#374 – Sabotaging & Self Serving Beliefs/
- June 21, 2019
Happy Fat Fridays everyone, we’ve got some homemade cookies from one of our amazing listeners! We talk about Josh’s gronk fingernail move, sabotaging and self serving beliefs, and Tommy’s favourite Adam Sandler movie!
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show we discuss:
Josh’s gronk fingernail move
Our amazing Fat Fridays delivery from Alexandra
Listening to your body
Alcohol and its effects
What retirement looks like
Evening movie preferences
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It's a daily Talk Show Episode 374 be fat Fridays. This is the earliest one of the earliest times we've ever done a fat Friday.
Yeah, well, I think it plays into our fat Friday today so we're not doing breakfast. I've had breakfast he had breakfast.
This is going to be my breakfast. That's okay.
I mean when it is fat Friday, I can't judge a man who eats cookies for breakfast.
I've done it many times before.
Now so just quickly we can we jump straight into this because they're sitting right there and I've got the perfect combo I'm gone coffee yeah fresh batch and there's cookies that have arrived so
when would you go a hot chocolate over coffee
are today like right now? I would hundred percent What are you doing with the computer my singing of moving
so I was gonna
try to man it takes us eating seriously I just
I mean these these laptops have these like the keyboard crown
the crown catcher
they are this horrendous but that actually can ruin you like let us you might be able to watch a whatever
just quickly when I when I first got to ship it and doing my radio show there. I got it I got there early and as in a couple of days early before candy and I started and so it was like a Wednesday she got there on a Friday
Did you have your an apartment or something at that point or has denied
you I think I
yeah. Land hotel or motel? No I
was put up in a service department and there was you know those those apartments where there's a door where you can hire both of them for you know a big family you basically have access through motels doing
yeah. Next door. There was a guy and you could hear him cutting up ice as he not called us as in smoke a boss and you could hear kids crying that would drug dealers and I can hear them like ripping bones in you know, it was
it was so welcome to shepherd and I was
like and I I just made me feel so I wasn't worried that I'm going to come in but it was just like it makes you feel good he kids there any anyway. The gronk before main Shepperton they had I guess it's like your car right? There's a few things about your car that I just see when I get in there. Can I say? Yeah, your nails that you leave in the side. Can I
did I did that? I did that one.
Last time. I would be mortified. Because the thing is to be to be honest, she when I said that we needed the cafe Elora Yeah, she said Tommy left so much mad all over the card. It's
cool. We're in the country tell
you exactly what that's what I said. I was like Bella, right? We're not going to be the same thing. I have the naval thing that has been done before. Look, I'll
meet you Josh because I have like, toothpicks. And my point is you're not allowed at gronk
it's also my thumb is the size of a fucking house. So when you're
talking about I specifically talking about my thumb nail,
but my point is we're all gronk and you over there Mr. 97 In fact, I think he claimed as a whistle he would come to your room be bloody summer
sometime issues or something?
Something that we could find 100% i'd love we should do a video inspecting Mr. 97
Wouldn't that be great?
I mean, I think also growing three but I wreck I don't know if it's the boys vibe, but I know. someone telling me a storey of it was a wedding day. And they had to move a couch to get this photo of the whole family and that was about 10 years worth of nails
behind the couch. Oh man I'm so pleased Oh
my the idea with the nails This is my conundrum. What is more gronk key putting it in there this is what this is my thing process. I put it in the sign compartment beach yet.
And to be clear, can you how clean is outcome outside of it?
I actually noticed as well like yeah,
it's super clean. It's a very clean cut and so but the thing is that little section there I'm like I'm going to put it in there. And I'm going to check it out because it feels like that's better than throwing it out now I agree. I think it's thrown out the window to find to throw
it out the window it's not I don't think it's a gronk move to
throw it out the window it's going to just like like knowing elements will just like sanded down like what are your fingers may be something
public about me doing this.
You just do it just subtly just a just
to do that. Yeah, no.
Yeah, you definitely do i
do that. Anyway, back
to it. These gronk that were gronk that we're there it builds a case the show we're all gronk
absolutely live on the show and
listening right now going now bullshit
I just think everybody that's why I think it when someone just guys you're shy faculty you know you say the wrong thing at the wrong time. You know, like everyone you think it
I just realised that fucking Jordan Michael ladies was telling me about how I hope my coffee. I can do it all the time. Whenever
I clean the studio, the radio studio, you guys were top to bottom. Like I just felt like I got in there. I was like, I want to vacuum I want to dust it all down. You know, I want to make it feel like mine. Yeah, I want to put my stamp on it. Did you
have like a bottle of hand sanitizer and stuff too?
I had Yeah, I had it all we had to hit that was a big in the studio because then other gronk would come in as well. So you like you mix in gronk and that's when you get some, you know, serious fucking germs. And anyway, I found so many nails like that. gronk
I think it's almost the witnesses in defence of the gronk which is I think is a very good segment in defence of the gronk
I don't even realise that I'm doing it. No,
of course not that I can gronk because
I felt like I was I saw a nail on the floor the other day as I was may like it though. It could only be made. But I forget like I don't know. Yeah, you don't realise I
doing I get it. I get it. But you should have seen what about the clipping?
What about the guy at the front he The Korea was he doing? Remember what you said? Oh,
there's something I don't know if it's me, if it's just me, but for some reason, like the sound of someone cutting their nails really repulses me. I don't know what it is about it. I just like a bit I do I can do it for myself. And I don't feel like that. But I just want to think maybe it's because I know how dirty I can be. And then I think about someone else who's doing that. And you know, there's not not much you'd like you clip in it shoot off. And so his trainees at ages.
