Half A Cup Of Oil

Josh: The Daily Talk Show. It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 850.

Tommy: It's weekend banter. Jess, Mr. 97, welcome, welcome.

Jess: Thank you.

Tommy: Real great number, 850. Similar number to the cost of Jess's leather jacket that she's currently wearing. She's looking beautiful.

Jess: Thank you, Tommy. That's a really nice compliment.

Tommy: No worries.

Mason: It is a lot.

Tommy: Have you got the other one close by? Because you bought two, didn't you?

Jess: I do. I whipped it out as well. Do you want to see it?

Tommy: Yeah. Now, can you do a costume change halfway through, please?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, we'll see. Yeah, halfway through. It's probably not great for audio listeners, but for audio listeners, how would you describe it, Jess?

Jess: Um, so this one is a little bit bigger. It has a ripple effect on the leather, and it has silver hardware, and it has more pockets, whereas the other one, it has matte black hardware and is shorter and smaller, so a little bit tighter, but they have subtle differences and that's all that matters.

Josh: And so hardware, is that a common thing that they— is that a bikie thing? Who says hardware?

Jess: Well, these things are like hardware, like zips and stuff. Is that, you know, when you have a bag and it has—

Tommy: is that a term? Well known?

Jess: Yeah, yeah, I think so. Maybe it's just, yeah, I think so. Why? You see, you guys haven't heard of it.

Josh: No, it sounds, it sounds very official. It sounds like you're working. Have you sold a jacket before? Have you worked in retail?

Jess: No, never.

Josh: Okay, what was your first job?

Jess: I worked in a hardware store.

Josh: Oh really?

Jess: Bongs.

Josh: I know, there you go. Hardware. Yeah, what section? Paint or what were you doing?

Jess: I was on the registers, but I was an all-rounder. Like I was pretty good on the floor. Men were impressed, I think, when they'd come in, they'd be like, oh, can I please purchase something? I'm like, oh, that's just in aisle 2. And I think you need this one.

Tommy: To be honest.

Josh: She's good on the floor.

Tommy: What's that? What does Conspiracy Jimmy say, Josh? The NP, the player, the non-someone player. You know, like when you're referring to a person, they're a, what's the term? It's a gaming term. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mason: It's a non.

Tommy: It's like where someone's a part of the game.

Mason: NLP? NLP?

Tommy: Non— Nah, something. Anyway. You think that Jess is one of those? No, what I think is—

Mason: NPC, a non-player character.

Tommy: Non-player character, which are just a part of the game, but they're just built in. They have their own systems. They just do like one thing. They walk down the aisles and that's all they do in the game. People at Bunnings Warehouse, as much as I'm impressed by Sandra, who knows every fucking aisle and where everything lives, and Gary, who will bloody tell you everything about a spanner. I had this moment where I was like, how do they know this shit? This is the Matrix and they are the NPCs. Like, they have just got such knowledge on these aisles that it's like, oh my God, I feel like I'm really in a simulation when I'm talking to someone from Bunnings and they're just like, down there, aisle 3, down the back, down the bottom, up the top. Got it.

Josh: But they're not always right.

Tommy: Well, they're confident.

Josh: They are. Bloody confident. I think that's the— there's a lot of confidence that can go on. There was a guy who actually— I remember going to Bunnings a few years ago and when I was—

Tommy: That was your last time, wasn't it? Yeah.

Jess: Your first and last time.

Tommy: Oh my God, sorry. Was it the last time you went to Bunnings where you ran in, you were on your phone and you walked into a door, walked into a car? Remember how you were bleeding? You were bleeding.

Mason: Oh yeah, how did it actually happen?

Josh: Oh no, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, so no, I rented a van to move and it was from Bunnings and yeah, I was fucking on—

Mason: You can rent a van from Bunnings?

Josh: Yeah, you can, yep. And I was on my phone, I was looking at my phone and I put my head up and the van thing was low, I smashed and I had like a fucking Harry Potter scar.

Tommy: You were bleeding though?

Josh: Yeah, I was very bad, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was nasty but like the scar's basically gone away but there's some old— we can put a photo photo up.

Tommy: Is that your last time at Bunnings though?

Josh: No, no, no, no. I even bought— we, um, actually maybe I've sent, I've, I've sent, uh, a bunch of people to Bunnings on my behalf. Happy Harry's done that, uh, a couple of times. I've sent him to Bunnings. But no, I, um, there was a guy the last time, I think his name was Jake, uh, that worked there, and he had, I would say, 20 badges on his, uh, what is it called? It's like the— they have their uniform, but they wear an apron. They've got their apron on. It's got like 15 or 20 badges on his apron of different awards. I'm like, Jake, this is huge. Look like you're fucking— you're smashing it at this job.

