#060 – Taking notes/

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The Daily talk show everyone, it's Episode 60. Now I

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just remember that moment it was 60. Congratulations, Josh.

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No congratulations to you

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know, fuck you. Congratulations to you know, go fuck yourself.

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I'm congratulating you. And you're not going to take this moment away from a

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for anyone who's new to the bulk of us we don't do these every episode we do just every

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every every time

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it feels like yesterday we're in shepherd and I just dropped the video for the 50th episode celebration on my YouTube channel any feedback from anyone? Probably not. Well we went to ship it in and in the video you saw that you say What did you say like well people might want to know what you're doing back here and chaplain is because we're the new Breakfast Show or something like that Yes And I actually think people thought we we are the new Breakfast Show I was

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actually watching you so be Mac who was on that episode yeah did a biggie not as in drugs but is in on social media and said introducing a new fuckin Breakfast Show and I thought how funny but then I watched our video I'm like yeah if people don't fact and click through for one other thing he linked the video link to the video first mistake a man if I can issue I think he knew he knew he knew what he was doing is a hot man hi Ben hi online and then the other thing to what I had to people add me

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on Facebook is to from chef bit

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know than I re watch the video I'm like we actually don't say that way judging

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table like watch till the end and the like you know why we're really here where the new The Breakfast Show yeah I've noticed a joke like Didn't we talked to the end about you know it's good that we're up here doing the podcast we got a podcast I think the for the fact is we're doing a podcast but not on right yeah

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i was i was thinking

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Am I wouldn't it be fun if maybe we did a wake up there on on radio

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on radio where we said you know and we'll fill it with celebrity guests and stuff will use all of our fucking contacts and do like my we could pre record interviews but really pump it up to the best fucking week possible but the problem is

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when you're in radio and you're in a town like Chevron and you have a replacement that comes in for a week and he's good it like that first of all, you'd be shooting yourself that you jobs gone yeah and second of all is too much ego yeah the industry versus people so you're you're worried about us potentially paying too good that we have to get very

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lucky to have been chosen now thanks for listening if you've been with us all the way Sean he's one of our avid listeners yeah bro

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sent an email 12:30pm He must have been on these lunch break

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or is a boss entrepreneur that has his own runs his own ship

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alone is making lunch yeah I'm sure you wouldn't be very very much think lunch break like I'm just fucking eating or doing I never see it as like I'm stuck right now for lunch right i think it's it's good we can talk about structure later but just wanted to read his email it's he sends it to hide the daily talk show.com which is the best way to contact us he says hi guys heard Episode Number 58 and completely agree with everything Captain vegans that a hypocrites Do you remember that but I can't remember actually calling but I'm sure we did

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keyboard warriors that don't bring much value factor nice show on

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Facebook friends in quotation marks that show show up out of nowhere with hate comments that's a big one yeah well you don't even know that you're still friends with him and all of a sudden some Joe Blow pipes up to give his two cents on some status he just a bit of a contract he said everyone just needs to keep focusing on sharing them positive vibes looking forward to episode number 60 Keep up the great work guys regards Shawn Fanning Spanish on appreciate it. And if you if you send an email we love getting them and yeah we Michelle, our number one a Myla always good quality content. She actually went to the effort of really sort of painted the picture of her when she listens and stuff like that, which was good, fun as well.

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I did. I had a discussion with a vegetarian, okay, I say there's a phase. Well, Sean just made me realize this. And I realized that I'm not in there. I don't even I can't even comprehend this sort of the world. And being that full blown vegetarian. It's got nothing to do with animal cruelty. What I was talking about was the things like faking and restaurants you go to where it's literally you can eat chicken, bacon, beef, fish, but it's all not sure. Fish, beef, chicken, or bagging. They just fly. But so it was quite nice. This one place. I actually we mistakenly went there because it was it was like a Chinese restaurant or something like that Thai restaurant in New Town in Sydney, very hipster joined and I was after all this beef chicken. We got it. And it was all just like tofu. But tasted like it. And my thought. And my conversation with this vegetarian was I was like, Why? Why do you? Why

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what? What is the interest in wanting to eat things that replicate the thing? You don't want to wait? Well, I'm just I think the point is that they're not denying that it isn't tasty. Yeah,

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but they have higher morals and ethics. And they say, even though this might be tasty, I don't want to eat it because of the impact on the world pitch. Not chicken. It's not beef. It's not like, I just don't get that. That is like there is options. Pumpkin

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potato sounds good.

