EP 981
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:00] Very low barrier to get into the grown squad.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:07] We've committed to do the daily talk show for 10 years. I had guys
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:11] in the calendar
Josh Janssen: [00:00:13] just like to check the temperature in the room. I told you my squeegee
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:16] story,
Josh Janssen: [00:00:20] the daily talk show episode 981.
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:23] What day is it? What is it? Someday Tom tie
Josh Janssen: [00:00:27] happened. We used to have a podcast with Georgie boy.
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:30] He called Humpday. Yep. We've still got George podcasts still is online. If you want to listen to it. It is a great podcast. George did such a great job, um, uh, say who do the great job of what?
Just at raising me and my father. Um, what did he do? Well, wow. Actually, it's it's still complicated. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now he's a great man. Um, driving Bodhi daycare yesterday. Lovely sentiment. He has does Disney. Yeah. I mean, I know the guy too well anyway, I was on him and he said to
Josh Janssen: [00:01:02] me, yeah, no, it was just a, it's just seems quite calm, but also also, yeah.
Bodie.
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:09] No. Yeah. Stern. Yeah. So anyway, he was driving boding. Well, no, yesterday I was driving to daycare, like first thing in the morning. I'm like, that's my dad and my dad doesn't live anywhere near Abbotsford. He's with the neighbor, Sharon? No, her name's Debbie. No, no, no. I was like, I saw a Ute and it's so funny because I was about to turn left and take a different path, but then I decided to go another path.
And at that moment I spotted a user head and I followed it because I'm like, this is dad. So buddies in the car, Amy's in the car, followed him. Turn left. I might make, this is him pull up and a team. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Did you have a chat? He was so pumped to see Bodhi. I don't know, but it was, it was one of those moments where he kind of had a frigate.
Oh, have you done that overseas? Um, have I been, Oh yeah. Yeah. When I walked into the banana bungalow in Los Angeles, I mean, a lot of people go to LA you haven't spoken
Josh Janssen: [00:02:04] about the banana bungalow
Tommy Jackett: [00:02:05] in a long time. I hope they're doing all right. Kofi would have hit them hard. It's probably a lot of sort of unique individuals staying in the banana bungalow.
There's one in Santa Monica, I think Venice and the other one is in West Hollywood. And I walked in and I saw my friend, Wendy playing Paul what's
Josh Janssen: [00:02:24] Wendy's deal. Wendy,
Tommy Jackett: [00:02:26] you know, Wendy grew up around the traps, hanging at their train station together. You know, good, you know, good memories, good memories. But when he was there and so what a coincidence, it was great anyways.
Great. Saying my dad I'd love it when those things happen. Yeah. Out of, out of, um, like out of his hood, just cruising around. He's like, I'm actually just waiting for, I've got to go to an appointment in the city. And so randomly we crossed paths. We had that with basil basil. Yeah. Yesterday. He's been on hump day.
About 14 times. Yeah. Uh, Basil's a great guy. And, and that was the say we just stumbled upon basil, literally walking
Josh Janssen: [00:03:06] to get coffee, bump into basil, end up at here. Nothing happened.
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:11] I mean, that sounds like a good night out. Yeah. The amount of times I've randomly seen somebody and then spent the whole night with them should have been more than not.
Well, yeah,
Josh Janssen: [00:03:21] you've talked, you spoke about that. Was it. Uh, was it London or something? I feel, have you been to London?
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:28] London?
Josh Janssen: [00:03:28] Was it? I feel like, um, you bumped into a maintenance up spending heaps of time with them. Uh,
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:34] yeah. Traveled with John who just happened to be there. It's like who happens to be in the town at the time?
Um, it's definitely once I was out with a friend, uh, we were walking along the street, got in a punch up. And it wasn't me. The punch up. He was my mate who was punching on with some dude. And then that guy had a friend. We then became mates. Oh no, that night. Not Joel loser, mate, dude. Oh, I didn't know. He went, he went off.
Um, and so he pissed off. Yeah, they kind of just pissed. It was, was he pissed
Josh Janssen: [00:04:12] off though that
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:13] you then framed angry and then I just sort of will wrestling everyone next minute. Me and Daniel, I haven't pizza together. And then we became mates. We started doing boxing together.
