#016 – Uploading every photo to the Cloud/

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nearly forgot the name of it. The Daily Show show you kidding me? You know why? Because last night I was watching a comedy special by Trevor Noah who hosts The Daily Show. Yeah, in America. And so I just did my head and then try to

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work at the daily talk. Show. The Daily talk

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show, Josh and Tommy, episode. 16. Yeah, it's a What is it? Tuesday? The six, six? A fab fab, my son's birthday in one week. One year old. He's and you've got his party panelists. Are you coming? Yeah, I'm coming. I said it like you hadn't replied to me. So I

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told you. I just go so I do have asked me to the fucking film. Yeah, sure.

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We'll just all fail. I want to capture that moment. Like I

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capture every other month that will literally looking at going to Tasmania on the weekend and what? And we said, No, we can't. Because we've got

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I appreciate that. Hopefully,

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buddy. appreciate what, what goes into organizing a one year old for me

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so much. My wife. She's, she's getting juice. She's like, Oh, my. She it's like it takes a lot of effort. Yeah, that's why I have been very brands in any sense. Also, you've now like the invitation sending it out it's just it's a bit so you do a physical environments. We actually didn't you should create and it was digital, so I had to take them out. Okay, you're still going to do that. It's like have to have all these interactions. Anyway. It's happening. She's bought little things for online to watch. Raise. Okay. Is it gonna be a fucking What am I describing? Anything that I'm doing either got a knife in your hand? Yeah,

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Tommy similar, but it's like one of those like vinyasa. Yeah, that you can have no opinion Okay, the kid can't even walk it yet. Well he doesn't even know it's a fucking party so why not have it at all? That's what I want to capture Do you think

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you have to have a one year old party you know myki

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personally I'm not a big fan of parties yeah birthdays like but I think it's nice it's for the parents were getting together their Wi Fi drinks family my cousins a few niggles few fruit platter. Yeah,

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we're gonna have a barbecue. So BYOB, some make sure you will be up for that enough. That was on the invite. But

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nothing was on the other than the location. Okay, but then. Yeah, anyway. And so we were just having a discussion because you were saying you didn't want me to download too much because you don't have much downloads left on your internet? Yes. I don't want to get into that we spoke about yesterday but there was a reason why you don't have any downloads. you uploaded.

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Hot like heavy. 30 fit why I downloaded I uploaded 30,000 photos. Okay. Yeah. 30,000 this is all just from your final Yeah, it was a mix it nice. I'd gone through hard drives and my phone. Yeah. And put every phone though that I could ever find that I've taken onto onto Google Photos. Which is like a cloud based

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and you were pretty you're pretty happy about these technologies fucking Have you like they've got facial recognition I can find people that I want you can just search it so I was kind of impressed by all of that and then I got to this point the other day and I wanted to talk about yesterday but we've gone into some other topics and it's it's it's super scary dude, have you heard of deep fake? No deep fake is deep

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fakes. Is this the like where it looks like you talks like like you can hundred percent you Yeah. And so

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let me let me just explain deep fakes from what I know this guy on Reddit or 4chan, one of those things he's account his username was deep fakes. Yeah. Fake. And he built this system. ever know what that looks like? It's coding. I guess that if you can say, for a celebrity? Jennifer Aniston. Yeah. Jennifer Aniston has probably been photographed, or there's an image from every angle. Yeah, it shows her face in every different angle. And what they do is they take thousands of photos and render them it's like a big

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a face. Yeah.

