- July 20, 2019
Mikey, Tommy’s bro, is on for Weekend Banter! We talk about family holidays, childhood memories and what it was like growing up with Tommy.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show we discuss:
– Mikey’s trips to China
– Helmets and safety
– Bali and Fireworks
– Family holidays
– What Tommy was like as a brother
– Christmas and New Years
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It's a daily Talk Show Episode 399 weekend Banta What is going on?
Is that my was that my intro? That's
bad it well, we I'm right old because I wanted to start a new way of doing the intros of the show. And we said absolutely not. And we've we've got my brother Michael jacket on the cast
guy. I will never say that again.
On the cast podcast
on the show things we will never do again. And I'm sorry, Michael, that you've had to be here for this. We will never intro the show like fat Friday's yesterday. Never again, Mr. 97 feedback. It was horrendous.
Why was it bad? Do
you think? Oh, I was just listening back to it. It's just so cringe and try hard.
Yeah, yeah, that's one of my brand values. Also, never do the Ryan Seacrest impersonation. Again. We've we've had the people the masses have spoken to people. Two people have said
never again. What's the only accent? The American connexion I can do is Ryan Seacrest. Do that again yesterday. Now Thursday's is catching up.
Have you heard him do the Ryan Seacrest? Yeah,
I think one of the earlier
Oh yeah, yeah, that's what you know. I've definitely done it more than once. We should actually look at the transcript he right sorry guys.
Sorry 399 guys far out.
I wanted to ask Mikey Can you do any accents now? Have you done any acting before? No.
Oh, yeah. Actually in the United Way, you know, an acting award. And yeah, madam on Tom. No, no, so dirty because he really felt like he was a better actor. But I think the teacher liked me better. So he gave me the ward.
I'll tell you what kind of a brother Michael was like. He was the kid who had all of the trophies in the little flags. And remember how you used to have all of those ribbons? I had none
when I was a hoarder.
Yeah, I still am. So do you still have to trophies from a kid?
Do you know what I reckon I've got that united drama trophy Really? Well it sits in a box with all the other shitty the you know like the other trophies? No, I don't have a trophy cabinet but it sits in a box with like the you know certificates from school that your mom's kit like mom did she keep that fellowship for you?
But I haven't I haven't asked it The problem is once you should have having the position you then start to build that association with it it becomes an extent you like that. I can't get rid of that. Yeah, and so liability now you've got it. But if you ask me and Dan you've got none of it and it doesn't really fucking matter
what the game is. Yeah. I know not to
relieve myself of all this burden
by barefoot investor you got a good book out of
I mean, the trophy wise what sort of sports we playing when you're growing up
fully and played with cricket as a youngster then moved into
tennis now but your trophies and mostly ribbons came from swimming?
Swimming? Yeah, she was swimming.
This guy had a Falcon. He thought he was going to the army. He had a just a short back inside then almost almost an afro. Like it just chiselled fucking.
You know, Grant he was my hairdresser back in the day.
greyed the Baba. Baba. Mr. Non si. Conspiracy Jimmy Yeah, he's whole family. Or went to grant one of Roland conspiracy Jimmy's brother still goes to grant the barbat legendary, and our dad still goes to the bat.
So I remember the days when I came in, when I was nine, and grant sat me down in a chair and he goes, Mikey, I've got a new I've got any time for you. Oh, yeah. And he bought this cone with a spirit level on it. So that so that he could get the flat top so as flat as he could. And so he would show like 0.5 on the sides in the back and then he just
joking. Now he must be serious to be though because if your head is tilted like that, you'll end up getting an off. It won't be flat.
You'll have a ski jump. You
like it? Do you remember the ski jump was beat like the I had the one where it's like you flat the top and then just flip it sort of like it's a fake spiky hair. horrendous
assassin. Around the time you putting lemon juice in your head?
Yeah, well, I always said the bleach maybe that's what I've got for you.
Last night in the nose. And I know
you ready up on it, right?
Because I've got pimples in my nose and if I can give me the shits, and I was like, What is this? And it came up with flicky? Oh yeah,
because it could be your hairs are getting in the molecules, especially by getting better hair. And you knows the follicles could be getting infected. And that's the Philly colliders. Man. It's painful. It's what I've been on my head I think I had at once I had took some antibiotics and I finished now my
set Did you sign in? Or you went straight to bleach?
You know it's trying to blow it just a bit of and boy guys if I can just I Mom It's burning and also like the tip it started off with the tip cap.
But every single time Jules used to get every
every single time you'd be stabbing your head like you. You would essentially Yeah, because it's got like this missile like pic thing that you stabbing and then pull out
It looks like a mini and so it goes in and then they pull out a strap a couple of strands here.
So you'd scrape up your head through all of that and it's like, let's put some bleach and top. Paint it. Yeah,
I talked about when I went in I had the blood the bleach cap. And she dropped some bleach onto my T shirt. This new t shirt that I got sick It was like orange. Fact it just she's she just wiped it off. She's like, that's fine. And then she knew it was going to be fine, but she must have the next day. It is gone. Just brownie Sheedy like, bleach he was fact
I've still got some undies that I was cleaning the bath with bleach, I set back onto the bath where I cleaned it.
no knowledge. So you show me just before a photo of everyone's doing it the old face or the you know, and just, it's a face filter that's making you look old. But like anything that gained some traction, there's been a bit of a conspiracy that's jumped behind Mr. 97 jona outlay. What's going down?