Josh Janssen: [00:04:25] All right. Well, I remember, um, my brother went to, um, like a basketball tour when he was younger in, in, in the U S.
And there was a photo of him in universal studios. And I zoomed in on his holiday photos and I saw someone from our suburb at universal studios. My brother James didn't know them.
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:49] It's pretty crazy. Uh, so my brother is married to a beautiful woman named Claire and w we grew up in sort of similar suburbs.
Didn't go to the same school. Um, like my brother. And hurting go the same school, but there's photos of them when they're super young. Oh, that's cool. And like how amazing, like looking at a photo, there's like a bunch of kids and two people that are married that have a third kid on the way. It's amazing.
Yeah. This is, this is a thing that I'm struggling to swallow. Should I, um, too many big slugs. What's a slut. Leave that one and get it. It's just a illicit drug joke. Okay. What sort of drug cocaine. Okay. That happens. Isn't it right guys. Now I'm that's I heard what happens. And
Josh Janssen: [00:05:35] so, um, no, uh, no. Cause I was, I was saying earlier we had a call with a client potential client and then halfway through the call, I just tried to talk and I was like needing to swallow.
Hmm. And I was like really struggling. And then I remembered a couple of nights earlier. Uh, I was on the phone to a mate. I was lying down on my stomach having a conversation and
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:59] we're, we're in the
Josh Janssen: [00:06:00] bed actually, not in bed, but you know, just like I always lay on top of the bed. Your bed's
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:05] always made. Yeah.
Brain makes a good bed and then you
Josh Janssen: [00:06:09] fight on. I make a bed sometimes.
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:12] No, but I've seen it because you could lie on that bed.
Josh Janssen: [00:06:16] I sort of, I always go like, um, horizontal.
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:19] With your legs out.
Josh Janssen: [00:06:21] Yeah. But like, as in, so it's not the correct way of lying because our big unit
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:26] and it's going across the bed makes a lot of things I knew was doing it last night.
And so I was
Josh Janssen: [00:06:30] anyway, I was lying down and I was talking and as I was talking to my mate, I was like, I'm really struggling to like swallow and get out words you said, no, no, no, no. I was just like, yeah. Explaining it, like having this conversation and explaining something and that was happening. I was like, Oh no.
And I stood up like stood up and it sort of got better, but now I have a feeling that it's a panic attack. So you
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:54] think it came back today and it was it, uh, was it like a panic situation that like, or was it out of context that you were connecting a panic attack? Because you
Josh Janssen: [00:07:05] always know? I had to, I think I had to be really thinking about stuff.
And it was my turn to talk and it was in that moment where I was like struggling. And then I thought about, uh, I used to get a tinnitus of tineas or whatever you call it in my ears ringing. Yeah, no, it was like, yeah. And, um, It, it happened. So I went, I did a fireworks documentary, a documentary about fireworks in the Philippines, had a firework off ever since then I had that noise and the doctors were saying, just don't think about it.
And it got better. And so I feel like that was a bit of an anxiety thing, or if you get overly tired, but now, so I used to have a yawning thing happen
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:51] where like, is it's something to do with the oxygen intake. And so w being anxious, have you seen me doing that? Do
Josh Janssen: [00:07:57] you remember saying you do that? Yeah.
Yeah. It's like a mid yawn,
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:03] but now that's, I'm fucking the warning now. And so
Josh Janssen: [00:08:06] it's like, it's like tired, but now it's like, you can't get the oxygen, but it, um, that it's not to do with oxygen. It has everything to do with like gang. Like it is anxiety thing for a lot
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:16] of people. It sounds like it. So what's actually happening based on.
Yeah. And so it's sort of like, if the thing about deep breathing, shallow breathing. So the reason I thought it may be, and we're not doctors here, the reason I may . You are Dr. Jansen, the reason I thought it may be connected to the oxygen thing is because thinking about the shallow breathing due to anxiety, I do it all the time.
