#603 – Learnings & Leaning In/
- February 9, 2020
We chat about an email from Kirsten, filters and being more conscious in conversations, the St Kilda Festival, and RSVPs and invites.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
– An email from Kirsten
– Filters and being more conscious in conversations
– A drinking game
– The St Kilda Festival
– RSVP and invites
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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 603. happening guys what's going on? Happy Sunday weekend Banta get around it and we find out. Oh, are we now I'm fine. I'm fine. Shout out to one of my favourite cafes heritage wall. They know that where we like to sit yet and people were sitting there. And so we're just like, Okay, looks like we're not sitting there and so we sat somewhere else and then like we had our coffee and then they're like, Hey, your seats now available and they moved all of our stuff to the spot. brunch. When you become a parent is almost non existent in your life. I like it's just breakfast. No, I like even a breakfast. The whole idea is can we get there so early that no one else is there? Just in case the kid goes mad or we just need to go and it's always 30 minutes or 45 minutes. I can't say long this morning. I got in because I mean was
Taking buddy to go on the trains and so I had to get in here early. And I was like oh go out for brunch is really nice like I go out sometimes and have something to eat during the weekdays if I'm doing work at a cafe, but it's not the same. Yeah. And I'm so glad. And I'm not a part of brunch on the weekends.
You don't go to a festival. Yeah, there's a fucking festival at the cafe where I went. It was dogs. There was babies. It was parents it was men women. Everything in between and just too much. It was so much so we've found a specific bike heritage wall has a great vibe. Like we drive the 15 minutes from Collingwood, Camberwell because it's like, it's in a good scenario where even if it's busy, if we get these this spot it's sort of no one really gets it because it's a it's sort of you aren't facing the person you're with. You're sort of looking out the window. I it's like one of those sort of window seats. I mean, wow, it is it's a real you go
I can't even tell you the name of it. It's around the Nando's head office and it just looks like some kind of little corner of a year from foreigners. It was really good. It was it was not so good a little bit. Sure, but I just was like, I don't I thought I'd missed it more than I have because I haven't brunch. I agree. I think that the early like we went for breakfast later would have been like 10am and that's why you missed out. So you have to go I think 8am on a Sunday. For the crowds. Yeah, because all the people have been out drinking. Like it's just I mean, Mr. Nice Evan, who ever been out for brunch? A couple of times with the fam. Family I just heard like by yourself. I remember it was one of the things that I like I remember the transition into going to cafes and being by myself. And I think it's like when you're young. doing shit by yourself. Isn't that common? Like you like you've always leaned into that you have made so many
cafe manager friends Yeah. Oh, it's insane that Lawrence from a 79 has invited us to a cocktail like they're really not he's bringing more details to the table but he just said I got a couple of tickets for you boys who else is going? I don't know it's a paid event like you got to go. It's what is it cocktail? It's like what are we were food that is it cocktail inspired so there'll be something that you can eat these pina colada inspired or special attiny inspired I think the person will be mostly wasted on is missing I seven but that's why I want to take him to just give him some kind of experience. Some kind of food experience. Did you see the a man we got this morning? Absolutely not. I haven't heard from him to begin with.
Because it's a joint account like our height the daily talk show. If it gets opened, I miss it. Because I don't. A lot of the time I don't go in just to search, read emails. Like I'd have to you know, sometimes sometimes I do not. I get
But so I was leaving, I was leaving to go to the cafe. If I and I'm actually not fired, I
wanted to respond. And then I did and then save screen grabbed it and sent it to me. We've been trolled. We haven't had we haven't been trolled. What was a fun question. So a little bit. One thing, the only reason I didn't actually respond straightaway, was because Kirsten doesn't have a last name in the email. And so I was like, actually don't know who Kirsten is. I tried to look at the email, the email, so
yeah, so I think that Kirsten might be from Canada potentially away giving to my life.
