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Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 863.

Tommy: Happy Fat Friday, Gronkh. What's happening? What's going on?

Josh: You might hear some noise. So, it was, you know, this episode's a little bit rushed and I got a banana. That was what I was going to have in the pan.

Tommy: I'm pretty sure bananas have zero fat in them. And Fat Friday is the name of the game.

Josh: But no, it smells very banana. I reckon this banana that I'm holding could almost be used in banana bread. Don't you think it's almost ready?

Tommy: That's more of a Fat Friday product.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Does banana— I'm just saying, do bananas have fat in them? Probably. Yeah.

Josh: Anyway, you're getting bogged down.

Tommy: The—

Josh: so, Bree is, uh, she's making me a smoothie instead, but it's not really smoothie because it's got peanut butter in it. Oh, yeah. And so, that's what I'm having for this Fat Fridays. What are you having?

Tommy: Yeah, great. Look, I went to the supermarket and I haven't seen them on the shelves for a long time.

Josh: Which ones are they? Chocolate—

Tommy: What is it called? Chocotastic.

Josh: Chocotastic, you are.

Tommy: Yeah, mate. But the— You know what I'm more excited about? Reading to you the 10 things you didn't know about Pop-Tarts. Over the actual Pop-Tart itself.

Josh: This is probably good. My, uh, my drink doesn't look that appealing, does it? No.

Tommy: What smoothie does though, unless it's got ice cream and a cherry on top? Like, then it's not a smoothie, it's, it's a milkshake. And milkshakes look a lot more appealing.

Josh: Looks like a fucking, um, sick horse has ejaculated in a cup. That's how it— that's what it looks like right now. But, um, oh my God, it's delicious. Um, why is he sick? Because it's just like a little bit fucking off, isn't it?

Tommy: If a horse did that, it would be sick.

Josh: That's what I mean.

Tommy: It doesn't have to be sick.

Josh: What do you mean? I don't get what you're saying.

Tommy: I was just thinking about why he— why has the horse got an illness.

Josh: Yeah, I know. Well, look at it, don't you think? Anyway, so you're just putting your Pop-Tart in your mouth. What do you think?

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, it's, it's tarty, it's, it's sweet, it, it's 33 grammes of sugar per serve. That's exactly what this is.

Josh: Is it yummy?

Tommy: Um, look, I've been really great this week with what I've been consuming. I've, um, like, I, I think I just let it go. And, um, and I need to sort of pull my head in. And so this is the first sort of treat, and I, I regret it, to be honest.

Josh: I really, really— not a fan.

Tommy: I mean, they taste good, they taste good, but it's, um— these facts will sort of bring me back up, I think. So I, I won't— I'll just read the, the headline of each of the 10. I'll go through them, you stop me when you want me to sort of dive a bit deeper into them, okay? Number 1, they only exist because Post messed up a marketing campaign.

Josh: I want to know more.

Tommy: Okay, when 1964 began, Kellogg had no plans to make Pop-Tarts, but then arch rival Post, which I don't know Post, announced an exciting new product. It was a fruit-filled pastry that would— that wouldn't spoil and didn't even need to go in the fridge.

Josh: It's got to be good for you. Yeah, that's great. I'm probably better off drinking fucking horse cum at that point.

Tommy: Kellogg should have been cursing heavily under its breath. Only Post botched the product rollout in two major ways. One, after promising the pastry, Post took months tinkering with it in the lab, allowing Kellogg plenty of time to concoct its own version. Two, some Post execs decided to name the things Country Squares. Sounds dumb, right? In the '60s, squares were also dweebs, so customers immediately thought of lame bumpkins, making the name even more disastrous. That's interesting.

Josh: That's great. And so, so that's number 1. Number 2? Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: Are they— they— Post came out and tried to sort of rebrand them and Toastums. Toastums. No, they failed. How annoying. Warhol influenced the name. Don't know that. Andy Warhol, they're meaning.

Josh: Yep.

Tommy: Uh, number 3, the first flavours were strawberry, blueberry, brown sugar cinnamon, and apple currant. I mean, you don't really need to know more than that. Number 4, Milton the Toaster was the original spokesperson. Not sure who Milton is.

Josh: Okay, yeah, go on.

Tommy: Number 5, There used to be grape and French toast flavours. Yum.

Josh: Oh, what?

Tommy: There's like a Pop-Tarts world. Wow.

Josh: Where?

