#009 – Don’t touch my magic wand/

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The Daily talk, show your show and tell me every time we say that we're trying to say it without sounding like we said last time. I said,

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Well, I'll never say that again. Welcome back. Yes. Another

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every Friday the 26 public holiday hot issue where we are. And we're up to episode nine. So we're doing well. Yeah,

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because we started them on a Tuesday. Yeah,

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it's very, it's very data out there. Like there's no one around. Um, I went out for breakfast, Ilya, where'd

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you go

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breakfast the US and listen I got in a situation what happened and I felt myself like I felt myself over power this person who was working there and then I realized that probably shouldn't have gone that has it's the split bill thing so I was wondering how much I fucking night two nights I wanted to pay for my thing the other guys we're gonna pay together yeah and so it was really just doing two transactions finally wanted to buy 17 max yeah and she said that there's no split bill I said I will we don't have cash on Friday and I have to do it and she's all will weed and I said well look I'm just paying for this so it's seven $8 yeah and she said well here's my card and I just kind of facilitated it and she was so awkward about it and I'm and I got her there and I paid for my $17 and it wasn't that hard and didn't need her to put up put up

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that front Why do I like it I don't think that there's any reason to do that

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well there's another place Pavlov's duck these are all in Collingwood and might blew up didn't go back for a year to this joint went back Elijah I split bills we split bills was a sign really say like

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it is just yeah maybe some systems make it hard Cheerio was fucking great that we went to in Richmond to that this morning no problem at all this is like the

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what's what's a system where you're being the honesty system

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yeah honesty policy is the producer from the bedroom judges, judges housemate otherwise known his girlfriend

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Yeah, the honesty what was it Bri

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on? honesty policy? It's an honesty policy it's literally like you go up at the end and tell them what you had.

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Okay yeah

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so the honesty I guess could be could say you could not tell them that you had bacon and so when

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they come out of it when they take your order where they What did they do they put it down to obviously organ like to organize they write it on paper? Do they

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write it down? A fact

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Who cares? It's a boring story it's a weed process like do they sell it as St system maybe thing it's like I ran on this we do this system that's like really honest but really they fucking keeping track of this shit

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yeah and I'm sure they are like it's just a big social experiment that's the fraught with unknown I've ever worked in cafes, never worked in cafes. And it's well Dan do you have to do that in Sydney bond Diabate really I felt

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like it was because I've always had like a profession I mean, it's not working in a cafe wasn't my goal. as a as a

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you know, I hadn't done training to do it. I did for my personal training course became a PT had a studio. So the whole thing was, it was an ego bashful emails. Like, I wouldn't do this in my hometown. So I'd feel like if someone saw me there, and because everyone knows you as well. But there's no shame in it or not. I know, I know, there's not. But for some reason, and I don't think like this show. I felt like that then for me, because I come out of a job. And then I was I was working on radio,

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and then now we're in a cafe. That's how I how did you I guess, you go one of two ways. You way they go really, to really good job, good job of your job, good job of the job, whatever.

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Or you say, fact this is all belie me and you get a bit shitty. Where did you sit? I definitely didn't think it was a lot of me when I was in terms of doing the actual so but yeah, probably the wrong use of words. Were you good or bad? Did you put in a lot of effort?

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I think I was good. I think I did what was required. And it's amazing that in those I mean, it's not there's a bit of pressure in some of those roles. But a lot of the time you making toasted sandwiches and stuff and there's still the all the elements of where you know, when you work in a big business. Yeah, it's like, Hi, what cafe. My point of saying this is, there's all the same elements of working in a big business pressure,

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like people will try to micromanage you people trying to manage the way you cut a piece of cheese. We're talking about this the other day, when I bought my camera about camera shops, the people that Yeah, the people that worked and that's another thing. So the people that are attracted to working in cafes and stuff for extended periods of time, they're of a certain type. Yeah. And so the camera shot people, yeah, the camera shot like, you've got the frustrated, creative, you've got the tech geeky one, you've got the student just trying to, you know, have a job and seeing them and you have all different levels of ages to in that round. And you can just tell that it doesn't, always doesn't always make say I was the personal trainer. You you.