Jess: And he says, I know, employee of the week, or—

Josh: yeah, you say he, um, he worked at the Port Melbourne, uh, store, but he, um they just needed fill-ins at the Collingwood store. And so he was there for that. And he's like, no, the reason I wear it is because my boss says that you can only wear 1 or 2 badges at a time and I just wanna piss him off. So I thought that was quite good. A guy who's a high achiever, but also a smartass.

Tommy: I love that.

Jess: Sounds like someone we know.

Josh: Which one? Mason's a smartass.

Tommy: It's pushing back on authority though, 'cause it is, there is something nice. How do you push back on authority now as an adult, Josh?

Josh: Uh, how do I push back? Uh, look, yeah, just probably— it's not really authority, is it? Just the refusing to go down and collecting my Uber Eats from— that's probably not authority. There's probably— there's probably something fucked up about that. Now, probably, um, I don't know, I just do it. I don't— I don't have to deal with authority. I think that's the thing. Maybe like that's a good thing about having your own business and doing all, like, I don't have any of that shit. Like, I don't have, I used to have the biggest blowups with managers and shit like that.

Tommy: Yeah. You're now off the gird. How are you, Jess? What's your, do you push back? What were you like as a kid at school? Naughty girl?

Jess: No, I've always been a people pleaser.

Tommy: Have you been?

Jess: Yeah.

Josh: Which is—

Jess: I feel like I was a little bit bratty with mum and dad sometimes, but no, I've always been a bit of a people pleaser. People pleaser.

Josh: And so even the days of you being a kid and having a few ciggies, that was a people pleasing, that was you people pleasing really, rather than being a rebel.

Jess: You better hope fucking God that my mum doesn't listen to this show because—

Josh: What, no, just a couple of ciggies when you're a kid. There's the title. Yeah, no, that's—

Jess: Don't you dare. Honestly, my parents would, my parents, It was only like a couple of times that I was drinking, right? And like, if they ever found out, I would still be written out of the fucking will. So we just need to keep this ideal.

Josh: And we want to be able to visit whatever holiday house you buy with that will. So let's keep it good. No, but you were young. You were young.

Tommy: I mean, I smoked a joint with a friend's dad in year 7.

Josh: Yeah, that's not crazy. It's not fucking good at all. Who was the dad? Stoner?

Tommy: Of course, yeah, yeah, he's a big stoner. And we stole weed from his drawer in grade 5 and got stoned.

Josh: Like, are you trying to make Jess feel bad? I feel like you're just trying to— well, I'm trying to just reveal this, Jess. Are they going to feel better or be like, who the fuck is Tommy Jacket? Who is this? Well, I think—

Jess: well, no, because— oh, don't worry, I won't finish that sentence.

Josh: Because your parents have occasional weed, is that what you're going to say? That they are?

Jess: No, my— okay, yeah, my one of them has in the past, and we do plan to do it again. If we were going to go to Amsterdam this year, and that was going to be a fun, fun time.

Josh: That's—

Tommy: well, they're saying that weed will be legal in Australia in 2021, potentially. This is, um, cannabis could be legal from 2021. Um, and they're saying over-the-counter medical cannabis could be available in Australia from next year. Therapeutics Goods Administration has released a notice of interim decision on proposed amendments to the poison standard, which could give the green light for access to cannabidiol without a prescription or at pharmacies.

Josh: You should be a news reader.

Tommy: It seems—

Jess: oh, did you see our poor news reader yesterday?

Tommy: CBD. That's—

Josh: Oh yeah. What happened to the news reader?

Tommy: Yeah, what happened?

Jess: He just stumbled over his words and then he got really emotional and he just couldn't finish it and it broke my heart.

Josh: So it's Ep 800 all over again.

Jess: People get emotional, it throws me, okay? So it's just sad.

Josh: He said that he was dehydrated. I did see that tweet. Really? Yeah, yeah. Which is, that's a crazy— Dehydrated and then disorientated. Like that's quite a full-on thing. To happen, don't you think?

Mason: Talking for hours.

Josh: Yeah, I guess, I guess.

Mason: Maybe he just didn't have a glass of water, you know.

Josh: Uh, Sebs, have you ever had a cigarette before?

Mason: Nah, nothing.

Josh: Good. Yeah, no, I wouldn't.

Tommy: Not worth it.

Josh: Yeah, the, um, I was listening to Joe Rogan talking about edibles. So when we went to Los Angeles, we— I had my first sort of illicit drug. Are they illicit drugs? If no, Okay, what is illicit?

Tommy: Not in the state, not in the state that, um, not in California.

Josh: But what is an illicit drug?

Tommy: I'll tell you the illicit meaning: forbidden by law, rules, okay, or customs. So it's not based on being legal to the state.

Josh: We got it from MedMen, from like an equivalent of an Apple Store type of deal.

Mason: And, um, yeah, yeah, 24-month warranty.

