- May 11, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Friday May 11 (Ep 84) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
It’s a Friday fun one! Tommy makes a friend in a steam room, collaborators vs partners and some upcoming guests!
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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 84 I'm Josh Johnson I'm telling me jacket and it's Friday It's Friday fun yeah boy a Friday fun one I think that might be is that a Hamish and Andy
now the pants off Friday
yeah Friday from one and all
fucking way no pants if I want I can just just because they making bank yeah and they have the biggest
who does these heinous copies
man I fucking had the funniest thing happened to me I'll be the judge what happened I went so I was at the gym and I am I had a meeting right near my gym and I mean I could just leave it at say I went to the gym I did not fucking use any exercise equipment I was just close by having a meeting so I ended up going to the gym to use the sauna the same room sorry steam room difference between a steam room in a sauna sauna is dry okay My name is like just can't be on your phone in the steam room I fucking sure dude on his iPhone in there is lightweight your cane dude it's fucking 40 is 50 degrees in there and you get completely weird anyway so there's a fuse I just get a life bro
in the sense that dude with these iPhone just
I just take your business outside because he's definitely doing business
so you were steam room guy though? I mean you just asked you didn't even know the fact of steam room What I you know the saunas seem to be the hot thing at the moment Pun intended that's I've started doing little 16 32nd grabs of the best bits of the daily talk so yeah I know just just found this bit if you've you're hearing this on Instagram
know the I've never done a sauna never done a steam room yeah mainly because of other people okay well I feel you know that's the exact problem
comes to zone is another thing I
back off back this Instagram is low so
i i was I'm a bit Jaggi sometimes sure and I feel like I'm leading you into my thoughts because a lot of the time I'm proved wrong and is just one of those moments where I walk past the steam room and I looked in there was this dude sort of a gray head so I headed like a top not like I feel like I say something
highly offensive but I definitely
not definitely not super tanned and I looked in and he's fucking shaving
shaving in the same room. And so you know I'm already triggered by another guy who's been going to the gym where I go for 20 years and after every fucking shower puts fucking baby powder on him and it goes all over the ground and he doesn't clean it up and you've never said anything
and you're judging but you you see it's interesting Tommy jacket saying it's not my place because I feel like that's definitely not your mantra well he's been there for 20 years it's fucking it flies his place it's probably the owner it's actually he's been there for so long that the the baby powder has become sort of a crusty every day every fucking day the dudes in there doing it it's
the thoughtful but what's how to use baby powder anyone yeah
I think you use online he's back for the shirt so the shirt doesn't chase I don't know maybe if it's another thing if it sounds
like a whole bread roll Episode The message is putting oddly let's just say he's not a chiseled man yeah he's maybe it helps with these bed sores or something well that's
what I think he was anyway I already judged that guy and
he goes to the gym every day and he's not ripped yeah if you go to the gym every
fucking doing it wrong is he going to patch Express good point but I guess point of the mole isn't as he literally just got easy just using it the bathroom and going
there's benefits in just go to the gym even if you and getting ripped and rock hard okay so anyway I
judge that game room and maybe
I shouldn't so basically the listeners this maybe you don't maybe I shouldn't fucking judge people so quickly because I went into the sauna and I said the steam room and I was thinking fact this is gonna be funny it's just main him in there and wait to be completed he's the guy that shaving the one that's normally the Bible I was just saying that that's I'm already triggered at the gym by someone else
and I've judged it it's different and so
I thought fact this guy sees me he's a jerk in there and so I opened up with killing two birds one stone and the kind of laughed said I you know again you're saving in your steam room done he said oh yeah it's a bit naughty they fucking a they have a gallop me but it's it is fun. I wash it down you know there's a like a hose tap in there and so automatically it's fucking good point. Anyway we got into this great conversation can
I guess the conversation now as you can well I'll give it a go Steve was it about staying being grateful opening up the pores Do you talk about okay didn't go there yeah that's what's what I would have said going back to my Queer Eye for the straight guy doesn't open
up the pores is probably the best place to be doing it but what did you what the fact is you talk about with shaving man man he's a head of luck in lighting production at a network in Melbourne for television network interesting and so far no no he's like hit of I don't know what it is I didn't quite get it but he had just really interesting thoughts around the the landscape of TV and the shows that are wrong and then he handed me this lotion that he was using it was like in a it was a boss said loop that's fine but he's like a try some of these Eucalyptus you know not fucking sick and it was like naughty as well because you know how to use fucking shampoo products in there we've got a title for this episode naughty in the steam
You're being so naughty but I