Yeah, so the face app is the app that they use to generate the photos. And apparently, people are worried about the data being sent back to Russia, because their company's Russian based. Yeah. But I was just looking through here, there's a security researcher. And she says that they're actually not sending any data back to Russian servers.
And that was translated from Russian because she's Russia.
I didn't hear about this, that there. Because my point is, if you though, going back to serve as you get huge data bills, right, like, because what they're saying is your photos are going from your library. So you take pics or whatever, going up to the cloud. And some someone in Russia has them. Ah.
Now I thought it was just the fight the photo you took on the app? I suppose that makes no yeah.
So I mean that the photo on the app, man, like, not that much of an issue. I don't think like if you upload it, I guess what can they
do with it? It's more than
that. The what I saw is they're using everyone's face and connecting it with their profile and their information. Facial recognition. Ah, it's, I mean, it's all bullshit. But yeah, it's good storey
it's I liked it. I mean, once you put the Russians in there, it sounds juicy.
doesn't like to go to Russia. Have you ever been to Russia?
No. I've been to Russia.
It looks you've done a lot of travelling to
China. A lot. Yeah. What do you what do you think of because of Russia and China? similar sort of like this. There's that level of China and
Russia. It seems a bit more like like state of mind. Steve went to Russia recently in on a work trip. And he said, it's all just it's a bit. It's a bit more like underground feels a bit more underground. Like you've got to get it. Like he said I was meeting someone who was like an agent, essentially. And he's like, I'll meet me at this bar at 9:30pm. He's like what I need to do in your business. Yeah, yeah. China is not quite like that. China's just mad. It's chaotic. But it's not like you see, you don't get a lot of like, this is the dodgy joint.
And so do you have like, because you go there for work? A bit. Would You Do Not anymore? Have you
been since you saw your
own light once last year? But no, I haven't been
haven't been for it. You have to get a new visa every time.
I feel the passport Ghana, China. Oh, actually, in a two year period, I was travelling so much. I feel a passport passport. Because of the amount of visa status you have to get every time Yeah, basically.
And I feel a page Have you ever been obsessed with there was a time where I was like, I want to fill up my passport. Before the next one problem is, I've still got probably like a few pages and it finishes November 2020.
We're going to get that sorted before because if we get to a time where we need to go for six months, so
yes. So I'll need to so probably by the beginning of 2020 I'll have to get a new one. But so Has that ever been a thing where you've tried to actually fill one out?
No, it was a pain in the ass? Because I don't get any
American might got an insert for his if he's I don't know if they do that in Australia. And he's, they basically just send you more of the pages. Ah,
which was really yeah, I I met a girl that once was at an airport. And she I think it was on the New Zealand. Maybe it was further out. But if you have a party if you don't have a passport, you can't travel right.
Yeah. So what happens if you lose your passport? The day that you go into the airport? Can you get on that plane? No. She said that to me that you can there's a there's a rule. If you're in the airport, and it's an Australian airline. look this up, Mr. 97. You can get onto the plane without the passport. And obviously you need to sort of work it out. But if you can't like what happens, you lose all that money. Can you find that out? Yeah.
What I call bullshit, do you? Well, because just because like with a Chinese know, because there's the front desk that they're like, yeah, like here's your ticket and stuff. But then there's customers like customers don't take note from no one. Yeah.
It would only be if it was like going one what like I'm sure there'd be all these you want
you going home?
Home Home is not a white not
there. What about if maybe it's maybe if it's in a connecting flight? Maybe if you've gotten from last it on between
LA and Melbourne and you had to step over something?
Yeah. Which is a very specific case. You would say if you were going Auckland, LA to Auckland to Melbourne and you lost in Auckland.
You have to be able to get home. You can't just be stranded. Sure, though. Yeah, that makes sense. Surely anything Mr. Nice.
venue wants to question.
It has a lot of data that is good, is a good little puppy.
So when you were going to China, what were you doing that? Because I know what you told us but
so well, I was going to say factories and work with the factories that were manufacturing the bike helmets it also designing
so he designed a helmet that was in the Tour de France. That's how I sell it. Yes. Is that a good way of selling it? It's true. So it's quite good. I mean, you remember you modelling it out and carving it up out of fucking look like a big piece of brain was Klay is climbing?
Right? How much?
Yeah, yeah, so that's what you work with the factory in China to they'd have for testing
sites like dummies and stuff.