Yeah. That's my go-to shallows. And then a big one. Yeah, no, you do
Josh Janssen: [00:08:44] it like a throw the teeth, snorkeling, scuba diver. So the annoying thing is it's happening at the moment. And like, um, it sort of feels like really inflamed. Uh, what's that called
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:59] again? Glands lands. So we were, you know, your parents would grab you and dislike and you do it to yourself, grab you by the neck, grab you in sort of feel to say, like, if you were trying to bullshit her, you were sick.
Yeah, sure. Oh, I'm sorry. My throat is like, they grabbed your throat for you glance. And so I can see it a lot.
Josh Janssen: [00:09:16] Yes. I was thinking potentially it's connected because I haven't, I didn't walk into work today. I was thinking maybe. Some of them, maybe my adrenals, maybe get some adrenal issues
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:27] or, you know, what can mess with your adrenal gland.
Now, as he sips a strong coffee, your coffee did say
Josh Janssen: [00:09:36] that I wanted to eat. I didn't want it. But Jess Jess said, no, just get a strong. And I actually
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:43] like it. I pushed for you to get the weight because I wanted to,
Josh Janssen: [00:09:46] it was sort of, I was experimenting. I was like, Because we're like, let's go for a walk, go to the PO, but you're safe.
You feel, feel a bit
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:54] better. Adrenal gland, not adrenaline gland. Did I say adrenaline? And I've just, I type in adrenal, adrenal gland, um, disorders. I mean, this is, Oh God, there you go. What are some types of adrenal gland disorders and the achievers, but this is where people feel like, um, I've heard that.
Around coffee. It's like depleted your adrenal gland. I mean, sometimes I feel like, I think, I think about a diesel car and you can smell it, you know, you can smell the diesel out of the back of the exhaust. Yeah. Regardless of what it's doing and just, you know, it's a diesel cup. Okay. So you think anxiety is a bit like that?
I feel like the amount of coffee that sometimes I can assume. And it's just on my breath. I'm a diesel car. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You know, agitated. Yeah. Can we talk about just dropping a whole almond latte in my car yesterday? I
Josh Janssen: [00:10:53] mean, the thing was you handle those things very
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:55] well. Well, I don't care as much as say you would.
Because you all thinking about your partner and what your car's very clean, he runs a tight ship, running a loose unit. We're running, we're running a things have happened to that map. Yeah. Well, our back mats in our car, which you get back mats, and if you don't get a car and then get back mats or mats, you know, seriously
Josh Janssen: [00:11:19] think twice.
Yeah. We actually got our
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:21] thrown in a lot of the time. They, yeah, we'll check in mats. We'll check in. I just, it shows you reckon they worth. Ah, it could be up to like 300 bucks for Matt. This sort of the captions
Josh Janssen: [00:11:31] of video, like video production captions are Ignatius. Yeah. It's like you
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:37] should expect, but you make the payment before.
Yeah. So tally, um, last year Amy was giving myself, Jess, uh, um, Tali a lift to the next venue. driver. She's pregnant. Yeah. Kelly had a bottle of fireball, cinnamon liquor just dropped it, dropped in the backseat. Cody's there. He's just thinking it's rally there's sugar in the car. Cinnamon. It went on the map.
That's at the bottom of bodies' fate, like download, he's fitting to touch it, but the cast stank like a fireball for weeks and weeks in a good way now, like in a sickening way. And it went rock-hard and I still it's still rock hard in the car. Um, and so then what about the mat? And then, then Jess spills, her almond latte, the whole thing.
Yeah. Poor thing. Didn't even get to see it. That's what I was concerned about. That was annoying on the other map. And so you've got tele ruining one side and just ruining the other yesterday. I, um, I cleaned it off. Like she just cleaned it. I cleaned it, dried it out, but this morning I opened the car, smells like a latte.
Well,
Josh Janssen: [00:12:51] that's latte is better than smelling. Uh, damp, you know, like accidentally leaving the window open. Yeah. And then you get that damp smell. Yeah. Horrendous. It smells terrible.
Tommy Jackett: [00:13:03] Look, if you, if you've had a panic attack, what happens? Have you, what's your symptom, maybe it's different. Like I've heard other people,
Josh Janssen: [00:13:11] like, can you think of any moments where you've had?