walked away I've got his email address I'm gonna fucking kidding me This is so the G might go to is full of gay people yeah and I said to somebody after I walked out I said I've had this this fucking great chatting the steam room just looked at me at this gym
fracking What that means is just something completely different no no no no
but I just thought fuck it is so easy to just to see somebody treat been triggered by what they doing and judge them because I thought about this fucking ourselves a Chevy himself in the shower like who's hacking does that Yeah. And then I was in there I was I get it
well, I'm going to be less Jaggi because the person giving a mouse and so you can email him now. Yeah,
if anything. I told him I've got a production company and you know very new age style of content online stuff or via via and I love that. He's up fact. Yeah, that's awesome. And so you What do you were? Yeah. So you were
he was wearing undies? What? brand bonds? Because I have this assigned pair and I just wear my shorts that I try and the gym. Okay. Some dudes go fucking full node. Yeah,
it's real commitment. I do because it's a bit of a hip cool thing to do Joe Rogan? Tim Ferriss, they're doing Captain he's fucking
spots on Steam rooms. stuff but Sony Entertainment a call at the moment
and also cry. Oh, oh, yeah. Yeah. Jumping into like a freezing cold and float tank. Salt float day. Yeah, I would be way more into cry. And it's got nothing to do with the temperature and everything to do with Christ. Are you doing to finally have an excuse for that small Dickie guy
Simon? Yeah, I
didn't Instagram story before saying, Hey, guys, should we swear less on the podcast? But I've accused you of sucking a guy me of having this.
were in a silly mood. I think it's because we were planning on doing the podcast earlier. And we started having conversations we were we were going deep,
deep, deep work.
And the end it I don't know if people would realize or think of how much thought we actually put it were putting into this. Yeah, yeah.
Well, I mean, jokes on us. We don't
make any money. We got families and businesses to run annoyingly the one day that Bray works from home is one of the days where we chatting a lot about the podcast because he's just looking at the time being like a great you've done the podcast, I might know that was just to actually start recording it
that way. You can walk away from the fucking conversation. Just be so drain. Yeah,
I hope Did you find that training with the company? So what we're talking about? Yeah, go
north. We have the North Korea episode yesterday. We've been talking about we love having guests on. Yeah, speaking to Chris and we started talking about my obviously what are we what are we we're not hard hitting journalists. That's for sure.
Definitely not. And,
and I think that we're constantly thinking about those things like okay, we're is a little bit of structure and I think it's the it's the important bit of it's all about partnerships and what he I had a I felt like on the cry carpet when I talk too much.
I tried for the very first time to do what you said which is to embrace pauses and I let you talk and he said nothing
the last time that I'm ever doing it yeah I mean, did you want positive affirmation of you I was literally missing so that one of the things we've been talking about is I yeah, I feel like I taught like you've never really given me this feedback I feel like I'm talking too much yeah and I want to
Michelle gave us the feedback
early days it was more about me interrupting you and talking I view where is now
the thing is, it's so based or any sugar level
if you have a bag of chocolate it's true well I'm gone in my 85% chocolates not funny howdy much sugar well it's
something must be cafe cafe. Yeah, but no, I get it. I think I think Alicia out of it. Because I think maybe it bores people hearing about intricacies of our podcast. Yeah, but awareness of something leads to change. Yeah, you gotta realize you're gonna fucking problem or you can realize the potential greatness you could you like a greatest scenario of your city? I should. Have you been looking at it. How do you think we're different as creatives?
I I honestly, I constantly think
that I need to take on a bit of your overthinking and you need to take on a bit of my cowboy yeah and I think
and but but I say that because it's meeting in the middle it's like the best of both worlds it's always it seems in my head like it's a great combination you know being very analytical you know strategic and then the doing on top of that is like fact you're unstoppable what I think it comes down I think there is a level of
preparation can be great it can be the
it can help you develop but it can also be you can lose the magic right if we're if we are basing the show on just having great fact and conversations if we overthink it and over planet it's not going to be interesting it's just styles Oh no.
Hey Miss Blake's more off the cuff fucking amazing what's called an improviser yeah yeah amazing. Yeah jewels lands the opposite needing the structure yeah so if you throw either one
like hey we should probably sound awkward baby structures Yeah, exactly. Yeah if he was just having to reel off a bunch of questions or if he was yeah or even have the interest in going in and doing all that research and preparation and things like that for our global listeners Hamish and Andy biggest radio shows radio show in Australia and we will be having him on our episode hundred will get them all. But you know, I think that trying to think about all those things and create the space to think about it. It's hard when it's a what's a I think I say the daily talk show is more of a hobby. More than a hobby. But the same time more than a hobby or more of a hobby. More than a hobby.