Now I know. So there's two exits a couple of different types of testing for helmets. It's like an active test where they put it on on like a jig and then they drive it into it grit into the ground just in test and there's sensors behind this little sensor behind where they hit it on the ground or there's a static test where they hold the helmet and I just like drop an anvil onto it. So yeah, the brutal test but the the design side of people's lives. So I actually remember getting it I think I got sent this I was just doing some research online about the helmets because like this is a safety product like I was just so in the world of just like art design and like Scott carving these helmets and then going to China and then I was like oh hang on these are actually on people's on people's heads is their heritage in the Android The IDK is an hour. And I said looking at all the review and it was this woman who said I had the worst accident bike accident in my life. And this helmet saved my life. And I was like yes,
your was your idea. Instagram bio, I can
save save you. Save you they'll probably think you're just Christian. Oh, that's cool.
What was it on like an Amazon or something like that? Or?
Probably like this is now we're talking five years ago. So it was probably since
raving review. Yeah,
he also designed a handbag that you might not crazy. I mean, how much how much can you prepare? So with what happened with the airbag ship? Or it's like there was mass recall? And I mean, like, what's the chance of that happening to a helmet like how much he considering what it's made out of? and longevity? Do I need to replace my home and every 10 years or something? Absolutely. What about
what about the mail but like you see a bunch of people on expensive box rockin $5 helmet from 711.
Well, I mean, that's the funny thing like a helmet to helmet like it's a $5 helmet has passed the same safety tested, a $250 helmet has passed. So that said, it's actually for the for the high end helmets, it's actually harder for them to pass because you think put things in there like you layer materials in there. The safest, safest material is the APS like the expandable polystyrene that they put into the mode. And so if you just had a big layer of that on your head, then suede. And yes, that but then the aerodynamics come into it, which is marginal but
yeah, so I remember going to the skate ball, which we spend a lot of time at, in our childhood, which wasn't far from our place. And I was on my bike and I was there by myself with a mate But no, no parent, and I had this shitty helmet on it wasn't cool to wear helmets still. I mean, it's not like cool. What's more cool now is safety wasn't really when I think there's cooler helmets now.
Just because you're a dad now safety. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. But I had this frickin helmet it was just like it was a joke because it was just all over the shop and tightened it up but I just knew I needed where and I'm thankful I did. I was dropping into the big ball with the big girl and I pulled in and I just went straight from the top down to the bottom out upon falling my helmet had turned down to the side of my face and I smashed my side of my face and I was fine. So now I didn't smash the hallway but the shitty helmet say saved me from having
fun as funny as I say all the time people riding around with helmets on back to front and it's literally like his helmet like bike out there specifically designed to have like the retention system at the back is taught in it Yeah.
And these things sit up like one of those India yeah
the front was you know it took me This is embarrassing I fucking couldn't work out what those things coming out the top of helmets were and now and I want people putting cable ties when I worked at their cable ties well their cable sighs Yeah, that's what I mean. Worked and I was like, why and then it was what is it my class? It's for the magpies. Yeah,
which doesn't work. Yeah.
It's it's you having a stance on the issue? Because you know where you stand when you say that who's
the first person to put those on the helmet?
Well, it's like it's the isn't that the same theory as a scarecrow? Like it's trying to stop the bids coming in but it doesn't work like it I read. I read a review on it. That's it. Meg Cox. They The best way to stop a magpie is to make eye contact with it or a shotgun.
scarecrow best one I've ever seen Scott pipe on
Yay. So think about like a big long piece of it's almost like popping that sort of can sway back and forth but the thing of it kinda yeah lucky chaos and then owner It was almost like it was escape. It was like a crow. Yeah, it was. I just Yeah, I was just getting blown in the wind and South actually looks like it's flying. You don't want to fuck with these animals stats and realise right? Surely that thing's bullshit. docks at parks there over humans are like in fact
Yeah, when I had enough for you what issues were seeing I was at the moment
is a man for you.
infectious diseases really here Have you got this from the news? Better? No, I seven confirmed now I actually see gals there's a storey in my family where we went to a beach lot of seagulls hang and my dad for whatever reason fucking hates it like really despises seagulls.
He hates it back in coffee. Yeah, and it's Sega because they're annoying
yeah yeah no no I think there was also because
that's a good name for but what i what i do know that he did was we're fading chips and then he was sort of showing off a little bit but he got the esky lead on and he threw the Sq lead at the seagulls and you think they just fly why fucking knocked one of them and it was it wasn't it's a busy busy page. Yeah, and we and we were the person the family will with Yeah, one of the ladies was like a an animal lover. She cut dog's hair like that was a job. And so she had to like collect the car and put it like underneath the tray where it was going to go down to dead Do
you lean into it now?
He's a bit of that is like it's like yeah, we all killed a bird by by accident. When like on my
50 oh my god murder. He were having fish. We're having the fish and chips. seagulls around pigeons around was sitting there on Clarendon Street and South Melbourne. BZ Road. And he just was like that was so annoying because people feed them I mean people like deal come over here and just feed say gals look at this animal. I'll give this little chippies and so he's at and it's just on this through it we look over as my glide glance looks over I just see a wheel OHS fucking pitcher will he just eat is it just roll adjust as the signal jumped a car tire I just it was like in slow motion and he
said today oh
Do you know what he did when upstairs and did a talk break on it?
known anyone to actually do that thing where you give a tiny
Yeah, but I feel
like Tommy jacket would be prime so
I don't haven't done any of that gronk shit maybe it was the way we were brought up. We loved animals we had every fucking we had we had everything we had rabbits. lizards, we had pigs yep turtles chickens. Snakes your mind died yours was remember
I sold mine and Oh
yeah, yep, yep. But we had lots of animals. And it was a like a rumour or myth at Hot promise school. That if you yeah
what we'll do we know someone's done it
sounds like it was good.