It's actually good. It's
actually kissed and says, Hi. I heard Australia is homophobic and I'm thinking Mr. 97. Might be gay. Would he have your support to come out? May? Yes, of course. So the thing is, my initial response was I was like, you want to win
Someone gives you a feeling that you could be homophobic you want to write back straightaway. Is that what she said Australia? Yes. But also like I think it's pretty outrageous to think that we wouldn't be but then I was thinking about was like, we talk a lot about dating we talk about all of that stuff but we haven't we've spoken OFF AIR a lot about sexuality that hasn't necessarily made its way into the show. What do you just take it like? I don't really see that as that her saying. A YouTube guys homophobic is in jail. No, no. So what? So the feeling was I was like, slightly annoying us. Because I was like we have with focused on that narrative of like finding 97 my girl, which is fine, because of all the conversations that we've had, but if you don't have those conversations, I can see how it's like so sort of annoying being like, yeah, now I don't find it annoying at all. Because I like
hold true to that we've done all of that like, but we would never do this unless we'd ever spoken to Mr. Singh his office. So there's that there's that side. But then there's the side of if you're a young person who's going through, you know, trying to work out your sexuality, and you're hearing the classic narrative of people just assuming that you're going to be with a certain type. Yeah, because we haven't necessarily had that on a I think that was the the triggering point because I think she's right. Right about what I think she's writing out, like asking the question, and I was like, why, like, why is it taken her to ask the question for us to talk about that we have spoken about that.
Because it got cut it cut out of our last video that we did. Yeah. Any Was there anything else to the email? No, that was it. What do you think serves?
Yeah, I mean, it's sort of it's sort of like this interesting thing because I I probably
people wanting to know, I guess, like the details of your sexual preference, because I don't I don't think that makes the other person comfortable in expressing that or saying it.
Be I mean, yeah, having having a platform like the podcast, we I mean, we've touched on it a tiny bit, but probably nowhere near to the extent that we could have.
And yeah, so I think it's like, the Yeah, what like, if you are having these conversations, what because the thing is that you think about it in the video, like the sex intervention video that we did. It's like, there was he or she, there was all of that sort of stuff, but just based on timing, things were cut out, which then potentially made something that was way more nuanced. I mean, that's assuming that's what she's referring to.
But even that aside, if you were just to look at the content
I think that the question that a lot of people would ask was like, Well, isn't that assumption, like presumptuous to consider? Like, I think that
just letting people in on the piece of the conversation. And so that's where I'm fine about it. Because you can't just assume it's like someone assuming that someone's gay because they haven't had a partner yet. or
social. We've made that assumption. And so that was like the email I was writing, which is like, Okay, well, it's not on binary. So it's not this thing of, okay. Just because someone doesn't want to have sex. Like, it's like, the unibrow the guy, the guy aspect of it, then there's a much bigger piece in the whole sexuality thing. What do you think serves? I feel like you're very white like, your sibling, James. He is constantly educating you on this stuff. Yeah, Yeah, he is. I
yeah, it's it's sort of bits and pieces. I probably
I probably stay clear of like, engaging or having discussions about it. Because it's
I mean, my thought is it doesn't, it doesn't matter
what you are like you are back 100% whatever you do on whatever you want to be. And so, yeah, sort of like refrain from engaging in the conversation and just support them. 100% or something tells you they strike, you just believe them, because that's what they say. They tell you they guy, cool. They got it. What's the difference? really like it this time in the point in culture, it's like, there is no fucking difference anymore. Yeah, it's just what you want to tell us in what we think. And so then if you're looking at the other side of it, the same way like and that's where I don't know if you need to be constantly saying the other side like prefacing if if someone tells me the guy I'll support you, it's like, I don't know how much in that dialogue. I don't think I need in conversation, because what if it is the reality
Then that will be shown whatever that is that we support people, whatever they do. It's it's like it's like this thing where, I guess you're trying to make
potentially trying to make it the norm. And so by not expressing, by not asking the question, or sort of touching on that in all the content, you're sort of like, you know why being like, yeah, it's okay. Because we're not touching on it. It's the same as what we would do normally, if he was what if, you know if the person was straight? Well, it's like part of it is it's like because I guess what you're describing TJ is like, this is what the like, this is normal, or this is like what we perceive as culturally normal and then we're just leaning into that, which potentially is isolating. So same. If you think about same sex marriage with same sex marriage. Now when someone says, I'm getting married next week.