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You describe a PT that was made like, I feel I fit into one of those characters. What were you What was your personal trainer

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because you didn't know me when I was a bit cocky. And sort of a bit sort of loud, alpha

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or anything. Anything's possible. If you put your fucking mind to it. A bit of a positive punk that you just want to punch in the face.

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Is that where you're like,

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I don't think I was talkie or not even code. Just I know it's the positive punk that you want to punch in the face is a great explanation for personal trailer.

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It's true it like fact, like I just

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because the thing is, anytime that you're paying anyone for anything, which is a very hard way to live your life because I just feel a bit I get a bit funny because I'm like, Look, the reality is that you're doing this because I'm paying you and you're saying the things that will hopefully retain me as a customer. Yeah, I mean, there's that there's some of those, and then some that are really passionate about actually helping people and they're few and far between. But I was definitely young what, you know, the you had to mix the business with it as well. So you kind of and then you're getting pissed on the weekend. So you totally out of alignment with the product you're selling. I sell health, but then I disregard my health a lot of the time. And I think and I I'm glad I'm not in the industry, because I like to the to the weekend it's gone. It's gotten pretty big as well. The PT and just Yeah, I did my course when I was 17. What organization did you do? Australian Institute of fitness. I kind of went out and have come back here. And I don't know if they went anywhere. But maybe just more crowded space. Yeah, I heard right

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as I do and and stuff.

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And so I heard her ad on the radio is a key. And I call that I was I was working for my old man. And then I was like, I need to do something else. What does your dad do again? landscaper, and that's right. Yeah. And so I called out and I was like, you can do a course at 17. So I

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did it. Not knowing anything about the industry doing the course from start to finish it wakes. How much do you actually know by the cycle? Really? Yeah. I mean, here's the thing you and I

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always like I've mentioned my mom's a yoga teacher. And she's had a problem with these quick courses and stuff. Yeah,

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but she did, which I did. But you get your core, you get your degree, and then you develop and then you can get the hands on knowledge, which is what I did. I started and he was Yeah, but the problem is that there's collateral damage because you when you're learning, it's like saying, you know, you do this really short course and you become a driver. You're not really good yet, but you'll get there and you're a fucking taxi driver. And you putting everyone else at risk.

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I guess it's the same but hey, it's I've got my boat license and I can drive a boat that is huge. 40 meters long. Or maybe even more I can drive on with something. It looks up

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and I have no idea really couldn't do legally. Yeah. Could you drive the spirit of taxi? No,

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I don't think so. I think there is a limit the limit but you can't drive commercial vessels. But my point is you can if you hate

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I enter the coal you have this man this is to do everything right is

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Yeah, I have completely Change of topic which I just thought of. For best birthday party you've ever had. Ever I've got to get a kid like which one sticks into your mind our man I did everything from the go kart party. I was pretty spoiled. I think you know, in that way.

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Like my mom and dad really allowed to sell juul let me do that. So jumping castle, you know, grade seven

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beach beach volleyball set like indoor volleyball seven I feel like you would have been too cool for jumping castle

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sorry Did I say you seven grade seven I mean seven nicer 70s all

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but I tell the story about the magician know I had a magician and why maybe eight yeah May I want to find this guy's name? Yeah I don't want to confront it What happened?

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What did you do

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the rabbit all these tricks and knickknacks and he got me up in front of everyone and he was doing this like one and a wandering and fall like in fall apart really wonky and that was the trick it's like oh when he has it the one goes hard and when I haven't

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but he gave it to me I grabbed it I press the end of it when had what are we talking about

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the magician's one

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but it was one of those things you press the end of one day

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but here's the thing so I full them and I worked out how to do these little magic trick any grabbed my hand so how many squeezing squeezing right now he's doing squeeze my hand

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maybe not in fact you should don't you do that

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all it always so distraught

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you would be what a punk though you're a punk too, because he was probably like, the thing is that if you were the same age, you would have our alpha at him like you would have been made to him. So he was sort of the only thing that he had was that k was 35. And you were right. But the way we actually had jumping castles in year 12. As like a going away. Did you What was your mockups?