He does it all the time you're saying
Well, I've seen him do it a couple of times. And it just which is bizarre, but these keyboards in this radio studio. Oh my god, I turn them upside down. And these are old shitty friggin PC keyboards, and I'm just having all my god I had to get an scrums and
it was so just getting a new keyboard.
You're in shipping and I got no badge
of honour by because I'm notorious for working in companies where I'm just like if you guys aren't gonna buy it, I'm gonna buy it. Yeah, how does Josh have that fucking amazing chair and I'm just rolling it it's like I bought myself
a new headphones which are the same Audio Technica ones so that's I think nice these are pretty intimate years which we've bought our own pairs here or we bought everyone a pair of headphones you know we
don't require at 97 and deal before we get to the cookies. I just want to understand Yes. Just before we press record three day deal had some sort of weird reaction. Oh, and then my missing it seven was like oh, why do I open it? So and then I was like, what's going on? Besides seven? As a good producer says keep up with the show.
Alright, so now we're going to hijack and and say what what were you What did you plant Mr. 97? And what were you hoping?
Yeah, also I I was hoping that you guys would read this out and then would get deals reaction on air but he opened the show notes document. But I'm
even have the show notes on my laptop.
Anyway, anyway, so I woke up this morning ready for the gym and we had a few unread direct messages and open one open one from the beaded Ven, who's been going through a back catalogue of content. And he replied to a storey that deal put out yesterday saying is that an intentional spelling mistake who wrote that Mr. 97 or Josh? Here we go. And so this storey is 3d deals announcement 10 days to go. In fact
even notice the
judge paper who counts and then announcement Yeah, I get it.
Yeah, that's how I've been announcement it's Yeah. So yeah, I
woke up and had a good laugh at that I'd be deleted it No.
Because like it's an honest mistake and in in defence of a gronk it's hard to type when your whole hand you know what
Susan it's so funny how defensive
hand and muddy shoes
we struggled to type it in so
I would like what's fun about that is that it's an Instagram storey was also
not a selling mistake now. Movies a typo? Yeah. Do you think because you
had spelled announcement with one end or instead of the CE? E, typically an entity at the end that was announced and then No, he just me empty then that would have been I would class
I so I uploaded an idea. I've done this so many times. When you write sub scribe, if you just I've just miss know misspelt. I've just What did you call it? It's a typo where I wrote sub crab sub, subscribe, miss the sub. Misty is
constantly doing that. I only did it twice and I uploaded the video twice. I had to delete it.
So it's a YouTube video. It's more like this is gone. So
this is an in store. You've got 24 hours of time. And then you
know I'm in school for design. I'm not in school for English
and teach in high school.
So Alexandra has delivered the goods more specifically her sister who around 8am this morning, three day deal. Did the deal. Did the deal in a backstreet in Abbott's get more druggie.
I mean you're seeing people hand over what they call cookies yeah quite often around here really well.
And I really dealing them in cookies Nana Becky's
so I'm sure there's a few big deals cookies you may be tablets Yeah, so
because when you say cookie I assumed you meant like, like marijuana or whatever but you never buying be pretty rare to have a dealer who's like a baker's specialise in
so Alexandra emailed us inspired by Marianne who did our surprise over rates order the other week and so she said I bake cookies. I want to bake you some cookies. And now we have the cookie
just from a Dibs point of view Bry has already asked me to take one I saw no chance no chance how many we got we got Hi
I know you lead with that. But there's also a chance that we get just fully into it we don't go Josh don't get rude. This is like the key to fucking opens the prison checks the card over there. You cannot do that. Check for cash. right there's a bit going on here. Oh, wow. Okay, so I'll just take the second
smell them that's what I was gonna do.
No, but hang on. We got it. Look this is a lovely package. She's got
how do you do that? That's amazing. She's put our photo into
a legit Polaroid Alexandra. You absolutely weapon Have you done that? She's taking a photo with a photo
but it's amazing. looks right. From a couple of Narcissus Thank you.
Yeah, and we've we needed a stat we should just buy one of the cameras for the studio. This is a nice this is like we can just every single time we get an Instagram we just tagged Alexandra and this is all this is awesome. So this is some nice, thick. I don't know where you'd start feel it but what would you say that is? That's a
no no it's about a What do you reckon do or maybe 200 Jason it's pretty solid on the other have a squeeze?
I mean then I'll read the card but
tell me a little quick little quick face. I'm going to say to 20
Okay, only because you said 200 Yeah, I would have done the same Okay, here we go to good card stock to Tommy Josh. Mr. 97 3d deal. Here they
First cookies. Bon appetit. best chocolate chip cookies made with 70% dark chocolate yum. Will you accept that because I know you like a
baby boy. Now this is I mean 85 is if I'm being healthy.
Okay, these are the best although a tiny bit burned
this one says eat me first.
Shock cookies. So that's them. Yeah, I think that's okay. Second cookies, which these ones grandma even since the her surname. So it's a grandma's cookies. My family are obsessed with these and carry many memories. I hope to keep the tradition going with this recipe. That's awesome. I love it. And then Yeah, I think so. I think so. I want to do a like a bit of a fun recipe book with all her friends families recipe I am so it's like I think there's like you got a group of mates like Alex you know her family have a recipe for Janssen is could do
mom's actually gotten quite good.
