Picnicked Out

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 894.

Tommy: What is happening, Gronks? What's going on? Happy Monday.

Josh: Uh, good morning, Tommy Jackett. Uh, how was your, uh, weekend?

Tommy: It was sharp, just like my haircut.

Josh: Oh, did you get a haircut? I didn't even notice. How rude of me.

Tommy: What, what an experience. What an experience. In a good way, you know, like I In a new way.

Josh: In a new way.

Tommy: In a new way. Well, what's new is the hairdresser that I went to, I'm cheating on my current hairdresser who's actually a good mate of mine.

Josh: Outside of 25K, would it be?

Tommy: Well, well, nah, it's inside, but I just, I knew that he'd be booked for weeks and there would be a bit of an issue with when I could get in. And I get to the point where I'm like, I need a haircut yesterday. And so I need it. I need to be at the next hairdresser and just get this thing done. And so Amy was having a nap and I took Bodhi and we went down to Bullene Plaza. Now this is me accepting the fact that I could walk out looking like I've tripped and fallen under a mower. Like that's, you know, you don't know who you're gonna get.

Josh: That was the risk.

Tommy: That's the risk. That's the risk. I look like I fell under a pretty great mower, if I do say so myself. But Bouleane Plaza has 4 hairdressers in it. And this is like, one's an old style barber that's been there for, you know, centuries. Another one's kind of like an add-on to a nail salon. It's like the, you know, the Indian restaurant that also does pizza. It's like a bit of a sort of eclectic mix. And then the other 2 are just whatever. But I went to this one because it was the best looking. Like visually appealing. And it was—

Josh: What was it called?

Tommy: Cash Only. Can't remember. Cash Only.

Josh: Yeah. Wasn't like a franchise sort of thing. This was, it wasn't like a Just Cuts or something like this. This is a family sort of business.

Tommy: Yeah, that's why I kind of respect it that it's, you know, just trying to do their best. And so Bodie and I, like I walked in, the lady offered Bodie candy straight away. I was like, we're onto a winner here. And so she said about 40 minutes. And so I said, no worries. We had nothing to do, it was a Saturday arvo. It's like 4 PM. So we sat down on the couch, Bodhi got stuck into some, you know, monster trucks on my phone, was eating some candy. I'm sitting there.

Josh: What sort of candy is he eating? What sort of like?

Tommy: Oh, Daimler. I've got one here. Oh, here you go. They're called Daimler. Daimler. Daimler. Daimler.

Josh: You went hard.

Tommy: They were speaking another language, the hairdressers, and I sounded great. And I asked, what language are you speaking? Persian. And these lollies, I think, are Persian, and they're fucking phenomenal.

Josh: Did you bring up a Kashmiri badam jamun? Did you say, oh, my mate loves Kashmiri badam jamun?

Tommy: I felt like— yeah, I've got a buddy who, uh, yeah. Um, but then I started observing, like, the pressure they were under. So in Melbourne, the, the hairdressers haven't been open for 10 weeks, whatever, for a very long time. And so these places are flat out. The barber down this you know, 20 metres down the corridor had a line of 20 people waiting. It's ridiculous. Crazy. And so that you got to think about the mindset, the mental state of the hairdressers. There was— I started sort of observing. So there's— I could— I observed that there was a guy who ran the joint who was cutting hair, and then there was a junior, and this junior had an AirPod in one ear and, you know, was doing his thing. I observed a, a gentleman who had a probably 12-year-old in the seat. He came up and was just— he was backseat hairdressing at its finest. Like, he was— you should have heard him. No, no, a bit more here. If you just use your clippers and you get there, they'll be great. Like, no, no, about— like, it was this— he rattled this junior to the point where by the end of it, the senior hairdresser had to step in and finish the haircut because he— because this kid, this guy was so rad. I felt so bad for him, but immediately I'm like, I don't want him. If I get him, I'm fucking— I was like, I'm willing to throw— because Bodhi was getting a haircut too. I was like, if this comes to the point where it's gonna be, you know, like, better him than you, 100%. His will grow back. I'm fucking at the end of me life. I'm, you know, down further down the road. Somehow it all happened. This guy went for timeout out the back because it all got a bit much, that I got, I got given the guy who runs the joint.