You would sometimes think twice about you can't just say like is the bride
I like excited like you don't know, what the what the deal is in regards to their sexuality, all that sort of thing. I think we can't be afraid of getting it wrong either if we do say that, and it's like, oh, my bad. It's like, I don't think. And it's so it's depends on where what's on the other side, if you then are homophobic and you've asked, Is the bride blah, blah, and then it turns out to same sex marriage. And then there's some, like, I just think we get shit wrong, like and so what is the look like? So what's the learning then? from it? So say, Well, you know, if now weddings and like now we are sort of a society that is more inclusive. And that doesn't just mean in regards to policy, but it means in like the language we use, but also just like the practical nature of like, a wedding isn't just between a guy and a girl now. And so like that all of a sudden changes the way you speak.
I've got like, I've got no
I understand because on the other side, I'm like, Oh, I got that wrong. That's all good. And I'm not homophobic. I've gotten that, you know. And so that's what I know, on the other side. And so if if I do based on living in a world where that that culture, like it's nothing to even say about the thought about what is being culturally normal, it's like that is shifting right. And so I think that's where you just, we got to, that's where our softness has to be given to it as well as an empathy. So what you're saying is, like, empathy to get it wrong,
which is, I agree with but there is also like the opportunity of our How can we actually change our language, so it was more inclusive, so that it wasn't necessarily Yeah, yeah, but I, I'm just trying to look at the situation with saves and the conversations we've had with him and there's been stuff on a lock I remember saying, it probably would have been easier to find you a partner.
Like we can, you know, I've got plenty guy mats that would love you. It's like, that's what I've said, like we've gone through this. And so what I'm saying is Kirsten, Kirsten. Yeah, it may have listened to one piece of our show, which is a continuation over 10 years. And so if we've got it, if she's thought and asked the question fer, Fer to ask questions, or the thing is that how do we, how do we express ourselves? That's in a way that is more inclusive? conversation? This is it? Well, no, but I think that there is, it doesn't even have to be this conversation. I think that the there's an easier thing, which is like, how do we make small little changes? So saying, Are you partner or rather than putting agenda to it?
Like, I think that that's too straight? I think it's too like, I'm not the super duper extreme end of
things, but when do we not take into account? Mr. 97, telling us that he's
Right, man. Yeah, well, I think that's where he has. And so with him, we're like, Okay. In this context, the partner, we could use term partner
is Yeah, yeah, I find that Yeah, I find that interesting.
Because I'm not homophobic. And it's a weird one to just be then like saying it as partner for you. When you were telling us that you straighten, it's a girl, but I guess it like and so then I didn't see the problem with saying that if you had the context, I think it's really important to be saying, partner, if you don't know, and you have never asked and you don't want to be saying to saying you straight you believe it. But if it's not completely binary, if like, we've got mate that
sort of identified as straight and then worked out, they'll buy or gay or whatever it is. And so if it's a like a bit of a spectrum, and it's not as binary as straight guy, all of that sort of stuff.
If 97 said, I know I'm not gay.
Does that then just assume Okay, well, we've got to find your find your girl. I think so. Is that what you've just told us? It's that's the piece of information I've received. Because you can say non binary, but like that infers that he's belief is that I'm non binary, know that it's not
gay, straight or non binary, like he could be still trying to figure out what his sexuality is. What do you think serves?
Yeah, I mean, it's it's so nuanced. I think I think using
Yeah, I think I think there's a, I guess, like a forethought around like all the labels that are used in terms of like partner or whatever. And that's like sort of a conscious effort to do that.
The automated side, what do you feel comfortable with, like when? What is the language of the conversations where you're like
And is there been any time where our conversation even whether it's making you directly feel a certain way, or think I feel like you're an empathetic person who's always thinking about how it could be perceived as well? Yeah, when we mentioned
a producer's nipples, you messaged and say, Hey, can you check with a producer? That's okay that we spoke about her nipples, and we got the whole clear. And so you're very sensitive to this sort of stuff. what's what's the sensitivities that you've been thinking over this sort of journey around dating?