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Sorry to bring it up with Did you go to the mock up anyone else's mockup dam you weren't like a totally type of deal was working well yeah you're good man. You've been worth making money making the raising you can have breakfast in the morning

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the jumping castle at mockup day they to be you need basically adult like ones that can work with adults right because it's like you have your heavy Yeah, the thing is that the only jumping castles for adults that they had at the place they rented from had big Cox on them like inflated Cox

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so they actually if you looked on the side, you could say that they had like ropes cocktail,

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obviously, it was discounted. Well, you would think so. But yeah, I thought that was really funny is

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I went to a friend's 18th birthday party. Yeah, at this club. And I knew what the club was. And most people they didn't know what the club was. When where was it wasn't on it on secure the road. Yeah, no. Pain highway. And it's like a big silver building. And dark windows looks like a nightclub. Yeah, it's a sex club. Really. Swing is leather. Baby. Baby is a leather. Leather. Leather. Leather ladies him. So like. He's a thing. My friends. parents knew the owners of the cloud. And could you tell did have a smell? Or? My brother told me about it growing up. How what's the age difference between unit for night between middle knowledge elder.

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Right. So I used different Yona

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so he told me because he's mate went there

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yeah and I can get the he told me details about what goes on in there. So I knew all this stuff as a kid really look around. And I went in and I asked one of the bounces in there so so what's this place normally just running a bit Oh, it's just a glove jet and he said, You know the magician I

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know but on the wall were like obviously frames be that were hung up that had been taken down. So there's like things but you could tell that there was

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going to be lost lots of images on the wall. And I could imagine what the event is

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how, um, what what has been the biggest shock going from being a young adult to an adult like what has shocked you the most about adult hood having to pay jst

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like as in your your bass, and oh, yeah, like doing as a company back to knowing the attacks is interesting, isn't it? You don't really think about tax much as a kid. Yeah,

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I mean, the admittedly I was into it, because I had to be because I had my own business from really young. Yeah,

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and so but when you're young versus now is such a different game, right. Like, when you young, I was just the loosest unit going around,

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just like had no idea. I had no sense of what like what it all meant. And I still feel like I'm only scratching the surface. Well, and then I remember doing it all on pipe and now there's programs like the evolution theologies might made it simpler.

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I think I couldn't be more fact writing out and going through receipt books and will surely surely we going to get to a point where we just don't need receipts at all. That's all like, you think if you're doing a fucking credit card purchase, surely they can attach that receipt to it. Like, why even have a receipt?

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I know well, if you've made the purchase India credit card or you are account you should use a transaction record. So technically, you shouldn't need to keep anything they need to have a receipt that right

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I can't say for lunch offset. Yeah,

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I take photos of everything. Now. Throw them out. And then yeah, it's I paid I just turned on Apple Pay, like with

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my iPhone and you're loving it. Or what's the Yeah, it's amazing. Like, don't watch I still get people like when I use the Apple Watch. I always get smartass comments and I'd like to say yeah, hit the futures now so you press one button Yeah, turns on you I press a double tap

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Yeah. Now you can pat and I can pay a little photo it's got a little image of you can say number they can you say you say like the last four digits I'm guessing Yeah. And then you just hold your watch on the thing yeah

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and he but what I was thinking is it's like that novelty would have existed with just other currencies right like when they went from coins having knows it was it was their only coins that sounds dumb of me but there was there or maybe it was just maybe I'm wrong but I would have assumed that like it was a standard

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Oh yeah. Yeah.

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And then they would have been like fuck it let's like let's have paper which references that

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yeah and so they would have a PayPal going

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What do you got there? Like the fascination

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it's like when you get a first $10 like the new $10 yeah I showed I was fascinated when you first did it It feels like I feel like a blanket when I do it but my I remember clean the floor you stand back everybody didn't make a big deal being annoying thing is doing it and drive through you know like just look at you fucking China rage and obviously it's not like it off your watch yet to reach over there haven't haven't the when I was buying something the other day I used a card that I never use. I didn't have the pin and do you how quickly do you like can you get into a hot sweats quickly like Do you ever get into a point where Leiston I feel this I feel like that I've I get it in a big way when I was in the queue and then you look so I was there I'd been spending I've been like going back and forth on price and trying to squeeze which I hadn't done for such a long time but it was a decent size purchase I wanted to get the best price and it came to pay and I hadn't used the card in like forever and yeah I put in the thing and said oh sorry that pain wasn't right oh my god okay and then you just just like going through I'm just like if I can after all of that if I can't walk away with the camera I'm gonna be so pissed and I just felt that was it's the same equivalent it's the same feeling is you're on the plane going overseas and you realize you forgot to call the bank which you were talking about yesterday