Josh: Oh great.

Tommy: And so it was fate. And then I've walked out paying $50 for my haircut, for Bodhi's haircut. But I will say Bodhi got his haircut last, and there was something about children. Like, you, I saw how stressed that young bloke was by the end of Bodhi having his hair cut, he was being so sweet and just making everyone laugh. And the vibe like had gone from this intense, you know, everyone's stressed, to just Bodhi giggling when he's getting his little haircut and everyone just laughing and laughing.

Josh: He's a little manipulator.

Tommy: He got about 17 candies.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he got—

Tommy: he was fired up. But But by the end of it, I was like, this is so sweet. Like hairdressers, you know, they're gonna need a holiday in the next couple of weeks. But it's, yeah, it's a wild state in the hairdressing world at the moment.

Josh: Do you know what Oshis actually are?

Tommy: Other than landfill?

Josh: What? No, like, so they're actually—

Tommy: Rubber?

Josh: Rubber. They've actually got a purpose.

Tommy: Oh, yes, yes, yes. They're meant to be on the end of a pencil.

Josh: Yeah, they're pencil toppers.

Tommy: Pencil toppers that no one's ever used on top of a pencil.

Josh: I only just discovered because they've got a hole, like a hole for it. It's amazing that they haven't taken off as, uh, the sort of the utility, which is that—

Tommy: well, I also did think that it could be something to do with the mold. If you think about it, they need a— like, is there a hole on the bottom because they're stuck into a little mould that then pulls them out?

Josh: Serious conspiracy theories.

Tommy: Yeah, look, just because I've not seen anyone ever use them.

Josh: Yeah, but I would actually get around it more for the pencil type of thing. But then you wonder if you have an eraser at the end, what's that like? Is it covering the eraser? You're gonna have to take it off every time.

Tommy: And then you wonder if you're still using pencils, what's wrong with yourself?

Josh: No, I like— like, I still use pencils for the— my good pencil sharpener is actually at the office. So, I need to sort that out, but I'm still using them to underline the books that I'm reading. Yeah, fair. I'm all picnicked out.

Tommy: I did see you had a little picnic.

Josh: Too many picnics. Good spread. 3 picnics this weekend. Too many. One Friday, one Saturday. Picnics. One Friday, one Saturday, one Sunday. Too many. Geez. Too many.

Tommy: What was it?

Josh: Was it—

Tommy: Did you— Did you imitate the first one or did you iterate? 'Cause you sort of went through, right?

Josh: They were all different. So the first one was the drinking in the park with Sev's and Grace in that little 200-meter spot. But the funny thing is we met up at the same park and then we realised when we were there, actually we've got 25 kilometers. Like we were still in our 5-kilometer, we'd gotten so used to it that we'd sort of— Yeah, yeah. You know, it's that whole thing, you know, you start to build a, you know, build a fence one way, then another way, and then you've trapped yourself in. But so, with Sev's, you know, having a bit of gin and throwing a bit of baseball, first baseball injury. To who? Sev's. So, this ball hit his face. I've got a photo we can put on Instagram. So, he, like, I threw it perfectly. He even— it hit the glove, but it hit his glove and then went and smacked him in the head. So, that was the first one. Then the second one, on Sunday, GB was all around the baseball thing going, mate, my gloves haven't arrived yet. I said, okay, you've got small hands anyway, you can use Breeze. And so, he was using Breeze gloves. He talks about it a lot. He brags about his tiny hands. Yeah.

Tommy: T-Rex.

Josh: Yeah, and, uh, and so we were, we were playing in Edinburgh Gardens, uh, on Sunday, and then GB just— I'm— we, we started really close. I'm like, let's go a little bit further out, so it's a bit further, like a further throw. He got silly, threw it really far. He thought that I wanted him to piff it, and so he threw it so far that it then was speeding along the grass and smashed into another picnic where they had all of their cutlery and their cups and all that sort of thing and made a lot of noise. And we just had to say sorry. They weren't impressed. And so—

Tommy: Lighten up a little bit. It's a picnic.