I probably it's probably less of an impact for me and more of a thought around how it might impact other people. Because I yeah, I mean, it can be a touchy topic for for people and and using those labels and using terms.
Yeah, can have an impact on them and so it's just being wary and thinking about I can add
more conscious when I think about the term that I need to use to label relationship. Yeah.
Because like, I think I get where you're coming from TJ, which is like, it's easier, like from just being able to speak and come where we've come from, it can be easier using these sort of generalisations as a third language, because it's really like the idea of even like pronouns can be difficult in just the day to day conversation because we've grown up with saying, hey, and she and all that sort of thing.
But I think that it's and so I think that the idea around saying, I'm okay to be wrong in that and be corrected it because I don't have a strong like, it's just what I've gone to. And so we are we're that thing, where I say that is, this doesn't. This is a minority that I'm not here.
So it doesn't affect me. And so I'll continue to speak the way that it suits me. And minorities can tell me when they're uncomfortable, whereas I think there's another version which I think is it clear cut is that because it's like I'm that's saying that I'm not taking into account any interaction or no
noticing anything or,
and, you know, other information I've received around the situation. And so I think, I think languages shifted in that respect a lot, especially in the circles I knock about in and so it's not as clear cut like, wait, there's no heartbeat is you're not giving instructions on anything. You're just saying let's be more sensitive, which is like so it comes down to like filters. So for me, it's like even when it comes to someone who's pregnant or having giving birth or whatever
there's all these things that happen in regard whether it be
still birds or, like just there's so much nuance to all this sort of, I think if you're homophobic
you've got it, you've got your fucking belief system pretty wrong, I feel, but isn't the point here, but if you make the mistake in the situation and you are trying to be better and be more like I think this is what will make people learn right, you get it wrong like alpha. Yeah, that is I will be more considerate and referencing sort of one of these based on just what I thought and so yeah, this is what will shift and so that is what has to sort of happen. I think also if you if you have a So for instance, if you have a miscarriage or you part you know, you you go through that traumatic experience, does that all of a sudden change the way that you interact with people who are going through pregnancy?
What do you like it sorry.
You've gone through that experience. Does that change the language when you're asking people questions about their pregnancy? Yeah, definitely. And so I think with all of these different elements there is,
is it what was the name? Christie, Justin, Kirsten. So
we can not be homophobic. But our language could still potentially have a negative impact or push a narrative that is an inclusive to
same sex people. And so if we can make a really small shift, so it could be as simple as saying, partner, like, I'm gonna find your partner or whatever it is, like maybe those small things
could help a bunch of people.
I'm not gonna argue that. Yeah. Okay. But I'll still say if you want to tell me you're looking for a man. I'm going to search you. Search down a man and find him. If you tell me you want more
I'll tell you have on your word, but I think the interesting I don't know if you tell me you don't want me to find anything, I'll stop hunting and it's horrible. Anyways, but this is where it's so new once I fucking was at a party yesterday and I tried to kiss a Muslim woman goodbye and she said no no no
I read that fucking wrong.