I wasn't a fan of lasagna. That was the mom has a recipe right
mom? My mother's a rocky
road. Can she make one? Maybe we can have moms to make the recipe. Yeah.
What do you reckon your mom?
My mom's got a recipe which it's a chocolate cake and it's not so smart. That I don't like
is it mad? I like potato or something?
it well I think as kids growing up with the Sara Lee soft cakes is everything's just soft and you know you haven't been fried for two three days. It's still soft somehow. Yeah, there this recipe makes it hard is fat. So I like I like dense so maybe people do like the cake. It's sorry man I
likely from I guess Oregon do not burn them. Alex
This is like a finger on them.
Like hashtag get your finger on them. And see they're still soft yet still sorry. Let's pass it around. Do you grab one? That when the word they've got they've got some density to Okay, here we go. Here we go.
Oh, you're like come
on Jesus. Oh
no, that's real good. If that's like a recipe from scratch.
It's like a honey reminds me of a honey jumbo jumbo jumbo
with chocolate. It's fucking delicious. But obviously not the texture of a honey jumble. I've had hash cookies before and they can't taste this. So I think we're pretty psyched. I love that. I wonder
you a soft or hard cookie guy.
Soft hundred percent. thing is you know when you go to like words or calls and they have the cookie section. Oh, I actually spoke to someone the other day.
Whose Dad? Oh,
yeah. So Ryan, john was telling me he's friends family are the ones that make all those cakes for words. The ones that are always soft and lovely. ever beat factory they pump out one of these guys. And then there's another company to do the cookies for words and calls.
That's the thing with the longer you leave them this is it goes against everything that you know to be true. Because you think that when you leave something goes stale. It goes hard cookies. Especially the ones from Coles and Woollies stuff. I feel like as a kid, if they somehow I'd forgotten the cookies were there. So the last more than a day? Yeah. So they're on the back of the cupboard or whatever. rummaging around and day two, I find them. They're softer than the day one. Do you agree?
I mean, it's not that much of a research when they're eaten within the second.
Is it is
I'd say two weeks later is a fact. No, but do they do cookies 97 cookies go softer over time?
Yeah, okay. I don't think that it
beat me a second. I think if they
had and they're out, they're gonna go hot. It's like braid. It will everything goes style. Okay. Justin's cookies. This is great. My Aronson's cookies.
Here we go. Oh, yeah. Is this a before we sat recently? Oh, no, no, no. Roma, Roma Roma. You know they make him Can I eat the role low?
Just be gronk Don't you know eating chocolate? No, I thinking Mikey shoot. What's the right way? You need to buy into this and get some chocolate to here. Yeah.
That's real battery.
And then the chocolate. Grandma in Iowa. So good. Thanks, Alex.
How many can we have age? If we have one
MRT decadent, like they're not I don't think these are rich cookies. But having three of these. I think going beyond that is probably just three as in having three age 18 just eating three.
So more of these and then one more about if you want,
but I'm just saying. I'm saying if you would it I think just eat more than three days. It's been super indulgent, which we
three fighting cookies. So in total,
total one to have to have and one sending the rules. I just I just think I could eight. I would have three. There's so we spend a lot of our lives just not listening to our bodies. You spend a lot of your life not listening to your song and it's true.
And so it's maybe I'm maybe I know what my body I know but I
think there's that right. Like I think if you start trying to listen and I'm not saying that I'm the fucking You know,
I think actually we've got my body of actually sorted out this microphone, so I can this is a bit of radio gear. I'm going to go late into it. I've actually got a microphone that I can put up to my body and we can hear what it's saying all right, Dan devote Okay, here we go. Ah What do we think of radio guys? Was that good? Oh, no. That's why they my fucking megaphone. If I had a megaphone, I could do that. But again, my least favourite part of radio when
you eat a big meal and you go full on any like, I'll have dessert but into inside you know, you shouldn't have dessert and if you think I probably shouldn't have dessert. I will not listen you just not listening to the body. We spend all the time doing that.
Or it's working out to alcohol to we do it with alcohol. That's why I'm so glad I don't drink if I like I go have one glass of wine every six months. But if I actually What are you laughing at?
laughing at anything?
What one glass every six months is
you do you? That's all I'll say. You know? Because it's just no it's just I
I wouldn't expect you to drink at all.
Okay, one of the most favourite shows I did. And you can listen back to it find the episode with Josh Simon's
Oh yeah. In LA.
Josh cracked open a second bottle of champagne was making mimosas
I was drunk by the end of it if
you like him enough. samosa.
What's it What is this most of us?
Me another samosa drinkable but yeah, you were real fluffy. And I was I was pretty pissed that
you can see how it becomes a thing like for instance, yeah, can you tell me a place
Yeah. Are they take what's coffee? A nice little battery?
It's almost like a maka. Isn't it without having a mock up.
But no Bry and I the other the other day went to rages pizza. And this was a night is always seems to happen when? Which is risky throwing the cookies
whenever we plan to eat soup at home
yeah, very rare that we actually the soup it's because
well, you might not break he's got like found this like really nice soup that she likes that she started eating on the two days.
When did you When is this last night?
Now this was no no, not after burgers. That'd be there's no
need anything after this. Right? I use 79. We had burgers from there.
This is last week.
And now it wasn't even last week.
I think was like two days yesterday. The conversation I heard on the phone or food chat between you and Bry I think it's because you ate out so much. And you always like what were we going oh no, I don't want Mexican.
