Drill Rap Vs. Country Music

Tommy: It's a very low barrier to get into the Gronk Squad.

Josh: That's crazy! We've committed to do The Daily Talk Show for 10 years.

Tommy: Hi guys.

Josh: Hi guys. Put it in the calendar. I'd just like to cheque the temperature in the room. I told you my squeegee story.

Tommy: It is outrageous.

Josh: Come on, let's go. It's The Daily Talk Show episode 953.

Tommy: What is happening?

Josh: How are you, Tommy Jacket?

Tommy: Feeling good. Friday, some nice weather coming our way. Depends on what you like. Very, very wet.

Josh: Well, yeah, very wet. I actually drove in this morning.

Tommy: How was it?

Josh: Felt like an executive. It was very nice. Went into the garage. Do you know what I mean? Like, it was nice. Can I turn right from Victoria Street to our street?

Tommy: Thanks for asking the police officer on the team. Yeah, you can.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: No, I mean, this is what I'm on to. I like to, I like to, I'd like to think I'm quite observant and seeing what's going on. What you're asking me is, can you turn right over a tram track into our street?

Josh: Solid line.

Tommy: Solid line, which, I mean, you would think if you were in a test and you were 21, you wouldn't do it. 18 going for your P's, you wouldn't do it. But I did ask a police officer on a bike and he told me, yeah, it's all good, which I'm going with that. And I, and I And I will state it. I was at Woolworths yesterday and picking up just a few bits of thing, you know, things for lunch. It's probably an issue that I'm going to the supermarket every day and not organising it before.

Josh: Mum used to do that.

Tommy: Very convenient though, because it is close by. I was getting some dip yesterday. Notice these two guys. What I noticed about them, this is my street smarts coming out. I noticed like one of them had headphones in. And was he with his mum? Yeah, yeah. And I was like, mate, it's a bit odd. Like, weird, huh? And they were just in my way and they were just having banter and— Sorry.

Josh: Oh, bless you.

Tommy: That really came on. Anyway, I went back to the supermarket. Probably even more of a problem going to the supermarket twice in a day.

Josh: Wait, so he had like earbuds?

Tommy: Yeah, earbuds in. That was it.

Josh: With a friend?

Tommy: With a friend. I was like, weird, mate. Why do you— I mean, that's— I see young kids doing it. Where they're just like in their own zone listening to some music while with a mate.

Josh: Engrossed in an audiobook.

Tommy: Yeah, hope so. I went back again later that morning, later that day, and I see those two guys there still. I'm like, weird, mate. This is either coincidence that they forgot something and they've come back at the same time as me. Then I sort of saw them lurking around. I watched what they were watching, and they were watching this sort of junkie-looking dude who was getting spoken to by a security guard.

Josh: So they're in the Woolworths?

Tommy: Both.

Josh: Yeah. I imagine they were near the herb set, like near the greenery for some reason.

Tommy: They were right near the counters. Nah, they were just like looking and sort of talking together still with these headphones in. And so there's a sweet lady who works sort of near the sort of self-serve checkout. Real nice. I said to her, what are those guys about? She said, I said, are they undercover? She said, yeah, they're actually like hired to be. I said secret shoppers, but they're hired to be in the supermarket. Looking as normal as can be.

Josh: What suburb are you in at this point?

Tommy: Abbotsford. It's right here. I mean, and so what they do is they're employed by the supermarket chain. They're not police officers, but they have more powers than the security guards. Security guards for some reason. And so training. Yeah.

Josh: They got torch on them?

Tommy: Nah. Yeah. No, no torch, mate.

Josh: It's pretty funny. And so what, like, what were they? What do they look like?

Tommy: I mean, Do you want me to give you a full profile?

Josh: Like, no, like a hoodie.

Tommy: No, young dudes just look like they were literally in there stopping past to get a bit of lunch. Don't look rough, look clean.

Josh: So, do you think they were listening to something on the headphones from the—?

Tommy: No, I think it's just a decoy. A look. Decoy. They were good, though. Undercovers.

Josh: But one of the best decoys I've seen actually last night, went down a rabbit hole. Bree was out to dinner with friends.

Tommy: Oh, you know, it gets naughty.

