#038 – You can’t say that anymore/
- March 8, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Thursday March 8 (Ep 38) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett.
Essentialism, email writing , being busy, pity parties and more!
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It's the daily talk show everyone and it's a it's an evening your national Why am I not so easy just you just fact that my fing shy of my code to my microphone sorry he took off the rubber band to extend it obviously but then just lift the code to fly a little around yeah really funny about your things I am It was like you were a child now I was just the only one that mattered out of the three
that another thing just quick bond big many we just shared some chocolate This is real cute but I just watched and I don't usually do this maybe I don't maybe I maybe I do but I just haven't noticed myself doing it you touched every single piece of that chocolate like there was maybe 16 bits you managed to like open up putting it into your hands turn it with your hands and then you like brokered by putting your fingers over all of it three times so you touched every pace i mean i think about that smell Mike my hands a claim
smelly hand washed I to be clear I'd actually washed my hands prior and the reason was sorry I just touched cheese
no I actually watched them with soap before doing it because we were taking one chocolate by out of someone else's like we had a basic like a gift for someone it's like a freebie essentially and I go hungry so I just helped myself to the free gift is fun
and I I washed my hands beforehand because we just had meat sandwich so that's
why he thought I need to wash my hand yeah I
was like I'm gonna wash my hands otherwise they discuss my like may steal though
when you touch someone else
only touching something that you share it's like mints some people get really weird about like how what what level of Jim a phobia you I guess
delight it and I'm not that worried about it but even my
saying it like that I'm not that worried about it. Not that worried about it. You fucking kidding me with my friends. I'm not okay. I don't worry about it. But I definitely noticed it but I have the ability to shut off once I've noticed it then shut off and guy doesn't fucking matter. My main cam is like a real Gemma phobe and he won't he can't he wouldn't be able to handle that. Like if I was trying and drink my cool this is young would you do that? Would you drink something out? You know I
did a segment about this on radio milk. Now. No dairy products after a problem with sharing milk. Yeah,
but I could share a fizzy water with you. Yeah, if you were doing a have anything dairy for whatever reason. It feels like it's like bacteria in juicing. Well it's like a swamp water fowl isn't it? I just feedback from yesterday from Michelle from the UK. I'm Michelle was talking IV apparently.
I mean, I came up with it. The thought around the hair. You can fix that. Yeah, yeah.
Shut the fuck up. Now I've got type here.
Nice. Introducing the new guest host the amazing thing is that this show just gets crafted by the people listening to it. A lot of the top Yeah, we do it a lot with very fucking analytical about this
is it wouldn't sound like it. Yeah. Analytical is probably the wrong word. reflective reflective reflective because we definitely we listen I can't listen at the beginning I said listen to the podcasts and Bray will want to listen to it at night. Yeah I just can't handle like I struggle enough with my the internal voice in my head I don't need to hear me through fucking son us at 11pm when I'm trying to go to sleep yeah it's bedtime material for yourself. Maybe someone else maybe you're listening to this in bed right now? Yeah it could be in bed you might be having like a little hot chocolate What are you in Ireland
the snow outside now Josh I was I was playing into Josh his love of painting pictures I do love on the scenes of where people might be listening Hey
so I've been sort of slowly being told from people today two people told me that they listen to the podcast now which is so good hey I got a message from a dude named Gideon giddy He's a legend and I think we just I think we actually met online
or on a mat anyway we call a catch up with Tori This is really said where are we love this and you've been good enough to keep it a secret like you haven't told me now
because I've been busy today and then it's just come on I have been to and
he said I've got some ideas of where you could go with it was I'd love to catch up for coffee Sure thing so he hasn't told you how do you think it involves may still being involved haha Josh Gideon and Tommy Delhi talk show
I'll give you an answer plug life of giddy underscore anyway. Yeah he's got some cool videos
and other person I went to bodies' daycare yesterday fuck off one of the educators oh we we listened to your podcast they would
have heard the biting
no they didn't need that one I said which one I should have known this episode the squeegee what