Because he said more. I had to strive always you say that again? I had a stroke. Yeah,
so it's definitely yes. Think about all those things. But like, one of the things it's like, Okay, well, how do you
how do you create structure while still having fun? And what sort of thing and one of the things we're talking about is that in radio, especially in sort of the areas that you applying in the solution was around this one for one, right. Like, when it comes to question asking? Yeah, thing is, you got three minutes. Four minutes. Yeah.
And the reality is that, yeah, you need two voices. Because if it is it to voice show in three minutes, is very fucking short amount of time. Yeah. So yeah, you being very much ping pong. Yeah,
so I guess that our thing is, it's like, okay, we don't want to be ping pong. We don't want to just be back and forth, and having that sort of style, but it's also being like, respectful for the fact that I, I feel like, I know when I feel like I'm talking too much. So it's only like, trying to think in that moment and trying to do all that sort of shit. But it's, um, I put on trial lawyer because we're using trial. I now as one level of structure of show
sent to save x is Good try,
it would probably take evangelist yes,
no, I put I actually put on there
going into partnership. And and because I think that what we're talking about, and what we're discussing is so much about how do we coexist? How do we work together? How do we bounce off one another? It's one that we we talked about collaboration. So how do you manage your collaboration, this See, I mean, it's a partnership, it's the idea behind the ship is different population. That's I mean, just wanting to make the distinction. What do you think it is, it's different. I think a difference between a collaboration and partnership is a collaborations, probably shorter term, and it's maybe two sort of agendas or individuals coming together to, I don't know, like, bring their style, I think what it is, is it's two individuals coming together and bringing both their styles and a partnership is about the cohesion of two styles to create something new, it's actually a new entity that is formed, which is actually both which, with both of us sitting in there that makes sense. And then partnerships span from relationship
part. boyfriend, girlfriend,
girlfriend, girlfriend, and that's sad about Yeah, its
own business. Yeah, yeah.
fact many here. I mean, is this relating to business partners is that well, what
I've been thinking about is like, what our partnership because it feels like we, we started off as collaborators, and now we're slowly turning into partners. And it's interesting when working out the distinctions. I don't think other than brain, I haven't really had a partner. And so what are the complexities don't just take that grab? Yeah, and the steam room bit, put it all together the sucking off comment, and we'll go away. And
we've got the Instagram partners. In fact, there's so many. I'm gonna have so much fun labeling we set? Yeah.
So no, but I think it's about having those. Yeah, I didn't like those conversations that will be had because we have been having more dynamic conversations of light, which is like, Who are we? What do we wanted to show? How can we make it better? All that stuff
I love that you've articulated them is very specific questions, but they it's like, so messy. Yeah. Like, the conversations are so messy. And that's what any advice right? It's like saying, work out your five year plan. It's like that he's a Macy fucking process. And it's not as clear as how you just to take your lighter. Yeah. How to do it. And so the experience of it is probably what breaks people. Yeah, the same feelings of what I've had doing the radio show. And it's just nice when you actually have someone that you might not say, you know, well, I'm not mates with one of the CO hosts. Yeah, I wouldn't call myself nicer than the other one. She came to my wedding. Yeah.
And I didn't, I wasn't willing to shine. That's when you preface and say, well, we didn't really we went as close.
I like to leave you out there.
Let's say the guys they could also the wedding because I was the best man.
Now you have the videographer.
Did you have a video made
Yay. Lawrence was no Lawrence came. This is
this seems like a soft soft point is always say
Lawrence rent rent space out of my office. Yeah, he's also starting and he's production business. And I paid him to come along to shoot stuff. And I wasn't gonna have it edited. I just wanted to have it on file. And he did a cash tag on file was really great winning. Release it though. We love fucking watching it. That there's nothing about how we did it. We just love narcissists. And I know
it's just but now we fucking love watching it. Because most people say that might don't spend much money on you when you watch it once in your life. And that's it. classmates have Jackie Todd jacket. factor in how much value we've got out of that every night before we go to bed. It's you. Yeah,
it's interesting. Really an old photos like waiting stuff I am. He had a good point around those people that just are always doing flashback. So they're waiting. How long's that gonna last? Yeah, not
not married. Just your own fest. How long? How many? Can you crank out before your life? Fact? This can be boring.