Josh: Exactly. And I, um, still on a payment plan for it, you know. Definitely. But I, we had to actually, a fun fact, Jess, you probably don't know this, but we had to pay cash. So, because the credit system, like your Visas and your Mastercards, all that sort of thing, they are sort of legislated at a federal level. And so, because marijuana, it was still when, I don't know if it's still the same or what the deal is, it still is, it's still illegal in other states around the country. So, federally. It's illegal, you can't actually buy marijuana using a credit card. And so we had to then go get cash, like pay cash for the marijuana. It's one of the best, if you were to reconcile our books, it's the best, I think, sort of expense.

Jess: Wait, you put it through the business?

Josh: Yeah, no, no, we got the cash out. The cash was the business, we kept the receipt and everything. And it's all for content.

Tommy: So the cash was spent on— no one knows. No one knows what the cash was spent on once it pulled out of the ATM.

Josh: And so anyway, we— it wasn't that crazy. How much did we spend? $60?

Tommy: $40.

Josh: $40. $40 US?

Tommy: Yeah, so it's probably $60.

Josh: Anything for me just to be right. Like, I could have just let that go. I'm like, ah, $60 somewhere.

Tommy: Anyway, it's actually $30 in the shop, so you pay $30 USD and you get whatever, 3, you know, yeah, whatever it is.

Josh: Anyway, so the, um, uh, I'm not very good with both, so this is why I can't have kids. I can hear Bodhi talking, I literally can't talk.

Tommy: If I mute myself, will I lose sync? Is that what happens?

Josh: No, no, no, you can mute yourself.

Tommy: All right, I'll mute myself.

Josh: Okay, great. Um, get out of the fucking lounge room, he says. Um, no, the Um, what was I saying? The— oh yeah, so edible, apparently it's, uh, more addictive than, than I, I was led to believe, and it can cause a bit of schizophrenia because I thought it was going to be my, um, drug of choice, uh, in the future where it's like very easy, right? Well, just like, just a relaxing thing, just like you, Sebs, with the gin and all of that sort of thing, like how you are with gin. I thought I could have a couple of gummies on a Friday night.

Mason: You could be the edibles guy.

Josh: Yeah, but I've decided—

Tommy: He's a freak though. He, every time he flies in a plane, on the way to the airport, eats a few of them.

Josh: That's Joe.

Tommy: And he says that it's like letting go. Like, think about all the resistance you have internally. You're traveling, like, oh, the annoying queues or the annoying bloody fucking, you know, food that's on the plane. There's so many things that annoy you. And so he's like, I just lean into that and I get really baked and just let go of all that shit. Yeah, not for a veteran stoner, there's a difference. I couldn't do it, I'd fucking lose my mind.

Mason: I mean, I guess, what are they going to do? You're allowed to go high into all these other countries, uh, all these other states.

Josh: I guess if it's consumed, right?

Tommy: Well, you know, it's like being super drunk. You can't— you're not meant to fly if you're super drunk, but it's If you can hold it together, sure, sure. They serve— I mean, I had 5 bottles of wine on the plane on the way over to New York one time, and by the time I got around to pressing the button—

Jess: Sure, we're not 5 bottles.

Tommy: Well, you know, have you ever flown on a plane, Jess? You know what the bottles are?

Josh: She was sad about Tiger closing, so she probably has never had to put the hole on it because it's always like $70 and you have to use your credit card.

Jess: I've never flown Tiger, okay?

Tommy: 2.2 standard drinks in those little bottles. Of red, but by the time I was pressing it, he would just rock up and have it in his hand because he knew what I was going to ask for. Yeah, he was, he was on to me big time.

Josh: Uh, Sevs, what's been happening in your week? What are you excited about?

Mason: My week? Oh, well, actually, on last weekend, I ordered, uh, omega-3 and also vitamin D supplements. Really? And I'm fired up.

Josh: Yeah, I'm fired. I haven't had them yet and I haven't got them yet, but I'm fired up.

Mason: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: Why are you fired up?

Mason: I'm just excited to have them, to be honest. Like, just—

Josh: we must be assuming the same thing because I've just had a moment last week where I'm like, I need to go hard on fish. Or did you listen to the Miley Cyrus chat?

Jess: No.

Josh: On Joe Rogan? Okay. She loves it.

Mason: I've been wanting— yeah, well, this is the thing, like, so Pete sent me his fish supplier details and I haven't, I haven't gone down and I haven't gotten them yet because it's at a market. And so I haven't— I don't know, I just— eating fish 3 times a week, no one in the family likes fish really except me and Mum, and Grace likes it as well. Um, so I got, I got these, um, fish oil supplements, so I'm pumped to be taking those soon.

Josh: So you just like— it's sort of funny though, like it's one thing to be— it's like saying no one in my house likes red meat, so I just got iron tablets. It's not the same experience as having an actual piece of fish. Like these tablets, right?