Josh: Well, that's what I was saying. Yeah.

Tommy: A bit on edge, though. People are a bit on edge.

Josh: It's— Where are you noticing it? What are you saying?

Tommy: Well, we went— the Adventure Club was on fire over the weekend. I mean, we went for 2 drives, mapped out our 25K radius and went to the limit.

Josh: How good is Christmas Lights going to be, by the way? Like, perfect thing, get in the car.

Tommy: Yeah, windows up, just aircon on and drive through. But we went to this place called St Andrews. Awesome. Like, we just discovered this little, little bakery, old pub that's there, not open obviously, but the bakery was.

Josh: St Andrews as in like coastal?

Tommy: No, no, there's a, um, there's an inland little suburb towards, towards Yarra, Yarra, the Yarra Valley. And, um, it, it was awesome. But this Bodhi was playing in puddles And you get sort of mixed reactions around people because I think you just think, imagine me in that puddle right now, fuck that. Yeah, I've gotten like, we give up. We're like, I'm like, no, no, no.

Josh: Ah, did you bring extra clothes for him? Did you think that it was going to happen?

Tommy: Didn't think it was going to happen. And puddles are like magnets for children. Yeah, they just see it and just jump straight in, get sucked in almost. And so completely wet. And then he was jumping in mud puddles, like his feet were— he said, it was cute. You know, a bunch of people loved it. He said, "My foot's missing." 'Cause one foot you couldn't see it 'cause it was in the puddle. But then like he was jumping in this water and this lady was just like, like her face just trying to get away from it. But it was just, you see, like, it was like the kid's having fun. It's not your child. You don't have to deal with it. Like it was raining.

Josh: Was she worried that she was going to get wet?

Tommy: I think she was worried that she was going to get a splash of water on her, but she was standing in the rain waiting for something. And so, you just see like, it's, you just see people like, "No," just on edge.

Josh: But there's so many people, like parks around Melbourne. We went to Jowls Park and it was sort of Knox Way. Is it Knox? Yeah. Within 25 k's.

Tommy: Huge.

Josh: Lines of cars. It was like some sort of— it reminded me of leaving the, um, the drag races. I remember as a kid, yeah, everyone was leaving at the same time.

Tommy: Less Jim Beam flags.

Josh: The fun thing about, um, the drag races is, is they had a radio station, so the commentators, you would tune into the, to the radio. I remember I loved seeing how far the radio would go. So as we were leaving, I would have the radio on full blast.

Tommy: How far does it go, do you reckon, back then? And it's a small signal.

Josh: 100 meters.

Tommy: Yeah, we're gone, we're 100. Yeah, um, crazy. You're right, the cars thing. There was— we went yesterday, Adventure Club, uh, went to the Dandenong Ranges.

Josh: Oh, beautiful.

Tommy: Like, just like Sassafras. Sassafras, the suburb. Goes in and out of our 25K. So like you drive down a road, you'd probably be out, and then you drive back into it just based on the sort of how Sassafras is, the road runs through it. It's kind of real windy. And so real on edge. Thought it was, you know, okay to do. We haven't done it, you know, in the time when it was only 5K, haven't less, you know, haven't done the wrong thing. So drove, get to the bottom of the mountain to sort of start going.

Josh: Were you with Sevs with this or no? Were you just—

Tommy: No, I was just hanging out with Bodhi.

Josh: Sevs did the same thing. And are you about to talk about the police?

Tommy: Dude, full roadblock. It is almost like they convince, you know, like if people have sort of had a drink or something and you're like still a bit worried to go through a booze bus.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: You're looking for flashing lights. This was roadwork signs.. And then you got into it and then you like go around the bend and then you're like, ah, there's the flashing lights, as in the police lights. And there was— it split you off into two lanes and it was not, you know, how a booze bus, you pull in and you just go through one side and they let the other cars through. Not like this. This is every car stopping at a roadblock is getting checked and asked, where are you from? What are you doing? What do you plan on doing? And And that's exactly what happened to us. They had the army, a few people from the army, and they had police. And we pulled in and they were nice. He said, um, oh, where are you guys off to? And we said, oh, just up to Dandenong. And he said, uh, where are you from? Oh, he said, yeah, he actually said, oh, you're doing some exercise? Said, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, where are you from? We said, Bulleen. He's like, yep, no worries. I said, oh, we're just on the edge. Of our 25K. I looked it up and he said, no worries, mate, trust you. And then, then went on. I think it's, you know, Bodhi had 6 kilos of heroin under his jumper.