We now you're married and work on your marriage. Rather
feel like you've had a real
push back in the lot these last week to Instagram. Now, are you a bit I've put up some stories on the daily talk show? I've cut together some promos. So if we're talking planning of the daily taught, you know, a live fucking being met and talking about what we want to do? Yeah. Well, what do you want the show to be? Where do you want it to go? What's your plan
everywhere? Just interviewing everyone having dynamic guests on the show, you know,
be guest celebrities or fucking Ooh, celebrities here. Or, you know, say, here you go. I want the show to create connection with people that I don't know. And people that I know. Yeah, I want to have conversations about stuff that I'm interested in and hear about perspectives that aren't mine. And, and opening my mind like fact, I've told the story about how I met the dude who has a show on fucking Netflix. Yeah. And, and I was connected to him through my videos that I put out on Facebook do by creating videos. And last night, I went for a beer with him. He's fucking he's named Robin. He has a show called long Maya on Netflix. It's got six seasons, watch it. It's a fact and repair show. And you've already been talking to him. And he's coming on the podcast, another podcast. Man. This is a dude who was in the fucking matrix. And I was sitting down having a beer with him last night and my point of it or were you in the matrix? Is it
okay I made is I will be measured gets directed
to the enjoy the matrix gag matrix. gags
you liked it. I said, Have you had the theories about the matrix? Because there's some serious like, I've had a few people ask. No, no, he did. He's heard them. And he's like they were when they were making it. We just talked about the movie being fucking like, well beyond a tease. The concept is just what people are talking about. Now, in a simulation. It's like that was 15 or 20 years ago. Something Anyway, what I loved about hanging out with him last night is he wanted to hang out with me. Yeah, he obviously see some kind of, you know, interested in me and I have this respect for him. You're in a steam room? Yeah. fuckin stay. Right.
Anyway. Just hearing this fucking just connecting with somebody. Yeah. And that's what this does audio and you know, when we're doing it. We're in the room or whispering to it's this connection and hearing fucking someone else's life and their perspectives on it. Because we're all living in the same world. But everyone's having a different experience. Craig happen to know what I've just thought what we need to do. I know that Tim Ferriss done it. We should do an interview in a sauna. We should do a conversation and sauna
Why don't we do the sword is good because he can't do stay. Well, that's where I was seeking. I'm worried about the equipment. Maybe we get him on in the sauna. He'd be a good fucking righ he exercises wouldn't be surprised if he has a sauna is half Oh,
there'll be good. All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask him. Let's try and get him on in the next 15 amps. Well, that's by 100. So yeah, let's do that with I can do in the sauna thing and these can be just that it's a safe space we're having a conversation with a couple of mates it's all low low but and the good thing is I have the protection of the microphone in the sense of we're in a sort of, we've got to talk about you at least have something to grab onto gritty assembly
wolf hoodies coming soon
we'll grab that as a sandbox. Um yeah no i think that the yet what you're describing there is is a community right like you a way what I've noticed is the the value in having like minded people, that's one element but that are also on like completely different paths, all with the same sort of vision you think of Rob or you think of Hime you think of like a bunch of different people who were connected with where it's like we're all doing really similar things in some regards just on way different scales and obviously you know for Rob that's talking to Hollywood and you know big blockbuster stuff don't just a message out of what Rob said to me that I don't even made him on the podcast anymore which is he just challenged me on thinking big and it was like you know talking about a pilot that I'd shot for a doc Oh series. Yeah,
and we're looking you know, so I'm speaking with ABC to
America is just saying fucking Mexico. Think about all these places out there Netflix he's like oh, get your fucking meeting Netflix as long as you fucking pitches good enough. Yeah,
like you were solid on the pitch Yeah,
like and so I hadn't even thought about that yeah and and I hadn't even allowed myself to think about that because I'm like, oh just you know, you know Australia here and but he's thing you know, this is a dude Made in America. This is where the meanest a new film that's coming out with Jason Statham, which sounds fucking awesome. The beat now you don't know it's about a ginormous shark in
jaws the beat It's called the big shark you know the big Meg all the mag okay the Megatron omega anyway, but this is a dude who is thinking big. Yeah, in fucking big productions. He's been in $200 million movies. So do you think it's like, because I always wonder about all the dudes and gals who are in Los Angeles? I felt real sleazy. When I just had gals,
all the other gals out there. Yeah.
