- January 16, 2018
We introduce ourselves, talk about nostalgia, our Mums having our backs and brining the lowest vibe in podcast history. It’s only up from here. So listen in, invite your Uncle and enjoy.
Hi everyone. This is Tommy and Josh. His new show called The Daily talk show. Yeah, Tommy jacket. Hey, this is this is Episode One. It is January 6. Dane it's a Tuesday afternoon. Yeah.
And we're doing a bit of a intro. To recap just what we did. We just finished it. Yeah.
So what can you expect
and mistakes. And I promise every episode did not going to be nostalgic.
Now, I actually think back on what we just listened to. And thinking back and listening and thinking back on what we just spoke about is not something you talk about every episode. So we talk about who the hell we are. Yeah, where we've come from, we interview we intro each other and get maybe being strangled as a kid you bang a naughty boy.
That's about it. So enjoy the half hour. Yeah,
and remember, feel free to use the P o box. It's p o box 400. Abbotsford 23067
You look so fucking awkward right now. Hey, you're having to lean over this microphone. I'm
comfortable theory I feel great. Sorry
about my chairs. By the way. Yeah. The noises How did you didn't put them together? I tried to if he can. He got some. I can
see water. But you can't hear it. Yeah,
it's there. This is my name is Josh My name is Tommy. And
this is Welcome to the daily what it's called the daily talk show the domain name on daily talk show.com. And it's only five days a week. Yeah, that's correct. Right. I think I did a Google search I saw that the New York Times have something called the dial a Yeah. And they they do it once they do it every weekday so they get a break so why shouldn't we all right
we'll do that
I reckon we are can we introduce each other okay so um Do you wanna introduce may 5 yeah okay yeah I will
Tommy jacket was born in 1988 he
going to a bunch of different schools or like to two schools at least for for thank you and he he has spent the last 15 years making things he realized early on in his life the school wasn't for him left a little bit early and started building your letter 11 yeah
not yet no not you know i thought was you know my I didn't know work from pretty much you know you you left in you seven you probably mentally I left but they yes so you are
I would consider you
an entrepreneur that maybe only a few years ago was a wannabe entrepreneurs I call it you have done the whole media thing tried working within
straight teams, radio stations, you are well known within the community having spent Sunday with you around your area everyone seems to know Tommy jacket we got free Hulu me fries because of it.
That was from somebody that I worked with Yeah, on the street team
and so massive respect for that
and now you have gone from Tommy jacket and the rebellious kid that was once described as a naughty boy by some teacher at a school yeah
I'll tell that story hundred with intimacy and and have turned into a dad a husband and an entrepreneur that's building a business
and you are the perfect mix of alpha and
alpha and self aware and emotionally intelligent so that is Tommy jacket and I think
the biggest surprise of you ease while you would be the kind of guy who you might see at a fight in a pub you're also the same guy to be having a damn with in the corner of that same pub
with the guy that you just pick the shit out of you like my let's let's sit down and chat now what do you said no cat What have I missed was good I was on radio and so what I was thinking the reason I say that yeah is because
the energy you need to bring when you're actually on writing because you have like three minutes to come out of a song talk and then into a song The difference between that and doing a podcast and your energy is a lot lower than in my head it must be like a trigger yeah
I thought it was just going to be this more high energy thing I was worried that I'm like too low energy sometimes I feel like even when I did that you did that YouTube video yeah on digital stuff and we're like man that's your cyphy yeah
you're right about that level Nam on your head
that to we need to study like, let's now we can't study in bought I can sort of lift up my energy now from from now from now. Or I'll let you
haven't bright the intro. I'm smiling. And it helps. Yeah, it does. I'm always smiling. But this is not about me. This is about you. You have. You're the weirdest motherfucker. I'm
in the kind of muscle way. You know a lot of weird. I mean, you live in St. Kilda. Yeah,
you're you're a mix of weirdness. You don't have street smarts, you're very intelligent. You gauging social situations is probably not your strong point. But then you'll think about it and work it out. Because you're so smart. And so you'll build your toolkit of how to interact by the failure that you've had in the past. Yeah, yeah,
I just wrote this here. Are you right? This is my to do list, right. And there's nothing to do with that show. But I thought it was worth putting in. You have that friend that is like the old person I A my mother, who relies on me for help with things like the entire web, Facebook, and I mean, you are your mom and I am the kid helping you. Yes. So I feel that say with you. I when I ride asked Josh on my to do list before I leave this house to fix my email thing, and to show me how to edit the photos. So you are very savvy with all things. New Age? Yeah.