It's true. I heard yesterday is I I had burgers. So I don't even know if I'll need soup. Yeah, that was last night. And the soup chat is a lot of
crusty piece of bread with a bit of peanut butter. Which is probably worse than some there's a super seems easy. Seems like it's like a liquid. It's like a drink. You could drink it. But
yeah, my relationship with soap has always been like, whenever like, it's so the best.
The sour cream on top.
The best part about soap, he's not eating the soup.
The best part about soup is buying the soup living in the cupboard morning wanted to if it didn't
feel like so. The best thing about soap is another best thing about soap back in the bread that you dip in. That's the best thing about so this is a bit place. Right? Thank you. Not a snippet I want to complete detail.
It's gonna go for three minutes.
That that was about as unreliable as the sweet chatty. People get it?
No, but we did. We did have pizza the other night. It was actually really nice. Because we were like, if we're gonna do it, we'll we'll talk until well now will actually that will sit in. Ok. We'll go into Raiders and All right, so the answer really nice invite. It's almost like feels like a one bar or whatever. We didn't have one we just have water. But stocking up on a BINGO BINGO. Another reference point no prob pizza, Red Raiders. But what I started to realise was how much brain I can just enable it like when I was like, do you want to only thing I haven't finished a sentence and phrase like starting to do a U turn this way should we pack? Like as I'm saying Do you want to have right? So anyway, what I was thinking is, I wonder if couples do this with alcohol like is a big thing. Like if you're trying to trying to reduce your alcohol alcohol consumption feels like a bigger issue than food in some ways where it's like, if you eat too much food, you will just be obese. If you drink too much alcohol, you will be a raging alcoholic.
The nasty I think there's a there's a there's a place where a lot of people leave and it's it's it's not an alcoholic. I've just got an unhealthy relationship with it. So they just drink more than they need. Which so there's a point where it's like turns into you are you know, what can identify as an alcoholic? Because it's just super destructive, right? Look at my friend who goes to AI. And you know, we drink gronk growing up and it's like, you could go do Did you have a problem? But he severely identifies or he just Yeah, he really truly believes he was an alcoholic. And so of course he is then at that point, because he realises how destructive it was. And so though I know people that are like him, they don't see themselves as an alcoholic and then just sort of don't drink for a while and then come back.
What about if you if you have a bad day at work? If you default is I need a wine. I need to be
how like what do you think that is on the spectrum?
I think because Medicare there is that last minute. Yeah. That's why I wanted to have a year off, right? Because it's it's hard to pick to the year that we went to bed
or saying yesterday. So I've been off six months of alcohol. And I was I was thinking like, and you said at the start. I've heard you know Jordan pace and talk about you know, getting off something. You It is something feels the place of it. Right? Or you need to feel the place of it because drinking alcohol is fucking great. It makes you feel great. It's an anti anxiety medication. While you're having it, it's like you just feel lovely. You feel a bit of a buzz and so so what have you replaced? Do you think? I think it's probably this show. Really?
Yeah, well, I think we're drinking it with me now.
But to do my little exercise every second day, haven't missed a second day from the start of the year at six months of doing that. So I've been able to keep consistent showing up to doing things like the show in the business and I've just I think it definitely has been you know, the focus. It's like if I'm on the weekend if I'm out on the weekend drinking I'm not thinking about probably work and shit. So it's like my thinking is probably been just shifted. So it's not like I've filled it with you know, I used to drink every Saturday and Sunday. I now go bar karate and reset and this is like I know, but I have
done it stolen
couple years ago. Yeah. Knowing the one time I fucking had my bike I'd been I had it inside. I'd been to America
First night I got home put the bike out in the back. The back had a gate that led to a lane way the bike got stolen that night. So knowing how fucking and only that anyway, check back but yeah, my point is now I get it but so yeah, drinking. I think if you do drink to mask a feeling, not a good idea be destructive. It's like eating when you feel like shit. Yeah, it's doing something so it's using an external source to change your internal which is why I didn't miss why I stopped drinking. Yeah, because I didn't want to rely on something external to change my intern. Exactly. Three day deal. Being in hashtag college.
People just drinking all the time.
When I was in my first year of college, like I used to drink a lot more than I thought I would like it would it would be like a Thursday night Friday night. Saturday night sometimes Sunday night to leading into Monday.
And what did I drink?
Beer coolers which is like real sugary and nasty makes you feel like shit cool is so it's like a it's basically like mixing mixing vodka and like a sprite do lemonade. You do it yourself? Is that what they know? Like you can buy an ice
cream mix? Yeah, in America is not a great deal. A pre mic stuff like when when I was there in 2012. Walking through the bottle shops and stuff. It's so cheap to buy a bottle of vodka. $13
Why isn't it funny? What like, I think that's one of the interesting things about I always want to preface a three day deal. Being in Canada. I feel like every time we talk about Canada, we end up reverting to the US
because there's a lot of similarities in playing the tour. But it's like maybe maybe Canadians drink more pre mixed in the bottle than Americans do. I don't
know. It's funny how brands there are brands in the US that are considered sheet. But they're actually okay. In Australia. Yeah, bad line. Yes, things
are just novelty. It's like VOB but even like
clothing, clothing. I remember there were certain things where it's like, it was guests or whatever. Back in the day. It's like, cheap in the US. But you could flow into Australia. Yeah.