Josh: No, no, no.

Tommy: But I think he sees the kid in the back and thinks, oh, that's, um, that's nice, that's nice. You know, like, you— they do it. They're not— it's almost like, I wonder what would— I wonder how Seb's went. Do we know if— like, he looks—

Josh: yeah. So he— so they— Jess also just slacked, no new cases today. I'm guessing that's in Melbourne. So, that's great. The, yeah, Sevs didn't get pulled over. So, he said that they got waved through, which I thought was interesting, given that I think that they would have been in Grace's car, which would have WA number plates. Yeah. So, don't you think that would even be more sus? I'd be pulling over any interstates.

Tommy: Yeah, because you— It's not registered to a local address. It can't be if it's international plates. Sorry, interstate plates.

Josh: It could be international the way WA going. They're sort of, they were announcing, you know, opening all the borders except WA. Really? Feel for Grace. Yeah, no, that's what ScoMo said a few days ago. He's like, oh, you know, plan to open the borders before Christmas, but WA aren't necessarily playing ball.

Tommy: I mean, what's the deal? If you did want to go back to WA and you're from there and you have residence there, you can— you just have to quarantine. You're going to fly in and quarantine.

Josh: I think you actually need to have a reason as well, potentially. Grace, if you're watching, let us know in the chat. But no, I think that it is— it— maybe Grace could go back, but Sev would have issues because they won't need to go back for, um, Grace's brothers.

Tommy: We can fast-track a marriage.

Josh: Yeah, definitely.

Tommy: Husband needs to come with. Yeah, yeah, um, you'd be a good celebrant, I reckon. Just this sort of, you know, bit, bit unusual, a bit like—

Josh: yeah, I would sweat too much, I think. Don't you think? Just like, why is the guy so sweaty? He's not even getting married. No, I would fucking hate it, to be honest. It's like, um, it's the court announcing— like, there is— like, I was thinking about that the other day. It's like, I do a lot of things that I don't like, like, that don't necessarily come natural. Yeah, the, um, you know, like Pete, like the whole, like, I do like being honest, like I was looking back at the, um, the episode 500, uh, event.

Tommy: Yeah, I was just thinking about looking through footage.

Josh: It's like the intensity, like I just feel the intensity of that, like it was a— don't you think it was quite intense?

Tommy: Well, yeah, it was all unusual for us because we'd never put on a live event like that. It was insane.

Josh: And then I decided to get us like a PA system and lights like a day before. And then we had to— Scooter Derek helped set up the lights. We're trying to get it, but we only knew one setting, otherwise it would strobe. And so we had to have this sort of like blue tinge, which sort of looked good.

Tommy: Well, I mean, it's this week a year ago that we celebrated episode 500. Really?

Josh: That's a good fact. Yeah.

Tommy: 29th of— Hang on. When was it? October. Yeah. 29th of October is when the episode went out. That's when we did it, actually. No, that's our—

Josh: No, this is right. Because we then went a couple of days later to the US. That's right. So, that all adds up.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: That was a big week for us, wasn't it?

Tommy: That was a huge week. That was when we had the luxury of just you know, putting on a live event with 100 people, then just jumping on a jet plane with another 300 people.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And just shooting across to Los Angeles. What a wild year. Yeah, the turnaround on that.

Josh: Well, episode 900 is, uh, on Sunday. Also happens to be November 1st, Mr. 97's 21st birthday.

Tommy: Wow.

Josh: I feel the pressure. Like, the thing is, I, um, I'm shocking at organising stuff ahead of time.

