'll go to stop got off myself. So you get into those rooms and you start looking it other people and you just you just sit with it learn to sit with where I was at. And without so much judgement and guilt and shame and just just he's where I am and but it was a slow process it was get up and go to the seven I am Stanley straight meetings for Narcotics Anonymous.
You know why I went and
but made it you know, the end at the back of that is magic and joy. And, but but how do you? I don't know if there was not one thing it was a desire. I think there's a spiritual piece to it as well. Like, I'm not
was that from a stuff that you got that spiritual thing?
Because it's like a religion. It's
all Christian stuff. Yeah, yeah. Look, I'm not Christian. At all. I'm not religious. At all spiritual. Yeah, I'll take I studied Buddhism. I like a lot of this stuff in the Bible, but I you know, I'm not Christian. I think Jesus Christ was awesome. I don't know if it was if he was God, so I'm not sure about that.
But did you ever do a one on one therapy or anything like that?
Yeah, I did. I work with a lady in Tasmania, who? She was very very good sort of a life coach. She helped me with some stuff. Yeah,
I said to my mate, who is going through a still I mean, it's still a part of it. I said I sent him a text the other week and I said you are the person that you're meant to be he the way he acts now it's like he's showing aligned with who he is a true the true sense of who this person is. Do you feel that's something that you do it? Yes,
I really do my and even now looking at maybe do i do i partner with someone and there's a lot of people around him she can business people but like a lot of business people they're all about the back and that's why they go to business and I just can't I can be associated with that new more so than they now I'd rather have it really small and just scrape by but not compromise anything. And it's a really different operating system for me compared to what it wasn't like I ride horses on the weekend up a limb with Valley in Sydney and but the feeling of riding horses and then standing with the horses and they come and sort of the you know, you got this bond with the horse and he comes and rubs his head on your back after you've written for an hour and he can't put fucking you can't put a price on that you know now look at it you know making also both if I can blah blah blah, great. Lovely. couldn't think of anything fucking words? Yeah, just give me peace and come give me some animals. I just It's so fucking different. That I I don't think we had a spiritual awakening or couldn't be where I am because it's there's more to what we I believe there's more to what we are spiritual beings having a human experience as the saying goes, there's more to this than just the major caucus, we get around in, you know, we, I don't know all about what happens, but I do know that there's more than going on them. yc and I think for whatever reason, I was open to that. And I've started down a path
of that. Do you have people who were in your life when you were going through hard times that still hurt who say things like uses the same fact and Jeff that type of deal and how do you deal with that?
No, not really because it's
a good thing. Yeah, I know that because again, I get out of it so although the paper where I believe I was in the wrong I fucking called him up and said listen, and it's funny because I even vision Andrew and he wouldn't mind me saying this I text him and put this fucking really long winded text together and all night I'm sorry for talking. And Andrew What are you talking about? Yeah, yeah, fucking might be biassed fuck that up that partnership and you need a vision wouldn't be around without you stopping fucking so it's interesting for me a bit addicted to that processes and apologise to find every man and he's dog No, I saw him I brought a
it's a bit chaotic for for him though. I see that.
Yeah, it was good. But now but literally even and I could I can clearly see the part I played in all the big fuck ups whereas I could not. For quite some time. It was like this blog fact me This is my but you know what? Everyone is just doing their best at the time. Yeah, man, you know, we're not a fact. He's just doing his best he's got he's on he's not doing it. The fuck you he just got his own stuff. But I took it was. There you go. Yeah. How could you do that? Yeah, there I look back and it's so obvious. You know, Wayne Dyer's is I can see clearly now like I didn't see clearly
at a song who's saying that
the brain is gone.
Now we'd have to pay some sort of licence.