Yeah, some up ass bro. Aspirin blows them up missing it seven What have you found? Just a video on YouTube of YM? One of my favourite videos on YouTube. Oh shit.
What am I fat? Hey, they're just blow up. It's bullshit. One
of my favourite videos.
Is this me say 97 just just watching YouTube I'm bullshit.
Venice Beach in California different say gals over there baby. Huge like over in Spain. England the fucking seagulls a huge America fat things
what a what's the thing that's bigger than a say down but it's not it's not a pelican Pelican
go down a rabbit hole of pelicans eating pigeons. It's hilarious. It's hilarious because they don't actually eat them. They're just in their bacon. And they fly off and it's you can say fly. But anyway, Sam gronk gets laxatives fades it to the birds in Venice. And then there's hundreds and hundreds of people on the beach and these and then he just like goes right and they jump up and they're just shooting all over me. Shooting. Guess right? Just all over your face. I saw you.
What's your What's your favourite holiday destination
now, mala? mala? Mala.
Yeah. We went to drive on dad's lap. That's right.
I've been there. 10 plus times. It's very hard to bait now with kids.
Yeah. So CJ, I feel like people go to Fiji.
We didn't go to you go as a kid
to Fiji. Yeah, went to Vanna White. Oh, yeah, I remember. Very expensive Magnum ice creams. I was wondering I just need one a neighbour. Island prices of Magnum I think was like nine bucks. Well,
technically, if it wasn't for Mikey's love of Bali. I wouldn't be married.
We wouldn't all be
magic trick of a person I'd be. Do you think I've become a better person since meeting Amy.
Yeah. I don't know if that's because I me. Yeah, you
may Where do you stay in Bali because there's what there's cooter. I'm going in an order here, this CUDA, then there's layin. And then there's seven Yak and now there's
Django Django Next on the list. As you work your way up north. So we're all going to send me ektron go for a bit just because it's the rest of it. Restaurants up and then we'll try and get down to like,
down south like,
like no to do or or what's on the cliff.
You got married them. So
what's it what's the beach bar? Yeah. What's your feelings beach or water?
Or got there? I mean, you spent that much money in the wedding. I can kind of remember that.
I've spent five years trying to forget about
the cost of it.
Still there? Forget about it. All you. Have you been there? 10 plus times you say 10 plus times. So how many times have you been delayed based on volcanic ash? Not once. Really. I feel like that's all you hear about is it and
the coups that are going on up in buddy Indonesia. Oh, you can't go to Bali? Yeah.
Yeah, if you haven't been I remember when I went in 1998 there was some sort of coolness I remember play with red bandanas or whatever on motorbikes. It was a very exciting this sale.
You talking about the Crips?
It was it was some sort of political thing I just remember. And the other thing I remember from Bali was
never in Bali, though. Was that in Bali? Today it's up in
like him Jakarta Rosada the night I just do the like the monkey farms or shit like that. Or as I did the first couple of times. Yeah, once you've done it once. Once you don't want to do it one more time to check
it because we went there. There was like a big family holiday. Yeah, my just DOD got a bit of money. Actually,
when I went as well. granddad
grandpa. Yeah, it's the place he go when grandma dies.
We could have at least had a toast to Grand
paragliding yeah I want to fucking wise I want fireworks I want a BB gun.
That was the good old days
might you could bring him back I mean the good old guys still just as dangerous yeah it dies in we could have taken down an aeroplane we could have been MH three ID orders MH whatever it was like you think about I saw
was there wasn't a couple of buttons coming back from
works it was what's the one that Miss went missing it's see they still don't know things MH 370 said some
what's the said at the end? I don't know it's just a flat no
it's a major airlines flight but didn't they didn't just recently come out that it was they've arrested two people for
if I bring banners back from both oh yeah
I'm going ladies are currently
going to that will add
I mean it's another thing you hoarded was the fireworks like this is how loose it was when we were growing up we had remember that order form we got it was a piece of paper we printed it off and we went through and we ticked off the fireworks we want we sent it to camera with some cash or Hello Adeline anyway and they fucking sent back a box full of fireworks
that I used to go into the city into little bit extra yeah there's a little grocery store there and I go in there and I'd be like I worked any luck just make it white from it and the guy yeah a guy in the back and he bring out some skyrocket yeah
it always ended up in disasters it out now have you had them yeah there was one time with you know the one that sort of spins it like it's a rectangular type of it was rectangle wheels something count wheels like a flying dancing thing man yeah it would go on the ground and you're looking over
and we'll Catherine wheel who's Catherine why why is it
but anyway went horribly wrong deadliest hit it was always involving dead and fireworks but he lived it and then went on to its side shooting and that I think was last night.