Tommy: Well, it just has this photo of just this. It might be at a conference or something, but it's just like a whole sort of experience, visual merchandising experience. Number 6, there was briefly a Times Square store. Sorry, that's what they're talking to.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: That sold sushi.

Josh: Is it really what they said?

Tommy: That's what it says.

Josh: Okay. Um, I like that. This sounds like the M&M's world or whatever.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, that's what it looks like. Slight sort of just— they put the, the photo above the headline, and so I'm thinking the photo, the headline, and then below it is the contents of the— but it's not. Um, all right, number 7: Jerry Seinfeld took 2 years to write a joke about them.

Josh: Okay, can I find out more about that, please?

Tommy: Yeah, no worries. Thanks for choosing Jerry Seinfeld's Number 7. We can only imagine what kind of toaster-themed scripts Jerry and Larry left on the NBC floor. Also, if you're interested in the complete bit, it's here. Okay, let me just follow this little link. Oh, it's in my video, isn't it? I'm really—

Josh: I'm—

Tommy: I've been— no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's a, it's a video and it's a stand-up bit where Jerry's doing a joke about Pop-Tarts.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: So anyway, um, number 8, they make excellent doughnuts and ice cream sandwiches. I mean, there's not much there, but on the packet it does say, Josh, Pop-Tarts ice cream sandwich recipe.

Josh: Oh, that sounds good.

Tommy: It's literally—

Josh: would you prefer it over a chocolate bar, or would you just prefer a chocolate bar?

Tommy: Uh, as in the Pop-Tart?

Josh: Yeah, like, would you know, would you prefer A Pop-Tart or a chocolate, or a chocolate bar?

Tommy: Well, I'd prefer, to be honest, I saw a Twix white chocolate, and I know you don't like white chocolate, but I would have gone that. I would have preferred that. But I've been actually enjoying these.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Number 9, sales have gone up for 32 years straight. Jesus. Since the— I'm going into this one. Since the early '80s, Pop-Tarts have been on a hot streak. Business minds attribute it to increase in working mums and a focus on quicker breakfast. More speculative scholars— more speculative scholars, i.e., wankers, point to millennials' refusal to stop eating s'mores breakfast pastries. Either way, these things aren't slowing down.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Uh, number 10. I mean, no one has pointed out that there's an obesity problem in this world, and, and it's probably—

Josh: I mean, the US breakfast is outrageous. Yeah. What's the, what's the final one?

Tommy: Um, the unfrosted ones are actually worse for you.

Josh: Oh really? Geez.

Tommy: Wow.

Josh: Can you tell me more on that, please?

Tommy: It's been a, uh, it's long been a matter of internet debate. How are strawberry frosted Pop-Tarts 200 calories while the unfrosted ones are 210? Clearly, um, this is just another sign you should stop messing around with the bare pastries and eat Pop-Tarts as nature intended, with lots of sugary icing.

Josh: What is this website?

Tommy: Um, it's called Thrillist.

Josh: Thrillist.com. It's like a lists— thrillists. Oh yeah, that is true, just all lists.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, that's a great— oh wow, it's actually a great site. I'm gonna spend a bit of time here later on.

Josh: What does Bodhi like for breakfast?

Tommy: Oh, he has the, um, unfrosted ones. No, no, no, he's got, um, Messy Monkeys, which he loves. They're a bit of a treat, but like on the healthier side. They're between— they're between— I reckon they're healthier than granola, much more healthy than Rice Pops— uh, Coco Pops.

Josh: Sure.

Tommy: Um, toasted muesli, I reckon they could be side to side.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: I don't know, I think they're meant to be— I think they're not too bad.

Josh: Has Bodhi ever been on a holiday where he's gone to a hotel where there's like food, a breakfast buffet?

Tommy: Nah, not yet. I'm looking forward to that.

Josh: Yeah, that'll be a crazy time. Yeah, that'll be fun. Yeah. I mean, the doughnuts was the go-to for me when I was a kid. I love donuts.

Tommy: Oh, yeah. Has porridge, has Weet-Bix, doesn't mind eggs, just loves snacks. The kid's got a bloody, you know. A mansion for a gut, like an empty mansion. He's always— I was trying to think of the word. What is that? Like, you've, um, bottomless pit, you know? He's just always—

Josh: I always believed when I was a kid, the like two stomach thing around dessert. Like, I'd be full from a dinner perspective but always had room for dessert, always would have dessert. Like the, um, uh, Pizza Hut Pizza Hut was the one that you made the video on where there's, um, all-you-can-eat.