Mason: No, there's a, there's a— no, there's a lot more. You like— you should be eating your fish like that instead of eating your, um, you know, supplements.

Josh: Yeah, eating it whole, right?

Jess: Yeah, so I've been having 3 fish oil tablets with every meal.

Tommy: Wow, how many meals are you having a day?

Mason: 3.

Tommy: So you're having 9 tablets a day, and what's the dosage on the actual bottle to say that you should be doing?

Jess: Yeah, I'm not, uh, probably 2, I think. Is it, Mace? Is that what you'll say?

Josh: He hasn't got them yet.

Mason: Don't— I haven't got them yet, but there's—

Jess: oh, sorry, I said you got them, you just weren't taking them.

Mason: No, no, no, I haven't got it yet. But, but the thing is, I mean, Josh, you were talking earlier in the year around the different types of omega-3s that you get in the, um, in the fish oil supplements. And so there was a bit of research that went into finding the right one to make sure I got the right form.

Josh: So what brand, uh, what's the—

Mason: hang on, let me just get my order up. I think it's, it's called It's, it's all the way from like, um, like the— it's, it's like the Arctic fish or whatever. Yeah, here we go.

Josh: It is—

Mason: are you kidding me? This is an absolute disaster trying to find this. It doesn't even give me a link on my order. Nordic Naturals. There you go. Nordic Naturals.

Josh: And Jess, what are you rocking?

Jess: I have no idea. I think it's like a Swiss maybe.

Josh: I knew you were going to say Swiss.

Jess: It's just a supermarket brand, you know.

Josh: I get that. Um, I mean, you've, you've had—

Jess: I feel like the Swedish fish are going to be a lot healthier than, um, our fish. I don't know where ours are coming from.

Josh: What do you mean?

Jess: Well, if Seb's has Scandi fish, like, I don't know, it just feels nicer.

Mason: That's true. They are meant—

Jess: they're known for their fish in the world, or they're hotter anyway, right?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, I've got carp fish oil just from the local Coonong Creek.

Josh: Yeah, they can't be good for you.

Jess: Do you guys like fishing? Have you fished before?

Tommy: I love fishing, love it.

Josh: So I did—

Tommy: Have you ever fished?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, so I, my dad's not into fishing. And so because he's not into fishing, it was sort of like, dead in the water. Not the fish, but the idea. Yeah, but the, the— we, when we went to, um, where was it, Bateman's Bay, as a kid, uh, I got a hand reel. I was like determined to fish, and so I hired a hand reel and then went down onto this small little sort of jetty area and because Dad wouldn't come with me or whatever, so I just went and did it. And I got eaten alive by sand flies. And so, I had scabs, like my legs were like fully like bloodied the whole trip and we had to put ointment on. So, I haven't done it since, yeah.

Jess: So, how did you know how to bait it and everything if you didn't have someone there to teach you?

Josh: Probably didn't. Like it was, I think it was—

Tommy: I think the keyword, Jess, was stick it on. Hired. You hire it and it probably comes with a hook on it.

Josh: Yeah, they would have given— they gave me like the 30-second run-through. I think I was watching, um, there was a show called I Fish that was on Channel 31, or there was some sort of fish show, and I used to watch that. And so you go from like these guys who are like fucking, you know, fishing like game style, you know, like game fish, and then I'm fucking Bateman's Bay on this tiny jetty with my fucking hand reel. Just not very fucking patient either, just getting pissed off and just fucking— oh yeah, it's like they're biting me and I still got fucking scars on my legs from it.

Mason: It's pretty—

Josh: it's quite fun. Wow. Jess, are you—

Tommy: do you— have you fished? You sound like you're keen on it.

Jess: No, not really. We go to Lorne every January and my sister's boyfriend fishes. I head down there sometimes with them. It's kind of thrilling, like when you do get something and you pull it up and it's like there, but then I feel guilty about it and I'm like, I want to put it back in because you've heard it, obviously. But yeah, have you caught a squid, Tommy?

Tommy: Never a squid. I've caught shark. No, it looked like a stingray. I don't think it was. Yeah, carp, bloody whiting, flathead.

Josh: I feel like fish ray thing. Sorry, what was it called? Stingray.

Mason: Stingray.

Josh: I feel like potentially the way that you said that, you've said that you've caught a stingray before. Like if you're in a pub, you'll do it, but not fishing.

Tommy: Now that you're not fishing, spearfishing. Spearfishing. It's a special thing I have. It's, um, no, no, I caught this, I caught this thing that looked like it was a shark though, but it looks similar to a stingray. Like it has these sort of big flaps off the side and it looks a bit like a tiger. It was awesome. I let it—

Josh: I—

Tommy: no, I put them back. Put them back. I, um, depends on— I can't remember.

