Jandals & Screenplays

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 851.

Tommy: Happy weekend banter and also Screenplay Sunday. Oh yes, how are we, Georgie boy?

George: Josh's birthday eve.

Tommy: Yeah, mate, you, uh, you already fired up, fired up for your day, Joshy boy?

Josh: I haven't been thinking about it that much, but it feels, um, it feels very unearned, to be honest.

Tommy: Well, what do you mean? That is life.

Josh: It's just a birthday, you like, everyone get— has them. But yes, tomorrow I turn 30.

Tommy: Well, technically you do earn your birth because you are the superior little sperm and you manage to break through onto the other side. Break on through to the other side.

George: Musical Sundays.

Tommy: Yeah, well, let's not get ahead of ourselves. It is Screenplay Sunday. Now, last week, clusterfuck, um, George didn't know if Josh was writing a script, came half prepared, something he'd written on the toilet.

George: Well, I was told, I was told by Josh, I'll do next week's script.

Tommy: Look, mate, this is not—

Josh: how serious did I sound when I said that?

George: Uh, pretty soon actually it was written, it was in Slack. Really?

Tommy: Who knows?

Josh: I think it happened when you like said, hey, I've— how did it come about? I feel like you would have sent your script and then I would have just in a response guilt been like, oh yeah, good job, I'll do the next one. But that's not really a commitment.

Tommy: It was that—

George: so we, we recorded the show at 12:30. Yeah. And, uh, and you messaged it 12:20, and he said, hey, was I meant to do a script for today? And I said, it's all good, I've got you back. And then you said, I'll do it next week.

Tommy: Okay, great. Well, saved by Gronkh Gideon, because this week Gideon has come through and written a screenplay. Is that what you say? Written a screenplay for us. And he sent it through. And so we've just received this. George, do you want to do a reset on what Screenplay Sunday is all about?

George: Well, Screenplay Sundays came about because Josh got right into screenwriting. I did the masterclass. He got—

Tommy: got or is— he's right into it or got right into it?

George: He got right into it.

Tommy: Look at all the—

Josh: look at all my index cards, all the white or the blue or the yellow. Like, that is a guy who loves screenwriting.

George: You got a new keyboard. Mm-hmm. Yeah. A new keyboard so you could write better. Mm-hmm. You got 4,000 index cards so you could come up with more ideas.

Josh: Yes.

George: And you bought MasterClass so you could learn the process of screenwriting.

Josh: All true.

George: And then I got on board because I was like, this sounds great. I want to do this. Yeah. And so I wrote a couple of little screenplays and then we decided Screenplay Sunday. Every Sunday we could read someone's screenplay. And give each other feedback and we can all improve together.

Tommy: I was just going to say, this is like when 3D Deal made an announcement when you were trying to rewrite Seth Godin's book. Yes, yeah, that he's going to write a book of himself.

Josh: Yeah, so a reset for that. There's a lot of resetting going on.

Tommy: Oh yeah, let's throw it to Mason. Reset. These are the reset kings.

Josh: What was the deal with, uh, the book?

Mason: Well, So what did you come— how did you even start it?

Josh: That's not a good question. I know, but I was trying to think.

Mason: This is just one day.

Josh: I was reading a book about copywriting and being better, and they suggested rewriting your favourite written, you know, text, you know, things that you love.

Tommy: And so, yeah, blog post or paragraph.

Josh: Yeah. And so I'm like, I'm going to rewrite This Is Marketing by Seth Godin. And so I got the book and I was writing it, and it was meant to— I think, uh, when was it meant to be done the first time? I was— I've been— I've been at 3 different places.

Mason: Like, July 1 was at least the second—

Josh: the second one. I think it was meant to be New Year's. I think it was—

Mason: that's right, that's right.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was going to be New Year's. There was a whole bid for it. '18 Is it? I think it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it must have been December 2018. I was going to have the book finished and then I re-announced. I said at the end of the December, I was like, look, July 1st. And then heaps of things happened. I didn't have it ready for July 1st, but 3 Day Deal, our intern from Canada wrote a memoir. And so he had an announcement on July 1st, and, um, and, uh, he self-published. Yeah, he self-published. It's on Amazon. It's called, um, Still Figure— I'm Still Figuring It Out. Is that the title?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Josh: And so anyway, the book is still not done, but I have all the pages that I have. I wrote many, many pages.

Tommy: You did, you did. And it's, uh, it's all a good laugh, to be honest. Uh, but today is Screenplay Sunday, and we're going to get through this screenplay. So we haven't looked at it yet, I've just opened it. I see just at a glance there's a few characters. Do you want me to just assign some characters to people?

Josh: Yep, yep, yep.

Tommy: Um, so I think as tomorrow's your birthday, JJ, you can have the one with the most dialogue. Uh, Emily E-M-I-L-I-E.

Josh: So Gideon, it's like just one quick thought.

Tommy: Critique?

Josh: Yeah, critique. Like, he's— I don't know whether he's trying— he's a bit of a hipster, Gideon, and I think that he's like— the title has a bunch of— they're not umlauts, but they're, um, there's something on top of O's and E's, and there's fucking— he spelled Emily E-M-I-L-I-E.