Episode Five how much is daycare question mark interesting and I listen back to it to save hours if he said anything well man you love those guys exactly but
I didn't and it was yeah it was it was nuts but they also she also said to me or and we've seen your YouTube channel
and you were saying that they were watching it in daycare the kids with someone else's watching this was another person that was watching you know video she watched which one or
may do no no no. Think back to something that would have them looking at me questionably you strip
when my wife when my girlfriend was it. Bible College. I was talk of the town at daycare,
Daddy day care 2.0 if bodies' doing it runs I know where
I've been listening to an audio book essentialism essentially I think that's what it is what is because you've you listened to staff and you start dropping in the conversation and even Chinese me a little bit doesn't I then start I go through phases of just quoting shoots that I read but you said today you quoted what's the word
essential ism essential is and you said that and so I'm left behind thinking about what what's the description just brief of what essentially is an essential ism it's being an essential list. Yeah. Well I think my understanding would be it's it's probably a little bit of a turn sort of nearby minimalism bill. Essential ism is about do it, like having the things doing the things in life that are essential. So I think that we've created for a lot of people these expectations around what we need to do that we need to say yes to all of these things. And it's about like cutting back is it just a new spin on minimalism probably is actually essentially I've only just started re listening to the audio book because I I think that you probably have noticed this in me in the last month or two in January I was not pushing really for work at all and I was just doing creative shit was doing my YouTube channel and I was just sort of having a bit of sort of my like a mind reset just sort of going easy and then I sort of said to you I'm just going to say yes more stuff you know I'm going on my trip want to save up a Bitcoin and I want to just say like there's something nice about this idea of like sprinting just absolutely fucking yourself before you try on a trip and
like we go in the end of June I feel like I started on this journey beginning of fib and I'm already fucked I'm just like I've said yes to all these things and that's what got me on to essentially them because I'm just like I've got six clients or wanting shit done today and my ability to prioritize and make sure that they're all happy becomes slimmer sprinting analogy, if you keep it consistent with that, sprinters can't continue sprinting yeah
yeah, it's a shorter time Absolutely. I guess we should be looking at I guess business and otherwise is like a marathon 100% but then there's periods of sprint so it's like you go hard but you still grinding after that but it's just no way near to the extreme yeah it's interesting i think it's it's pressure that you work well under pressure Yeah, I'm forced to work right
yeah, I'm gonna look back at this like I look back and the thing is what is happening is I'm enjoying my fucking week it like I haven't had a proper way can only and if you'd like, I sound like such a little complaining little sweat donor. I've literally only worked for like a month hahaha. of live real hard. And I'm fucked. Where. But I'm let the thing that's that it's happening is I'm starting to appreciate ship more. So when normally my weekdays and weekends would just sort of merge, right. It was like the whole like Gary van der Chuck mentality, which is, like, done live for the weekends. Like, you know, it's just like another day, all that sort of shit. Whereas
I'm really like, it feels like I need those weekends just as a reset. And I feel like I empathize more with Bray my girlfriend now because for the longest time, she would get home from work. And I'd be like, wide and not say, oh, let's, let's watch these tutorials are like, you want to get better use social media stuff, let's watch all these things. And she's like, I just want to watch Say Yes to the Dress. And it's because she would be work like really being intense during the day. Whereas I'm sort of, I was always playing this sort of constant. This is like, it's like constant, but not really like maxing out my brain power. I do the same. I constantly
work. But I feel like it constantly work for me. And I have those periods of time where I'm going hard. Yeah. But then I think you actually have no option A lot of the time in the early days of your business to be getting everything done. Like if you it's like a game. But then there's patterns that you guys are like, you could collect all your emails and send it back all in one go. Or if there is an email that comes through, just send a few lines back and get it done. Move on. Because it is it's a game of it's a numbers, game emails, like clients, you have to get through and get it done. But then you you don't want to jeopardize the quality.