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it's yeah i mean you have a bit of leeway but like that's constructing the hater at that or it could you could call it somehow called somebody's gone to the bank when I

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worked out it worked but it was a Citibank and then I have fucking

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banks around one bank yeah

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but the what sort of what was the amount are actually here's one how much how much did your parents spend on you as a kid for like Chris for birthdays Christmases? I can't remember because it wouldn't change like remember 50 bucks 10 years ago 2520 years ago was a lot different than what did your parents teachers about money what was their relationship with money How did they speak about it I

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think they had a good relationship but the honest thing is I can't remember maybe and so that might mean that I didn't we weren't aware of that sort of shaded by like you know I always like my mom used to help me with my tax stuff and so she had an understanding my dad new numbers he you know I used to watch him quoting jobs and using like this be Juju Juju Juju

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really town it's almost like a receipt like a It looks like

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a receipt machine calculator to end so it's spitting out the Asians wow and he would do that to quote jobs because I'm sure a residential commercial landscaping everything yeah

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pretty you know he knows a lot about plans easy genius reliance you don't really have any plans you have to my dad my parents place like my family home fact that that guy he'll be able to tell us a bit about plant can he get good prices on plants or you can get wholesale so

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on Saturday until I got into indoor plants I don't think so. There's so many competing wholesale we have now

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they just rock on wholesale warehouse.

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What the fact it's not wholesale. Like it's for everybody, then. Yeah, so it's like a selling point. It's the same with discount clothes warehouses. It's just they selling clothes. Yeah,

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it's always I find that the saddest sale I'm ever been to was the Dick Smith sale because I literally had a liquidation yet administration or whatever, they had the sadness, we'll see seriously the set the they didn't have, they weren't wearing uniforms. And it probably was like temp staff that just came in that was sort of part of the administrators to come in and sort it all out or hide through them. But they they were just selling everything like they were selling the security papers at the front that prices on them now Shall we was this this was this would have been Hawthorne. And I was just like, I went in there to actually find if they had something, right. Like, Oh, you got I'm looking at this looking for this cable. And they literally just had like old iPhone cases. And like bits, like shelving and should like it was really sad.

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How long was the sale on for lucky I didn't. I would have gotten the tail end. It was probably like the last day or that was the other thing that the most depressed about this. No lights on. It was not

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swear it was dark. I don't know like what the deal was. But I think they had like a temp lineup that there must have been patched out. But they've been cut off. Powers gone. Everything. I guess they're like, okay, we need to do this at the cheapest thing possible. It would be sad, sad time. Yeah. Do you know Dick Smith was selling?

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What was it? Cheese? Really? I'm pretty sure at one point I do you like at

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at the experimental electronic statistics, man. Yeah. And the case

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they did what they did. So that was something is Dick Smith, I think sold that home to Smith electronics brand years ago. And so then he'd been in tool. The Australian made shit like the Australian main Tim Tams.

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peanut butters. Pretty good. I was still I still get that.

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Why don't we have a peanut but like chocolate and peanut butter is a real thing in Australia. Like, what do you mean in the States? It's like, so common that if any way you go you can get chocolate and peanut butter together. Yeah.

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And then and jelly. So that

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that as well. like peanut butter and jelly. But peanut butter and shot like wide to wine? Australia? Don't we have peanut butter? m&ms?

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That is a good point.

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Do you know why? Tried to um, I went through this stage of really craving Pop Tarts had never had them before. At what age 22. Your mom was. Was just depriving you of not well, I just never. I couldn't. Yeah, I don't know why. Like, there was just never a thing. Right. But the thing is, I contacted USA foods, which is new harps office and they said are you can't um, we can import them because there was cow hide that used in the product like the gelatin e type stuff.