Tommy: Yeah, the bar.

Josh: Yeah, the soft serve. There was a soft serve at the, um, yeah, Dandenong. You'd be able to go to Pizza Hut. It was sick.

Tommy: Sprinkles, some of the greatest mousse in the business. Yeah, I reckon people who wouldn't even eat mousse would eat that mousse. Like, you're doing— they're doing big vats of mousse.

Josh: Can you get like a big— like, when I think about mousse for home, I think about like small sort of yoghurt containers. But can you actually get a big container of mousse? Could I get like an ice cream tub of mousse? I'd love that.

Tommy: That would be cool. Yeah, that should be a thing.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: I mean, we don't need more mousse in our lives, to be honest.

Josh: Well, I was thinking, I mean, we've been accused before of being fatphobic. On the show, but I did want to mention some sort of health kick thing. Yeah. That I would like to do leading up to the end of ISO. It's not about anything silly or unhealthy. Yep. It's about moving your body, getting healthier, so that when you're out and about, you're feeling good.

Tommy: Great.

Josh: What is it?

Tommy: I'm up for this.

Josh: Well, so I'm trying to work it out. I think that we use some form of app. So, we have an app.

Tommy: I thought you had a—

Josh: No, I've got no solution. No, no, no. So, I was thinking like maybe it's a— We could all do a step thing like the Discord a while back had a step challenge. Gemma Watts was always doing very well on the amount of steps. But I think and even Toni Lodge from One Trick Toni, she got me to add her on her Apple Watch. And we have sort of activity wars. But I feel that we could really draw a line in the sand and say, okay, let's do— we don't have to weigh ourselves or whatever, but just say maybe it's about ticking off the most amount of activities or things like that.

Tommy: Yeah, I love that. I love that. Get moving. Just have to get moving.

Josh: Yep.

Tommy: Open to suggestions. Hi@thethedadsandtheshow.com.

Josh: Have you started boxing yet? Because the big move, the plan was you're going to have a— Yeah. Boxing bag, you were going to have chickens. There was a lot that was going to happen when you moved home.

Tommy: You're spot on that it's not here just yet. But you, um, we actually said this week, wow, you know, like, we're pretty settled in for how soon we've got here. And we're waiting on an outdoor shed because we have heaps of stuff that needs to go in the shed and there's not enough room in the house. It's like a box of Bodhi, like old clothes or like clothes for kids that it's like it'd be hundreds of dollars worth of shit that you'd have to buy again if we have a child. And so we keep a bunch of this.

Josh: And so you're, um, wait, so this is— so you're at a rental and you're going to get a shed? Yeah, for the back. What does a shed cost?

Tommy: $380, $400.

Josh: And it's like, uh Describe, describe what it looks like, how big.

Tommy: Yeah, so it's a, um, 1.8 by— yeah, sorry, one— yeah, probably 1.8 high by 2 metres long.

Josh: What's the foundation like? Is it got a slab or something underneath?

Tommy: No, we would, we would sort of just put a few stumps and lay some crushed rock. Yeah, so it would be— it's I mean, I spoke to the neighbour who told me that, yeah, the last owner, you know, the last tenants were wanting, pushing for a shed, trying to get the person to buy it, trying to get the owners to buy it. Never bought it. Which, you end up just having to do your own thing. Just get it done. Like, it's adding value to the property. Did I tell you that—

Josh: So you think that you're going to do it, not bring it up?

Tommy: If it's an issue, I can bring it up, and if they don't want it, I will smash it and put out the front at the end, just go out, you know. But I, I could see us being here for a couple of years, definitely.

Josh: So that'd be nice because even, uh, Jess was listening to episode 14, uh, because that it had a lot of hype, um, 14 of the day, and she was saying, uh, TJ was moving during that, like, and so she's just, yeah, you've moved a lot. How many times? You've moved 3 times, uh, since, dude, since we started the show.

Tommy: Yeah, moved from my apartment downstairs to the other apartment.

Josh: Oh shit, so that's 1 to Bullen, 2, and then to the thing. Yeah, 3.

Tommy: Yeah, 3 times, dude, in 2 years.

Josh: Yeah, that's a lot, dude.

Tommy: I've, I reckon I've lived in, oh, well over 10 places now, which it's, it hasn't felt like I've been sort of, can't, can't lock myself down, you know, I can't stay somewhere. But I've always been transient like that.

Josh: How many houses, like when you were a kid, did you grow up in the one house?