Tommy: I mean, we organised the episode 500 2 days out.

Josh: Yeah, it did. It felt like that. It was like that, wasn't it? We knew about it for a while, but for whatever reason, we just sort of got our shit together right at the end.

Tommy: Well, you know, pressure creates diamonds and it also pressure blows shit up. Has people forgetting to hit record on the recorder at episode 500. Hey, Sevs, that was you. You forgot to hit record, mate.

Josh: But then he fixed it. Like, so this was— he did his MC bit with Queen Gronkh, said his bit, and then, um, we said, oh, have you pressed record? This is because he came up to us just before about to go on stage, and you should have seen the panic. And he ran over, pressed record. So that would have been a nightmare if we didn't record. But, um, but yeah, so, uh, for, uh, Sevs's 21st One Trick Tony, Tony Lodge. Yeah, the podcast. Uh, they are celebrating Tony's 21st birthday because I don't know if you were aware, but, uh, about her 21st where she invited a bunch of people to a bar and no one showed up and she ended up at home in tears sitting on her— sitting in the shower. So, um, yeah, we were talking, uh Tony always says that, uh, Sevs makes the show about him. Uh, One Trick Tony said, uh, it's not One Trick Mason. That's a common, common bit of feedback. I said, what about if we took Sevs's 21st on One Trick Tony Show and made it about you, Tony, and it's, and it's your 21st? And so, um, if you go to our One Trick Tony Show on Instagram, you can see Sevs's, um been doing Insta storeys about the whole thing.

Tommy: Oh good.

Josh: Um, but we still need to get our shit together. We know what's—

Tommy: well, we will, and, um, we'll be organised Saturday evening before the big party. But something's happening, that's what we will say. Um, there was a lot of, uh, some good consumption over the weekend. There's a few good podcasts out. Uh, Matthew McConaughey So he's been doing it around since every—

Josh: I do know who Matthew McConaughey is.

Tommy: You do know him? Good, good, good. You know, traditionally rom-com guy, now, you know, epic Oscar-winning actor.

Josh: He actually didn't see his mum for a long time. I don't know if you have heard this, but he, um, when he became famous, his mum was going to all the papers, and yeah, he was actually, um, watching TV one night and his mum was giving a tour of his old bedroom, and he's just like, 'Mum, what are you doing?' And so they were estranged for a while there.

Tommy: Well, that's going to fracture any relationship without his permission. It's like, yeah, just leveraging his fame. It's all a bit weird. I think it's, it's weird for someone who becomes uber famous like him, let alone the parents around, you know.

Josh: Could you imagine doing that?

Tommy: I could.

Josh: I actually, I actually could, dude.

Tommy: I actually could. And I expect the shit out of it. Yeah, absolutely.

Josh: It's always like what Matthew McConaughey's mum has done is the thing that people think about but would never do, right? Yeah, it's a second thought. She just didn't have the second thought, which is like, oh, that's completely inappropriate.

Tommy: I listened to Gary Vee, I listened to Tim Ferriss and Joe Rogan, all who had, um, Matthew McConaughey on, and you could create the ultimate interview out of those three interviews, like just taking the bits that work the best. And they— because they all sort of come from a different— not even angle, they just think different things come up. But he's a fascinating dude. I really like him.

Josh: Kanye West on Joe Rogan, have you listened to that?

Tommy: Listen to that, the whole thing.

Josh: What'd you think?

Tommy: Have you listened to it?

Josh: Yeah, I listened to the first 10 minutes and the final 5.

Tommy: Yeah, I think that's probably gonna paint a bad picture. I think he's a guy that you, you— I mean, you don't have to give him anything, but if you give it the, you know, a chance to listen through, you get more of an understanding of his process, like his thought process, and how, however, you know, unique character he is. And so that's where it's like, I listened, but then I, you know, people post clips online of like bits where he's kind of just taking time to answer shit. And it makes him look really awkward. It makes him look like he's got nothing to say about something, but then he does come, come with a really great answer.