Well, what's your What do you think about email etiquette, because I got this off screen magazine that I'm a big fan of that my friend Kai is the editor for they, they do this thing, which is called like just plugging one of these instances. Again, he doesn't need any help is great. Now they have something called off strain dispatch. And I saw in their most recent email, they have this thing called the email charter, the email chat, I've seen a few of these in my in my life, it sounds like fucking old or something. But it's like this website, which gives you an email chatter. So it's like we're drowning in a mouse. And the many hours we spend on it, generating even more work for our friends and colleagues, we can reverse the spiral only by a mutual agreement. Hence, this email charter. And what that basically done is they've put together these 10 rules for an email. So I remember saying something similar. It used to be called, like, 11, words.com,
or some shit or live in what I can't remember the exact URL. But basically, you would put it in your email signature. And when people would click on it would say, Hi, I'm taking part in the 11 words, challenges. I only send emails that are 11 words or less, you know, that probably that I'd spend half the fucking time working and how to communicate what I want to it is hard enough. And I've been anymore characters. And, you know, the funny thing is, there's this quote, which is
going to occur, remember, I'm sure it's a famous person that said it, but it's like, sorry, for the long letter. I didn't have time to write a short one,
which is like, you know, you think about it at some things like that. The time is actually in the refining. You can create, like, a long fucking edit, but to make something good, that's actually a wow, that's like taking the time. You can use that one in mind. So, yeah, all these things, right? Respect. Number one, respect recipients. Time
short, a number two, short or slow is not rude. Three. Celebrate clarity and wonder what they mean by celebrate clarity. That's what I think is dot points.
I love getting stuff. And but how do you celebrate it? Do you say you love thanks for sending that thanks for making these words a while you're actually saying
start with the subject line that's clearly labeled as a topic and maybe includes a status category info action, time sensitive, low priority, use crisp model phrase sentences, if the email has to be longer than five sentences, make sure the first provides the basic reason for writing. Avoid strange fonts and colors. Do you know what's fucking a great tip? Which I really been using? I don't know where I heard it from. But it was like put the answer first
answer, then why not? Why then answer example, if you're saying if we've got to shoot on and I'm asking your availability, I'm like, Hey, man, can you do this shoot on Thursday? What most people will do is I am I've got this thing on that thing on I could make no fact that off and just say no, I'm not available, and then go into the why. Yeah, yeah. Always the answer, then why? And then context.
So you so you don't be filtering through trying to work out
the Da Vinci Code for a long email? Yeah, that's
true. But then you don't want to be a fucking robot. Like the hard thing is, with all this stuff. business relationship building is about being authentic. Yeah. And if it pulls away too far from that authenticity in the communication, it's like, you file I use a exclamation marks smiles a lot. And I yeah,
I think those things are important. I, I try and I try and reduce the amount of exclamation mark like if I'm doing like, hey, Tommy, exclamation mark.
And then like the next one, one, but I have learned how to write by doing a mouse is in like, more than more than I did at school, I learned how to craft sentences and use the right grammar and punctuation marks and so crazy
yeah, it's so important and I think
yeah, it's it's one of those areas where if you do it right, you can be really powerful as a communicator and it's I think one of my few strengths is a mouse like I can send like a I feel like when I'm working with friends on things they're always like hey can you craft this thing or that thing he was telling me about the fact and you don't have any more the email thing so it tells you the notification if that yeah actually that was making me realize how much I'm how glad I am that I don't have that anymore what said was it I had it was called mix Max and there's a few other services that would do the same it will give me a notification anytime someone open my emails
and I thought that I was like sorry but it also gives you like notifications of whether someone has clicked your social media the little icon
and we're ideally you uh. You went through a button click tomorrow so I mean I drove to use
I had I and I just press control and went click click click click
click it was a very low level trial you been sent an email to you so you got like no I didn't get an email it's almost like a feed it's like imagine like the ticker on the news ticker on the side of Facebook says so and so like it's literally like that but the thing that it will do is I'll get notifications when someone was opening an email so not only that but I'll get notification I would get told what location they're into so I'd be able to see our this clients actually opening it from overseas or
the other thing that it was the example you gave that probably happened once
know it happened a bit now I remember like the thing that it was handy fall and this is why I probably stopped using it because I got to reactive yeah because I was literally like I'd be looking at my email and then I would see someone like open up a quote again and then I'd be like a fact I should follow up that was like two weeks ago and they never wrote back so I'd like write to them and they would send me an email and they'd be like oh I'm