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veggie patties. That it's just not they're not they're not related to the thing like plants. Delicious. So I mean, you got to eat something, right? I guess. But

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no, I completely know what you mean. Because I was just talking to someone the other day about I quit sugar. Sarah Wilson. You know, Sarah Wilson. That was her book and everything like that. She's closing it down. Just should not passing it on to anyone. She just closing the whole business and

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it's now I quit stevia. I quit.

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No. But she if you go into if you type in, like I quit sugar into Pinterest, all of their recipes as shit that should have sugar in them. your domain just like we're gonna spend all of our time making this is as real to normal life is. For instance, the thing that upset me the most was I made chocolate mousse. Can you imagine what the core ingredient was? I can't avocado. Yeah. Yeah, it was avocado. I put like an avocado. Fucking cow powder. Maybe a bit of

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cafe? Yeah, there's

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some sort of Syrah of Esther and it was horrendous.

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It's like someone fucked up

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like I've never eaten a fully fact avocado. Like as in like, right? Yeah, it was like it was like what's the point like what's what is this trying to do to me? This is nothing and so probably the main type stuff the fake meat i'd feel the same way I don't like what's the soy one in the squares and ship what's that called? tofu that's what most of them are in the end like a lot of them girls soy products and shit yeah, so

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this in net fleek stock at the moment.

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I can't remember the name because my fucking brother I said what's the name is Ali don't fucking know Matt it's on Netflix. Have you watched it yet? He watched it okay but he really got into me about not knowing the name in really didn't take over that

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was like one of the cow spirit see type

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at know it's about a company that is creating major that's not made in a lab. Well, it's not the so it's not the grown it's not the legit okay. animal tissue. OR LEGIT legit tissue grown in the lab. It's a company that is using the there's like a is a taste that meat has and they've been able to work out that it's a certain something it's like this It's cold. Tell me here that you gave it a name so they can replicate that taste. Yeah, well, I should have the name of it. Yeah, but anyway, you saying he showed me the it bleeds. It's made from plant based products and it looks like meet you cook it and it's like losing out but it will be change the game if they get it right. Let's spend a lot of money on it so far. I went to Taco Bell in the US in the US Yeah.

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real fucking cheap mine tacos and

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to get like, it's

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Yeah. My man is on is on to a pit. I was like what sort of Mater's this and they do the Dorito taco shell that he says i thereto chips flavored

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mentioned how many fucking chemical during that

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it just was so disgusting. I had this like it was like a means mate. But it was soy products but they sell it as like it's a mate sort of thing it's fact it's like

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a taco I did say that I said the vegetarian I was talking to that if you can give me a substitute for made that tastes like it like this company's doing Why would I Why would I choose me like if I was yeah why would you go down the unethical Yes,

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there was another option.

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I really like it. Because if they can do it, there'll be I'm not even that hell bent on me. No, me either. That's what I'm saying. I would not going to take much to sway me to fucking

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literally just like if I had if I had a cook. Find someone who's like, you know what? We're going to give you a cook for the rest of your life. The only deal is has to be vegetarian dishes fucking Oh, I'll do it. I mean, it's a big ask. I don't know if anyone's going to do that for you. For me specifically, but like fuck the beloved eggplant back in calories and shit. Or eggplant curry is so fucking good. That even

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retired That was really good. vegetarian. Mexican. Awesome. Maybe not your bullshit. Well I chose nachos. Fucking awesome.

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Sweet potato. Taco Fonda yeah yummy yummy. So three other things that you'd like that a vegetarian

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lollies

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cake they're not vegan no because I've got the

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chocolate

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yeah this is a few days I mean yeah there's a lot of meals but leave there is nothing wrong I'm sure that we're eventually get to a point where we are all going vegetarian

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yeah

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not not not not not I think these two I'm not one of them but there's definitely people who are like Nat

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Nadia Falcon made in need it I don't I don't give up you know what I actually bringing I bought two pieces of mail from mate Smith on some really nice

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just know prices now just like Porter Porter house yet yes to point out

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is bought a house I reckon now we're like in total 26 at 31 fact I hate places that don't have prices on things yeah so you're forced to take it to the front or you're forced to speak and say I'll have that one and you don't want to be tied ask me how much you can that will be