Josh: I don't know what it would look like to, um, be very curious to see leaders, uh, that have had huge amounts of responsibilities with, uh, mental health issues like bipolar. Like, how do you manage, how do you manage a country, uh, and sort of, uh, with a mental illness like that, like, how do you communicate, okay, this, this is like, you know, this— I'm in a good frame of mind, I can make these decisions. I wonder what would be required if someone with severe sort of, um, mental issues got into power. I guess we have that now with Trump.

Tommy: I know, it's just, how's it masquerading? Is it, um, You know, wearing a sort of a wig or, you know, what do you reckon?

Josh: Like, I wonder if there is— I was even thinking about like when Trump went into hospital and, um, he was on all those meds. It's like, at what point is he like, they saying, mate, you can't be making the decisions.

Tommy: Like, if he's going to be in care for days, they have protocol in there where they— I mean, I've watched enough sort of, you know, uh, presidential movies from CIA perspective where it's like the power, you know, they have to sign something. So The only person that did it, um, maybe Bush. He had anesthesia, um, and had to sign over power, like, to his, um, to his— what is it— his sidekick, the vice president. Like, so if anything happened while he's out, the other person gets to make decisions. So I don't know. I mean, it's a complex question. We should ask Kanye West. I'm sure he's got an answer for how he'd tackle it.

Josh: Talking about vice presidents, have you watched, uh, the new Borat film?

Tommy: Oh my God. It is the best.

Josh: That's great. The last— the Giuliani stuff.

Tommy: Oh my God, is it— it's, it's phenomenal. So Borat won, so that— I like that. But since he hasn't done a movie in, I think, 7 years or something, he's super famous now as that character. So I love that in the new film—

Josh: is this his third? Did he do one?

Tommy: And then Borat He did a— he— I'm pretty sure he's— I think he did The Dictator, and he's done a bunch of other stuff. Borat 2 is the one that's just come out. Yeah, Borat 2. And so he's— I mean, this is the thing, his character's been flying around, but the film— but he's like, people on the street, he can't— he can't be in that character because everyone knows who he is. He's famous for it. And so the film, what I think— I think— I don't think a lot— everyone will like it. They might think it's a bit cringe, but the, the taking, taking a moment to think about how this character he's formed is then dropped into real life situations. And I don't think all of them are real, what he's in, but you know, some of them are probably put together.

Josh: They're all like manufactured, but, uh, they're manufactured with a, a bunch of like real people in it, right? So you can see how like the QAnon guys, like, you don't just bump into someone that's a QAnon.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, but that leads through to a bit where it is real, where he's performing at this sort of rally where these, you know, these guys holding machine guns, and it's, you know, kind of like a far-right group, or, you know, it's, um, but what I did love is that end bit where he does have, uh, Donald Trump's lawyer, and he's obviously, you know, got him into a hotel room Under the impression it's an interview with this young girl that, you know, played, played by this young girl who's—

Josh: How amazing is she, by the way?

Tommy: Dude, have you looked into her? Yeah, she, she, he, he interviewed 600 girls and found her, and she's, she's Bulgarian, she's European. Yeah, and so she, she's like a fresh-faced actor, but, but he's doing these things with Borat which are hyper, you know, in the moment, high pressure. She killed it. She's a fucking freak. She's the best. But, um, that Giuliani can't sue Borat. I looked into the legal side.

Josh: Yeah, so what's it— because that's what you wonder with these things. And we have a few more minutes, by the way, um, because my meeting's just cancelled. So yeah, what's that— what's the deal?

Tommy: So this— so this— the scene in the film is the lawyer coming into a hotel room where this young girl who plays Borat's daughter in the film, um, is a journalist who is interviewing— who the premise is that Giuliani is going to be speaking about how Trump has led through this tough time. And so it's like his perspective on that. And, um, Giuliani's known as a bit of a, uh, you know, ladies' man, as you'd say, a bit of a creep in some respects. That's what people say about him. And this girl sort of, you know, in a tight dress, you know. Um, in the film they make her have big breasts because they say Giuliani likes girls with big breasts. And so it's like all meant to be kind of getting him going, to get him in a situation. Anyway, they do this interview and Borat comes in in another costume, you know, as a sound guy. And like, it's phenomenal. Like, when you think about the— this guy doesn't know what's happening.