I always enjoyed technology. Yeah,
you're you're a couple years younger than me. And I think 90. But somehow you've been hanging around the people that I know in some regard, even though you grew up in the outer suburbs of Melbourne, Beverly Hills in devil hills, which I grew up in Brighton. Yeah, right amongst it. You're like
the No, this is specifically not about you. But you like in regards to Brighton. You are the poor kid on the block.
Just one thing when parents bought house in place called garden Val. It turned into Brighton. I did well after it turned into Brighton. Perfect. So yeah. You the kids. It's always popped up. We first started working together. I wanted to be your presenter. And you were making video? Yes. And how long were you there? I was 19. So you know, I think in 19, I'm doing some presenting in front of the camera. And it was this awkward exchange. I was shocked at it. It was the whole week. I feel like the the expectations were so low. Yeah,
it was literally like following you around. As you
said. Oh, what are you doing it? I awake? Yeah.
So you've been in film making videos? Yeah.
For the good portion of your existence. Yeah.
Seems like you were born. What year 1990? 1990? Yeah.
So you had all like, cameras were pretty accessible by the time you were. Yeah, it
wasn't like it is today. But yeah, I remember the first Cameron would have been like, 2001. Yeah. And, you know, it was my uncle's. And he was going away, and we're using it. And then after that, I would have been like grade six and just start making films, your career, your creative
and you could probably make more than you do, which is kind of why we're doing this. Yeah,
absolutely. I feel like I'm, you're the cowboy like it. We've always spoken about Tommy being a cowboy. And what that means is he's
because he's he's very good at experimentation. And there's a sense that
you're playing a above your white cloth in a lot of respect. So you've been very good at saying Oh, yeah, there's a big client name. I haven't done that before, but I'm going to give it a crack. And at this you've turned in from a cowboy who's would sometimes shoot himself in the foot but still get the job done to being able to actually hone our craft and actually get way better than anyone who would have played within this space you're the kid who was in underneath 1340 and they never had an under 30 things team so you're paying playing in under six Danes and you've gotten your ass kicked but now you are at y be a better position that make sense yeah. Now my first 40 analogy on the daily talk show
I've learned heat from you I think that's what you do for a lot of people you teach them even if they don't want to be taught or you
that we had when we saw that some people that you knew Neil Luna Park where I saw it as an opportunity to be like look
this is what I think you guys should know you never want you I know that you just bought a house Have you thought about this this and this and obviously I know that's the way you feel about four hour work week but maybe maybe you'd get something is and as you'll notice on pistachios on tangents that need a lot of context so bear with him and that's why this is daily hopefully you build up enough content text that by the end of it you um you feel like you understand what's going on but this the idea of this so I don't know how we bring up the energy I think this is just a low energy one is it but there's no I don't know if it well I'm more I'm my mate called me yesterday I'm like a dog with three dicks
what does that mean I think it's dogs hump things I've got three of them therefore I'm like you're like amazing every okay I'm like man I'm a lot of energy yeah I got six nuts oh yes I've gone mad whereas sometimes you are give you a few coffees you've lost your head and I don't even I never drank coffee up until recently but this show it's like 30 minutes every single weekday and why why do you think why why have you agree to make it it's not to be famous
by mean you're already famous in Brighton,
like shooting at some neighbors letterboxes something I'm sure
I want to make this because my I actually honestly think that I am less in my head when I'm making more things. So I'm making like 100 videos this year. And then I was thinking it like I I'm making 110 riches
I've just ended up here today making this with you. But it doesn't feel like I'm I don't feel like it won't be achievable. Because I think you know inside when you're like now I actually couldn't do that for you and I you're like one of the only guy mates I've got I've got probably two others but I don't talk to them. But you and I will talk on the phone right and just do not talk on the phone and talk some people weird about talking on the phone. No, I like talking on the phone but I just don't deal with everybody like I've got a couple I think most people would probably have one or two friends that they talk to you You're one of them so talking with us very easy so that's another reason I agree to make this great
I think it's just about like this year for me is about creative momentum and I think that we can create barriers to entry why we can't do things and this is a way of just removing that element and also I'm fucking sick of just like I had a podcast called Josh baking where I interviewed people have never listened to an episode because some good apps
but the thing is that it's like the that interview style is just it's good it's yeah it's fine but I think that there's like an opportunity for all this other cool shit yeah and so this is an opportunity where teammates can talk every day and talk about the world talk about just stories and dumb shit and and have a really low barrier to entry no like music in between like you might just be in UK on your way to work or you might be like struggling to go to sleep or you know like just going for a walk on a Melbourne sunny day I think that what I'm excited just over all of that that's him