Mason: So yeah, how screwed are they with a spear that's gone through?

Josh: They definitely die.

Tommy: No, that's to eat. They're dead. They're dead.

Mason: Oh, but when you— when you— when you're— so you don't spear fish and then let them go because they're already screwed?

Tommy: No, no, no, dude. No, you're doing it pure. You're only going to shoot if you're going to eat it.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: And so no. Where are you fishing?

Mason: You're shooting it in the head or are you Trying to parry.

Tommy: You can get it, mate. Depends if you're, um, Jason Bourne, you know, or you're, you know, got precision. But no, it's, um, like, where are you meant to aim?

Josh: Do you know?

Tommy: I don't know. You could hit it. I don't know, just go for it.

Josh: Just go for it.

Jess: Stuck in the sand.

Tommy: Depends on whatever. You can shoot it while it's mid-swimming. It's pretty barbaric, to be honest.

Jess: Yeah, it's kind of like this.

Tommy: There is something, but you don't You don't want to do it. If you're not going to eat that thing, don't fucking kill it. Don't kill it.

Jess: Yeah, and also descaling a fish is fucking disgusting.

Mason: Yeah, yeah.

Jess: Oh yeah, you guys done that?

Mason: Yeah, no, leave it to the professionals.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, look, to be honest, I've eaten more fish from a, uh, you know, from a shop than I have the ones that I've caught myself.

Josh: I mean, it's not really saying anything if you have fish and chips every weekend. I mean, how often are people fishing?

Tommy: You know, that's not true.

Josh: That's an outright—

Tommy: I mean, there'll be people that fish all the time. People fish all the time. If people would— I mean, it depends. There's some places you go— I saw a guy who has a full boat set up, and he literally posted this week on Facebook, please help, I have all of the equipment but I cannot catch a fish on this lake. Does somebody know how to fish this lake? I'll, um, I'll pay you in bloody meat and, you know, whatever. He just— he's a— he has a farm. But he was saying that, I'll just— I'll pay you to come and help me, because some people just have no idea, or you just don't know anything over.

Mason: Just a real rich—

Tommy: well, mate, I messaged him and said, mate, let me sort this out.

Josh: It doesn't matter, we just fucking shoot them. You just fucking shoot them and you got it. Probably— I'm not an expert, if I'm being honest. I probably fucking go to a fish and chip shop more than I fish. Well, it'll be pretty fucking close.

Tommy: Here's the logic, here's the logic. If a fish is 30 centimetres long, where are you going to shoot it for the best chance?

Josh: I reckon at the 15 centimetre mark, right?

Tommy: Exactly. You just go for the bit, and so you aim for that. But if you get it at the bloody end of it, aren't you happy?

Jess: The head?

Josh: And why do you need the head? What's the, what's the, what's the benefit of the head?

Mason: Well, you're trying to—

Tommy: no, I just said if you're trying to aim for the middle.

Josh: But I bet Seb and Jess think that you aim for the Yeah, but well, so if it's going right through it and then you get the body.

Tommy: Okay, so you're—

Josh: oh yeah, you, you were in front of the fish. You must be— the fish is coming towards you.

Mason: Are you head-on?

Jess: Yeah, no, I'm thinking it's swimming to this like on the side and you've got to go, you aim for the head and then it swims a little bit further and then you catch its body.

Josh: So it sounds like you want to hit the middle.

Jess: Yeah, correct.

Tommy: You're going for the middle.

Josh: Yeah, yeah. Well, so it makes sense.

Jess: So you wouldn't aim for the body is what I'm saying.

Tommy: How handy do you think you are? How handy do you think you are, Jess?

Jess: Um, in what term? Like, I can use—

Tommy: like, if you were on an island, if you're on an island, it was Josh versus Jess, who would die first?

Jess: Fucking Josh, for sure.

Josh: You reckon?

Mason: Yeah.

Jess: What do you think? Although he— I think, I think your tactic would just be to sit still, not exert yourself, and just chill, whereas I'd be like fucking running all over the island trying to find like materials to make a boat and then I'd die of like exhaustion or something. I think that's how it would play out.

Josh: I think we'd go on that discovery show, Naked and Afraid. I mean, it's a horrendous sight. So, this is a show, a reality show where two people are put on an island and they've got nothing, no equipment, no clothes.

Tommy: No clothes.

Josh: And they have to just try and survive.

Mason: Wow.

Josh: Someone I know was on, Alison was on the show. It's, but I would be, I would just be self-conscious the whole time. I would just, just, I mean, shut up.

Jess: I can't think of anything fucking worse.

Josh: I'm just like hiding behind leaves, right? Like just fucking, just. Could you imagine the YouTube comments?