sorry I can't look at Notre he did the exact same you so my I like
to you looking at
yeah he's just gonna fucking notification Come on the yes so I am this is what happens now you
a quote opened a new email
right back yeah and the thing is that like our Josh will literally just thinking about this and they just think they were like really connected little
that I'm fucking tracking their every move. So it was a little bit I felt a bit weird. And so initially, I was like real pro this remember I was like because you could do things you could use the service to be able to book
calendar stuff. So I could say Hey, man, these are the times I'm available. And you can click one at one booking into my car, which was cool. But the thing that I think it's just a dangerous path trying to track shit Insta stories. What do
you say? Ah, what I said yesterday. What do you say? Yeah, you
said that because I used to be a big one. I feel like I've readjusted
explanation from the outside. Josh is very on two things. For instance, if I was an engineer Michael, but looked at ease into the story. He's the kind of guy that was looking through his Insta stories and saying who was watching them? Like so he's the opposite. Do you look through your Instagram? Like activity? So what other people are liking? Yeah, yeah. I couldn't tell you the last time I did that. I I
don't. It depends what sort of mood I'm in. Yeah, no, I don't do it. Like during this. This is the funny thing. That's why I'm realizing this business that I'm feeling this all of these habits that I formed through, like being quiet, idle like idleness create, you can get into these little head facts where you start focusing on shit that just doesn't matter. And that has actually gone I'm spending way less time like I'm not even looking at Instagram as much like Simon I feel like in the last month or so the reality is successful people don't have the time that because they're working on the shit that they creating. Absolutely, I did that like consuming sort of mindset can really sort of fact, let's move away from that stuff. And I just quickly say, God, I did. So the just to
clear the loose. close the loop. Thank you. close the loop segment
with the Insta story. I actually posted the Insta story this morning. And so my mic jack liked it a cold him so I might. You answered straight away because I knew his and he's fine. I was like, thanks for the thanks for the view.
Shy is fucking grind. He's like Oh yeah. It's like he laughed. He thought was funny it but then I said I'm I said. Now you're gonna say on your Insta story that I viewed your first one. But then I dropped off. Don't think so. I think it's I don't like the content I just made on a fix those chairs. And I you know, I see. Yeah,
it was because I had bad phone reception where I was thinking that Yeah,
fuck, man. I don't look into anything. But maybe. And so what I said to you, actually, today, yesterday, you scare me into being more conscious about it. Yeah. Because of the because me knowing someone like for me. It's like, I'm the only one exists. You know, you're in your own world. You really think that that's how most people are. I remember all the time. But then I see you and you like, I'm a fact that he's the opposite. So I'll go to lift my game. I remember
client like I was doing personal start, like doing personal social media posts. And I told a client A while ago that I couldn't finish their thing, or whatever it was. And they had me on social media. And they actually said, or if you've got time to be doing this take, they wrote it on the post, or no, no, no, no, they fucking email me. They pick me up on it. So it's like, how can like and that's what, like these podcasts? I've made a priority. I've done this. We've done this every fucking day. haven't missed it. Everyone celebrates 30? I yeah. Episode 30. I think we even said the day or day
piece me off messiness. Yeah,
but the I couldn't believe it. I felt like it just felt gross. I might be if I can get like, let me prioritize my own shit. Yeah. Yeah.
But tell you a great like, I feel like I'm like, What is the protocol would you get if I can. I can understand how someone could get annoyed if I'd say to you like it. When fuckers say I'm too busy for shit. And then you just see them on Instagram team being dumb Fox, you get annoyed. It's if it
was out sort of business hours, I would have that filter and just be like, pisses me off, but it's fucking five minutes after 5pm. 6pm. It's like people have lives. Yeah. And I think you have a busy life in terms of outside of my own shit at work. And everyone else. It's like most people have that right. You got your stuff doing dinner with Bray or Gandhi moms or whatever? Yeah. I'm looking after Bodie. You know, and that family,
I think changes it right. Like, I've noticed that I had one client that
she was like, Look, I've got 266 kids at the moment. We're not going to be able to get this feedback. Like, really respected it sort of, like, you know what, like, I should be prioritizing like that too. And I think what I struggle with is, it's the justification so having a kid like, it's almost like it's sort of a mic drop. It's like my like, I because you respect it straightaway. Yeah, but me being a fucking 20 something EDS pain. Like guys, I can't. I'm not going to be able to get this work done. Because I'm trying to hang out with me, girlfriend. It's a bit of a harder sell the I had a mother who had double parked
and she come up. She
came up to the office where I am gone. picked up some tickets from my mates. Office. What were they? What are they do ticket printing, of course, unity.com
today. You your first plug. Yeah,
plug. My man
James. James works. That doesn't. He is the boss. Yeah. James. Yeah.