thinking because I know
because I told told me that before before I start up like I really want to do a bit where smooth their fam does this great bit like Richard Wilkins and like Melissa Doyle though they'll say are you know that would describe what you're doing and I just love when that Nyala like oh yeah and can I would like so you're in the car and my car yeah I tell you we've nailed this episode is the energy that Richard Wilkins brings. I think that's the thing I I don't know if I can do smooth I think like
don't know like would this be how we talk on how do we talk on the phone
you get a lot more wild Yeah, I don't know you get into things I think that
I get a bit like to the point where I'm speaking so quickly that I'm not making any say that
like that. I think there's a difference between you and I tell each other stories and ask kind of doing a first episode where we're talking about what we're doing so it's I don't know why your mic levels are a little bit lower than mine I reckon it's all about the where how close I am to them I was yeah but I was saying also before we started recording is I've had to radio shows with to both host of told you you've had bad might get get fact
you know the thing is though, when you're in radio half the time. It equalizes everything like I was never that are you for regional radio. How does it work? What do they pay on one of those 50 grand is that like it's cross the board here? I can? Yeah, yeah, she's $55,000. I can't eat for the amount of work you have to put in its peanuts.
But it's it's almost like you're getting paid to go to school. Yeah,
hundred percent, right?
It's like, and you're banking on the fact that this will be a thing. So what does that work out 100 bucks a fortnight or something ridiculous, like 700 bucks away? Yeah, it was fine. When you leave that have any? So you were in shepherd, and for how long? You need two years of being started in like fab and so that would have been like a breakfast show where you would like, hey, it's Tommy and Stacy. And play clips for your breakfast. Yeah, so there's like an opener. And then it's taught you do like an eye opener as well? Would you put was it really
I'll tell you a quick story about what I did. I actually feel a bit triggered by this. It's regarding a regional show. Really, when I went to London for the for the Olympics for FIFA angels. Sam, Kevin, who was executive producer of that show, or he was some some content dude, he's hanging around. Anyway, he had given me this Heath and norm. Heath and Norman Haytham normally had some promo and they had taken a torch all around Australia, and it was going to be in London, and they're going to have a
photo of it in London. And, and so Sam said to me, I just like these guys. They want to just do a bit they going to
begin to speak to you while you're in London. And it's gonna be great. And the whole thing blah, blah, blah. Anyway, I remember I'm
for whatever reason, I'd been like super busy and I hadn't that wanted to talk to me before I was going and stuff that they faked it somehow because I wasn't available. Anyway. I just remember I'm I was so busy with all the London stuff that I never got it done. And I remember giving the torch to someone and we just lost the toilet and I never do to any like bright for them. Like I never spoke to
55 I found a photo and they're just sent this thing all around. I remember it was yellow it had like permanent marker on it. And I am I found a photo that I took on my like Google Photos have been backing up on my photos of that and I felt so triggered because I'm like I never that was like a commitment website that shows that was a big that was there like what a mission and is equivalent of that you find. So that's like the equivalent of like, buddy the fucking jet private jet to. That's their version of it. And it's like, I've had the private jet. I might note guys. Sorry. I've come back to it. Isn't that I feel real bad about that. Have you? Have you got any of those like moments in your head of like little commitments that are like 15 years old that you still think about? I don't think it see. I
don't think like that. That's the difference between my head and yours. You hold on to a lot of that stuff. Yeah, and you feel bad about I'm not saying I don't feel bad. Yeah, there's definitely I can't remember half that stuff. I'm sure I'll think about it. I was
a fucking get one. I found some old photos from a teacher. A teacher gave me $300 I wasn't in her class. But she wanted made up like a slideshow of her class. Are you 10 class that she would give to them? And she gave me the money in advance. And this is you little editor who knows? Yeah, exactly. I thought was wrapped. And she's obviously like, I'm going to support this editor I'm going to do at night. So I think and I remember I just like, you know, it was just one of those jumps where it just like felt bigger than what needed to be. And I was like overthinking it, and I never delivered it. And I still have in my wardrobe all of the photos that need to be scanned all the CDs that she gave me of all the photos and also even all of the photos printed out on like a contact sheet where should circled and cross the ones that she wanted and a part of me wanted to go to Facebook find her and send her back the box of all the photos mean this is what this is 15 years ago. What's her name rush knees and I'm rush me who rushed think she's married. Never is Russia the signs but I feel embarrassed about it. Because I need to go Manny, you've been a youth really, I think was called you've been in Kannada since how old I would have been 1516 So do you think so? That was like what's that's like 1413 years you're selling? Do you think I am?