Like American Apparel. Any good over there. Did people say that as
well, American Apparel? Are they even still? I remember. Because American appeals in one way the guy. The CEO went pretty crazy. He was. They were publicly listed. But he's got a new brand. I think it's called La apparel. There's a great taco on his demise, though. Ryan Holliday was the marketing director. That
is also been it's not Ryan Holiday. That's no,
no, no. Ryan Holiday leaves.
headline holiday will actually I've seen rumours that he will eventually do a book on this guy. Yeah. Which would be phenomenal.
Yeah. I'd like to have Ryan Holliday on the show.
Yeah. He's really I mean, he seems to have he's left out in doesn't he? Because he's like, he does. He's running. He's got an Apple Watch. I mean, what more could you want?
Yeah, I mean, what jumps out to me more is he's a writer who lives on a property having, you know, five kids, I understand.
I know. I mean, that'd be like swims all the time. He's, but he's also he shows up, he shows up. And he's he's also he's also got Yeah, he's got like a gun and shoot has to share wild animals trying to kill him.
The drinking stuff I getting these. And I cut probably know that the I know that the belief is just made up internally. But I think that the belief will benefit me. So the belief is, if I don't drink for the next year, I think I can become more successful in my business, and I and all this stuff. So then I go, if I that's what I'm just drumming into myself. But if what we know is that beliefs are just constructs of thinking, you know, this is all just a construct this whole thing? Yeah.
It is weird, isn't it? But it shows you how much mindset and things can like actually change. Change your world, but it seems so tiny.
Yeah, but actually have massive implication. It's a serving belief. Yeah. So this isn't? Yeah. beliefs that don't serve you. Yeah. Like, that's what I like Tony Robbins book. It was like doing an audit on your belief system. One of them I think. I mean, that's general self help. Right. So think about what you believe, write it down, and then challenge that belief. And does it serve you? Or does it sabotage you?
I think Mr. 97 is a good example of, I think you have a lot of beliefs. self serving,
like I think they are self
serving. Yeah, I think that Well, I think that was, to an extent. Yeah. But I think when I yeah, what do you mean?
Well, I, some some of my beliefs limit me from doing stuff that I probably, I mean, like, it closes off my options, I guess, because I believe in it. And I'm just like, Can you share one not going to go anywhere near that? Can you share one with? Yeah, well, it's probably I think, probably alcohol. And yeah, like, I guess, like parties and social events, like it just closed myself off to that.
So is it is it that you've closed off to the parties? And then you think, okay, I'll say no to drinking, because that relates to the parties. And so you've done this sort of like,
yeah, that Yeah, there's a connexion there. But I think it's more just like, there's an association of what happens when people are on alcohol. And it's just like, I don't want to go anywhere near that. Like, I just don't enjoy that. So then, then I restrict myself from going out. And like what we did with like, Dylan, the rest of the coconut crew, like you don't get to experience
that was beautiful.
to correct it was that you made the coconut, correct? Yeah.
No, I think that the thing is that when I appreciate I was thinking about this yesterday, when I was when I talked about Bry was playing the instal RGA TV. of me doing the memory game, which is funny, because she's seen me do that memory game anytime.
But she still managed to watch
Exactly. Now she's she was she, it's amazing how much the people around us and what they say like my partner's words. Exactly. And so she was like, Oh, that was a very entertaining
breeze feedback, because she does say just straight at your various Hi, Tommy, you're quite funny. Yeah. She didn't say this, just straight to the point.
But what got me thinking that was I was hearing me, I really listened back or whatever. But always hear me talk about the storey of my workplace. My Own Boss, Michael lever, and all that sort of thing. And I was thinking about how much of a shift employee I want. In just every basically every company that I've worked at believe said, exactly, it doesn't serve you exactly. And that's what
exactly. And so that was the thing. But the, the funny thing that's happened now, is the belief that I had, that was the negative connotation of the belief. The positive part was entrepreneurial on make things happen. I'm a leader. And that feels like life now is more in alignment with that. So it all works. But um, yeah, it was it was interesting, interesting, thinking about the that difference, the difference between being in a place that doesn't serve, I guess, to your point 97. It's like, the, all of those things. They're not that popular as well. Like what you're saying, isn't that popular, like more people drink them don't drink in Australia. And so I feel like anyone that can
do something, despite what the general public's says, I think that's a positive like it. That's a positive in 90% of cases. And so what do you see this as Mr. 97 self serving, or is it sabotaging like, Josh, you're saying he's found alignment? He had it, he's in the work environment, there's friction, based on the belief exits creates his own thing. There's, it's more congruent with, you know, he's belief.
Yeah, I, it's, I don't think it's one way or another, it's definitely both. Because if that that sort of belief is helped me develop my Friendship Circle, and then that's sort of like, push me into what I'm doing now. So it served me in that way. But then it, you know, it's it's restricted me from actually like, going out and potentially like meeting all these new people. So it's,
and that's why you need to reply. But I think the thing is that, if you're taking out the negative component, it feels like it needs to then be replaced with something positive. So at the moment, you're very good with work and the show. And we know that everything's always going to be sorted. So you've replaced party time, with podcast time, which is great. Good one, yeah. Hey, pay with pay, that maybe there is another one, which is like, that social element that like, so it's like, okay, taking partying, to what is the actual social stuff that I want to be doing?