Anyway, I heard the mother devil and then this woman who she double parked over the driveway of and she wanted to get a car in. Hey came stormed up. This car is though like she was.
Oh, God. Remember? What's that movie Matilda? It's a really bad movie reference. Yeah. David, that if you've watched it as like, the headmaster was I this woman is really grumpy and mean. Anyway, it was like her. And she was she had a painter who carries it. Anyway, this woman to a she came and said, I'm so sorry. You know, I'm a mother. And I just had to, but she used the mother thing. And I thought back and did a word. I mean, this woman was fired up. Yeah.
And I think she was just reactive. Saying that I'm a mother is like this go to thing meaning. I've got a lot on I just need to fucking do this. Please. I've, I remember. I've had moments where it's like you want to set like, there's obvious these obvious things that would where people have no empathy for what other people are going through. But then, you know, when you have moments where it's like, you have no excuse, but if they're like, just think if I had an excuse, like, I think to myself, What if I had cancer right now? You know, like, that's sort of where it's like it obviously sorry, fucking dumb because I'm fine. I know. Maybe someone close to me died. And they like they have an Iron Man. Like you weren't
as fucking stumped them with. Some are
actually got nothing. It's like, yeah, my, my pod died. I'd have to say that it was six years ago.
I remember. I feel like maybe this is a bit of an emotional maturity thing. I remember being a kid and like people, you know, relatives or stuff like that and dying this a little bit doc. And I remember thinking like, God, this sort of it gave me a bit of leeway of like Bay like just like not being late to class.
I get it. I know you did you ever do things like go real deep? Do you think that you've ever had those moments where it's like, you know what? It's almost like a bit of a pity parties and say like, Oh, you know what? I I'm trying to get this fly. mosey
Yeah. Like what? Give me your example. I have hundred percent use the pity party. Yeah, but I can't remember a specific example. But I feel like it's easy to dwell in. Right? Yeah, you just sort of basking it's almost like creates this energy around and it allows you to fuck up Yeah, like if you think about like I've done it I've done it with film shoots where I feel like fuck I hope something comes up that I have to cancel Yeah, and it's such a bad mindset because it's made just being weak yeah in my head and I haven't just bitten the bullet and done what I need to do and I hundred percent of thought please finally party gets guess
I haven't thought that I stay away from thinking anything of course you want it to be she's a fucking evil Knievel I'm not able to be clear
now it's a bit it's you need to really go inside to think about that because I think there's probably a lot of people that have had those moments but I
just quickly before we wrap up I do remember story where there was a guy with something happened to him a few years ago and HR sort of supported him through it they didn't really was sort of a big big deal all that sort of thing Hey, do you want it to go public and
then he sort of had a moment you know, four years later where it's like actually I want to tell everyone now and all sort of thing so really wait position because I think from an HR point of view if you're gonna do something like that you sort of need to you're always playing in this pity party for whatever you want to call it like this emotional sort of situation for years and years and years and that can almost I don't know it's um I know where I'm going with it I was sorry
I was initially yeah the data
I had some stuff I wanted to talk about what time is it how much
we've got mine Venus got one minute if I've really gone on a lot of heaven I should we try one minute of real high energy now this story that it wasn't high energy it just something that pissed me off go Tommy loses a oh you know makes me really matter
all right now what we're going to finish with is a story that we got sent from Josh his childhood from another person at his school so yesterday I reckon was fake sure someone who just made up something and we've got another one which was bizarre like how how we ain't cool the same time is someone who right through our podcast telling us story it was true but had some details that
had some stuff which was like the fighting that I'm fighting thing which you did after after the show which is fucking brilliant but what's the email guy
who was a co directing that last one was from like, no
idea I can actually tell if that was a real person's name that I knew or not because obviously there was a lot of like will international sort of school kids from everywhere so you could have a real fucking weird name and I'm going to give this Gil a shout out because she hasn't said to not put on a guy Jody Scanlon Okay, God I know, God, God, thanks for listening. Very quick story. It's a very quick story with you story. Remember that three sec, on the radio station that okay, the radio station that my mom yelled at the manager because he he to me remember that on one of the episodes find us. Jodi's brother, had his own show, on three se, I remember, he did a segment within his radio show, where he interviewed the cast of the Gleneagles production and I remember I was on the side of the shed where the performance was and he had his microphone and he was talking to me, and I couldn't I wasn't smart enough to connect with her like he's going live, right? It was it was just like, recording on to like a sarnie type record. Yeah, but it was just that we'd moment where it's like, you're breathing goes a bit funny. And you're like, Okay, I'm about to go on is okay, we're gonna go at three, two. And he goes into it. I just like I love it so much. So anyway, that was God brother. I feel I
was notice short story. I'm sorry. God was
in a lot of drama stuff. Cool.