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So what's happening and where this is the danger is like, there's already been like gal Godot Wonder Woman is already been a porn out of her released with this rendering using the date fake program. And it looks identical. I've only seen a screenshot but in this video, like just shows a fake on YouTube. Yeah, and there's people talking about it. Nicolas Cage, I've been taking him and putting him on to girls like scenes from movies, where they just like, I don't even know how it works. You might have an understanding or so it's just like, when you have a huge amount of samples of something, you're able to interpret that. So if you have every single situation if you have them. It's the same with I mean, this is like a complex soundboard. Remember, in like the early 2000s, you would like go on a soundboard site, you could pretend like you're in power. It's a prank call. Yeah, samples. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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Exactly. And that was him your clothes. And that's really just sampling, right? It's just taking samples from all different places, and then making it easy for you to click on. And so the seas sample at scale, I guess the risk is that with everything that we share, now, people can describe your Instagram, hundreds head. And so

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100,000 plus people have downloaded this program and started doing this, like Emma Watson's been in a adult film she technically wasn't. But yeah, dude, it looks ridiculous. And so like, where it goes from, like, you know, high end, you know, pornographic looking films like fuzzy footage. That CCTV where you could be frightened by having your face rendered on to a bank robber. I think that was what Trump was trying to say, with his whole grabbing by the

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footage of that

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he was saying audio is like is he's lost his head. Yeah,

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it was his audio. Yeah, it was him. But no. But then also, there's Have you heard about the audio one, so lucky. We've done 16 podcast, so he's probably every inflection that we do. We've said majority of the words string center, nothing could be more incriminating than the squishy

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Episode 14. Very quality quality story coming from Josh. But you see, my point is you fear around. Have you got any fee because I have been pretty disregarding of that fear of the times now. My best mate, he's a skeptic,

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James, he loves it. Conspiracy Theory. I've already told the story of him thinking that it was. Yeah, yeah.

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It makes me laugh every time you think the government's onto it. But my point being he's very skeptic and I've always liked being dude, it doesn't really matter. I'm not doing anything wrong. Yeah, but that has made me so mixed with you uploading 30,000 images, which I'm probably in some of them. Me plus this new technology. It's like what are you even scared

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now? I think I like I'm more scared of the whole earth just imploding your domain loading up in you going Yeah. Like are you somehow starring in a porno porno? No. But even you know, extend it beyond to whatever it's like there's going to be way more people who are going to be targeted before us of course but also not only that, it's like

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yeah I wonder about things like when I whenever I read about North Korea or anything like that I'm like man we it'll just be dead real soon.

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And then all of a sudden you stop thinking about anything deadlines don't matter anymore like fuck it again like who needs to organize what we you know the trip that we're going to do people play D plan out very far yeah in respective what just live like a you like I've got I know people who are like, Oh yeah, we've decided we're going on a trip 2021 now. How you fucking kidding me? booked a trip to Bali couple of days ago.

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Oh. And when he going in my god awaiting Oh yeah, that's right. But is like that's that's as far as we're thinking. anybody's Hey, go. And he's Kevin. Oh, great. Well, it's free flights. You get free flights for kids up until two years old. pain in the ass. They go sit in your lap. So the crying and it's in your lap, my lap or Amy's lab, like sitting next to us? It's funny when we went to New Zealand Jetstar. Oh, yes. Yes. Good stuff. Makes thousand bucks return $250 each way. Yeah, it's, it's crazy. But it's for a six hour flight. And then we're in Bali. But when we went to New Zealand, it's amazing people on the plane, I took a Bodhi I up and I was walking through the aisles. And it was just a small plane, you know, two sides. window. Two window, you know, either side. Yeah, no, middle row. And there was a tour group from China.

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And bodies are fat, little white boy. Yeah. And we're wise. When we were on the plane. He was exceptionally fat at this time. Yeah, so it looks like this little white border. And he was in this cute little outfit. This made him look like a real baby. Yeah, blue little tight, Tigger outfit. You that's I love that. Oh, yeah. After him. And he was wearing that. Anyway. They this one guy was like, Can I hold Are you didn't say that. Yeah. couldn't speak English. And so he he grabs and it just erupted. There was a it was like, 20 of them all. Just like

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taking photos. Nice to have that connection. I walked off in that moment. You could be a content just be like, No, you can't hold it. I love the idea that you just like. Yeah, sure.

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He's a rock star. And he loves attention. And then we got off the plane picking up our bags. And there they were. Again, same thing are all getting selfies with him. What do you do?