Tommy: Well, good pickup because he, he, Gideon has said that it is set in a hipster cafe and—

Josh: oh, this is good—

Tommy: the characters, there's customers which we will assign, are, um, hipsters. And so based on— I think Gideon's probably 40% hipster in his approach, you know, he's not up there with that 70% hipster Sure, he did have a mullet, but he is a fucking cracking bloke, um, which not all hipsters I've found in my time are. And so he's an exception, you know, just a bit standoffish. Like, unless you're fucking messing around with a bag of MDMA, you're— they're not gonna have time for you.

Josh: A lot of drug talk the last 3 apps. There have been a lot of drug talk.

Mason: Yeah, yeah, you want to be the gummy guy. Friday night, dummy guy.

Josh: Yeah, okay, so here, look, I'm the guy that takes least substances here.

Tommy: Anyway, let's go.

Josh: Um, Emily, that's me, then you do the rest.

Tommy: Yep, so we got Emily, uh, and then I'm gonna, I'm gonna give myself— actually, nah, fuck, I want to, I want to do the, um, the least, the interior thing. No, it's JJ and I. I'm Samantha. I've always wanted to be called Samantha.

Josh: Okay, and then George, you can be customer 1. Yeah. And Mason, you're customer number 2.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: And George, can you please read the action?

Tommy: Oh, there's customer 3 and 5.

Josh: That will be Tommy.

George: Oh geez.

Tommy: Tommy, and then Josh, you're 4, and then it goes, then it goes back to George at 5. Okay.

Josh: I need to write that in the index card.

Mason: Hang on, hang on. Are you sure you want Josh's customer him before because he'll be Emily talking with himself.

Josh: He'll be himself.

Mason: How about, how about Josh, how about George and I just alternate in the character?

Tommy: In the great idea. Okay, so we're absolutely great.

Mason: So I'm, I'm George, you're 1, I'm 2, you're 3.

George: Do you want to, do you want to go, etc.? Okay, yeah, cool.

Tommy: I've actually given myself, I've given myself the least amount of space.

George: It's 1, 3, 5.

Mason: You can read the, um, you can read that.

Josh: Do you reckon Why not?

Tommy: I'll read action.

George: Yeah, you know, you know what I actually, actually learned from Rhys in the industry? We, we call it reading the big print.

Mason: Okay, well, there you go.

Tommy: I'm gonna read the big print down. All right, here we go. You ready?

Josh: Don't fuck it up, TJ.

Tommy: I just don't want screenplay Sunday. Okay, here we go. Devolzion Cafe. By Gideon Hine. INT, not sure what that means.

Josh: Interior.

Tommy: Interior.

George: Devoluzione.

Tommy: Okay, shut the fuck up, George, we'll cut you off at 12 minutes.

Josh: TJ, any other questions before— I just don't want that to happen every time.

Tommy: Fade in. I got that, I got that. I'll say customer too. Do you need to say that? You don't say, you just let it— yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I've got it all.

George: Got it all.

Tommy: All right guys, less judgement here please. Here we go, I'm starting from the start. We need this clean. Devotion Cafe by Gideon Hine. Interior, Devotion Cafe in Carlton North, Melbourne. Fade in. Emily, 29, student, enigmatic, approachable, switches the closed sign to open in the cafe on an early Sunday morning. And awaits by the till for orders as she presses play on the cafe's Spotify playlist.

Josh: Hey mate, what can I get for you today?

George: Just the usual, thanks.

Josh: Is that a latte?

George: Nah, it's a flat white.

Josh: With regular milk?

George: No, oat.

Josh: Oh, alright, no worries. That'll be $4.50.

Tommy: The customer walks off as Emily turns to her coworker, Samantha. Student, 24, barista. "Who the fuck was that?" "Honestly, never seen the dude." Emily rolls her eyes and walks back to the till, as the line of customers wearing denim jackets and cut jeans now extends through the door. A father with his two daughters walks up to the till.

Josh: "Hey, how are you today?" I'm alright.

Mason: I ordered a strong decaf latte, but it isn't strong enough. Tastes a bit weak to me.

Josh: Oh, do you just want us to make you a new one then?

Mason: Yep, and can we get 2 vanilla milkshakes?

Josh: Sure, is that on savings?

Mason: More like spending.

George: Good one.

Josh: Just tap when you're ready.

Tommy: The kitchen has opened and now customers begin to order food. Emily switches places from the till, picks up her notepad and pencil, and heads to table 3.

Josh: Hey, what would you like today?

George: Can I just get the avo smashed, but can I get my eggs soft poached? Not snotty, but not well done.

Josh: Oh, so, uh, medium rare?

George: Yeah. And could I grab an oldie supreme? That's just an espresso shot, half boiling water and half milk in just the one mug.

Josh: I'll see if we can do that, but it shouldn't be a problem.

George: Sorry if I'm being difficult. No.

Tommy: Hahaha.

George: Also, I brought my own homemade almond milk if you could use that.

Josh: Uh, what do you mean?