Yeah, you've only got to watch a couple of Fourth of July videos and to get some laughs about that in America they go so mad
yeah jack post was just over there yeah any I saw him at the firework store do this thing was fucking decked out just wall to wall firework.
Yeah, I went in Florida. They've got heaps and was it Yeah. And so I bought I bought a bunch a few years ago, and then actually googled, like, what's the deal? How do you? You know, how do you let him let him go? It turns out that you can only do it for like agricultural purposes. So if you're trying to like scare birds and shit, that's what you use the fireworks for. So it's like this must be pretty when you're scared. So that's what I thought was weird. And so what we ended up doing, I was with my mate who's American. And we, we were it was like 930 at night and we tried to go to like the sheriff's like department like the cop shop are here. And and we couldn't we couldn't close but we called them I just put on my like Australian accent which wasn't hot. We put it on. Yeah,
I was just like a little bit. He's actually Russia. That was like, I was like, Oh, good. I My name is Josh. Yeah,
I'm from Australia. I've just bought these fireworks. Where can I let them out? Like are you can't? Unless you've you know, for agricultural purposes. What about my god? I've just bought them is there any way that I could do it? And I like look, if you do it away from people, it'll be okay. And so it was good.
Thanks got a similar storey moment paying about God he was somewhere in Nevada or something. And he he said something similar like you have to go to the cop shop and get the approval to let them off the cup loved it so much. He says yeah,
to this like big like field where there was nothing. I was like, oh, let's do it. That's good. Well,
I actually went to the Philippines created a whole documentary called goodbye Philippines, which is referring to a firecracker that is so big they called goodbye Philippines. It's like a massive. And so I went to like the manufacturing, like where they manufacture the fireworks. And especially the ones that are illegal in like random field and I just go into this little shed. Yeah. And I've got like silver, like just all the chemicals and stuff using sad and that's why I fact my ear, because I like as soon as as soon as you say that you're making a fireworks documentary in the Philippines. They all just get their fight like they don't normally let them out until like New Year's. It's crazy. Like you they can't even the airport in Manila. They actually have to shut down four times because of the amount of pollution that's in the air from the day after years. It's crazy. It's weird.
I mean, cultural sort of things that happen different countries. What's the favourite of what what you've experienced while travelling? You know, like the the maybe food or
red envelope in China. Have you ever gotten a red envelope from any Chinese businessman? I mean, that's just like, right? Yeah, you just get Catholic. It's like Chinese New. You get a red envelope full of cash. Yeah, right. I always wanted to be Chinese Jewish. But like, just for the cash. You spent
some time in Germany.
Yeah, I was just gonna say Germany was good. Like the food. It's always around food. Maybe that's just me, but it is always like you really remember the food like Germany, there was some luck at the bike trade shows or some sick like the pastor, he made the sausage, the dishes, but then actually China was I was because I was travelling to the factories like, probably every six weeks, I was up there for a week for a period of a couple of years, and six or eight weeks. And you would so that they would they employed 2000 people that would feed them every day. It cost them on average, one US dollar a day to feed every person. And so they would kind of peel your way at lunchtime and take you into the managers area and they'd have this person cooking for you and they put all like full fish and like all these massive dishes and I'd be on the Lazy Susan and they end up just how many did they call it the Lazy Susan in Chinese? Chinese?
Who Susan yc lazy.
Anyway, so Carolyn a cartwheels? What the fuck? Who was the difference? So this particular day, I said,
let's not worry about that. Or let's not go out to the to one of the restaurants or whatever, let's just what everyone else is eating. Not sure. So yeah, that's just like bringing one of those little polystyrene boxes. And so they brought it in. And it's basically just like fried rice. And the meat you get is like 80% bone 20% made like that. They're just like, very rationed pieces. So it's a slave camp. And today, and this day, that was like tofu, and it was like, it was really dark. And I was like, oh, what if they like, cook this in like, you know, squid ink or something? Like, fancy with it anyway. And they liked what he tofu and I was like, yeah, this that like this. It was like a block of it. And I was like, ought to be ready. And they
like, Oh, no, that's
that's not okay. I was like, what, what is it? And they're like, from the duck. I was like, What part of it? And they're like the blood. It was just it was just boiled.
It tasted delicious.
I mean, we can we can look at what they are and go putrid but they also using what the animal eyes to the full extent whereas here we throw out some shit. Oh, we don't need that little bit just fine. I love salami. Use it all. Yeah, I mean, that's you're just getting the leftovers of everything. Yeah, salami. That's the thing. I think it's all how its position. I felt sick after eating that Salamis. Yes, it really just felt a bit full.
It was a dense lunch.
That's why I've moved when you're in Germany, and you and you had that random encounter with all of us. Remember? No fact I'm glad I remember. snowed in here remember yet? Germany? 2011? I don't know. I'm just making numbers out. Yeah. And you're in a hotel because your flight can go out? Yeah. And then you're walking out of the hotel. Yeah. And all of us walking in. Remember this?