So I remember I had a panic attack at a bagel shop in New York. What happened? They asked me what I wanted. I was
Tommy Jackett: [00:13:21] like, Yeah, a panic attack. I don't, I don't think I've had a panic attack. I've had anxiety. Get it. Um, have you ever had a, uh, like an old time action? It has to go
Josh Janssen: [00:13:34] public meltdown? No, I haven't either.
I feel like I would be the guy to have one of those. What I mean.
Tommy Jackett: [00:13:41] If w is it just a meltdown in public, but there's a difference between eyes on you. So like Sam Harris, Dan Harris, Dan Harris, 10% happier. Yeah, he's the, he's the, um, he was the TV anchor had a breakdown on live television dad.
That's just a tidy honorary. You have just give it up. So if you succumb to the yawns and you just like, let it go, I can tell you, I'll tell you a breakdown. I feel like it's like, have you, Oh, Eric, in the other week nearly had a breakdown. Just wanted to cry. You know, it sounds, it sounded like that was, I mean that's, and that was Wednesday night.
It wasn't even that bad. It was like, um, I think it was when we were walking through the park and Fitzroy gardens. Sure. Yeah. But you know, sometimes you just feel sad. There's not much reason to feel sad. And I think that's quite normal at times it's varying levels, but I just wanted to cry and I kept it all in, you know?
Josh Janssen: [00:14:46] Yeah. It was good and good job with the toxic masculinity, but even someone said on the mat, Dave Eller video, That guy looks like he was going to, it was me that guy's going to go. It looks like he was going to cry or no, he said he's that guy crying.
Tommy Jackett: [00:15:01] It's um, nothing wrong with a good cry. Yeah. When was the last time you had a cry?
Uh, when was it? Off-camera
Josh Janssen: [00:15:07] yeah, it probably
Tommy Jackett: [00:15:09] was on camera. Yeah, but that's what I mean, it's off cameras. Um,
Josh Janssen: [00:15:14] I think, uh, the feeling has less been less teary and more numb. It's just a little bit like, um,
It's just like that, you know, like, um, yeah. It's.
Tommy Jackett: [00:15:30] I'm swallowing. Okay. Um, I mean, literally I think it's, I felt like I feel, I felt like her crying more is like in this part of my life than any part of my adult life. It's how many child tuber filming at Northern college of the arts and technology, uh, school.
For kids that are in year 10 to 12, you know, it's very arts focused, um, performing arts, artistic musical, like it's so good. Amazing. Um, but seeing young kids, I was like, feeling like I wanted to cry based on how proud I would be if I was their parent. Yeah, sure. It's um, if you want to cry there.
Josh Janssen: [00:16:08] No, no, no.
I'm trying to think of like, it's funny, like different emotions. Yeah, I would like different
Tommy Jackett: [00:16:14] stuff before Bodhi. I would never have thought about that. Like in terms of like seeing kids and thinking about what I would feel if I was their parent and being really nice,
Josh Janssen: [00:16:26] like for some reason, like that seems like it's you get more of an emotional thing.
People do even saying basil, who we spoke about gave Jess a nice birthday
Tommy Jackett: [00:16:36] present. Oh, that would have been great. If
Josh Janssen: [00:16:38] nobody is like, this is.
Tommy Jackett: [00:16:40] Really lovely. Oh, he's a really lovely guy. Yeah. And so like, I'm not that lovely,
Josh Janssen: [00:16:47] don't you think there's certain personalities that may be bringing, I reckon basil would have been in front of a lot of people that cried, because he's just like that sort of made people cry, but just the friendliness and the time.
Yeah. An environment where you yeah. You feel like, you know what? I feel like crying.
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:06] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What do you say to
Josh Janssen: [00:17:08] Bodie when he cries?
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:10] Um, uh, tough enough. I know. Absolutely not. It depends. It depends on what's going on. If it's warranted as in like he's being absolutely silly and I, you know, and you can talk him out of it, but if he tells
Josh Janssen: [00:17:24] him, sign a fake crying a real, of
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:26] course, what's the difference.
Just more than sit back and just, yeah. It. Yeah. The sound of it. Yeah, it is. I can't even articulate, but you just know your child, you could hear it crying in a pack of kids crying. Like that's how in tune, based on just it happening so often. And so I remember buddy's first tears. Oh yeah. I think I have them on camera.