Tommy: It sounds like a shopping show.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: There's actually a new show that's come out on TV. I saw an ad for it. I won't be watching 'cause I don't have a, I don't have free to air, but They— it's called SAS or something. So they're taking like celebrities. So, uh, Chappelle Corby, is that her name? The drug smuggler? Yeah, yeah, Chappelle Corby. Yep, she's on it. They're taking her, Merrick Watts, an Australian radio guy. And it's about training these people like the SAS do, challenging them, you know, pushing them out of helicopters into water and putting them through their paces like SAS training.

Josh: If they had budget, Hamish Blake would be fucking good at that show, I reckon.

Tommy: He'd win it though, that's the thing. He would because he's tough. I think he's mentally tough. He's the guy that's been stung by the most stingy, most painful ant. Joe Rogan was speaking about him on his podcast. He's like, that Australian guy, have you seen that video of him putting his hand— like, he talked about it on our show, episode 100, I think. That he didn't realise what— what he thought it was good. Oh yeah, fine, it'll just be a little bit of pain. Yeah, he's a maniac.

Josh: Yeah, he nearly died.

Tommy: Fucking respect, Jack, and respect.

Josh: I mean, um, you're talking about your fish, your fish and your meals and all that sort of thing. What— what's your— you're weighing everything. What diet are you on at the moment?

Jess: It's not really, I suppose you can call it a diet, but I'm just tracking macros at the moment. So like your fats, carbs, and protein.

Tommy: It's just a lifestyle, JJ.

Josh: Yeah, I mean, it does sound like a balance. I mean, is it well balanced if you weigh— is weighing something, is that like long-term? Do you think you'll always just use a scale now whenever you're sort of eating?

Jess: I feel like I will while I'm at home. I feel like I want to get back into meal preps as it is anyway if we do go back to the office. So I'll do it on the weekends and Yeah.

Josh: And so what was your oil conundrum?

Jess: I made a stir fry and I just chucked a whole heap of veggies in and of course weighed it. And because it was so massive, it was in a massive wok, I just assumed that it probably needed a little bit more oil. And so, yeah, I put in half a cup. Oh, what? Half a cup of oil? I know, I just, I was like, surely that's like, you know, when you just drizzle and you're not tracking it. So I didn't realize.

Mason: Are you tracking the oil normally? Because half a cup, that's a lot of oil. No, I wasn't normally.

Josh: No, she wasn't. So this is the problem. You're trying to reach what was like, it was like a healthy, you're reaching 2,200 calories or whatever a day.

Jess: Yeah.

Josh: But you were forgetting the oil.

Jess: I'm eating more than I used to eat.

Josh: But you'd forgotten the oil.

Jess: Well, I was literally forgetting the oil.

Josh: And you use half a cup. So what did it turn into?

Jess: So then, so Mase, it ended up being like 1,000 calories or something for half a cup of oil, which is outrageous. And so I was gonna have—

Josh: Did you put breadcrumb on them too?

Jess: Most of it was in the bottom of it anyway, so it's fine.

Tommy: It was tempura. You just made tempura.

Josh: Yeah, tempura veggies.

Jess: I should have done that. That would have been so good. Yeah, so I've learned my lesson and oil has a lot of calories.

Josh: Half a cup is a lot of calories. Is absurd.

Jess: Yeah. Well, most of it stayed in the bottom of the pan anyway, so I didn't consume it. That's my reasoning.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: I mean, you usually can't— you could cook them without. I mean, it depends on how sad your diet is, but I used to cook veggies with no oil, try and cook everything with no oil, just like schnitzel in a pan.

Jess: The thing is, all I need is— you need your fats. Well, because you can't get it from—

Mason: look, olive oil is not your problem.

Jess: You know, exactly.

Josh: It's not your problem. What's their problem?

Tommy: Cadbury fucking caramel. That's my fucking problem.

Jess: Chocolate wine.

Josh: But you think you haven't had any. You were telling me how you've just like, you've got some Hay Tiger chocolate at home and you're just getting mad about it.

Jess: Do you know what? I don't know if you guys know this about me, but I'm an all or nothing kind of person. Like I can't be, I can't do things in moderation. Like I have to do it's it's just I have to abstain or it's, you know, I'm eating it. So yeah, that makes it a little bit easier. But Hey Tiger, it's just a really good, since you brought that into the office that time, I'd never had it before and now I'm craving it.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, it is good. Like they're not crazy big, you could smash one and you'll be fine.

Tommy: It's probably less, but that's the all or nothing. You gotta respect that.

Josh: I get it.

Tommy: You gotta know that because then the opposite is, Which you always say, Josh, it's like me with having to stop drinking, 'cause I fucking don't have a filter. Or if I have a filter that just varies every day or week. There is something about just that commitment. Do you feel healthier, Jess?

Jess: Mm, I feel real good.

Tommy: Mentally? Mentally?