George: Here, just for the Aldi Supreme, you can use this milk. I made it myself.

Josh: Okay, thanks, I guess.

George: You're welcome.

Tommy: Emily switches back to the till as the morning rush is now finished and closing time is soon approaching.

Josh: Hey, what can I get you guys?

Mason: Uh, you know, we'd like to try two of your famous almond croissants, please.

Josh: Oh, sorry, we're all sold out.

Mason: Sold out? We came all the way from America for this.

Josh: You came all the way from America for an almond croissant?

Mason: Yeah, but please don't stress. We'll just walk down the road to Lune now instead.

Josh: Okay, enjoy your time there.

Tommy: Okay. Emily prepares to close the till and begins to pack up as one last customer arrives.

Josh: Hey, how can I help you?

George: Do you have any sandwiches left?

Josh: Yep. Uh, we have one left. Are you vegetarian?

George: I am, but I eat chicken.

Josh: Um, all right, uh, we have one last chicken sandwich you can have.

George: That would be great, and a long black.

Josh: Sure, what's your name for the order?

George: Jacob, to takeaway, obviously.

Tommy: Emily prepares her last order for the day. As she's about to clock out and head out, she grabs a long black and the chicken sandwich from the kitchen.

Josh: Jacob, long black!

George: Is that my takeaway?

Josh: Jacob!

George: Yes, thanks. Oh, could you double cup it? It's really hot.

Josh: Sure.

Tommy: Emily packs up the till, stops the Spotify playlist that she hears on repeat every day, and walks out the door Having given out all her fucks, now Emily is without any fucks to give for the rest of her Sunday. Fade out. Finished. I mean, he's encapsulated a Melbourne hipster cafe experience perfectly. It's great.

Josh: It was phenomenal, Mason. I thought that we'd had a voiceover.

George: Yeah, I love the accent.

Mason: You had 5 different voiceover artists.

Josh: Yeah, it was beautiful.

Mason: It changed each time. That was great, guys.

Tommy: There's nothing like watching a movie and being outraged and then realising that it's based on a true story. And so Gideon has said that that was based on true storeys from a hipster cafe.

George: Wow, right. So he observed all that and then he— yeah, he wrote it down. It was too good to forget.

Josh: So George, now that you've been spending a bit of time as a screenwriter, any feedback from Gideon? Anything that you'd like to see?

George: Um, well, the first bit of feedback— you touched on it— the nat— like, it's not a good look for the whole cast to sit down and do a table read and no one can pronounce the title and the names of the characters.

Tommy: Um, but isn't that hipster? Isn't that good though? Like, if you're trying to— you're not going to go Dave's Diner and just set some hipster scene. I had to look up Devotion, and that's how it's said on YouTube. Devotion, devotion, devotion.

George: Right. And so it was, um, I think It was kind of more of a bit observational sketch, I would say. Um, there wasn't much intention and obstacle from the start.

Josh: What do you think the intention and the obstacle— like, can you identify any?

George: Well, I think she just wanted to get through her day, but she had to deal with all these idiot customers.

Tommy: Yeah, is that not obstacle?

George: I guess so. Yeah, but I mean, it's work sometimes.

Josh: I think one thing that I would potentially suggest is changing out the thing from customer 5 and giving— give them names. Because I don't know if you remember on the masterclass, I think Aaron Sorkin said that when it comes to actually giving the final script, it's good for everyone to have a name. Is that true? Did you hear that, or did I make that up? Have you watched the whole month?

George: I haven't, no, I haven't watched it all yet.

Mason: Okay, it does make sense.

Josh: It makes sense, but then I don't know, you sort of would want to know that it's a customer though, potentially.

George: Yeah, that's true. I did like American accent, like giving Mason that, that was great.

Tommy: He did say put in all different types of accents. Oh, sorry, like, well, not accent, sorry, hipster accents, which are adjust, you know, brah, like they're not really actors, you know, that's really good.

Josh: I thought that the big print— is that what it's called again, JB? The big print almost has too much personality. That this is my observation, look, I'm not an expert, but just at the end, but I know on repeat every day and walks it like, you know, um, having given out all her fucks, um, it's very funny, it's great for us in table read, we got a good laugh. Will it be demonstrated on the screen? Yeah, is that going to potentially be text on there? Very creative, Gideon. I think you've done a fantastic job and I really appreciate the effort.

George: We loved it. It was so much fun.

Tommy: Bloody oath. I'm looking forward to— I'm looking forward to JJ's script.

Josh: Well, I was just thinking, so that was my, my week. GB Talk is this one. I feel like you should be next.

Tommy: To be honest, I see why you don't do them with the criticism you throw out. Because it's too hard to then feel the judgement coming back at you when you're projecting. No, it's just, it'd be scary. I feel this, I feel scared. And then I can imagine you'd be being scared because of how hard you judge.

Josh: Or the other thing is, he, in parentheses, he said, um, there was a bit of dialogue, uh, so there was a line where I had like, um, I said something where I believe parentheses would normally be alluding to direction of how it should be spoken. Does that make sense?

George: Yeah, sure.