Yeah. And then there's the reality that it's not natural for you, or it feels like it's hard, which means that we move away from it, because it can create pain. Yeah, I was talking to someone recently about, I was just saying, you know, working a lot, winter bit down, I don't really, I don't really do much other than work, you know, during the day, and then the weekend, I'm tired. And so it's like, where's the fun in their life? Where's that? You know, that enjoyment? Not that they don't enjoy work that much. But I mean, just working for somebody, and working, you know, just can take it out of you? And I was I was thinking about this, like, what do you like, it's the discussion that has to all the questioning, you need to ask yourself is, what do I actually like? And then that's what we spoke about, right? And then he's like, but then after work, I'm just fact it's like, well, I know you fact, but there's also the reality that showing up for 30 minutes, if you just say 30 minutes, five days a week or every day after work, I'll do this, regardless of if it's painful, and I don't want to and I want to go to bed, because it's within the pain within that showing up. The reward time the learning comes like this at this podcast. I think I've learned more from just showing up. And it's not even about consistency. It's about myself. It's about understanding, when you commit to something regardless, yeah, what that does feel world. What does for
external, like, what I'm curious about, is I love doing this show so much. I love working on this show so much. It's so easy. I wonder what happens when that becomes the number one option? Like what happens when, like, I'm there? Will I find something like I do worry sometimes like, oh, maybe when that becomes the thing, then I'll find something within that thing. Like, I feel like do we always need some little shit part of your work? To be able to make you appreciate this stuff?
This comes with struggles, right? Like you. You're constantly thinking about this, you're constantly labouring over what are we doing? Like, so there is pain, but the bed like the enjoyment we get out of it is so hot.
Yeah. But it doesn't feel like the thing is that those the pain is that I can't just do it all the time. The pain is actually in that sometimes doing the show is procrastinating from something else that I need to do. So yeah, I do wonder, but then we speak to our friends who have radio and TV and they do all that sort of thing. And what ends up happening is it's like they love the radio bit, but they're not enjoying this TV bit of that. And so
hobbies, right? what's what's your hobby, Mr. 97? If you do I know it's hard question. Because I think for me, the answer is my life. I just like I go to the gym, I spend time with my family, I have a business and a job that I love. And I get to do cool shit every day. And so it's like, things like where's my hobby? But then this you if you're living a life of things that you want to do, and you've created the world you want to live in? Yeah, because we all have, whether it's one you want to live in or not is another thing. But for you is there like
now I would say it's more similar. Similar to you. I don't. If I try think of like a passion outside of like work in the gym and hanging out. Hanging out with mates. There's nothing like that really stands out. It's also built into what I do.
Yeah, I think then we can start questioning. It's like a hobby thing you question? Well, do I need one? Yeah.
But then I've never understood that's one thing I've never understood is people that don't have hobbies. Well, based on my obsession, like I've got too many hobbies and fields,
but then your job is the hobby. Like we
Yeah, is what but I think that that them based out of my I think I'm like if you've got a personality that I braid doesn't isn't really into hobbies. But I feel like, for me, my hobbies absorb, you know, absorbed me,
what's the meaning of a hobby? Can you look that up? Mr. 97? I know, I know, your hobbies, but I just want to know like, it's a weird word.
Yeah. Well, I think
for me, it's what do you what do you do when you don't have to do anything? Special man.
I think that that's like,
placing a lot of people's hobbies.
If it's drawing sadness, then there's a problem. Right? If that if you just living on social media actually doesn't bring you any joy, which I don't think it does for a lot of people. Like I think it's not the equation to have
total, what's the definition for
an activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure. So later on, so
like, I really, I love it. I love what it does to me, I love myself, I love listening to audiobooks I love you know, increasing my test. You know, it's all it's all a part of it. But I think
about the testosterone stuff last night, did you win? I can't I
can't remember how you know, but I think the hobby, the hobby thing fits into, you know, I think that old model of work where it's show up, you know, stamp your ticket, stamp it out, and then you gotta go find something because the work wasn't.
That's what retirement is a weird idea. I think like 97 has more of a, like realistic expectation of or like an old let's that's the traditional things like the idea of like, you're putting in extra contributions into super and all that sort of thing, like
Mr. 97 said, Look, can we put more money into my super, and I and,
you know, you know, you don't fucking get that until you're like, 16.
I told Amy, she said, clever boys. Yeah. What I was thinking at 19. I was like, trying to fill these with hash. For the cookies. Yeah. Sorry, man.
No, but I think that that's what does everyone think of three to do? What do you think of retirement? what's what's what does it that mean to you?
I can't see myself. Like just stopping doing work. Like, especially with the last two months that I've had here. I like the fact that my hobby has essentially become what I do like day today, as a job. Yeah. Like, start in the morning. And then like, from eight to five, we're doing this one thing, but even later on after hours, I'm still thinking about stuff that relates to it. If I'm creating something that can tie in, or if not, it's influenced by what we're doing here at the show. And I can't imagine myself working at a job say till I'm like, 65. And then just stopping doing that and stopping everything that's relating to it and just coasting through the final years of my life
taking up golf. Yeah, you see that like rich people. It's a generalising. But a lot of them don't end up retiring because they just live a life that they want to live. So it's like,
when he's retired, I guess for me, it's like when maybe its financial independence, financial freedom. That's like a, for me a more exciting goal than retirement.
I want to get rich, so I can just keep doing stuff I want to do exactly. But my whole entire life.
What do you 97? What do you think? What was your? I mean, you, you know, what, what's your thoughts on the whole retirement thing?