Josh: Yeah. And so, I was watching old episodes of Cops. Where a clown is an undercover cop soliciting prostitutes.

Tommy: So— So, hang on. Let me just— He's in a clown costume.

Josh: He's in a full clown costume.

Tommy: And going up to prostitutes who are working on the street and saying, "How much?" He's in a—

Josh: He's in— Yeah, he's in— And like, it sounds funnier than watching it. When you watch it, it's actually just sad. Sad. Yeah. But I think cops in general, like as a kid, Cops is very funny. Even like the show.

Tommy: Oh, the show. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's like it was based in America, whereabouts in the States?

Josh: They did it everywhere. This one was in Florida. Okay.

Tommy: And so, you do see that the different locations brought on different sort of vibes and— But yeah, the music. I mean, it's entertainment. It's television. Yeah.

Josh: And so, they're like—

Tommy: Coming up after the break, did the cop get full service or did he take them? —To the stables.

Josh: Well, so anyway, they— Like, it's very full-on. He's in a van, the clown dressed up as a clown with like a sign like Coco the Clown on the side. And he comes up, he's— And he like, he's acting like a clown. He's like, oh, hey, how you doing? Why don't you just come on in? And then he's like— And then he does this thing where he's like, oh, how about How about some oral sex? And then he's got like, and then I'll— and he's got like a, um, silly string. He's like, and then maybe I'll squirt some. Like, it's clearly they're going for like— I wonder if they're filming. Are they really going to this amount of effort?

Tommy: Well, I mean, that at this point a producer has been in on the meeting, like a television producer. How do we make these segments better? Yeah.

Josh: And they're like, oh, no one's suspects that the cops are going to go to that sort of effort dressing up as a clown. And so then they would— he would get them in the car. And the thing is, this is like, they're targeting people who have no money. I know. They're, they're, um, dependent on drugs. Yeah. They're like fucking, like, charging $36 for everyone.

Tommy: They're not wanting to do what they're doing.

Josh: Exactly.

Tommy: The, the show that Uh, what's it called? To Catch a Predator. Yeah. I mean, that makes sense. That makes sense. Just make these guys look like absolute fuckheads because they are. These women are just fucking trying to earn a bit of coin, and it's very fucking sad. It's amazing that they still— what I've always wanted to know is how do they get away with the permission to use it? I mean, Amy's cousin was on RBT. One of your favourite stories. It's so good. I didn't even—

Josh: just behind Carrie Bick—

Tommy: seeing Carrie Bickmore. That was great. That's a highlight.

Josh: Every time I go past the Como Centre, I'm always trying to—

Tommy: I reckon you've mentioned that I saw Kerry Bickmore more than I mentioned that I saw Kerry Bickmore.

Josh: You mentioned it 3 times in one day. I reckon twice.

Tommy: And it doesn't count if I'm telling different people. It's if I told you the same story.

Josh: It's a classic case of when you're close to someone, you hear their bullshit storey many, many times.

Tommy: Well, I mean, you do really. It's true though. Yeah. Oh yeah. I wish I had a camera on me eye rolling the times that you bring up a storey that you've told George 4 times. And you just told George.

Josh: Just told George. Like what? Name one.

Tommy: I don't know. Just one from your past. Get this. My family.

Josh: But George reacts every single time. That's why.

Tommy: That's why he will win employee of the month.

Josh: Yeah, he's great. I've also gotten into— Have I spoken for my love of country music on the show?

Tommy: Yeah, but take it away, Dad. Go for it, Dad.

Josh: Well, I mean, you say that, but there's many, many people around the world that love country music. Yeah. And so, your love of hip-hop is as silly as my love for country. No, it is.

Tommy: It is. It's interesting.

Josh: Because you're like, we're both as out of the scene. Yeah.

Tommy: As the other. What do you— So, I do like the music. Do you actually like the music? Love it. I think it's— So, I do like hip-hop. And as you got in this morning, I was showing the, the team just the, uh, the, the scene, the culture at the moment within drill rap. Aussie hip-hop.

Josh: What is drill rap?

Tommy: I don't even know how to explain what drill rap is. It's a new phenomenon. It's, um, on TikTok. Sydney rappers have really, uh, brought drill rap to the forefront, and I might be even talking out of school here, but that's how I've discovered it, and that's how a lot of young kids are. 1Four, HP Boys, maybe not even HP Boys, Hooligan Heffs. There's a few to name.