That'd be funny. It's a funny content like no
but I mean we always think about content if we're going to call the show or for content because I've got the.com but we haven't but anyway now but how do you get rid of it? Like I can't have that thing I've haven't had the heart check it out. Why give it to me out down but no way then because you know what's gonna happen they're gonna be like Hey Josh fact I mean knock on wood. This isn't going to happen but it's like hey hi Josh. This is rush nice family rush these past say this is you overthinking? And she's asked she said I've we've we've saying no to that is that she we're going to deliver this thing and it would be really beautiful to play it you know that that is I know that's so fact up but that's what I think about I'm like oh man so I can't get rid of it. So but is it too weird just to be like because I also don't want to open up the conversation It feels like even me talking about it now feels like I'm opening it up worse like all I wanted to do now know that $300 back
and like I'm fucking breathing anxious breathing because of this
we've been going for
20 minutes that we haven't said that 30 mins was can be hard. Not when I've got like what this is my psychologist psychology but I'm canceling any psychologist that I was going to have this
weekend you can conduct it it is simple as Hey, I remember I was going to do this job for you. If you don't care about parting with 300 box and giving it back to her because she might ask for that he might just say all right i think she would never like the thing and she's never gonna probably wouldn't it This is 13 years whose money was it would have been her personal money wasn't no it would have been cashed personal money and But hang on. How did you feel when you didn't deliver? Well because I think they passed your hairdresser and you got awkward because he didn't want to be seen by the guy who cuts your hair that you've stopped going to? Yeah,
I think it's $80
because it was every single year was I can't that's gonna like we're gonna do that now. So I'm like, Hi. I'm struggling to pick which photos Can you do that bit that and they're just like after two years and three years it sort of just gets lost. And right now you work with big clients that pay you a lot of money and you actually execute them yeah so
you learn from your mistakes I did I think that like and
Yeah. No, I think
it's i think that you know, when you talk about people being triggered and stuff like that think that so much of like, people's reactions to emails and like how you're working on that thing. They're just freaking out about Roshni and the
fact that you haven't delivered on the thing and that's all coming. I get triggered if he asked him back being treated. I definitely do about something. Yeah, more around the school. you're mentioning the teachers that used to I used to always get in trouble. Or I was at least the person that was pointed at and blamed for something that went on but it was a you not always know 100% not. And
this is just a quick story. Probably 1415 we went to a party I lived in Brighton got dropped in a party in elec 30 minutes away. Yeah, in this big warehouse. And it was like a 16th birthday or fourth or fifth or whatever. Anyway, so it was like a bit of a disco and there was a DJ and people had brought some red bays and some Woody's what read best Volkers I don't drink Josh never drink how many times you've drank like in Cape a quick my whole life like five times faster. Anyway. I drink it after I drank at least 100 times at this age and so someone had stash these Woodstock's Orbitz behind the DJ booth in this house. Yeah, and the dad was poking around behind the the booth and families they were hand on heart, not mine. He came straight up to me, mind you, he was a teacher at the school that I went to and he grabbed me by the fucking jumper drag me outside, took me down stays and kicked me out. And I hadn't done it. And he just knew that all the naughty boy and he kicked me out. And I just remember there's nothing worse than feeling with the injustice and also because it's like
I have done that before but I haven't assignments really annoying. Yeah, yeah.
But you can really be defensive and I know you have a
So yeah, I just I lost that AM. But my mom of that time. She said, here's the problem. I've got a kid now. And I think if my kid tells me that he didn't do something, I'll believe him straightaway. And then I'll go into that for him. And, and my math. Luckily it is. So she always did that. She always went into bathroom.
So would that mean that you would never lie to her?