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Exactly? Yeah. Wonder what's that? What's the equivalent? I always feel weird where I'm in like Southeast Asia or something. I get real snap. Happy. Just taking photos of people. Maybe that's the equivalent. And what have you done with it? If you've incriminated the now on the internet on Google. You know what, this makes me slightly nervous. I am I took all of these photos. I took on like, took photos, put them on Flickr, put them as creative commons license, which means that people can can use them and they just have to credit me but there's so many photos I've taken. I don't know if I was clear enough with everyone that like it was Creative Commons. So if you type in my name and go into Google Images, this hate to photos that are of me, but photos that I took really and it's articles like knowing to shut up and it's like, it will have like a photo that I took if someone with like a bit type on their mouth. And she had a

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surprise minority

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type on Yeah, has that vibe. So it's a little bit the Creative Commons things a bit interesting. Have you ever what is there gone any further than that? Any? I've had people reach out to me and say, Hey, I saw you in this article. Josh like old photos. Yeah,

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but outside of that, I said this, this movement online, and I know you're aware of it around the drone laws. Yeah. So I bought my drone long. I thought it pretty soon. Like as soon as the maverick early try and do it early drying, I'd say and I went pretty hard flying is from the start. And it was around the time without was still establishing half of the laws. Yeah, for drones. So

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they weren't necessarily establishing the laws. I just hadn't been good at clear. Clearly communicating. Um, yeah. It was

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super unclean website of the governing body. Yeah, horrible. Now, there's an actual app that you can see where you're actually allowed to fly and all this stuff. But anyway, there's. So there's these groups. DJI is like the leader in the creators of drones. And there's a heap of DJI Maverick, which is the top of drawn forums on Facebook. But then what someone's then going down is creates, of course, DJI Maverick in brackets. Know, sheriff's so this this movement of sheriffs, they're basically keyboard warriors. Yeah, that's if you are flying in a place where you're not mentally you'll get high. If you've posted on the DJI Maverick page. You'll get hounded by these sheriff's who are just like I'm reporting you. I'm gonna do you reckon their deal is to come from like real care and safety and they lie. So there is some of them?

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Yes, they are certified, which means they're kind of like you guys ruin it for the people who have spent five grand and getting a license. Yeah. So. So there's the DJI Maverick. The DJI a maverick shares page

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know had a guy reach out to you recently Yeah, he

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reached out to me informing me that he'd been fined for flying a drone in this spot and then you found an old a message from it like yeah

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this persisting guy

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so there's like I think it's like people it's it's becoming a massive time waster that people are like oh I'm gonna contact this guy about his drone footage and tell him that you know

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i nice I get a life seriously but so on the DJ is sheriff's page no sheriff's or the one that we're sorry no sheriff's allowed page so it's like lose people flying drones every It's awesome. And they they told that one guy posted about this page and let me I'm just finding it I know this is this is what you don't like. No, this is what you don't like. No, no, but it just adds to it. So it turns out there's another forum called Australian UI v certified operators Sheriff so out

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so it's basically only sharing okay

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there's only sheriff's it's people who sounds boring

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I've got there I can license and they're coming after people and the reason it was on this no sheriff's allowed pages because there were outing them it's like we found another Sheriff here is

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follow anyway. So I clicked onto this Australia New FAA certified operators 456 members and I pressed join yeah and it prompted me with this asking you to do you're going to find your flat three questions yes. So what I want to say so please answer the questions from the admins it helps them review membership requests and only they can see your answers the first question do you hold a ra PL or equivalent license for an over two kilogram drone? I said yes I don't Yeah sure. The second are you located in Australia yes that was ensure this is the third one is it wrong to get a sausage from bindings with a drone

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even in Australia there was a guy who got a heap of publicity for flying a drone from his hot tub to bindings where they have the sausage sizzle yeah and the paybacks for a sausage in a in some white bread and he got it attached to his drone and float back to his hot tub and it it was all a bit of a yeah we didn't happen like that yeah you know cat together but the guy got you know basically a case against him from yeah it