No, no, don't no joke because kids don't have their T ducks. Functioning, um, like adults until like a certain point in like there's no water. It's weird. It's so bizarre because there's nothing in them. Just having breast milk.
Josh Janssen: [00:18:12] What are you, um, when you think about being a dad for the second time, do you think about that stuff much?
Which
Tommy Jackett: [00:18:18] the crying bit? No, just in general. In what, in, in terms of
Josh Janssen: [00:18:23] you thinking about the fact that you're going to have a little girl in your life five in six
Tommy Jackett: [00:18:27] months time. Yeah. It's bizarre. It's bizarre. I am. Oh, definitely. When I'm feeling the kicking, it's just, it's much nicer this time, but thinking I'm more the guy thinking about needing two cars now, where have you landed with that Tesla man.
And I'd love that if I was going to get another car, which I don't think we will straight away, I want something that's like. Um, could sleep in it, maybe, you know, so like, uh, a van, like not a van, but like something that you could do, you want to sleep in it for, Oh, go on little adventures with Bodhi, like in Ghana have a sleep and then we wake up and we go surfing the next day.
Yeah. Or like, uh, uh,
Josh Janssen: [00:19:08] you just want something that's practical
Tommy Jackett: [00:19:10] though. And something that we can use for carrying gear around and, you know, like shoots and stuff, but also checking bikes into like, it's a, yeah, it's a real thing. Did two cars as a family. You see why people buy more than one car and there's some who don't even have acre.
Um, so no, but definitely thinking about having that. Little girl, it's going to be a fucking trip, dude. Just having a little boy. I think I'm glad that I had a boy first just based on being familiar with it all. Yeah. You know, like less scared. Just this one. I think you're more scared. Not just less, like, not like, I dunno, there's something in, in me that thinks about even just dealing with downstairs and the nappy changes and just, yeah.
Just, I know it might, I've worked that before myself. Yeah. But just like, I don't know. It's great because Bodhi and I have a really special little bond. And then, um, so you're not
Josh Janssen: [00:20:04] going to deal with the, the new
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:05] Buffy. What was the difference in thinking about two people's attention being on one child and then Bodhi needs attention.
And so Amy has to look after, you know, when she can, and then, you know, switching over and Brody's can watch TV while Amy has a rest while I take the baby. But there's a lot of that thinking. So it's yeah, logistics, but also not as scary you do something once. Um, you're familiar. It's not as scary as the first time.
Well, you were talking
Josh Janssen: [00:20:34] about like Christmas plans, there's a Christmas inside the idea of like booking ahead. Does it not feel a little bit weird? Booking something ahead when you know there's going to be something in the world that you didn't have before. Yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:46] Well, I think I'm looking at booking a, an apartment in Bondai for a week in Christmas time, but the thing is, dude, you look at it now it's a hundred bucks a night.
That shape. Is he 50 a night? That's like as in for December for, yeah, like January 1st week of January. Which is so cheap. And if you book that, which he couldn't get something a week out, which we leave everything to the last minute and it's a nightmare. And so it's all about how can you make your control, your controllables kind of control the kids that you're going to provide?
I think we are we'll book something in, but I want it to have a look at some, um, get onto our friends at the overload hotel. That would be nice. Yeah. You know, stay at, uh, because my thought is you stay at an Airbnb for what, 150 bucks a night in a great place, but can you stay in a hotel and get a bit of room service?
You know, like you spend a bit more money, but it's like, I dunno, I always might. It might be another one.
Josh Janssen: [00:21:48] Yeah. On the Airbnb thing. I know I said before, I was like, I can't be fucking talking about investing and stuff. I will for it for a second. Um, the. Because I've been like, this is what my rabbit hole, I don't know much, but I'm just like learning and getting familiar with stuff, looking at different businesses and thinking about where to invest Airbnb.
When you think about Airbnb, do you think of something that's got like a crazy awesome future?
Tommy Jackett: [00:22:16] Um, I think that would have to pivot. I think they'll have to like into real estate selling real estate. Yeah. Isn't that what they're doing though? I heard something about
Josh Janssen: [00:22:25] commercial leases. Commercial. Yeah. The idea of like an office space, like, so they could be like a version of not even we work, but it's like Airbnb, but for commercial buildings
Tommy Jackett: [00:22:37] or aren't they a profitable business though?