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yeah I almost one of the pushback and gag actually can have another for more this is like this do you do finance options as well

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what's the new pay pay as you go like exactly

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Wi Fi the

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yeah so we did that and but I don't know what I'm gonna help with that and you you have a when I told you that I told my wife Amy and then you guys came in that I'd thrown away some letters that I saw was cleaning out my office and I throw away some letters that she'd written me one was for Easter one was just for no reason not no sorry east as in just old it was an old one of the East is over the last couple years I'm sure and birthday maybe a Christmas one that was a really lovely letter from my brother from to say thanks for being a groomsmen and he's waiting I read it headed nearly teed up and then throw them out but I but I felt like a big gross trying it out like I felt like I was partying with something as well I don't want to but I don't need that them around. You know, I was like this is hard for me. This is right move. And then I tell me and then you're there and then it just erupted and I was the fucking I was the Gremlin. Yeah it was the Green Goblin. It's just killed somebody Well, you're a little bit you're a little bit tipsy. So you're tipsy Tommy get me man get a bit funny bit like

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what do you guys see? Like you should have probably just shut your mouth in the moment because yeah, you and Amy had worked out by

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brain I was checking out your new installment like you know you got a fucking cool little new setup in your office here sort of has a partition so all behind it but you actually brought us in you could affect in been fine. But you're like guys, I'm he's getting upset. What do you think? Yeah, I

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have to because I thought you were gonna back me up as the minimalist fucking Wang care over here. But I'm a minimalist blanket that has Evernote you can it's so easy. I did think about taking a photo of these. But then I thought I haven't got photos of all the other ones that I've thrown at. Anyway. My point bad theory though. What like I have like four to start somewhere. Okay, I could stop now. And I probably will stand out. But I got home yesterday. And I opened up my text messages. some reason I wasn't even fucking thing I swapped across and deleted me in my message history on my phone. And I can't fucking get it back. Because the last time I backed up my phone was like, two, three months ago,

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if I can resort to previous backup to get them. And then I accidentally changed the locks to the house. I mean,

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I've, I've accidentally moved in not told her. So Amy, this is

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a long, roundabout way of having this sort of understanding of why most people aren't minimalists. Because it shows it's so embedded in all of us to want to. So like, for instance, you guys have your own thoughts around what I did, or throwing out letters. Amy has her thing and so it's like external so it's it's internal for everyone else about my internal or my my reality here. Yeah, so I found it hard to throw out these things. But then it makes it twice as hard when other people get like opposing to what you were feeling well, there's that there's the saying that Josh from the minimalist says which is your best to tell about yourself

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wouldn't put it past me

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your memories aren't in your things yet which can extend to this. I think there's something nice as documentarians and people who create content for a living I think that there is we do have a responsibility in some regards to save some of these things for content. For instance, I was watching a video we spoke about last week, one of my videos has gone hashtag semi viral bat hit 9000 views for either 249 like six dislikes. but who's counting? Can you tell me how many times you've checked it and have it open in a tab maybe once every two hours. It's a lot once every two hours. Anyway, the

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the guy who made a digital minimalist video which went viral, which made my video go semi semi viral, because it was mine was a suggested videos that came out around he's right. Hey, deletes all of his raw material as a YouTuber till it totally is raw material till he project files he only capes he uploads a version to YouTube and then if he needs it he'll just download it from your shows you what a fucking animals they'll give me anxiety.

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That's so fucking damn now you can use like, I think

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hard drives us so cheap. It's just like to me it's going in fracking. just dumb territory. Because it's like my how much how he's shooting on a fucking 87 s right. He's whole if he was filming, like, hates all year would be less than eight terabytes, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's one fucking external drive What happened? Like, what happens when like, it just makes no sense to me. It doesn't take any fucking like be I think it's a minimalist. What it means is, we can just be structured just be structured in the sense of have the files in a specific folder structure. So you were know where things are. And you don't need to be fucking keeping. I don't know. Yeah, and you keep the props for a shoot. You don't even need to maybe, you know, keep the notes but just make like, it makes no sense. But I said I go to my mom's house. Sup man. I know she listens. Right?