Tommy: One. Grew up in that house until we sold it, which was like, that's not that common these days.

Josh: Yeah, well, I feel like we had 1, 2, 3, 4 houses. In like when I was a kid. 5.

Tommy: Yeah, but wow. Yeah, Bodhi's into his third as well. That's—

Josh: It's really nice. It's a luxury to be able to have one house.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: That you can stay in. We did a big stint in one of them, which was, you know, like I think it's super beneficial.

Tommy: Yeah, I'd like to do a bigger stint in this. I'd like to go from here to actually owning something. Um, and you know, this is, this is cheap enough that we could think about doing that. But yeah, no, you're right, the, um, the things are coming into play. The, uh, oh mate, my everything's changing next week for me, mate. Everything.

Josh: You've said this, so this weekend, bit of a reset. This is your fight, like, you're, you, you really want to unwind, focus, because this is, this is a reset starting Monday.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, because Bodhi goes back to daycare, which I've— here's the thing, you can easily think in your— yeah, clap it in, Dan Andrews, thank you.

Josh: I didn't even do that. That's amazing.

Tommy: No, I was thinking you can easily be sort of annoyed at yourself because you're like, I need to get stuff done, but I can't. How's it, you know, all I'm asking for is I can feel silly when I spoke— I spoke to Amy about it— I can feel silly that no, I need a— I need a day to work. It's like I'm not even asking for a day, I'm asking for fucking 5 hours uninterrupted.

Josh: And I could do—

Tommy: I could just do 5 hours a day. I could do 5 hours a day for the next, you know, week, each week, working week, and I'll have more work done. It's the disrupted. It's the milk please, it's the fucking just doing something and then just being pulled away where it can send you mad.

Josh: Have you been speaking to other parents that are at the same daycare? So when Bodhi rocks up on Monday, we'll have some mates.

Tommy: Um, oh, Amy's chatted to one on, on text. I saw this cute email came from the daycare. You know, we're going to ease the kids back into sort of, um, into, into care, and we're going to have a great sort of outdoor picnic with yummy food and a bubble machine. And I was thinking, fucking every one of these kids is going to be absolutely fiending television. You think about this, you think these kids at home, all these kids that are just happen to not be at daycare and not getting some screen time, or like at least a 60% increase in screen time, these kids like Bodhi, they're going to rehab. They don't need bubble machine, mate. They need some drip.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, they're gonna—

Tommy: mate, I— it will be hard for daycare workers. I feel for you, like the, the rattiness of these kids. It's going to be tough. It's really going to be tough.

Josh: I wonder how many experiments, not experiments, but how many sort of psychological tests are going on at the moment in this time. You feel like this is a great— I don't know if I mentioned it, but the birds, the sound of the birds at night. What about it? I can hear it, like we're in fact, we're in the, near the CBD. We're like a couple of kilometres outside of the centre. And you can hear like birds. And so I wonder if there's any research around with everyone being inside, the birds are coming out.

Tommy: Yeah, I could imagine. It's like the pollution levels have gone down. You can— you— the photos you could see of the canals in Venice. You went to Venice and they were dirty as shit, weren't they?

Josh: I can't really remember.

Tommy: The water just looks a bit murky. It's just because it's being turned up like it's by the boats going through it. Um, yeah, I could imagine. But yeah, I mean, this is a— I was thinking it has been an amazing time with Bodhi. Like, being able to— it's actually been a fucking blessing to be able to like play solidly for hours, you know, down the park or whatever it is. Like, never would have done that shit during the day.

Josh: Do you think that you're more resilient? Do you think that like, if you think about Tommy last year who was like struggling with just having a kid, full stop. Then you think about what you've been through in the last few months. Do you think that you're a lot more resilient to things now?

Tommy: Yeah, mate. Maybe. Maybe. I think to survive it, you need some level of resilience, which I think all parents who have got through this time have.

Josh: But do you think it will feel easier? Do you think that you're like, ah, fuck, like all of a sudden?

Tommy: For a period. For a period. It's like—

Josh: It'll just become normal.

Tommy: Well, yeah, exactly. Very adaptable as humans, which can be good and bad. And so by the time I've got back in, you know, like, I know the illusion of— there's probably a couple of weeks stint where I'm working hard during the day and then I'm losing focus. Like, it's because, yeah, you are then getting a distraction from somewhere else. Yeah, you know.

Josh: Yeah, I get that.

Tommy: It's, uh, but that's life.