Josh: Well, I just wanted to also correct you. I think it was yesterday's show. You talked about a simp and—

Tommy: Well, we were trying to work it out and I said, is it a simpleton? Like, is it? Yeah.

Josh: Well, you, I think you called one of us a simp. Yeah. And then I said, rightly so, if you're going to use the word, what does it mean? Yeah.

Tommy: But I was still right. You are.

Josh: Yeah. But Gronkh Liv emailed us and she said a simp is someone who it's like is fallen over. Do you say fallen over heels? Head over heels. You're really into someone and you're being a bit of a simp. It's like when you just become a bit like you ditch your mates.

Tommy: It's almost a cuckold for the Gen Y or the Gen Z. Yeah. So it's like the you'd do anything, you'd dog your mates to do something. I mean, I didn't even think it was relating to like relationship. But it could even just be like you want to impress a dude that you, you know, like a bit of a man crush on somebody and you'd actually have a simp with Peter Shepherd. Yeah, you would. You're a simp. You would ditch me for Hamish Blake. Sure. Yeah, I'm a simp. Absolute simp.

Josh: And I'll ditch you for George Lund. Or cuckold. We're losing lights at a rapid rate. Are you noticing that? It's flicking.

Tommy: It's all this simp chat.

Josh: Yeah, you'll have to watch the, uh, the video as we go into darkness.

Tommy: You wouldn't even see. Yeah, it'd be quite a funny episode. We should do an episode in the dark. And so anyway, I, um, uh, yeah, you're country music, you're into the culture, you're seeing what it is, you're exp— I mean, that it becomes the first thing when you become obsessed with something. You're like, me personally, or just everyone? No, I think probably you and I. I can't speak for anyone else, but like really invested in what it all means and like thinking about country music being around for a long time. Drill rap hasn't. Yeah, it's like there's a whole sort of back end to country music that you can explore and see where its origins came from. It's interesting.

Josh: Do you remember me talking about Bobby Bones? Yeah.

Tommy: Bobby Bones is a radio presenter from Texas, isn't he?

Josh: Or no, he's Tennessee. Tennessee. Yeah, but syndicated. The biggest country DJ in the world. Like a country radio announcer. Yeah. And he's actually on Australian— Sorry, American Idol as well. Yeah. He's sort of the guy that he would be sort of the James Mathison, Andrew G sort of person. Or a Ryan Seacrest country version.

Tommy: Yes. Yeah. Spot on. Like he even looks similar, like a similar vibe.

Josh: Anyway, I— The reason I love country. Why do you love sledgehammer rap or whatever? Drill rap.

Tommy: I like seeing Aussies take the stage. Like, I like seeing how—

Josh: Do you like the Olympics? But I actually like the music.

Tommy: I grew up listening to heaps of hip-hop rap. And so, I like, I appreciate someone who's a good lyricist.

Josh: So, it's the lyrics. You like the lyrics. Can you bring up the lyrics of the song that you were— Oh, yes. So, let's do a bit of a lyric comparison. So, I'll read you my favourite song at the moment. It's called Knockin' Boots. It's by a guy named Luke Bryan. Unfortunately, he, whilst he does perform it, he didn't write it. I learnt yesterday when I was watching an interview. But these are the lyrics. This truck needs a half tank. These wheels need a two-lane. This radio needs three songs to play to get me across town to you. That dress needs to slip up. That hair needs to come down. Friday nights need to do what Friday nights need to do. That's the truth. Yeah, birds need bees and ice needs whiskey. Boys like me need girls like you to kiss me. Fishing in the dark needs nitty-gritty under that pale moon. Sweet tea needs that sugar stirring. Small town nights need that, needs both ends burning. Shades need drawing, hearts need falling, boots need knocking. Knocking boots, knocking boots, me and you. And it goes on.

Tommy: Let's hear you. This is, uh, I'm not saying I like this song, I respect it.

Josh: Oh, you had pumping when I was coming in, was that the one?