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She has a lot of stuff from my childhood and it's just in the fucking happens and this stuff up in the garage. What's happening with that? Where's that going? That's physical objects stuff from her childhood plates in like, four I think this place is a few months right. We don't have housing big enough to store generational item collections. I mean, I'm not talking about some amazing sort of like gold plated it's like nine dumb shit. Well, damn sure to me. There might be not as they probably know, mom loves them loves what she's kV. But

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the I actually had, like, my parents had a bit of a hand over of all of my old shit. So I've, I've got in my position now. So

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that must be match because you've got a smallish apartment. It's all in our basement. And you you love storage, so Joke's on them, because you're going away. And it's going to have to go well, I

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don't know what. I'll do it. Maybe I'll see hannity and so school report. So that'd be pretty funny. Or like a

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Whoa, yeah,

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maybe what I like. I think there's something in digitizing stuff, right? Because the thing is, it's like, it's the words on the paper, which is fun. And if you scan it in, you have the whole thing. The reason that I've even been thinking about this lately, I've started I've been raving about the

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the note taking and stuff, right? He's like, I love you. You want to lie? You? You're one day into taking notes and you've been raving about and he's right. He actually has mentioned it maybe three or four times I even went to I went to Office works, you know? Everything's good starts at office words spent 60 bucks. On

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on was Lopez notepads. But cheap notepads. Yeah. But $60 worth using cheap notepads for 60 bucks. That means you you've got hundreds of notepad no cuz we got cheap notepads. Pens the the expensive bit was the

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index cards, you know, the index cards that you say unlike the Agile Scrum those

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can ban or whatever the fuck it's called, the boards, you know, like in Bartow and stuff they've got all those oh we I bought a bunch of them and they're not cheap those $27 anyway that is nearly 50% New York and $30 and then everyone in some stationery too but I said to her as long as you're using it for personal not for a tiger if you want to be fucking using like that's a company expense he definitely don't

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put on for working big businesses I've got so much stationary in a car but

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there is there a startup so they have less so but the funny thing was Bree said that one thing she doesn't like about office works the con side of office works as take she was doing a bit of a calm the other day and she

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should realized all of these

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she had like a mini stapler and all these like mini things and should excellent got posted notes that were like small and then

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one one later, someone at work with like, bright Can you stop buying me me things at office works because they're not that handy.

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She hadn't done it intentionally. But it just so happened that it's hard to say. So the reason I was bringing up the so if we're tying this all into hoarding shit, yeah. But also note taking stuff like that. I've been watching the documentary called the Zen diaries of Garry Shandling do, you know, Garry Shandling and he's a comedian he was

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he was he he was a host of the tonight show for a while human Jilin are used to share the role

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he sat a tie down around squeaky Oh, yeah. And he's he was I think he might have been in like,

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show you a photo of him anyway. He there's a photo of him. But

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But anyway, Judd Apatow the director might a great documentary on him. And it's called. It's called the Zen diaries of Garry Shandling. And what it made me realize was, it's all of the have taken all of these

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diaries that he's written. So he would fucking do journaling. And he would write all because he was a stand up comic as well. So right, all of these his jokes in these diaries and it's fucking great because it's like he said synthesizing his thoughts and some of the things he's saying brains like fact you guys are all the same in the sense of like, because he's a bit lacking bipolar. A bit mental. And she's like, completely realize because he's like, writing shit. Like, be more like Gary on stage. Be more like, diary or just like stuff. Like, where he's like affirmations, writing affirmations like that when you stop thinking, you be more like Gary be like, Gary, he's talking about himself. Yeah. So he was he was constantly sort of, and,