Jess: Yeah, mentally better. 'Cause I think the thing with drinking as well is, I have given it up for now, but obviously it's mostly because I'm prepping myself for when we come out of lockdown.

Tommy: For an absolute effort.

Jess: Yeah, sorry. Yeah, we're gonna— I'm gonna be a lightweight as well because I've barely been drinking.

Tommy: I mean, what I feel like—

Josh: what's it gonna look like? Can you paint the picture of that first experience of like drinking and being out? Like, what is that going to actually look like?

Jess: I think it could be messy. I think I might start off slow. Like, maybe we do like all the gals together in like a house kind of party vibe. And then we, we move up our way up the scale. So like kind of all in one night, like a bar? No, no, no, no. I think it needs to be over a couple weekends.

Josh: Okay, sure.

Jess: Which kind of works well with the timeline that, um, Dan Andrews popped out. So from October we can go sit in a park and drink, and then from November we can have people over, and so we'll drink there. And then after that they'll open everything up and we can go out.

Josh: Sure.

Jess: Does that sound okay?

Josh: When you said Dan Andrews, I just thought of Dan Murphy's. It's just like, so Dan Murphy's of like what I think I'm going to do. I think that's it. I mean, you say drinking at a park?

Jess: Yeah, in a like a—

Josh: I'm allowed to drink it. Are you allowed to drink at parks?

Tommy: Yeah, some parks. Some parks you can't.

Josh: I've never drunk.

Jess: I think the parks you just drink in a coffee cup.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, remember I was drinking in Central Park, bought a nice cerveza off a young gentleman.

Josh: Yeah, but they had— you had to have like a fucking newspaper around it.

Tommy: Yeah, it was great. Oh dude, Jess, you would have loved it. Corona lying, sitting in Central Park watching people play, you know, frisbees.

Jess: I didn't beer Corona.

Josh: Oh, that's right, you even— classic. This is such a TJ move. We're sitting, Bree, TJ, and I sitting down, sees people fucking playing frisbee, has to fucking get up and be like, oh dude, here, and have a fucking crack.

Tommy: Like, just like, mate, no, if you're watching this guy—

Jess: that's what I love about Tommy.

Josh: He—

Jess: nah, he's just friendly. Leave him alone.

Tommy: This guy, enjoy the— just enjoy. Sevs, you should have seen how far this guy could throw this aerobie. It was like You know, the aerobie, the one with the— so it's like a disc. Nah, it's like a hole. Yeah, it's got the big hole in it so they can go a lot further. But because for some reason, I don't know, mate, I threw it. Josh, did I throw it fucking far?

Josh: Look, I can't remember. I just remember I'd probably be more comfortable with it nowadays, but I feel like at the time it was just like from you getting the beer illegally to doing all that sort of thing, I'm just like, ah, this is the— I'm getting the talk.

Tommy: What else are you gonna do? The guy who sat down, didn't drink a beer, just You know, just chilling.

Josh: I was just like, no, I was just enjoying the, like, just—

Tommy: What was I doing?

Josh: I was an observer. No, but you were like, you engage and interact. Like, I love being in my space, watching, looking, doing all of that. But the—

Tommy: So you did what you love and I did what I love. Exactly. And we were happy.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: You're just judging me.

Josh: Oh, I've got more index cards, guys. They've come in. Oh, here we go.

Tommy: Oh, Jesus. Oh my—

Josh: So that's very exciting. It smells perfumey. They've put some sort of perfume on it.

Tommy: I've actually got footage of that that I'll post on Instagram of the park frisbee situation. I think I even got you to film me do it.

Josh: Yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah, I would definitely— I could imagine that. I need evidence. I do like that you do that stuff, but it's not like that doesn't mean I have to do it.

Tommy: Absolutely, but no one asks you to do it. I know you wouldn't do it.

Jess: Josh, I think you should step out of your comfort zone a little bit sometimes.

Josh: Would you do it, Jess?

Jess: Come play frisbee. Yeah, I would have played with him.

Josh: Now, would you have engaged?

Tommy: Yes, the guy had his top off and he was the most ripped dude you've ever seen. You would have loved it. I like it.

Josh: So my thing is, so my perspective is, I'm like Am I adding it for them? Am I like— so these two guys are playing frisbee, doing their thing. The anxiety I have is it's like, do they want me to play? And it's pretty awkward to be like, oh nah, bro, we're actually like, um, we're trying to get to 100 throws together.

Tommy: Yeah, but see, you overthought it at that point. If he just said sorry, dude, I'll be like, no problem, man.

Josh: But who was gonna say sorry, dude?

Tommy: Yeah, but you read the room. You read the room. If he was intense, um, you wouldn't have done it. But Jess, I just sent you the, the footage. It was the most magical afternoon, 5:44 PM on the 1st of October 2018, and it was central. Sun was coming down. You could see just, oh, the beautiful big hotel in the background. It was magical. And this frisbee went very, very far.