You don't even notice well as I should clearly and
so all of the walks in his mind from grew up mark. He's known him. You know, since we were young. And they're in Germany. Everyone's snowed in you can't fly was that year that like the UK Germany was at Europe was so bad.
It's a throw we shut down. And that's where I was trying to get back to.
I didn't like the idea of being snowed in. Preferably not saying anyone on neither.
Well, here's the thing. You won't remember it because he can't
get the idea. Like when
I was up. I remember you telling me this? I mean, I remember I actually feel like
it's so weird storeys isn't like one
memory. It's like we we do our best to remember stuff. What's a childhood memory? Do you remember this one? When I farted? And it sounded like
Do you remember where we were? Nah, wait, wait. I reckon we're out the front on our dick.
No, no, it was in the bath.
I've got a very vivid memory. Oh, I can't
really remember. But I remember that. I remember something happening there. What happened?
sound like a dolphin.
Dolphin. What? It's it's what your father said dolphin. It said something called.
sounded like it was that you spoke out of your eyes for the first time. It was
because you were sitting in a bath in Marlo at that holiday. And the all the water was gone? Yeah. And you were when you wouldn't get out of the bath. And
then like Bodie. Yeah.
That's, that's funny. Where would you go on? So you've mentioned Flinders before? What do you guys remember of family holidays?
Flinders was great. Like we went there every couple times a year. Lot of surfing. I actually lived in Flint. And a few years ago, went back there. Yeah, we always stayed like, well, that's why Bali was always big. Buck that was like that. 20 years 2007 trip. Like,
yeah, but then how do you avoid the Bogan Valley experience? Do you think I
go to Kota? stay pretty Adelaide again,
it's very easy to avoid it, you do end up staying in wherever you're staying the whole time, like resorts and stuff.
Yeah, we're trying just just to mix it up, we'll try and move a couple of times. So stay up in 70 echo Tango, but half the time and then we'll go down to down to like one of the really nice resort or, like you just Eric's quite excluded down there. So you kind of you don't do a lot of shopping or not that I do a lot of shopping but you don't do a lot of travel around, you just stay in the resort. No Hawaiian shirts. Now, I mean, the first couple of times you buy a couple of that stuff.
You see how hard it is, once you have a family, the effort could ripples. Just Just the effort and thought that has to go into
CY is a kids club at the
club, I refuse to get the kids because you the kids are just so annoying when you're a kid and the nannies are
great. Like if you if you you know a lot of people can get over the trusting but the nannies are amazing. Like if you can, you know you're paying six bucks an hour because that's it. And it's a really good career for them over there. And they love the kids and they've all got into their own you end up where you end up at saying to them if you you know if one of your kids wants to come bring him along, because that's cool. Yeah, yeah. It's great.
Club in Hard Rock Cafe. Yeah. Included encoder. Yeah, I just read it with code. It was me with hard rock. Yes.
To go to the one here. Yeah,
I'm sad it closed down.
He's the guy that also if he goes to hard rock, he goes to cooter.
Well, I do but maybe I had the full bug and experience. I didn't realise it as a kid. Like he was
sure you did it when you went to Bali? Yeah. You went to hard rock. Yeah. You went to the
it was hard rock. Maybe Hard Rock was quite like in in. I mean, I stayed at the Hard Rock in Vegas. slogans in the 90s It wasn't a bargain in the
army. And the thing with hard rock is it's all inclusive, isn't it? So it's like all your food and your drinks and
I wasn't paying I was like, Yeah, I do. Remember the storey sumo wrestling that's what sticks in my it's funny when you're a kid what sticks into Sumo suits and you'd wear them and all that sort of thing karaoke I feel like it's a big thing for Bali like going to places maybe that
you're in China this like 4k TV massive building.
What is it? What is it about that thing that they love?
Well, there's a bit of a seedy side to it is this
well like in China like you can go I've actually because I and just do not go into the microphone for seeing that. There you can go to KTV and then you get all like the service that the girls come and serve you drink and they the
strip club brothel
it's not a storey you're off it's not either of those it's neither of those but they it's entertainment like it's the female anytime they come they become hostesses Sure.
I feel like this guy trying to explain to his wife that he didn't go to
St. Cloud was a karaoke No, it was female entertainment.
It was no that was just it was neither or neither.
It sounds a bit dark is it?
Yeah, yeah. But but there's just like you can just go and just lock it is here like just to karaoke but there's also the add on services like the girls come in time
and some money so they is it family friendly at all? They like families doing karaoke and you just don't get it?
Because I've never paid cash but I would assume not. I would assume it's not family.
I really that's interesting, because I like karaoke
in Davina. What looks like karaoke. Do
you think it's awful? Yeah. Before you know it you can't leave unless you spend 100 bucks or whatever you mentioned nor hear nor that what was uh what he said
neither. Neither here nor now that you is using something but then add add dad saying
Yeah, what is what's your dad's? that's neither here nor
there. Which is one that he has. He says a lot.
Do you guys feel like you're turning more and more into dad as you get older?
You're quite like timber?
Yeah. Yes, Lance.
Yeah, like plants.