I experienced a lot of those people. When I was living Chevron doing radio and they legit thought I had my phone out. I was gonna go live. I was holding my phone recorder up. And I do the same thing. It's interesting that I finally met someone become friends with them that do that. Anyway, God, thanks God for writing him. God said hi guys been listening to your podcast on my commute to work. And recently after seeing Josh's post about it on Instagram thought I'll give you a shot authority. Give it a shot something different and the train rides more. Are
you ready to read again? anyway? This good
anyway, so she just
Joshua's in the below me at high school correct I had a lot of mutual friends with these brother Jake yeah subject it's been interesting to hear and relate to Josh has stories about certain teachers people in the endeavor hills area where I also grew up
she Krispy Kreme shout out there. Episode 40 narrower and narrower. And as I say, all right,
pay Mr. Don
about the tree. The trays in Sri Lanka and you'd spend the whole science class speaking so passionately about the and we didn't have didn't end up having to do any work. He was so like, I don't think he was ever my teacher was always extracurricular stuff. I feel like last time I said he was Indian. So I'm glad that there was I'm guessing the Sri Lankan.
It goes on anyway, one thing that I can thank Josh for is whenever I hear the song apologize by Timberlands too late. Yeah,
honor where she's going with this. Go on. I always think of the covered Josh deed cold This is controversial to wear a tie I then proceeded to have Josh's version stuck in my head which is actually a bit politically incorrect these days.
Okay, so you put a caveat around the story I had I had a I had a YouTube channel back in 2005, 2006
and it would make videos and you know how we're talking about the other day where you would say words you'd say things or you describe people as stuff and you just never would fucking do it nowadays, right? And one of them was just the use of the word guy you know this guy that guy are you being guy
as it as a kid you never really connected it. Yeah. weren't even it wasn't even about someone who is homosexual. Yeah,
it was like and that's the thing with kids, right? They they're sponges and they hear people using these terms and I go and repeat them and so anyway I created a song which was had a music video and it's on a private YouTube channel I took it down because I just thought it was it had over two and a half thousand views by change the words it's too late to apologize to its to guy to wear a tie and so it's got my so the words go and stand in my room thinking what to wear a gap my shirt got my time and the VIN straight my head
the old true You want me to get dressed up and I thought that I was done but wait Yes. something was missing in high was about to find out. My mom said Josh. Once you wearing a time kids. It's too gay. To where
so bad. Come
on. Josh. Now ties are gay. What about this one? Yeah, that one's
fucking offensive. I want to say this video. Yeah, I got it somewhere. I don't like yeah, I don't want to put it up. I'll show it to you. But yeah, so Jody, that is correct and now fact Isn't it funny that when you these things that you make get really cemented into your head the fact that I can remember it is probably because if you realized it wasn't that kosher
like she says why why I get George's cover stuck in my head I couldn't tell you but it's bloody annoying same thing Same thing happens these days when my boyfriend and I are heading to an event and he asked me Do you think I should wear a tie
and I have to stop myself from responding with Now it's
time it's a real
real cut through the thing was that within YouTube your first of all let's just caveat you cannot use the word guy Do you know what I had a maid couldn't fucking believe it he lives in the suburbs yeah so maybe this path he did a post with humanity's best made him his arm around him and this guy's a nicest guy
and he's hashtag was no home or do you know where that comes from? It's okay college saying or like it
you from the States but you can't be can't say no hormones because that's what it's saying is
that there's something like I just think he can't fucking legit heaps of people. So I know I remember signing
amazing how quickly it is turned like it's quickly changed. Well, we can we keep going. Yeah.