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and just all of those sort of struggles and shit like that. Anyway, what I found interesting was they had all these diaries and what it got me thinking was, I have I remember when I bought a few hundred books from Amazon. Yeah, one of the things I bought was a sort of came back a few years, but I bought those legal notepads. Yellow one yeah, so I bought a 50 yellow note pads and a bunch of Bic pens, and I've been using it as my preferred way of writing shut down the problem is that the way those those notepads effect and great but they're a bit disposable, right, yeah, so this is the thing no pads I don't think you want fucking mole skin. If mole skin skin note pencil crush, fucking like 30 bucks a pop it feel like he can't even rip a page out of the things. Yeah, they come to precious with them, right? You Baby them. It's tracking everything needs to be perfect handwriting. So I've gone to these exercise notebooks, which are like three bucks a pop, not the cheapest ones. But the sort of nicer little bit sort of cover. And so I'm now getting into the habit of just writing. I mean, I'm day one, day two, just writing in there. And when I'm having phone calls, doing all that sort of stuff just being pedantic. Good, when you're in the office, when you've got it in front of you good at cafes as well good at the moment in the morning, where it's like, or watching how much how many times you watching content watching YouTube. So for instance, brain I have got our travels end of June and I'm looking at what I'm actually going to fucking bring with me. So I'm trying to work out like economically, like from a space point of view, from a sort of real estate point of view around my bag, how much based on a leaf or different things what sort of bags I want to use. And I've been watching all these videos where it's like by these fucking woolen socks because you get like more whereas out of them, or there's these fucking These pants are really good, like, all of that sort of stuff. So these recommendations around if I can bags and clothes and different little fucking travel hacks, I would normally just fucking watch it the very best I might open up Evernote and write some notes but now I just fucking have been using day to keep in mind day to day two days later. Just fucking writing down all of these things and just being fucking pick the answer us into into paper is the difference pen to paper is fact. Yeah, instead of some to scrape that you can go so much quicker you can. And also I think it's just it encourages you to like so many times, I'll have a thought that would just fall away. Or for me it's about if I have a problem that I want to solve. If I'm trying to work out the future of something. Or if I'm where's my business going, all that sort of thing.

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I always do this I'm always I can note taking on like a yellow legal pad. And then if I can the very best I'll take a photo of it and upload it to Evernote for the most part. I'll just like synthesize it into copy which will then go on the website and then if I can check it out. This is a way of like, this is my fucking notepad for April. Just kind of fact in or I could wear 90 days in and just taking the end of April.

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See the difference? I told you. I was writing morning pages you journaling. Yeah. So I just would get a notepad about that size. Was that half of Evan I fault? legal? The legal pad half an a4,

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essentially. So it's the US it's what the US don't fucking use a for. This is what the US Yeah, this is like what the printer like if you got something printed

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size went to the food. They took the size of the paper. We in fact half of this fucking

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well there's a decrease in size of photos of exactly Well, they're all fucking whack

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you I'd use that and write three pages every morning. Just whatever comes to mind. Non Stop, start to finish. What sort of stuff my absolute garbage like Liza Brian fucking thought like today I wanted to write pages. And now I want to start doing this. I thought about going for a surf light, like psychopathic writing. It started to get a bit more sign. Yeah,

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well, I I don't like the Kim template. Just write whatever. Because my brain goes into this entertaining state. Which is like think dark thoughts charge your fat worth. Like, it's funny. But it's like, it's almost this this trigger thing where it's like,

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hey, think my mind thinks it's funny money to be like, what's the most fucked up things you could think? Right now? You don't want those diaries to be found? Yeah. So for me, for me, it's normally around an idea. So for instance, if we're just going through some of the things that I've been writing about, I wouldn't call journaling. But it's just essentially so for instance, I did a bit which is like, Okay, what are the what are the types of questions that I'm asking myself around travel? And so it's how often do I want to be working whilst I'm away? What camera equipment do I want to bring? What relationships do we have? What relationship do we want to have with social media?

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How do we structure our time? slash days? What questions do we want to answer while we're away? So for instance, the social media one, you know, if we do I want to be spending my time posting on Instagram do I want to make like, do I want to would be a thing I think could be every single day I post a nice photo from my trip or maybe the realization is I just want to fucking disconnect. And

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it's such a funny thing because like this approach to life for me is seems maybe a bit too structured. But I know there's rewards in it right? I think this like think your mind and this is great. Here is like a morning pages, it worked a lot and I know there was benefiting me when I didn't have as much going on, I think would probably benefit me now.

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Oh, yeah, I think for me, it's all around specific ideas. So it's like the daily talk show the current topics that we've covered. So phone

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So Brian, some nostalgia,

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business, marketing, relationships, finance, travel, life decisions, happiness for making YouTube struggles, big life questions, parenting, social media, topical subjects in the news, radio, creativity

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that didn't make the list that would come under smart, smart, smart so that those are the types of things that

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and so then I would write down things like what do I What do I want it to be? So it's like I want to be a two way conversation and so the questions I'm asking is how do we incorporate our listeners that's a question that I have what makes us unique

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you know asking that stuff what are the what are the some of the big questions I have around it so it's like okay do we want to have guests what how long long term strategy What do we want to do when I'm traveling do we want to incorporate video