Josh: You really—

Tommy: all I'm asking for, 5 hours. All I want is 5 unbroken.

Josh: And so what's the deal? So what time does Bodhi get to daycare and when will he— like, when do you pick him up?

Tommy: 7. You can get him there at 7:30, after 7. 7:30. Oh, sorry, 7:30. Til 6, but you pick him up at 5:30. Yeah, probably 7:30 till 5:30.

Josh: And so do you drop him off, like, how many people will be there at like 5, 5 to 7? Just fucking just—

Tommy: Well, there's only one parent. They've restricted it, so it's one parent. You have to drop them off.

Josh: I have to lock in a time?

Tommy: No, no, no.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: It's just, it's just before you could just, you could bring 4 people. You and I plus Breen Aim could have gone. Now, thanks to COVID, there's one family member can drop them off and now it's dropping them at the gates, like dropping them at the sort of rather than going in and signing in. So, it's going to be a...

Josh: So, what have the childcare workers been doing? Have they been looking after essential worker kids?

Tommy: Yeah. Yeah. They've been there. It's... What a weird, weird time.

Josh: Yeah, so do you change anything up when it comes to setting Bodhi up for the day? Are you gonna sling him?

Tommy: Oh, definitely. Yeah, I'll put it— put a little iPhone in his pocket.

Josh: Just put a little— just put some screen, uh, screen time restrictions on it. Yeah, that's okay, right?

Tommy: Oh, it's going to be— I mean, that's going to be another thing that it's going to be him changing pattern. Because the kid does the same as the parent is, works out the pattern and then adjusts to it. And so, he's adjusted.

Josh: Who was this that was— That's right. So, I've got a mate who lives next door to their daycare, like where the kid goes to daycare, like literally next door. And his kid will be at the fence. Like, "Mum, Dad," and they can fucking hear it. Like, they're in the garden, they can hear him, but they can't tell him that they can hear because otherwise he'll be fucking like screaming for them all the time. So he just has to— they just have to stay completely silent.

Tommy: Give you shivers. You're just like a prisoner. You're a prisoner at that point. No, I used to, because I lived across the road from the primary school that I went to, me and me mates would be at the fence Mum, biscuits! She'd bring over the Bikkie box, the Bikkie tin. Did you have a Bikkie tin? Like, yeah, definitely floral one, like a few flowers on it or something.

Josh: Yeah, I feel like, um, we went for glass just so you could see what you're working with, you know, like just glass tin. Yeah, well, not like a jar, but just a jar. Yeah, I think it was a Bikkie jar. I think we Yeah, we had a few different options. Did you have like mini chocolate biscuits?

Tommy: We had, do you remember the biscuit bag that had, on the inside was silver? You know that one? So, it's like a, on the outside you've got like your— Digestives? No, we had those, but also like this, it was like a real sort of felt industrial, just a big bag of cookies.

Josh: Oh, I remember that.

Tommy: Chocolate chip cookies.

Josh: Oh, I do. So the cookies, I remember there was like, I can't remember the brand, but they're real little, like the chocolate to actual cookie ratio was fucking great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you'd smash them. You could just, I looked at it like rows. You're doing rows. How many rows have you done? Josh, you've eaten a whole nother row. You know?

Tommy: Yeah, I had a bunch of that stuff. Yeah. That was always good.

Josh: I'm trying to think. So we We had a lot of chips in the house. So, like, you know, just sort of like crisps, whatever you want to call them. You know, like salt and vinegar, all that. So, and you could have them in the house and they wouldn't get eaten straight away. Whereas lollies and chocolate would go straight. Like, were you the same or no?

Tommy: Mum didn't buy that shit. She was Like, she bought biscuits and stuff, but not croissants, chocolate milk, you know. It was—

Josh: uh, we— yeah, Mum would always have something from the baked section of like Coles or whatever. So it'd be like Lamingtons. Just, I just remember like, yeah, Mum just been like, yeah, you can't even enjoy it the way you're— I'm just fucking the Lamington. I'm just trying to swallow this whole lamington that I haven't even fucking like had any attempt at chewing it. I'm just like, oh God. Um, fucking like a cake. I could have cake on it just a weekday, just for fun. Just like a whole cake, just a mud cake, the orange cake, Viennetta ice cream. That's good.

Tommy: Yeah, these are the good old days.

Josh: Yeah, it's a simpler time. Like dessert. Every single night was fucking— it was good, wasn't it? Bit of Milo on ice cream, mix it up. That was good.