I'd never lied. Or about something like this. Okay. I'd be did it but I didn't do this. And she if I can call him up. Okay. gave him a good spell.
Talking. Talking about your mum's ending, like moms defending the kids. I remember I sent an email to the program director of three sh ER and the city of Casey. I said, I said I wanted Yeah, I would have been like 12 and I said, I wanted to be a DJ all this stuff. And he wrote back to me, no joke. He's like, first of all
their radio announces right? This guy was a fucking ass. All right. And he saw he's, this is like, a 12 year old kid. And this dude would have been like, in the 60s. You keep every email Do you still
no, I think that that like that was pre oh five. Okay, so I don't have things before I five. So this would have been from a hotmail address. So yeah, and so um, mom contacted him gave him a call I got an invite around to the station to have basically have my own show and I was like, if I get like, we're not doing it and because like it and yeah, mom was super,
super cross. I remember when I was um,
I wonder what stories you can get us in trouble. This one? I think so. Okay. I am i when i was 11 I am. Everything happens around the same time. I was just like that like going from primary school to high school was quite transformative. But this is grade six just after the sovereign Hill camp and I bought some real handcuffs and it was my birthday and my relatives will all around my birthday and my uncle who in my head at the time he was a bit of a nodal had said that my handcuffs went real.
So I told him to put his hands behind his back, he was in my room and I put them on really taught and then I said I can try and get out of them. And he couldn't. And I just pushed him onto my bed. So he was like, face down, he's the he was screaming Hey, it's tight, it's hurting and that has like laughing so hard obviously, and then he undid them I hunted them for him yeah and he like strangled he grabbed my neck Not for long Not for long but I've always admitted this part of the story because a little bit dark but then mom said what's what's the red redness around your neck I said uncle blah blah was strangling me before but
it sounded so out right
now she said that desk like like and we didn't see them for four years and because of that because of that because of like they left in a half and it was like one of those like I was always a catalyst for family disputes made it doesn't cry like who was like 15 years older yeah I
could imagine you would have been annoying as hell but you probably don't need a strangle a keen right yeah, yeah,
so I think that in high in hindsight was probably like, yeah, you'd probably do that I normally admit the strangle bit and just say that they
did it well there's a patent here The only reason I'm here is because I got the email from your mom he told me if I don't do it should be upset he won't talk to you again. I think
yeah, it's funny isn't it? It's a good assignment like when you're a kid like you just look at like how do you look on your childhood front fondly? Yeah, it's pretty restless yeah
but I feel triggered everything about that actually a school was thing I had most but I got through it and that's the thing got like a life now fucking awesome as an adult. Like having responsibility can be annoying sometimes but it's like liberating terms of you get to do what you want to do you get to make the choices so
I'm trying to like Power of Now thing because I like fact if you think about what we've spoken about it's been almost LG shit is literally spent like the whole episode in 10 years ago. Like every every story that I've told was from 2000 and let's wrap it up back so on Yeah, I think I've got a p o box which I'm pumped about. We're going to talk about the fact that you haven't paid box Yeah, we'll talk tomorrow about people can send a shit all right. What's the pay a box a p o box 400. Abbotsford. 3067. If we
can get something in a p o box. Just send me a DM size p o box so I can fit medium sized things if you send be packages or just get like a note I'm getting bogged down either way we were going to talk about different stuff it's not going to be nostalgia of our childhoods every episode now but I think the thing about this is consistency and putting them out and having these conversations all the time I'm yeah
I feel better about it and sorry about the low energy I think that like factor that you ate before I think it was me to Paddy but it's also like I'm really wary of not peaking the mind if you carrying too much yeah probably 14 dive no you haven't because I don't fucking terrible marketing you are quieter than I am but yeah you like pump that up in post production so yeah we're gonna do that so fix it in post so we're both on YouTube we're both trying to build that up as well new videos coming soon yeah when he finishing the one with main body I'm going to finish some of that today okay cool for them they're great Alright everyone you've been listening to the daily the daily talk show the date the day before packing up the name is that we can then just change it because exactly it's not me it's the funny thing is we went in being like let's not like what's like a really like specific name it can't be too generic and we've landed on the daily talk show the diabetes but yeah thanks for the daily talk show.com you can email us from their use the P o box please like subscribe on iTunes because we've got that said ensure that this is going to be every day for all the weekdays and shit so that's exciting isn't it? We will have some guests on I think we might call some people
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