Tommy: What's a parenthesis?

Josh: It's just brackets.

Tommy: Okay, great.

George: A bit of positive feedback, Mason stuck to the script.

Josh: Yeah, what was that?

Mason: I did, mate.

George: He stuck to the script. He didn't improv, which is good. Yeah, Mason did.

Josh: Any positive feedback for Gideon anymore?

George: Oh, I mean, you've written it. That's something. You've written a script. That was great.

Josh: I'd love to see your address and copyright on the first page.

George: Yeah. Yeah, I'd like to see that too.

Josh: But the formatting is impeccable.

Tommy: Is it?

Josh: Yeah.

George: Really good.

Josh: Yeah, this is a final draught job, I reckon.

George: Yeah, I think so.

Josh: Real nice.

Tommy: Bloody oath.

George: Really good. I think the characters were like, you could really picture the characters. In your head, which was, which was great. Um, yeah, well done. It'd be good for someone else.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, if you want to just send an email to screenplays@thedailytalkshow.com, set that alias up for us.

Tommy: Have we really?

Mason: No, we, no, we haven't done it yet. Okay, well, no, it's just, just send it to hi@thedailytalkshow.com.

Josh: Don't—

Mason: we really have to send that?

Josh: Yeah, screenplays at the— and I want to be able to also screen— as screenplays at the Daily Talk Show.

Mason: Do you want to make a signature for that?

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: How long is that going to take?

Josh: Look, I reckon you could get it turned around in less than 30.

Tommy: I reckon I'll set up a Hotmail.

Josh: Oh yeah, screenplay sundays@gmail.com. Send an email to George there.

Tommy: I don't reckon that's even available. I wonder if it'd be cool if you could quit.

Josh: Play sundays@gmail. Yeah, I'll get that.

Tommy: Which, can you then redirect that back to hi@thedailytalkshow.com?

George: Yeah, why don't you send it to hi@thedailytalkshow.com and just make your subject line Screenplay Sundays?

Mason: Yeah, I like that. There you go.

Tommy: I like that. Easy to search. Easy to search. I mean, feel open for, uh, feedback. This is the game, the table read, and then the breakdown.

Josh: If Gideon has any feedback for us as actors, guys, guys, I'm not actually fucking joking. Uh, we're starting a new podcast. ScreenplaySundays.com is available. Sevs, get the domain name now. Starting, uh, next Sunday. George, what date is next Sunday?

George: Oh no, big announcement.

Mason: This is a big commitment.

George: Yeah, yeah, yeah, next Sunday.

Tommy: And I'll just—

Mason: I'll submit it to— I'll submit it to—

Josh: the 20th.

George: Uh, oh no, yeah, the 20th.

Josh: Yep, thanks.

George: 20th, 20th.

Josh: On the 20th, George and I will be starting a new podcast, Screenplay Sundays, uh, every Sunday. Goes for— it's a real fun short 15-minuter. Yeah, and this is— I'm being serious now. Hi@screenplaysundays.com, send us your screenplays. And we're going to have a cast every single week.

Mason: Who's on the first week?

Josh: Uh, the first week we are joined by, uh, Matt D'Avella and—

Tommy: geez, keep it to one person—

Josh: and Ryan Shelton. Matt D'Avella and Ryan Shelton. Fret one. What do you think?

Tommy: Oh God, mate, we love a launch and we love a promise. Love a launch, love a promise. So, um, any caveats now? Like, Ian, this is your moment for backpedalling and tapering down. So you're going blue sky, and then what can you get to?

Josh: I just need to cheque avails on Matt and Ryan. That's probably the biggest barrier, to be honest.

George: Oh God, well, that's—

Mason: and then that's good.

Tommy: And then there's a few things. Who writes the script? Who's bringing it?

George: Um, surely Ryan's got some lying around.

Josh: Yeah, I think it— so they need to be sort of short. Yeah, let's, let's work, work it all out. Mace, can you get that domain name as well?

Mason: Yeah, I've, I've, I'm just going through the registration process with Venture IP.

Tommy: Yeah, great. And, and how can you get shared hosting with them that's sort of great deal?

Mason: Oh yeah, you can use a promo code TDTs for a 50% off discount on your first 12 months of hosting.

Tommy: Mate, that is a bargain with a great brand if I've ever heard.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And so, uh, yeah, is that an impressive domain, Josh?

Josh: ScreenplaySundays.com, I think, is great.

Mason: Yes, screenplay.

Tommy: What's on—

Mason: no, no, no, Screenplay Sundays.

Tommy: Yeah, what about you?

Josh: Sunday at the end, an S at the end.

Tommy: Screenplay Sunday, is that there or gone?

Josh: Oh, good point, we need to get both. Well, Screenplay Sunday, we did Screenplay.

Mason: I've written Screenplay Sunday in the Daily Talk Show episode 837 was Screenplay Sunday, no S.

Tommy: Yeah, I like Sunday Screenplay because there's only—

Josh: yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good because maybe it's available.

Mason: Sunday search.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's only one Sunday in a week.

Mason: Yeah, Screenplay Sunday is available.