Now, I think so. Yeah. I think you kind of just can't help it. Like, that's me. I think that's a fascinating thing in life, did you you kind of notice that the traits of your parents and the things that they do and the things that would have given you the shits when you're a kid and then you're like, on that? I'm starting to do that. Especially when you start having kids.
And the middle rather thing. Do you think it's real? He's the middle brother. Josh and I are both younger brothers. And we've both come from three boys.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And the middle listen to the show. Absolutely.
What's the yeah it is the middle child you know the middle child chip on the shoulder type of deal.
I don't think I've got the chip on my shoulder it's it's
but I don't not not like a chip on my shoulder. Like in now growing up Tommy was it was a sock line and my older brother was a bit the same. Yeah. And I sort of I kind of tended to sort of just withdraw a bit and just like also because I went to school on the other side of town and different school to both or Tommy tried it but didn't try that different school did both and and Tommy so all my friends were over the outside of town and I would spin Fridays to Sunday sometimes just
stay in other kids houses and stuff. Do you think boys school or Boys School think it's a different music?
I don't know better with banter better with bad boys. I'm just trying to understand but
I think what how you grew up it was with the boys the pub. I've got a very
I've got a very broad like a broad social group. Like we I still see a lot of friends from school and see anyone from school Josh? not interesting. Yeah, so I don't know. Maybe that's some banter wasn't good. But you know, that can be two years were like, the rebellious at school. Or all they kind of didn't like each other as much as a year and then, like, it can be just the luck of the draw.
Yeah. Oh, what was Tommy like, as a brother growing up?
He was intense. I suppose. That's.
I mean, I know you've spoken about it before on the show. Like, even Amy what he listened to. But yeah, Tommy was just intense. He had a lot of energy. He didn't take off. He wasn't wanting to kind of stick with authority or
disagree. Highly disagreeable.
Did you guys get along?
Yeah, yeah, we get along and I'm like, I don't have any like memories of like, our that was shit. Like that was, you know, Tommy and and, like for a bit, but then like, that's also an age thing, too. Is is different. Like, that's a big gap.
We've become and I've become better friends as we've got older. Yeah. Well, I did live with him when I was 17 for a little while, but then we work together. I think as you get older friendships become better. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you hope I hope that just because if the problem was the age gap at the start, like you and I were hanging out going to the park and you know, fighting together. You know that she had better think yet. We had brother. Family stuff. Sweet. Yeah. I mean, you hope that you have a nice relationship with your family.
Yeah. I mean, what is it like Christmas time? jackets? what's the what's the deal? I feel like Christmas says a lot about
family. We don't we don't put a huge amount of energy into
into Christmas. That will be on my mic DOM. Deal just to get him to chill on the couch.
Yeah, we're not a huge Christmas family. So we kind of done the Christmas Eve dinners and we have done Christmas lunch.
I've tend to like other families Christmases. Better than nothing. No, but no, I don't think we put like I look at your Claire and her family and the amount of time I've been to that fucking more than I've had Christmas dinners with my own right. Yeah. But there, they put so much effort. It's like this big thing. And so there is something about your own family when I reckon we had the best Christmas. In July last year. We did a random Christmas in July. At mom and dad's house. I was just crying. It was just fucking
Yeah. Well, that's the other thing about
Christmas. Like because Christmas. I don't like that much. So the idea of doing it again, another time of the year is like, well, that's just alive. That's just alive. But it's just to get together.
Because there's so much like there's so much anxiety it can can come up around Christmas. Like it brings up shoot stuff
people could you get rid of like
Christmas and stuff like it triggers people
or people who've got like, family members have died, all that sort of shit. I mean, he's
our grandfather died on Christmas Eve. Yeah. I mean, I like that. That has to be some kind of impactful. Thinking around that for mom and he worked at Toys Toys R Us and died there on fucking Christmas Eve. Asad that
busy period today. Come in. And shop.
Fact, and so you could I don't know, I've never spoken to mom about that if it's triggering.
Yeah, I just think it's like, like families don't necessarily, like get along all the time. Like
when you're an adult and you're building your own families. Does that then become like a up for discussion? Wow. Like how much time to like, I know that. You know, when my grandparents all had died, then it becomes a thing about Okay, do we need the cousin like who do we need involved in Chris like?
packing? Yeah, well,
now that it is a little bit like that, right, which is like you can start to manoeuvre as you have your own family. Like you think about it, what your Christmas was like, you might eventually have your version of the Christmas that doesn't involve your siblings or whatever, because you've created your own.
Well not like this year, I will host Christmas and we'll have both like mine and my wife's family. Two and a half. Yeah, so it'll just be a big mix of actually the best Christmas I had was when we were living down in Flinders and we were like, and that was the whole other storey but there was like three couples and we all had we all invited all of our families down to Christmas we set up this big long table
like 30 people that I think guy Why don't you know I didn't go because we've got the the deal. Oh, yeah, do well, because internet international interstate family one on one off. So it's where are we having New Year's we're having Christmas. The other
places another big one this way? We're doing both here.
Which means I have to probably do both next year up there.