Josh: So what's the— so how, how can he not sue them?

Tommy: Because he would have signed a disclaimer.

Josh: Sure.

Tommy: Over in the States, um, like a, like a rock solid, rock solid release form. And the only other angle would have been if, um, because there was all hidden cameras as well as the main cameras that was capturing what's going on. But in the States they have a, um, as long as it's some sort of law that if one person knows that there's been the recording happening it waives the rights of the other person, so you can secretly record people in, in America. I don't think that's the case here.

Josh: Well, so we were looking at this the other day with, um, uh, GB's prank. So did you, did you ever find out about this or no?

Tommy: Oh, I heard a little bit about it, but what happened?

Josh: Well, so GB, it involved— it involves you, so I don't know if we even said like— so GB, with you being away He prank called 7-Eleven, Channel 7, and who else? There was one other company basically saying, hey, if you've got any— oh, and Fitness First. Say, hey, it's my name's Tommy Jackett. He called Channel 7, said I was a host of the Ultimate Sprint Cars, just wondering if that's going to be airing soon. I'm also, I'm looking for more presenting work. So he called them.

Tommy: I know, who do you get through to? The switchboard?

Josh: Yeah, switchboard. And then he went to—

Tommy: James at the switchboard?

Josh: So then he went to 7-Eleven. He said, hey, you know, I did, you know, the coffee videos, just wanting to know what your next product's going to be because I'd love to do a video. And then he called Fitness First in Queensland saying, hey, Tommy Jacket used to be a PT, thinking of moving to Queensland. So he did all of this, it was great, he recorded it all. Uh, and so I think that in Victoria, I think this is how it works, it's the same thing. So as long as one of the parties involved is aware of the recording, you can record. But where it gets a little bit harder is from a broadcasting perspective. And so I'm guessing that's where the release form comes in with the Giuliani stuff, is it's like He signed a release form and it's like, then the other bit sort of figures out itself. And so I called up a couple of my mates who have worked in this sort of space a bunch around the prank stuff. And they said, oh no, they really should get permission. And so GB then called back all of them saying, hey. And all of them were like, nah, sorry bro, you little weirdo. No. So we've got, we can play it for you. And so You were asking me this morning, you said, hey, we've got a voicemail on our BMC phone number. Yeah. Asking for some prank thing. And so what happened is when you're away, I said, we can't play the prank call, but if you give us a call and leave a voicemail, GB will call you back and play out the prank so you can hear it.

Tommy: Oh, this is great because then if they recorded it and then released that, we can then sue them because we didn't give permission.

Josh: At that point, it's almost like, you know, they see the like the, um, Fuck Jerry Instagram accounts where they're always like, um, uh, referencing a, uh, like a another account, but it's actually like one that they've created or whatever so that it's sort of they're a little bit detached from the whole thing. So they're referencing it, but it's actually not the source.

Tommy: What's that for? Is it— Well, I think liability.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, because if you imagine like if you sort of have an in-between account that's separate to you and then you're referencing that, you can sort of get away with a bunch more.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, my hands are tied, it wasn't me.

Josh: Yeah, exactly. And so what's the, um, anything else that you've found out when you're Googling the Borat stuff?

Tommy: Oh, I mean, just that it seems— oh, is that he's never lost a lawsuit against him, so He obviously has really great lawyers that when he goes into these projects, because the first one was crazy, like this, the way he makes people look and, and the sort of the stupidity that comes out of some of these high-profiled individuals. And you could almost— you could all look and go, oh, it's a bit mean. Some of them are, you know, they're very mean individuals themselves, and he's obviously just pointing out what kind of a character they are. Um, but that aside, he hasn't lost a lawsuit. People have tried to sue him, and usually it doesn't get past the, like, the first submission of the, the suit. And when someone like— they just have to even look if they'll give it the time, and usually it gets thrown out. And it's— it's— I— they think it's based on some of these disclaimers or these, um, these release forms that they've created that would be Rock solid.