Jess: We've got a well-balanced team now, so yeah, we can do that.

Josh: So Mace, would you do it? Would you do the— you'd probably do, even though you're a socially sort of, you know, so you're a pretty social guy, but I wouldn't see—

Jess: I wouldn't be the first person.

Mason: I wouldn't be the first person to engage, that's for sure. But if TJ goes over and he's playing and then like Jess is over there, I'll go over.

Tommy: I'm just— I've got— I found a video, and at that point I think Josh had come over. Yeah, of course, dude.

Josh: Josh, I just—

Tommy: I just found a video of me getting that Corona in the paper off that guy.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And, um, oh God, that's bringing back some nice memory. Like, just thinking about having a nice beer, getting a little buzz.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Oh, looks great.

Jess: So nice.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: So, Jess, you like to look at Central Park?

Josh: Yeah, I've never had a Corona.

Tommy: Rather, we're gonna get you one. Yeah, I know you would, Sevs, but there's, um, you know, live a little, buddy. Just open your eyes.

Mason: Funny, to be honest.

Jess: Coronas?

Mason: Yeah, all beers smell funny.

Tommy: Gin smells more funny than— gin smells more funny than beer.

Mason: Gin doesn't. Nah, beer smells a bit funky, like something's going on with it.

Tommy: Oh, it is right. It's like fermented. Yeah, go on.

Jess: So you don't— Mace, you don't drink beer at all, do you?

Mason: I don't drink anything except the gin and tonic.

Jess: Other than gin. Josh, do you?

Tommy: Will you—

Jess: would you go to a pub and just like sink a pint or something?

Josh: No, no, no. So I've had a red wine. So I only had red wine, uh, up until, um, like 3 months ago where I incorporated gin after, um, Seb said it was great, but also when Hot Accountant sent us, um, some Death Gin.

Tommy: Josh is the guy that would have a red wine at 35 degrees at a pub. Yes, he'd be that dude. But no, you had— Josh, you've had like a, um, we had a cocktail on the rooftop at the stand at the Standard. Was it the Standard?

Josh: Oh yeah, that's right. But we had to get a lot of photos.

Tommy: Yeah, we got a cocktail. That was the same day. We had a cocktail on the rooftop. That was sick. And then what else have you had? Like, I feel like you'd— Josh, Jesse would drink a skinny bitch. He'd get around that.

Josh: I mean, the thing is, I would get around the colourful cocktail.

Tommy: Definitely.

Josh: Yeah. But going to a venue, like the thing that's embarrassing, I can't. Why? No, cocktails are great. Like the, um—

Tommy: Jess, that's toxic masculinity. Yeah, dial it back a bit, babe.

Josh: It's the jacket, it's a leather jacket. Um, I mean, Jessie, you were shots kind of gal. Like, do you go hard on shots?

Jess: No, no, no, no, no, I hate it.

Josh: So Sevs and I are shots guys. Like, when we, uh, when we're in LA, when we're in LA, we were having fucking shots that were like— Tully was pouring us these fucking— Do you remember that? Yeah. Yeah, and they taste good.

Mason: Well, you don't taste them. The only, the only, like, you have to be pissed enough to have them. Like, you need to have the stuff that tastes yummy that masks all the alcohol first, and then you can have all the other yucky stuff. Yeah, it's like champagne. You can only have champagne once you've had, once you're pissed enough to not taste anything.

Josh: Really?

Jess: Makes sense, dude.

Mason: That's, that's how alcohol works.

Tommy: That's how I am.

Josh: Thanks for the—

Tommy: I'm looking at old— I'm going to do a, I'm going to do a series of photos, right, on Instagram today. Videos and photos of our New York trip. This is bringing back so many great memories.

Josh: Oh great, you probably got photos.

Jess: So was it this time last year?

Tommy: And then last year?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 2 years ago. 2 years ago.

Tommy: Yeah, that was before TJ and I had started Big Media Company properly.

Josh: I could register the business, but we hadn't done a single client job.

Tommy: Remember we had a meeting? Remember we had a, um, catch when we did a session at Starbucks where we were talking about what the business will look like, and then we talked about Jess, Mason. You know, we knew you guys were here. Like, we know, we've known about you guys most of our lives. You just got—

Jess: you guys have been in your vibrational rhythm.

Josh: Well, there's all the yellow. So these are all the index cards, guys. Go cheque out the YouTube channel if you want to see them all.

Jess: Just basic index cards, really.

Tommy: All right, guys, I gotta go give this kid some attention. And so as much as I would love to stay here all day watching you reveal your index cards, I'm, um, I'm pulling the pin. All right, it's been a great show.

Josh: Enjoy your day. Have a good one. Bye.