George: All right, and it means we can only do one episode if we want.

Mason: That was close, I was about to cheque out on the other one.

Tommy: On Sundays? Yeah, you know, you're off your— you're off your gourd, mate.

Josh: It's, um, it's a funny reference. What else is happening, GB? I haven't spoken to you this week that much. What have you been up to?

George: Um, what I've been up to this week? Oh, just, just working, just, you know. Might just bring in a bit of vacuum, you know, doing a bit of work. Yeah, um, yeah, I don't know what else to say. Uh, what have I been doing?

Tommy: Are you okay, George?

George: Every other week, I guess. I am actually. I actually am really okay. I had a great day. I just am so grateful at the moment. Really good.

Tommy: Yeah, you were, you were feeling good, feeling a bit anxious the other morning. You had to get out for a walk and then you realised you hadn't really been out for a walk in a while.

George: Yeah, yeah. Have you been walking? Feeling good?

Tommy: Have you implemented a walk? Yeah, see, here we go, he's fired up, he's moving, he's getting his body active.

Josh: Just got the, uh, Mace just got the $20 confirmation on bank. Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: Hey guys, how do I get the receipts for all of these? Are we just, uh, they'll be in the back dashboard.

Mason: Yeah, it's all Inventor IP.

Tommy: Yep, no worries, mate. I'll do a—

Mason: I'm just creating the, um, the podcast now as well, by the way, so So GB, where did you walk?

George: What's going on? Just around the block, really. Just around Carlton Gardens.

Josh: How far? Like 45 minutes?

George: Yeah, 45. Um, probably not even, probably half an hour. Um, but no, feeling good. Really loved the episode on Thursday. I messaged you guys about that. That was great. Just about developing and starting a podcast and that sort of thing, because I've had the same kind of internal struggles and with, uh, the difference between posting a, um, a video on Instagram, whatever, that gets a quick reaction and you feel good about yourself, compared to sticking through a podcast where you've got great listeners and, and everything, but there's not that— you don't get that like feedback instantly, and you've got to kind of believe that it's, it's going well and you've got to trust the process and And the process is the funnest bit. So if you can stick through that, then you're good. But yeah, it's just a different thing than posting a little funny video and everyone saying, oh, that was great, and sharing it around.

Josh: Yeah.

George: So, and you guys have been through that as well. So yeah, I love that episode.

Josh: Well, thank you, JB.

George: But also, quick question for Mason regarding—

Mason: Oh, here we go.

George: One trick Tony.

Mason: Yep.

George: What are jandals?

Mason: Mate, yeah, true. Jandals, de vais.

George: Jandals are false.

Mason: Jandals.

George: Are they really?

Mason: Yep. I don't know where my parents got this from.

Josh: Did you not know that, GB?

Mason: Jandals.

George: No, but I laughed. That was so funny when you said it. I wasn't expecting it. I thought it was like chandals, like jean sandals.

Tommy: Yeah, that's what I thought. So there's flip-flops, which is— what is a fucking flip-flop? I guess it makes the sound. Which is probably more explanatory than a jandal. What is a jandal? Like, how do you come to jandal?

George: I think you're wearing leather. Is it leather?

Mason: No, it's rubber. It's a thong. It's thongs.

Tommy: Yeah, but why jandal? We're trying to do a flip-flop. Is this sound of the shoe?

Mason: An open foot sandal. So there's andal. I'm just wondering how you—

George: What? What does andal mean?

Mason: No, no, no. Well, you get the andal from sandal. What are you talking about?

Josh: What's an andle? So, andle, A-N-D-L-E-S. Is andle the base of a sandal? What does andle mean? Here we go.

Mason: I don't—

Josh: it's, it's not—

Mason: as in Andal, sandal. So drop the S on sandal, you get andles, right? Drop the J on jandals, you get andles as well. So that's where it comes from. I'm just wondering why there's a J on the front.

Tommy: Oh, you know, hang on, hang on. The name Jandal combined the words Japanese and sandal.

Mason: There you go.

Tommy: The family of John Cowie claimed that he introduced the footwear from Japan in the late 1940s, coining the name Jandal in the process. They believe Yock only imported the Jandals and applied for the trademark.

Josh: So there's only one—

Tommy: Morris Yock trademarks Jandal. I think that's his New Zealand, someone in New Zealand. Inspired by the footwear he'd seen in Japan, businessman Morris Yoke and his son Anthony began manufacturing the simple rubber footwear in their garage in 1957. The name Jandal combined the words Japanese and sandal. There is a disagreement about whether Yoke invented the Jandal. The family of John Cowie claimed that he introduced the footwear Oh, they're actually absolute bitches, these two, aren't they? From Japan in the 1940s, coining the name Jandal in the process. They believe Yock only imported the Jandals and applied for the trademark. Yock's son disputes this. It goes on. Jandals Ltd initially manufactured Jandals using rubber imported from Hong Kong. J. Yock and Co. arranged distribution. Skellerup took the— took over the supply of raw materials and eventually bought the business in 1987. During the 1980s and 1990s, the brand came under threat from cheap imported imitations. In response, the owners threatened legal action to protect the Jandall trademark. A fresh stoush—

Josh: like the hot dog storey but for Jandalls.