Tommy: What if the out of iso is as simple as every day that you need to put in 1 hour's walk? Because that gets it. Like, if you haven't been doing it for a while, like, I went for a 1-hour walk the other night, dude. Me hip flexors. Oh, here you go. Um, I went, well, if you don't want to wear a mask, you have to run. But if you walk, you can't— you gotta wear the mask unless you're drinking coffee.

Josh: You could drink your coffee while you walk.

Tommy: Pull your— yeah, yeah, put it down sort of thing. But I went for this walk and I got to this point and it was dark. It was a track, it was a bike track along the highway, pitch black. I was scared, dude. I was a bit fucking scared, so I ran.

Josh: Did you really?

Tommy: I was like, I was like Dude, I had trackies on, but I didn't feel equipped to run. I had like a jumper over my shoulders. I ran, I ran. I don't regret it, I enjoyed it. I don't blame you, but I was scared and that's why I ran. I wouldn't recommend it, but I mean, it was— I felt like I was in fucking that TV show Gladiator running the gauntlet.

Josh: What's his name?

Tommy: Conan? Or who was that guy would come out and fucking spear tackle me?

Josh: I don't remember many.

Tommy: Like, the big Samoan dude, the fucking— he would absolutely just destroy, destroy everyone. I loved it. I loved it. Sonia.

Josh: I would like to watch. Yeah, I do remember those names. I'm gonna go watch it, dude.

Tommy: It was nostalgic. Yeah, Gladiator, that big television show back in the day.

Josh: Guts too. If— hi@thedeadlytalkshow.com— if you had, uh, Nickelodeon I just want to be able to connect with other kids who had Foxtel because, um, so many great shows. But I bring it up with, uh, the team and, and no one had Foxtel and Mason wasn't born until 2005.

Tommy: 2000— sorry, 1995, it was the television series. This is great.

Josh: Gladiators?

Tommy: Yeah, Gladiator.

Josh: Gladiator. Yeah.

Tommy: Gladiator— oh no, Gladiators. Gladiators. Interesting. Love it. Oh my God, this is bringing back memories. This is great.

Josh: Was that Michael Whitney? Was Michael Whitney involved? Was he the ref?

Tommy: Uh, well, yeah, I'm not sure. Gladiator Australia. Let me just look that up. Gladiator TV show.

Josh: Was it a US one as well?

Tommy: The— I think it's, uh, Oh yes, here we go. Um, it was— it's made by ITV, so it's— it was like— I think it's been all over the joint. But I'd have to— Hunter, Lightning, Wolf— love their names. Anyway, felt like I was on Gladiators. I made it out the other side. Um, but you can— yeah, it could be like leave the house and if you don't have a mask, you just start running. So run.

Josh: Yeah, I think there could be.

Tommy: Every day.

Josh: Yeah, I think there's definitely, for me, the bike is great because it means that it doesn't matter what the weather is. It does, because the other thing too is when you're feeling like, I don't like going outside, like being a bit fucking heavier and all that sort of, I just don't feel comfortable being outside. I don't want to fucking talk to, I don't want to bump into people. So I like the idea of being on my bike getting to a spot where I feel comfortable and then I'll go outside again.

Tommy: Yeah, do that for sure. I think it's like minutes moving. So it's like, uh, how many minutes have we got across the week of movement? Because then do what you want, where you want, how you want, but you need to just have that time. So it's— you could do, you know, 10 5-minute blocks across a day and you've got 50 minutes of movement. But it's just—

Josh: yeah, I wonder, but the, the other thing too is the running. Bree's done some running. It's like, it doesn't have to be that great, like just around the block You can do like 300 metres one way, 300 metres like it's— you don't like— I think they can get a little bit complicated when you're like, fuck, I need to find a good path where I don't have to fucking go over Punt Road and do it. Like, it's easy, just fucking just do a blocky, do a blocky and do it 5 times a day. Yeah, yeah. Uh, great, it's a daily talk show. If you want to join in on that, or if you have any ideas on how we could have some form of leaderboard, I remember Charles set one up. I wasn't a fan of the app, Charles, that we're using, so we can maybe work something out. Maybe Couch to 5K, but then that's very running specific.

Tommy: Yeah, it's all running. I just want minutes. So you just gotta log your minutes, log your minutes, and then it's log your minutes.

Josh: Yeah, I like that. Hashtag log your minutes. All right, uh, enjoy your Friday, guys, and we'll see you tomorrow for Weekend Banter. Have a good one. See you guys.