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So I went on this big theme I don't know if that's right. So I was like, calling like customs like I was doing all of this research to go to them like you guys are wrong, you can get them and I remember I found a there's a place in Melbourne central who must have been just importing them illegally or less didn't give a shit and

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I had them it was just such a disappointment with one can't remember which one but they sat in there they they just said you know I'm covered just didn't. I was obsessed with them. You know, you can buy in the supermarket. Now we're in the wholesale market. Really, in the in the fucking, I'll wear this cereal is you can buy like three, four or five different varieties. Mm hmm. I just sell the marshmallow ones. And the thing is that because that's all the shit that's like cancer. So whatever. That's the interesting thing about California. All the everything soon, if I can cause you cancer, and they have to put it on all those signs. You know, like, you go into that if you go to a bar, it will say the some, this venue has carcinogenic material, blah, blah, blah. Same at Disneyland and shit. They've got these signs everywhere. It's like regular. And so if you've got alcohol, there's some studies that says say that is they cause it's a real thing Disneyland

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and I met a guy

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who just recently who has been to Yankee and he goes to Disneyland without doubt every single year. It's a thing that he said he got he got excited telling me about it. This was a grown man and he's getting so I know people that are Yeah, I've got some American friends who they they live in San Diego and they have

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a

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annual pass and they just go up and they've got the fucking custom

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using shift within on it. Which is fine. And they haven't been I've been yet I've done Disney World Disneyland and brain was really into

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theme parks and it wasn't until our last Disney World probably two years ago where I was just like this aside fact embrace IKEA was and the annoying thing was like we could have gone to fucking Cuba or some experience. No, not many people had sort of like the hadn't opened up to the US at that point. could have done that you can stay we spent would have spent like over 1500 bucks on tickets for all the different like thing. Oh, I I guess

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it's a memory

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memory as well. Yeah, they have like a, they have this like a specific smell that they'll pump throughout the place. What is it is it is it It smells like. Um,

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I think it's similar. I think they have this as well. But this is like the main smell that I sort of Remember, you know, those like sugary nuts that you can get in New York or whatever. I know. Like they're like cooking in that like being like the panda something. Yeah. Like,

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what smells like roasting up sugar on top. Yeah,

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I'm base that smells good. But yeah, so but it's just Disney World Disneyland like all the worst people are there. The AP, you do have the one bit where it's like you say people who are sick, who was like, this is a but my thing is the last place if I'm in a fucking wheelchair, and I'm sick. The last thing and maybe that's my privilege, right? The last thing I want though, is to factor in have all these annoying factors around me and waiting in line for shit.

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But you know, if it's magical for some people, and that's like their wish, then that's great. Yeah.

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And if you've never done a theme park,

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go doing anything once is worthwhile going. Like, there's no point even listening to make like, go to Disney World, go to Disneyland and have that experience. You might decide that you love it. But for me,

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roller coasters and all that sort of shit. Like

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the standard roller coasters are fine. But the ones where there's more motion to it. It's like I'm literally like going on a ride. Just trying not to vomit for few minutes. Each one

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of those days. I have.

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I've never vomited. But I've really sick. You get seasick. Yes. Really bad. I vomited all the way to tell me this really yeah and so what are you gonna do? Are you gonna go on boats while you're over? Say yeah, we'll just high traffic come but the thing is, you don't take the fucking all natural ginger one it's bullshit that's not doing shit for you. It's like that is the definition of a placebo that doesn't fact like if you take if you take ginger and you don't get seasick you don't fucking get say so because like an even moms that I remember when I was getting brain I recently went to Perth and we're going to

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what's the island

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rightness rightness Island and I said, I'll just get these ones. And Bruce said, you know, they're ginger. Oh my god be fine. Praise like your mom wouldn't agree. I think that should and sure enough, mom's right. It was like breaking out with both like sitting on the boat. chewing them

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doing that. Those library breaths that you do when you like trying to run my

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mouth watering. Yeah. Yeah.

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You feel it. Anyway, this another episode of The Daily talk show tight. I'm getting sweaty. We need Yeah, we can count on. But what do you think of the format? Like, let's just have a quick retro we do you think that worked? Okay. Yeah,

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it wasn't too boring, was it? It was like, I feel quite low energy today. But I think there's some interesting stuff there. I think the discovery of a conversation is what we're doing. Yeah, his ways ago. What? Where do we start? I can't even remember. That's the thing. You 30 minutes in and you forget everything you've just spoken. We talked about it on my birthday. Oh, yeah, they're

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touching them.

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