Got a fascinating journey right? It's been
fun at 40 until I got an amazing platform to do something great with my life for the right reasons for the right reasons. And it's I say ambition not ego. I've got the ambition but I'm not doing it and it's real easy. outside these quickly the good might amount from the party dice he's a good one James he lives in LA now. He married a movie producer and he's a really really charismatic guy and
still party obviously lives in LA
a little bit but but um yea parties that Yeah, he does. Yeah, yeah, he's not titling like me. But he's not an addict. You know people who can party but good luck to him. Yeah, if you want to blow the doors off once a month Good luck to him artist can't pull up to the mountain. Yeah, but he reached out to me on facebook so I do a lot of free videos and I did any of these you are already from person that you guys met we had fun together. Yes, but fuck, this is awesome. What you're doing Jeff Riley His name is James and and so anyway, he's like, man, I want to get some of your stuff over here because he's he's quite Hollywood and he marries he's a guy going married a movie producer over there and doing he's great. A really nice guy but like, I had zero interest in any of August doing what I want to do because it's authentic. Right? His May I believe what he said that he is you know the difference now? He goes when I watch your videos now I believe you really powerful right so you always had the chat but I'll believe you now suddenly a lots changed so and he knew me from from back in the day. So he went off and chopped up a show reel and started shopping it around over there and I've hadn't I'm sure I don't think anything's gonna happen but, but I don't know. I'm not interested in that now. When I wanted to be famous on me my dream. If anything if it does happen, I'm not chasing anything. I just want to help a few people do my best run my horses walk my dogs make these you know, I love the idea of actually having a relationship getting married and have some kids. I could never cobble that together back in the day.
Yeah. What do you tell yourself every day? What do you remind yourself
to stay present? Not a cave my head in let let go of the past is let go because for a long time, it'd be like how did you have a $30 million business and go broke that was just heavy. Heavy fuck that up him I he and every time I had to do admin Am I doing these Firefox was just like an IVF. So yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah, so that was uh, that took a year all that stuff takes time that took a year to get over that. So what each each day awareness, humility patience was I tell myself that every day alignment look like
how do you do this in a controlled way? Are these just like to do journal do you write things down? Do you say to the mirror like how do you actually we'll make sure that you will
work that's why I have to get up at 4am I have to have a routine really really good routine so I don't drink obviously don't take any drugs or don't hang out with the kids I go there's a whole bunch of stuff and if Jeff Jarrett does that he's he's effective he's not he struggles get up really early. Good 24 hour cafe just down the road again have a coffee walk into the gym or trying to do a live coaching session at seven with my members walk the dogs and then I just it is repetitive it is everything I used to hate now it is just the repetition and and but I find joy in in moments during the day but I have to do like I'll sit down first thing in the morning with a notepad and I'll map out my day early and I'll just on a get up early and get going look I'll just go to do a lot of things right to stay good. How hard is that? It gets easier every day. Yes that's a good lucky right What did I say? What starts at hard gets easy repetitions the mother of skill all of that stuff so it was really hard now I sleeping Monday Monday for 30 minutes you get good at what you do and polka couldn't get up at 4am well I want to have a good life I want to be depressed I want to be anxious so that's what it takes it takes time to build a quality life and you go to I want to met McConnell he talked about the scene and Oscar speech he's a guy lucky he wanted to he was his own hero 10 years from now like what would 50 year old Jeff do me out and you got to be that person now otherwise you're never going to create that life. Like everyone wants that life but they don't do the work. They cut corners and they compromise their values and then they wonder why they got shafted we fucking what you do yeah, you get what you are. So you got to live with integrity raise your standards and but none of it's a chore anymore you know and I've looked at my name not drinking going to bed last night on a Saturday night in Melbourne at a conference at 930 just fucking what I do
you get up at four today
now wake zombie croker's will mean that I am
six a six sleeping
on a Sunday
get up at six on a Sunday Saturday I said I'm pretty much get up at six now allow my just wake up I'm sleeping at 10 o'clock but even when you when you when you're an alcoholic and you got alcohol withdrawals and that fueled my alcohol withdrawals I used to sit in hotels I'd have withdrawals or drink the minibar draw a circle Go back to sleep
you've got an echo in this
room Oh see I don't have a problem
the thing that drinking the minibar dry but just to be out of stock that was that was the life I live
but it was it's relatable in the sense of even like being overweight and food right like I remember having those same vibes with but instead of the berries it's the m&ms and yes that's because
that that point is is so powerful so the gel method this new whitelist community that I've got is all if I wasn't an alcoholic didn't get bankrupt didn't fuck everything there be no jail Don't miss it it's all come out of my pain and my learning because food so I say food alcohol drugs Russell brain same external feel good medicating internal pain and in the internal pain comes out of not living your values your purpose no connexion pain you medicate with food alcohol drugs gambling sex all of the above and there's no joy there's no long term in that but food addicts emotional it is comfort is the medicating pain alcohols medicating pioneer wasn't connecting. I didn't have purpose in my life. And compromise my values in a bottle of Johnnie Walker made it okay.
Just don't food and yeah, absolutely. So and we're going to get you on again at some point. Up to Sydney. A little trip. I'll be great. Jeff. Josh, thanks so much.
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