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wasn't it wasn't crazy like when you think about how much people kick up a fuss it would have been like a small fine well the headline read man potentially

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find eventually find a $9,000 for flying he's drawing allegedly he got fined $900 yeah I would pay $900 tomorrow to get publicity for a great idea like he had Yeah you do love publicity that

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that rancid is it wrong yes and I got in

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wonder what would happen if he said no that's

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what I was thinking

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I should I know I don't want to do it because I don't want to over the sheriff's on to me we've got another Noah got another Noah

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seriously what I get it like this there is going to be an incident where like it's already applied drone was being flown in the Heathrow Airport and smashed into the nose of Arab yeah that's not good I mean there is a level of logic right

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yeah it's like I just know I really I understand the like you I you we do need the laws and I like stick by them where I don't I'm probably Lusa is as long as I'm following Casa which is like the

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Aviation Services Israel. Yeah,

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as long as I'm following their stuff. So it from a safety point of view? Yeah,

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the National Parks ones and shit I'm less fucking worried about. So Kassar are the company that will find you for smoking in an aeroplane toilet interesting and they're the ones that will find you if you fly your drone over Chair of the festival Who the fuck can't go without a CV whom they like the fact that they say that every Sam Newman nice someone to classy who was a there was also the same Newman esque

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celebrity that got caught trying to bring a knife onto the plane to remember that I feel like it was like Rex hunt or something he probably had raised it to fishing I am actually are efficient there was there was someone who was trying to prove a point so that tried to smuggle and I from the lounge this was like me like early 2000s, just after September 11. So not the best idea made. Yeah. What was an idea? Have you ever done anything where you've potentially got in trouble at like an official thing? Like an airport ever said that you would I feel like you could be a bit loose and scare me i

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know i i'm i'm reserved. They like it. You know the how extreme it it's like walking through customs. You can't feel I don't feel Yeah, I have film just before getting into customs is probably the chasing down the

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I feel like you are actually pretty pretty good with all that stuff. I like

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to apply logic to the shit that's the same as the drones stuff. So Don't be an idiot. If the drawing falls right now. Is it going to kill somebody? Because it's 100 meters near? It's going to land on

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your head? You never let me play with your drone. I remember. Sorry.

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How about you tell people about the first time you didn't even own a drone you borrowed Hey

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Matt. Can I borrow this guy's drone? What did you do with the drone that you borrow? Whoa, just like day two I flew it up really quickly and didn't look above me and hit some power lines in it smashed down and by

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how much was the driver I was like three three grand so I had to add to get it i don't i don't blame my drone at for the simple reason if I don't want to be in an awkward situation with a friend now because I've nearly crushed it I haven't crashed it yet but I've nearly crushed it and I know how easy it is to crash yeah like even though they've got like avoidance technology on them It's

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all mine had all of it every voice it just didn't have it above the one like that's where the propellers that has the goes out yeah

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so the the castle what else is interesting about them is the opening an investigation so for them safe I say you flying a drone yeah and then I see that footage and I'm like that's the legal and I want to open investigation against your I've looked into this because I wanted to say if anyone could happen investigations into anything I've ever done yeah they cannot open investigation unless they have sufficient evidence of you flying it yeah because footage is one thing but then seeing you with the controller yeah

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you could just say I was doing it with a really long stick

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they wouldn't know yeah and so you need a photo of you or a video of you actually taking it off in these areas that are legal I wonder

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if that would be legal like you know how we've got limits around flying and how high can be

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what about like a 200 made a stick now the so there's think this blanket rules when it comes to this stuff forever that idea I had for a video where I was going to fill a bunch of

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condoms an idea for a card number and fill a bunch of condoms with helium and put like a GoPro yeah at the bottom of it and it be on a real strings that's like a drone yeah condom drawn and why did you look into it could you not do it No I mean look into that specific space and I think it easier anything in the air you especially if you can't control it Yeah, like a helium filled condoms. Not much control over that story. Said the Yeah, I think this blanket rules it's like you just can't

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Yeah, I was just gonna change subjects into you put out the Briggs video. I

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was just wanting to talk about YouTube in general, how you'd like to. So you want to 100 hundred videos this year challenge? How many have you done? 10 minutes? 11. I will have more than likely see this week. How are you feeling about it all?