Tommy: That was the one I was showing the film clips. This is by Hooligan Heffz. No Effect. Never forgive, never forget. Twisted thoughts run through my head. They used to diss, now show respect. Okay. Still show them disrespect. Not that type to pout and pose, but when I pose, I pose a threat. No rhyming. Say it how it is, my mouth has no filter. Still yelling, no effect. Don't sit on the fence, I play offense. Playing for keeps, I'm till the end. Send for me, I'm heaven-sent. Fuck him, send him off for 10. I try not to re-offend, but if it kicks off, frontlining. I was in prison, trapping in the system. Had those friends in the pod smiling. They know I'm OC when I sit in court. Never say— I don't know. Never half-hearted, no remorse, can't take the loss. Yeah, I'm a bad sport. I don't play soccer, but I shoot and score. Can't handle a loss. Yeah, I'm a bad sport. I don't play soccer, but I shoot and score. It's really insight into the So, that's country.

Josh: So, mine was country, yours was drill. Yeah. As a comparison, this is the top song pop. Let's see if pop music's any different. So, this is Driver's Licence by Olivia Rodrigo. Who is that? She's one of the biggest artists right now. Oh, yeah. This is the number one. If I go into number one song on Apple Music.

Tommy: Yeah. Spotify. Yeah. No, I have seen that. I've seen that song.

Josh: I got my driver's licence last week, just like we always talked about, because you were so excited for me to finally drive up to your house. But today I drove through the suburbs crying because you weren't around, and you're probably with that blonde girl who always made me doubt. She's so much older than me. She's everything I'm insecure about. She's— Okay, that's good. Yeah. Today I drove through the suburbs, 'cause how could I ever love someone else? And I know we weren't perfect, but I've always felt this way for no one. And I just can't imagine how you could be okay now that I'm gone. Guess you didn't mean, uh, what you wrote in that song about me. He must be a singer. 'Cause you said forever. Now I drive alone Past your street and all my friends are tired of hearing how much I miss you. But I kind of feel sorry for...

Tommy: That's, I mean, that is every, everyone who's had a breakup. As if you haven't.

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: As if you haven't had the suburbs. As if you haven't driven back down past the local haunts where you'd hang out with your miso, your partner. And you're just like, I miss them. I wonder how they are. I mean, when you read it back, you hear a story. I mean, the storey from Hooligan Heffs is that they're a bad sport. They don't like soccer. You know, they spend a bit of time in the clique. They were the joker and they would make all the other guys in the prison laugh. Yeah, it's a really, it's a sweet, sweet tale of self-awareness.

Josh: Is there any old song, like if you go old school, Any— okay, I'll tell you.

Tommy: Last night, um, I was at the gym, bench pressed 100, by the way.

Josh: Just literally popping your, um, what are they called?

Tommy: Pecs. Pecs. You know how we're talking, I think it was yesterday, about how breaking past the 100-kilogram bench is something that is like— is breaking a barrier in your mind. You're like, I can do it. Did it last night by myself. Well done. Um, but I was listening and R. Kelly was on.

Josh: And is he being canceled? He's in jail, son.

Tommy: He's a fucking pest. And, and not even allegedly, is a pest. So creepy. Like the lyrics of him. Like, I'm about to put my key in and turn the ignition. That's hot and fresh out the kitchen.

Josh: That's a song about cars. Mama rolling this body.

Tommy: I got man's in the woods.

Josh: Whatever the fuck. When he's sipping on coke and rum.

Tommy: I'm like, so what, I'm drunk?

Josh: I actually know the lyrics.

Tommy: It's the freaking weekend, baby. I'm about to have some fun. It's like so creepy.

Josh: It's like, what's the toot toot mean? He's just hitting the button.

Tommy: But it's when you think about what he's gone on to do and the time, like, it's fucked. We should have been on to that guy a very long time ago. Freak show. Oh, but I will say, while we're on music chat, Adele has, uh, broken up with her hubby. She shedded more than her husband.

Josh: Oh, if we're not the most topical radio show, right? No, but you can talk about the lyrics.

Tommy: Well, it's very topical for what—

Josh: no, this is not— this is why I like it.