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like can they I'm the only one who's made videos for this show appreciate can they be pre recorded so that's a question like I don't think my assumption is that the daily talk show needs to be done a that every day or on the various medication you record to in a day and released one which we've done twice

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so it's all those questions but if anyone has any ideas because I've had everyone who listens who I've had contact with that's the first question they are you

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doing when you go away yeah

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and I don't want to like we need to have a solution one of the things I've been thinking about and which was sort of Josh you potentially know we could do

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a reduced to shed you'll have two episodes a week two episodes will be easy to do plus went maybe we do two episodes a week that are in the daily structure while I'm away being able to dial in which would be easy to do the other option is we could still do five where we do to me away and then we bank we have a bank of you know we work out three awake where to bank

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or the other option is some generous sponsor flyers myself fucking your while every and brings my whole family and also a producer having to actually plug this should Eddie show the day you the decking sharper than if I

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could get around it today. Even actually, you know, one of the things are sinking, which would be cool. Yeah, an email database of our listeners. So how we can contact people beyond the podcast, you could be cool. I thought, like,

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I think that we've just been to it. Like, we've been really good at just fucking pumping them out. And we didn't go in with a huge amount of strategy. And now we can start to reverse engineer or say okay, we're 16 Yeah, close to 100. Yeah, once we are out when we get to a fucking 100, we can be like, Okay, well, maybe we could actually, you know, like I wrote down some guest ideas.

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Who Have I got

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you might find this interesting. It was like a jewels. jewels land. Hey, Miss Blake silent i'd, who founded in Bartow

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tie who does off screen magazine interesting to plug in all your rich friend who I don't know who else who else we need a little guys on 933 people that you get three people that you would like on as guest who should we get Seth Godin I'm still working so I sent him an email I told you that yeah I'm

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fucking hadn't written back I think

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it was because I didn't put enough value up front I literally I got lazy I literally said hi Seth loving the podcast for his one didn't say anything which I should have probably said I like this because of this. I'd like Roseland Cogan

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oh yeah I think these are attainable paper yeah Rosalynn Carter will be cool yeah

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we can ever probably can probably have this off air as well but if if you

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have a guest you'd like to hear we have a contact to someone that you think would be cool for the show yeah I think that's where it's you know we could easily I think we've got in our connection quite a few good solid profile people that we could pull in quite easily yeah

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that just have an interesting stories as well like

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I told you we talked about this before I want like a box or something I want someone who's been in jail I want someone who wants to guide us we need a

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yeah that would be good I'm still still spy fact I had a few ideas over the weekend of like are in fact I spy on you? Yeah.

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So fucking good ones. IDs a good actions better the thing like looking at you turn the pages of this talk all this stuff that's in these

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on in here.

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If you become a billionaire,

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there's not much fucking difference, right? They probably just doing this and then people actually listen like it's gospel. You know, like your people. I mean, it's all you are saying. Stuff like here. So he's what I did. I wrote down in the piece paper every day that there's new p you know, notepad and pen and then like, people fucking just anchor to that and go, that's it. Yeah, well,

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I think the thing is that it's good to synthesize your thoughts and not like a more than likely won't be a billionaire in my life. However, there are 89%

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of people 99%

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a bit loud, probably 99.99% Yeah, but the fact who's who's the guy there's a big producer who does he's like journaling and stuff like that. But I do enjoy for me as an over thinker. I actually love this because it means that there's studies which say that when you put pen to paper when you take it out of your head you're able to close some of those loops hashtag close the loop Yeah. So if it's all just in your head, it's in so many times I've had these ideas and then I fuckin forget on I'm going with it. I'm like, fuck what's a literally there was a Adecco idea that I wanted to implement while brain I or why which was going to be big fucking part of that trip. Fucking forgot the idea. Remember that remembered it and write it down. But it took me going through and finding like an Evernote where I just mentioned, like a URL of a website from a research point of view where I was able to be like, off.