I just wanted to this you actually leads into
something I want to talk about. Chris Lee Lee. Yeah. So Chris Lee Lee, how to explain is a Australian comedian that's created some like iconic shows within Australia in comedy. It like I remember when I was in London in 2011 was. He is a satiric satirists. Yeah, he's not, he's just like, he's a, he's a fact social back and commentating over. Yeah, but he also does a lot of impersonations. And did we could be later arches. And, and, and, you know, sort of, it'd be like, if people impersonating Bogan it has a lot of that
real character acting. Anyway, when I was in London, he there was a bus that when passed, and he was on it, and it was some hot tie or a cool and I was like, Fuck, man. That's amazing. It's over here. And, you know, feels big in London. And sorry, reliable as like as a kid being in a like a poverty school which had all of the character every single character you like, you could pick them out in the scope. So I think that's what comedians do. Right? Yeah, they highlight to a huge degree. These characters are relational. Yeah, whether they you know, making it at 60% more Yeah, you know, that's another thing anyway, beat magazine Do you know beat magazine? Yeah, I've heard of it.
They just like a Facebook page. Now I'm pretty sure I don't know if they do the magazine anymore. Probably no money in the magazine. It's sad isn't it? What is this a Facebook page I used to look at bait magazine as a kid I got in there from going to clubs and you get a photo then it'd been bait magazine I was more of a Tyson Kidd
the Chris Lily This is a post they put up they put up a post that was a link off to their website was an article and it was called why we don't need another Chris Lily TV show and the status was decrease Lily stop just stop you're sincerely all of Australia it's hipster fact back in peace me off the all of Australia bit yeah
i was like no fucking speak for me yeah
I like Chris Lily yeah regardless of looking into what has been said around
this old like I feel like this is a real like hips to fuck sort of thing where they like people love shit like throwing shit at thing hundred percent and so like Chris Lee Lee has done some characters where he's had black face on essentially
sounds bad but but that's
how they find you right and that's how the media and I don't want to look into in this discussion with you and I about where
you're right I'm fucking not a racist
I grabbed your very quick International Women's Day everyone has
a fucking telling a story you are sorry I so Chris So my point is not looking into the the whether it's racist or not the point is these are so captain and I am I'm at the office yeah we're talking about lights which is we're talking about whether or not these news outlets yeah write that article and put that headline there because they know like maybe the person who wrote it didn't it doesn't actually have the view that they fit don't think Chris Lisa have another shot rush off but they know that that status yeah and I can read you some of the comments let me just read you one think on your own beat magazine not a good thing to take a swipe at people with talent maybe target Robbie shows like Google box I'm like wait on a celebrity I love Google Books by the way this guy is a fuck with two and married at first sight and so
I think he is did that does does bait magazine know that this is just like fully triggering for people and they don't give a shit and they just know it will get likes it will get comments also taking shit out of context right like cultural context would Chris Lily do some a high tie in 2018 no yeah no sorry yeah wouldn't look the same right so I think that's even like listening to an interview with Andrew Denton fucking a guy that I respect and that has you know I think has a really good gauge on things and he was talking about the first radio stone to you ever did where I went up to women in guy said that he would give them cash if they could take their Brower off so in Yeah, in Tony hi day. And so that's Andrew Denton, the guy from enough rope someone who is extremely respected Yeah,
so I think so. I did think on the way this morning because I wanted to bring this up today and I was like I heard something Jordan Peterson said who's a psychologist? Yeah he said joke it's like the the card the Joker yeah in the deck of card yeah it's like the Joker character over the years like sorry hundreds of years ago that that Joker character was you know the person that would come in and disrupt and and make the noise and point the finger and prod people and get them fucking round up. Right? Yeah. And he and he relates comedians in today's age as the Joker archetypes if that's the word that's the right way. And it's so true because you go you look at Chris Lily, he did a show where he painted itself black and whether he does it now, you know, does it moving forward? It's like these people may be the ones that fucking create this
I guess hype or this fucking hyper awareness around these topics. Right? Yeah, that essentially the the ones who create the change not saying he went into it like that, but these people are the ones that are pushing the fucking buttons of people to get them thinking and then having conversations around this stuff.
But also think about shows like a like films like wag boy or a fat pizza. It's like there's so many examples where you probably you probably looked at questionable in a questionable lot now But
yeah, I don't I like it. There's also it's very difficult I don't feel like I'm in a good place to be able to understand not that much offends me. And so I think that dark humor is really fucking fun like what I love I'm chairman but it was cold Scott line in the title was like a film dot comedy that sort me probably like six years ago, seven years ago, where it's about these terrorists. And they can't fact that they're just like, they're trying to, like, blow up. I saw you told me that they really struggling they just keep fucking up the logistics. It's just so funny. But, um, now, I think
Yeah, I don't know. I feel like I don't want to engage with a lot of stuff.