Like haven't, they been one that in respects to Uber or something that has taken that much funding that haven't. They haven't made more money than they've had invested. I'm not
Josh Janssen: [00:22:50] sure for the second quarter of 2019 Reuters reported, the Airbnb took in more than $1 billion in revenue. Uh, the home sharing service company says the hosts.
They've chosen to list their properties on Airbnb and over 80, 80 billion. Yeah, one day he go. Still the coronavirus, Airbnb CEO, Brian Chesky at the company event in 2018, during the third quarter of the year, Airbnb made 219 million in profit. Wow. On revenue of 1.3 billion. Yeah, no. So I was just thinking about companies.
And then I went down this rabbit hole of going through the ASX and seeing all of the companies that are
Tommy Jackett: [00:23:31] listed, say cocaine. I did pagans
Josh Janssen: [00:23:34] there they've taken a hit. Did you say that what's happened to them? Kogan shares have plummeted from the launch? Uh, yes. In the last, like two weeks, why they're wiped off, like something like that 20% or something.
Some ridiculous amount. So they it's interesting. Cause it, it seems to be all, um, external forces because they had a really good rapport. Like everything that they were saying was really positive, but, um, Yeah. Thinking about companies and thinking about where they're going to Bay. And then I was thinking about looking at, um, at, uh, looking at the different companies.
And then I saw Oliver's all of his being the food company that, where it's like a random, you know, on a freeway, he was seeing all of us petrol station, the
Tommy Jackett: [00:24:21] healthy option. But the selling point was beans instead of chips. Yeah, absolutely not.
Josh Janssen: [00:24:28] But then I was thinking, I just caught myself. In this moment trying to be strategic.
And the thinking, like, I don't know anything about that business, but I'm like, you know what? People are going to want to go on road trips and what do you need on road trips? You need snacks, but then it's like, that can't be, but then you compare it to big tech companies like Apple and Google. It's like, well, that seems like a sure bet.
Doesn't it compared?
Tommy Jackett: [00:24:55] Well, which does the Apple
Josh Janssen: [00:24:57] or Google, the, the thing that I've been investing in is this thing called, uh, end. Uh, NDQ on the ASX and DQ is taking, uh, the top 100 on the NASDAQ and it's all, um, the tech stuff. So it's like Google, Apple, or that's the thing, it's a index fund. And you're like, you know, you're buying a share and you get a.
You're basically buying a share into that fund. That's got all of this, which is
Tommy Jackett: [00:25:27] safer then.
Josh Janssen: [00:25:30] Yeah. But I just think about say all of those companies versus something like an Oliver's. And when you hear people talking about stories of losing money, it's always single companies. Don't you think like
Tommy Jackett: [00:25:43] all of it is that its own it's like a publicly listed company.
The thing is about all these businesses, the people that. IPO then make the money. But the early stage at the thing about cogen, what that stock came out for and when it went to like days after that always happens, it comes out high and goes down
Josh Janssen: [00:26:03] sold. I think like in August last year he sold like a hundred million dollars in shares, which is not like a good sign.
You don't want to be saying that all the time, but also you want to take some money off the table. If you did buy
Tommy Jackett: [00:26:14] a few properties down the peninsula, Yeah, be nice. That's it? I'm probably stopped in all of it, but you had an Angela link, but it's
Josh Janssen: [00:26:21] so funny thinking about how much bullshit you can spin around.
Think like strategizing. Then I ended up watching a Warren buffet interview, whereas because Warren Buffett's whole thing is don't try and time the market go into an index fund, do that. And you will do better than trying to fucking. Buy and sell.
Tommy Jackett: [00:26:41] Yeah. Yeah. Long, long term for most, for most people. Yeah. I mean, you'd have the money to invest first, which most people don't have the money.
There is
Josh Janssen: [00:26:50] the whole funny thing, right? When, whenever we say a wish, ah, fuck. I wish I knew that Apple was going to be big. Like the reason why I didn't buy stock in 2012 when I wanted to. I just, I didn't have money otherwise I would have. Right. Exactly.