Tommy: It seems like we've had some sort of production meeting where it's like, let's talk about lyrics and let's get to the storey about how Adele has, you know, been told that in her —what do you call it?—a divorce. Yeah. In the agreement, she can't sing about the breakup. I mean, what's she going to sing about? Yeah. Her weight loss, maybe. It could be just like—

Josh: But also, like, couldn't she just talk about a breakup and it's just about someone else?

Tommy: Yeah, true. I wonder to the extent that's— It's a weird one, how you'd have to play that.

Josh: I'm just trying to find Rolf Harris lyrics because I feel like that has some pretty good lyrics. Oh, you're on the Sex Pests. Yeah. Yeah.

Tommy: What was the— He did Tiny Kangaroo Down. Yeah, that was him. What's, what's that?

Josh: Just write Tiny Kangaroo Down. Tiny, is it? It's not Tie Me Kangaroo Down. Tie a kangaroo down. Tiny. No, it is. You, you are spot on. Tiny. So, the lyrics. Let's see if there's anything. Let's see if we can wobble board. Is he in jail? I don't know. There's an old Australian stockman lying dying and he gets himself up onto one elbow and he turns to his mate mates who are all gathered around and he says, watch me wallabies feed, mate. Watch me wallabies feed. What does he mean here, do you think? They're a dangerous breed, mate. So, watch me wallabies feed. All together now. Time me kangaroo. No, it is Thai.

Tommy: Thai? Thai.

Josh: No, it's literally Thai the whole time. It is not No, I'm not saying—

Tommy: I'm not arguing with it, but— No, no. But don't sing it. Say it because I don't like you singing. Okay, sorry.

Josh: Tie me kangaroo down, sport.

Tommy: Okay, so he's talking to—

Josh: Tie me kangaroo down. Tie me kangaroo down, sport. I'm going to translate.

Tommy: Could you please tie my kangaroo down, Kevin?

Josh: What about this next one? Keep me cockatoo cool. Curl, keep me cockatoo cool. Ah, don't go acting the fool, Curl. I think I'm saying Curl's name wrong. Just keep me cockatoo cool. All together now.

Tommy: Are you saying, are you adding that in? Like, all together? No, it says that there.

Josh: That's the song. Okay. Yeah. And then finally, how many people have we lost?

Tommy: No, no, it's funny. Okay. I'm interested.

Josh: Take me koala back, Jack. Take me koala back. He lives somewhere out on the track, Mac. So, take me koala back. All together now. And it goes into the Tiny Kangaroo. So, it's not Tiny Kangaroo.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, I'd make it up. We'll make up the words.

Josh: R. Kelly's Ignition. Tan me hide when I'm dead. "Fred, tan me hide when I'm dead." So, skin me.

Tommy: Skin me. Which is very illegal, even if you do have a friend that just passed away and then you skin them. Isn't that funny? Like, if a friend dies of natural causes, you can't just like have them turn me into a taxidermy.

Josh: You can't. Can't. Did you know about Larry King, the famous interviewer? Yeah. He wanted to be frozen.

Tommy: Did he? Frozen for what reason?

Josh: Future, future to be brought back in the future. He didn't believe in sort of the afterlife. And so, he thought—

Tommy: Like, yeah, I don't know. It doesn't— He doesn't seem one that would be like a go-to freeze.

Josh: No, just freeze and die a bit earlier.

Tommy: Like, it's sort of like if you're going to— Steve Jobs frozen. Yes. Like, that's a guy you freeze. Yeah. Walt Disney?

Josh: He's frozen, isn't he?

Tommy: Well, that's the—

Josh: That's the rumour. The rumour.

Tommy: What about one of these Adeles? Elon Musk, you freeze him.

Josh: What's Adele singing about at the moment? Adele song.

Tommy: When has she released music? So, the latest one.

Josh: So, there was Hello, which is a classic.

Tommy: I think everyone knows what she sings.

Josh: When We Were Young. I just want to know, like, When We Were Young.

Tommy: I mean, this is where it will get boring. But don't you think that Will's lyrics are quite like— What? Just—

Josh: Everybody loves the things you do, from the way you talk to the way you move. Everybody here is watching you because you feel like home. You're like a dream come true. But if by chance you're here alone, can I have a moment before I go? 'Cause I've been by myself all night long. Yeah. Hoping you're someone I used to know. Yeah. You look like a movie. You sound like a song. My God, this reminds me of when we were young. Let me photograph you in the light in case it is the last time that we might be exactly like we were before we realised we were scared of getting old. It made us restless. It was just like a movie. It was just like a song. I was so scared to face my fears. Nobody told me that you're here. And I'd swear you moved overseas. Sounds— Doesn't sound like lyrics, does it?