Women with hijabs cannot kiss a man unless they family
but you would have crumbled It was the most fucking awkward situation she's like no no it's not you I'm sorry to be rude I might might you not fucking road I was obviously road it was at a power centre that's the thing I mean, you are you are
you are open. And like that's the thing where I'm like yeah, you will just like lean into whatever it is the case it was wrong. Yeah. But then it does get no it does get harder doesn't like I think it gets harder when the pressures on externally but like, but either bad thing. I reckon part of it is it's just like
You're actually like you just hanging around with different people, if you're just hanging around with
people that have the same religion, same ideologies, all that sort of thing. The shit doesn't happen. And so now as we like, a starting to mix with all different types of people and our friends have all different backgrounds, like that's the, I reckon that's like the, the exciting bit. But yeah, having gone to Pakistan or whatever and like, interact like, there is a leaning into the awkwardness of I are, what do we all get wrong? And that's what I'm saying. There's a bunch of people that are going to get wrong, and most people won't learn until they get it wrong. Yeah. And so and so the thing is that, I think that from a speaking point of view, what you're, what you're actually trying to say is like, you're happy to shift. Yeah, if that's the thing, whereas I think, potentially,
there would be a bunch of people who say, No, I'm going to keep doing I'm not homophobic, but I'm going to keep like, I'm
I'm going to keep using this system. And I mean, everybody's heterosexual. Like, I think you're gonna get it wrong Pretty soon, I think if you if that's what you're going to approach, I guess that the thing is that it's like, it's way more nuanced than that. So it's not like I know, like, you could you could say, I know, I believe, like, I know that there's date people and all that sort of thing, but just like when I speak, I'm just, I'm just gonna ask like, you know,
it's interesting. Yeah. I mean, Kirsten brings a good point, but it's these conversations that are in a meta approach that I think, bring some form of education or some learning or, or just like listening to this, like, think about so many people would never have thought about this conversation. Ever. Yeah. And so we're just in a position where we talk and we talk a lot. And so there's the journey and if we gave her every single time, we'd spoken about Mr. 97 love life.
She would have a different context. Something to say that what she heard or the bit that she heard. She's thinking that you know, but then then also is like
it's it's so it's it's fascinating. That's my
photo says drinking game. Have a sip every time Josh says leaning in or learning. I say learning a lot down. Cold dun dun dun death says dnm Sundays love it. I think the thing is the
photo life is learning that life is about learning and leaning in.
a little bit for dollars. I said, Do you actually want one? Yeah, it's been pretty heavy.
I'm out of probably only got like 10 minutes left. So I'm not gonna like it sounds like he doesn't want to get you wanna? And I'm it's getting me a beer. I be. That's right.
Let's get this guy
A pistol will be by the end of it. I'll need a spoon to sivs just to open a crack open
something else I wanted to talk to you about social media that fucking into a you leaning in, you have to drink to social media. So the pig video, I know this is what you do at brunch on a Sunday. You look through your phone that photos that you've taken a long time ago or videos, and I found one from the piggery where I was trying to spoon a pig Did you upload it and then you got your thumbnail wrong. So you re uploaded, okay, he's a learning for you guys, Sunday learning drink learning.
When you go through your camera, roll on your Apple iPhone and select a video to post on and then you post it directly through your photos, your album. So you don't go natively into the app, you actually go you shared it go click it and then go select little instant icon and then it sort of brings up the you know, discussion.
Action tag put it in press it might dump your fucking fade into the video fade from black. So it's doing
it applies of faith and
faith to everything. It's such an amateur move. Yeah. Fade to Black, which means thumbnail is black and this is an image a photo. But videos fade from black. So I had to delete it because I know fade from black guy. You know what I mean? Like, I don't want that on my feet. It was that look down the thumbnail thing is even I sort of fact in the thumbnail of the Mrs. White video. Definitely. I saw that.
I thought he's done that. I was like, I must have chose that. I'll respect well. I chose it. But I was like,
I mean, it highlighted the need for more resources because I was like, we need to just get this like we can't have everything but like I did it and I was like I selected it rather than I should have created something in Photoshop. And I was
Last time, so that was the whole, like, uploaded it. I saw it and then you look at it when you share it across on Insta stories. I'm like, this looks pretty shit.
All this time doing this video, but I'm like, you know what, like, that's the that's the game that we're playing. Yeah, don't you think it is a lane lane leaning in laning we
wouldn't drink this that fast. It's only 130 97 word for the year which is two words is leaning in. There's another one
for it good game.
They meant there was another word. No, no, no. No. Far out. So yeah, you're just posting randomly. I know she's posting randomly. I had Thomas branch. This is the thing. Yeah. This is Yeah. Post from branch. You post anything from branch? Um, no. I actually spend less time on my phone. I was thinking of Oz radio backers. Kirsten xima. Yeah, no, no, actually, I was. It was you
Find out when you got here this morning was that because I've had a lot of coffee, and the idea of going into a big festival, some sort of festival. It's a lot to me, but he's the he's the learning.