Tommy: There needs to be a doco on this. A fresh stoush over the name broke out in 2014 2014.

Josh: Wow.

Tommy: When trademark owners Gentex New Zealand Ltd asked a Hamilton-based retailer to stop using the term jandal to advertise their footwork. Meanwhile, in 2020, 97 has been fined for using the term jandal on a podcast. No, no, that's it. That's the jandal story. Uh, wow, what a fucking ride. Jesus.

Mason: Japanese sandal.

Josh: The definition of an andle. There's only one, by the way, and it's to severely roast someone or something.

Mason: Well, that's what just happened.

Josh: Absolutely andled.

George: Just got andled.

Josh: Mate, I mean, there could be a show. We're definitely not doing this one. We've already got a new one, Screenplay Sunday. But another—

Tommy: I had an idea for screenplay. I had an idea for Screenplay Sunday.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: Okay, here we go.

Tommy: So It's, it's so it always needs somebody who's sort of leading the table read, a part of the big media company network. We could bring in somebody who is the facilitator of it. So there's, you know, George, you, me, could be Sevs, it could be Tony's running the facilitating it. So, you know, the person running it's a part of the big media company network, and then we have people that might be in the company as well, but also outside of it that want to come in and do the read. And so I could imagine Tony facilitating it. So we build out like a playbook of like, here's some rules around how you got to host it and serve it up. You know, you saying you got to know the bloody INT intro or, you know, these fundamentals. Interior. You got to know these and then you host it and facilitate it.

Josh: And so, uh, Tony— should we get Tony to host it then? Is that what you're saying?

Tommy: Well, what I'm saying is it's, it's a rotating door. It's, it's the Screenplay Sunday. It's like a venue. Screenplay Sunday is actually, uh, the comedy club. There's a venue and then there's the team that— so we need to run— no, it's a, it's a, it's not a real pub, it's a virtual pub.

Josh: It's in a roundabout way of mentioning, like, describing a podcast. No, no, what I'm saying is but you're talking it and you subscribe to it and it's—

Tommy: What I'm saying is, do you get what I'm saying, George? You get what I'm saying?

George: Not really. So there's just one person who rotates.

Tommy: I'm saying that rather than having to lock yourself into something, Josh, we actually have a team of people that can be facilitating it. And then there's other people on it.

Josh: Oh, geez, you kicked me off my own show.

Tommy: You're very much known for putting your hand up for too much work and then pulling out and not doing any.

Josh: So let's see that play out. Don't fucking project it on me day one. Let it be episode 5 being like, where's Josh? Yeah, I'll be on the phone. I'll like, I'll have a line, but it's over the telephone.

Tommy: You're in Tony's ear. Tony is now Josh.

Josh: It's, you know, it's, I think it's a fun idea. And so video, no video. What do we need?

George: Video.

Josh: I was thinking we need to get the YouTube thing.

Mason: Okay, great. And so I was thinking you sent that plugin for Chrome, the extension that runs the screenplay down the side of the page as you watch the film.

Josh: Yes.

Mason: Now it's not a film, but do we want to run the screenplay down the side as it's read out on the show?

Josh: Yeah, we need to. Yeah.

Tommy: Oh, that's a big call.

Mason: Okay, great.

Josh: I like it.

Mason: So who's—

George: is that—

Mason: so who's putting all this together?

Josh: Well, GB.

George: Yeah, are we reading our own— like, are we writing a new script each week? Is it original scripts on the site?

Tommy: On the dynamic site, there'll be a section to upload, and so you've got your own script and you upload it. Yeah, there's also a chatbot. It feeds into HubSpot, and, um, and so we will be tracking your clicks.

Josh: Yeah, I want a 1-800 number for this.

Tommy: Well, well, we do have it. We'll put a number and a chatbot on the site.

Josh: I think a 1-800 number would be be good.

Tommy: That's— we need to pay for that. That's a great expense. So look, guys, this has already cost us $20.

Josh: No, it was great. And so, but in all seriousness, Screenplay City, I love it.

Tommy: I think it's a good domain.

Josh: Yeah. And so we just need— so from here, GB, I'm going to start working on the artwork now and get it all on. Like, go now if you're listening to this, um, go Actually, no, it's going to take 48 hours to get onto Apple.

Mason: Yeah, don't do it yet.

Josh: Mid next week it will be up. Yeah, yeah, mid this week. So depending on—

Mason: we'll do a big launch next week.

George: Yeah. And so format, okay, we can discuss format maybe off here, but, um, yeah, it's the most—

Tommy: it's the clearest format of any show that we have. Screenplay, you read through it, you do a table read.

George: Does the guest bring in a screenplay?

Tommy: Maybe.

Mason: Yeah, maybe it's a big ask.

George: It is a big ask. It's also a big ask to write a screenplay every week.

Josh: A guy, Walt, in Ipswich in Queensland, the voiceover artist. I could imagine we could get Walt involved with like—

George: Is there like a—

Josh: Yeah, go on.