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Yeah, and you got the trigger. Yeah, brought it back. I was talking to someone today. I mean, there's so many processes, I feel like I'm shoot it writing, it's probably belief. And so like, I'm talking in reference to come out with scripts for videos. And what I found was, I was a bit like, you know, like, paralyzed when I sat down to start writing a script in the moment where you just writing and paper or years typing away trying to come up with the exact script. But where I found from doing more of it. And now, like, one of my goals that I kept on saying, my head, I never wrote this down and talked about, but I was like, I want to get better at just talking to camera. And for me, that means being able to articulate what I'm thinking and still have it well presented. And make fucking sense. Yeah. And so I, I found that one of the approaches to writing a script can be actually talking and, and starting, and for me, it doesn't always work for all videos. But for my videos, I can start talking to the camera now and have an idea because I constantly am thinking about the idea for the video, but then can start piecing it together while talking to the camera. And that's one way of doing it. Right? Yeah. And so for everything, there's not a specific way That is right. You need to know what's the right one for you. Right? I think

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the question is around that, you know, talking it out, or whatever it is, how do you talk it out in your head, so you can articulate it on paper. So, for instance, I think the reason why I'm a good writer that people think I'm a good writer is because as a kid, the thing that I was always writing with speeches or debate, I was in debate class, like, you know, debate club, and I was doing all that stuff. The school Captain SRC thing was when I was right. The most I ever wrote in school were for my speeches. And so the thing about speeches is, you're constantly reading out what you're writing. So it's like you say it out loud, say how it sounds, you adjust all that sort of thing. And so I think that the thing that might trip people up with if they're writing a script, so whatever it is, is to say, this format and sidecar need to do this format of a script. It's going to be, you know, one minute per page, and it can be in final draft and it's going to have character action, fucking dialogue, all of that sort of thing. And that is writing Yes. But comedians, fucking writers in general, I can guarantee that the final product when they writing it doesn't look like that, right? Yeah. And so I think that as a writer, being able to like it's going to be a mix. So for you, I would probably encourage you to say, Okay, well, if you're writing a safe if we're tight, like, I think that writing is this fucking magical thing that everyone no one knows what the fuck it is. And that person's a writer. What does that mean? I think what it is, is, it's like saying, okay, it might be bullet point. So you might be questions. So it might be for instance, say your

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your video on your neighbor's fire that happened. You could say, Okay, what are the what are the story? Bates? So what are the things that happened? So discover the fire Tell, tell other neighbor to move car fire ease, arrive? media contacts me, Amy? You know, Amy asks, question, whatever it is, you have the story Bates? And then you can say, Okay, what are the visual ways of talking about this? What footage do I have? Or what's the dialogue that can go in? So you might have this line, which is like, you never expect it to happen to you, right? Maybe that's the thing you never expect it to happen to you? What does what does that come down to? Maybe it's around the fee like. So extending that theme on to some messages, the message might be the fee of the fire coming to you people being in the house asking, you know, all of those types of questions. And so that might look like a mind map. It might be on a left side might be a mind map on the right, it might be the start of dialogue. But to me, that is actually if you look at writing. And even if you look at this, you know, this doctor that I was watching and seeing his notes, it's fucking just like, man's of ideas.

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I am have written scripts for videos, done them to camera, and then edited, edited the script in the in the actual editing of the footage. I just dropped heaps of my, my, my talking Yeah. Fucking like holy shit. I didn't need that. So if I was to go back and look at what I wrote in the page, it's like, didn't need 60% of it. But it's a good way a bit. And it's a way of filtering your thoughts. Yeah.

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So what's the other option? So the other option is that so you could say, Okay, I'm really good at talking. I don't need speech, right? That's it. That's a fifth theory. But what about if you have dot points? So the thing is that if you're onstage and you're speaking for 20 minutes, yes, you might be really good off the cuff. Have some ideas. But what about some level of safety net? which just says, Okay, these are the non negotiable I want, I want to thank people for being here. Yeah,

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I want to tell you about this tell you, but I'm, I'm more of a dot point. Yeah, dot point person. Or when I was in radio, worked it out pretty quickly. Yeah, I started trying to think about how to skip the break. But then I was like, not dot points of fun. I didn't laid it in. And I like just engaging in the story in the communication of the story and getting feeling the, you know, the back and forth and dot points is still writing. Yeah.