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:04] Yeah, exactly. Um, I've been, uh, well, I've kind of been evading the truth with, so she tonight had a, uh, an event that was booked in, or she asked me, are you working late on Wednesday?
Today's Wednesday. Today's like, Oh, can I get back to you? And I left it hanging because I didn't want to answer because if I answer. And say that I am working late. I'm like, what do you mean? And I don't want to lie because Amy's friend had gotten onto me and said, mate, I'm flying down to Melbourne. Um, I was like, don't stay at our place course.
And so why, why did
Josh Janssen: [00:27:51] they contact you and not Amy
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:52] because we're doing a surprise for Amy. Okay. And so,
Josh Janssen: [00:27:55] and so did Amy, did you already know this one? Amy asked, are you working late?
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:59] So, luckily it just took a couple of days, but I didn't
Josh Janssen: [00:28:03] tell you being a prick and saying, I can't tell you.
Tommy Jackett: [00:28:06] We have had a bunch of shoots that have gone light and I actually joined denied, but it was around the similar time that I got contacted.
And so Amy friend from work had won these tickets to this fashion event that she was going to take Amy to.
Josh Janssen: [00:28:19] And then you said no, because I'm going to have to work
Tommy Jackett: [00:28:20] late. And I see that look. Safe bet. Tell her the can't go because I probably will be working. Yeah. But it's been so funny. I can't wait to ask her.
Did you ever think you got a real answer off me? Cause I've just, I'm reading the book, lying by Sam Harris. It's all about how. You shouldn't lie about anything. And I'm just like, I want to surprise her because she's going to get a fucking surprise when Ryan comes to the office and I tell Amy, can you please come pick me up and then come upstairs and Amy will come up and she'll see.
Right. And she'll be mind blown. Oh, that'd be great. And then we will go to the pub tonight. We'll have some, um, have some dinner, few beers, and I go to, um, Loves to cave. Who's pine Ryan, maybe. Yeah, that would be nice. Yeah. Well, it could be he's working on, he worked hard. He's down here for work. Yeah. But it's um, it's good.
I mean, yeah, so I don't, so, cause I, you know, he's just. You just become sheepish. So she'd just be, he's been weird. Okay. I'm not going anywhere.
Josh Janssen: [00:29:19] Do you worry about like how your mouth looks when you talk? You know, when you're lying and it's just all of a sudden, there's a smiling, like, what are you smiling?
Is that nothing it's
Tommy Jackett: [00:29:29] real outer body. So you can say yourself, it's like a movie playing banner. So I'm glands. It's going to be worth it for a surprise. Sort of evading the truth and, um, and having her so like a hero and I'll look like an absolute,
Josh Janssen: [00:29:45] no, you did say that she couldn't go before the whole Ryan thing.
I
Tommy Jackett: [00:29:50] tell you what I cleaned the house last night. Oh, that's nice. It was a big load of washing that had been dry. All of this. Why does digital, uh, I've I've sent Cracker out for two, two sweeps of the house and he's being the vacuum control, vacuum that my house automated vacuum yet, but I've cleaned the house.
So it's really nice. But boys don't want to say to her. Yeah. Come on. Say thank you. You just like, it's amazing when you can't be fishing for the compliment based on it kind of then her maybe poking holes in.
Josh Janssen: [00:30:24] Yeah. That's nice. Well, he's good, Alan, is Ryan going to be here for just one
Tommy Jackett: [00:30:30] night, but, um,
Josh Janssen: [00:30:31] what, so do you know what you're going to do for dinner?
You don't know yet?
Tommy Jackett: [00:30:34] Yeah, we'll go to the Tempe. Okay. The place where Bradley calls it, the claw. Cause it's got a great pub food pub food Palm. Awesome. It's got everything, everything. Date, Caesar, salads, grind. I'd love to say so, but um, hopefully uncle Ryan, it's probably his grandfather. Hopefully he will.
Um, Bring some coins for Bodie to play the skill test that cause he loves the skill test. Lovely Bodhi does Bodhi loves it. I'm sure Ryan does too. Yeah. Anyway. All right. Well it's
Josh Janssen: [00:31:03] a, the daily talk show. Have
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:04] a good one guys. See you guys.