Josh: There's a, um, there's a, there's, there's a great, uh, show which I've spoken about before, uh, Nathan for You. Nathan Fielder, do you remember that?

Tommy: And yeah, yeah, watch together.

Josh: Yeah, he, he's done some funny things where he gets a, a lawyer to sign a release form, but it's not just a release form, it's got all of this other stuff in it too, like that the, um, that the lawyer would be held liable for all this stuff. Like, people don't read release forms. It's pretty crazy.

Tommy: I mean, Giuliani is a lawyer, a seasoned lawyer. Like, he's been around for a very long time. And so, he— it's amazing that it gets past him. Maybe it was the girl, you know, with balloons in her top that, you know, just could fool him. Silly bugger. What about driving yesterday, a suburb called Eltham near me, and Amy pointed out that there's a Nando's pizza and pasta restaurant.

Josh: Oh, really? Yes.

Tommy: And I just looked it up. Nando's Pizza and Pasta. Nando's, like, same with the little apostrophe S. Like, I was thinking maybe if they drop that and then just add the pizza and pasta on the end, they're not gonna get in any trouble. I mean, it's— it seems bizarre.

Josh: Well, there's a whole other moment, um, the, the, uh, Macca's are pissed off at Hungry Jack's because they've got the Big Jack. Yeah, it's called—

Tommy: they've— they have, uh, put a cease and desist.

Josh: Yeah, was it a cease and desist or was it actually a lawsuit?

Tommy: They want them to take it off everything. They want any, any recognition of it anywhere removed.

Josh: And so maybe Rami, who we've had on the show, uh, who founded Rashay's restaurants. Yeah, they've done a Big Mac Jack or Big Jack Mac, I can't remember, but it was sort of a— it was a bit of a troll. It's like both of— like both of them together. And he's also received a cease and desist for that. Yeah, for that, from both of them. Yeah, yeah. But the thing is, he loves it. Like, he's, um, uh, he was— he was on the, um, uh, on the T— on the telly about it, really talking about it.

Tommy: I mean, there's— that's— that's the win for him.

Josh: Yeah, exactly. Well, I think that's what he was going for.

Tommy: It's perfect. Just take it down, otherwise we will sue you. It's like, great, I've got all my money's worth. And, you know, Josh Janson's speaking about it, so, uh, we've, we've won.

Josh: It's a full one. Uh, uh, Gronka Sheridan, I believe— I haven't got my DMs— uh, she messaged me. Her dad was the first Qantas pilot to fly the A380. Wow. Uh, and, uh, with all the COVID shit that's happening, they're all like— pilots are out of work and all that sort of thing. And a bunch of the pilots are now, um, do it like, um, driving buses. And The Project have a storey on it tonight. She messaged me about it, but it looks very, very interesting.

Tommy: I gotta tell you what, it'd be the safest bus ride you'd ever take if you're capable of flying.

Josh: I hope they do the whole like, um You know, the PA. The temperature outside is currently 25 degrees.

Tommy: God, I wonder when that's going to happen. I was looking at some of that footage from when we went to the States, Josh, and it was us sitting on the, just in the big plane, the four, you know, the three seats, the three seats in the middle. And I was just like, look how close we all are. Look how, you know, everyone's just crammed in. What a time. Different time. I hope we get that back there quite quickly.

Josh: Great. All right, well, uh, it's a daily talk show. If you're, uh, in Melbourne in lockdown, hope you're doing okay. And all the other parts of the world as well. Uh, it's pretty crazy. I was looking, um, 80-something thousand cases in the States. Largest daily, um, daily number. So, uh, yeah, hopefully, uh You doing okay? Feel free to email us, hi@thedailytalkshow.com. If you enjoy the show, leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. Otherwise, anything else, Tej?

Tommy: Uh, you know, if you're, um, thinking about going to a new hairdresser, just put your trust, just, just let go. Just let go.

Josh: What's the worst that could happen? Yeah, we see the sides quickly.

Tommy: Yeah, real sharp.

Josh: Yeah, it looks great. Yeah, great. All right, see you tomorrow, guys. Have a good one. See you guys.