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And so that's what like, if you look at the half the stuff that I've done today is fucking dot points. And then I'll have a little bit of a moment of like, this point might like, say, if you're doing a talk or something, this point might have a specific quote, or something that works works out well. So for instance, I was doing all of these, you know, what are the what are the values, you know, for instance, I did this writing down

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for full stack films. What the full stack, you know, my business, what are the what are the values, what do I care about, and all that sort of thing. And so, I was I wrote down some stuff around you've got your phone out now. So now I'm just hanging out which fucking Why don't we aren't? Yeah, so this was I, I, this was over this was on this guy. This was three days ago for any launched into buying cc back with a knife. Exactly. So for instance, there's all these there's all these thoughts around like, Okay, what am I, what are my values, and it's like,

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time is that greatest asset, respect the story, elevate the quiet voices in our community, all that sort of shit. And then I came up with a couple of little lines, which is a nonfiction storytelling allows you to walk in someone else's shoes, building empathy, and empowering positive change. So that came from the values I don't know where that's going to see it. But that's just a little line, which I liked and thought, okay, that's something cool. Did you do any work today, and then Ryan, either writing those are the funny thing is like, these are like, you look at it, it's like, there's a phone call with a client,

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you know, like, I, I've been using the index card, which is like, what am I going to complete today on one single card? If I can drop points, you can say, like, just lines wrote as I go, and my, it's a bit like my office. I built it to be a certain way. Yeah. And I worked out what actually was getting used. And now I've adapted it to more of what I do and more conducive to what I actually use. And this is the same thing you two days in 30 days from now. Yep. If you keep doing this, it means that it's very much in line and you seeing are you seeing it and maybe you are pushing maybe we need to do things that make us fucking feel a bit uncomfortable, more and more. Yeah,

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well, I think that the thing is, it's it's about just creating

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not structure but maybe

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intention link focused on your intention towards it. This isn't nothing in this is new that I've even done. This is just being it's deliberate, right? It's saying like if I can write down stuff all the time. And so if someone said to me Hi, like, and we've done it How many times have we had a conversation where I'm like, hey, let's work out what the strategies for what you do and I'll get out my yellow pad and I'll fucking right out these things. I'm like, this is how to do it. And that yellow piece of paper goes in the bin but why is the yellow what's the difference between yellow was no difference knowing what what is it what I'm saying is that this is a this is a notebook that he's the idea is that it's building on something that my thoughts that I will then look back on if i do i don't know if you will, but I think that the differences with note taking is what's the point in taking the notes so at the moment I use notes to synthesize thoughts in the moment to structure my ideas but very rarely do I ever look back at the notes so then the thing becomes stick to the night taking because that seems like the thing that you do but it's like a monthly read through you need to dedicate an hour awake or an hour a month is that racially it's literally the only difference i think is that I'm being more deliberate with these aware I'm having one place for it to store and so I can say what is actually I had this thought the other day were like how do we go back or Tommy we fucking problem is when you get 200 pages deep then what how do you look back on that shit where do you know how do you know where do you think it's better than doing nothing

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yes and it's like the pages is writing nothing or getting stuff out I and went from doing crazy shit talking about weird things to actually do what you in writing at ideas and definitely think the process of it getting you know off out of your head into the page you then start talking about what you put on paper more and so yes it is the process but I think it's like whatever you stick to if that be morning pages of this yeah one of them will be good yeah no I think I had a quick one yeah I didn't even mention that I my house next door to me put down and I Amy called the fiber guide and I went down the faculty here and put it out so the video because we talked about it like everyone would have known we knew about started we do the house next door to me burnt down while I was watching Netflix I

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know what the unit know what our YouTube channel they said on the YouTube video on my YouTube channel I saw on

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in the news that they said it was a suspicious fire yes why what suspicious because I don't know what happened I think it might have been late I don't know I said that in my video that's the name of the the headline in the article or because I was asking you you would like before I read that line and you're like yeah I'm like do you think I asked you do you think it was deliberately late and you said nah man the guys there if I can everyday work yeah

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it's a that someone said to me recently you're working because he's a builder Do you reckon he didn't pay some fact and contractors have come in and because you're gonna just jump the fence and so that's that's why they who knows yeah it sounds juicy. And the video July the video

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scribe actually I remember hearing a story of that with the trainees. I did all these like wooden frame type stuff or a house didn't get paid just went through one day with an axe axe all of it. Yeah, I heard of a guy may like an electrical system that he installed. Yeah.

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And then he put a bug into it because they didn't pay him back masters. Yeah, that's so common. Yeah, it try these anyway. That's the daily talk show. We got a little birdie man. Yeah. And I've got a good

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