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It's it's hard. Because I think the like how big video is, is what sort of the barrier is we start thinking they need to be of a certain size. Yeah. Or like a certain quality. Yeah, and quality meaning just not footage wise, but like, quality of the story or something. Yeah, there's like, some of the videos I've made that have been small and Quicken off the cuff of work really well, but that

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it's almost like lack, right? Like, there's, there's, there's an element of what if it's really easy, sometimes it's like, Okay, well, that was like a we can get excited about it and realized actually, that was just while we didn't plan that one. We got lucky with that one where it's like, it doesn't mean that I find that sometimes that will happen where I'm like, Fuck, that was easy. I didn't have to do much work. I just started talking and was because everything worked out where it's like the topic was the right topic, all of those types of things. But the I guess the ethos of 100 is that the more you do the luck you'll probably get yeah absolutely yeah i think that that's that's luck in general right? It's like preparation meeting opportunity

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Are you

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are you finding that you're you're saying video making filmmaking all that stuff in a different light now that you're doing this

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it's more around the personal brand stuff Yeah, so attaching somebody to a video it makes it easier but it's more people connect more with it. It's more into it's interesting to say I went to this party on the weekend engagement those heaps of people there are a few people mentioned the videos but I was like all the views uh, probably just this the people within my circle I grew up with that are still watching like so many people know my wife Amy

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because of the videos and never made a

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just like I feel like I know you Yeah.

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And so the brain tissue goes into my old work because she's working with the founder and yeah, they're like our Bri I feel like I know you blah blah blah. I see you on Instagram.

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The internet is breaking down and so Amy was confused on the weekends like I don't know if I've actually met her and I'm like now I'm pretty sure we have then I asked the girl Have you made any she said yeah but then I can't remember where it might have just been online? Yeah I met

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nine drop Cogan yeah bumped into Cogan, the guidelines Cogan calm, we I grew up with him and Amy never made it. Yeah, and I hadn't seen I hadn't seen rules on the knees. And he and he's like, to me, I was like, oh, Rosen, this is my wife Amy. And he's like, I think really awkward is that I I feel like I know you I say I say not your videos. So funny. There's like, Dude haven't seen for a long time. My wife

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perspective like the It's funny how like, I think about it. Like, I feel like I know a bunch of people in Melbourne. Do you feel the same way? Yeah, yeah. But then and I think that we can trick ourselves into thinking that we know heaps of people, but then if you go out onto the streets like what 100 ad like most people we will pass we might know. Yeah. And that's like, we live in this world where we trick ourselves our minds into thinking like oh man to small world, we know these people and like we know Falco and like, no one's watching our show. Elvin verse. Sydney. There's like a I think there's a lot more

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I think it's easier to know more people in Melbourne. Yeah,

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well because it's not as scattered like Sydney has its pockets

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and you know you're Yeah, you're probably not gonna know great deal of people. Yeah. from the east bond. I yeah. And so Amy like fascinated by me and the people that I know and all the schools I'm in touch with and like yeah groups we hang out with she's like it's kind of cool I wish I had that but then we didn't have bought with our bond I bet

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then it's the other thing too is if I go into a barrack or endeavor he'll hills there's a good likelihood that I'll bump into someone that I went to school with or that I know and I guess that's part of the effects that you're saying is because you're in a city like because you were a bit more in a sushi you're sort of still playing in your it's like you're living where you grew up? Yeah yeah

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yeah so if you grew up in the outer suburbs a new movie and you know

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if I'm not moving to the outer suburbs yeah

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because I know that if I if I go to fucking fountain gauge safety I mean yes a few people make the snap the amount of people wearing snap backs at fountain gate I took mine off because I was a bit embarrassed boy What is this thing I didn't even notice well just because everyone was were like everyone looked the same and all of a sudden I felt like I was fitting in I didn't feel comfortable about that it was