Well, for the know, the Los Angeles Yeah. All the Australians that are over there. And I just wonder
it'd be really interesting to get rove on the podcast talking about like a dude who went over to the states to try and really carve it out. I'm curious as to what that experience is actually like. Yeah,
I mean, yeah. So you saying thinking big, this the reality of doing well, I think it's thinking big. Like,
I also think that there is a truth around Australia has this sort of feeling that if someone's worked in lunch, I was talking to someone the other day about hiring and they're like, if you've worked in London, in fashion, you can jump up into like, bigger roles in Australia, because Australia, we say, London. Is this like, amazing fashion fashion or New York City? same same reaction where is the reality is like, we're doing cool, like this cool shit happening. And it's also like, location agnostic. You can fucking do amazing video anywhere. And to be honest, Los Angeles. These heaps of people doing it. What I see is like friends, like met Dave, Allah who are building a podcast, he has access
to so many guests, because LA is just a hot hot spot a hot like a location where there's interesting creators out there. It's fucking amazing place. But yes, I think maybe it's just like, whatever you think is big challenge that because maybe for me, I think getting a documentary up on ABC is big. Yeah, but the reality is, if you were to just list what looks big, yeah. Well, that's awkward.
Simon easing is sorry. If you've just joined us
know the Did you try to Did you ever think about moving to align
I mean, see, I always wanted to. And like I mean, fact I went over and shot that little series with fits in my mind sack on that juul one little video series that was just off our own backs. We paid for the trip, got a bunch of freebies, by living I feel
like Was there any ever any intention of actually making la a home it was
I see, this is the thing I then won the trip to go. And you know, being that house I had to explain that one. I entered a competition. It was called hosting immersive, which is this program where you live in a house in the Hollywood Hills, and you train with some of the best coaches over there within that space. And you develop a show real and you speak with agents and you do a pitch to a room full of these people and fucking so I want it I fucking into this thing. And $110,000 competition. Amazing. And so people are paying to go and you they were paying. And I was in a house free and I thought Fuck this. I'm putting my hand up first for everything. Yeah. And I think I was that guy. I because I was like, I assumed the level of confidence because I won. Yeah, I was like, I had that fucking pat on the back. Yeah. And then I went in, and I did it. And I thought to myself, fuck, I want to be in LA. But it didn't go further than that. And maybe that is the biggest, like thinking big isn't just saying, Oh, I'd like to be there one day. And I've got a family now. And I'm super happy. You've where I'm at. But I would happily live in LA now. But I don't know how much that there's a difference between having that thought I'd leave their fucking I really liked the vibe. And you know that whatever. Whatever. To actually going. No, I'm going to live there. Yeah, and I'm going to make it work. And this is what I need to do to make that happen.
I wonder if it would be a harder hustle. Then in Melbourne? I
think it would be and I have the feeling I have the thought that I will be able to create something that will allow me to go there and work and come back. Yeah. Rob, you know, yeah, he's Hollywood films. leaves in fucking Melbourne. Yeah, he's going over in two weeks to shoot a movie coming back has, you know, he's based here. And he talks about getting back over there to leave. But, you know, we can talk about that with on the podcast. But it's, um, it is nice having a home and but I want to be traveling more to do stuff, you know, yeah, go out and shoot. And, you know, and it is, I think it's just those Connect, connecting with people. I really fucking enjoy connecting. I made some great connections when I was in LA do that. Anyway, I want to
I also want to differentiate between connections, networking and community for me like connecting with connected I think that's a theme. So that's the thing I think that there's a maybe I think LA is potentially more transactional. Yeah, because there's a lot of people so it's sort of like, it's almost like the fast moving consumer goods version of relationships where it's like, there's so many of them. So they're all quite sort of small, little interactions and you sort of gauging how much value I can get out of something. Whereas in Melbourne, for me, it feels like this much more longer, beautiful thing, which is like when you're building a community and you're having like longer term relationships that aren't prefaced on what can I get out of you? Yeah,
it's a good thing to pull me up on that because I think when I actually say it, I know exactly what I mean. Yeah, I love creating a connection with somebody I've got a lot of acquaintances Yeah, but I can tell you every one of those that isn't my you know close friend like you You know my wife okay then one of the best minds was that gone couldn't hear
I have to tell you a moment where we've either been out doing something you had to Dina and just had fucking great conversation and made a connection that's more than just having your phone number yeah to get something off or an email address and a statement
yeah but maybe we get the steam room guy on night
He's a fucking charismatic dude who seemed opinion I'll probably get fired from his job he feels odd but I know I honestly thought I would love to have this guy on the podcast and hear about him year his experiences 20 years in TV we had him on maybe we have
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