George: Yeah, could we just download some screenplay? Is there like a freescreenplay.com?

Josh: I'm sure there's a screenwriting— So you're saying you're already outsourcing The screenplay bit.

Mason: Mate, he used to edit the thing.

Josh: What do you want? What's your biggest— what's the biggest challenge for you, GB, with this?

George: I mean, no, just that he found out about it 5 minutes ago.

Josh: I love it. Fired up about it.

George: I am fired up. It's a good motivation. It gets— if it gets you writing, then great.

Josh: Yeah, I mean, the thing is it means that we can't use this for weekend banter anymore.

Tommy: I know, that's what I was thinking.

George: Yeah, so That's all right, it's the same thing.

Mason: Can we drop that bit in? Yeah, nah, it's all good.

Josh: Who's got a, uh, yeah, the cherry picker at the removalist truck.

Tommy: Oh yeah, I'd say, yeah, mate, MBN guy. When you have a, when you have a kettle worth $400, you better fucking hope it sounds like a cherry picker.

Josh: What's the— what is that, the $400 kettle? Let me guess, wedding present.

Tommy: Well, we had money, we've been through this wedding, we built it. Yeah, we bought a, um Reset. KitchenAid. KitchenAid, mate, I only just worked it out. This is when you know it delivers, or you know you're a dumbass, is when you work out 3 years into having it that you can hold the temperature of the water. So you can hold it, it just, it won't go, it just keeps coming up.

George: I want to have a cup of tea at 80.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that. But then say, oh no, I need to go take a dump, which takes me 45 minutes, and I, and I want to make sure that as soon as I get back I don't have to—

Josh: So you can put it in the shower?

Tommy: No, that's just walking to the toilet. It's another 40 minutes. It's a 3-hour process, guys. And then I come back 3 hours later and it's still at 80 because what it does, George, drops to 75. Oh, got to get that back up to 80 for Tommy. You know what he's like after he's done a shit.

George: What do you like?

Tommy: Empty. Yeah, I feel pretty empty, pretty depressed, pretty fucking broken, to be honest. Pretty broken.

Josh: No, just quickly, I was saying to Bree, she wouldn't allow me to get it, and she hates when I say that because I can do what I want. She's— I'm not sort of held hostage.

Tommy: But can you?

Josh: No, I can, I can. I could get this. She'd be pissed off, but I could get it. Um, no, there's a, um, there's a smart mug that I've been wanting to get.

Tommy: You are a fucking smart mug, mate.

Josh: Look at you.

Mason: Look at that mug.

Josh: So, um, it's called, um, Ember. E-M-B-E-R. And it's the world's first temperature-controlled mug.

Mason: Oh, well, looks sick.

Josh: And so travel mug, uh, it plugs in via, um, USB-C. Yeah, and, uh, it's got like a plate, like a heating plate, and so it will keep your drink at the perfect temperature at all times. Dude, but Bree was like, I get you coffee every morning from the cafe. It's like, I'll pour it in.

Tommy: I said, it's got an app. Yep, it's gonna be controlling it via an app.

Josh: How good is that?

Tommy: Oh dude, dude, if you talked about this earlier, I would have bought it for your birthday tomorrow.

Josh: It's a great idea, isn't it? But it's fucking— it's, it's not cheap. $170 Australian dollars is a lot for a mug. That's more—

Tommy: dude, no, I'm looking at a different one. I'm looking at a $260 mug.

Josh: Yeah, that's the, that's the, that's the travel one. That's the travel, travel mug.

Mason: Just the, um, yeah, that looks cool. Would you get black or white? Black looks great. Yeah, black.

Tommy: Oh, what color?

Josh: Black.

Tommy: White sold out. Luckily that, you know, you like your darker shades, baby.

Josh: It looks good.

Tommy: That is sick, dude. I'm— I, I don't like many gimmicks, but fuck, I mean, yeah, annoying though.

Mason: You have to install another app on your phone. You've just been trying to clean out that home page for ages.

George: Yeah, true.

Josh: Yeah, but you'd do it, wouldn't you?

Tommy: Ember Mug 2, is that— which one do you like?

Josh: Yeah, I mean, you think I would think app-controlled. Yeah, I mean, I, I didn't look into it enough. Let's see what the 1-star reviews are just to give us some perspective. Oh yeah.

Mason: Oh, you're gonna have to charge.

Josh: So there's 11.5 hours, uh, 1-star reviews on Amazon. Okay, here we go. Um, failed within 3 months. Um, so that's not good. Uh, she loves her new mug, but unfortunately it started peeling inside like the photos in the reviews. In other reviews. Okay. Yeah. So, it's got an issue. Very poor quality. Ember app doesn't work. That didn't last long.

George: Wow.

Josh: To spend so much for a coffee mug to have it delaminate/chip on the inside bottom after only 4 months. Really disappointing. Avoid gadget factor. Buy a Yeti. Okay. What's a Yeti?

Tommy: A car?