And so the what do you do news a? How much pressure do you put on the news a? Really
easy, isn't it?
I don't do it. I don't do anything.
Ever a bit.
Well, I mean, I just like perfect news is like in bed by 10
Yeah, these a bit like it seems like a cliche, but the change that I mean, yes, but you haven't come from doing the hard news. Like that new I only had an first New Year's off alcohol for the first time in 15 years recently.
I like being overseas actually. That's the one thing Brian and I were talking about it the more Christmases we can do where it's like that's good. Why?
Yeah, like I used to get right up in a bad news a visit like as a younger teenager did the new days and then you do the news day like festival thing like summer days.
Yeah, big Festival Gala night. I mean I used to be like I used to like it. Is it for the music?
Yeah, well that's why I just wonder like how much of it is like it's fun I love this this
is the headline the headline Music The X or what gets you there like that's how you make your decision I suppose around and then you're doing tense and
No, no, that's like that's like camping This is just one day you turn up in in the flavour a polo shirt
study short for
you. I feel like you're an example of some someone I think Tommy your bit like this too, which is like friendship group like you've got your groups that you can go because I don't have that from like school days or whatever. So it's not like like have you got those traditions and stuff? How do those changes just start
off going it dad next month we go to know sir from partying to without, with friends to all going up to know that there's like six six families out there. We're all
out there for this the dynamic change when you go from when everyone has kids to all of a sudden Are there any cases where people are great as single people or even people in partners but as soon as they have kids they become awkward so like it was that not too much of an issue.
No, no nothing springs
helps. It helps if your friends doing at the same time. Yeah. Conspiracy Jimmy Yeah, he's had a baby similar time to so
a lot of has to align though doesn't
three months apart. Amazing. Yeah, he was like, Oh, shit, son, Amy's pregnant. And then couple of weeks later, he's like, yeah, and character.
Because my parents actually planned me to be around the exact same time as I've got, like three friends that we're like, part of the same mothers group or whatever. And they all like we're all like, one week out of September. It was like New Year's, you know? 1989 I don't know if I'm born 1990 whenever that before they're like, let's all we sort of want all kids now.
Yeah. Which is weird anything about the conception
video. Now I say like when when you get kids with friends landing on the same in the same like, we've got a couple of like, well, panna He's like, they just we just had Rupert like, for four months ago, they were only a month behind or something or a couple of months behind so that's perfect because it's just an environment like they just all in the same have the same understanding about what's the trigger for what
would be cool if I mean it, the weird thing is right Jools Holland, one of your best friend, good friend, his mom went to primary school with my mom, ama, and it's like, what are the chances because we were friendly with him when we were young. It was at a later stage. She became good mates with him and so it's I mean, that's I like it's cool because I go I want James you know, conspiracy Jimmy son to be best mates with God. high chance it probably won't happen. But
I don't really care about the kids. I'm just care about.
You do whatever you want when you that I
just to finish off a memory that I have that I don't know. I mean, it's you just told me the storey. Morning, I'm mom and dad were away. And you had a gathering and Agilent
gatherings and we're always naughty God.
crashes came and you had to hose them down by hose them with a hose. Right? I mean, either. You just been spin and bullshit storeys. To me a long time. Now. I don't know.
I mean, kind of. But
yeah, I mean, impactful. You got a hose out. There's a guy trying to get over I
know that the storey the involved.
What did you remember the storey with gas. And the when I when mom and dad went away, that's what triggered this thought. And we were going through a period of making hash cookies.
Yeah, I was making. Yeah. Well, we'll buy him.
And this particular time, though, you'd made this batch and I was going out I said just whatever you do. Yeah. Don't let the dogs getting I wasn't listening. And so and so sorry, mate. Just Just like I don't care what you do. Don't let the fucking dog cuz they'll get into them. Don't let them get into these things.
Well, there are good cookies that were that like,
do you have to worry about that with Do you have any pets now? No. You think you'll be a pet died?
So anyway, so I get home and I open the front door and I literally see this little Whippet lady lane, like leaning on the whole on the whole live wall. But at the other end of the whole, so he's leaning on the wall and then I'm like, oh, Cassie, what's going on? And I'm like, cuz he looked at
me and he didn't get off the wall. But he walked to me
literally, and he looked up at me and he's just like he's just stand out of his mind.
We had to call the vet and he's like,
you can give himself to try and Mama otherwise just give him a cattle and let it ride out. Yeah,
he would have got that phone call a couple of times. I remember he so where I left them was just on my bedside table. And he the little rat had jumped up onto the bed and then got he's not nozzle into the fact cookie. I don't know how many had I've got a video of it. I've had a little video of him dislike me even does this thing where like, when you really stand you can do this thing where someone says hey, you kind of doubletake like you do this.
Also your eyes don't get
quick as your head.
He knew Hey, do you think hey enjoy.
Mikey Thank you for coming on webcam banter. Yeah. It's the the daily talk show. We should get you back as as well.
Yeah, it would be good having Josie on as well. So I'll do a full family affair.
That's good. Thanks.
We'll see you tomorrow for Episode 400. I'm trying to say God