Yeah, I think like, if you took the traditional route of like, having like a normal, traditional job, and then just stopping it, like, looking at my grandparents and stuff, it just looks like real boring, to be honest. Like I couldn't, I think I think I'd have to have something to entertain my mind instead of just doing doing nothing in going to community events and stuff. I feel like, yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean, it's been hard at that age, because you're not, you know, up with it in terms of like technology. I mean, you can make an effort and I think that's something that I would probably do, but yeah, it's, it's interesting. I'd probably be more bored than anything.
Well, that's important. Yeah. Well, I'm hoping to get a lot of leisure time.
Yeah, you need Yeah, that's part of like all the books and I'm buying. I'm like, as I get older, I'll have not retire but I'll have more time to read my books.
I think I think it's great socially as well. Like you get to hang out with with people and talk with them
retiring sounds like a nightmare for you
know, it. Yeah. I mean, some some social interactions. But what do you like?
I guess more. It depends on where it is like, what sort of environment it's in. If it's in like a like a loud with a lab environment with lots going on that I'm not too keen on. But if it's in like a room or you just like after dinner with mites or something, then that's that's something that I love.
Did you feel nervous when you first started working out of Tommy's office at the beginning?
You are definitely going to make some definitely
remember we had a little coffee. Do you drink it any drink? No, no, I did. I
did. I didn't have it. What So did you make it? What did you
do? I said, Come in. I'll meet you downstairs. It's Susie's cafe. And so we we met there. And I just I did I mean, Mr. Ronnie Stevens a funny one, because you don't think he's 18? Or he was 18 at the time I met. And I didn't think he's 18 or did you think he was I didn't really know, really care
older or younger?
Around 20 or something? You just think like you look at me. He kind of just is told to He's like, 6162 so he's he
is six one is not so you don't have six foot? Yeah, you're on the front.
But I didn't get like you might be a bit nervous. I mean, a lot of people are nervous in interacting. I didn't know what you were there for. I didn't know what I was there. You know, I don't so you just, I just I've done I throw myself into those situations just to vibe it out with the facts going on. Yeah. And we talk and we go along and we spoke about call sheet and just or enough to just go all right, let's you want to come in.
awkward thing. I think when you get I did an experiment to myself last night. Man was a squeegee was the name of office. But I know Bray was watching a video. And the content of the video was giving me anxiety similar to that of the project trying to switch between a sad storey and a happy storey and saying them fumbling through that it had that sort of vibe. Ended up like leaving the room. Like I just can't deal with it. I was like, You know what, I'm gonna re enter the room and actually realise that I don't care that it's awkward. It's fine. Yeah, it was it was all good. That's great. And so I feel a bit I feel like there's so many cases where it's like in social settings we up we create the like all the anxiety all that sort of like it's like we can choose just like I don't know what like yet the these interactions hilarious or it's strange or whatever, but like I can't as a leader I can I can set the tone based on what I want. Rather than I guess feeling like you're entering into whatever it is that's happening in front of you.
I think you're tested when you're in a relationship like this you know watching the watching thing is very common. That feeling like if I'm he wants to watch a movie, I've got my sort of thinking about what I want and how I want to feel and it's like
he doesn't want to watch a murderer documentary tonight because he'll have bad dreams Yeah,
and then but then we start crafting our world to cater to our internal feet like the reaction that we're having which is fascinating because then you just leave this comfy world doing the shit and then you fucking 40 and single
and because you haven't, and that's compromise right i think relationship is part of compromise and compromise you can learn you can grow from that you can grow and go there's other people other than me
who who does the deciding when it comes to what you watch
naturally I'm in that camp of and this is why I know this shouldn't because I've gone fact, I'm going to so I just picking what I want. My name is very very like go Yeah, I could watch that. So as you can agreeable and that I'm fucking super disagreeable in terms of just not Yeah, I want to watch the committee and so we do and so then it became why
the one hour comedy specials never as funny as what you were
hoping I'll tell you one that is and Amy and I both push back on it. So just like not we don't want to watch it together. We will like I almost I was like it. everybody's like, I want to watch it. Ellen Ellen DeGeneres is her comedy special. I didn't watch until I think this is the watch. I think this is if you like I like it. I'm gonna run with it. I like a show. But I was like, I don't know if she's a comedian. Watch. Watch the Netflix interview with what's the site David Letterman, David Letterman. Learn about her backstory. Phenomenal. Like if you just watch the show, you probably don't know this is like a stand up like that's that was where oj stand up, like, pioneered the industry. You know, lesbian. It was, it's crazy. But for any minority, right? But even just she did that for she was the first gay woman to have her own talk. Like in the early days, she got axed because she came out as gay. So then imagine what that does for years of three years of no job. Like, imagine what that would do. Like that's such fucking is so sad. That was the case. I love the storey. She tells when she sort of went off the rails r bit and sore. Ik a lady who like specialised in like the future and what's that goes a clairvoyant she was her next door neighbour or something.
Yeah. And said at the age 41. You can uh, you can have the biggest part of your career or whatever. And that's when she got the the talk show. Yeah.
And then I went and watch the comedy special that she had. And I was like, This is so clever. She's talking. She's amazing.
He's like, Stan, is it stand up? Or is it because Adam Sandler does? I thought that was a mix.
You liked that? I love that because it wasn't what I thought it was going to be Adam Sandler. Same. You have your opinions about him? He's like, Guys, that movie guys made so much money. He's gotten some funny ones. I like him. A lot of people have bad
What's your favourite? Adam Sandler film?
Say I like the one tops two kids was
so Mr. Deeds is good. Mr. days is good.
Daddy one more?