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a complex about coming from the burbs

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know I don't know but I just felt like I was like ah, if I'm looking at all these people with snap backs and I did I was just I got a bit self conscious just like a year ago I don't know I think it was um

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how do you dish I think it happens whenever you normally when you travel yeah when you travel and you start like I was thinking about how Europe trip my brain now you and may be going to Europe

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but I was thinking I don't think I'll wear a hat you stick out like those balls What if you wear a hat yeah yeah exactly exactly because I said it's a little bit sort of American culture American culture you saw could be Jim interest good and Todd vs dia boo boo glasses blue eyed German yeah

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I totally do so but I was thinking of just simplifying my wardrobe but going a bit more euro I don't know what that what does it mean to be more your ID think phila shirts

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now is that I it depends on where you going

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yeah you

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easily able to visually like

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interests so well and what what like so it's just like pants like loafers and like low fino loafers cool

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cool

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shoes

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you fucking kidding me boat shoes on cool both physical a fucking kidding me I'm machines on

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where you are. If you're in the Phantom guide life is probably out cool. snapback sir obviously cool. But if you're in Paris, you slip on very fucking rabbit for around the foot. Yeah, that's real cool. Paris man that I wanted to just see to the cafe long lens just filming. Everyone walking,

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walking past the suave as mother fuckers. Yeah. What pants shirts is linen fact. And shirts. Girls Just dress so well. It's crazy. And everyone's wearing like Gucci shoes. So how do you do it? I've had a few re brands in my life. Have you ever? Actually that's a fun topic. re brands. Have you ever had a rebrand

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as in? You know, Amy? She rebrand me so I'll say I need a whole bunch of new clothes. And she buys me a whole bunch. Like I feel like I've got less dag is the use of going on. Maybe it's because of me yeah but I think I've like been willing to try and three quarter payments

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you should try you would look nice in shirts. Yeah, I can't be fact when your shirts they annoy me I just like that could be made. Like you probably charge like double. I'm serious. Yeah, it's funny.

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Just tracking still charges a lot. Yeah. Creative like shirts over t shirts. That's my thing. But it's to show shirts over t shirts is very Nickelodeon. Yeah.

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Which is fine. But now the rebrand stuffs interesting because you know traveling want to travel light. I was saying to break Tell me if you think this is outrageous. She thought it was I said to her we should get our backpacks early. Because we're going to get backpacks for a trip yeah i was saying like for the last month or before we leave she should use that as a main backpack to get to work and she's I'm not fucking wearing my huge backpack to work every day or ability for the way our big backpack to

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work but you get the idea you've done the backpacking now I stayed in a hostel in Florence

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yeah and the thing is when i doing fucking hostile we're gonna do like hotels and shit but I just don't want to be having a fucking roll like going through a couple stones in Italy

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that's every every person yeah

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so many people using that way what they using what

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oh, having roller bags like it's fucked

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you it's achievable. Now it's fucking four months you don't want to be doing that shit right? But the thing that I'm not sure on ease my equipment so I'm gonna bring my one dx Yeah, I'm done or wanting to do with my Fs seven. Don't know if you want to buy it off me.

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But yet I'm trying to work out the best best approach like do I put a fucking eight grand camera just in my fucking backpack? I guess I have to because you're not going to put it I guess I'll have like an internal bag that goes in the backpack it will have to look into my it's that that that's what annoys me about traveling it's having to take shoot well i think it's the thing is I want to travel as light as possible because the biggest trips I've ever done have been for work where I've been taking camera gear and I've had 25 kilograms just carry on you fucking tripod in the check

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exactly like it

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we're gonna mention the squeegee every single now 1414. It's been the daily talk show everyone I'm Josh sets Tommy and you can find us on the YouTube and stuff like that. And make sure to subscribe to us as well. Whether that's on iTunes or pocket cast or cast box wherever you listening. We'll see you tomorrow. Bye guys.