Josh: Y-E-T-I. Does not hold charge long enough. Very disappointed. I drink coffee throughout the morning with Ember. It loses the charge. And I mean, if I don't have to— one thing I don't have to worry whether my coffee's charged or not. Imagine that annoyance. Yeah, no, it's like I don't wear my fucking Apple Watch because I keep forgetting to fucking charge it. It's like, oh no, I'm just gonna have a coffee and it's not fucking charged. Yes, Mr. Scott.

Tommy: Great.

Josh: For $10, The Mr. Coffee mug warmer is much, a much better product. Also, my non-powered Yeti mug lasts way longer. Okay, so the Yeti must be like a swell bottle.

Mason: It is.

Tommy: Yeti is like a thermos cup.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Which doesn't have the appeal of a USB-C, right?

Tommy: No, no, no.

Mason: And the Mr. Coffee mug warmer looks real pov.

Josh: Yeah, well, that, that is essentially a hot plate. You're plugging your plate into your, into your computer. Like, that's— yeah, I'm worried about fucking knocking into a can of drink, let alone fucking, uh, burning myself. How much fucking energy is that taking? Laptop fucking dies because I've been trying to heat up the hot plate. Yeah, you can make an omelette on it, probably. That's great. Okay, so Screenplay Sunday, every Sunday, starting September 20th. Uh, put it in the calendar, it's going to be, uh, it's going to be great. Ryan Shelton, Matt Diavella, with special co-host, uh, Tony Lodge joining us. Uh, really pumped for episode 1.

Tommy: For episode 1, great.

George: Yeah, yeah, they won't be on the episode, obviously.

Tommy: I also thought, what about like people who write their scripts actually get on to call the Oh yeah, that'd be great. You call it— what do you call it? Sitting there like you're reading the big text, the big print.

George: Yeah.

Tommy: Is there a name for that person, the screenwriter? Yeah, so that's what they just called the screenwriter. Is there no sort of title outside of screenwriter?

Josh: What were you gonna say, Mace?

Mason: Uh, TJ, were you gonna go along the lines of them recording it at home and then putting it into a soundboard and then playing it out?

Josh: There is something in that.

Tommy: Yeah, there's something in that. Bloody oath. Yeah, bloody oath.

Mason: I did— it would be great if you could record— if, if you're writing a script, record yourself doing the, the screenplay name and all of the interior stuff, and then George will sort it all out.

George: It's a great idea.

Mason: The RODECaster and play it out on the show.

Josh: There is something about the celebrity guest also reading, like having the guests read the big print just to make it sort of more, more sort of interactive.

Tommy: Love this.

George: I love it.

Josh: 1, 2. So Screenplay Sunday, how many people? So me, GB.

Mason: Yeah, how many are you guys?

Tommy: Well, let's just—

Josh: or no, TJ, 6.

Mason: I reckon 6 people. You're gonna have 6 people in.

Josh: So me, GB, Tony, 6, and then 2 guests and one other person. And who else? What do you think about it? You do you want to come on?

Tommy: I'll jump in. Yeah, fuck it. Okay, first episode. Yeah, yeah, bring it big. All right guys, but we'll send it to you once I start to upload.

Mason: I'm still— I'm too busy setting up that website that's taken, you know, 3 hours to set up that drag and drop in my script, you know, and you'll need to, um Yeah, you're gonna—

Josh: we'll need our own Chrome extension.

Tommy: Yeah. Oh, does it have a shop integration? Because we need that right now. Yeah, yeah. WooCommerce, please.

Mason: Buy the script.

Tommy: Screenplay Sunday mugs. That is a great idea.

George: Buy the script.

Mason: That's a great idea.

George: Does BMC own every script that comes through?

Tommy: Absolutely. Don't want to get sued.

Mason: It's on the form.

Josh: Look, it's on the form.

Mason: Yeah, look, we get— we've also— Ronan Do we get— do we need Ronan to write up our legal terms?

Tommy: Yeah, Gideon's brother is a, you know, is a lawyer. He's been on the show.

Josh: What about, um, what could we give every single— every single person who, uh, gets their screenplay read out on Screenplay Sunday gets something? I haven't worked out what it is.

Tommy: Yeah, it gets a waiver form with complete handover of rights.

George: What about this? No, I mean, this could be either more work or less work, I'm not sure. We do a Jack Post format where every second week it's the screenplay filmed and finished.

Tommy: Great, when we're back in the office, I think that's too much.

George: So it's a 2-week format where week 1 we run through the— No, you don't like that.

Tommy: No, I've got this, I've got this. Animation.

Josh: Animation would be like—

Tommy: I like animation. 4 grand a pop.

Josh: Yeah, yeah. I think that we could do, no, I think like week to week, Sunday, low barrier to entry, very quick. Let's just fucking— let's get it going.

George: Yeah.

Tommy: Um, okay, don't get ahead of yourself, George.

Josh: Jesus Christ, this is good.

Mason: One foot in front of the other.

Josh: All right, yeah, that's it, that's it, Sevs. You know what, that's a really good perspective. Um, alrighty, uh, enjoy your Sunday. Screenplay Sunday, really looking forward to it. It's a daily talk show. Uh, we'll see you tomorrow. Have a good one.

Tommy: See you guys.