Yeah, definitely one one way he puts the stick into the spokes of the bikes. It is a trips over the
the role of Germany girl I'm watching one right now which I mean I'm usually just like we watched an hour and a bit last night a murder mystery and Netflix with Jennifer Jennifer Aniston. But right he wants to watch that. Watch it see this is the I didn't want to watch it. Watch him I wants to try. Like the best
case I had was I just showed brother trial. I'm like, do you still want to watch I
think watch it. It's fun. It's funny. There's it's an i think i think you're just if you it's the same. succumb to it. Yeah, I'm just gonna watch this and enjoy this light comedy. That's just funny.
I just I do like nostalgia. So I can play into the fact that Jennifer Aniston Adam Sandler. Yeah, they've been around for a while.
There will be comments like oh, chin. You know? Okay. She doesn't look like she didn't friends and Adam Sandler. Look Oh, he's a bit
bring on a bit of white bread. Love it. Like, I like the way enemies and the loss,
family fan favourite Adam Sandler film Return of the Zohan.
He's this Israeli hairdresser
that was an assassin and wanted to get out of being an assassin feel like a former Army. So he faked his death, and then moved to New York City and he just he couldn't tell anyone that wants to cut hair. And he loves cutting hair and like, you know, people think he's gay because he cuts hair but he's just like, no, he loves he loves chicks. And he loves cutting hair. And it's just so funny. It's so funny. He's accent he's Israeli accent
spot on spot on it.
So anyway, that's my favourite but
is it click or switch? Switch was with switch
and that was without
click click click is Adam Sandler
I cried in that movie. Did you Yeah, I've mentioned it before on the show but he was it caught me off guard when you're when you're watching a Adam Sandler film don't expect to have the same way as running off and he's wearing like the I'm like emerge like he was in the hospital and no one Yeah, same.
I've cried and Adam Sandler movie there's another Netflix one with Al Pacino. Maybe
will Netflix dad five was like five years worth of films or so like it from Adam Sandler. Yeah, so he's making
one every single year headaches waggon happy Madison Productions Tommy series I started the field. Yeah, I love it. It's um Yeah, but I mean this is just challenging your internal thinking. Yeah,
three to deal what's your default type of content that you're watching the evening? If you're I mean if it's anything to go by his quotes it's fucking just be
clapping all night. Not my guru.
Great guy feel
it is it is great. I have I have watched it. Make sense? I do like documentaries. Like I wouldn't. I wouldn't watch a documentary every single night. Yeah, I'm more of a music person.
So you would watch music documentaries. You listen to music musical
know like it's like, you know, like a music documentary. Like a band going through say how they recorded and produced their biggest album. Like there was one that talked about the Eagles when they recorded Hotel California. So I guess it was like it's on Netflix. Actually it's really good. Check it out. It's like three or four hours of like, the process of how the Eagles evolved. That sounds like the basic dead.
Like, like yeah, we talked about the licorice Yeah, I swear when we got like really nice speakers at our place. I like it when I was growing up. Dad got like an Eagles. Yeah, live in concert DVD. Yes, I can blast through the speakers. I can sound like you're in the stadium. I think I've seen the Eagles.
I remember going as in my dad took me that's a good to see. Just Yes, I must have been so younger. I can still remember Yeah, we used it was our fam The Beach Boys and the Eagles was our cassette tape, like long journey soundtrack and you know when
we listen to mushroom 70s was
covering that. Yeah, that was very sad about it. But I'm trying to think of there's a there's a there's a really good music doc. Oh, it's not aspirin. What's something like aspirin? What's it about? A little bit don't get dry. You know? It's a it's about a band. That was sort of like coming up with like Metallica and stuff like that. What is that? What's what is an aspirin? Like a brand of aspirin? And it Oh, no.
We're going to get this because it's gonna be worth
it's the bed. It's the band's name. I'm just looking to my son because he has the
g8 Do you remember
what was on just type in
type in documentary?
Metallica the I know you're not going to get it there but
and that's why heat for already
three and a half if hateful Yeah. Cookies good ones
type In fact, it's going to annoy the shit out we can finish the show. We can
now we can we actually have.
What is it called? What is Castro? You can guarantee Heron? No, Advil.
Advil? Yeah, the storey of Advil.
Yeah, the storey family?
Well, it is no it's Advil.
Advil is the drug
bill is a bank see how you use Advil? A drug as well not know Not that I'm aware of. Advil, geez, I'm a fucking
Advil is actually a Canadian band. By the way. Just throw that as in the one that I just said, Advil. The storey of his Yeah, and those are Canadian people.
Right? If you seen that documentary, you would love it.
I haven't seen it. But I'm highly influential 1982 album that would inspire the likes of anthrax and Metallica coming years
and so the tracks
is he he's in another band or is that
the damn anthrax is another band. Yeah. Okay.
Anyway, Alex, thank you so much for the cookies. Yeah, really appreciate it. We how many we got left? What
didn't count how many we had and the stout 122 and a half over here. Okay, so I had to so that's
how about we do this?
How many of these
Have you ever heard of chocolate chip?
Mason hasn't had any other than the little bit I throw it? Okay.
Yeah. Alright, so I think that we give her that Mason he gets a full one of these. Amy and Bray get a cookie age. Short. Yeah, they're supporting us. And then we've got these are the the special the grandmas Yeah. 123. We continue that. It's a daily talk show. If you've listened this far, take a screengrab put it on your Insta storeys so that we know that you're listening because we really do appreciate it. If you are on Youtube, click the subscribe button, like the video as well. That always helps. Otherwise,
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