Well, it depends on what you're engaging with rod. It's like, that's why I don't want to look into whether he's a racist or not, or whether he's like you. I think you hit the nail on the head. would he do that show in 2018? Probably not. He probably go, I'm not gonna do that.
It's also a little bit like, we need to look at these media outlets and say, Okay, well, why they why they doing this stuff? What's the end goal? By mean, the end goal is actually clicks to website because they need to make money. Yeah. And need add Rev. And the thing they said that and who's paying for that ad rove to, right? It's all like
a big cover. It's, we all contribute to it, right? Yeah, we're, we're helping companies create the content that are on these platforms. It's essentially so I mean, it's everywhere, and we're clicking on to it. Everyone's clicking on to this stuff. It's like, we are feeding the beast and I worry about comedians. like not being able to,
you know, point out things. Yeah, in a in a way of expression and
stuff like that. But, you know, the funny thing is that I think I used to maybe the thing I liked in comedy, or what I used to, like, I would love like comedians who just slam into people. Yeah, I think that I feel like that's changed over the years, maybe I think that like the style like clever shit that doesn't do that i comedy is really powerful when you can do it without having to
purposefully a fan. I think it's like a bit bit of a stretch, but like motivational speakers that resonate with you at a certain time. Your life. Yeah, and it's like everyone, they're all saying the same thing. But it's the person the way they're delivering their message, the message that reason, I think it's like you've grown up. And so your, your comedy, you know, that you're digesting is a lot different now, because of your intelligence or your life experience. You know,
I think that if we tie it back into, you know, International Women's Day and things like that. It's like, if you want to me when I cut you off today that I can let me tell my story. That's fair, that's fair. You know,
you watch movies, and you watch some of the sheet that
that we've allowed in cinema in regards to how we're going to trade it. It's pretty fucking pole night, bad neighbors. You don't watch movies. Bad neighbors. One, Seth Rogen. Yeah. Zac Efron Zac Efron. Like a jock it a fucking I think, sounds bad. Like this has it? Yeah.
It's and I saw Seth Rogen having sex and I remember thinking that's what I would look like
her renders is just
like the real straight line student living next door in this house. And that can have these nightmare neighbors. Anyway, bad name is to is Zac Efron is is now like an older guy who's like struggling to find his way after college, and all these might see growing up and then he starts helping this these women who want to create, like a CSR as a sorority. I think it's cold sorority. Yeah, it's basically like the guy the guys version of duo version to go version of the of that guy party house anyway, and they're next to Seth Rogen again, so he helps him but then in one of the scenes, they're like, you know, back in my day, we had pimps and hoes parties and the girls are like, That's fucking That's disgusting. That's totally unacceptable and in the moment like it's really funny Zac Efron like has this moment where he realizes how unacceptable it was to have a pimps and hoes party but it was such a funny moment that I was like so fucking true yeah you cannot have a pimps and a hot like a hose prostitutes party yeah because all the girls dress up like that and the guy like it's fucking gross yeah it's pretty crazy
it's about what you would have gone like a few years but that's the only parties you were a few pending on now actually didn't have a lot
so I can jump in any parties
know it's interesting times are changing and it's it's it's positive yeah I think it's all
you know moving towards you know and and i think that some of these ridiculous things where they go a little bit too far sort of Q a little bit but the the longer the longer strategy around giving people a fair you're making them feel comfortable
in their own fucking world I think I can't relate to feeling that way and it's not until it's been articulated where I'm like
man that would be tough so that's
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but once we were all in China,
what does that way International Women's Day. My wife is the best. My girlfriend's the back to
back off Josh Ma. You know
what the losses know the the respectful thing to do is to find naked to the death
which which partners the best and I'll start by saying I can. Okay. Your weed. Sorry. Listen to this already. We didn't know I just wanted to make it clear that the fight was between you and I.
I feel like halfway through. It didn't sound clear. So sad. It really misogynistic. So then my wife said then I tried to make up for a bus. I'm describing that I was like
really? Why we can't do this shit. All right. Bye guys. Bye. Bye. Bye.