What's the lining? You have probably felt like this so many times in your life, and we're gonna have a good time. We're gonna go in, we're gonna go in, we're gonna have a good time, I felt we went to the NGV. So what we're doing today is for MTV, we're doing a takeover of their Instagram account, and we're going to St Kilda festival. We've been to a couple of other music events around Melbourne, the NGV one we did Friday night. I felt sick. I felt sick. I felt rundown that I was away a sweat. I feel like I was like sweating. But we felt great after.
Yeah, after a bit like and it's sort of even the event the events good, but it's the like we're doing this thing around asking artists questions. Right. Let's have a few beverages.
There's no rule around how many beverages I can have today. And so I need wine drink and I'll be able to have wine. Yes, yeah, we're getting media passes occur. Is that true? Yes, we're meeting someone and we probably be live if we don't head off in a second. But we're getting media gonna take half an hour to get some code in a way from how do we get there? Uber How do you plan on get what do you think?
It's a bit public trends. I didn't have a Mikey it's a classic. Well, we can buy one business we really going to get it's a cost effect to get dropped to take a car in there because it's completely seamless. We can do it.
Yeah, that's a bit.
The last five minutes I would have been if I had to trim it as well. I would have been a lot worse than I am. I mean,
why not? We got so wasted at St Kilda festival and my mate drove down to see us lift these car they came back the next morning tote. That's annoying. Well, I mean
The Uber like, that's what's great about Uber. Yeah. What else is people saying Jasmine? Carrie, hey, she says I take heaps of photos when I go out on the drink, because I forget shit that happens and exploiting how much he drinking sometimes that hilarious. And I go straight to Facebook to see if I posted them. Now I think the Yeah, there is potentially something in having a beverage but this is last year. I wasn't drinking and killer festival is so much fun. And we like it. We're not taking it to excess. We're just gonna have a few beverages. Yeah. And it's the 40th anniversary of the cinco. That's right. I think like, you're right when it's the same thing is when we went to the Halloween parade in the US. It's like it's not really like a lot of people not really my thing. Yeah. But one more there. It was good.
Yeah. What are you thinking about? Sam, what's going on? I was having more of a meltdown of this at the Halloween festival.
The new it Yeah, that was after a six day now flop.
And and we laugh like that's full on meltdown
just a lot of stimulus. Now you kept asking me how I was feeling
Yeah, I may get it was your first time in the US as well. Yeah. So you saying like SWAT cars set up You seem like it's all quiet that's fun. Yeah, there's just the people that were the stimulus. Yeah actually and also we're going to find a Halloween costume was a bit of a pain as well as be honest and then Tommy you bought something and returned it but I still pay for it was 70% off so I just left I left we I bought it and gave it back.
We walked away with three or four or five costumes for 30 bucks. Yeah, that was ridiculous. And then you were annoyed because they didn't say that you had to heat up the teeth. Oh yeah, that was so frustrating because I've bought teeth before that you put in that you don't need to heat up. I just go straight in but these were like
Anyway, yes, I like it. I'm definitely getting out of my comfort zone with this stuff because
typically, if like say there's a festival near my house, it's like, Okay, well, I know what I'm doing this weekend, not guy. You're staying inside, staying away from the crowds. But there is it's so interesting like there is a certain personality do you think was saved? I think you are that personality TJ like the you go to like I hear the beat like where's the where's that drama coming from? And then yeah, going. I mean it. Yeah. I mean, I've been listening to the festival since I was 1716. I want to actually
try to win this competition. But anyway, they let me in anyway, to the private area for Strongbow years ago, so I decided brand, sub pass it around who was saying something about cider cider that I would really get around. We were privy to that conversation tips can't remember not there was some form of it's a sours.