Tommy: I mean, that's the thing about it. Anything we're reading can sound a bit silly. And it's until you put a good beat behind it, tune.

Josh: I can't even think about the tune. Like, what is it? You still like a— You still look like a movie. You still sound like a song. Stop it.

Tommy: Yeah. There was one line in that that's the main— What's the song?

Josh: When We Were Young. When We Were Young.

Tommy: When we were young. That's literally the— Isn't it amazing that you could find, say, I always think about like, I always think about like if you could go back in time and you had lyrics in your head and you could go to an artist and say, Adele, or, you know, I know you're—

Josh: That's what I love about Taylor. Taylor Swift. So Taylor Swift. Can we just do one Taylor Swift song?

Tommy: Is it too much? Yeah, it's too much. We've gone too far. We got— it's Fat Fridays. We haven't even talked about it. I just got a little something on the way into work.

Josh: American Pie. I love those lyrics, by the way. I don't even know. And they were singing the film, or is that a—

Tommy: No, no, no.

Josh: You know how they say about like, um, bye bye, Miss America, who sung it though? Drove my Chevy to the, um, uh, what's his name?

Tommy: But you're singing it. The lyrics themselves would be like—

Josh: That is one of the songs that as a kid I was like, um, so it was about a plane crash.

Tommy: Uh, yeah, but have you walked through the valley of the shadow of death?

Josh: So a long— That's right. So I'll just— I know this song very well and it actually—

Tommy: You don't sing it because—

Josh: Okay, I won't sing it, but this sounds like a storey without singing. Don't give it any tune to it. So a long, long time ago. Yeah, talk like you're talking about it. I can I can still remember how that music used to make me smile. Oh, yeah. And I knew I had a chance that I could make those people dance and that maybe they'd be happy for a while. Oh, that's nice. But February made me shiver with every paper I delivered. Yeah. Like bad news was on the doorstep and I just couldn't take one more step. I can't remember if I cried when I read about his widow bride. Something, it just touched me deep inside the day the music died. So, bye-bye. Miss American Pie. I drove my Chevy to the levee, but the levee was dry. And then good old boys were drinking whiskey and rice, singing This Will Be the Day That I Die. Did you write the book of love? Yeah. And did you have faith in God above? If the Bible tells you so. I mean, now you do believe in rock and roll. Can the music save your mortal soul? And can you teach me how to dance real slow?

Tommy: Mate, you've actually just put a lot on me, and it's, uh, it's too much.

Josh: Don McLean. Um, yeah, I get it, I get it. And so it was all about, um, some, some people that died. And so he was talking about— he was delivering the newspapers.

Tommy: Yeah, in February when it's winter in the States, and he was worried about delivering bad news per every newspaper. I mean, newspapers are full of horrible stories.

Josh: Such a long song. He says, and for 10 years we've been on our own, and moss grows fat on a rolling stone. Yeah. But that's not how it used to be. When the jester sang for the king and queen in a coat he's getting on from James Dean and a voice that came from you and me. Well, I don't think that's true.

Tommy: And while the king was looking down, well, the king wouldn't have got James Dean's jacket. The king. How? Where? What king? It's very creative, though.

Josh: I like it. I know. Okay, so what's for Fat Friday? Sorry, everyone.

Tommy: A new bakery has opened up in Bulleen. Which I was very surprised because it used to be another café that I thought, meh. And then all of a sudden, even my brother mentioned, oh, that French place. And I was like, what French place? Anyway, it's across the road from my gym. But look at this.

Josh: Oh my God. I've never seen a croissant.

Tommy: It looks like it's had just like chocolate injection alongside it with like a, one of those bags.

Josh: Well, Charlotte from France will have something to say about this.

Tommy: She's— Well. It could be an absolute bastardization. One each? No, I just got one of those. I want you to just take a bite because I know you're a chocolate guy and I want to get your take on it. Here we go. Oh, he's doing the shatter thing again. We've got it on camera. He's got it on the bag too. Oh, what's it like? What's the chocolate like? What's the croissant like? That is so good. It is? Can I bite the other end, big boy?