Almost saying are you guys would love a sour? Remember? saves festivals yeah you're no no
no it's not too many there's a festival up at the park in my house last night with a low level like just like a family kids festival
festival but just like a little kids. I don't know a dog there were too many people
what are we doing for parties birthday? Oh he's having a party in the park and some people family okay this is where we just I'm actually I'll be fine because I'm when can you just kind of wearing the easy rig in the camera just
saves in the easy rig. I'm gonna make him a birthday video. I do it every year. Did you do it last year? Yeah, I just did it. I had to say $200 rocking around. It was not been no i did the like the first one before we even were business partners. That's right. That's right. That was before we even
got the shot of them hadn't even announced it I think yet, yet. We
Just out of the podcast had Yeah, it was fab 14 and we started the podcast Jan 16.
Yeah. Wow. And so what sort of catering
they'll be sandwiches. There will be a hopefully my brother will make sausage rolls and it's real good. The cursive font in the
invite I didn't make it made it look like the first affair. And so that's why braid putting the calendar first affair
was in order something after the Yeah, it's just like the 16th the 16th or whatever it looks. He's a fucking thing with invites. No one reads them. She didn't read it properly. I sent an invite to my maze for my wedding. And he calls me on the day because he said Man, I can't make it. I've been food food poison for a while he got off a flight. So he flew from Mexico to Sydney and then literally had his flight booked to fly from Sydney to Melbourne that day, which was my wedding day. And he messaged me and said he called me 9am because he saw that
was like doing in stories and shit and saying it's my wedding day ever. Because he goes, fuck, dude, I'm so sorry. I thought you'd sent me your engagement party invite I didn't read it properly.
And so he and he's like Dude, I would affect them push through to shoot myself in the blind. Take a sip because what's the learning?
taking a sip of these p raid invites synthesis engine attached Cal. Yeah. What about I think it's actually requires a link, RSVP link I think if you were to almost like a Terms and Conditions I get definitely think that that's the way it needs to go. Because I agree this idea of just because what you do is you just thrown out JPEGs into imessages hoping that people read them. Yeah. And I
and so if you get it wrong. I was very clear on this. Actually. If it's the same platform that you sending me names through, I don't send me I don't send your family.
So people are constantly sending people on in and so people send names all the time that you can't say that the way that you send a meme is the same way you should send a wedding invite. Yeah, but listen, I don't want to knock down a forest and send you a fucking piece of carbon. So that's what I'm saying. This is what this is. So if it was a link and it clicked through way too much if it's super easy forms
of digital RSVP websites these days Yeah, of course and that's what that's what I think
I should just fucking rate the thing that you sent them. But then
how do you how do you even manage the the RSVP at that point, I just wanted to see
we don't really care who comes like just come if you can make it make it like it's not
entering people. So for the wedding, you didn't need people to RSVP yet said RSVP on. But like literally people don't braved and then you have to
Manually count the hours fake.
platform would have done Oh, and you could have seen like, Okay, great, good. If it's like, see if the person says I'm amazing, so pumped for you. Like, are they coming or not? Do you then have to write back? Hey, man, is that a yes? Yeah, that's what you have to write.
If I did it again, I'd do it via the RSVP thing for kids birthday for kids birthday wishes. Just get back to the parents. So what date is it? 16 Okay, send
me the ball because
because that was the contentious issue because I read it just read it. I just saw buddy's birthday. I was like, Yeah, perfect. Yeah, I mean, so yeah, you both can't read. So what's the cake? I haven't made it. I actually kept boy. He's gonna be brought me bought a. There's a company in Melbourne that prints you the top of cakes.
So she's got this thing in the mail that has a Cat Boy. And it says Happy birthday. Happy third birthday Bodie. And it's got Cat Boy in the middle and so you can eat it remember that shit? I yeah. Yeah. And so yeah, there's just a company you pay 14 bucks and they deliver it to your house, or you know in a business or whatever. Jim says How annoying when he said it died for some people again and then they ignore it. Can't imagine
maybe not adding an RSVP link in the group message was my undoing.
It also group messages that dumb
Anyway, let's go party this festival. I'm pumped. Yeah, you're getting paid to go.
out we already got paid
whatever, it doesn't feel like it doesn't feel we should reckon you should. You should take the money out and at the end of the night, just give it
so I'm, we're who's performing
with I mean,
headlining Is this it? I think it's public information. Yeah. Can you just look up I don't want to say because on on the on the ranch it actually said embargoed can so I can't so can you just look at a lot embargoed. This is
St Kilda festival headline acts.
Do you want the ones that you've missed? What field Ramy like was a bunch that were sad to say that yeah, it's the boggart headline but I just say Who the hell is headlining St Kilda festival Melbourne? And it starts with an eye. An eye second word ah.
And I won't say the rest. I'm just looking through all the artists I breach by their one year sick client liaison was sick. It's it's havilah Ice House. Ice House. If you found on the website, I'd have supplied 745 to 55 pm. Yeah, catch those sounded cooler when it was embargoed. Yeah, Ice House. They do good hits. Stone field. Yeah, that's a deli. And so if
live till 5:45pm It's a free festival.
Dude, it's free. It's been out for 40 years. It's the best It's so good. Be good. I mean you're basking What's
the weather like in your Why do you find out the weather serves the Is it a festival like there's going to be food trucks and stuff food tracks this sheet every sheet going on everywhere interesting fact they closed down the bottle shops can't buy like and their bottle shops are only selling singles so you can't walk into a bottle shop but you can buy single drinks from the bottle she can drink out in the back yeah that's what I'm not sure about maybe the bottle shop create like an area but they buy they're basically stopped people Let's change these but the drinking I can you know he can't just walk around with a drink. Now. There's so many areas that you can go in, like all the all the bars create like an outdoor area on the street. Yeah, because everything's closed and you're walking through
It's gonna be fun yeah I'm pass Yeah, I think it'd be good to sort of stretch good learning good Laney and finish it off
20 degrees Josh. Really? Yeah. Beautiful. Because it's quite humid this morning. All right, this baby's gonna strike through me. I gotta take place. Okay.
Anything else says, just quickly we get a review from laya 600 EPS Happy 600 episodes guys, you on your unwavering commitment and passion is so inspiring. Hope you can hope you can today take stock and be proud of all that you've achieved and engage community dynamic guests and a whole bunch of new honed and refined skills from literally daily work daily working on your craft gronk Slayer five stars actually, I think we also got a mention at someone's wedding are Yes. And if you're wondering if it was a heterosexual wedding, it wasn't a scientist was just she said she said my husband. So I'm just saying we got actually personally went
Lock the same sex marriage getting a fucking party they're more fun. I've been to too many sounds
like I've been to yet. Now they're more fun anyway ever been to a wedding? You haven't.
I wonder if JJ his wedding if he ever does it will be your first wedding.
be pretty small, nice festival vibe.
Yeah, he makes you the cameraman in the live
footage me we gotta mention at a wedding and so the wedding was it's on our Instagram. And so my thought because she said
you've got a cheeky mentioned at the wedding. I was thinking how? Yeah.
How are they listening today walking down the aisle to it's the daily talk Alexandra and Ryan Yeah, they got married in Byron, but what a magical plot and they also they took a photo 290 millimetres of damage.
Right next to the book room. Yeah. Right in George's marzi bookshop at George's mom's bookshop never been busier and busier, never been busy.
busier since we've started talking about you tomorrow. I'm actually I didn't I didn't realise that, but she's actually putting a read that Yeah, yeah. Have you decided that? No. So I was I was looking. I mean, I just quickly looked to see if I could save the daily talk show. But yeah, classic. It's
like a photo of something that was read out. It was beautifully written. But she said afrien, tweaked it. And you got to mention on one of the laws I got, yeah, but I don't think he's been tweaked. Like in the what she said. I mean, it's a book and let's say published it with
the daily talk show in the book. That would be great. And that's really nice. What do you mean the book? Well, I mean, that's like the programme. Yeah, but it's
never it's never been rhymes. Yeah, yeah, baby Spain printed. Yeah.
But they said they must have tweeted on the spot rather than writing it with the daily talk show. Yeah, yeah. No, I don't think anyone would support
and tomorrow more book club updates. We get to at least page 50 by tomorrow, guys.
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