Josh: At the same time?

Tommy: No, just— I will.

Josh: Can you, um, keep— I want the rest.

Tommy: So I'll just have one bite.

Josh: Here you go. Oh wow, it's bullshit, isn't it? What else have you got?

Tommy: I've just got a normal croissant, which I'll have, but Oh, now we need to get a few, um, cold brews and they'll go down nicely. Mm, we've lost Josh.

Josh: No, that's, that's really good. Isn't that freaky? It's like chocolate icing in the middle.

Tommy: That's amazing. You don't have to finish it on camera, but I think we're done for the day after that croissant. We're not working.

Josh: That's really good. That is real good. I have chocolate on my face. Yeah, you do.

Tommy: But that's sign of a good croissant, full of chocolate.

Josh: All right, can I just say, um, thank you Charlotte for your, um, email. It was lovely. Um, we'll get to it during, during the week because I'll, I'll fuck it if I read it all now. Yeah, she sent us some beautiful photos, um, where she's, uh, been hanging.

Tommy: Oh, in France?

Josh: Over in, in, um, yeah, in a view on Cairns Bay, snow-capped Alps during the mimosa season. What's a mimosa season? A mimosa? Well, I did—

Tommy: When you think of mimosa, you think of orange juice and champagne.

Josh: Mimosa season is the first flower to bloom every year.

Tommy: Yeah, so that's where I went. Mimosa season, it's just like us saying fucking get beers season. It's fucking drinking season. It's a bit different over there.

Josh: Reminds me of the song I Wonder Why Margarita by—

Tommy: I wonder where mimosa, the drink, the name came from. If mimosa season's about the flower, I don't know, maybe mimosa. I mean, the thing that Charlotte has helped us with is understanding culture. Yeah, exactly. And what Australians are butchering when it comes to French culture.

Josh: Classic cocktail history on the website.

Tommy: All right, here we go. Mimosa. Mimosa. The difference between mimosa season. And the drink mimosa.

Josh: So, the drink is also made with champagne and orange juice, but with a larger quantity of the wine. It's believed that 4 years later in 19— So, I can go back. Like most classic cocktails and many popular American dishes, there are a lot of legends regarding the true origins of the mimosa. A drink called Buck's Fizz was invented in 1921 at the Buck's Club. In London. This drink is also made with the champagne, what I just said before. It is believed that 4 years later, in 1925, a bartender at the Ritz Hotel in Paris named Frank Meier— I've been there— invented the mimosa, which uses equal parts sparkling wine and juice.

Tommy: Doesn't answer your question, but I mean, I've been to the Ritz. Went in to have a drink. So, Paris. Went in to have a drink. The guy I was with had thongs on. We had to leave.

Josh: That's annoying. Which mate? Mitch Catlin. In Paris?

Tommy: Yeah, we were in Paris.

Josh: Did they not know who he was? He fucking would be able to do that in Melbourne, surely.

Tommy: But it was hot. You know, Paris gets real fucking hot. So, we ended up just finding a nice little, you know, outside area. It was beautiful. Beautiful. But the Ritz, it's nice to walk past the Ritz. And to understand how much history is in a place like France. I mean, you've got nice things in Australia, but the history, hearing and the mimosa that we all drink, some of us. I mean, I don't really drink them. I've had some, but understanding where it's come from and knowing that I've been there tickles me. All right.

Josh: Well, enjoy your weekend, everyone. And we'll see you on Monday. Have a great weekend.

Tommy: Where are you looking? Where were you looking? You were looking over, really eyeballing the down here.

Josh: No, I actually wasn't looking at anything. Thinking in my mind. No. I thought you had spotted something.

Tommy: I thought you had made eye contact.

Josh: Maybe I should do a Red Simons. Just do a show where I just don't look at all. Just look down. Where would you like me to look?

Tommy: Down the barrel? At my eye. Say bye to me.

Josh: Bye, everyone. Enjoy your Friday. Enjoy the weekend. And we'll see you on Monday. Stay safe, everyone.

Tommy: Love you guys. Bye.